5,000 mile Frogg Toggs Ultralight Rain Jacket Review

You can't get much cheaper or lighter than a Frogg Toggs rain jacket when it comes to hiking and backpacking... but it does come with some SERIOUS downsides.
If you would like to try one for yourself, they are cheap! and can be found here:
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I've used this jacket on the Appalachian Trail, Florida Trail, Sheltowee Trace Trail, Pacific Crest Trail, Pacific Northwest Trail, Uinta Highline Trail, and many others! It has served me well for the most part but I've also had some really scary experiences with it.
Given it's poor durability and baggy loose fit, it will catch on just about anything you brush up against and very easily rip to shreds. Leaving you cold and wet in the rain, and out of luck until the next town. In many cases this wouldn't be so horrible if you're hiking in the summer but could certainly lead to hyperthermia in many other cases.
I am personally switching away from this rain jacket for future thru hikes, but still think it would be a great starter ultralight rain jacket, or a jacket you just use on shorter overnight trips.
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[@MojaveZach]

it may rip easily, but the fact a 20$ jacket can last 2000 miles is still pretty good lol

[@timetoreason181]

Absolutely!!! 2OOO miles of trekking, hiking with a $2O jacket, made with few grams of plastic.

[@orion7741]

@@JungleBoyUKProductReview one jacket did not last him the 5,000 miles. he said that he has went through multiple pairs.

[@bjornegan6421]

carrying a jacket for 1 million miles is irrelevant. i want to know how many miles he has worn the jacket for, not carried it. furthermore, i want to know how many miles he's worn the jacket in the rain

[@drqazlop]

Not really.

[@adamnoman4658]

@@bjornegan6421 I want to know how many * hours * it's been worn.

[@ryankeane8072]

The only place I’ve ripped my old Frogg Togg was in the sleeve near the wrist trying to get it off too fast once. Duct tape fixed and no problems for a couple years. Switched to a XL so I could fit it easier over my pack - love it, but not a lot of miles on foot. It’s what I wear when I bike to work in the rain. For me, it’s Frogg Togg or Gatewood Cape. If I’m not hammock sleeping, I often bring both, so redundancy for rain gear. Not a fan of rain jackets.

[@bjornegan6421]

wetting out does not mean leaking. wetting out is when the outer layer of fabric which exists only to protect the waterproof membrane loses it's dwr finish properties and gets saturated. water does not go through the jacket. liquid water does not penetrate the membrane. the outler layer gets wet. it's the same thing as what would happen if you were wearing a plastic poncho in the rain and put a cotton t shirt on over it. you aren't getting wet. when this happens, the membrane loses its ability to breathe and the surface of the jacket has evaporative properties so you will feel cold and wet. but you aren't wet.

[@John-Adam]

Just buy a heavier and more expensive rain jacket...I mean it's probably the most important piece of gear with the shoes...it's ridicilous to remove 500 grams on a major piece

[@danielfulk6427]

I thru-hiked the AT this year with 2 Frogg Toggs jackets. I didn't bring or use the pants. I loved the jackets. I figured this was one area where I could get away with buying cheap gear and it worked very well for me. In addition to its intended purpose, I used the jacket every day as a ground sheet to throw all my gear on while making and tearing down camp. I spent $40 on rain gear for a thru-hike. Pretty good IMO.

[@wisenber]

I generally carry Duck tape. That would allow any jacket to make it an extra hundred miles. Then again, I've never been dry hiking in the rain with any raingear.

[@bjornegan6421]

duct

[@wisenber]

@@bjornegan6421 "Duck" is a brand/type of tape.

[@bjornegan6421]

@@wisenber it is a brand name.

[@wisenber]

@@bjornegan6421 Yes it is, just like "Band-aid". Actual "duct tape" would be poorly suited for most of the repairs mentioned as it is inflexible wit an aluminized face. Then again, "Duck tape" actually is a poor choice for ducts.

[@bjornegan6421]

@@wisenber it seems as though you really don't know what you're talking about.

[@bencouchman1383]

I have the same jacket and I have at least 150 miles on it. Looks like I have at least 1850miles left!

[@happyhighfive5848]

It’s easy to rrippitt...

