4WS or DIG???

[@markvasseur961]

Great examples of the differences between the two and how they work.

[@Livlifetaistdeth]

Or both! That was a real master class in driving those rigs. Great stuff.

[@choke666]

YOU WERE DRIVIN SIDEWAYS ON A GODDARN WALL!!! VERY INFORMATIVE & COOL!!!

[@rctrucktalk1149]

Awesome video, thank you for taking the time to set that up very educational in content plus nothing better than seeing the trucks actual perform side by side. 👍

[@bryancota5365]

Couldnt have said it better myself guys, thanks for the detailed comparison between the 2 trucks Joe!

[@jdsrcs8061]

We took my daughter's Capra that she build for the first time this weekend, we forgot it has dig. Dorks!!!🤣🤣🤣 Great vid brother.

[@capracoins4317]

That’s awesome me and my three year old son had a gen8 I have a Capra and trx4 great fun and bonding

[@traviselliott3042]

You are very skilled in driving those rigs! Very good instructions on the differences. Thanks and keep it up!

[@glennjthompson332]

Nice!😀, very skilled and teaching, the crawlers are more competitive now, hopefully 🤔 the trucks can match up for challenges soon.👍🤯🎶🎸🎶🎸🧐

[@MikelangeloPhoto]

Great demo's ... I've got dig but didn't realize possibilities.. .thank yoU!!

[@ExocagedRC]

it can do more than what I showed, I'm tempted to do a full dig video showing what I can do with it

[@MikelangeloPhoto]

@@ExocagedRC please do! :D

[@dmanalang9037]

Thank you so much for showing the differences, it helped me understand them better.

[@brentlykins7281]

Thanks for the great video on how both options work! I’m new to the crawler scene and trying to learn before building one

[@modzilla74]

Excellent demonstration 👍

[@KTMcaptain]

4 wheel steering helps so much with getting traction. IDK if you wiggle the steering to try and get the front end to bite, but I do a lot and it helps to find the traction for the front end. With 4ws I do the same thing and it makes a huge difference with getting traction for the rear. . Ultimately, 4ws allows the driver to position the front or the rear of the vehicle instead of just the front. If you're worried about servo failure then run something like a triple 7, extremely strong, and run a very strong sprint to center the wheels. If it fails it will try and track strait and the 777 can easily over power it. . I think you should try out the 4ws WITHOUT mix. Currently you have the radio mixing in the rear servo based on the program and what the front wheels are doing. With a GT5 radio you can throw the rear servo on one of the knobs and just steer it yourself. So on the nasty you can feed just a little crab steer to get the truck to hug the rock.

[@shug97]

Superb info Joe. Just about to put 4ws on my Element comp build. Cheers👍

[@yiarkungfu]

Fascinating, well done sir.

[@reggaejunkie8642]

I’m so in love with Mjolnir! Truck is unstoppable

[@rcOhio]

Very informative! I have a 4 wheel steer rig but no dig rigs. It was was very easy to see the benefits and the drawbacks of both in this video. It was kind of clear from the beginning that you are partial to dig however!😉 thanks a lot for sharing!

[@ExocagedRC]

Well 4ws is amazing but more complicated with more failure points.

[@flyingclint589]

This is awesome! Great examples of both! Question: what is the line running down your chassis that goes around a pulley wheel?

[@nathanfox4514]

Great video explaining makes a lot of since seeing it

[@NCmountainsYouTubeChannel]

Looking at the two tires on the two , bought u doing nice!,👍

[@ExocagedRC]

Thanks 👍

[@rcchallenge8626]

Great video really informative and now had me convinced to just use dig on the Wraith

[@pumpkinfury]

This was incredibly helpful!

[@just_inolredneck8319]

Best example ever! I still think the four wheel steering is best.

[@ExocagedRC]

4ws is better in many situations that require more than dig can give

[@bapasrcadventures3619]

Excellent video! Very good teaching video. Thanks

[@Rc-Adventurers]

Course is so cool. How do you determine gate width and how to build obstacles are difficult but are still abled to be navigated?

