5 Big Mistakes Beginners Make with Resin 3D Printing

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Edward Peak

Edward Peak

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@EvilMP5
@EvilMP5 Жыл бұрын
Another method I found works it's a modified Uncle Jesse quick clean. I empty the vat only leaving about 1/2 mm or less, just enough to cover the FEP film. Put a small waste part like a support in the corner for a handle. Fire up the screen clean feature if your printer has it, wait the 20 or so seconds, pull up lightly on the waste support and everything comes right out. No rubbing any FEP film been doing this for a few weeks and I have had no issues with left over resin at all.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 Жыл бұрын
I like this idea providing you can get all resin left cured that would be easier. I have been using the screen cleaning option recently and it is alot quicker and easier
@hawk8873
@hawk8873 9 ай бұрын
Oh, very good method, i've already had tiny damages on FEP by rubbing with scraper. Thank you.
@jimmysgameclips
@jimmysgameclips 3 ай бұрын
Damn, great idea
@cdude125
@cdude125 2 жыл бұрын
Tip #7 - use a leftover support structure and the "tank clean" feature on your vat. No need to empty it at all as the Fails stuck to the FEP will come off in one nice sheet.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think mine has a tank clean feature, but would it not just be the same as blasting the screen on for 30 seconds ?
@purrgenndy3158
@purrgenndy3158 2 жыл бұрын
@@edwardpeak01 You can blast the entire surface via Tools > Detection, "cleaning" function does exactly the same
@StubbsDK
@StubbsDK 2 жыл бұрын
@@edwardpeak01 I have a Photon Mono 4K, it doesn’t have that feature, but it does have a “screentest”, I think its called Detection? Just use that, choose the full screen, and give it a 15-20 second exposure! Keep in mind, if your old supports aren’t even, then they may have a bit of trouble holding on to the sheet…!
@TheFacelid
@TheFacelid 2 жыл бұрын
@@edwardpeak01 On my mono x I use the tools-exposure function. default option is 10 seconds of full screen exposure which works fine for me at 60% power. Depending on how high your power is set, you might have to tweek the exposure time
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
@@StubbsDK i will have to give this a try thankyou
@TableFlipFoundry
@TableFlipFoundry Жыл бұрын
Hey there! Great video! I have a recommendation for cleaning the fep. Rather than a microfiber tower, a silicone spatula works very very well. It will not damage the fep at all, will not leave any scratches, and doesn't require you to come in contact with the resin with your hands, less glove usage if you use disposable. Also, resin is quite good at draining itself off, if you print a stand for the vat to drain and leave it for 10 minutes or so, most times you come back to a perfectly clean fep.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 Жыл бұрын
Good suggestions I will give them a go thankyou
@whocarescamera3000
@whocarescamera3000 Жыл бұрын
im super new to this, it took me atleast five reads of your last sentence to know what you were talking about..but I figured it out!!! shopping for vat drain stands now to print next! omg I was cleaning the vat way too much..
@herculeholmes504
@herculeholmes504 Жыл бұрын
I use a silicone spatula, but then I clean the vat with IPA or ethanol... Now I'm wondering I should be doing that.
@omnito
@omnito Жыл бұрын
Really good advice. Additional tip: If you have a failed print with bits stuck to the FEP, then run it on a full screen detect for 30-45s (same as you would do for an initial layer). Drain most (no need to remove all and clear) and then peel it all off by one of the corners. It will make sure you don't leave any bits to potentially ruin the FEP on next run.
@zarni-dude
@zarni-dude 2 жыл бұрын
I'd recommend putting UV film on windows for the room you print in. Chose the clear version and you won't even notice after fitting, it's cheap enough to give that peace of mind when leaving resin about.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea, luckily I have since moved and now have a shed that doesn't have windows. But thanks for the tip I'm sure others will find that useful
@luisernestomercadochagoya9721
@luisernestomercadochagoya9721 2 жыл бұрын
Why not UV film on the printer cover?
@rb5029-h1i
@rb5029-h1i Жыл бұрын
@@luisernestomercadochagoya9721 Because you have to remove the printer cover to do everything else (cleaning, maintenance, etc). Any exposure to sunlight is potentially bad exposure.
@Juiceboxer0
@Juiceboxer0 Жыл бұрын
good idea. there's a wall of the enclosure between the window and the printer so I'll put uv stuff on that. should do the trick
@robguyatt9602
@robguyatt9602 Жыл бұрын
@@luisernestomercadochagoya9721 Aren't all printer covers opaque to UV already?
2 жыл бұрын
Another mistake is to not hollow out bigger pieces. It's easy to do in the slicer, saves a bunch of resin and actually improves reliability since having to peel off a big cross section repeatedly is a big strain on the supports.
@nortran11
@nortran11 2 жыл бұрын
Worse yet is hollowing out the parts without adding drain holes.
@stevec9315
@stevec9315 2 жыл бұрын
another problem with hollowing out are islands with no supports which will result in failed prints...
2 жыл бұрын
@@stevec9315 Hollowing does often require extra supports on the inside but you don't have to remove those and it still saves a lot or resin compared to leaving a big part full.
@tadajenkins4279
@tadajenkins4279 2 жыл бұрын
I made this mistake several times. Couldn't figure out why it wouldn't stay on the build plate. To be fair I did check to see if it was hollow, but I didn't realize that it was actually full of material. The skin was light blue and the inside was dark so I thought "that's a cavity". Oops.
@tadajenkins4279
@tadajenkins4279 2 жыл бұрын
@@nortran11 Wait, I'm supposed to have drain holes? But where? If I put them on the bottom most of the stuff I'm printing would come out looking weird. I've never seen any of the models printed on these videos have holes even the big ones that would have to be hollow. More google searches for me I guess. Glad I came to the comments and found this though. Thanks!
@martina.8720
@martina.8720 2 жыл бұрын
When leveling, the paper should slide with mild resistance, not be firm. This is to take into account for the FEP film. If the paper is tight and doesn't move, you're likely struggling to remove prints from the build plate. You also risk damage to your screen/FEP if there are any fragments in the tank.
@matic1265
@matic1265 2 жыл бұрын
yea he is doing a tutorial on KZbin and doesn't even know that
@xerxis100
@xerxis100 2 жыл бұрын
The way I always heard it is that you should be able to pull on the paper and have it move but you should not be able to push it back. I've always leveled like that and never had problems
@robguyatt9602
@robguyatt9602 2 жыл бұрын
The difference in Z height between the paper being super tight and movable is insignificant compared to the thickness of the film. The film is typically 0.1mm to 0.15 mm thick. The typical printer paper used is 0.1mm thick. What you are suggesting just makes the effective thickness of the paper just 0.11mm thick.
@mosqueraaa
@mosqueraaa 2 жыл бұрын
@@robguyatt9602 is not insignificant when we are talking about 0.05 layers , that can make a difference on you fk Up the screen or the fep wich can make a mess
@robguyatt9602
@robguyatt9602 2 жыл бұрын
@@mosqueraaa Sorry but you clearly did not understand what I wrote. What is insignificant is the vertical distance between tight paper just movable paper. That difference is a small fraction of the layer height. I've been professionally printing production parts for my products parts for almost 2 years. All parts are printed on the build plate without supports so the calibration of the Z axis is critical for dimensional accuracy within production tolerances. By the way, in all my time I have never damaged the NFEP or screen of any of my printers during calibration. I frankly can't see how that can be done. But idiots will always find a way.
2 жыл бұрын
I have so far never leveled my printer. It was good out of the box and worked since then. Even if you do have a failed print many printers have a clean up function which just exposes the whole bottom and creates a film that should catch anything on the FEP. Just leave it to settle, stick a raft with supports from a previous print in the corner, run the clean up function and pull it up by the supports.
