4K Gaming on a budget PC review

See the follow-up video where I address the criticism that this video has received.
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What's 4K like for gaming? Time to find out! And no, you don't need a 4K monitor to watch this video. It's designed with HD in mind... but will probably look slightly nicer if you watch it in 4K, though youtube currently limits it to 30 fps :( See below:
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0:00 - Intro
0:27 - 4K pictures and my verdict on the jump
2:17 - 4K Gaming problems + my setup
3:25 - Operation Flashpoint
3:59 - CS:GO
5:07 - Left 4 Dead 2 and Portal 2
5:29 - Arma 3
6:10 - Skyrim
6:53 - GTA 5
7:37 - Cities: Skylines
8:14 - Rome 2: Total War
8:50 - Crysis 3
9:23 - Conclusion and whether it's worth it
10:27 - Upgrading your PC
11:38 - Returning to HD again
12:59 - What I'll be using 4K for
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[@iNoToRiOuS]

Make sure you're using uncompressed pictures for comparisons...

[@devinarato69420]

Ai upscaling prequel

[@benjaminjones8782]

Wow

[@thatnongayfurry5063]

Is that the inotorious before blowing up on youtube?

[@patrlim]

@@thatnongayfurry5063 I think so

[@usbhub95]

People who complain about him using a mid-range graphics card need to shut up because he said he was using it to see how mid-range gaming pcs would run, not high end 2x GTX 980's and an i7-6700K

[@MCMinerHQ]

+2kliksphilip that's super respectable. I also have the same internal policy. I scrounge ebay for the older cards that were considered epic, like the HD4870x2 from AMD. I also took a GTX680 and put a cpu heatsink on it. I found that a crossfire of two HD4870x2's can keep up with GTX960's and similar.

[@usbhub95]

2kliksphilip I don't see the need for 4k as of today mainly because I would enjoy a much better gaming experience with my 144Hz monitor rather than with a 4k 60Hz monitor. I have a high-end GPU so I can run most of my games with anti aliasing or super sampling which delivers a respectable graphical experience compared to 4k. I also completely agree on your statement as the 980 Ti is around $1000 AUD! That's only 500 pounds but still! A lot of money! I don't know what currency you use but I use AUD, which is a really weak currency at the moment which makes it hard for me to get higher end stuff. I did recently get a new rig not that long ago though it was $2.5k AUD which is only 1.25k pounds! Is that a lot of money for british people? For you I recommend waiting until the next generation AMD Graphics cards come out or if you can't wait for good 4k cards, go with the AMD Radeon R9 295X2 If you have enough case space and money to spend :/ as it is a beast of a card and also a beast that will take all of your money! My rig has a R9 390X (Overkill) and an i7 4790k which i would recommend to everybody because it is a beast of a cpu for a decent price @ 4.4Ghz Turbo clock! Keep up the good content, ~Cooper

[@usbhub95]

***** His whole point was to see what 4k was like on older cards, as he said in the video. So basically his whole point was to put a car engine in a truck to see how it ran and to no surprise, not very well but that was his point in the first place.

[@usbhub95]

Adam Slowinski Low-end, High-end, What's in the middle? I don't care because medium-end gets the point across.

[@usbhub95]

***** He already did that lol. Look up his video "Potato Torture"

[@fallingbed1]

No one's talking about Klik wearing a choker...

[@devinarato69420]

In one of his ocd videos he also has a picture of him and vexxsie with chokers on, lel.

[@EliteSniperTV]

so this is why 1440p exists. best of both worlds. I have a 27inch 1440p monitor and my gtx 770 runs it just fine. 4k isn't ready, 1440p is.

[@foufoufun]

+EliteSniperTV Heh, I wouldn't be so sure. I have a 770 as well and it reached its limit with Black Desert at 1080p (~45 fps on max settings except that silly high end setting that does nothing but reduce popping a bit). I like to max out graphics and keep my 60 fps so like the guy said in his video, 1080p is still the sweat spot and will probably stay that way for 2-3 more years. It's one thing to be able to play the current games at high resolution on max settings but it's nice to be able to still do it with the same computer 3-4 years later without having to upgrade every year.

[@EliteSniperTV]

+foufoufun0 I mainly play cs, and I don't mind lower settings. also you don't need anti aliasing. in other games I'm usually on high for most things

[@foufoufun]

***** For latest games, that is the best strategy. 4K is here but it is still expensive. For me, having the graphics on highest is a bigger priority than having a huge resolution. 1080p still do just fine. My next monitor will be a 144hz and probably be wider than 16:9 aspect ratio. I'm just waiting for this one I have right now to break (=.

[@DuecePiece]

I'm actually running the Dell 34" 21:9 with an i7 Alienware Alpha, ultra settings on Black Mesa looks incredible. I would love to know why Nvidia wouldn't allow me to play Fallout 4 at 21:9 w/o an update, I do and it looks amazing. Get another update yesterday to enhance gaming even further and now my Fallout won't allow me to go over 1080p, anyone else have this issue? Or issues with Nvidia updates in general? If so I would love to hear them and maybe a possible solution to these insane updates

[@marcjan2500]

+EliteSniperTV no it doesnt, it sucks because 1080p content looks like shit on a 1440p monitor, it doesnt on a 4k monitor

[@ligh5]

That moment,when you play your games on 800x600-1024x768 to get good fps... :(

[@Fjall99]

ligh Did you last upgrade your PC in 2009?

