4th gen self made vs debut popular groups..

[@Fallin_summer03]

Skz and gidle songs are a boom boom chk chk boom

[@marshallteach9006]

There's no such thing as "self made" when you have a whole company supporting you.

[@HuaPatt]

Not always like this. Groups such as BTS, Stray Kids and Idle are truly self-made

[@marshallteach9006]

@@HuaPatt No they're not, there are dozens of people whose jobs are to make these groups successful...

[@в369к]

​@@HuaPattStray Kids debuted in one of the three biggest kpop companies. How can they be "self made", while their debut was hyped up?

[@_Eun_Byeol_]

@user-wv8ot1vx7m 'Self made' in case of stray kids mean the group generated by a member picking rest of the members

[@HuaPatt]

@@в369к Skz members produce most of the songs themselves, so they achieved popularity themselves. Same with Idle and BTS. Also, their companies were not particularly rich. I don’t know about Jyp, but from the early skz mv you can understand that they had no money for something like the current mv. More than 50% of the popularity of these groups comes from themselves, so they are self-made