JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE, DISCOVERY, PAJERO, PRADO. The best 4x4 off-road SUVs

[@OMYAB_Adventures]

Sounds like if Attenborough did cars

[@faroukwasswa3588]

The most honest reviewer of all time, I salute you sir!

[@BlackRootsAcademyOfSoul]

Very well done video 👏🏿👏🏿 I am Team Mitsubishi Pajero. I've had the 1, two 2's and now the 3. Very good cars the Pajeros, the suspension is incredible 😎 The 4 kinda has the Discovery "feel" of moving away from off road to luxury. Greetings from Uganda 🇺🇬👊🏿🖤🤍

[@FungedeBagre]

I was undecided between the Prado and the Pajero. Your videos made me choose the Prado in 2017. Thanks for all your great videos.

[@jebu100]

my Pajero 2014 works absolutely fine since almost 5 years never breakdown it's my daily use car with weekend offroad picnics with family, and it never beeps unless I drive over 120kph. This father has trust ln pajero.

[@michaelruggero5293]

joshelajanu That too can be switched off.

[@macmurfy2jka]

The designers at jeep were not worried about making the Grand Cherokee customizable because the have the Wrangler for that. A Wrangler can just about be built from the chassis up from aftermarket parts. It’s really incredible actually. There is an entire economy over here in the states that is based on Wrangler modification.

[@loganholmberg2295]

It's still pretty customizable. Sure it's not a rock crawler like a Wrangler can be but I know a lot of people that Mopar out their Cherokees and Renegades cause they are comfortable to drive for long periods of time in the muck with their families and be a primary car at the same time. You would be surprised at the aftermarket options you can get on Cherokees, and even Compasses and Renegades. I'd take any of them over the SUV options Ford or Chevy are offering nowadays. Are they as off road worthy as a Jeep? No. Can you turn them into pretty capable offroaders thanks to the Mopar aftermarket? Yes.

[@jakelunniss1399]

The point is really that it is more difficult than other vehicles in the same category, not that it can't be done or that Jeep weren't worried about it.

[@macmurfy2jka]

Jake Lunniss Trust me, i get that.the family owns a 2013 Jeep Grand Cherokee (WK2) I was just pointing it out for Andrew. Believe it or not the, Jeep WK2 only has 2 more cubic feet of storage than the Jeep Wrangler Unlimited (JKU). And the JKU is like only three inches shorter than the WK2. On paper, at least, the two vehicles are in the same class. Owning a 2008 JKUR, the WK2 is a much better general purpose (read on road/off road) vehicle than the JKU. Thats why I pointed it out. I would much rather be driving a WK2 daily in account of the shorter wheel base alone. I have had lots of trouble going from my previous vehicle to the JKUR for that reason alone. But i have this vehicle because that’s just how things worked out. If Andrew does buy the WK2, i hope he buys an aftermarket bumper that improves its angle of attack. With the current front facia there just isnt great wheel access on account of all the air dams.

[@loganholmberg2295]

@@macmurfy2jka Good point. But then allot of the mods people do is go to a sturdier bumper. I know I would just to put a good winch on it. That's what I really like about the new RAM Power Wagon os that you can get a winch from the factory. I wish they did that on some of the Jeep models. I know they offer a bumper on the JL that can fit a winch but I don't think they offer a winch from the factory do they?

[@cyclemoto8744]

@@macmurfy2jka you need to "read between the lines" when viewing Andrew's videos.

[@jamesgeitz6719]

As a former owner of 4 Discoveries I now own a 79 dual cab. I wouldn’t pay the increased price for the Discovery 5 as I saw no value in why I had to pay $20,000 more than the previous model for lesser features? Landrover no doubt lost a heap of customers on the latest model! It’s less practical & way to expensive. Even after being offered a significant discount by Landrover on the purchase price I still stepped back in space & time & bought the Landcruiser 79 dual cab & I love it.😊

[@Ridingwithmaximus]

I agree with everything you said Andrew great review, however being a pajero owner i do have one hack for all the kids playing at home, if you buy a pajero with a rear differential lock, it turns off the Traction Control making the beeping nul and void. with a few modifications like my gen 4 bash plates, lift, bar with winch and 33 inch muddies, it is very capable. and with it approaching 270k km it has only had a new alternator due to my mud fetish ;)

[@jerrymyahzcat]

Can’t use the locker all the time and shouldn’t need to use it often anyway.

[@Ridingwithmaximus]

@@jerrymyahzcat the locker is only needed when the beeping is an issue. The beeping is the traction control over heating. In regular 4wding you won’t get the beeping. It’s long extended periods of really low traction.

[@wildcraftone]

I just bought my 2011 GX460 (Prado 150 for those of you outside the states) on Friday :D The previous owner crawled malls, with me she gets a new life of exploring and adventuring off the beaten path! I'm wildly excited.

[@phillipdougan329]

This Guy is way underrated, his videos are as good as any off-road camera crew and He is on His Own. Independence .