@FAB1150
@FAB1150 Жыл бұрын
Yeah haven't leveled mine in three years lol
@alexberridge8182
@alexberridge8182 2 жыл бұрын
I'd definitely recommend the cleaning station - i've seen adhoc methods of some people setting up their own stations, but the Elagoo Yellow one that i've got is so simple and works. In one box you can cure models as it rotates and clean models in a vat of your chosen cleaning solution (i use alcohol).
@Dan-yk6sy
@Dan-yk6sy 2 жыл бұрын
They look nice, but plastic pickling jars are super cheap and can store ISO, set outside in the sun, etc. Size options are limited though.
@szametha
@szametha 2 жыл бұрын
For 1st stage cleaning I use a stainless steel bottle cooler inside a 15L plastic paint bucket with lid against fumes & spilling and for storing my cleaning brushes. I stir manually with thick household cleaning gloves and count to 100-150. The gloves are perfectly reusable for dozens of times with some sensible handling protocol. Very efficient, much less contaminated polymer waste and no need for powered gadgetry.
@MaskMan191
@MaskMan191 Жыл бұрын
@@Dan-yk6sy Sitting in the sun can take days to properly cure if it's cloudy.
@geoffok
@geoffok 8 ай бұрын
I followed the instructions that came with my Mars 3 Pro and haven't had any problems at all. Been printing nonstop for a few weeks now
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 8 ай бұрын
Great 👍
@fepatton
@fepatton Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making me feel better about leaving resin in the vat for long periods! 😂 hasn’t given me any trouble yet even though I use it infrequently.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 Жыл бұрын
Your welcome and join the club I literally never empty mine
@TheLoneLlama
@TheLoneLlama 5 ай бұрын
Really great video, I print all the time but try to watch videos like this from time to time just to review the basics. Had never thought about not needing IPA to clean the fep sheet! That is going to save me a lot of IPA!
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 5 ай бұрын
Thankyou and yes personally I like to avoid using it as much as possible. For money and also safety reasons
@dieselhead24
@dieselhead24 10 ай бұрын
Electric heater belt brilliant idea and I even have one in the cupboard!
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 10 ай бұрын
It's the cheapest and easiest way I've found 😁
@herrbona7095
@herrbona7095 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff! Might have to try that fermentation belt trick once winter comes around, tends to get a bit chilly where I live.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, so far I've found it to be the cheapest and easiest option. Depending on how your printers cover works you can cut a little chunk out of it for the wire to go through which makes the lid fit on alot neater
@nategilstrap4317
@nategilstrap4317 2 жыл бұрын
​@@edwardpeak01do you have a link to the fermentation belt you are using? I love this idea and have a Photon M3 plus which has basically the same vat as yours. Cheers!
@Rokmononov
@Rokmononov 2 жыл бұрын
Some good tips here! But a few clarifications too: 1. IPA doesn't react with FEP. It's not going to damage anything or cause cloudiness unless it's terrible quality. Something else in your process probably did that, not the IPA. 2. Depending on the resin you use, you may not want to leave it there even if you technically can. Some (most) resins will settle over time and will not give you the stated isotropic properties if you then print with them without mixing.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou, good points I'll add a little disclaimer in the description
@noway8233
@noway8233 2 жыл бұрын
I have a vat for moths , if i want to print, first i check fep integrity , and move the resin mixing the again with the spatula,anycubic photon mono x
@the_omg3242
@the_omg3242 2 жыл бұрын
I clean up my vat after each print session and find it pretty quick. After dumping the resin back into the bottle I use a spray bottle to put some IPA in the vat and slosh it around like I'm panning for gold. Then I hold it over a container and spray it clean without touching it. Probably don't use more than 100ml of IPA and I buy that in 4L jugs. This keeps the resin clean and away from sunlight, lets me inspect the FEP before the next print session and test for leaks by putting it on a paper towel and using clean IPA to look for leaks, and it lets me warm and shake the resin before the next print session. Takes maybe 15 minutes for the cleanup and I can do that while I'm waiting on the timers for the wash and cure. Also, if your only workbench is in front of a window, why don't you just tape some tinfoil over it and use a light? Would solve your unwanted curing issue.
@majorair1
@majorair1 2 жыл бұрын
@@the_omg3242 like you hold it upside down and spray upwards into the vat with IPA, over a trashcan?
@the_omg3242
@the_omg3242 2 жыл бұрын
@@majorair1 Actually I hold it vertical and let it drain into a tupperware container. I then use a UV flashlight to cure the resin into a gel, scoop it out with a strainer and put it in the sun to harden so I can throw it away. You can also spray in a bit while you hold the vat horizontal then slosh it around a bit to dissolve resin before going vertical for the final few spritzes with the spray bottle. You end up with a tupperware container full of somewhat contaminated IPA, but it doesn't take that much to spray out the vat when cleaning it. If you're buying IPA by the 4 liter jug for washing, cleaning the vat is a very tiny portion of it. I probably use less than 50ml on cleanup of the vat and build plate, but you want a sprayer that can do a nice hard spray of mist. (like you'd use on plants) I've also heard of people curing the contaminated IPA and straining it through cheesecloth then using it for a prewash dip to keep your wash solution cleaner.
@xionmercgames9887
@xionmercgames9887 Жыл бұрын
The hammer at the end killed me. 😂Great tips. I’ve wondered how often I should be cleaning. I’ve definitely been doing more than necessary.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, as you can see from this comment section nothing is set in stone and there's alot of debate over it but personally I only clean if something goes wrong
@robmcc1403
@robmcc1403 Жыл бұрын
Dude thank you. Seriously video is underrated for you're every day man.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 Жыл бұрын
You are welcome, I'm glad you enjoyed it
@camchu2272
@camchu2272 10 күн бұрын
This was extremely helpful, I’m so use to pla printers so this is very useful knowledge,
@the_arcanum
@the_arcanum 2 жыл бұрын
Holy cow! That fermentation belt idea to heat up the resin in the vat is awesome! I'm stealin it for my printers that have aluminium vats. I'll keep the PFC heater for those with plastic ones. Many thanks.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
You are most welcome
@ageary07
@ageary07 2 жыл бұрын
All these were super important and nobody mentioned it. I almost quit because so much cleaning and the printer being cold. I got a terranium pad for this but your solution looks much better
@thrrax
@thrrax 2 жыл бұрын
I only emptied the tank at the beginning. Then really left resin in there for about a year until I started printing again. Just added some more resin, stirred it up a bit to become more homogenous, and started printing with no issues whatsoever. The printer was also placed inside its original box, where I'd usually keep it when I wasn't printing.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
I've had alot of people complain that resin can't be left in the vat but I've had the same experience as this and never had any issues. What resin do you use?
@CapitalNick
@CapitalNick 2 жыл бұрын
IPA has never clouded up my fep. If anything, wiping the fep puts micro scratches in it. That not only degrades the fep and eventually fogs it up itself, but also makes the print more likely to hold on during the retract. Which in turn degrades the fep even further.
@PolygonSwan
@PolygonSwan 2 жыл бұрын
Use a non lint cloth too.
@WardenOfTerra
@WardenOfTerra 2 жыл бұрын
Degrade? It's literally plastic. You'd have to be doing something seriously wrong to degrade a FEP sheet.
@krzysztofczarnecki8238
@krzysztofczarnecki8238 2 жыл бұрын
@@WardenOfTerra It's pretty soft, I used toilet paper to clean it, but it is not as clear as it used to be because of a lot of tiny scratches. I now use a silicone spatula to scoop all the resin out until there is as little left as possible, and then use the toilet paper. With soap and water, because that is cheaper than IPA. Will consider using microfibre, but when I figure out how to get resin out of microfibre. I am not buying a new microfibre cloth every single time I clean out the vat.
@smoll.miniatures
@smoll.miniatures 2 жыл бұрын
@@WardenOfTerra 😂 you clearly don’t have a 3D printer. You can fuck up your fep easily.
