48V Nissan Leaf -Used Cell- Solar Battery Pack

[@WillProwse]

After I realized that the sticker capacity and the usable capacity were different, I made sure that Bigbattery. com updated their listing before posting this video. I think it would be unfair to list a 1.9-2kwh battery as 2.8kwh. So they changed it. Also updated the pictures because some forum members complained about that. I am not a big fan of Nissan Leaf batteries, as you can probably tell. And with the updated capacity and price being $599 (before my coupon code), a tesla pack is actually cheaper. But this comes with it's own bms. So yeah, quite a few pros and cons. What I am excited for, is the BYD LiFePO4 battery they sent me. Unfortunately, many forum members are reporting 3kwh of usable capacity, not 5kwh. So I will have test results on my pack tomorrow and let you guys know. If those cells work well, we will have an awesome plug-n-play second life storage pack. I have no idea how well it will work. What do you think? Was my assessment of nissan leaf cells fair? I know a lot of people use these, so I was trying to be more objective. It is easy for me to go into rant mode with a used NMC pack with 65% of original capacity, but I know some applications warrant their use. Let me know :D ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Does off-grid solar confuse you? Check out my DIY friendly website for solar system packages and product recommendations, and so much more! www.mobile-solarpower.com Join our DIY solar community! #1 largest solar forum on the internet for beginners and professionals alike: www.diysolarforum.com Check out my best-selling, beginner-friendly 12V off-grid solar book (affiliate link): amzn.to/2Aj4dX4 If DIY is not for you, but you love solar and need an offgrid system, check out Tesla Solar. Low prices and great warranty, and they can take your entire house offgrid with their new Powerwalls: ts.la/william57509 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My solar equipment recommendations (Constantly updated! Check here first): 12V/48V Lithium Batteries: www.mobile-solarpower.com/solar-batteries.html Solar System Component Directory: www.mobile-solarpower.com/solarcomponents.html Plug-N-Play Systems: www.mobile-solarpower.com/full-size-systems.html Complete 48V System Kits: www.mobile-solarpower.com/complete-48v-solar-kits.html DIY Friendly Air Conditioner/ Heat Pumps: www.mobile-solarpower.com/solar-friendly-air-conditioners.html Complete 48V System Blueprint: www.mobile-solarpower.com/48v-complete-system-blueprint.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My Favorite Online Stores for DIY Solar and Coupon Codes: -Current Connected: SOK, Victron and High Quality Components. Best prices and warranty around: currentconnected.com/?ref=wp -Signature Solar: Cheap Server Rack Batteries and Large Solar Panels: www.signaturesolar.com/?ref=h-cvbzfahsek -Ecoflow Delta Official Site: My favorite plug-n-play solar generator: us.ecoflow.com/?aff=7 -AmpereTime: Cheapest 12V batteries around: amperetime.com/products/ampere-time-12v-100ah-lithium-lifepo4-battery?ref=h-cvbzfahsek -Rich Solar: Mega site and cheaper prices than renogy! Check them out: richsolar.com/?ref=h-cvbzfahsek -Shop Solar Kits: Huge site with every solar kit you can imagine! Check it out: shopsolarkits.com/?ref=will-p -Battery Hookup: Cheap cell deals bit.ly/2mIxSqt 10% off code: diysolar -Watts 24/7: Best deals on all-in-one solar power systems, with customer support and distribution here in the USA: watts247.com/?wpam_id=3 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Contact Information: I am NOT available for personal solar system consult! If you wish to contact me, this is my direct email: [e-mail] Join the forum at diysolarforum.com/ if you wish to hang out with myself and others and talk about solar FTC Disclosure Statement and Disclaimers: Every video includes some form of paid promotion or sponsorship. Some links on this youtube channel may be affiliate links. We may get paid if you buy something or take an action after clicking one of these. My videos are for educational purposes only. Information is subject to change/update at any time. Electricity is DANGEROUS and can kill. Be smart and use common sense :) DIY Solar Power with Will Prowse is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, An affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com

[@jamesbramlett5407]

Will & Jehu Collab? (How many funs would that be!)

[@xavierpendrag0n]

I just read that hearing it in my head in your voice. That was different.

[@neliosamch3195]

I like the Nissan leaf batteries because of all my battery packs Nissan leaf is the only one that keeps all cell balanced within few millivolts duringcharging or discharging.

