4AGE 20v Blacktop Screaming at 8,250rpm - AE100 Corolla

[@lmblau]

Hello fellow 4AGE blacktop owner. Just wanted to say i get how awesome it feels driving a corolla with the blacktop. It's Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde. AE101, 6-speed, Superstrut, 4AGE blacktop

[@cxbra]

I have a AE102 thats bone stock with 200,000 miles (still running great though) and auto transmission :(. I cant complain though, It was my aunt's car for the last 13 years and I really want to keep it for another 10 years at least! In the next few years I would like to drop in a 4AGE and 6 speed transmission swap, this video keeps my love alive!

[@TheFlacker99]

One of my FAVORITE engines

[@Cretkensigh]

damn, only 120k sounds like it's still in it's prime =D I'd be keen to see this when it's all finished. Again, it makes a very nice sound.

[@Gach22]

Nice swap man keep like this take care thar piece of art!!!!

[@reddo619]

very cool sounding

[@HotForgeChaos]

I wish I'd bought this car so bad, especially now I'm stuck with a rattly old ST190 Corona and a UCF30 Lexus

[@Mrfiveboy]

My dream engine

[@carbineish]

lol ikr, thas why i was like whoaa!! but beautiful sounding car man lookin to get a ae111 levin in the nxt few months 4age 20v bt :)

[@Roller_ae86]

i just dont know any body with one and this video is a good reference. i guess it just feels sluggish until the revs get higher but then its like another car. a real sleeper.

[@michaelyo1377]

I LOVE SOUNDS 😍😍🔥🔥

[@skyracercr]

That sounds awesome I just bought a 94 Corolla DX ae10 2 I had the car for 2 years now and it has 140 to my house I bought it at 125 and it is my first car and I've never thought I would like a Toyota now I'm trying to find parts for it do you know what website do you go to I'm in the States I live in Manhattan New York

[@Roller_ae86]

i dont think its ever idled that low but yeah when the idle is at its lowest it does have a rough idle. also i put my coolant temp. sensor in the block off plate i made for the front of the head. i think its reading too much of the cooler water coming in. i also made a swirl tank like the greddy one and the return on it is after the thermostat instead of it being before, i think the water is flowing too fast and it wont heat up the water. im pretty sure all of that is a problem.

[@Cordia4G63T]

Engine is a 4A-GE 20v Blacktop, transplanted from a JDM AE101 Corolla BZ Touring wagon. Different engine than stock.

[@alansmilealot]

What came stock in your country, we had a choice of the 4afe and 7afe in the us. Never got a 4age option which is sad. I think Corolla after 91 lost that option

[@Cretkensigh]

. what sort of other cars have you driven? it could be your just not use to the high end power of the 20v, granted they are only a 1.6 but they do only really come alive around the 4-5k rpm. This guy has either had a lot of refreshing done to the engine or he's kept it well looked after. that sound is to die for ^^ hope you get yours sorted at some point. I'm sitting about 181k and plan to do a full rebuild at 200k, she still pulls nicely and sounds good but I want more of each lol

[@eegaze]

hey mate, nice car!.. how much hp are you getting out of that blacktop?.. have you timed 0-100km?

[@Cretkensigh]

LoL damn.....I have almost no idea what you said there. I only ask because My VVT pulley went bad and that what I had happened. was really slow under 3500-4000rpm like it couldn't breath right or a bad fuel/air mix. sounds like you know a lot more then I do about the old 4age

[@Roller_ae86]

i have a toyota 180 thermostat so i know thats not it. crusing it only gets to 160 but remember im reading this in the block off plate. at idle on a warm day it will go to 200 to 210. but if i rev it up the temp will drop to 160. thats why i think its flowing too fast due to the swirl tank return being in the wrong spot. but when it reads 190 or better the car runs pretty strong. i need to stop being lazy and fix these things. o yeah and i burn oil im pretty sure its the rings.

[@Roller_ae86]

hey i have a bt in an ae86 and i was wondering does it ever feel really slow below 4 grand? my blacktop, its like it only comes all alive at like 4500 and pulls hard. somethings up with my car i think its too rich. it back fires out the exhaust a lot.

[@Luxray694]

love how your name says vtec

[@Samqdf]

are these some of my SQ-Eng stacks?

[@carbineish]

what happened at 4:03 lol car shot out a bit there :)

[@Cretkensigh]

your VVT pully maybe bad, does it idle really rough say around 600rpm?

[@MichaelSodapop]

How hard would it be to swap this into a 1993 Geo Prizm? Currently it just has a 1.6L 3 speed auto, I'd like to keep it auto but maybe a 4 or 5 speed.

[@alansmilealot]

U ever figure things out?