@Slajar196
@Slajar196 Жыл бұрын
@@krzysztofczarnecki8238 You can cut a cloth and use only a piece of it. And you can clean it in a cleaning station with IPA. Works fine for me. I think toilet paper can do a lot of little scratches...
@MatthewAdlard
@MatthewAdlard 2 жыл бұрын
Would add getting an angled usb extender cable. (30cm/12") it fits with a down profile to the printer and you plug the USB stick into that. As damage to both is very easy when you catch them or constant plugging in ur out.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm I like the sound of that might have to get myself one
@enginepy
@enginepy 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a good idea. I’m always accidentally hitting the usb during a print and it stops the print and can’t resume.
@sittingduck6049
@sittingduck6049 Жыл бұрын
I've got a large roasting tray where is do all my clean up, support removing etc, it's amazing how messed up it gets even when I'm being careful. It's all contained so is easy to clean. Another tip go to one of those bulk buy places and buy a bulk load of kitchen roll, I go through tissue paper like a teenage boy ;)
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 Жыл бұрын
The roasting tray is a good one and you can never have enough kitchen roll
@SlicePrintRoleplay
@SlicePrintRoleplay 2 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the shout out! Definitely a lot of great tips here! As for me saying you can use 3 (roughly playing card) pieces of microfiber cloth. I should definitely have been more clear that I was talking about standard size resin printers. So a vat roughly half the size of the one you're using. You'll definitely need more for lager vats like the Mono X. Keep up the great work!
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the kind words. As for the microfiber cloths, that'll explain why I'm using so many cloths 😂 your method was really helpful for me when I first got into printing. So thankyou for that.
@SlicePrintRoleplay
@SlicePrintRoleplay 2 жыл бұрын
@@edwardpeak01 glad to hear that you found the video helpful. Best of luck with your channel!
@jakobrandall2293
@jakobrandall2293 9 ай бұрын
Honestly I’ve found great success designating a “wet” and “dry” towel to use for fep cleaning. Using the wet with ipa to go in and clean everything off and gut the bulk of it down, then going back over everything to agitate and lift the layer of ipa that causes the cloudiness, and then essentially buffering it with the dry cloth till clear. Can be pretty time consuming at times, but it works
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 9 ай бұрын
That's very similar to what I currently do
@markthecruel1055
@markthecruel1055 2 жыл бұрын
Invest in a silicone spatula for clean up and use reflective tank lagging to block daylight or buy a seedling starter tent to fit the printer and block light.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
The spatulas a good idea. Luckily I now have a shed with no windows
@willwyatt7023
@willwyatt7023 2 ай бұрын
Love the heater idea.
@digimaks
@digimaks 8 ай бұрын
1:18 - depends. If you are in dry climate - the resin might form a hard shell on the surface.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 8 ай бұрын
Have you had this happen? I've a heard a few whispers about it being possible but never experienced it myself (live in UK not dry)
@Weaver_Games
@Weaver_Games 5 ай бұрын
I'm planning on putting a printer in my cold cellar since it's unused and already has 4" vent holes. In the winter it hits 0c or below, I'm not leaving resin in there to freeze and I'm not leaving a heating box on all winter either for it.
@surrogatpappan
@surrogatpappan Ай бұрын
​@@Weaver_Gamesif your cold cellar has a higher humidity point it might damage your printer over time. Keep it dry, but not to dry.
@larkuel
@larkuel 2 жыл бұрын
nice job. Well made video. Took a while for me to learn that you only had to clean the tank after failures or whatever too.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou, i will say I've got alot of stick for saying not to clean out the tank. Personally I tend to leave resin in as I use it often and don't really see the point in emptying each time. However if I leave it for months on end like atm in winter it is emptied out as the resin fumes can cause issues in the long run.
@lesthegringo
@lesthegringo 2 жыл бұрын
On the subject of temperature - I live in Qatar and if the temperature goes over 30 degrees where you are printing, the prints become very brittle and will break apart rather tnhan releasing from the build plate. As a result I moved the printer (Mono X) to an airconditioned room and keep the temperature at 24 to 25 degrees. Another point is that IPA is not available here, and I ended up using a 70 ethyl alcohol solution that is available for cleaning the tank and lacquer thinners for the parts. Very smelly, but for those that can't get IPA it works well and is actually cheaper
@noquedaniuno
@noquedaniuno 2 жыл бұрын
im from mexico, and im having problems getting IPA here. When you say lacquer thinner, do you mean the one used for thinning paint?
@the_arcanum
@the_arcanum 2 жыл бұрын
@@noquedaniuno Lacquer thinner is a useful solvent but it's way too harsh. And a more dangerous one to handle in big volumes than IPA. Do you have access to methylated spirits in Mexico ? The other way would be to go the degreaser way and use US industrial detergents like Simple Green or LA Simply Awesome. I've been told they work really well.
@donniem7979
@donniem7979 Жыл бұрын
Exquisite video. Leaves a good space for us newbies to add more findings as well. Earned my sub!
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 Жыл бұрын
Thankyou and welcome aboard
@thejoester
@thejoester 2 жыл бұрын
For #2, I actrually use a rubber or silicone squeegee to clear 99% of the FEP and then if I feel I need to, microfiber on the edges but not usually.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
I like this idea seems alot less wasteful does it not catch on the FEP at all ?
@thejoester
@thejoester 2 жыл бұрын
@@edwardpeak01 I have used the same FEP for 18 months now and the reason I think is that "touch" it as little as possible. Same color resin and only using the squeegee when absolutely needed
@kilgoretrout4461
@kilgoretrout4461 Жыл бұрын
@@edwardpeak01 nope, the silicone squeegee, the kind you get inside a lot of scren protectors, works perfect for cleaning your fep. It slick enough not to drag, but tight enough it easily removes the resin.
@jorgelorenzotorres3088
@jorgelorenzotorres3088 Жыл бұрын
Bro, the fuking FIRST tip is just what I've been searching to listen to in internet since 3 weeks ago.. THANKS!
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 Жыл бұрын
You are very welcome 😁
@RobertKaucher
@RobertKaucher Жыл бұрын
New to resin printing and thank you for the point about leaving the resin. I had wondered about this and I had even said to myself after my first print, "It's not like it's milk..."
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 Жыл бұрын
😂 I'm glad you found this helpful. I will mention because I've had so many comments saying that you are not supposed to leave resin. Mine is fine it's anycubic eco grey and I leave it for a month or so without changing however many people have said it'll damage the printer if you do this because of the fumes. I haven't experienced this but to be on the safe side if you are going to not be using it for over a couple of weeks maybe empty it
@EphyMusicOfficial
@EphyMusicOfficial 9 ай бұрын
I live in Cali but it can get fairly cold in my garage. Other than lubricating the shaft of my printer, the only real thing I do is add extra wait times in my prints to account for the increased viscosity. At least for now. This seems to work most times. It makes a slower print, yes, but at least I get good prints nearly every time.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 9 ай бұрын
No way of heating ? If that's working for you great but I've always found everything works better warmer
@FAB1150
@FAB1150 Жыл бұрын
Tip #8 - resin is gonna get everywhere. No no no, I know you're careful, and tidy, and all that. Cover your workbench in towels anyways, because it doesn't care how careful you are. It's gonna get everywhere
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 Жыл бұрын
This is true my new setup uses many towels
@Dan-yk6sy
@Dan-yk6sy 2 жыл бұрын
Not too many prints in yet, but if I took the build plate off by using the top knob, the prints after didn't want to stick to the build plate until leveled again. If I take the prints off without removing the build plate I haven't had issues with the next print coming off the plate. I tighten the 4 allen screws as much as I dare, looks to be all aluminum.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
It must be becoming unlevel each time you take it off but it's strange for it to happen that easier. I knock mine about a bunch when taking prints off and rarely re level it but I do go pretty mad with the tightening
@p4cca
@p4cca 2 жыл бұрын
That fermentation belt is a genius idea!! I've already set up a heating element in the printer but that is a way better idea.