[@amahulacs372]

ligh Lol my potato laptop can handle 40fps if i use 1024x768. At least my potato doesn't have a giant scratch in it.

[@Fjall99]

Amahula Cs Am I the only one here who doesnt own an old potato laptop?

[@amahulacs372]

undercoverpivotdudes I guess a lot of people own a normal decent laptop or pc, but you won't hear them whine about it. You just hear us whine about it.

[@SH0NKAY]

Amahula Cs yeah my laptop gets like 20-30 fps with the worst graphics/800x600 (in cs) and its the only pc i have :(

[@111111222223]

21:9 1440p all the way.

[@kanan348]

Power puncher Agree . The sweet spot IMO.

[@anders_x3]

Power puncher there is no such thing as 21:9 1440p its either 1440p (2560x1440) or 21:9 with 1440 height(3440x1440)

[@SamToshi]

Power puncher Exactly. I would never want to go back to 16:9.

[@Goldfish_Vender]

Andy Nelson You could overclock your 24" 1080p monitor to run at 1440p

[@YeOleBaz]

Andy Nelson dat be da standard.

[@ozzieggg]

Cheers for the down to earth review. We need less hyping and more real world difference reviews at this time. Subbed

[@Pan_Z]

I know a lot of the comments here a asinine and berating, but, on behalf of many, thank you. Your graphics card is about that of the average PC gamer. This info affects the largest amount of us in the avid PC community

[@Donmegamuffin]

Alternatively, that beautiful sweet middleground of 1440p 144Hz

[@Efka8811]

Donmegamuffin as a guy with a 4K monitor and a beast PC i agree

[@Donmegamuffin]

2kliksphilip Aye, as a stepping stone between the mediums right now it may be, but right here, in the now, you're currently sitting on the best of both worlds, and currently have some tangible benefits over 4k for general day to day stuff which include no need for text scaling (don't fuck this up windows 10), and actually not getting such a huge performance hit for running that fat resolution, whilst still maintaining that extra ~70% boost in pixel count. Also, I don't think I'll ever go back to 60Hz after seeing the light shine upon me from the heavens that is high-refreshrate monitors *Angelsong* ***** Yes mate. You liking using 4k over your previous?

[@Efka8811]

Donmegamuffin my previous was a ps3 so yeah quite a jump from 30 fps 720p

[@Donmegamuffin]

***** Welcome to the master race ^^

[@Wafftop]

Donmegamuffin I heard that monitor is as reliable as an old ford.

[@Mateoski97]

4K is something that's too early.

[@Stanley-px3bt]

Mateoski Productions Agreed. We are about 6 months to a year away from 4k gaming being practical.

[@Kerim9991]

Mateoski Productions 4K gaming should have came with the upcoming gpu generation.

[@Hboogie182]

Mateoski Productions The AMD Fury X and GTX 980 Ti runs 4k perfectly. Whether you can afford them or not is YOUR problem.

[@Stanley-px3bt]

I can wait. I have dual 780 TI and dual Asus 144hz monitors. I paid $2,500 USD total for this system a few years ago. I can afford it, but do not want to upgrade right now, until Directx 12 and the occulus rift, and the new CPUs and GPUs are out next year. 4K and VR will mature by then. 4K is still a waste at this time, at least for me. If I can't game at 100-144Hz at 4K yet, why bother?

[@Mateoski97]

Kawaii Ninja I'm not talking money. It's just not practical to use it yet.

[@sadekausi]

I actually can really, really, really notice the difference with 4k and hd.

[@XDempsyX]

Greyshizzle Yeah me too. Ever since I upgraded my pc and bought a 4k monitor, the difference is huge. But if the game fps is too low on 4k, I just switch to 1440p or 1080p

[@vertex_pixel]

Greyshizzle Yep the difference is there if u compare it in real life, but he really don't care that is unfortunate

[@fartloudYT]

Greyshizzle without zooming in?

[@sadekausi]

kickedsazabi Well you can make out the little details way more clearly, just look at the video when he compares the two.

[@fartloudYT]

Greyshizzle only when he zooms in.

[@astaroth5024]

It vexes me how can people be so rude to such a chill dude, been watching all your vids ever since I watched and loved the olgrub trilogy haha

[@n4thanfv]

*Philip, silly you: the next generation of CPUs and GPUs will ALWAYS be around the corner, with their promise of bumping performance or lowering the prices of current tech! :p*

[@LadsRedefined]

Pink Freud here again posting all of his comments in *BOLD* *Seriously though, I should pick up this habit so everyone knows I'm important.*

[@darcyweedman9716]

Pink Freud exactly

[@slobert]

Pink Freud *My opinion matters, LOOK AT IT IN DARK BOLD COLOURS. OOOOOOOOH YEAH.*

[@LadsRedefined]

Adolf Hitler *OMG YOU GUYS SHOULD TOTALLY LISTEN TO THIS GUY!*

[@xnabber]

Pink Freud You're right. but why do you have to critisize him almost in all his videos?