[@Jason-zg3nl]

24V LiFePO4 4-4.5 Kwh Battery Modules Can you do a video on this one please?

[@WillProwse]

@@Jason-zg3nl yes it's coming soon

[@TheFatman819]

As long as you are telling the truth it’s fair. Sugar coating something is what the manufacturers do. We all are looking for the truth, which is what you bring. Thank you

[@vtorsi610]

Except - those Nissan Leaf Modules are *NOT* NMC Chemistry, they are LMO + Nickel = ( LiMn2O4 with LiNiO2 ) - NO COBALT.

[@jjackson3240]

The other problem with Leaf batteries is they are not thermally controlled in the vehicle like in Chevy Volts or Teslas. That means that they get beat harder during their "first life".

[@MattLesak]

I worked with them on using a Gen2 pack to replace my Ryobi electric riding mower batteries. They were helpful and responded to all of my questions. Pack just fit inside the mower and has been working great. I did purchase the charger from them, which failed after a few months and they refunded my money after I sent it back. For me, I felt they were great to work with and were honest about what the battery was capable of delivering. The price wasn’t that much more compared to replacing it with the Ryobi AGM batteries, which were out of stock for months. Now I can mow my lawn (1/2 acre) without issues and the pack has held up well for the last 6 months. So far so good.

[@onegreenev]

I had an original 2011 Nissan Leaf. When I first got the car I could go about 75 miles in the summer with the air on at 55 to 60 mph. It was pretty consistent for the first two years. I did notice a bit of a drop during the last part of the second year and a faster drop the last year. I had 36,000 miles on the vehicle when I turned it in and it was not able to even do 48 miles at 55 mph at that mileage. We are very hot out here and the degradation was real bad. Nissan still would not honor the battery warranty issue even though it would not do even 48 miles at 55 mph. They purchased the car back at a very good price so I gave the 2015 model a try but leased that one. After 3 years I had 36,000 or so miles and I saw no degradation in capacity with the new pack. They did some changes in the battery and some call it a lizard battery in that they do not degrade badly in hot weather. I was very pleased with that. I did let it go back to the dealer. I eventually purchased a Fiat 500e. 44,000 miles and nearly the original capacity. Damn good cells in that car. If the original 2011 and 2012 cells don't get too hot then they should do just fine. I'll do a capacity check when I get one of those capacity testers you have. My Leaf modules are from a very low mileage 2011 Leaf. They have held up well in storage so I will test capacity. I have been calculating at 50ah per module vs the original 62 or what ever it is. I'll do a capacity check at like .5c. That should be just about right. Still waiting on my BMS.

[@laronis]

It looks like these Battery Packs are made from "Generation 1" Nissan Leaf batteries. These are the 2011 and 2012 year Leafs. They could not handle the heat very well and in 2013 Nissan came out with the "Lizard" batteries which supposedly did much better under heat usage. I think Nissan had to replace a lot of these under warranty.

[@gonesilent2814]

gen 2 cells still suck till 2015 cells

[@Supernaut2000]

I have a 2017 30 kWh Leaf and the battery is so far superior to the one that was in my 2013 Leaf.

[@laronis]

I am sure that in each generation of the Leaf, the batteries are improving. But none of them were near as bad as the 2011 and 2012 years. All you have to do to proof this is to check the selling price, and look at the battery monitor 12 bar status on the Leaf's dash. The early 2011-2012 batteries were far inferior even to the 2013 years. These 2 years are very inexpensive to purchase compared to the 2013 and up (yes the 2013 and 2014 are pretty inexpensive too, but not nearly as so).

[@baloog8]

@@laronis if u can manage the heat, are the gen 1 (gen 1 = 2011 & 2012?) Still a good buy?

[@laronis]

@@baloog8 Sure, it all depends on the price of the Leaf and the number of bars left on the battery. Some of those 2011 and 2012 Leafs have new batteries because the old ones wore out.

[@ghostwriter6699]

Excellent video -- and no innocent animals were hurt .... just not a degraded battery fan ...favourite part .. ZAP (4:20) "God damn it" ..

[@00708046]

Ya , what was that ? It wasn't mentioned and nothing damaged so I guess it was just "the inevitable spark" from connecting to a high volt source . It was funny ... sorry Will ! I guess the fingers were too close.