@hikaru9624
@hikaru9624 2 жыл бұрын
Yet to start printing in resin and I'm glad I chose it's "forever room" as it were that has a sliding door closet that has a desk built in there... Oh and there is only one window in the room too that I can shut off with the blinds and curtains cause I live in the Highlands and thus don't like the sun (the giant ball in the sky that is. Not the news paper).
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect environment for it, the added bonus of it being not in the garden shed so it'll be at room temp not freezing. I went to the Highlands earlier this year and I remember thinking what a great place it would be to just relax and make things.
@hikaru9624
@hikaru9624 2 жыл бұрын
@@edwardpeak01 until the midgies come out but thankfully that's only during summer. I dare not use the shed or garage due to dust and the aforementioned cold you brought up. Only downside that I can think of will be the fumes but idk how bad that will be. My resin printer is a anycubic photon as I heard good things about it. Just need to get a cleaning station and what not before I eventually dive into making mini figures. Also need to find a better home for my fdm printers but I digress.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
@@hikaru9624 personally I probably wouldn't use my resin printer inside (photon mono x with anycubics eco resin) but alot of people will just have it in there office and vent the room. Different resins give off various smells but anycubics eco doesn't give off much. But definitely at the least contain the fumes and vent them out we don't know what long term effects they may have.
@hikaru9624
@hikaru9624 2 жыл бұрын
@@edwardpeak01 oh absolutely! I grew up with a family of smokers and I'm convinced I'm now paying for it in my 30's. I'll definitely vent the room after each use while trying to stop the spread as best as I can when it's being used (and use the appropriate safety gear). I live remotely in a cottage so I don't have much choice but to use my house. I mean it's the house or the dusty garage that has all my tools, petrol for the mowers and my car. I'm curious what air purifiers will also help with resins printers? I mean proper ones, not the nice smelly ones. Semi professional ones would probably do the trick (harmless at worst anyway).
@Infernoblade1010
@Infernoblade1010 2 жыл бұрын
As far as cleaning, I've simply used a paper towel. I've never had any issues doing this at all. I also recommend a flexible build plate! It's save me so much time and pain scraping my prints off the bed. I have one on my mono x and I can't imagine printing without it anymore. With leveling, I just loosen all my screws up, let it home all the way down, flatten it out, then tighten up and keep it flat, and once done raise it .2mm and you're good.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
Paper towel on the FEP??? Hmmm flexible plate might be a good investment which one do you use ?
@blitzwin17
@blitzwin17 2 жыл бұрын
@@edwardpeak01 I just bought the Wham Bam flexible sheets a few days ago. The ones on Amazon are cheaper but seem kinda dodgy given the reviews
@CaptainSkullDemon
@CaptainSkullDemon 3 ай бұрын
This helped me fix a leveling issue I made by accident. Thanks! 😅
@theshrew2804
@theshrew2804 3 ай бұрын
I’m late but just to footstomp leaving resin. Mine sat in the reservoir for over a year and was completely fine. Stir it up really well for about 10-15 minutes and it’ll print just fine. No need to waste money or make a mess :) Also, get a respirator. Those fumes are gnarly
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 3 ай бұрын
Agreed or tho I will say I have a few comments claim that leaving the resin in has destroyed things, so potentially some brands could do this although I've never come across one
@ggfrt96
@ggfrt96 2 жыл бұрын
confirmed all of the things i was thinking or concerned about in advance; it's been very helpful
@shaikhojudikhalaf9170
@shaikhojudikhalaf9170 5 ай бұрын
Hi thank you so much, this has been so helpful - how do i heat the resin?
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 5 ай бұрын
Hello, I'm glad it has been helpful. Best way I've found is to wrap a fermentation belt around the resin vat
@solidkreate5007
@solidkreate5007 Жыл бұрын
I left my resin in my tank for a year. It became translucent black but after I stirred it up it was like new. Just printed a a Bulbasaur for my Daughter.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 Жыл бұрын
Just did a similar thing with my new printer, it had a cover on the vat but same story
@PKS5Official
@PKS5Official 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for point 5 because I have 4 FDMs and on those you want the paper to move slightly so you probably saved me some money
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 5 ай бұрын
Alot of people have commented that you want to move slightly on resin printers as well, however I can safely safe I also have it so the paper doesn't move
@krzysztofczarnecki8238
@krzysztofczarnecki8238 2 жыл бұрын
My beginner first mistakes: Letting a tiny amount of clear resin seep under the vat unnoticed and harden on next use. Good luck removing that! Cleaning the printing LCD surface with acetone. This makes the polarizer permanently cloudy (I thought it has glass on top of it. It doesn't.). I buffed it for hours with chrome polishing paste, so it was somewhat clear again, and it printed almost as good as new. I later bought a new screen. Not using gloves and breathing the air with the smell produced when the resin cures or is printed. At first, nothing happened to me. For more than a month. But the allergizing effect is cumulative. Now I get a month-long skin rash from a tiny drop of the resin left on my skin, using it a lot through very thick rubber (not latex, actual >1mm thick rubber) gloves, or maybe it's just the fumes now. Anyway, I use my resin printer very rarely now because of that, went back to FDM almost entirely. Also, I don't want to end up growing a tail or a third hand because of that stuff. Getting my desk soiled with 3D resin. Now I'm allergic to my desk, no matter how many times I clean it or blast it with UV light to make the remaining resin harden and become inert. I use a full-desk mousepad now to isolate myself from it to avoid buying a new desk. Reusing IPA for cleaning many prints. This makes your prints sticky and whitened when cured with a UV lamp. Same for using soap and water to clean prints. IPA is just so expensive when it is single-use. Trying to remove resin from used IPA with UV, in a plastic bottle, in my bathroom. The resin did come out of the solution, but so did the terrible odour that remained for a few days, and was highly allergenic. Also, the white HDPE plastic bottle seems to decompose from the UV. Definitely do this outdoors in a glass bottle or better yet, a flat metal tray lit up with UV from the top. Using soap and water to clean prints that are supposed to be clear. They will definitely become white when dried. If they are supposed to be white/frosted anyway, go ahead and save some money. Using denaturated ethanol (clear, not purple of course) instead of IPA to make cleaning cheaper without checking if it contains MEK, bad smelling additives, or acetone. Find a brand that has less obtrusive additiives before you buy more than a liter of it. Getting resin on the rubber knob of my 3D printer that holds the build plate to the Z axis. Now the knob is permanently sticky, since the resin reacted with it. It cleans off with the rubber. Don't add glow-in-the-dark powder to clear resin. The few first layers, which is usually just supports, will glow intensely (almost all the powder ends up there). The rest will almost not glow, but the resin will contain enough of the powder to be infuriatingly crunchy and hard to clean out of the vat.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting what you say about becoming allergic, personally I dress like I'm working in a meth lab when printing because I'm paranoid but never thought too much into what would happen if I didn't wear protective gear. How long were you exposed to the resin before you became allergic?
@krzysztofczarnecki8238
@krzysztofczarnecki8238 2 жыл бұрын
@@edwardpeak01 Hard to tell, about a month or two of 1-2 prints per week, more than that in first two weeks.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
@@krzysztofczarnecki8238 that's not that much exposure I thought you were gunna say you did it every day. Do you think you'll get back into resin in the future ? I got myself an fdm recently and its so much easier and cleaner but it's got nothing on the detail of resin
@krzysztofczarnecki8238
@krzysztofczarnecki8238 2 жыл бұрын
@@edwardpeak01 I think I will, but I will avoid being in the same room as th printer when it's printing. Also the first two weeks or so were like a few prints per day, as I had to get the hang of it. Then I just printed what I wanted to print, as cleaning is a lot of fuss. FDM just doesn't have that step, which is why I use it for when I do not need that much detail. And I usually don't, but for stuff like figurines or small mechanisms SLA is much better.