[@whirled_peas]

1:41 Hahahahah that nose grab.

[@MandishFyre]

Lmao

[@wantab3648]

“just friends”

[@OGPatriot03]

I prefer 1440p 144 hertz Freesync, powered by 2 FuryXs.

[@johntucker23]

+Patriot 03 agree totally apart from the amd cards i use Nvidia.

[@OGPatriot03]

john tucker 2 of them? Your poor soul :( SLI/noise from 2 980 tis is... bad.

[@johntucker23]

naaa i use asus rog 980ti matrix platinums, fans dont even spin most of the time.

[@OGPatriot03]

Babybarschalarm None of the high end hardware makes noise when it's not being used. What a silly thing for you to mention. And speaking from experience, the 980 ti is just as loud as a 290x, which I also used 2 of for a while. One is okay, 2 under load is a jet engine.

[@johntucker23]

to any hc gamer the sound of the pc/graphics cards should be of no importance what so ever, what do you do when you play games...usually... wear headphones...so you can't hear anything anyway. According to my wife my pc is really loud if i'm playing a graphically intensive game, but i never hear is because im playing the game :)... So in the end....who gives a shit...

[@mintlou]

Nice video Philip, such a huge amount of editing work gone into this and the outcome is great. It really must have taken hours to capture that much clip and adjust settings just to do it again, then add it all to a video complete with voice over.

[@ndrewwb]

I like it how you changed your annotation at the start from 980 Ti to 1080 xD

[@riveraluciano]

Funny how this still holds up 5 years later.

[@riveraluciano]

Ashley yeah, if quite well is barely 60fps. My point is, to this day, 4k is absolutely useless for gaming (my opinion, of course). Devs could be pushing for higher texture detail, model complexity or sth else. The only thing that makes sense to me when it comes to upscaling is not relying on msaa, and the fact that at 1080p the cpu is the bottleneck.

[@riveraluciano]

@@malachaicarter4338 can you do cyberpunk 2077 at 4k raytracing?

[@Rusiputki]

The blur effects in your comparison shots added on Sony Vegas Pro are outstanding. Very good fake way to show the difference between HD and 4k

[@WellBeSerious12]

One point about fidelity and resolution: the higher the resolution used, the lower ALL other details matter (mostly antialiasing). Of course render/draw distance is important for competitive games too. The point is to experiment with all settings so you get what works best for you, with each computer.

[@palm3175]

4kliksphilip confirm

[@jackmcdonagh1086]

1440p is a good middleground between 1080p and 4K

[@roguechicken9048]

longest video ever ? great video crispy

[@Vegatablez]

2kliksphilip Thank you so much for this review, i have literally been hunting for months for a video like this. I understand that max settings in 4k isnt reasonable for most current hardware, but i dont exactly need or care for some of the higher settings that games offer. If you get a newer card like an r9 390 or 290x i'd love to see another review like this, keep it up!

[@nikolygtx8848]

and here i\m perfectly happy with mine 900p

[@WhiteGXRoblox]

nikolygtx same, 1080p is unnecessary for me, i dropped to 900p it gain me more fps and it still looks fine

[@firepenguinmcdiscopanda9314]

but, how can it run Tetris?

[@444thatssevenfours4]

It's a small thing to bring up, but i really appreciated the way you showed the differences between HD and 4K so that i didn't have to pause the video and rewind.

[@ryberzome]

High quality, thorough video. Nice job

[@noillaas]

First we need to make 1440p a standard reachable resolution before jumping to 4K

[@noillaas]

***** And how much did your rig cost? When I say a reachable standard, I mean it should be affordable just like 1080p gaming.

[@noillaas]

***** See right now, a 970 can play 1080p games amazingly, but 1440p it plays them pretty good at around 40-50 fps. It's not hitting minimum 60 fps yet. The 970 is also around 450$ where I live, so that is not affordable yet. I say in the next year or two a higher tier version of a GTX xx70 series will do 1440p gaming just fine, but the cost is the issue.

[@Exia2004]

+Allion1 nope just forget 1440p and go 4k

[@Exia2004]

+Jay Jay games that dont scale good in 4k are old games and SC2 is an 2010 games and scales great in 4k

[@NoName-oj5km]

agreed

[@tostimir]

I don't know why i laughed so much when he grabbed that girls nose with the cursor.

[@MustangFastback]

Hell of a good review. Nice job

[@Koolkid736]

i really like this video, because you show what it's like to game at 4k with the kind of pc most people would have for gaming. i have a gtx 960 and use a 1080p monitor and 1440p monitor (dual monitor). i play more demanding games on the 1080p and then for games like csgo or league of legends i play on the 1440p. it works well.

[@MTigersClan]

For professional CS:GO HD is more than enough.

[@Bananahead88]

***** It's the other way around. Most of them don't use 4:3 anymore.

[@Bananahead88]

***** It does seem like they're just changed to stretched, yes. No need to get mad though.

[@Bananahead88]

***** Oh, i see. I'd like to see even more pros to move on to 16:9. Though i can see that it'd be kind of hard when/if you've played cs for like 15 years on lower resolutions and different aspect ratios.