[@josidasilva5515]

The BMS has internal temperature sensor; it is in physical contact with the battery. I got one with 45A capacity x 7 x 48V and a main 300A CKT BKR only since the BMS does all the overload protection. Good idea to limit minimum and maximum Voltages.

[@WillProwse]

Good to know!!

[@Alokumar005]

William, bro you are wrong, @2:00 those thin red wire are for volt meter to provide cell pack voltage. MCB is already connected with thick wire to trip on short circuit and can bear high amp load. 💞 thanks, live your video

[@WillProwse]

Yeah true but what if circuit board has overload. I don't trust any Chinese pcb without some form of ocpd. Every wire should have protection

[@WillProwse]

And yes, they are voltage sensing, absolutely

[@mfgxl]

There were too many things I liked about this video to list them all. Another great job Prof. Prowse!

[@vtorsi610]

Except these Nissan Leaf Modules are *NOT* NMC Chemistry, they are LMO + Nickel = ( LiMn2O4 with LiNiO2 ) - NO COBALT.

[@00708046]

That leaf battery might make a good power wall/toaster combo. Just add a chimney and you're smokin' . I think you're right... keep them separated from your house , in a metal box in case of fire . I'm anxious for the next video .. Thanks Will !

[@TerrydeAlaska]

Sorry, but I had to laugh when you caused a spark and said Dam-it.....I know how that feels....good stuff....

[@thesurvivalist.]

Lol!

[@mitchellbarnow1709]

You get better and better, Will! I can’t wait for the next video!

[@xavierpendrag0n]

I have seen the leaf batteries done right by a handful of people. They do seem to have a purpose but only if you take into account the current state the batteries are actually in. Juan and Michelle from Beginning From This Morning have a large leaf pack for their solar on their bus. It's worth a look, and about the only system done with leaf batteries that I could say is spot on. That chemistry is scary though, i just dont think I could suggest anybody use it for the possibility of thermal runaway.

[@njfulwider5]

Man your killing it!!Great Job Will!!!!

[@JeepBoiFL]

Watched a few early vids way back in the van days. Been away for a while and POW! Glad to see things are going so well for you now.

[@AndyShell]

Great video. Our diy community has a large issue with ppl coming in, building a bad system in a rush ignoring the info and burning down house garage or ebike. No one uses drywall... :(

[@johnpurdum8126]

I keep watching your videos with the hope of someday understanding what it is you're trying to tell me. Science was my favorite subject in school and I failed the class miserably mostly because I can't remember the terms or names of things.

[@habib-zl6yy]

Thank you for the video! In Russia, you will not see such prices for such batteries! Good luck to you!

[@thesurvivalist.]

So glad you check these out, I was thinking using these, but now that I know 35% of the battery is unusable, I will pass on them!

[@ahaveland]

I think all of the battery is usable, it just has 65% of its original capacity. Subtle difference!

[@robertbrown1933]

@@ahaveland You are right and some newer G2 unit systems have around 80% are more capacity. I think thats A pretty good moble generator producing over 2000 watts of power on full charged batteries minus the inverter.

[@maricrisada1820]

Very nice Will, I think a 10-20kw leaf battery system is next project....this is what everyone will need to know

[@curtlankford1149]

Mr. Will. Your complaint about the two little red wires from the Anderson connector should have their own fuse: They ARE the fuse! :-)

[@ReflectedMiles]

The nice thing with these is not needing a low-temperature cutoff unless someone is going to use them in conditions down below 0F/-17.8C. Can't do that with LiFePo4 and can't do that with Tesla cells, but Nissan operates them down that low before heating back up to the mid-teens F. They don't move power easily down at those temperatures, but at least they don't self-destruct.

[@geraldhenrickson7472]

Why not get some chemistry more reliable and utilize a low temp cut off?

[@ReflectedMiles]

G Henrickson Because my particular usage requires functionality at low temps, not just disconnecting the charge source or the battery altogether. Heating LiFePo4 up automatically when needed is my preference, but it’s also my most expensive choice both in dollars and watts.

[@mfherreradi]

My best understanding is that those old Nissan leaf's modules does not combust in a thermal runaway/puncture/short event ... (based not on NMC chemistry, LiMn2O4/LiNiO2 instead)

[@paulwaters8252]

Hey Will. You might want to put a sheet of hardboard/masonite down on on your bench to prevent deep scratching and gouging. Great review. Thanks.