[@ExocagedRC]

My gates are 13+ to whatever seems right. After driving these vehicles as much as I do I kinda get a feeling about whats doable but also challenging. Sometimes I'll practice a line just to see if its worthy.

[@misterjay7066]

Love your videos do you have a recommendation for a low budget transmitter to use 4ws

[@PopalongRC]

fantastic video ... super informative . really like your style of video. keep up the good work

[@ExocagedRC]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@matthutch5919]

Great informative video THANKS for taking the time to make this video. I am looking for my next crawler & was wondering if to go DIG or rear steer. You have definitely helped with my decision THANKS

[@TWKNG]

Awesome video as always! Excellent driving especially when you jumped Optimus backwards. I was like nice driving then you did that and I was like Wow! Keep in mind all one handed lol! Hope you have a wonderful day!

[@rodolfobarreiro8535]

clear expalnation! By the way, what are your car's bodys? Some old Jeep?

[@ExocagedRC]

jconcepts Creep

[@K3NnY_G]

For sure adding both these to my daily SCX 10 rig eventually. Dig first, 4WS when I can track down another set of portals. xD 7:00 - Quality driving with that rock hop.

[@willgerdesrc3687]

Great video comparison I shared!

[@RC-jt2gx]

Another great video!!! Love these comparison type videos. Your amazing driving too. We learn so much! Thank you!!

[@Scale-Crawler-tamiya-Xray-RC]

I just watched your last video, I find that flat iron works much better on this vehicle. the proline crawlers slide a lot sideways

[@adrianwilliams3521]

Very clever buddy

[@sukarnoahmadahmad3843]

Great information!

[@DeltaKilo77]

I'd really like to see you get a Losi Super Baja Rey 2.0 and see what you do to it.

[@ExocagedRC]

I had the SBR V1 but just wasn't very impressed with it. Now if Losi comes out with an SRR v2 I may have to spend some money on that.

[@Spagyr]

My preferred setup was 4ws and dig using aircraft transmitter for unmixed 4ws and 3 position switch for dig. Not a popular setup. Also I rarely see anyone point out how crazy of a decent you can do on steep downhills with dig. Will easily keep you from rolling down a big hill and you can decend very quickly.

[@michaelramsey82]

I've also been thinking about an unmixed 4WS with an aircraft radio.

[@robertfrancis9439]

Which one do you prefer? I don't have 4WS on my 1/10, but I do on my 1/24. I can understand why people say it's an unfair advantage. I'm speaking strictly about the 1/24 scale here, but the 1/24 dig rigs can't keep up with the 4WS rigs on a timed course. 4WS rigs can be literally minutes faster because like you were pointing out, they have the multiple steering modes to use. Their only real competition is another 4WS rig. I wonder if having both would be good on a 1/24? On your 1/10 though? That thing must be unstoppable!

[@ExocagedRC]

My Mjölnir truck has both 4ws and dig, I use 4ws way more than I use dig on it. But between both of these trucks in a comp I would choose OP3 because for some reason it just handles better.

[@DJGeary]

Very informative sir. Thank you

[@mattrogers8280]

I built servo on axle 4WS for my Gen 8 made a huge difference.

[@roberttoro3589]

It seems as the 4 wheel steering is some what better...Great comparisement...

[@TerraQuestRC]

4WS or Dig, both have benefits and counter but, having driven both. More often than not, the 4WS has been more beneficial for my circumstances. There also resides the issues of a lot of competitions still restricting Dig, times will change though.. remember when we weren't allowed to use portals or unlocking diffs. Great examples of both uses though.

[@ExocagedRC]

yeah great points, Next year Dig will be legal in C2 Sport and up. Its always been legal in our C3

[@rnemovr59]

Awesome video. I know the motor whine is painful in headphones though.

[@johnnymckissick2735]

What axles are those? Crazy turn angle!!