[@mikehzz9848]

I bought a Pajero a few months back purely on price. I've had Jeeps and Land Rovers in the past with no bad feeling for either. The Pajero is just an honest performer in my book, it's ok at most things and the engine and drive chain are really well sorted. Mine doesn't beep much, maybe Mitsubishi were listening to you?

[@bilalmurtaza5564]

I liked your comment simply because I'm gonna buy Pajero anyway. Thanks bro

[@rossawood5075]

The Pajero is a highly underrated 4WD , very reliable, but the 3.2 diesel with the Aisan auto, Mitsibishi Superselect transmission is the pick, a mandatory 2 inch lift kit, All terrain tyres and it will go as far as any other of the best. Landrover and Jeep have had appalling reliability and build quality over the years and are not popular at all in remote outback Australia or for that matter most of Africa,

[@fourocker]

I've had my 2009 NT Pajero 3.2 common rail for quite a long time, it has the updated Aisin 5 speed auto, I have found it very very good off road and tow a 2.3 ton caravan with it, now with over 300,000km on it and working it as hard as ever I have a lot of respect for it, it's honest, reliable and very easy to live with every day, it's my fourth 4wd and by far the best, to me it's not too fancy but more on the practical side.

[@allanmaccaul1465]

Pajero all day, had mine 12 years and it's never let me down, it's brilliant 👌👌

[@sseibonnevilleman]

The Jeep traction control system is second to none. I wheel with several JK and JL Wranglers, non-Rubicon models and the continually blow my mind how well it works.

[@omersari5041]

looks like you havent really tried quadro drive 2 on grand cherokee's i also tried non-rubicon jl and jks but qd2's real front,rear and central real lockers are amazing on gc especially between 2005 and 10 they are extra good on real solid axel

[@anthonybostock4854]

If there is one person in this world that you can believe when it comes to the honesty when reviewing, comparing and test driving 4x4 vehicles, its Andrew and that's quite simply why the vehicle manufacturers are shit scared of him giving the truthful opinion on their product. Andrew tell it exactly as he sees it with absolutely no bullshit. I can't wait until he is able to get the driving wheel of the new LR Defender, that is going to be a real eye opener. Thanks once again Andrew for bringing us these reviews.

[@a_brit_in_tx9603]

Good video but would have been interesting to also have a discussion about the evolution of reliability (or lack thereof) across the models and years

[@clappedclipco]

yeah mate think that would just go to prado. cant beat a good ole toyote. from one brexan to another we know that rover aint winnin' in reliability, it didnt in the 90s and its even more complicated now. jeep is a chrysler brand with typical midrange american reliability, although a supercharged 6+ liter v8 engine could wear a bit on the drivetrain. mitsubishi is a bit of a mystery but should be okay. i have myself a 2007 lexus gx470 (a prado with a bit of luxury inside) and its fantastically reliable. the 4.7 liter v8 puts out more power than i know what to do with and center locking diff, traction control, and fantastic low range makes the limestone around here seem a bit less jagged.

[@weedmastersr]

They've all become a lot more complicated and impossible to fix. They could be just as durable as the older ones (doubtful), but the difficulty and cost of maintenance and orders of magnitude higher. Toyota is the only one still doing well in this category.

[@YourPalSal714]

@@clappedclipco for all terrain vehicle land rover discovery is the best and reliable too

[@cjeam9199]

the great Salvador Land Rovers have always been terrible for reliability, especially the more modern ones. They’re notorious for it.

[@jeffsama7601]

I'll go for the Prado all day everday

[@dexterrr9163]

4runner trd pro> Prado all day

[@damilolaakanni]

@@dexterrr9163 they're basically the same mechanically.

[@funkyfedaykin]

Excellent video. I've been thinking I'd love to hear Andrew review the 4x4 Dual-cabs (Hilux, Ranger, D-max, etc). They seem to be the face of 4x4 overlanding at the moment, at least in Australia.

[@SanoyNimbus]

Yes! Please do that Andrew!

[@willyd-adv]

Having a swag in the bed of a ute and a 2 inch lift isnt overlanding. Overlanding is more about living out of your vehicle which just isnt good with a ute unless you have a demountable camper. Trust me the Aussi "overland" scene sucks compared to the rest of the world.

[@funkyfedaykin]

@@willyd-adv I was thinking of those that are kitted out with off-road gear with custom cabinets on the back and often a rooftop tent + awning. Dual cabs seem to be popular firstly because they are easily customised (as Andrew noted in the video this is a key thing for such vehicles) with plenty of aftermarket options. Next they are intended to be versatile off road and comfortable on road. They're not prohibitively expensive, and they're often able to be used as a regular vehicle when not overlanding.

[@josem6929]

People do yourslef a favor and watch until the very end. Andrew being Andrew lol.