@fabianchavez8219
@fabianchavez8219 Жыл бұрын
I put a spray nozzle on my IPA and spray the print as needed instead of bathing it... Cleans the print without tainting and wasting tons of IPA
@darrengaither3428
@darrengaither3428 2 ай бұрын
So I live in an apt ( flat) with a Balcony, I bought an encloser and print on the Balcony. it keeps the sun off of it ( also help it faces North so we dont get direct sunlight) and helps maintan heat. I have only leveled it once and its been solid. I do have empty my Vat everytime or the Resin I use ( Anycubic) will start to harden. I did make the mistake of using ISP to clean the vat as I didnt know about the Vat cleaning function, know I dont worry about it. I have a Anycubic 6ks when replacing the FEP the sheet I found that it will stretch over time and prints will fail, when tightening the sheet down I just do it slightly till the screws bottom out. Do this has kept the sheet nice and tight till mu printer tells me its time to change it.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 ай бұрын
The printer tells you when you need to change the fep? That's pretty cool. I'm surprised you have had success on a balcony mostly because I'd be worried about the sunlight even if not direct
@naminus9080
@naminus9080 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man! Will certainly try that fermentation belt trick. The temperature has always been a bottleneck for my resinprinting.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou , for me I struggled getting any prints before finding out the belt trick. Hope it helps
@the_arcanum
@the_arcanum 2 жыл бұрын
@@edwardpeak01 Following your advice, I'm planning to install the same gizmo. I suppose you keep track of the temp of the heating belt with a thermostat plug and temp sensor . How do you stick the sensor to the vat frame ?
@lesroquel
@lesroquel Жыл бұрын
Tip for FEP sheet tightness: Use a plastic soda bottle twist cap under the FEP sheet as you place it on the Bracket that holds it, it will give you enough slack to tighten it down perfectly on the vat, after tightening tap it with your finger and if it sounds like a drum you're good.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 11 ай бұрын
Good tips
@ScottKernaghan
@ScottKernaghan 2 жыл бұрын
Couple of things: Tried leaving resin in the vat for long periods before, and this ended badly... very badly. I wouldn't leave it for more than about a week. There's a reason the bottles are brown and sealed. Also, your fep clouding is not due to the IPA on the fep. It is due to the IPA on a small layer of resin still on your fep. You would achieve a better result just cleaning your fep properly then rubbing it over with the same microfibre cloth, instead of chopping it up - a process I use all the time. The microfibre cloth can be washed, But you soaked microfibre cloth pieces are useless once used and just add nastiness to landfill.
@darkshadowsx5949
@darkshadowsx5949 2 жыл бұрын
i've left my resin in the vat for a whole year and nothings happened to it. still prints fine. i have black out curtains on my window. i agree the ipa does nothing to the FEP. plus if your not cleaning it out often there isn't much to worry about anyway. using microfiber cloth is a waste. paper towel will suffice. i've had my printer for 4 years and only changed the FEP twice. one of those times was only because i accidentally put a hole in it.
@HQBunker
@HQBunker 2 жыл бұрын
@@darkshadowsx5949 I've heard paper will scratch fep. Cleaning my glassess mostly with paper tissue, or tshirt... it is surprising how much those things can scratch surfaces.
@Becvar80
@Becvar80 2 жыл бұрын
Washing anything that has resin in it is just as bad as washing resin down the drain. Once it's soaked with resin, the only proper way to deal with it is disposal.
@majorair1
@majorair1 2 жыл бұрын
what is the "proper" way to clean the fep?
@Ipsissimus
@Ipsissimus 2 жыл бұрын
@@darkshadowsx5949 Paper definitely scratches the FEP. I know, I've done it a few times with different papers.
@stephenschroeder6567
@stephenschroeder6567 Жыл бұрын
I know nothing about 3D printing, but I am trying to learn from all these video presentations. Reading through the comments is literally a foreign language regarding terminology and processes. I am fast approaching retirement and am looking for a good hobby/pastime that complements my interest in model making and the comic book universe(s?) LOL Thank you for your video.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 Жыл бұрын
Your are welcome, enjoy your new hobby 😁
@Smokinjoewhite
@Smokinjoewhite 4 ай бұрын
For ages I just covered my vat with a piece or cardboard I cut out to size. I eventually modled and printed a cover on one of my FDM printers when the cardboard started to look a bit tatty. It served me perfectly well and I almost never poured off or cleaned my vat. Your FEP sheets last so much longer the less you interfere with them.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 4 ай бұрын
This is the way
@Svorty
@Svorty 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, "the don't clean after every print" pring is something that came to me after many, many times of printing and I truly do feel dumb for it. Good video, for begginers and intermediate as well. 6.5 should be "always use the ******* PPE" as I've already seen way too many experienced users handle the wet resing pretty freely without any real protection. 7 imo should be "clean your damn workplace" Question on the side: why not just use simple curtains/blinders in the garage? Lack of light for work?
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou. Not cleaning up after every print took me a long time to realise also. I agree I've seen alot of people not use PPE when recording for aesthetic reasons which I understand but it sets a bad example. Response on the side: the video was recorded at my parents garage which is a bit of mess in general and putting up curtains or blinds would be tricky, I also wouldn't have much faith it would block enough light. I have now moved out and my new place has a little shed which I have converted into a printing area. Its 100% better than how I used to do it. I have a video about it coming out soon
@Kini51
@Kini51 Жыл бұрын
If I level my printer so tight that I can't move it, I got issues. I lift the plate, so the paper just bearly can move. I do the same with my cnc mill. It's not much (maybe it doesn't really make a difference) but for me it's better this way.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 Жыл бұрын
I have heard this but for me I level it really tight so the paper doesn't move, bare in mind I'm not pulling it that hard. Then I find I don't have to level it again till it goes wrong
@vindik8or
@vindik8or 2 жыл бұрын
Denatured alcohol/methylated spirits won't cloud your FEP. I've found it all around nicer to use and a lot cheaper than IPA. I've found that I only have to warm my resin at the start of printing. After that the curing reaction is exothermic and along with the heat from the UV lights it can keep itself warm enough. I do live in Australia, so take what I say with that particular grain of salt.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
Ive seen a few people mentioning denatured alcohol so might have to give that a try in my cleaning station. I'm surprised you have to warm the resin at all if you are in Australia, I think I felt a cool breeze once when I was there and that was in Melbourne at night in "winter".
@321357w
@321357w 2 жыл бұрын
@@edwardpeak01 must have been a warm winter as it cant get below -1C 35 km west of Melbourne where I live lol
@Scarlet_King387
@Scarlet_King387 3 ай бұрын
I've been having a problem with my 3d printer where it keeps pushing the plate down like at the beginning of the video 0:00 to 0:13 any help would be greatly appreciated.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 3 ай бұрын
As in it just continuously presses down?
@Kojak0
@Kojak0 2 жыл бұрын
Another tip which I had to find out the hard way: use some kind of lubricant on the FPE. When I began, it didn't matter how I set my lift times, I still had resin sticking to the FEP, and I couldn't figure out why. Now I use a very small amount of a WD-40 equivalent and nothing sticks any longer.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
This is true I put some PFTE lube every time i have to clean out the vat
@Delta9Church
@Delta9Church 2 жыл бұрын
I used to do this as a sort of ritual and then I just kind of stopped and it never impacted my prints. I think I got better at leveling and all that jazz and the proverbial glue stick on the bed became unnecessary.
@ditto9300
@ditto9300 2 жыл бұрын
you probably have scratches in your fep. Clean with IPA and inspect closely. If you do you should buy a new one.