[@dakotaellis5063]

This deserves more love than it gets. Lmao

[@MmmmmmmmmmmMm15]

If it was a car it would be a Land Rover Discovery 😂

[@michaelb1761]

Only if it cost ten times as much and weighed 5 times what it does.

[@rageoid]

Thanks for this - been a togger for years, we used to sell them in our store. They also now make an Xtreme lite jacket, it is about 1.4 ounces lighter than the ultra and rolls up a bit tighter, around $40.00. I do not take a Togg on longer and colder trips. I saw one viewer share a concern that they do not pack well - I always had good luck folding it about 4 times on the same bias and then doing a tight roll up. Best value for the money in rain wear IMO, never had one totally wet out. Anti-gravity Gear offers a light and effective non-breathable jacket with pit zips, it's tough and durable, I think it is closer to $100, it has kept me a lot drier than my Event and Gore-tex models, which all seem to wet out eventually. Great advice on risk and trust.

[@MattShafter]

1.4oz lighter? Someone on amazon is saying the XL Xtreme Lite is 8.4oz. Can you confirm?

[@rageoid]

@@MattShafter - Matt - whoops, I just went and and got it, weighed it, it is 4.1 ounces, marked M/L - BUT, it's actually the Emergency Frogg Toggs jacket. I checked on amazon, they had a purple L/XL for 8 bucks and I bought another one, fabric is thin but they work well, no pockets. I am 5' 10", 175 lbs, 42 chest - would the Skylight L/XL work for me, or maybe size down ? Thanks

[@30m3]

Gore-Tex will wet out if you don't take care of it properly. That involves regularly washing and reapplying DWR.

[@melo9490]

my god from the title I thought you’d actually managed to keep the same frogg toggs for 5000 miles...after 5 miles mine become 75% duct tape

[@rigbyUnbound]

cheers for that J. i gave up on them becos most of the trails in the UK aren't as groomed as in the US so they rip up real easy and the waste involved in replacing them just seemed ridiculous so i went for something more resistant to breakup.. sure it weighs more & costs 3 times the price but i won't have to change it out every few hikes so carbon footprint is lowered and one step further away from throw away society

[@memathews]

Excellent story and advice. In the old days we used rubberized surplus Navy rain jackets or military ponchos. They were heavy and bulky, but they kept us dry during days of rain hiking and working in the Cascades. Later I tried Gore-Tex, eVent, etc., and found they were pretty good for awhile, but eventually wet out no matter what I tried. Now I've gone back to PVC and PU coated fabrics like Helly Hansen and Columbia work jackets. Yes, they will build up sweat inside, but layering manages that. The only thing I miss is cold water running down my back and soaked clothes. We wear these jackets, and pants/bibs, for cutting logs off trails, brushing, building rock retaining walls, and the typical hiking.

[@miker5502]

Exactly! I could have saved myself 10 minutes,writing this very thing, had I seen your excellent comments first. Cheers from Nova Scotia.

[@elizabethingram9784]

HH is such great gear, and I’ve always had great results with Columbia. Just heavier than Ultalite stuff.

[@oliviathomas8818]

In that kind of dangerous situation, I feel like he move would be to set up camp and try to stay as dry as possible? Wait out the storm?

[@jedikaren8112]

But if you have limited food and water you have to keep going.

[@mrdark9916]

u can get plenty of water from the storm itself, and you can go many days without food. it just depends, if your freezing and wet, you need to bunker up, atleast for the night. dry off, attempt to dry out wet clothes, and get a hot meal and drink in ya., see what tomorrow brings. sometimes u can just keep going, sometimes you just gotta listen to your gut and get out of the storm. problem i have is the "ultralight" crowd are foolish in my opinion. ill carry 10 extra pounds for the extra capabilities it gives me when an unexpected situation forces itself upon you

[@miker5502]

Rain gear is a mystery item, if it is supposedly breathable, it will wet out when the DWR coating wears down, it never seems as good than when it was new, after reapplying DWR it wets out even faster than before. If you buy something that is actually waterproof , like Helly Hansen with a PU coating, you will stay dry from the outside but sweat like a pig 🐷 inside , though it is much tougher , which is why so many people who do roadwork or construction wear them, and they are heavy. Ventilation through Pit Zips is helpful, but it can cause leakage as well. The perfect lightweight rain gear that will hold up in tough conditions, keep you dry both inside ( from sweat ) and keep the elements out...hasn’t been invented yet IMHO. Until it is there is always going to be a compromise made. The quest for perfection continues, until then, stay dry my friends!