[@geoff6532]

He drives a 70 series and he's criticising dashes 🤦‍♂️

[@cyclemoto8744]

@@geoff6532 you just don't get it....the 70 doesn't try to be something it isn't whereas these cars are meant to be refined and comfortable

[@geoff6532]

@@cyclemoto8744 don't get me wrong, my daily drive is a 6x6 perentie, I was just being facetious

[@cyclemoto8744]

@@geoff6532 In that case I've taken your comment out of context. Cheers

[@johnp8150]

Jose M ... That’s just Andrew ... ah, yes, and me!! :)

[@youtubeperson1856]

I guess I’ll keep my disco 2a td5 then. Great vid 🤙 ending 😂😂😂

[@philipjooste9075]

Andrew, maybe an idea to follow this up with a second tier comparison - Fortuner, Everest, MUX (and whatever Holden calls it), and Pajero Sport.

[@G55-j9z]

The early 2000's Pajero Sport is way better than any of these, I have owned all 4 of the vehicles mentioned here in the Video and My Pajero Sport leaves them all for dead.

[@mikewasowski1411]

Never seen a review like this. Was amazing. The format and narration was brilliant. Thanks Andrew. Amazing work as always.

[@aussiescraphunter7808]

first time viewing this channel, a 3 year old video, you just got yourself another sub, probably the most open and honest 4wd video I've seen

[@louisferdinand5776]

Andrew i 100% agree on everything you said. however I drive the new Toyota Prado everyday for work in N.T outback Australia and i actually dont mind the interior. (a bit bland compared to the others but practical. Which is what think Toyota was going for in its offroad use.) I absolutely agree that the interior of the Discovery looks better, but lets be honest id never take that vehicle off road (especially with those low profile wheels.) furthermore trying to maintain that interior with the soft leather dash etc would be a nightmare. The Jeep Cheroke, in terms of power performance and price range with all of its fruits it ticks all the boxes but and this is a big but.....their notorious name for unreliability. and again agree i think the mitsubishi Pajero is abit outdated. Love this Video, keep up the great work, enjoy your trip in NZ

[@george1187]

Classic Andrew St Pierre! What a pleasure is to listen to this man! He reminds me of the man who taught me my trade!

[@Ryan4by4]