[@bentnickel7487]

A work bench top shouldn't be pristine. It should show the scars of thousands of hours of disassembling and reassembling. If you went to a master mechanic and all his tools looked new, would you trust him?

[@j.w.m.rhynejr9766]

Excellent repurposing information!! Thanks! Just when I get a plan in my head to sketch out and build, you throw in the ringer!! Now, I get to revamp the plan.

[@commonmogoreanu7135]

I have the same electronic load and it failed the same way ... shorted the fakin input. Bought some replacement mosfets and they can handle no more than ~80w before going short circuit. Great design.

[@consaka1]

Just need to get the cells post 2015. My wifes Leaf is doing great with 40k miles it still reads max on the battery.

[@AQUATICSLIVE]

Nice review, I found this one very interesting to learn about Nissan Leaf batteries. I like the second life concept for larger banks and mixes of systems. Like you said its really a DIY deal, think it would be best set up in a shed away from your house would be the best option for the second life battery concept. Like the old Junk Yard systems using piles old lead acid batteries.

[@marzsit9833]

not really an anderson powerpole connector, that's an anderson 50amp sb series connector. powerpoles are individual modular connectors that clip together to make any configuration that you need. the sb connectors are used on forklifts and other electric equipment and are color matched so only the same color connectors will mate together. the common color coded ones are: yellow=12vdc, red=24vdc, grey=36vdc and blue=48vdc. there are other colors for higher voltages and ones for oddball voltages like 18vdc and 32vdc as well.

[@WillProwse]

I actually looked that up and the 175 non power pole ones are listed as power pole, so I was confused. Thanks for clarifying that.

[@WillProwse]

Oh wow, cool to know about the voltages. Interesting

[@Sylvan_dB]

@@WillProwse powerwerx is a good place for all your anderson connector needs, and they call them powerpoles. However if you go to andersonpower you won't find the SB series in the powerpole section.

[@bentnickel7487]

Wouldn't surprise me if someone called upon you as an "expert witness" for the plaintive in a "used battery lawsuit". I would trust you to get my side of the story told. You're very easy to understand.

[@vtorsi610]

Except, those Nissan Leaf Modules are NOT NMC Chemistry, they are LMO + Nickel = ( LiMn2O4 with LiNiO2 ) - NO COBALT.

[@geraldhenrickson7472]

Thanks for the video Will. I am excited to see your upcoming video about the LiFe Po4 pack from BigBattery. Thanks!

[@RoaldKoger]

It's the same Chinese BMS that I have in my LiFePO4 battery,though this is the NMC variant. 60 amps continuous and COM ports for connecting a UART or Bluetooth device.

[@vtorsi610]

Except, those Nissan Leaf Modules are *NOT* NMC Chemistry, they are LMO + Nickel = ( LiMn2O4 with LiNiO2 ) - NO COBALT

[@mattsexton3762]

Cant wait for the byd video!! Im thinking may be an option for large mobile solar

[@ianthompson3520]

You are the appliance of battery science keep it up

[@radiotaccommunications1343]

This is exactly the test I was hoping for. I was going to use these batteries for a while house system...still might. I think I will go to the factory in California and get more info on how to use. Thanks will for this review

[@WillProwse]

I would wait for the byd pack, for sure. Hold tight.

[@radiotaccommunications1343]

Ok Will do, pun intended 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@mitchellbarnow1709]

Years from now you’ll be ready to tear into your Model S and give a second life to all of it’s components! Take care, Will

[@nickseamus7340]

I got a "consumers shouldnt handle bare cells" LG ad during the video... I laughed while watching the whole thing...

[@Mike-.]

Same here! I voluntarily watched the whole ad! Lol

[@mshock9637]

@@gerardjachymiak5822 What ad blocker are you using that it blocks even youtube? Seriously i need that in my life.

[@paftaf]

Slappy White Unicorn ad blocker. Doesn’t exist.

[@paftaf]

Nick Seamus It’s actually a great info.

[@mshock9637]

@@paftaf There ya go crushing my hopes and dreams. Lol.