[@memathews]

Ah, a fan from a land that truly knows cold and wet!

[@miker5502]

Yes , we seem to get more than our fair share of wind and rain . Tonight it is literally howling outside with lots of wet stuff along with it, the good news , at least for today is that it is not the white stuff and I won’t have to shovel it tomorrow. Cheers Mike.

[@30m3]

The closest Gore have come is with shakedry, but it's not particularly durable. If they add abrasion resistance like on Schoeller Dryskin then it could be great.

[@KevinCGleason]

Wore one to walk to the grocery store in the rain the other day, forgot my facemask, put the jacket on backwards and tied the hood over my nose and mouth, no problem.

[@HughScott316]

What a wonderful mental image

[@luboyanev]

🤣

[@mrdark9916]

a mask.... rofl

[@davidp6913]

The mask mandates have brought out some interesting phenomena

[@wanderlustfrost9938]

Thanks so much for this video! I’ve been thinking of buying this jacket for my PCT thru hike, so it’s very informative and helpful. Thank you :)

[@MattShafter]

Biggest con is that the Frogg Toggs packs down like GARBAGE. It takes up way too much space. Just got a L/XL Skylight Gear silpoly jacket with pit zips (3oz) and am testing!

[@ethanlehman9052]

2 toggs jackets lasted me my whole At thru. The one I started with had some miles on it before I started and made it from Georgia to mid PA, the second set seemed new, but it was from a hiker box and it's still going strong.

[@bikepackingmitherbert1153]

the answer is Duck tape, of which I have at least 5m round my Trekking poles and for me surprisingly, there it lasts for years in a working state, on the other hand, your solution on this jacket is absolutely my opinion in any respect, I could not describe it any better.

[@andrewgarrett5071]

Good stuff. I use an XL that fits over me and my pack and it definitely beats any kind of extra pack cover

[@TheNypenfan]

Cool idea. Never thought of that. I may have to pick one up

[@ryankeane8072]

Same here - love my XL Frogg Togg over my pack and covers my gear on my front. For me it’s either poncho or oversized Frogg Togg - I don’t like hiking in rain jackets.

[@jhonyermo]

I really love mine. But thanks for the negatives my fondness of my Frogg Toggs led me to overlook.

[@JupiterHikes]

I am the same way jhon! Loved it for so long but hope to just say that it should be watched out for. A small tear can very easily turn into a big one on an essential backpacking item

[@jeffreycarman2185]

9:50 I think when you do ultralight backpacking (like Jupiter does) it is dangerous. He downplays the dangers of using a 1/8 pad and not extra clothing, but this is risky. Unless you have optimal conditions and are able to find optimal campsites, every night, you will be cold -and in the worst-case scenario, you could die.

[@AndrewWisler]

2 Frog Toggs?

[@gyulabela7823]

1.Good expensive jacket rips same easily like frog toggs. 2. You can replace 6 - 8 times on a thru hike on a price of quality jackets in any place like Walmart what is our basic supply store. 3. If you have a garbage bag with you, you could make an emergency water proof T- shirt, what is protecting your torso. You should wear your damaged froggs above it. Hoody will protect water flow into your neck. Forearms and legs should be soaked.

[@ecksdee7957]

I'd like to see you talk about rain jackets from lightheart gear or anti gravity gear, seems like a more durable version of the frogg toggs that will also not wet out. I'm thinking the visp will probably perform similar to other 3 layer jackets in that once the DWR wears off it will wet out rather quickly.

[@reneap9049]

Does Frogg Togg wet out??? Headed to Alaska in 2024, looking for dependable rain gear.

[@mars_hikes967]

OK, so you have to carry two of them at all times. At this price point you still save a lot of cash.

[@zaneearldufour]

And weight, tbh

[@coasternut3091]

This guy at work was bragging about his $200 jacket. I told hom mine cost around $25, with the pants. He said he'd never heard of Frogg Toggs, to which I replied, "That explains why you spent $200 on a jacket"

[@30m3]

A $25 trash bag.

