5 Business Vendors that report to EXPERIAN | Business Credit

[@KelvinMcNeil]

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[@tiffanypaulk2000]

Thank you. I just applied for the Murphy card for my llc. I just started in May 2021. I was approved for $600 and I didn’t need anything but my ein number and my business information.

[@Wordlyfe334]

How do u apply for the Murphy card need details

[@cheshahale]

@@Wordlyfe334 It's in his description. All the information to apply is in his description.

[@Wordlyfe334]

@@cheshahale thanks I appreciate it

[@EveryDaySteph]

Thank you Tiffany, do you have any other advice I am just starting my llc and looking for all the information I can get 😊

[@calvindale]

Many thanks Kelvin. Whereas search results returned numerous articles identifying companies that report to D&B and/or Equifax, not so many articles point to companies that report to Experian (except for expensive service companies). So, this video was quite helpful.

[@KelvinMcNeil]

You’re welcome Calvin. Thanks for watching! Yes, I found this to be true during my research so I decided to make a video shedding light on a few little known options with great upside.

[@tommywatkins7023]

Becareful with Home Depot Pro: If you have a postal mailing address regardless if you have street address they want deliver your goods and will require you to provide home address with a utility bill to move forward. Once this tradeline report you need to write business experian to merge file your home address off account as this home address info will kill your chances of approvals moving forward. It takes Experian about 30-60 day to correct file.

[@KelvinMcNeil]

Thanks Tommy for adding value. This is why I’m against using postal addresses.

[@tommywatkins7023]

I am very successful credit wise the postal address box. Just had hiccup with Home Depot Pro.

[@KelvinMcNeil]

@@tommywatkins7023 yes, you can use them in the early stages but once you get to tier 3 and beyond it’s becomes a roadblock.

[@tommywatkins7023]

I am still receiving credit with my addressed mailbox. It was a hiccup only with Home Depot Pro didn't want to send product to my box despite having people available to sign for my stuff. I am setup and structured heavily from Google to Yellow Pages. Be sure to clean you business profile with experian if Home Depot Pro request your home address to ship merchandise. Dispute off your credit report before filing for additional credit.

[@tommywatkins7023]

Guys I work with a Corporate credit business consultant so the guess work is taken out of Building Credit process

[@andrewbieger5004]

Damn Dude. Where have you been hiding? I have been scouring YT forever trying to build the business credit and your videos distill it down to the basics AND with info I have not seen on dozens of other channels. NICE!

[@lovehope3753]

Thank you for the great content. No profanity--just usable information. New subbie!

[@KelvinMcNeil]

Thanks for subscribing!

[@simplytish]

Damnit.. Late to the to the game. Tiger direct just went out of business a couple months ago lol looking forward to a new updated video on this!

[@KelvinMcNeil]

Yeah, this video is over 2 years old I think. I didn’t know Tiger Direct ran out of business but I’m not surprised.

[@domwick720]

i subbed i was watching videos on diff channels to give noise to the algorithm's R.I.(rendered intelligence) but i did not notice i wasn't on this channel but you make quality videos.

[@KelvinMcNeil]

Thanks for subscribing Dom!

[@Currygoatpapi]

I was going to apply to Citgo wex card but they wanted my personal info on the application which I then canceled

[@tbuckmon2011]

This is awesome content!! I’m glad YT’s algorithm recommended you 2 me. Thank you.

[@stevensykes27]

I applied with murphy gas card a few days ago an I was approved for 10,00 dollars.

[@valariewillis1216]

I’m just starting out with my new business. I really appreciate your helpful knowledge.. thank you so much ..

[@KelvinMcNeil]

Nice! Be sure to subscribe and take a look at my How to build business credit playlist. You’ll find the rest of my helpful context.

[@kennyp1360]

You have helped me so much as I am starting my business. I have so much respect for you!! Thank you so much!!

[@KelvinMcNeil]

No problem Kenny! I’m glad you’ve found my content helpful.

[@seanwallace2615]

Thanks for everything! you are really helpful. One of the biggest reason, I watched your video is because you didn't have money flashing, brand new foreign car in the background and a stack of credit cards in your hand. lol lol. So many videos to choose from doing the same damn thing. Again thanks!