[@chevy-yd2kt]

Good information video 👍thanx for sharring 👍

[@old-rcplane-phart]

VERY informative video my friend! 👍

[@nathanstewart2018]

Did I hear right? You said those have Capra axles? I have an SCX10II im looking to put a set of portals on.

[@ExocagedRC]

easiest way for that would be 10.3 portals

[@nathanstewart2018]

@@ExocagedRC awesome thanks

[@hemitj]

GREAT VIDEO!!!! Thanks for the great info! You are running the Capra axles, are the internals stock? Axle shafts? Thank you!

[@ExocagedRC]

yeah except for the OD in Optimus 3 the axles are stock. All stock in Mjolnir

[@youknowimwhite]

Would love to see some more technical driving techniques and explanations

[@ExocagedRC]

Like what exactly? I kinda want to get into more detail on both dig and 4ws in separate videos to really get into them.

[@youknowimwhite]

@@ExocagedRC from basic all the way to super advanced technique, even comp techniques, to challenging techniques. I could give you some ideas tomorrow

[@wgmainline9812]

Thank You for another great informative video!!!

[@slamboy66]

At 1:54 what is the orange cord on pulley ?

[@RCKnockout]

I’ve had neither on my rigs. Technically my 6x6 is 6 wheel steer but all of my 4 wheeled crawlers have the stock axles and housings in the rear. The dig feature looks super dope though! 👍😉

[@rcpete7055]

Can you add rear steer to the LMT please😁 I would like to add it to one of my Truck's but am now confident in installing?

[@ExocagedRC]

I may install that into another one.

[@spikeblack6245]

I'm waiting for the lmt knockls to come in and I'll be doing 4ws on it. I was thinking of posting a video of it once i do.

[@kylearizona8553]

Advice for putting 4ws steering on gmade gom? Just find a set of axles to fit it? Thanks

[@TWKNG]

Question could you have both options? The Ultimate lol

[@vinnyilaria2064]

I have the 4ws and using a bastens control box and a bec but my servos keep jittering back and forth

[@JMHZ2401]

Nice video

[@nrs91]

good vid, if you dig in 4ws does it help prevent the back end cutting in so much?

[@ExocagedRC]

Not really at all.

[@nrs91]

@@ExocagedRC fair enough I was thinking being locked up and steered might have caused it to skew sideways rather than pivot on the inside wheel

[@SoloRenegade]

Both

[@georgemuron482]

What is the line going down the middle of two? It looks like a winch line

[@faznf1]

Nice vid 🤙 what is your preference what do you feel like would make the crawler rig finish ahead of the pack,nice crawling both scenarios you are a True EXO EXPERT!!!!SVS!!!!!

[@HBGEB]

Great vid bro

[@Jrod_FPV]

great video comparison. my ears would love it if you could change your ESC PWM setting to 8k or 16khz :)

[@ExocagedRC]

I wish I could but cant do that with the Holmes ESC, well actually I can but they aren't smooth like that, I've tried, with these new silent Revolver ESC's about to hit the market things will get quieter quick.

[@Jrod_FPV]

@@ExocagedRC ah so you lose a bit of precision/control/smoothness when you increase the pwm? I've wondered if that's also the case for other ESCs when you change pwm. Or so you think it's only the Holmes ESC?

[@ekpauly]

Please do a video on how to set up 4WS for flawless operation. I have a FS GT5, I guess i need to buy another damn flysky radio.

[@cwatson42785]

If you decide to upgrade and sell your gt5 in your guy! Lol

[@ekpauly]

@@cwatson42785 But they are so affordable. ? Buy a GT3C instead.

[@cwatson42785]

@@ekpauly That's actually what I have right now. Yes at 75$ they are affordable but its the receivers at 20$ a pop that adds up. Especially when i have like 15 rcs on the gt3c receivers. Guess I could do it over time would be the way to go....

[@jimspencer9628]

In a course you will use rear steer more

[@ExocagedRC]

I feel its more versatile than dig, but more complicated as well.