[@beardedbehr4105]

It’s greatest strength is also it’s greatest weakness. You opine the risk is durability. Agreed! However, the other side of that coin is expendability which is the benefit. If a $200 rain jacket tore like a $20 jacket, that’d be cause for concern. However, if a $20 jacket gets torn up, you expect it. Duct tape it till you get out of the field, recycle it, drop another $20. Not the end all be all solution for everyone. To each their own. Understand what’s required of your gear for the adventure you’ve planned and equip accordingly. Attrition will happen.

[@luboyanev]

Thanks for the review! Btw. Frogg toggs also makes another rain jacket - the Xtreme Lite, it is a little more expensive and slightly heavier, but also more durable than the Frogg Toggs Ultra-Lite2

[@sailingaeolus]

Thanks for mentioning that!

[@mikehoward8201]

I bought mine to pack on my scooter, just encase I get caught out and have to ride in the rain. I have heard that it will shred in 60 mph winds, do not know if that is true, but since my scooters top speed is 35 mph, I think it will be fine. I have used a poncho before, but was disappointed with the results, as I got soaked from the waist down, and no way to control the flapping! I am not a hiker, but expect to get some good use, when necessary, out of my 2 piece set. I also bought some knee high gaiter to keep my feet and shoes dry!

[@davidfisher12865]

That's the cheap one! They sell higher grade , far more durable still under or a little more than $100. The pro action has a roll up hood, it like being in a shed, breaks the wind that well.

[@amberwiley822]

Youre handsome

[@rage8kage]

If you're gonna go crazy with the weight savings. You'd probably like to bring some duck tape/sail tape

[@RedHanded1969]

Got it, is not for wilderness trekking.. But isnt that a given.. Not for Everest trek, but for Camino trail its probably fine..

[@nunyabinness3574]

Me: measures a cars value by the milage This guy: measures a jackets value by the milage 🤣👍🏾

[@GabagoolFool]

I got the top and bottom, both failed on me within 1 day of hiking. Ripped crotch and holes in the shoulder lol

[@alieber69]

Isn't with this weight just carry two of them .... 11.8 oz (334 gr)

[@KevinSmith-wr1sy]

I'd never go into the mountains with a $20 rain jacket. Just asking for hypothermia

[@randyholloway920]

Surprised to hear your take on the OR Helium 2. It’s my go yo jacket, never ever had it wet out.I own several of them, o problem with any of them.

[@shanedaly3153]

“I got wet because my rain coat ripped” he said while wearing shorts.

[@sytom8708]

What about the SilPoly Jacket made by Lightheart Gear? I'm very happy with mine. It Costs about 100$ and keeps you dry. Yes it doesn't even try to be breathable but I rather sweat and stay warm instead of being disappointed by a more expensive membrane jacket in which most of my sweat is trapped anyways and which wet's out sooner or later.

[@affalaffaa]

This is why, living in the U.K., I can't go overly cheap on rain jackets. Not that it rains all the time, just when it does it could be raining for a day plus if a storm comes in from the Atlantic. Went for a Berghaus Men's Deluge Light in the end and have not needed to use it. But it did save nearly 500g (1lb) from the last jacket I dragged around when, in early September, I managed to squeeze in a 117 mile hike. Love your vids and the kit reviews are very interesting as they apply, in some respect, to everyone.

[@keithstewart2639]

Thanks for the advice, you are a experienced hiker you have a lot of miles under your belt, and you know the conditions and probably what the weather might be,when you are going hiking but can be surprised sometimes,, I think most people who have hiked camped ,been on fishing trips hunting trips and outside have probably tried the Frogg Toggs,, and we all know yes they do tear easy,,, but they can be for around the house things,, ,,, but for me and most people if we are to be out hiking, more than a few days on a trail which is not too clear. We are going to have. A better rain cost ,,,,,,,, like I said thanks for the video I always learn something because you have been out there and caught and all kind of conditions

[@Chris66able]

Never heard of them.