@sittingduck6049
@sittingduck6049 Жыл бұрын
there are some ...ahem.... intimate silicone lubes. a little bit goes a looooong way. I just shake the bottle then dab my finger over the top and that tiny bit is plenty
@fabianchavez8219
@fabianchavez8219 Жыл бұрын
I put a spray nozzle on my IPA and spray prints as needed instead of bathing them. Sometimes I use an old toothbrush to get leftover resin completely off before curing. Uses a fraction of IPA compared to bathing prints
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 Жыл бұрын
I have done this too a little bit. Although I feel like it isn't as effective as my washing station
@herculeholmes504
@herculeholmes504 Жыл бұрын
Be careful with flammability issues; you don't want to aerosolize IPA if you can help it! I mainly just put the parts in a sealed container and swish/shake them, but I also do something similar to you; I use a large measuring syringe (250ml I think) and - submersed - squirt the IPA into the nooks and crannies. Mini jet-washing.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 Жыл бұрын
@@herculeholmes504 I've taken to doing a similar trick. Outside of the accidental flame thrower issue, it's also putting something into the air you don't want to breath in even with a mask
@chrchboi2320
@chrchboi2320 2 жыл бұрын
5:05 “Like the smash button” if anyone didn’t notice lol
@scottmedcalf4475
@scottmedcalf4475 Жыл бұрын
There may be one error in your advise, it depends on the actual resin that you are using. Formlabs resins definitely have a rated shelf life. According to formlabs most of the engineering resins have a 12 month life span which can be improved to a degree if the resin is stored in the cartridge rather than the build tank. I made the mistake of buying a large stock of various resins that I did not try to use aside from the standard modeling resin before I was informed of this aspect 8 months later. by the time I got around to changing to some of the other resins many had become less efficient and contributed to many failed prints. Particularly the flexible resins. a particularly expensive mistake.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 Жыл бұрын
You may be right, I did ad a note in the description a while ago that different resins will yield different results but overall I've not had an issue
@10p6
@10p6 Жыл бұрын
Tip 6. When removing prints, pour a kettle full of boiling water over the back plate (not print) then it will be massively easier to remove the print.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 Жыл бұрын
I don't normally have an issue getting them off the plate but I do use warm water to soften up the supports on the model itself
@Luova3D
@Luova3D Жыл бұрын
Making things over complicated
@Nadrojian1551
@Nadrojian1551 7 ай бұрын
I have an anycubic m3 max and I left the resin in there for a few months and the powder coating of the tray flaked off into the resin even before this though I have a consistent layer shift that I cant get rid of about 2-3 mm into the print I'm ordering a new tray but I tried printing in the old one till I got the new tray and other than the first print which only had a single print fail because of orientation every print since has failed at about the 10 mm mark for larger prints and the 1-2 mm mark for smaller prints. can anyone think of a way to fix this?
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 6 ай бұрын
I think I might need to ask you some more questions and have more people look at this issue. I have a discord community with a bunch of 3D printers who will probably be more helpful than me as I'm not that familiar with this issue. If you'd like to join the community and post in the troubleshooting section, I'm sure someone will be able to help you discord.com/invite/KFwg9CxRmk
@ScytheNoire
@ScytheNoire 2 жыл бұрын
#10 Exposure time is critical to dial in to get the best results based on the resin you are using. Keep a log for resin-machine results. Use a good exposure testing tools that are not subjective, such as The Cones of Calibration.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
This is a good addition
@flynnfittz
@flynnfittz Жыл бұрын
About cleaning the tank, I had some resin sitting on my printer for at the very least six months and just printed a model today. No problems whatsoever.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 Жыл бұрын
I never empty mine unless something goes wrong, apparently some resin's can't be left for a long time but I've never used a resin which had that problem
@JoeFlamenco
@JoeFlamenco 2 жыл бұрын
Another tip you might want to add, the print surface itself should be level. If it isn’t, your prints will always fail or have errors.
@mizokia
@mizokia 10 ай бұрын
Won’t the build plate end up planar to the FEP anyhow, so it’s effectively level to itself?
@JoeFlamenco
@JoeFlamenco 10 ай бұрын
@@mizokia​​⁠the printer itself, should be on a level surface. Leveling the buildplate to the fep is a given. Having the printer be initially level is very important. Or you will have lost layers and missed supports.
@badgrendels
@badgrendels 2 жыл бұрын
I have found certain window cleaners clean up the vat very nicely Something in the window cleaner neutralizes the resin
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
I have heard this before but am yet to try it. What brand do you use ?
@badgrendels
@badgrendels 2 жыл бұрын
@@edwardpeak01 sprayway here in the usa
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers
@ArmoredTarek
@ArmoredTarek 2 жыл бұрын
Most window cleaners have denatured alcohol in them. It’s just more diluted so it can soak into the window grime easier.
@leejesm
@leejesm Жыл бұрын
always remember. just because you don't have to clean the vat between prints, it's a good idea to still search for floating pieces broken off from the previous print.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 Жыл бұрын
This is true
@envynemo4170
@envynemo4170 Жыл бұрын
That clean up and not having an lot of space really puts off resin printing for me.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 Жыл бұрын
Fdm is alot cleaner but if you want detail then there's really only one option
@NUeB_net
@NUeB_net Жыл бұрын
Tip 0 - do not use terrible distracting background music. And thanks for the rest! 👍
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 Жыл бұрын
Yes I am aware of this 😂 honestly this is the worst video on the channel but because of the comments KZbin keeps boosting it.
@NUeB_net
@NUeB_net Жыл бұрын
@@edwardpeak01 😆 😅 😂 🤣 Okay, so I'll have a look at yout channel. I just ordered my 1st resin printer and have to learn a lot… getting into FDM was much easier.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 Жыл бұрын
@@NUeB_net fdm is alot cleaner and easier to get into but if you like miniatures or anything with detail you are gunna love resin
@dans-designs
@dans-designs 2 жыл бұрын
some great points, I would like to add that I use IPA to clean my VAT and build plate on my Mono X, I find the cloudyness only happens if the IPA is smeared with a cloth.. if you poor some IPA into the VAP, clean with an old toothbrush and poor out the IPA, then leave it on its long metal edge to dry out in the air the FEP dries clear, I then apply a small amount of 3-in-1 PTFE spray as lubricant before adding the resin for the next print. I hope this helps! Thanks for the tip about the sound of the FEP and checking that with a smartphone
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
I might try that method at some point but I would have thought a toothbrush would be too abrasive? To me the less IPA I have to use the better, less toxic that way. You are welcome and thankyou for the comment.
@dans-designs
@dans-designs 2 жыл бұрын
@@edwardpeak01 Yea i thought the same about the toothbrush when i heard about it but the soft bristles are great for getting into the small gap between the FEP and the VAT and aslong as one doesnt press too hard there is no scratching of the FEP.. I use as little IPA as possible too, then leave it in a container in the sun to evaporate, leaving a small amount of cured resin at the bottom, which just gets thrown away
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
@@dans-designs I think I'd end up jamming the brush through the fep but still worth a go cheers
@Mrdiyhobbies
@Mrdiyhobbies Жыл бұрын
Great video what is that heat thing called u had round the vat and where would I be able to get one
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 Жыл бұрын
Thankyou and that is a fermentation belt and you can get one from most DIY brew your own beer stores
@Javajoinjun
@Javajoinjun Ай бұрын
Just wanted to say thanks. Great vid.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 Ай бұрын
You are very welcome
@roosma82
@roosma82 9 ай бұрын
I would suggest some kind of plastic tray to keep under your printer, and workarea, to contain the resin if your fep ever decides to break. Ikea has some very cheap ones that are perfect for it
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 9 ай бұрын
Good tip
@roosma82
@roosma82 9 ай бұрын
@@edwardpeak01 Oh and nice video by the way. Taking in all the tips I can find as I just started printing (after months of putting it off due to all the safety concerns)
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 9 ай бұрын
@@roosma82 thankyou, you might like my more recent one about where to put a 3d printer there's a lot of safety concerns brought up in that
@N0a5301
@N0a5301 5 ай бұрын
For the temperature of the resin you there'some printer with an inbuilt heater that works also during all the print
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 5 ай бұрын
The GKTwo , my current printer. It's excellent
@MrGsking12
@MrGsking12 6 ай бұрын
It be possible to resident print a VAT for your resin printer
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 6 ай бұрын
No because the print would be too big but you could on a bigger printer. Not sure how resin would work as a vat 🤔 potentially Fdm could work but it would need to be able to hold a fep sheet tight for it to function. Not impossible but definitely tricky
@felemeria
@felemeria Жыл бұрын
I learned the temp one with my first print. I left my AC on and some of the test print didn't stay on the plate. I am assuming that was due to the temp.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 Жыл бұрын
It could be a number of things but temperature effects how well the resin reacts. I've done a whole other video on temp and printing but it could also be plate level or exposure times
@brettpeacock9116
@brettpeacock9116 3 ай бұрын
Temperature was my Bugbear. The first prints on my Saturn 2 were great - and done during Summer. Autumn came and so did failures. Gave up in winter. Tried to find out what the issue was... but no luck - the tempoerature isssue never got any mentions. Then about 5 weeks ago I saw a U-tube video on heating Resin for printing. Eureka! So I sold my Saturn 2 and bought a Saturn 4 Ultra and a Heater. Printer arrived yesterday, and heater to follow in a couple of weeks. (Printer bought locally. Heater is an import. I may find a Brewers Band if the air heater is not up to it.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 3 ай бұрын
I think providing it's continuous and uniform say you put it in an enclosure that's obviously safe and not going to set itself on fire but also insulates it to keep the temperature the same. You should be fine. I just find the heated belt worked well for me. Now I own a gk2 which comes with its own built-in heater which makes a big difference
@adminn80
@adminn80 11 ай бұрын
So you dont need leveling after every time when you finish printing with success? And resin can stay in printer bath if printing is succes. How long?
