4th order or 6th order

[@Countryboy8270]

Join me with the 12 12's 🤣 in the jeep. I got that 4th order with the 12 sundown U 12's and I peak at 29hz and it does a 163 on the glass at 28-29hz. It's not 20hz and below but it'll still rip your hat off lol.

[@JerryAintloud]

That was a beast demo For sure

[@Chris-B-Bassin]

What ratio?

[@Countryboy8270]

@@Chris-B-Bassin 2:1 ratio

[@hughjass545]

Hey, I’m a new subscriber. I found your channel searching for test tones relating to DB level. I like what you’re doing, I like the talks about gear, and setups. As a person who’s teaching myself, it really helps to hear guys with experience just talk about it. Keep sharing, and thank you.

[@tristendupuis9941]

Pulling a vacuum is mainly to pull moisture out of the system and make sure it holds it so you don't end up leaking your freon out

[@doylesmith8678]

You really don't want moisture in the system though as I've been told it can turn into an acidic environment... cheaper to just pull a vacuum to remove moisture vs roll the dice and it crap out on ya 2-3yrs down the road. I generally change all the orings when I work on them.. o rings are cheap.. I'd rather only have to do the job once. I diy all my own..but I've got experience (jack of all trades). Now, this new crap.. the 1234ysomething something.. more expensive, and more fittings to buy to adapt.. blahhhh.. Did one of those repairs already too.. rock hit to evap on a civic.. bad design grill. Oh, and fyi... it's refrigerant... lol 😆 It's like saying I drive a "ford" when I drive chevy.. freon is a brand name. Refrigerant covers all.. 😉

[@devlinturriff4736]

6th order looks great always

[@marioarizola4921]

I love my (4)15” 4th order in my XJ. Gets painful sealed up. Gets windy opened up. Hair tricks with both doors open.

[@MrVuetim92]

I’m personally a 6th order person however I’m going with stereo integrity ht 18s doing 12 in a 4th order

[@GTILOUD]

Why the 4th over a proper series tuned 6th

[@murrayshekelberg9754]

You read my mind. I was just kicking around the idea of doing a 4th order or 6th order a while ago. Never tried my hand at either but the 6th definitely calls out to me more but the 4th order seems like a "safer" build as far as getting the tuning properly without much tweaking. My extended cab Canyon will have to be a 4th order or, more likely, just a ported box because of the size but I have a 2000 Explorer that just sort of sits outside. I crank it and take it out from time to time and seems like a great victim for a build

[@rcrhino2148]

Up to you man. Only way to find out is to try it out. I have built a 6th order box for 15 inch massive audio hippo xlr and that thing got stupid windy. Was basically a blower. I am yet to try out 4th order but my plan is to get 2 deaf bonce 3012r in a 120~ litre enclosure and tune it with a peak of 30hz and play up to 70-80hz. It does seem like there is more tuning opportunities with a 4th order plus smaller build and potentially louder. But definitely won't play low or low low. I think 30hz is where 4ths shine. I like your videos. I'm a recent viewer in Australia! Very nice build you have there.

[@chrisdep11]

My recommendation is to keep the 6th and switch the subs to the DB drive subs. From what I've gathered, you prefer the lows below 20hz a lot. I wouldnt sacrifice that but I would say larger subs and row the amps stacked in the back to add 2 more amps. 6 DS18 hooligan KO 8ks on 6 DB drive subs would be stupid nasty, the amp rack would be a hell of a tight fit but I can see how to make it work if you'd like my idea on that let me know

[@JerryAintloud]

i do love the lows, and the DB drive subs

[@chrisdep11]

@@JerryAintloud indeed so, keep the enclosure, you just built it and it's dialed in. Now is the time to improve motor force and power capabilities. 6 amps running @ 1ohm each on an 8k hooligan, amps wouldn't need fans anymore, better efficiency and more motor force on subwoofers with a better TS parameters for the particular application you're wanting. The Gynesis G2s are badass subs don't get me wrong but the TS parameters on that DB would get you knocking the doors off the vehicle next to you with 6 of them damn DB drives in there!

[@skatebunch3084]

4th , more cone control as well 😊😊😊

[@doylesmith8678]

Coming from a 6th order with 4 bdc4 12"s (built two separate ported boxes, then kinda threw em together to blow through my cab- from the low 20's to the 40's.. it was windy with 6k. Same amps, different ohm load to get me 4k for 4 15"s (Rockville K6V2's ) in a 4th order (yet again something I threw together.. I'm old school) . This hits from the 20's (not as violent as the 12"s 6th vs 4th), but high 20s into the high 30's pounds hard.. the 6th orders get a whoosh per say without building pressure like the 4th orders.. they don't get a whoosh...they get a beat down. My passenger door handle (while it's there..won't be soon), looks like it's gonna open itself. Nasty enough on 4k (amps are 2 Rockville dbcomp4's strapped at 4ohms- amps are rated 2krms at 2ohms -3k at 1ohm)