[@davis3138]

This definitely sounds interesting. You said that people like this jacket because it can easily shed a pound just from replacing their normal rain jacket. But you also said the downside is that it rips easily. So why don't you carry two of those rain jackets? Since they are so light, it shouldn't be a big problem to have two of them. And if one rips while you're wearing it, you can always replace the one that you're wearing with the one in your backpack, or even double it up and wear one over the other, in case it starts snowing or hailing. But then, I suppose the point of it all, is that it comes back to weight. Is having two ultralight rain jackets lighter than having one more durable jacket? I guess that's a question that different people will answer differently, depending on the weight of their original jackets.

[@AlpineShenanigans]

That's not a bad idea but what I'll say is that a second jacket is just bulk, and every time that you'd go backpacking which could be 50 nights without once taking out the second jacket, you'd be like, "why am I carrying this dumb redundant bulky rain jacket that I never use" I think that it's just more streamline to buy one nicer, longer term jacket, than carrying two of these. I have a FT UL^2 btw

[@colinoliver]

what camera do you use man, this looks great!

[@AlexLopez-yv6rr]

Lol I’m wearing the same jacket as I watch the video

[@organizetheppl]

Mine ripped badly in under 50 miles 😩. But it works a whole lot better than something like a Helium for the few miles it lasts. I don't know how you keep em going for so long!

[@idrissamorehouse5776]

Ive found that managing temperature and avoiding headaches is so crucial - I feel my Marmots were a good middle ground (i buy them on sale or semi used online ) but even they only last but so long - i wonder what the best all around is for strength and lightweight-ness ??

[@rcireland]

I've always had good luck with the Marmot Precip at $100.

[@AlexLopez-yv6rr]

Just keep an extra frog togg if it’s so Leightweight

[@jamesfielden7561]

I’ve had really good luck with them.

[@JupiterHikes]

Same! Until I didn't and got really soaked and freezing. Always got small holes, and probably should have replaced it more frequently. I think my point in the video is that it's nice, just not to be fully trusted, and should be well taken care of

[@sethbeiden1305]

Love to hear your impressions of the Marmot Bantamweight Rain Jacket! That is my go-to after using the Frogg Toggs on the JMT. I travel with it, ride bikes with it, but haven't had it out for extended downpours in the mountains yet.

[@HBRDynamics]

I'm a big fan of my frogtoggs Xtreme lite. $35 at walmart and slightly more durable than the regular frogtoggs

[@pinky1494]

The issue I found with my Frogg Toggs was that since it doesn't breathe at all, it became a sauna inside while I was hiking up some hills while it was near freezing outside. My shirt inside was soaked, and that was not fun to deal with at camp with freezing temps. Since 2019 had such a rainy and cold spring on the PCT, I was really glad I replaced it :) -Ragdoll

[@lauradonofrioart]

What did you replace it with?

[@gnomechump-stiny7128]

?

[@Felix-kd8tn]

PLEASE tell me more about the tarp! I am fixated on the idea!

[@hikerJohn]

Nothing will keep you dry while you are hiking because your sweat vapor condenses of any cold surface . . . Frogg Toggs or expensive high tec fabric all get wet inside that it's not from leaking form the outside in, but from the inside out. Ive had the same Frogg Togg for 4 years of hiking the PCT (2500 miles) and to tell you the truth I've been luck to only worn it a half a dozen times. But I also carry an umbrella. I only watched to see if maybe you had more options. What about the Lightheart Gear that's only an ounce heavier. All Ive ever used is the Frogg Togg

[@JupiterHikes]

For a trail like the PCT I think it's great, as you don't have to rely on it hardly and the trail is very mostly well groomed. If those two things aren't met, the montbell versalite is very well regarded, and I use and enjoy the EE Visp. I have used an OR Helium and very much didn't like that one. Hope this gives you some ideas!

[@stuartsteele9984]

If it doesn't breathe than how can you claim it kept you dry. Hiking generates bodily warmth and perspiration. Please clarify.

[@awatt]

Back in the early nineties research in Sweden found that some fully waterproof jackets were more "breathable" than gor-tex due to their design that "vented" perspiration rather than let it pass through the material.

[@TravelTourTaste]

Hello Great video my friend its always good to know it will keep you warm and dry we hope all is well we are sorry we have not been over to you for a while but we have been very busy and then we got stuck in Malta . we are now trying to play catch up with our youtube family We hope you have a great weekend Love and Light Sarah and Glenn

[@CoderShare]

Thoughts on Frogg Toggs XTreme Lite?