[@999okoli]

Bananahead88 i play on 4:3 streched so its easier to hit my target

[@cybersteel8]

BananaSopuli They used a stretched resolution because it makes everything wider on the screen, and thus feels easier to hit. Note: *feels* easier to hit.

[@watsyurdeal]

Personally, until I see 4k 144 hz monitors, I don't give a shit. I don't even have 1440p right now since I can't get past 100 frames on most games maxed out with my setup. 1080p is exactly where I want to be for the next 5 years. Also, if that chick is your gf, congrats, she's a cutie. :D

[@capcom23]

watsyurdeal Well the newer games even at 1080P can use above 3.7VRAM already. Imagine trying to play maxed out on a 4K monitor. You will need a horse power GPU for that one

[@naomiwashinton8102]

+DARTH VIRAL I've been at 1080p for the past eight years. It's not that bad so long as you're never exposed to anything else...

[@naomiwashinton8102]

DARTH VIRAL My thoughts too. I can’t quite miss what I've never experienced and I’m thankful for not appreciating how behind the times I am. I do plan to do that as soon as the Acer XB271HK and Asus PG27AQ screens are released and reviewed, though. I've put back enough money to buy two 980TIs to finish upgrading my system into something that will hopefully last me just as long. The only thing I have left is to decide 2k/144hz or UHD at 60 - 70hz. I have no way of knowing what my preference would be..and unfortunate side effect of never being exposed to either of them.

[@THEisaacG]

Naomi Washinton Hey, just so you know, a single GTX 980TI will be good enough to drive any game at 1440p 75Hz. I'd just go with that until games require more... then just sell the 980TI and buy whatever is equivalent to 980 TI sli for half the cost.

[@santclause1]

+watsyurdeal Totally agree. my m8 was like you can't see more than 60fps anyway. So he comes round and plays warthunder at max setting on my 144hz benq at 100-140fps. he was like holy fuck it,s so smooth and clear. now he hates his 60hz but hasn't got the machine for 144hz. my other m8 thinks because his TV is 4k and his xbox is plugged in he's playing at 4k lol.

[@TheRyanl164]

Your videos always entertain me. Keep up the good work. :)

[@FirstMomentsOf]

Great video, I, myself, got a MSI GTX 960 4G, I don't have a 4k display but boy does it run the latest games fine on 1080p and high.

[@Isaac-pb9iw]

little did he know

[@svenyproud]

I don't understand this whole resolution war... fps is sooooo much more important!! 1080p 144Hz/fps is still master race!!

[@benjaminjones8782]

fuck you

[@Panty-pe7kp]

Great testvideo!

[@DavidBennell]

I have been running my Acer 4k Gsync monitor and since I only have a 680GTX OC 4GB, I have the same issue of low fps in 4k in a lot of games, but the G-sync works wonders, makes it feel smoother than you expect when your fps is bouncing between 50-80 fps I couldn't tell. it all felt smooth, with no tearing or lag.

[@mint3]

1440p is the sweet spot. All you need is a 970. Not an extremely high end card.

[@Jmjks97]

+Mint Try playing arma 3. i get 50-60 fps with 980.

[@OGPatriot03]

+Mint Yea no., 100 FPS max maybe but not average. I get what you're saying, the 970 runs 1440p well, 290x does it even better. The 2 cards can play 2K very well (When i upgraded my monitor, I was surprised at how well my 290x run 2K, now I'm using 2 FuryXs though)

[@mitcHELLOworld]

+Mint lol youre so full of shit. Get a grip dude. seriously.

[@Jmjks97]

Mitchell Hall Actually he should be able to play those games on high/ultra with a 970 not sure about fallout 4 but the others could easily do it.

[@mitcHELLOworld]

Empty aryan no. He shouldn't. You're not playing new AAA games in 1440/100 fps with a 970. Sorry. Lol fuck man people opinions don't factor into this shit. These are facts.

[@QuissProductions]

I've been playing CS:GO for about 8 months now and I am MGE. I play on my laptop and I am only able to get about 80 FPS (100 max). Will this hold me back from being able to rank up furthermore and make my way into the higher ranks?

[@ShunGoukuSatsu1]

2kliksphilip FPS has ALWAYS been an issue for me. My pc is literally 9 years old and I'm still using it to play games like tf2 and cs:go etc.... My fps is literally no more than 30 in csgo and in tf2 (even with an extremely low quality config) it's 60ish. This is why some cs:go maps are unplayable for me because I'm gettting 15 fps and it's really jittery like cobblestone and the new "log" map. However I'm playing perfectly fine with 30. Will getting that higher fps mean that I'm going to get noticeably better?

[@havenbrush7100]

I have been holding strong at DMG/MGE with 40-50 fps XD You can get higher don't worry.

[@imantsliepins8664]

BuPh GoukuSatsu well, lets think. I was playing average level the hole time in my gold nova master with 40 fps. Then idk why and how i got ~100 fps and just carried every game. I even have a screenshot of haveing first place in 8 games in a row. So id say more fps help quite a lot.