Having owned a 2011 Pajero Exceed 3.2 for 4 years and, now a 2016 Prado Kakadu 2.8 for 6, I think I can be a fair judge. I have also driven a 2018 facelift GXL as a loan car for some added comparison. Here’s my experience from owning both: 1. Engine: The 3.2l did engine is noisy and rough but has a little more grunt that the 2.8l d4d of the Prado. In saying that, I have no problem driving around town and getting up to highway speeds in the Prado. The 2.8l is far more refined and quieter. One thing that I noticed right off the bat is that the throttle of the Prado is tuned more for offroad driving than it is for on road driving. You have to depress the accelerator pedal a lot further to get the thing moving when compared with my old Pajero. This gave an impression of the Pajero being a lot more responsive. Installing a throttle controller made a world of a difference and I now find the car nearly as responsive as my old Pajero. 2. Transmission: I was happy with the 5-speed auto in my Pajero and am happy with the 6-speed auto in my Prado. In saying that, while towing my 1.8t ATM camper, I did notice the transmission temps of the 5-speed staying around 10°C-15°C cooler than the Prado’s 6-speed. I will get to that in the towing section. 3. Handling: This is where I was the most surprised when going from a Pajero to the Prado. I read multiple forums that talked about the Prado handling like a boat while the Pajero handled like a car due to its monocoque construction and ifs + irs. These comments were most likely made by people that have driven a lower grade Prado and not one with Toyota’s KDSS system. I can without a shadow of a doubt say that the Prado Kakadu handles as well as a Pajero. It is flat through tight turns and not wallowy at all. There is very little body roll around turns. The Prado GXL that I had as a loan car was a different story. It was quite floaty, but not as bad as many of the forums make it out to be. 4. Offroad: Off road, the KDSS system allows the front and rear sway bars to move more freely again improving handling and better wheel articulation. The Pajero felt more unnerving on undulating offroad tracks with very little wheel travel and lots of wheels in the air time. One aspect of the Pajero that I appreciated was the fact that the rear diff was raised quite high off the ground and provided better clearance at the center when lifted. In saying that, I have yet to bottom out the Prado, even when stock. The added benefit of the Kakadu is that the rear of the vehicle can be raised by 2 inches with the push of a button because of its air suspension. While this does not change the diff height, it helps raise the fuel tank and rest of the body, which improves breakover and departure angles. I find the traction control of both cars excellent. The Kakadu also comes with a factory rear differential lock and crawl control, which my Pajero didn’t, although newer ones do come with a factory rear differential lock. 5. NVH: The Prado wins this hands down. The Pajero feels like a rattly, loud, harsh truck when compared to the Prado. Every minor imperfection in the road would send a shudder through the cabin of the Pajero and it got quite tiring on longer journeys. Many have suggested playing music louder to drown out the rattles, but that just made things worse because every door panel would vibrate with the slightest hint of bass. The Rockford sound system was a missed opportunity because of how badly the interior of the car rattled, making listening to anything with bass quite irritating. The JBL system in the Prado is far superior and nuanced with close to zero rattles. The suspension of the Pajero was also quite hard and brittle and I never quite go used to it. I find the suspension of the Prado more forgiving and supple. 6. Practicality: The boot of the Pajero is taller in stock form, but as deep and as wide as the Prado. If you were to remove the 3rd row seats of the Prado and install a false floor, the boot capacity would be identical. The Prado does have a sliding 2nd row so you can increase the depth of the boot quite substantially. Moving to the middle row of both vehicles, the Prado has bottle holders in both doors as well as a couple in the center arm rest. The Pajero only has a couple in the center arm rest. The Prado also has a digital hvac control in the rear vs a pair of knobs on the Pajero. In the Prado, you can also control the temperature/fan speed of the rear via controls in the front, which I find really handy. The front also has dual zone AC, which is great. There is also a fridge in the center console of the Kakadu, which I love. There are also no bottle holders in the door cards in the front row Pajero either, which the Prado has. 7. 2nd row seating: The Pajero was quite uncomfortable in the second row. You sit in a slightly squatting position because of how high the floor is and there is no room under the front two seats for you to stretch out, which my kids hated. The wheel arches on either side of the middle row seats impeded into the seats themselves, which gave my kids a sore back and bum on long journeys. The Prado has none of these problems and my kids love it. There is plenty of space under the front two seats to stretch out and the floor is quite a bit lower so no more squatting. Also, no wheel arches do deal with. 8. 3rd row seating: I found the 3rd row of the Pajero quite useless and almost never used them. There is almost no leg room for anyone over the age of 12 and because the middle row is fixed, this cannot be remedied. The Prado on the other hand can easily accommodate an adult if you slide the middle row forward, while still having enough space for 2nd row occupants. It also helps that the 3rd row in the Prado can fold 50:50, so you can carry 6 passengers and still have space in the boot for some luggage. 9. Fuel capacity and economy: I regularly get between 1400km and 1500km from the 150l fuel tank in the Prado, which is brilliant. With the Pajero, I’d get around 850km from the 88L tank. Fuel consumption on both is around the same, between 10 - 10.5 l/100km with mixed city and highway driving. 10. Towing: The Pajero is a better tow vehicle. While the Prado tows my 1.8t camper quite well, I do find it slightly lacking power on steeper inclines. While the Pajero is no y62 or 200 series when it comes to towing, it did drive up the same inclines with a little more ease. It’s not night and day, but it is noticeable. I also noticed the transmission pan temperatures in the Prado to be higher than the Pajero by about 10°C-15°C while towing. I had to install a transmission cooler and lockup kit in the Prado to keep temperatures down, which has worked a treat. I rarely see temperatures exceeding 90°C anymore. 11. Reliability: I had to replace the top timing chain guides on the Pajero as well as get a valve clearance done every 30,000km, which I did twice while owning the vehicle. I had no major issues with the Pajero. With the Prado, I had the DPF replaced with upgraded hardware and software free of cost by Toyota. They also replaced the timing chain assembly with upgraded hardware free of cost. Since these have been replaced, I have had no issues with the Prado. 12. Price: I paid AUD 30,000 for the Pajero Exceed with 70,000ks on the clock back in 2014 and paid AUD 52,000 for the Prado Kakadu with 94,000km on the clock back in 2018. Is the Prado worth the $22,000, for the added refinement, comfort, and long-range fuel tank, while still being as good on and off road, I’d say yes, if you can afford it. My family and I have no regrets selling the old faithful for the Prado and have no plans of selling it.

[@martinhogan5970]

LOVED the ending of this review 🤣🤣🤣.

[@MrListentothebass]

I think I’ve only just appreciated how well made these videos are

[@benwiles7433]

If you watch Andrew's other channel on film making you see all the concepts explained in his usual clear authoritative style.

[@OverlandTT]

11:27 was the 3rd generation Grand Cherokee, none the less an excellent video Andrew 👍

[@robcarlile8081]

Agreed!! I’ve had 3 Lr and own Lr4 atm and the best feature is the tailgate! Or and everything else ;)

[@cd7059]

Great review have just purchased a 1997 Prado VX in great condition all the bells and whistles awesome car going this weekend really hard finding reviews on Prado especially the older ones really great video and content allround have a great day

[@jacomalan7555]

Andrew's reviews are awesome. The TFL and other KZbin Warriors can learn a few things from him

[@olivergunn1913]

you should review the duster, it does stand out from its competitors, it has a locking centre diff, a very low 1st gear and a very utilitarian design, it is so much more accessible to people who don't have land cruiser type money, there is also a huge modification community all around the world. Would also enjoy seeing the fiat panda cross and the new Suzuki Jimny. Budget overlanding!