[@chromedome1975]

I work outside for a living and use this jacket all the time and also take it on backpacking trips and can say it is definitely a durable jacket. I've owed both the regular and the xtreme lite and the xlite Is by far superior. I'm on two years of total abuse of this jacket and it's still going strong. Downfall is it doesn't breath at all. So you do get wet from sweat, but it's better than cold rain. Hope this helps.

[@larrydonna369]

zipper blew out very quickly

[@tjminstrel]

Why not buy 2 and carry a spare?

[@bartcornelius7717]

Dangerous??? 😂😂😂

[@LordTommygun]

You should try the more expensive (xtreme lite) model.....it is better than the classic. I'll be taking it thru the everglades in Jan.

[@lisaray6493]

I love mine

[@MaverickTube]

Great vid as usual, one thing I think is missing in a lot of gear videos is mentioning the environmental cost of the gear we use, especially on things like the frogg Toggs. Thanks for the good content.

[@thankmelater1254]

It's insanity to live in that fearful state. Banning drinking straws when everything we buy is in plastic. Insanity. The only solution if you want to maintain that form of insanity is non reproduction and suicide. I hope that because you have morals and ethics, you choose life.

[@MaverickTube]

I am not fearful, it is what it is. Buying a plastic jacket 5 times over has a cost and being aware of it is a good thing. sometimes it can't be helped and that's ok, I am not shaming outdoor enthusiasts for making certain gear choices, I just think it should be one of the factors to consider when choosing gear when options are available.

[@elizabethingram9784]

I agree, Maverick, I notice a “just throw it away” mentality in backpacking too. Which is odd because backpackers love the outdoors. :)

[@PKWeaver74]

@@thankmelater1254 Your are of course welcome to your opinion, and I'm unsure of the environmental impact of Frogg Toggs, however another opinion about living and the environment is that when we consider the short time since the industrial revolution and the impact on the planet, combined with the fact that most of the problems have solutions without significantly impacting quality of life if only we collectively demonstrated the will needed to implement them, then it's insanity to consider only our own lifetime without taking into account the world we leave for future generations. Other opinions are available as always, but fair notice: I choose to interpret aggressiveness and vitriol in any replies to my comments as the author having given up on rational debate and therefore having lost the argument. Go

[@thankmelater1254]

​@@PKWeaver74 "I'm unsure of the environmental impact of Frogg Toggs" I'm also unsure of the environmental impact and very sure they cannot measure it properly other than in a banana republic where the plastic bags for the banana bunches are everywhere. I believe corporations "facts" on how much their products help, not at all. That being the case, you can drive yourself insane over it. Or not.

[@CastlesForEyes]

Would this survive jumping in and out of a van doing home deliveries?

[@JupiterHikes]

Yeah it would be great for that!

[@CastlesForEyes]

@@JupiterHikes - Ah great. I actually ordered them before seeing your video, so was a little worried. Thanks for getting back to me 👍

[@safromnc8616]

You get what you pay for.....hopefully...

[@affalaffaa]

Buy cheap, buy twice. As someone far more wise than me was reported as saying.

[@wkw4095]

Dude! you're an avid hiker you have no reason to wear this thing. I'm going to do a Oregon/Washington loop adventure on overly groomed trails/carriage roads/pathways and I'm putting more thought than most of you guys for rain gear....actually you just sold this rain suit for me.....also, wouldn't you hikers carry a few ounces of duct tape for tears???

[@jeffreycarman2185]

I have a hard time imagining Frogg Toggs Lee anyone dry. I think that keeping dry is not actually possible in the backcountry. If something is waterproof enough to keep you dry from rain it will turn into a sauna with strenuous activity, even in cold and wet conditions.

[@chadanderson123]

You can easily fix a hole in your coat if you carry some duct tape

[@JupiterHikes]

Problem was there wasn't a visible hole, jacket went from normal to totally split all the way up the backside!