[@keloduma]

where was this

[@Cordia4G63T]

New Zealand.

[@WtfJudah]

How difficult was it to swap the wiring harness over from 4afe to 4age? cheers.

[@Cordia4G63T]

It was easy in my case as I used the engine harness from a JDM Corolla BZ Touring wagon, and since my sedan was already a JDM model the connectors were exactly the same). The only wires on the harness that were different were for the A/C, but that was easy to swap over. Takes more work on a US/non-JDM model though of course, but still not overly difficult if you're good with wires and reading diagrams.

[@MASufi]

man is that a another car engine.Or it is the same engine but modified.I have a car like this and I want to make it like this.so Plz tell me where to gat it from.And where should I contact.

[@odesoftami]

за сколько сек до 100ки ? быстрее чем МL550 там 5.8 сек)

[@ПавелКуриленко-у8з]

Не плохой предшественник или как его можно назвать "Брат Toyota Sprinter and Corolla я полагаю это самы мощные автомобили начала 90х, да и сейчас они не слабые по сути

[@LouieP1110]

Nice! In my neighbour hood haha

[@brentmager6066]

nothing like going for a cane around the back roads of mangere

[@HotForgeChaos]

Takanini bruh, note all the Halls trucks all down the road. I used the same roads in my FXGT and ran out of brakes after 2 solid pulls lololol

[@DiAmOnD595]

isn't the '93 ae100 the first of the FF platform? or is it the last of the FR?

[@Cordia4G63T]

Corollas have been FF since the AE82 in the 80's. The AE100/AE101 series however began in Japan from 1991 to late 1995, whereas in the US they were manufactured from 1993-1997.

[@FonZ4590]

Full-Throttle AE86 is rear wheel, older levins too

[@Cordia4G63T]

Fons van der Pol Yes, AE86 goes without saying, but I was giving an example of where Toyota changed to FWD in their mainstream Corollas (AE82, AE92 etc).

[@PotentialDifference1]

Sounds like the 2ZZ-GE

[@EddSlv14]

No, it sounds WAY better since it's 20v. Coming from an owner of a 2ZZ-GE Celica.

[@boostedcaldina]

crazy bastard lol sounds bloody mean though

[@fc1jz51]

fuel consumption ?

[@Cordia4G63T]

8L per 100km.

[@fc1jz51]

impressive, performance engine with economy really impressive, and thanks bro for the reply appreciated!!! regards. (subscribed)

[@pashag3328]

Full-Throttle Is that engine comes with Automatic Transmission

[@Roller_ae86]

yeah check out my videos im running it pretty hard on some country roads.

[@Muddicker]

So whats so good about it?????

[@ToreDL87]

because open stacks

[@nikeelm]

just the noise ..ITB FTW

[@ToreDL87]

It`s been two years now and thought I`d WIDELY expand on the issue. Sure enough, the sound and response combo can`t be topped for us N/A guys. That said, newer turbo`s are getting better at the response but with turbo comes cost, reliability and wear disadvantages on 1.6 mecha tune engines and the factory drivetrains built for those.. And thats IF you live in a country that allows such a visible modification on the vehicle without paying FORTUNES to get it approved, which defeats the point of having a Corolla as a cheap street "racer". For those who dont have that problem, those in most states of U.S.A for example, sure, pursue your dreams and put the turbo on, but at that point you will find you need the stronger Celica transmission and corresponding adapter++, all of which again is gonna cost a fortune if you`re just slapping a turbo on there. You could go 2.0 3S-GTE but then why not just go Celica right off the bat.. If not, then of course comes the time when you want even more power out of that turbo 1.6, I`m not even going too much into that but suffice to say that a combination of 1.8 7afe block, forged pistons and rods, with a 4A-GE head on top is expensive as hell, thats before we add custom intake, aftermarket management and wiring harness... Just to explain, for most, unless with free availability for a mill to create the adapter and other R&D (every build is different so theres always a wheel to re-invent) that`s a 10000+ USD enterprise before you even take it for a no-bonnet test drive around the neighborhood. So all that re-invention, and you`re still stuck with a Corolla when you at that point could have had a AWD or FWD Celica with a safely boosted 300-350hp 3SGTE for a fraction of the price. RWD Celica-Supra MK.II or MK.III Supra with 1JZ/2JZ and ridicilous amounts of boost is a good one also. Either way, good for you, I`m happy for you (seriously), turbo`s are a LOT of fun, the acceleration perks (when you learn to tackle wheel spin on the way out of the corner) can`t be beat. It`s just that, engine noise aside, I prefer the quicker, cheaper turn-around time of a slightly modified stock ITB equipped N/A motor (headers, intake modifications, exhaust to enhance response and torque delivery) from building it inside the Garage to driving on the Street, and gives more fun and lets me focus on driving the thing :)

[@brandonphipps8244]

Not one bit of that sounded like 8500rpm. Your vvt-I sensor or tps sounds like it is out of time. There should be at least 4 progressions of timing, not one solid rise. Itbs sound in tune, so there's a plus. But Ya, that sounded kinda weak :/

[@Cordia4G63T]

Learn to read, it's 8,250rpm, not 8,500rpm. The 4A-GE 20v doesn't have VVT-i, it's VVT. Timing advances as soon as VVT kicks in, which is dynamic and goes based on throttle position, not RPM.