[@ndafarachaitezvi1139]

A very passionate analysis of the vehicles.You set the benchmark of overlanding

[@reichlha1968]

Great video! Perfect summary of the most interesting 4x4s of the last 30-50 years. Fully agree with the summary and love the 5 seater test.

[@reececulver3606]

I appreciate the honesty in your reviews! I don't understand the hate you got from Mitsi fans, i own an '09 Pajero and i completely agree with your assessments. But for my budget and usage, it was the only pick for me.

[@connorm1600]

I really enjoyed this format of video. Keep up the good work Andrew

[@aussiedrifter]

If I had to choose I would take the Jeep Cherokee as I owned a XJ & off road it was a virtual mule in going places + they have the magnificent Hemi engine.

[@rockymountboy]

No they don't. Grand Cherokees are available with the Hemi. The Cherokees are not, and never were regardless of model.

[@phk86]

Andrew, I really enjoyed this video and I really appreciate how the entire history of the models are included with your own experience and video material from that time. It must be a very small group of people out there who have the experience and material to do this, kudos!

[@pradolover]

I have a 2000 Prado 90, love it even at 378,000km

[@DonegalOverlanding]

Fantastic episode, this is the kind of video I love. It also makes me super happy that Ive decided to turn my Discovery 1 into a 130 Overlander!

[@gooieboerseun]

Seriously ....? You're joking right?

[@donpardo1]

I really appreciate your honesty, dry humor and foremost your passion which always shines through your presentations; over many decades. I love it !!Never change mate!!

[@pauls4708]

only one thig about the old Pajero.You can get into a brand new Pajero(NOT pajero sport) for nearly $20 k less than a prado here in NZ .enough for few low level mods to still be cheaper

[@WesternAustraliaNowAndThen]

If you have a Prado 90 series and haven't checked the lower ball joints in a while, do it before one of the front wheels come off. I know it happens because it happened to us and it has happened to many other people

[@Digger43]

It's really great to watch a video that is completely unbiased. I drive a 2013 Jeep Grand Cherokee diesel and I love it !. It's powerful, comfortable, economical and reliable and I dare say if I was to buy another 4x4 wagon tomorrow it'd be another Jeep. However after watching this video I'd consider any of the other three. Well done Andrew !!!.

[@SiCrewe]

Absolutely spot-on assessment of the Disco 5. Over the last decade "everybody" has come to realise that JLR products are really aimed at footballers or their wives. Disco 5 was simply JLRs attempt to sell a Beckham-mobile to people who still wanted to believe they're buying a "proper 4x4". Course, now you can actually buy a Beckham-mobile with the "Defender" badge on it too. :-(

[@geenev3]

Hi Andrew Great analysis regarding those vehicles. I own a Prado 150 (2015) and like you I too feel the interior's a little boring, it's true Toyota has had this model for ten years, one would think that would be plenty time for to make some meaningful refresh to that very bland interior. When I was in the market for a go-anywhere SUV I watched and red many many reviews and with a conviction even without a test drive, I already knew I wanted a Prado Landcruiser. Now from my experience of owning the Prado 150 (4yrs now) I believe the fundamentals of the Prado AKA "Landcruiser" is mostly a sound and reliable vehicle. Yes it's true this Toyota is still Mr reliable = Landcruiser" yes, its for this reason I am happy with my vehicle choice, it has not failed me yet 🤞.... 80% on road & 20%off road

[@codypatron5968]

Can i ask you how's the headroom in the Prado? I have been wondering why nobody makes a SUV like a 4-runner but with more headroom, I'm talking around $50k or less. i know Nissan makes sthe Armada....but hat's not really used for off-road and it doess't have that off-road look. And I know Lexus makes the 470 and 570....but they have that luxury look and people don't really use them for off-road.

[@timwynn6079]

We have a 2006 Prado 2.7L V6, & we drive it on road 99% of the time. It has a significant body roll when driving fast.

[@4ussie393]

here in the Philippines we call it "Pajero" not montero, but great video, i think the last real offroader pajero is the gen 2 in my opinion.

[@berga312]

Absolutely correct about the middle seat in the Prado, we’ve had a 2012 model since new and everyone that’s sat in that seat has hated it. Would not want to do a long trip in tat seat. Other than that it’s been a fantastic vehicle over the last 6 years(105k) and has only needed regular services.

[@kyleb5518]

The Pajero is by far the most underrated - talk to any reputable mechanic they will all tell you they are as reliable as the best (if not better with the most reliable autos and 3rd world proven engines) and the 4wd system and ifs/irs works EXCEPTIONALLY WELL and they are built brilliantly, the disco is great but suffered from there own over complexity, The prado is the most basic, and works because of it, The jeep is comfortable, very comfortable, but makes the disco look reliable

[@hughdeeming772]

As Basil Brush would say after delivering a perfect coup de grace one-liner..."Boom Boom!!"