[@RC-qf3mp]

This video and the incident where Jupiter felt endangered due to hypothermia risk makes me rethink what a “luxury item” is. I have an awesome European hiking rain poncho. It’s 100% water proof, sturdy, has plenty of venting options and weighs about 15 ounces. Definitely heavier than my

[@Backpacksandtrails]

I have a Marmot Eco rain jacket I love, but am looking for something to use on a trip this coming fall where temps will get cold. I get cold very easily after I stop and am looking for something as an outer layer that will act as a wind barrier and to keep more core temp in while at camp. Do you think this would well for that? Thanks!

[@bradleycordaro]

what would you recommend then my dude??

[@AlpineShenanigans]

He says in the video that he’s using the Visp now

[@bradleycordaro]

@@AlpineShenanigans WHOOPS, missed that one. musta been sippin my coffee!!! ✌🏾

[@gentryaustin]

@@bradleycordaro Only $180 more than a Frogg Toggs!

[@thankmelater1254]

@@gentryaustin Thanks for saving me the time of checking. I'd rather get some of the tape which seals even under water, and apply a tiny patch as soon as a hole is starting. Plus carry an extra unopened jacket.

[@illegalfreedom-hr9lq]

There not that cheap anymore I paid $35 for mine

[@JupiterHikes]

I still see them on amazon for 14$ occasionally but that may be a sale price

[@IndieChapters]

It's also worth considering is how detrimental to the environment it is to keep buying new cheap jackets compared to having one quality jacket

[@z0uLess]

Good video. I suppose its sufficient when you are going on a shorter trip and the weather forecast says there wont be any rain ... in that case it could be the best gear to have in your backpack to not have to carry a heavy rain jacket.

[@rolfdenver]

This is interesting ... I just saw this 2 days after buying an Outdoor Research Helium II at the REI sale. Sorry to hear your experience of it wetting out. I also have a Frogg Toggs rain jacket, which weighs about an ounce less than the Helium II. Given that I live in Colorado, which is drier than your native Florida but is colder and has fierce winds, the Helium II might be the better choice. What are your thoughts about the Arcteryx Zeta FL - another very lightweight rain shell?

[@cielrobinson]

Replacing my 10oz Torrentshell with one of these, or at least giving it one try. Struggling to save weight without spending more than I need to. A nice pair of rain pants I have is less than 6oz

[@JRoss707]

Unless you are bushwhacking in brush or jagged boulders it should be fine. I’ve hiked many miles of the JMT with their poncho , putting it on the ground with sharp rocks and pine needles using as a tent foot print as well as rain poncho it held up well. I may get the jacket , as my tent now has 20D sil-nylon floor and I don’t think the ground cover is necessary

[@cavemandancer]

Love how you review as gear and as safety. These things will rip guaranteed. My daughter loves this jacket. She will where it anytime it rains. It is light and will keep you dry. but for me it is a heat, sweatbox and with out fail it will be ripped to shreds by days end. I carry a Mountain Hardware Rain(loosely) jacket. Thing breaths and will keep you warm and dry for about 20 minutes. I plan on my thru hike to try out a sea to summit Ultra sil nano rain poncho. We will see....

[@reneap9049]

Headed to Alaska, looking for light and warm gear fr rain & snow. Looking into Frogg Toggs. Thanks for the video!

[@RC-qf3mp]

The single best piece of clothing I ever bought is the Patagonia Granite Crest shell. Was my outer layer for temperatures down to the 20s, and rain protection and wind protection. It’s breathable and will soak through eventually on a downpour after 2 hrs or so. I wore a poncho on top during downpours and that added another layer of warmth in cold weather. The jacket has large pit zips, adjustable sleeves, a high neck guard and excellent adjustable hood (that can fit a helmet). With the neck zipped up, and a skull cap, and the hood down, only skin on my face exposed are my eyes (like a ninja). The safety issue you mentioned is real-without that jacket I could’ve gotten very sick, and definitely soaked. The jacket is lightweight and can be folded into its own pocket. It’s on the pricier side but worth every penny. Also- you could get a poncho that doubles as a tarp. Perhaps you don’t like ponchos?

[@infinitebizmedia]

I understand you're a minimalist but carrying duct tape would have solved your problem until your next resupply don't you think

[@PaulSchortemeyer]

I believe he did mention talking about taping it up... might be difficult to apply when it's wet though.