[@newscoulomb3705]

6:52 I think you might be overselling the flammability concerns of NCM chemistry too much, and it's worth noting that Tesla uses NCA chemistry in their Powerwalls, which has been found to be far more volatile than NCM. The most common NCM batteries on the market at the moment are from the Bolt EV, i3, and LEAF, and I am not aware of a single battery fire associated with any of those vehicles. Yes, caution should be advised when constructing new battery packs, but spending nearly two minutes on the subject of NCM fires only to conclude with "no one should use them" seems a bit harsh.

[@Shmade0304]

Right thank you

[@sylvanenergy]

Thanks for the heads up Will.

[@nodogrunner]

Great video, you answered my questions. You rock! -Heavy, good for outside, cheap.

[@Worthrhetime]

Hey , I like fire as much as the next guy ... but thermal runaway, ya no Just can you can doesn’t always mean you should. If you can’t afford a good battery you probably can’t afford insurance. Always great info Will , thx

[@nkos6376]

omg, that scratch was painful! so, we keep cobalt cells outside and LIFEpo - LTO inside ;)

[@vtorsi610]

Except, those Nissan Leaf Modules are *NOT* NMC Chemistry, they are LMO + Nickel = ( LiMn2O4 with LiNiO2 ) - NO COBALT

[@4philipp]

I think the usefulness is based on how long the battery will last and how fast and how much it degrades. If I plan my system based on 65% capacity and after two years I only get 55% capacity that would be a huge loss. It’s hard to judge without knowing how the capacity curve goes down. But I also think it’s a good investment to buy new LiFePO and just use them for 20+ years. By that time it’s anyone’s guess what type of magic batteries we will have. But one thing is for sure, two sets of batteries will outlive me.

[@geraldhenrickson7472]

What else would it based upon? Two years of constant use could easily erode the capacity that much. Note that the battery industry is changing rapidly...20 years is a long time.

[@Lumbeelegend]

Omg, I was peeping those BYD batteries... thank you for the info

[@zeothorn]

You should be teaching in University bro! You are very good at it, no matter what you present, but I guess you doing better in here on KZbin!

[@ArcticSeaCamel]

I wonder what’s the ratio of charge-discharge-efficiency? So has the decreased 65% capacity affected the efficiency of the battery? I think that would be crucial if using these as solar batteries.

[@geraldhenrickson7472]

When I wonder...I google.

[@marksutton7937]

Would love to see a review and tear down of the Pylontech US2000b battery. What’s the chance of that ?

[@jamest.5001]

I noticed my cells wanted to go 4.3+ my charger wants to charge to 4.25, it will show wrong chemistry if it's in lihv for 18650's , I put one on lihv and vharged to 4.3 it held a fair amount of capacity, above 4.2v I know the leaf cells do have the capacity in higher than other batteries, I don't know if they are lihv and only charged to 4.2v by Nissan, or if it's something else!

[@OWK000]

You just need a battery shed made of aircrete, earth bag or autoclaved aerated concrete.

[@maricrisada1820]

Hempcrete is best

[@ROGERWALDMAN]

awesome video!

[@christynemathews2208]

Hello I love watching your video I am looking for something like this for my 48v golf cart what do you think or what would you recommend ?

[@bobolongo6550]

Do more vids on the LTO cells. The 55AH cell looks interesting. These cells will be the future of BATTERIES. Sound people are using them, to blow their ear drums out. (8

[@HM-pu9zc]

Will is so cute!!

[@theMekanik]

They should put a solar charge point on the beaches of california..... that would keep all the power users out of the coffee shops that they decided to remove all the wall outlets.....lol

[@broncoray3928]

Hi can you do a build on a budget battery for your golf cart please I also need the battery I would enjoy that video thank you

[@scottlaylow9936]

New to all this. I have one of these batteries and am looking to charge via solar panels. Do you have a link to one of your videos that might give me that detail? Thanks for your help in advance!

[@jimthvac100]

Great video I found another value on Ebay $300 for a 1.1 KW LTO pack out of a Honda. the packs are 1.1KW hours each in a series configuration of 24 SCiB cells. voltage a little high but most inverters can handle it. one could also break the pack into a 12S2P for 24 Volts or parallel four 6 cell packs 6S4P. Each cell is 20ah (They claim they tested at 20.5 though I have not done a ah test on them yet) have to cut some of the buss bars for 12 volt. but not for 48 or 24. I bought two. I want to use them in a 24V maintenance truck. Ideally 6 cells for 12V, 11 cells for 24V and 22 Cells for 48.