[@LandtechnikinHighDefinition]

really hard review for the pajero, I'm really happy with mine. I think you have to test this car also in ruff terrain outside the dunes. Also I think the pajero has one of the most underrated traction controlsystems, it works brilliant. There are enough videos online which compare the jeep, toyota and the pajero, the prado and pajero are often the best cars in view of traction control systems. But yes the pajero is a bit outdated and not longer in production. But I also think, for everyone who search a real and affordeble 4x4, the pajero is a quit good choice. Is reliable, powerful drivetrain, timeless designed and in normal onroad use really good to drive. Additionally there are a huge amount of accessories for the pajero gen 4 on the market, to make him better in view of offroad performance if needed.

[@colinjohnston5465]

The overall boot space in Disco 4 is the reason we have gone back to 1, well actually 2, Disco 4s. His and hers. We sold our RR Sport Autobiography, which was awesome but with spectacularly poor boot space and did not have ..... the drop down tail gate!

[@JohnErnstP76]

Love it the last comment.... I did buy the Prado for two other reasons - 1) Dealer networks, 2nd to none 2) Resale value, 2nd to none.

[@lubomirgrznarik430]

This was the best and honest review I ever saw about off roader. Thank you very much.

[@randyfrog1969]

Great review and very funny end. Having replaced my stolen Disco 4 with a Disco 5, I must say I love it. But you're right, in many ways the Disco 4 was more practical and I do miss the drop down tailgate. I don't mind the look of the back end but I do miss the drop down tailgate. For everything else I use the vehicle for; long motorway journeys, towing a large caravan, carrying lots of stuff in incredible comfort, it's the perfect vehicle. But I don't go off road; a few muddy building sites and boggy fields aside. If I did, I'd have bought another Disco 4 without a thought. All this aside though, I can't disagree with any of your comments and observations regarding any of the vehicles. As I said, great review.

[@ettienneniemann8929]

Andrew, I have followed and enjoyed your work for quite some time. I have however never seen you mention the VW Touareg? Apologies if I have missed it, but do you not rate it at all or is there any reason you have not done a review on it? I am specifically referring to the model with terrain tech ( low range, centre, and rear diff locks)?

[@jasonwishart6800]

Have ordered a Prado 150 before it’s replaced. The dash is like a 70’s HiFi. Accidentally retro-cool.

[@nathanvernon8320]

Fantastic video Andrew! In a couple of places you had me laughing out loud and as I’m watching it in a cafe with head phones, I was getting a few funny looks😁 thank you for sharing your treasure chest of knowledge once again!

[@rhoelg]

it is never called Montero in the Philippines it was always been Pajero there :)

[@kentmooney54]

I really enjoy your videos buddy! -North Carolina

[@PatrickRich]

Boy I tell you, even though I'm American and apparently biased the Quadra-Drive was FAR superior. It needed more maintenance than an open system with traction control but it was an actual lsd/locker as opposed to brake bakes. Quadra-drive was magic when it was maintained properly and it could fully and automatically lock the differentials smoothly and seamlessly. Land Rover's system, was mostly a test to see how fast you could make the three amigo's appear and disappear.

[@fredbrackely]

OMG, crying with laughter at 28:00, I think it was Gwynn complaining haha. I will be sticking with my 9 yr old LR4 V8, with now 150K miles. Btw still on my original air springs!!

[@khaledaziz8867]

Loved the original English sense of humor in the end🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@dodgy56]

Hi Andrew, would you be able to tell me what was the squealing noise comming from the jeep at 12:07 in this video. Thanks

[@Sparrowfart2]

HI Andrew, I did enjoy it it is a great review. Thanks mate.

[@أسفار]

great vedio

[@shekharmoona544]

Land Rover was a Classless car. I love this channel.

[@commonsense-grs]

This was a great review Andrew. Just about spot on with this review, but out of all these I would go the Jeep Grand Cherokee Trialhawk. For me it's the best of both worlds, great off road, great tourer, great tow vehicle and I don't care what other say, love the look and they are very comfortable, you have power seats to raise them up to a comfy height you know. You really can get some good after market gear for these now, and with a good set of off road tyres will keep up with the best and you don't need to change everything like the 70 series LC. Also don't have to put in a lift kit, lift it up with the air suspension when needed and put it back down when touring on the black top. Great diesel engine with class leading power, what more do you want. I'm a little bias, as I have a 2010 WH diesel and that's very good.

[@alexfladung]

Thanks. I really enjoyed that. Especially the different angle at the end.

[@aukanmeister]

Wingefest 😀 love it! Thanks for the insight!

[@Wonderer245]

Well sir,I am impressed by your comparison,but I would say none of them are bad (except the 4th generation discovery),I am a land cruiser 70 ,Nissan patrol y61 ,pajero mk2 and a Land Rover defender guy,but I also like many other 4x4s ,and would love to own them,others might have a Land Rover discovery 2 as their preference,but I never stop them fro. Preferring it,and in fact I love them

[@CaBal2507]

Excelente vídeo!.