[@JupiterHikes]

I think I included a photo of my jacket, the entire backside ripped off. Duct tape is a good helpful measure but for such an essential piece of safety gear I think it's still worth saying it's not the most trustworthy item

[@infinitebizmedia]

@@JupiterHikes as a former grunt, believe me when i say duct tape can fix anything. That jacket would be a piece of cake. I fixed tents, tarps and uniforms with you should start carrying it.

[@AlexisgFay]

I’m from Alaska and I use them all summer for backpacking. If they get damaged, I can set up camp and wait out a storm. I might not use it for a thru hike though. I get small abrasions and pin holes and when I get home just dab some clear nail polish over it. I’m an experienced backpacker but not a long haul thru hiker. Works great for that.

[@larryl4881]

Have you used the female version of the men’s? I feel like it fits better IMO 🤷🏻

[@PaulSchortemeyer]

The female version of the mens?? What is that...

[@larryl4881]

@@PaulSchortemeyer no frogg togg has female version and it’s more athletic cut for a slimmer person instead of a trash bag 80s look.

[@PaulSchortemeyer]

@@larryl4881 Oh I get it now 👍. Thanks!

[@normanmitchell9536]

Frog toggs’s ! I have a love hate relationship. Really good rain gear. My issue wasn’t the performance of the jacket . I became hypothermic. We made a fire . I was so worried that the sparks from the fire would light it up . I had to retreat to my sleeping bag . Something to think about when your in the middle of nowhere.

[@ShrimsList]

Hi Jupiter, do you have any thoughts on the Montbell Versalite Jacket and how it compares to the other ones you've tried? It seems like a good compromise between features, durability, and waterproofness. Curious to hear what you think

[@nicholaslafferty3928]

Used this jacket for the past year since first seeing this video. It's been through a lot so I bought a new one the other day. I pack it on my bike and it's great to have as a windbreaker and a way to keep in heat. Last winter I raced the snow down the east coast from NY and it was raining every other day. With a poncho overtop, I was able to shake off most moisture before the night time freeze. Got a better poncho this time around which will work as a secondary lowprofile lightweight shelter. With the toggs it's possible to step away without having to dismantle the shelter. The saddle wears the seat of the pants so I'm going to try to sew or glue or tape on a pair of shorts or make some kind of chaps out of them. I appreciate your making this video so I was able to afford staying dry when it was definitely needed.

[@RiverogueLander]

Thinking about wearing a full on rain coat as apposed to a rain jacket. Even if I wet out, I still have at least some insultion in it.

[@eliasdskill5008]

Frog tog all the way for this budget hiker. I have about 700+miles on mine. Never an issue with my jacket only the legs ripping . Dry dry dry :p

[@plotnav1]

Got one as well. What do you use to keep your bottom half dry?

[@JupiterHikes]

I haven't used anything in the past, just get wet. In cold situations I'd want to bring something else like a rain kilt but none of my thru hikes has it been cold enough to bother. Shorts dry quick enough

[@chrisz.9974]

@@JupiterHikes do you only ever wear shorts?

[@patrickgardner396]

A subtext of this video is also why it's good to have a few repair items like duct tape and floss/thread with you.

[@BackcountryPilgrim]

"Everything in backpacking is a risk." Perfect!

[@MG-ze3lf]

I've tried several rain jackets and settled on the Columbia Outdry. Only con is not breathable but it's an actual rain jacket not DWR or treated.

[@wadepatton2433]

So it'll be good to throw in the golf bag for rainy days on the course I'd think.

[@janefreeman4121]

I have the monbell versalite and will save it for hikes whereas i will use my frogg toggs for everydayvwalks in the forest .

[@markevanpowell2157]

I have a BD fine line stretch.. for like 2oz more i do enjoy the durability and peace of mind.

[@skm9420]

You just can't put pressure on it when you're wearing it or else the water will Seep through. So no sitting or leaning.

[@eitansalama2921]

you should check out timmer made, he makes a rain jacket of DCF that weighs 1 ounce

[@neilwork5033]

Was researching these things. Thank you for a balanced & informative review based on actual experience.

[@allencrider]

I love my frogg toggs. I take the pants too. They make a good windbreaker and make another layer for warmth if necessary. I've taken them on the PCT and they were great. I always take duct tape when I go backpacking and if I had a tear I would be able to repair them with it.