[@YeOleBaz]

***** Ive met globals with potatoes worse than the crossbox360. All i can say is keep at it!

[@noyes6520]

BuPh GoukuSatsu Yes, the difference between 30 fps and 60 fps is about 6 ranks of skill

[@afkninja719]

I'm thinking of getting a 4k monitor I've got a 970 8gb of. Ram and a 3.7intel processer do you think I'll be able to run some games

[@clementkirton]

also just wanted to stay really like your review/thoughts on 4k since i got a 21:9 i was thinking if it would be nice since i play a 2560x1080. and your one of the first that said that mostly you don't see the big difference between 4k and HD. normally people just say it looks amazing.

[@dankydankdocthemurmeow4028]

i laugh so hard on people who talk shit about you philip because you dont have a "good enough" pc to play 4k games on xD nice and educational video! keep up the good work and people he is just showing those who dont have a 4k gaming rig what to expect if they want to switch to 4k and if it worth to invest into 4k gaming i personaly think gaming beyond 2k is useless it is useful for video editing but for gaming? you need performance not quality(for most games atleast) i mean realy who the heck wants to play sims 4 in 4k?

[@dankydankdocthemurmeow4028]

+The Brony MurDoc im waiting for the shitstorm to come since i know people will flip over my comment

[@MarkOrrb10]

+The Brony MurDoc srsly dude fuck off, im 12 years old and I can get everything what I want from my parents and Im still think that 4K is important for CS:GO to reach global elite. stfu please

[@dankydankdocthemurmeow4028]

oh boy here it is already

[@blunderinghooligan]

+MarkOrrb10 spoilt piece of shit award goes to they guy who has no fucking idea. ?The funny part is i could destroy you at 1280x720/30fps. I destroy all my mates who run 1440p/120hz at 1280x720/30. It means nothing.

[@Slipknt]

+MarkOrrb10 You have no idea kid. You'll learn when you're older. Probably when you get to 18.

[@MNGN101]

So who made you wear the Twilight shirt?

[@free2play470]

VeXXsie

[@GTgameplayTime]

I have a gtx 970 and full HD monitor, and graphics can be in 2715x1527. Will I get a better picture when recording with Shadowplay in full hd resolution or this 27151527 when I download video to KZbin ??

[@RaaynML]

4K made a HUGE difference for me personally, I noticed the difference near-immediately (as soon as I launched a game or program) and it made me seriously consider getting a 4K monitor for my PC.

[@sylvsyntax]

This is weird looking back on…

[@Supcharged]

can my intel hd 3000 handle it

[@qwemlhjsi4386]

Supcharged nice bait mate

[@vapecatgaming476]

Qwem Lhjsi wooooosh

[@modernshinigamimanga]

Very informative and surprising video It really gave me some food for thought seeing I've been thinking of 1440p.

[@dstouvenel]

I remember upgrading to an HD TV back when i played on a X-box 360. I went from not being able to read the text in Oblivion to being able to read the text it was amazing. I'm now a PC gamer but still in HD.

[@AlluringPegasu13]

And now 3090 can run games in 8k lol

[@NitroCorn]

1:40 watch the mouse cursor.. and when his click on her nose.. think ''Squishy squishy squishy'' really fast. i am in tears hahahaha.. geez i'm immature. =)

[@stevie8271]

-good, i'm not the only one-

[@LmacaraFTW]

I love your voice and your videos, gj man

[@svenschukat2958]

Hy I want to buy a new Monitor. from what 2kliksphilip said 4k does not sound very nice. So i may just get a G-Sync screen with ips and 144htz? What do you guys think??

[@TheDarkstar826]

1080p is the the sweet spot. I will get a 4k monitor when I see graphic card pushing 144fps.lol THats it. Right now. It's clear enough. I dont think I will see 4k being use in 5 to 7 years.

[@justinfung4351]

+TheDarkstar826 The sweet spot is 1440p, not 1080p.

[@rusty9365]

+TheDarkstar826 Well... on a single monitor u can already get more than 100 fps in 4k, with titan Z, not to mention sli, but it is expensive as fuck.

[@TheDarkstar826]

atzin guru See, That's why there is no need for it. lol

[@thybigballs]

+TheDarkstar826 The new GPU's coming out in 2016 won't be enough to make 4K a reasonable choice?

[@TheDarkstar826]

thybigballs Nah... I think will stick to my 1080p monitor because I could see good enough. Lets say if the game require to see long distance, Draw distance increase, or games that require to see your surround more. Than I will get. Right now, I don't see alot of games using alot of draw distance when things pops out of no where like GTA5. Plus, The new Gpu that you are saying. That's good news for VR. With all that performance to push 4k. It help to run ouclus Rift perfect at 1080p.

[@mad_scientist5597]

1024x768 masterrace

[@qwemlhjsi4386]

Mad_Scientist pffft pleb, 800x600 masterrace

[@melinoe3783]

Andrew Qiu pffft double pleb, 640x480 master race

[@kerim149]

pfft mate, 640x400 masterrace

[@jannowak9639]

Only VGA Mode 13h (320x200, kids!) IS TRUE MASTERRACE, CAUSE DooM RUNS IN THIS RESOLUTION!