[@mwesigwadanielmusula2885]

You always honest and giving the best advice

[@andyaskew1543]

Great review. Being in the US I would like to see you test and review the different versions of the Toyota 4Runner... Especially the Traction Control/Crawl Control/Terrain select system...

[@Jacob-qd4yq]

Yup, I've been bogged down in sand to the frame rails and the 4Runner can easily dig itself out every time with CC turned on

[@DonsShed]

I wish we could get the 4Runner here in Australia.... I follow Jason Koertge here on YT and love his 4Runner

[@willyd-adv]

4 runner is sadly only sold in North America.

[@diketsondlovu8579]

I wish we had those in South Africa

[@TheMCD1989]

I had no idea the 4runner was only sold in NA. Seems like it would sell like mad in other places, it's a great SUV.

[@harveysmith100]

For all the Discovery 2 owners who really wish they had a center diff lock, I will let you into a secret, you do. It wasn't removed from the gearbox, probable for commonality with other vehicles. They just removed the linkage which is all accessible. You can link it back up with a few parts from the breakers yard or ebay. Lot's of KZbin videos on how to.

[@jaroslavbrada7669]

Mine does not have the linkage but the diff lock is still there. I got a hi/lo gear stick from D1 to retrofit to my D2 during my next overhaul.

[@harveysmith100]

@@jaroslavbrada7669 That is exactly what I mean

[@Yarxov]

Seems some 2002s and 2003s do not have the lock either unfortunately

[@jaroslavbrada7669]

@@Yarxov Hm that seems weird because as far as i know the first models of had the linkage then they removed it arround 2001 (which mine is) but left the guts in the transfer case. The facelifted D2s should all have a CDL.

[@robstone4537]

I had a 2002 TD5 manual and that’s what I did. Major improvement in off road ability.

[@PaulMcCabe]

Great review, I would love to see a review on the Prado 90 vs Prado 120. I have just bought a 2002 Prado 95 D4D auto. I did look at a 120 & also Grand Cherokee 05 but didn’t because of reliability concerns.

[@peanuts2105]

I think the Discovery is light years ahead of the rest in all areas. Looks are a very personal and while I agree to a point but you simply cannot deny the Discovery is an awesome machine. I just wish it looked more like the Discovery 4.

[@austinokomol]

From Kenya. I watched the entire video. Very good sentiments

[@kellydrolet4740]

Great product comparison. I tend to watch the road and only cross check the gauges and really don't even notice the dash or controls once set when I start to drive. I prefer to have the key controls up and away from anything that can hit or accidently activate them. Toyota does a good job of that. All manufacturers need to rethink the traction control and provide a true off road version so we don't get the funny noises and beeping or limp mode activated when I really want power to the wheels - any wheel. Nice work Andrew.

[@moondog573]

the trooper was so close to being the best body on frame SUV available in the USA. A few key (read very expensive) issues has relegated it to the junk yard. Thanks GM.

[@diesel92kj1]

moondog Why ? it's known as one of the most reliable in my area.

[@moondog573]

@@diesel92kj1 3.x motors are thirsty for oil and a lot of owners didn't stay on top of it, the 4l30e wasnt suitable for that vehicle.

[@camiloortega1790]

Andrew you are saying that you can’t live with the Prado interior, probably is not the best interior but, how you can live with the 70 series interior? That interior is from a 30 old year car. How can you explain that?

[@4xoverland]

I don't see that age has any bearing on it. Some interiors from cars made in the 60s' were the most interesting of all time. The Prado dash is far better in almost every respect but for the fact that it is deadly dull. The 70-series dash at least has character. (BTW This dash was first seen 12 years ago.)

[@camiloortega1790]

4xoverland yes, maybe was seen 12 years ago but, that kind of interior was the ones that 80’s and 90’s car. The question is: is the Prado interior functional for you in the same way that the 70 series is functional for you? PS. Thank you for your response. I’m watching your videos the whole weekend and I appreciate your content. I just bought a 2019 Toyota 4Runner and I can’t wait to travel just the way you do on your 70 series. Regards.

[@johnp8150]

Andrew , this is a great video. Thanks for taking all the time to create your great content!! ... @end ... and me!!

[@robh3895]

Best car report ever, everything you need to know, nothing you don't, terific work, Everest 2l,10speed would of been good to hear about.

[@nikolaystoykov9413]

11:24 3rd gen GC. QD2 the best factory 4wd system with 3 variable up to full lock ELSDs, with 2:72:1 low range.