[@WillProwse]

Holy cow that's cool

[@geraldhenrickson7472]

Voltage is a little high? How high is a little high?

[@dnetne5508]

Will.....BROWSE Edit: Sorry, I love you :'D

[@chrislewis9345]

So how many years or cycles do you think you'd get out of say 6 of those packs in series running a whole house situation?Was thinking of using those exact cells around 10-16kwh wall hooked to (3) mppsolar lv5048 with say 4kwh solar?Still learning but I think I'm getting it.Wife and I are going to build offgrid in a few years so soaking up knowledge.Thanks keep the videos coming

[@geraldhenrickson7472]

Better ask that over at the powerwall forum Will mentioned.

[@banjobenson9348]

Thanks for the update, I was curious if you had found anything like the MPC all in one unit of a charge controller, transfer switch , and inverter all in one that was improved , I am doing a cargo trailer conversion and think individual components would be too complicated for a small task, Thanks

[@DailyDriver.]

Did your outlook on these change recently? Do you recommend them now a days?

[@jeebangurung7014]

Good advice n explaine about used batteries.

[@markp8295]

I may have misunderstood. Why would you need thick cables going to the volt meter? They are designed with high resistance in mind to stop high current. Also.... Aren't thin cables basically a sketchy fuse. :D

[@WillProwse]

Sure but it could overheat in a overload. Those are cheap little volt meters. I don't trust it. Would rather have a fuse.

[@WillProwse]

Haha sketchy fuse

[@willdatsun]

@@WillProwse fuse covered in flammable plastic :)

[@mannyr9225]

For most people these are just gonna be set somewhere and so they don't care about the weight. They definitely should market them as 2.8 kwh though.

[@geraldhenrickson7472]

No...For most people, weight is everything. There are over a million people full timing in the country and as lead acid systems dwindle...

[@absolutecowitness6608]

LmAo! I literally just put these batteries in my golf cart last week. 7s2p The cart rips! We have about three hours of hauling horse poo, and still at 51 volts. Also shaved 420 lb off the cart! P.s. mine are 85% G2 batteries 👍 😎😎😎😎😎😎

[@WillProwse]

That's an awesome application of these cells!! Very cool. Must be so fun now 😁

[@absolutecowitness6608]

@@WillProwse going to put a 300 watt solar panel on the roof next 😎😎😎😎😎😎

[@techtactics788]

Damn. Almost impossible to get this in the UK

[@callmebigpapa]

Why not cool these diy packs with mineral oil immersion?

[@andrewradford3953]

Just purchased a Leaf battery with 48 modules. Plan to update my battery pack on my ride on mower conversion. Would be great to make a nice enclosure like these, to swap out packs. Running a Motenergy ME-1004 brushed motor. Any suggestions? Maybe two 52v packs to halve demand and keep temperature down.

[@joshuakuberski8002]

72v battery with leaf battery's how many do you need .to make 72v

[@NEWNATURE777]

Great, thanking you for your advice, knowledge understanding 👍

[@dustinstewart4049]

I have 6 of these battery packs having trouble with top battery swelling got any ideas

[@radiotaccommunications1343]

Also Will, what do you think of the price point for what you receive?

[@richsusanjefferson3826]

I have a 48v victron quattro. When you do the byd test it would be nice to know if their system can be series connected to 48v

[@kellyhardman9932]

Is this something I can charge and be used at the same time? We need a pass through to the electicrical system. Can we charge and discharge at the same time?

[@vtorsi610]

It is a Li-Ion battery with a BMS. Either you are charging a battery or you are discharging a battery. You cannot charge and discharge any battery "at the same time".

[@georgekersey2679]

Will, what is your thoughts in using two of these on a 48 volt golf cart?

[@Jason-zg3nl]

Can you look at this battery that big battery has? 24V LiFePO4 4-4.5 Kwh Battery Modules

[@burtonnystrom4606]

Thanks again Will 😎😎😎

[@miked.7245]

So I looked at the big battery website and I saw the Nissan Leaf complete battery (G1) and I noticed it had a whopping 24KWH. Would this work for a solar battery?

[@geraldhenrickson7472]

You might contact the seller, explain your system and ask them. Or do some intensive research to determine what would work for you.