[@judef]

na u boys havent experienced the true 144x81 experience

[@Luckydeath973]

0:33 , look closely at the trees , the lighest trees near the water in the middle of the image , this line of tree that expand all the way to the left side of the image becomes much more clear than the HD picture , more details are able to be seen even if the difference is minimal , there is one . ( The trees on the far right kinda do this a bit but when it changes to HD and back to 4K for some reason my eyes are like " but wait ? isn't it the same thing ? "

[@EthanAnthony907]

I am about to thumbs up, subscribe and favorite like 10 of your videos because you just included operation flashpoint, the game that started it all, on this video.

[@linel2130]

just letting you know that the timestamp for gta is incorrect, it starts at 6:53, not 6:35

[@adds-kz3oc]

You sound like Andy from outsidexbox.

[@GammaTheBanana]

@@strawberrysoup1 Why are they cancer? What can they improve?

[@beermandan420]

I've got a 4K rig with the capability to run games at 4k with no MSAA, VERY respectable FPS, ultra settings and I'm SUPER happy with it. I prefer resolution over refresh rates all day. I dont play CS:GO though I do play FPS games and sit at about 75FPS in BF4 with the previously mentioned setting.

[@VulpineNebine]

The thing about 4k is that AA becomes less important, because the jaggies are less apparent. Higher pixel density means that less of them are sticking out so much on a curved surface, etc.

[@voggo]

1:37 what theee fuck ? twilight ? really dude ?

[@NexusXP]

4k is still not a standard resolution.

[@maximusretardious4597]

are graphics cards just not ready for 4K yet without having to 3 way sli gtx 980ti's? I just cant play on anything that runs under 60fps so I just stick with 1080p with max settings

[@1337likethat]

Great video. Very well done and thanks for sharing. Im surprise at how you could even play at those settings with a 970

[@olemartin2556]

can my 570 run 4k

[@andreisava1691]

no bro

[@olemartin2556]

XpertAndy it was a joke lol

[@andreisava1691]

xD

[@janisir4529]

Minesweeper maybe.

[@olemartin2556]

Jani SIr xD

[@robinrai4973]

4k at 100fps? I'm still at 20fps at 1366x768..

[@geoneo4453]

and thats why i play on 800x600 mostly,,,,,,or 640x480 if needed

[@liby5958]

i am at 10 fps with 640x480 ;(

[@PolarbearYGT]

this was really really helpful actually

[@rayrives7]

love your vids! keep it up!

[@KanaalMTS]

Am I the only person who plays CSGO on 640x480?

[@kerim149]

Nope. :( and I still have low fps

[@kyleayy]

Kehrim Same.

[@KanaalMTS]

WAR X ILUSION At least I have 500-600 fps lmao.

[@Ignodeus]

500-600 fps that u cant see and can cause tearing :)

[@KanaalMTS]

Ignodeus Screen tearing doesn't occur frequently. The reason i play at high fps is because my keyboard and mouse polling rate is at 1000MHz and it updates every frame

[@jkerman5113]

"It's disappointing to see Valve games run at less then 100 fps" oh poor baby

[@dennismolina2339]

I have and i7, a gtx 680, a R9 200 series overclocked and 16gb ram. Will i be able to run games in 60 fps with 4k?

[@Leftbehind47]

Aside from everything else, does anybody know what game he plays at 11:11? It doesn't look like UT3 (which was the game before that, I know), but very interesting.

[@ihave7sacks]

With 2 GTX 980's 4K is worth it xD You cannot go back to FHD

[@mwyes]

+Dex4Sure Or just get both. I would rather play gta v @4k 60hz but play cs at 1440p 144hz

[@CurruptMonkee]

+Dex4Sure Wrong. www.amazon.com/PB279Q-3840x2160-DisplayPort-Ergonomic-Back-lit/dp/B00YWCYKQM

[@ihave7sacks]

Dex4Sure Windows scaling helps with tiny stuff, you'll appreciate the extra space when you get used to it.

[@CurruptMonkee]

+Dex4Sure Yeah 27" is as small as I'd go but you will learn to love how sharp the image is at that ppi.

[@CurruptMonkee]

Dex4Sure Nice man :) And the monitor I linked you is 100,000,000:1 contrast ratio and full 100%srgb so the image will look better. But personal opinion I believe.

[@ianduenckel4023]

Puts a 4k review up in 1080p.....

[@ianduenckel4023]

+Ian Duenckel Also, why not upgrade your gpu, then dive into 4k?

[@ianduenckel4023]

Are you fucking kidding me. He said that in the video. He should have bought a new gpu, then bought a 4k monitor. In short, he's a dumb ass.

[@ianduenckel4023]

+RaveCat3000 You respond quick. :)

[@ianduenckel4023]

+Ian Duenckel most people take a day or two to respond to my comment.

[@ianduenckel4023]

+RaveCat3000 Also, when I said the bit on it not being 4K I was talking about the video. He should have got a new GPU, but I'm beating a dead horse.

[@Cliffan]

Philip, I've been planning to work for these 2 coming months just to save up to a new computer (Gtx 980, Intel i5 etc) Should I wait or should I go for it considering you said it's a bad time to buy a new computer?