[@brandonphipps8244]

Fundementally rpm is directly related to throttle position. That's why I said check your tps. If you slow rev it to 9k you will see the timing belt react in stages. But if you are 100%/0% on your clocking the staging will flatten out. I'm not attacking you I'm just saying that I used to bang rev limit daily with the exact same motor and it sounded a lot different.

[@Cordia4G63T]

Brandon Phipps Yes, that's true to a point, the two are related but not as directly as the previous Silvertop engine (which I also own in an AE101 FX-GT). The car has a brand new VVT pulley and the I've confirmed that the TPS is operating correctly by using OBD-I software and driving around with the laptop, watching the throttle position as the revs increase. I wasn't attacking you either, though after a while the comments on here (not on this particular video however) wear my patience thin as a lot of people seem to have an opinion on "how much faster theirs is" etc when it's extremely difficult to gauge a true sense of speed or sound from a simple KZbin video, which wasn't intended to prove anything to anyone. Feel free to check out my other video where the mic is mounted in the engine bay instead.

[@deanbassist01]

Brandon Phipps I dont think you understand a 4AGE 20v. So this being a blacktop, a few different RPM limits are possible depending on ECU, highest being 8250rpm. Both 20v Silvertop and Blacktop use a simple 2 stage (ON/OFF) VVT system, it has an economy cam profile and an advanced timing profile, it can be operated with a simple switch, and the ECU engages or disengages it based on load. There are not 4 progressions, this is not VVT-i, there is 1 progression, and the engagement is often soft and not harsh like VTEC or a a multi step valve timing/lift control like MIVEC, the idea for this is stability in high speed cornering.

[@brandonphipps8244]

Look at the title bud. That in no way was "screaming". Thanks for the lecture tho, because you sir, obviously don't understand that variable timing works in a way that creates a maximum efficiency based on rpm. Basic rpm works in that it goes up and up at a constant basis. Vvt vvti (VARIABLE valve timing) inputs electronic VARIABLES that change rev patterns throughout the single cycle. Try it. You may learn something. There are 6or so ecus for this motor. I had the second highest lifting console. I hit 9k in less than a second on a daily. So if you don't understand that progressive cycling changes the rev pitch systematically as the revs increase, then you don't understand vvt or 20v. And clearly you don't understand that the entire point of that motor was to implement that fundemental basis in response to hondas version that didn't even work until you were so pinned you needed to hit the next gear. Thanks for your thoughts tho. Do some research.

[@DatNinjaGuyD]

sounds similar to a f20c or any other honda engine

[@erfederizo]

Nope. If you hear it live, it sounds more awesome. Those ITBs are fucking music! Especially when rev'ed hard

[@red88alert]

Sexy rolla ;D

[@Cretkensigh]

or engines for that matter.

[@taswellbarthus4032]

The car seems dead on torque.. you literally have to ring its neck to get alittle bit of pulling power

[@Cordia4G63T]

That's the whole appeal......

[@Mrfiveboy]

@Luxray694 , im bi , i love Toyota and honda ;)

[@spizzy_Spazz]

Kinda sounds like a vtec

[@Mika-gs6rm]

so AMAZING !!! =) great engine ahah me i have 16V, the best engine 4age for life. check my channel i make video on my ae82 gt

[@NicholasLyonz]

sound like VTEC LOL

[@Proff0ak]

Nicholas Purwanto Yep. It's just constant Vtec, it's always kicked in. Yo...

[@Kaisuke971]

+Nicholas Purwanto I'd say a bit more beefy. VTEC engines (especially on the EK9 and S2K) sound more like high revving flatplane V8 (Ferrari-LIke). This one reminds me of the 2.5l M3 E30 Sport Evo, and 190E 2.5-16 Evolution II !

[@spstudio9229]

pala otak kau vtec

[@bavyeralii]

VVT system

[@skyracercr]

Voice to text sucks I'm trying to say miles 125

[@TheTalkShytShow]

Learn to change quicker plz.U need to pull the car properly