[@Chris-B-Bassin]

I definitely want to try a 4th for more bandwidth

[@codylee5466]

6th order has a broader bandwidth

[@doylesmith8678]

I'm not sure of bandwidth, but 4th packs more of a punch due to sealed enclosures. My bandwidth is from the 20's to into 40's-50's.. perfect for my music. The 6th I made was windier, but not as much oomph in the punch dept, like the 4th. The 4th is still nasty though. I didn't build to a design, just my own.. (I'd rebuild if needed.. but don't need to I feel)

[@Chris-B-Bassin]

@Cody Lee I'm in a hatchback not sure I can fit a 6th without doing something extreme

[@stormyyoung6344]

Have a good weekend jerry and all humans and do something nice for someone once in a while bassss on.

[@thomasdavis2034]

Like your Chanel, im bringing my s10 truck out June 22 for STC 24 WITH 4 18S IN A 4TH

[@DibeezyTheGifted]

Sundown tooled platform drivers are the absolute best 4th order subs out there. My 6-18's 4th does 162's on 8700 watts clamped. 57's @ 22hz. I wonder how much louder it's going to get when I get more power to fight this 6x rise lol. If you use Genesis G2 subs in a fourth it's going to start falling off hard around 25 Hertz. That's just the nature of the fourth order beast. I know for a fact you aren't going to swap subs or you might want to rethink a fourth. This coming from a builder and designer who's absolutely pro 4th order

[@dre_day_]

I seen Steve Meade did a dyno on the Hooligan 5k...its awesome💯

[@cristovalmontoya5222]

He did what’s the link to the video is it on Steve’s smd channel? I own the ko 5k be interesting to watch

[@dre_day_]

@@cristovalmontoya5222 it was a short video

[@bassjunkie2020]

I have 4th order and its windy But I only have limited room is only reason. I've never had a 6th order. But I know they windy if done right. I got a demo from you a few yrs ago. And it was windy! But Drew will definitely know what to do 👍😎💯💨💨💨

[@Randy_G]

What is your 4th order tuned to?

[@shaunoutndastix8022]

I'm gathering up for a build..wanting 4th order..98 durango build 3rd row delete cpillar build..4 15s..any box suggestions..could really use info..I have 4 zvx 15s on 2 smart bass 5k..

[@holeshotinspectionllc2412]

I have a 2002 durango with a 4th 4 Crossfire xt3 18's 2:1 ratio 162 db+ 135ah c-max, Crossfire 16k at .5ohm🤙

[@crazy-hobbies2291]

If Drew Jones don’t design it I want Build it

[@hackmunch3949]

if you have the room, a 6th order is the way. also todays drivers thrive well in 6th over 4th orders.

[@prometheusjae6532]

Just know you have supporters in NYC , different walks of life , different cultures, but i never missed a vid of ur brotha

[@sethgt1234]

Pulling a vacuum on your A/C system is to get all of the moisture out of the system. So it's definitely worth having it done. You should leave it in vacuum for at least 20 minutes to make sure all moisture is out of the system. Please do so. 👍I love watching your videos. Keep up the good work.

[@ChaosTherapy719]

I just got done with a dual 12 4th order to single 12 6th order conversion and it's so nasty!!

[@HardKnocks160s]

An 8-15s 4th order on good power sheesh imagine playing 24hz-39+hz with authority blowing Hella wind putting up big numbers while demoing that's would be a real loud musical build

[@74midwestbass74]

Either way it's going to be loud

[@BigdeesulOfficial]

Dude you just got this build finished I'd say leave it alone and enjoy it. Build the black Jeep. If it's not gonna be windy and low isn't that what you like the most?

[@JerryAintloud]

yes

[@StevenPaul001]

If you vac the system do a new drier too

[@mrslam49]

I agree replace the drier. Will be makin ice cubes after that!

[@donchez7512]

sometime down the line...lanyards?

[@amalanimataele9794]

Loose the wind and gain more SPL scores

[@z1berzerker]

If it were me... Jerry I would leave it alone. If I talk about 6th order's... I refer people to your channel for clarity. You have grown immensely since the Parker intro video 📹. Jingaling is a small suv beast 🎶🎶

[@dankdaily5134]

6th order all day. Loosing all the wind and volume at 20hz sounds bad.

[@patrickbennett439]

I say you give me a 6th order system in my vehicle so that way I will be able to tell you or demo it for you so you will know if its better and then you can decide if you rather keep the one you already have in your vehicle or not. Just trying to help out. 😄

[@dead6last]

plug your ports try it out that way?

[@gavinmcclure8047]

I'll be down for a black trucker hat

[@JerryAintloud]

added them last night

[@garypoole5841]

4th??? That could be interesting,but i think you will miss them low,lows.