[@GloriousKev]

Ive been debating this myself. I want a new monitor but I am not sure if I should go 1440p at 144hz 4k at 60hz or just keep my 1080p at 60 or even going 1440p at 60. While a lot of people in the comments are crying about your gpu I get the general idea which is that the visuals aren't that huge of a difference especially on older titles. I think that will likely be the case for right now as many games simply aren't taking advantage of 4k yet. They simply just support it. I don't have any real issues with 1080p but I would really like a higher refresh rate.

[@prodfife]

you'd appreciate it if you had a card that was designed for 4k... the 670 is a 1080p (maybe even 1440p) card.

[@naomiwashinton8102]

+Damon Llopiz My 680 can pull in 30 -60FPS on the highest settings on newer games, so I have a lot of doubt that a 670 could live at 1440p without a lot of sacrifices.

[@CurruptMonkee]

+Damon Llopiz Lol no. A 1440p card would be a 970. Source games are easy to run.

[@gamer-ff6mh]

nope. 670 cannot max out games at 1080p. you need 970 or 980 for that. 1440p should be 980ti. you can max out games for a while there. and 2 980ti s sli will be for 4k

[@prodfife]

Jaydeep Deshpande you can max out most games at 1080p with a 280 or 960...

[@gamer-ff6mh]

Max out for me means using stuff like NVIDIA hairworks and manage a constant 60 fps. Basically, it should be able to take literally all that you throw and maintain atlas 60 if not higher fps. I remember... I could not maintain stable 60 fps with hairworks at close range when I played Witcher 3 with a single 970. But I think you can maintain almost 60 fps if it is a single 980 instead. But I agree that most games will be maxed out by a single 970 at that resolution. If you have 2 970s you can max out literally everything at 1440p in general, but I found it hard to max out Crysis 3.... So basically, there are exceptions. In general I would say single 970/980 is best for 1080p, 2 970s or one 980ti is best for 1440p and 2 980ti's is absolutely needed for 2160p...IMHO...

[@glitchsmasher]

CONSOLES HD HAHAHAHAHAHA GOOD ONE

[@omlas4404]

+glitchsmasher Next gen consoles can play in hd my ignorant friend.

[@foufoufun]

+glitchsmasher Lol, the previous gen had more HD than this one.

[@Rukeith74]

+Omlás Sometimes.

[@glitchsmasher]

***** 720p is HD. 1080p is Full HD.

[@omlas4404]

***** Only that they are capable of 1080 as well lol

[@Kota317]

anyone know a monitor that is 120hz 27in and ips or has good color for adobe?

[@ComicBros9519]

Can i forkay gt21 0? I lpay on csgo at 4 f p s?

[@corktail7900]

ok so from what i understand 4k is nearly useless when it comes to gaming, but is an investment when you need extra work space

[@Tropicocitwo]

Jesus christ. The moment I heard "here you can see gaming benchmarks for my Geforce 670" I paused and had to go to the comments LOL. I wouldn't even take on 4K with my 970, which is effectively twice the 670's speed, you're insane XD

+Tropicocity I just bought a 4k monitor with my 970 ftw, and it really depends on the game. Mad Max can run on ultra perfectly at 4k, and I've been seeing MGSV is the same. Most games were never made with 4k in mind though. TW3 is definitely one of them...

[@Tropicocitwo]

+Wendell Radford Oh there's definitely games you'll be able to push with a single 970, but usually I prefer to be in a situation where I can handle the Majority of new games at a given res - I definitely wouldn't be able to maintain 60fps on more than half the games that I play these days, so until 4K becomes affordable I'm trying to steer clear :)

[@voluntarism335]

+Tropicocity I agree, I wouldn't even take my g1 gtx 980 ti on 4k witch is basically 2 gtx 970's on 4k

AssassainFlank GROWNPC I would've thought a 980 ti would be generally ok at 4k?

[@voluntarism335]

Wendell Radford well, the thing is you would still be lowering settings on games at 4k with a 980 ti and getting 40-50 fps just shows the card is struggling at that res, I would recommend at least 2 980 ti's for 4k gaming

[@JoeGameVideos]

i has 300-450 fps on my laptop gtx770m 3gb gddr5 16gb ram on csgo is that any good?

[@bhiden6460]

Now, I play csgo at 1680x1050 since that's my monitors native res, but farther-away models look blurry to me. I have to play on all low settings except effect detail, so what settings make things more distinct even when further away from them. I think contrast may play a big role, and possibly anti-aliasing and anisotrpic filtering... so basically everything. Does changing all of the graphics settings to high make things more clear or would a higher-res monitor do something like that. On the pictures of the mountains and such, it seemed like the further trees looked much clearer in 4k than the they did in hd...

[@xnabber]

dayuum whos that girl phillip?

[@something427]

***** vexxxsie

[@Red_wine]

***** Forget Vexxxsie why is he wearing a fucking twilight t-shirt?

[@blackopsy9]

You're using a 670 for 4k? Stopped watching there, let me know if he does other stupid shit.