[@cgunugc]

Avoid the 3.8l v6, though. Normally I don't think V8s are a requirement, but for WKs they are, just to avoid the 3.8l

[@nikolaystoykov9413]

There isn't a WK with a 3.8l motor. They have petrol 3.7 v6, 4.7 V8, 5.7 V8 hemi and 6.1 V8 hemi for the SRT. Diesel 3.0 v6 Merc engine. The diesel has good power and torque. You can see a 0-100 acceleration of the diesel on my channel.

[@marcap599]

Excellent video! Really no lies, pure truth!

[@azizlenox]

I hope you build a Prado 💪

[@Shakes23100]

How modifiable is a top spec Prado suspension that comes with KDSS? Mechanics have advised to leave it as it is.

[@dexterrr9163]

u are not able to build prado

[@gregreed402]

Your the man well analysed and excellent conclusion, I’m with you on Toyota Pravda

[@Woodsy2024]

I’d have a prado over a 79 land cruiser that hasn’t changed in 40 years but that’s just me

[@MartinBettler]

Great =)) * yes folks look til the end

[@marcovalenzuela4177]

That was really good, and bloody funny mate

[@isaiasmartinez7969]

For me the 3rd. Generation of Discovery would be the best of all, but the thing is this is a video for all up to 2019 models 😅. As much I remember you have mentioned you did not drive the Discovery 3, but the 4th. I think is quiet similar. Anyway, excellent content, congrats. Even in 2019 is very entertaining video.

[@jamieaustin6403]

Great video Andrew... one mistake though, @2 minutes... the facelifted discovery got the 300Tdi, as it already had the 200

[@healthyamerican]

so sad to see land rover go from camel trophy events to rodeo drive

[@bcatz454]

Nah, rodeo drive is current Gwagen territory. LR is more go back to the dealer for electrical problems

[@harveysmith100]

Comment of the week. Spy pictures of the new Defender don't look to rugged either, I am really hoping it is a trick and the real Defender will be a real Defender

[@healthyamerican]

@@harveysmith100 my theory is that they wouldnt have dropped the defender if they were only going to replace it with a real defender. the real defender is now history and the new defender will be nothing but a new discovery with a more squared body style to fool people into thinking its still the same old defender only better

[@harveysmith100]

@@healthyamerican I have a theory and I hope I am right. Years ago it was mooted that the Defender would need two models to replace it. Now, look at this vehicle, independent suspension all round, very un Defender. Are they releasing this first, letting all the dust settle and then bring out something more rugged. Not as good as a Defender but people will be so grateful it's not as soft as they first thought.

[@healthyamerican]

@@harveysmith100 hope you are right. but you have more faith than i do when it comes to this type of thing. i feel its over for land rover, otherwise they wouldnt have dropped it in the first place

[@mrme982007]

My next car will be a Prado... but I wouldn’t get the GXL, I’ll get a VX (in New Zealand) for the money you get all those little things that just make it a nicer place to be, leather, heated/cooled seats sat nav and power seats. It’s no worse on the inside than my Outback!

[@h0uz3t00b]

Everything inside me screams "GET THE PRADO" but somehow my bank account firmly and calmy says "stay with that old beat up Hilux."

[@noodlefoo]

Prado is overpriced for me, so I got the excellent value Pajero Sport :)

[@romantkachuk168]

@@noodlefoo So true. MPS is the best value without compromising the capability

[@emilrozkoszny3935]

prado is light years ahead in terms of offroad ability, massive diesel tank, class leading traction control, reliability

[@noodlefoo]

Emil Rozkoszny Massive fuel tank - Yes. Light years ahead in off-road ability - what a joke.

[@boomcaniboom]

I bought a used Prado and while the price was definitely higher than the others it should also hold a lot of it when I eventually sell it on. In Aus you do pay more for the Toyota badge but once it's in the used market the depreciation isn't terrible.

[@ihmesekoilua]

You love bashing the Disco 2, but do think about it this way; it ended up having a CDL, a ladder frame, solid axles, excellent clearance, excellent suspension travel and very acceptable on-road handling. It IS a better car than a Disco 1, the traction control with center lock is pretty good for it's time. I test drove a Disco 5 and holy cow that is a nice car. Flip on all the off roady bits and raise the suspension to the highest setting and that thing would go anywhere.

[@yeti5631]

Another great video but I am still waiting to hear what your next personal project is going to be. My LC 100 is starting to succumb to the British salted roads and I am looking for a sensibly priced alternative.

[@4xoverland]

fix it! The 100 is outstanding.

[@hanss.607]

Great Show!👍 I enjoyed a lot! Subbed and liked!😉 I will stay with my 2005 Disco 3 V8, I just love it.... and it is much more reliable than my last Audi, same age😣 Best regards from Bavaria 👍

[@PleiadesOfBirdham]

Very enjoyable vid thanks and much wisdom contained therein.

[@mrk9621]

I enjoyed that. I know you cant get them in the UK, (the new Y62) but I'd love to get your overview on the Nissan Patrol. Same as in the video, past to present. It's the one vehicle you never seem to have anything to do with. Thanks.