[@doylesmith8678]

I agree about the low lows..but my 4th still does well in the 20's, plus I have a harder "pound" across the range (26 is about where it starts getting harder and nasty, up to high 40's before it starts falling) My 6th was 4 quadstack 12"s, My 4th - 4 Rockville k6 15"s 2ohm coils as I have 2 more in another car I "could" use if i wanted 6). Same Rockville dbcomp4's but running different ohm loads from the 12/15.. They ran 2ohm strapped on the 12"s, 4ohm strapped on the 15"s Amps do 3122,3124 at 1 ohm and 2003,2004 at 2 ohms each. 6k vs 4k, vs more cone area.

[@bryanmeier272xp8]

is it was me id stay 6th order iv seen alot of people with 4th orders and they tare them out to do a 6th order wy dont you try a 4th order in the black jeep i have a feeling tho if you have a 4th and a 6th you will be listening to the 6th way more

[@Husky_Shane_BassHead]

Do a 6.5 order. Do a front baffle with 3 15s. That would give you a total of 9

[@nathanjames4242]

What kind of time alignment are you using to get a clear front stage? Which DSP are you using?

[@charliefrancis6438]

Go 6th , I just too out my 12-15 4th in favor of a 6th I got way more bass under 40hz 10 db increase at 25hz from 4th to 6th and didn’t loose anything above 40hz you just have to tune the rear box to half the frequency of your 4th front chamber

[@jermainephillips5179]

Cant really say one over the other.if built properly both will get stupid loud.ive seen 4ths with too small a sealed chamber and are 1 note wonders because people worry about sealed to ported ratios.neither 1 is ideal for sound quality purists but i think 4ths can be decent imo..

[@doylesmith8678]

The 4th I'm running now is just well, more of trying to fit the cuft through my blow thru. I experiment, but I'm old school. 4 rockville k6 15"s in 3 cuft sealed each, in a 36"x36"x 17" ( the 17" might not be right, but close), as I wanted the subs in a "tighter" ported side..I really could have dropped that 17" to 13" or so (amp/s inside port as well- single cab life), but it's nasty.. I love the "pound" you get from sealed. I got to "play" in high-school..unlimited 4'x4' ( lol..particle board). I don't remember how many boxes I trashed and burned. I never went ported though. I'm good not being as windy, I like the hard pound. Funny fact about that...people tend to get out of my way when driving..kinda "wakes" them.

[@Medicated234]

I need help getting a design n cut sheet can u help point me in the right direction

[@iammoshpotato7793]

rock the mullet again

[@Wildbill74]

Go 4th order and let it rip

[@scum2soul470]

I have 2 15 in an 8th order

[@jimmykingjr5719]

Murder out the black jeep....(as your doing) and do something small in gold on the grill and call it gold mouth. Then you'd have jangalang,can't get rite and gold mouth. 😂

[@JerryAintloud]

daughter named it Julian.. from trailer park boys..

[@bykrdood7]

What kind of vape do you use? I need one to quit smoking.

[@mikebarfield5691]

What are you trying to b loud or low ?

[@rubenavila8012]

I have 3 15s idk what amp to get tho jp63 or taramps smart 8 dual2 skar zvx

[@sendit2873]

old vid but the wind is just a gimmick like something at a fair I would be about loud at that level why put all that in for wind when a fan is cheap I am sure you get what I mean

[@fperez40848]

Was up Jerry

[@rookidenny9157]

4th order🤘🤘

[@jonathanwall2814]

You've done the 6th order why not try a 4th order? It will be something different and at least you will know if it's for you or not I mean most guys that are into as much as you are change their setups pretty often so might as well give it a try. Plus I think it will be good content for the channel.

[@dre_day_]

#TEAMAINTLOUD🤘🏾🔊🔊🔊🔊

[@avac4312]

4th order it will work

[@flsabvb7578]

Nice 💪

[@charlwalgenbachcharlisto5559]

Make a J. A. L logo bro 🎉

[@JerryAintloud]

done

[@charlwalgenbachcharlisto5559]

@@JerryAintloud with a woofer as background will look sweet

[@puresesh7985]

dont look a day over 30 :)

[@JerryAintloud]

[@brendangardner7639]

6th!!!!!

[@dabeardsmen3621]

I say stay with 6th order sell your subs and get Beefier subs on more powa

[@firstplacelegendgamingmore9800]

People say I dye my beard I'm blonde but my facial hair is dark almost black with a bit of Grey lol pretty strange but thats how I'm built 😊

[@TrunkThunderLithium]

Only way you can get Round the vacuum part is have someone idle around 1500 rpm an take the ac charging hose without the bottle on an flip it to where it gonna discharge anything inside upwards. Lightly discharge until you see freon shoot out. Any air thats not part of the freon comes out first cause its not as dense. Its a.really redneck way an dont breathe in the freon! Bass on!!!!