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 11 ай бұрын
Yes you don't need to re level Everytime , eventually you will and the more big prints you do the more often you may need to level. With leaving resin in the vat always do a visual check for debris just to be careful and do a clean if a print fails. Using vat cleaning feature where it cures a whole layer in the vat is a quick and easy way to do a lazy clean. But that can be a little fiddly It depends on the resin, but I have seen someone leave resin in the vat for a year with a cover on it and it was fine. I never empty mine and it's the same stuff for sometimes a month or so depending on if I'm printing often or not If you have any more questions join my discord I'm always happy to help
@samhughes1747
@samhughes1747 2 жыл бұрын
Ha! I have almost the same Printer/Station combo! I've got the Anycubic Photon Mono 4k and the Elegoo Mercury, so not quite the same setup, but pretty close.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
How is the Saturn? That was my original choice but the first one arrived broken and then I couldn't get my hands on one for love nor money. That's why I have an elagoo cleaning/curing station cause that bit turned up okay where the printer did not
@samhughes1747
@samhughes1747 2 жыл бұрын
@@edwardpeak01, ha! My bad. I meant mercury, as in the cleaning station. You see in the video that he has a Mercury Plus, and I was like, “Ha! That’s basically my setup!”
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
Ah I see yeah we share an unlikely combo but so far I'm happy with the both of them
@_Kerberos_
@_Kerberos_ 2 ай бұрын
Great video, on point 2 though, these days... I don't clean my vat... at all. I'll pour out as much as I can if I'm using a different resin, but generally if some resin mixes it doesn't seem to matter. There are exceptions like if you're going from black to transparent but I rarely dump my vat. If I do get failures, I usually wait and let it settle, then do a vat cleaning cycle (expose the entire bottom) and just peel that off. Anything that's sunk to the bottom sticks to this and you remove it all.
@stltrekmodels.4157
@stltrekmodels.4157 Жыл бұрын
I use E85 now for cleaning as it is about 3 dollars a gallon instead of 21 to 50 ish like Denatured and IPA. I have it in a well ventilated setting and I use a filter respirator mask also. It does have odor but it is not as strong as Denatured Alcohol is, and as long as you are not huffing it, it is just as safe.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 Жыл бұрын
If it's cheap I'll give E85 a go nice thankyou
@stltrekmodels.4157
@stltrekmodels.4157 Жыл бұрын
@@edwardpeak01 Just treat it like the other 2 in that they are all highly flammable, and put out vapors. IPA is the most expensive and least smell but the vapors are still there. The E85 is nice because I can use it to clean with about 15 dollars and have 5 gallons to submerse the model and swish it around in. (Use Nitril Gloves of course) and or even heavier rubber gloves like you are washing dishes. If you do get it on your skin It has Gasoline in it, but it is not like 100% gasoline so as long as you wash it off like in a 10 minute period you will be fine, but avoid getting it on your skin just the same. I filter mine and or have clear bottles for the resin to settle. I have also made a special flame heater that I can run the dirty E85 through when it is to the point where it has so much resin in it that it doesn't clean the models well any longer, but that takes a while. All in all its 5 times less expensive than Denatured, and about 20 times less expensive than IPA. Also if you are in California, You should be aware of the Cancer warning and Pregnant Women not using it warnings. Be safe, and give it a try.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 Жыл бұрын
@@stltrekmodels.4157 Thankyou for the info I'll have to give it a try
@stltrekmodels.4157
@stltrekmodels.4157 Жыл бұрын
@@edwardpeak01 It works good for me, I mostly give the safety talk also because of others who would be reading this along with you.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 Жыл бұрын
@@stltrekmodels.4157 I understand I do the same thing when people ask me things along the lines of " can i resin print in my bedroom"
@hansslob6749
@hansslob6749 2 жыл бұрын
Why no level on the Fab? Paper is 3 x thinner then fab. So you first layers will push all resin away.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
You can if you want to but this is the way the manufacturer recommends and I see less chance of something going wrong like damage to the FEP during the process. But if it works for you than that's great I just wouldn't do it that way
@gayatriouxsiegahangore7929
@gayatriouxsiegahangore7929 Жыл бұрын
My printer does not print, when calibrating the image that it should not appear. What will be the problem? What should I do?
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 Жыл бұрын
There is alot that it could be but to start off if you remove the resin vat and just test that the printing screen itself works by doing an exposure test. It should all light up and again don't do this with the resin vat on it. After that if it's fine then try the other test which I believe is a little square in the middle of the printing screen but it will say what the shape is before you click it on the machines display screen. Providing theres no issue with that then the chances are it's that the plate isn't level in which it will need to be re leveled. If you need more help contact my twitter and I might have some time to guide you through it
@gayatriouxsiegahangore7929
@gayatriouxsiegahangore7929 Жыл бұрын
@@edwardpeak01 The calibration test did not go well, the image is not reflected on the printing screen. Will I have to change it?
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 Жыл бұрын
@@gayatriouxsiegahangore7929 the test image isn't showing up on the printing screen ? If it's the case that your screen isn't able to fully light up when you do the exposure test then unfortunately you might have to replace it unless perhaps it's a loose wire
@davidpiquemal1985
@davidpiquemal1985 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, can you explain how did you do your heat belt ? Which electric parts, some link please ? Thank you
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
Sure thing , it's just a product I bought. You'll find them online try searching "fermentation belt" or if you have a local DIY beer brewing store they will have one
@davidpiquemal1985
@davidpiquemal1985 2 жыл бұрын
@@edwardpeak01 thnak you, i try to found something correct, but finding correct dimension is difficult. At which temperature do you go with this belt ? 25°C? 30°C ? thanks
@DuPz0r
@DuPz0r 2 жыл бұрын
Literally bought a new printer last week, and have cleaned it every print! FEP already looks a bit scuffed and cloudy... 🤦‍♂ Thanks for the advice mate!
