✈ [4K] TRIPREPORT | KLM Cityhopper | Embrear E190 | Brussels - Amsterdam | Business Class

[@Lucaser2424]

finally a video! of this route...

[@yagi3925]

On this absurd and irresponsible 100 mile flight, which should have been stopped permanently for ages.

[@NLAviation]

There is no good alternative yet, yes there is a train but it is expensive and often does not connect with other flights. In addition, there are many other countries that also operate many domestic flights of less than 100 miles. In addition, I have a next flight from Schiphol, my flight is BRU - AMS - AUA

[@yagi3925]

@@NLAviation Wrong. The train trip is inexpensive if you take the IC Benelux service rather than the Eurostar. The IC Benelux is based on a flat rate (unlike the Eurostar, based on a yield management fare system), you can jump on any departing train without a need for a seat reservation, it’s 100% flexible - and for just a fraction of the price of the Eurostar. Moreover, the IC Benelux connects perfectly with the flights, as it runs every hour. In short, there is no excuse to keep this irresponsible flight.

[@NLAviation]

@@yagi3925 That only works if I had booked a separate ticket. However, my flight includes a stopover in Amsterdam. My flight is BRU - AMS - AUA in one ticket. So a flight from Brussels to Amsterdam is also included. You can also book (partial) train trips via KLM, but in this case that was not a cheaper option. In addition, respect how everyone wants to travel.

[@patrickantwerp1364]

prima verslag

[@NLAviation]

Bedankt!

[@sintjagolwicianolwindomar6911]

Hi are you flight KLM E190 plane to Amsterdam

[@sy_aviation]

Nice video!

[@NLAviation]

Thank you!

[@rubenhemminga]

Real question. Who wants to fligh this route? I bet the Eurostar is faster

[@NLAviation]

Eurostar is not always faster, is often much more expensive and often does not connect well with subsequent flights. That is why this flight is still very popular and often fully booked.

[@yagi3925]

@@NLAviation No, this route is totally irresponsible and the Benelux parliament has requested its permanent removal. On top of the Eurostar, there is an IC service every hour between the two capitals, with stops at their respective airports, and the ticket prices on those IC trains is a flat rate, so by no way expensive.

[@rubenhemminga]

@@NLAviation Ik snap zeker wat je zegt hoor. Zelf afgelopen week met de Eurostar naar Parijs geweest vanaf Rotterdam. 3u deur tot deur. Ookal ik van vliegen houd zie ik tussen Rotterdam/Amsterdam naar Brussel en Parijs echt geen nut om te vliegen.

[@random8539]

It shouldn’t exist but the reason it does is pricing. The ticket is cheaper when connecting through Amsterdam because it’s a less desirable connecting flight and competing with the Zaventem prices (a 1 stop flight through Amsterdam needs to be cheaper than a direct flight). When you transfer in Amsterdam the travel/securtity/check-in time etc is less relevant since you would need to go through it anyway in Schiphol.

[@DdW85]

​@random8539 if the same route exists at all from Brussels. Schiphol offers many more destinations. Chances are that if you need to travel from Brussels to Cape Town, South Africa, Stavanger, Norway or Cartagena, Colombia for example, KLM connecting in Schiphol is the best option for you. I bet the Cityhopper is full of people with connecting flights, either because it is cheap or because it is the only feasible option. Traveling from Brussels to Amsterdam is only faster or cheaper at those specific flight times, and if your origin and destination are close to Zaventem and Schiphol. If you need to go from city centre to city centre, this flight doesn't make much sense.

[@nilshendriks72]

Any attempt to make aviation more sustainable is worthless with routes like this: BRU-AMS

[@NLAviation]

Of course you may disagree about this route, but unfortunately there is no good alternative available yet. The train is often expensive and does not connect with other flights. Aviation is also busy becoming more sustainable. You are free to make your own choice as to which means of transport you choose, and respect others in their choice.

[@yagi3925]

@@NLAviation No, this air route is totally irresponsible and the Benelux parliament has requested its permanent removal. On top of the Eurostar, there is an IC service every hour between the two capitals, with stops at their respective airports, and the ticket prices on those IC trains is a flat rate, so by no way expensive.

[@hbieshe]

@@yagi3925 agreed, even though I am a aviation fan and love to fly, , routes like this should seriously be reconsidered by any airline.

[@yagi3925]

@@hbieshe Well said. Actually, there have been growing calls for several years, including from several Benelux authorities, for this route to be permanently stopped, but KLM is still resisting: www.tijd.be/dossier/europareeks/nederlands-parlement-wil-einde-aan-vluchten-amsterdam-brussel/10104430.html

[@xaverlustig3581]

​@@yagi3925"Totally irresponsible" is strong wording. Aviation isn't evil.