[@blackopsy9]

2kliksphilip There is no reason to even attempt gaming at 4k with a 670. I get that it is not the purpose of this video but you can clearly tell the difference between 4k and 1080p unless of course you have impaired vision.

[@blackopsy9]

2kliksphilip I have no idea how to even go about the video making process. Its not my thing. I do however possess 3 monitors. I have my monitors in a functional collage of sorts. I have a 4k monitor that I use mainly for gaming, a 1440p Korean IPS I use to surf the web mounted above my 4k and a 1080p IPS directly to my right for Foobar2k and other non-internet related productivity/fun. I would say I have a fairly wide spectrum of monitors at my disposal to make a comparison. The difference is simply night and day. To say there is no difference is simply... well... arrogant to say the very least. It is comparable to people who say the human eye cannot see past 28fps to make console peasants feel better. Its just a flat out lie. The only concession I can make is using a 4k monitor at present is both stressful on your hardware as well as your wallet. There is also an issue with non-hardware related aesthetics due to the limited amount of monitors on the market period. TL;DR People who say they can't tell the difference between 4k and other resolutions are just as bad as people who say they cannot tell the difference between 28fps and 60fps+.

[@blackopsy9]

2kliksphilip You certainly are entitled to your opinion. But if you were to take one thing away from this, take this: Please don't game 4k on a 670, its a crime.

[@Dr.Kananga]

BlackXero X Still waiting on that video...

[@blackopsy9]

i742 Excuse you? Yeah, try that creator vs. critic argument, we all know how that goes. Oh, you don't know? You don't have to create something to critique something. An art critic has most likely never lifted a brush in his life yet has a deep, in depth knowledge of both how art is made and what makes art, art... The same applies to movie critics and just about any type of critic imaginable. Now while you try to use all two brain cells to figure that one out, I'll be on my 4k monitor, enjoying it. P.S. You can tell the difference.

[@jank9502]

How do you not fet youtlr 60hz screen teering at 250fps in CS:GO ?

[@formfollowsfunction8365]

In the next month or so I'll be getting the new Acer Predator X34 running 2x SLI 980Ti's. Once I get this setup I'll report back here to confirm your analysis of HD & 4k. Based on the research I've done, most reviewers say if you have the proper 4k monitor and running SLI, it is well worth the investment but this is all subjective. I need to try it for myself to really know. Furthermore there are several games coming out within the next couple of months that will support 4k such as Metal Gear, Rise of Tomb Raider, CoD, and the much anticipated Doom 4 in the Spring. The real extra cost to obtaining this luxury is the second video card. If your not able or willing to run SLI then I totally agree that consumers should just stay with HD.

[@X3nonEyez]

Using a 670 for 4K, fucking lol

[@X3nonEyez]

2kliksphilip SLI G1 980ti is really the only way to get the best 4K experience for all games atm

[@Tappettava]

+TragicGreek I am still running 980 Ti SLI in 1440p and can confirm that it would not be enough for 4k. You would have to drop a lot of quality settings to keep stable 60 fps, but low resolution meshes look still low resolution in 4k. Or then you can enjoy a cinematic 30 fps. Don't know about the new 1080 Ti's but for Maxwell 4k was too much to handle.

[@ppurpleduck]

“Running new games at 4K at unplayable frame rates” *Laughs in GTX 3080*

[@TheBlindGovernator]

GTX lol

[@ppurpleduck]

@@TheBlindGovernator whoops

[@UnstoppableGamers3]

Excellent video!

[@CarbonInstinct0]

good review man.

[@Pan_Z]

Turn off AA at higher res. You stop needing it Edit: As much AA. I've noticed you need significantly less. 2x MSAA providing nearly ideal coverage. I would avoid post-processing though, unless one desires a 4k image smeared with vaseline.

[@wyattbakke264]

why do people care about getting 200 fps when a 60hz monitor won't even tell the difference between 1,000 fps and 85?

[@wyattbakke264]

Super Kawaii Kitty It's really not that complicated. If you have a 30Hz monitor your FPS is capped looking like 30 FPS, even if you get 400 fps.

[@wyattbakke264]

Super Kawaii Kitty the higher framerate is just guaranteed a smooth gameplay experience, though if you are getting a steady 90 fps vs a steady 300 fps it will be the same on a 60 hz monitor.

[@HaloMG]

+Weega .........i wish i had time but i am too lazy too explain you why you are wrong

[@wyattbakke264]

+zarif player i'm right

[@tylerboy565]

+Weega 60hz monitors can tell the difference. They're just not meant to go above 60fps, and thus massive screen tearing occurs until vsync is on.

[@RokonGaming]

I think I'll wait for 4K to be the standard before I upgrade from my 1080p monitor. I'm pretty satisfied with what I have right now.

[@650yoghurt]

I've actually used a 4k monitor for the past half year or so, and it's actually not that bad to game with. It's 60 hz so it's not that bad. I mostly enjoy it because it's awesome when it comes to photoshopping, mapping and other software. I have a gtx 770 card so in some games like csgo i can't really play in 4k without getting the more unresponsive feel when i play. So what i usually do is just play it in 1440p so i still get some more pixels and some of that high framerate :) It works quite well in my opinion.