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
Your most welcome, I dread to think how much money I spent on fep sheets I broke at the start
@thomasrednik9425
@thomasrednik9425 11 ай бұрын
I use only water-washable resin and print multiple times every day. I completely agree with what you say. Except it is easier to submerge the build platform in alcohol after printing. Same with the resin tank. I keep a big container with about 5 liters of medical alcohol and i let parts soak after removing most of the resin. This just cleans everything really well. Then i rinse the parts and let them dry out before printing again. This might help preventing parts with a lot of cured resin on them
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 11 ай бұрын
That's a lot of alcohol, I can see that working as generally resin will get everywhere especially with printers like the mono x. Good tips might try
@hughneil7212
@hughneil7212 11 ай бұрын
One of the best tips I can give, buy these, 2PCS 3D Printer Platform for Building Plate and Magnetic Sheet, Flexible Steel Plate Flex Bed for 3D Printers. just remember to re-level the build plate after fitting them and scuff up the surface you print on, to help with adhesion.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 11 ай бұрын
I am yet to invest into one of these things, perhaps now is the time would be easier than attacking it with a scraper
@DJmurderbazz
@DJmurderbazz 2 ай бұрын
how did you build your heat solution and also... how you get out the cable without cuting in the box?
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 ай бұрын
i didnt i cut the box lol, its just a beer fermentation belt
@DJmurderbazz
@DJmurderbazz 2 ай бұрын
@edwardpeak01 wish you showed it in deatail... but tbh i also not need it. my rom have 20°
@ivorybow
@ivorybow Ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip about leaving resin in the vat. My printer is in my son's garage and I am only there every week or 10 days or so. I have my stl files ready to go and as soon as I get there I begin printing. But I have been cleaning out the vat before I leave his house. Now I can just leave it. I have a black cover for my printer to keep it in the dark. Would you do a vid about mixing resins? I have a few ounces of high speed left. what do I do with it? I wasn't impressed with significant detail improvement over the std. gray, to justify price. Can we safely mix different standards of resins?
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 Ай бұрын
You're welcome! I'm glad you found that helpful. If you get any fails, you can save time by just putting some old supports into the vat and curing a sheet of resin by turning on the entire UV light screen. Then carefully pulling the supports to peel off that layer and remove any fails. I'm no expert on mixing different resins and I'm sure they all behave differently with each other I can only think that the worst thing will happen if you test that is It will fail and need a clean. I know it's something others do. If you would like a bit more guidance by all means pop into my discord. There are plenty of people way more experienced than me there always happy to help
@ivorybow
@ivorybow Ай бұрын
@@edwardpeak01 Hi. I am not able to find you by your name on Discord. Can you please place a Discord invitation link on your More sections? Thank you
@zephyfoxy
@zephyfoxy 4 ай бұрын
Tip 1 is the first thing I learned on my own lol. At first I was doing it because I sorely underestimated the stink resin has, and I was trying to clear the smell out, so i kept emptying the vat and cleaning it. Now I have a fume hood that the printer permanently lives in, so I stopped doing that.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 4 ай бұрын
Fumes are massive problem with resin printing but once you sort those things are a lot easier
@adriancarrillo9918
@adriancarrillo9918 5 ай бұрын
I’m not understanding the leveling part. Don’t you have to level the plate after removing it to take off prints? The last time I put it back without leveling it made the machine vibrate
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 5 ай бұрын
I don't relevel unless a print fails. Generally speaking, it should stay levelled for a fair few prints dependant on printer
@yasiramad6245
@yasiramad6245 Жыл бұрын
Hi how are you my models is very small how can I fit to normal sizes .my printer photon x2
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 Жыл бұрын
I am very well how are you? , If you get yourself some software like 3d builder you can pop your file in and scale it
@shardperson3777
@shardperson3777 2 жыл бұрын
You do have to empty your vat to be able to mix the resin properly if you use certain resins, Siraya Tech Fast Navy Grey is the best resin i've used but some components start to separate when it's just sitting there, and it has to be mixed very thoroughly, i'm made a habit of pouring the resin back into the bottle whenever i'm cleaning a print if I used Navy Grey
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
I think it depends on the resin, I am getting alot of comments similar to this. Personally I use anycubics eco grey and just heat and mix it in the vat with no issues. Alot of people are saying a film will develope over everything under the UV lid when resin is left in but I havent had this issue yet either. Perhaps I'll add a disclaimer
@22Tesla
@22Tesla 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm well I am nervous about the Not Cleaning Your Tank. My resin printer FEP screen leaked onto my screen and while it's clean-ish it's far from as spotless, but I can still print. The FEP kinda boiled and a little pinprick hole opened up. Now I'm constantly checking this and cleaning my tank when I'm not printing for a while... which has been a while now. Just to be sure no damn holes or bubbles appear to screw me over since i got my printer new from ebay and the company who makes the printer refuses to help me
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
Screen protector my friend, it'll save you alot of fuss down the road. I got mine from anycubic and they replaced my screen because it stopped working 100%. Was it second hand when you bought it? Otherwise I would have thought it should have some warranty
@22Tesla
@22Tesla 2 жыл бұрын
@@edwardpeak01 it was brand new in box. But it's from Elegoo, and when I contacted their support desk they asked me if I bought it from them or one of their authorized sellers, and when I said no, they just dropped me. No replacement parts offered, and no further assistance. Meaning I would have to buy a new screen at full price, and their website always lists a lot of their stuff as sold out. Of course that was 2 years ago so I don't know what the situation is now.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
@@22Tesla ah that is a pain, the reason I have an anycubic is because at the time I couldn't get hold of an elagoo one but I didn't realise they were still difficult to get
@22Tesla
@22Tesla 2 жыл бұрын
@@edwardpeak01 I just checked their site and their replacement screens seem to be back in stock. Though for how long, is the question.
@dallaschambless8428
@dallaschambless8428 2 жыл бұрын
I was washing mine with dawn d8sh soap after using alcohol. Then using lint free towels to dry and clean, but have had to replace so many fep films. It's good to know that I don't need to use alcohol on the FEP.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I avoid using alcohol as much as possible especially with the FEP. It's nasty stuff even through a mask and just tends to ruin FEPs
@Andrelas11
@Andrelas11 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure what the FEP is made out of but Dawn "might" break down some plastics over time.
@matineyang
@matineyang 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t even take the build plate off my machine to get my prints. I just pry them off upside down. I find that I don’t have to relevel as much and have had zero fails other than when there has been a lack of supports. Also if I’m going into another print I pry off the previous prints and go right into another without cleaning off the build plate.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a special magnetic plate of something like that? I can't imagine scraping off my plate without removing it
@matineyang
@matineyang 2 жыл бұрын
@@edwardpeak01 Nope just the stock plate. I just use the metal spatula / scraper that comes with the machine. I never have a problem prying it off.
@stuffs8802
@stuffs8802 6 ай бұрын
In my case I NEED to clean the resin out of this halot one I bought on Facebook Marketplace. There is a reason it was $25. I had to just buy a new vat because of how bad it was. I don't think it's good to leave a failed print in there for 2 years to harden.
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 6 ай бұрын
That's a long time to not remove a fail, even I'm not that bad
@stuffs8802
@stuffs8802 6 ай бұрын
@edwardpeak01 I think the resin was cured in the vat, I soaked it in acetone, and it took the resin off, but it took off the paint with it.
@cours458
@cours458 8 ай бұрын
so the yellow box do not keep the sunlight from messing with the resin?
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 8 ай бұрын
It will block some but I wouldn't rely on it to block all
@DanPckns18
@DanPckns18 Жыл бұрын
I’m new resin printing. My recurring hit or miss issue is sometimes the print is successful but there’s a slight imperfection. The object fully printed but the base will not be balanced. Slight rocking after supports are removed. Then on the other hand the failed print will be a then flat piece resin. I have Halot One printer and I use chitubox the slice models. Any tips or ideas to help?
@edwardpeak01
@edwardpeak01 Жыл бұрын
If it's the first layers you might want a longer burn in exposure time. And probably need to relevel that will make a difference. Also temperature makes a big difference so make sure it's consistent and try to aim for 30 degrees
@DanPckns18
@DanPckns18 Жыл бұрын
@@edwardpeak01 Thank you so much. I’ll give it go.
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