[@vtorsi610]

@Awe Fill Mike Mike - Only if you take it apart and reconfigure the modules ...

[@Broke_Expat]

I can't find these any where... ANyone having any luck ? Or a link to the Tesla equivalent ?

[@niffrig]

Tesla NCA battery chemistry is more susceptible to thermal runaway than this NMC chemistry. This is why Tesla Powerwalls use NMC chemistry. Personally I would still use LiFePO4 for this application.

[@WillProwse]

I agree

[@vtorsi610]

NO, those Nissan Leaf Modules are NOT NMC Chemistry, they are LMO + Nickel = ( LiMn2O4 with LiNiO2 ) - NO COBALT !!!

[@voodoo-rides]

Will Great videos and tips have you heard of graphene batteries and what are your thoughts on them ? I been hearing more n more about the chemistry i searched to see if you had done any testing didnt find any.

[@josephgrant9137]

Thanks Der Guy..

[@FrancescoOliveri]

I was wating for this video.

[@stevelake5943]

Is it necessary to use a bms when using two Nissan Leaf modules for a 12 volt Application?

[@bellshooter]

There are NO used car batteries going into landfill, they are ALL either used for power walls or broken down to provide spares/repairs to existing EV battery packs. The BMS includes cell temperature monitoring on all commercial power walls and are in no way 'dangerous'.

[@geraldhenrickson7472]

None? That is a strong descriptor. No way dangerous? LiFePo4 maybe...There are no guarantees Dave.

[@jamest.5001]

I have leaf batteries, I split one so I can run 7s it was really easy, just cut the link, and drill holes, in the tab, up to 1/4" I used 5mm, so the holes were just under 1/4", and ran 8 gauge wire out of the original case, it looks like its original, except for the 8 gauge cable out the top, it can have the original connection for pos from one cell, 8ga from the other,

[@suggestionbox19]

Awesome- well said, thank you

[@jhonkhan8153]

You've got great looking eye 👁 that's kool 😎

[@williamsolano2571]

Good job 👏 bro!!

[@ericbraun4652]

Does your upcoming LiFePO4 battery weigh 165 pounds by chance? :) I sure hope you like it because I've got 10 of them in my powerwall... can hardly wait to see what you're doing with LiFePO4!

[@brichusi]

I have been using the Gen 2 packs from these guys in my @SolarAmbulance Instagram.. for year now. Look forward to any suggestions you have to other options I might check out.

[@partyk1d24]

Would this work with the solar edge inverter that supports a battery? I got one assuming I would get a battery later so it has the port it needs.

[@danr5105]

I want to power a laptop,60W (audio) guitar amp and a 35" TV (this is my outside guitar learning studio) I plan on installing everything in an automobile. I ask for ideas. Like should I replace my AC compressor with a 115 AC generator in addition to an inverter? Looking for ideas to get a steady,clean 10-15 amps of 115V AC. My donor "power station" auto is a 1995 Buick with a 3.8V6. Not too tough to hang the AC generator(2-4000W dual bearing) but after that I am low on ideas. Yes a long extension cord from the house would be easier.

[@geraldhenrickson7472]

You have the ideas...just need to do more research. I would stay low voltage to match a battery pack and put my money in a good inverter. You will need a lot of battery to supply the "house wall outlet" power you seek for very long.

[@michaelsrowland]

How much did you pay for the battery?

[@micjakes1]

Love your videos Will. Hey Will, minivan Mike referred me. i am installing a 48 volt system in my van. Can i run a wire from the van battery, with an isolator, to a step up transformer, 12v to 48v to charge the battery bank?

[@vtorsi610]

Use a DC-to-DC Li-Ion Charge Controller

[@raybacchus1026]

Good job will thanks

[@CrAzYDr1veR]

nice spark :)

[@MS-ie1gs]

That was my idea. Mine!

[@davidcox8961]

My 2011 Leaf's battery has 60% SOH, 35 miles range. Given that it was designed for vehicle to home/grid why not just leave the batteries in the car and use it as a power source. I has it's own battery charger built in. How best to get power from it?? Anyone got ideas?

[@onegreenev]

Ok, so please list those fires that were caused by failed Leaf Modules since you are making the claim. I use Leaf Modules and have not heard or read a single incident. I know of issues of batteries but nothing specific to Leaf Modules.