[@jimspencer9628]

When clods n those sorts of rigs were around i tested rear steer vs servo that disconnect a wire for dig lol n rear got me around 3 courses on 100% rock with less points

[@WY-DaveZ71]

Is there such a thing as 4ws while digging? At the same time?

[@rezzrollinrc]

Sweet Mr. Exo!! Tha new hw axe R2 3300 is killer man ✊🏽🤓 got to review it Rc fam..

[@ExocagedRC]

Yeah I got it taken care of today so I should have it soon, I've got the 3300 and the 2100 on the way so two!!

[@rezzrollinrc]

Sweet Mr. Exo ✊🏽🤓! Can’t wait to see it in action at ur pad. It killed it out here on tha Rez s ok it’s Rez approved haha stay safe man and keep ip the awesome wrk and dnt work to hard man✊🏽🤓

[@rezzrollinrc]

It don’t come with a pinion gear FYI like axe v1 did✊🏽✊🏽🤓

[@octane2099]

Any advise on 1.9 wheels and tires for a new capra?

[@ryancampbell6657]

I prefer 4ws over dig but have a rig with both, and use it as a brake and also as free wheel fwd.

[@ExocagedRC]

yeah I meant to get that in here along with using it to control descents.

[@lukasgarage956]

That's what I was wondering about.....often you can go up but then you have to descend.

[@robbryan3044]

Fantastic video, and a perfect comparison between the two. Unfortunately, it was not truly an honest comparison...as one truck had overdrive gears that the other didn't. Additionally, the fact that two entirely different tires, with completely different tread patterns, were used, it was most definitely NOT an honest comparison. Nevertheless, it did give an honest comparison of how a dig vs 4WS works.

[@ExocagedRC]

I appreciate it. The 4ws truck doesn't need OD gears because of the 4ws. The turning part was meant to focus on the dig vs 4ws but the normal turning set a baseline for each truck, the tires were different but they weren't the focus of this video.

[@alvintarrer6914]

👍☕️☕️✌️lots of practice 👍

[@huelat]

what receiver and transmitter are you using for the 4ws?

[@ExocagedRC]

hacked 8ch flysky gt3c

[@jasonbickford4283]

I just put rear steer in my rig and so far it caused more problems than solutions

[@boarderlinesk8media433]

I just took my dig out, 4ws ftw

[@oragrepz6170]

Whats that witch setup???

[@Ozzieseth]

What tires are on both rigs

[@The918OBS]

I'm a dig guy but its all fun

[@silinalexandr]

What is the chassi name?

[@thomasgross8289]

If reverse is allowed isn't both of these overkill?

[@ExocagedRC]

We don't penalize for reversing, having penalties for reversing is stupid and we will ever do something like that in any event we run. Reversing is part of our strategy and we purposefully put in gates and lines that are faster to reverse though. These features are not overkill at all when used correctly, when used wrong, both of them can hurt performance and scores.

[@michaelbecker5011]

4WS or Dig? Both!

[@AverageReviewsYT]

Now hear me out... Rear dig.. Holds the front end in place but swings the rear end out and around.. Boom.. Drive right through.. Sound plausible?

[@ExocagedRC]

I've done that before, I had an axial trans with VP dig on to the front on a 4ws truck, it worked just like you described and made for awesome burnouts!!!

[@AverageReviewsYT]

@@ExocagedRC then why isnt it a thing lol

[@ka4172]

4WS with dig ha ha!

[@Stealthfoams]

Why not both

[@ExocagedRC]

I like having both.

[@Stealthfoams]

@@ExocagedRC on the same rig?

[@Buzzr666]

What is dig

[@michaelinzitari]

Can’t watch this vid. Your esc making a high pitched sound

[@AverageReviewsYT]

Why waste time and money on rear steer and dig when u can just buy an rc plane and fly over all the obstacles 😬😬

[@ExocagedRC]

LOL TREES!!!

[@SeizedBCG]

Ill always prefer dig over 4ws

[@tracerjournalofrcphotograp3129]

Nice video