[@KelvinMcNeil]

🤣🤣🤣 I feel you Sean. Thanks for the positive feedback. On my channel we chase purpose & freedom.

[@sintrelbutler-parker7757]

As of October 1 Northern Tool has switched to Capital One Bank for their Net 30 account. If you are not in business for 3 years they want you to personally guarantee the account. So this account is not an easy one to get.

[@KelvinMcNeil]

Thanks for the update Sintrel! Was this what you were told by Northern Tool themselves?

[@sintrelbutler-parker7757]

@@KelvinMcNeil Yes I called and talked to one of their reps. He forwarded me the link for the Capital One application. I applied and was denied and I called Capital One and spoke to someone and she reviewed my application and they are going to re-consider my application and will let me know tomorrow.

[@TKO67]

thanks for that update. I need to add experian vendors

[@tracibee3547]

I just tried to apply for a Home Depot account and they said I had to do a paper application and they don’t it over the phone 🥺

[@selfpaidking9196]

Thank you so much for this vid! Experian is tough but this gives me a great headstart. Hoping to have more vendors report but I am going to pay the invoices right away to improve my scores.

[@WONANDONESPORTS]

I have new a new company $10000 business tradeline that reports to equifax/ experian / dun and Bradstreet / credit safe for your business

[@ashfordchris23]

Never pay right away pay 12-15 days before invoice is due if u pay to early it'll be seen as a cash sale and won't report

[@selfpaidking9196]

@@ashfordchris23 thanks bro. Yeah I’ve heard that before. Good lookin’ out

[@pamelamoncrief8579]

Thank you Kelvin for the information on the credit game. I am learning a lot from you so keep it coming :)

[@RecoveryRepairpro]

Hello Pamela, are you interested in boosting your credit within 72 hours ? I can give you a recommendation if you want

[@beyondinkmedia]

I'm having issues having my Equifax score show up in Nav and I have quite a few vendors that should be reporting there.

[@KelvinMcNeil]

It does take time to report. Some Net 30 vendors take 4 months to report. Some gas cards for example report quarterly. Just keep using your vendors until they report.

[@carolinasOWNN]

They may be reporting but not reflected in Nav... for instance my BP MC is reporting to Equifax but on Nav I only have 3 TLS- 2 Nav Accounts and Summa office but in reality its there... You may want to reach out to Equifax directly to obtain a free copy of your business credit report if you request it. Thats how I was able to see the BP MC on the raw data file vs my Nav account... Hope that helped provide a little clarity...

[@beyondinkmedia]

@@carolinasOWNN Thanks, will do!!

[@carolinasOWNN]

Great tip about opening multiple WEX cards in a short window... I wasn't aware of that bro... keep up the great content

[@KelvinMcNeil]

Thanks bro and you do the same! ✊🏾

[@carolinasOWNN]

@@KelvinMcNeil indeed KING

[@Josediaz-cz2ns]

Good video. You already know. Blessings from Texas

[@jeansaintfelix2979]

I got approved for a $1000 today thanks bro

[@lorainec38]

Hey Kelvin, great video. Thanks for helping us all.

[@KelvinMcNeil]

No problem! Thanks for watching

[@coachburkett9267]

Great Info! I got my Nav and I see my business scores…Duns is a 47 but it has an account reporting that I don’t recognize….it’s keeping my score down…there is no info on who the account is…how can I get this handled? Thanks

[@KelvinMcNeil]

Check your full credit report on D&B’s website. It’s a bit more detailed.

[@beyondinkmedia]

Your awesome Kelvin. You are one of my fave KZbinrs.

[@KelvinMcNeil]

Thank you! It’s my pleasure 🙏🏾

[@KelvinMcNeil]

Thank you! It’s my pleasure 🙏🏾

[@curtismccoy127]

You will have to have a business account set up with Wells Fargo to qualify for their secured business card.

[@joshuagreen9488]

You always come threw with good advice. Thank you bro

[@KelvinMcNeil]

No problem Joshua. Thanks for watching

[@jordan234674]

If you're accurate with your Northern Tool requirements, then NT would be an example of a NOT so easy approval.

[@KelvinMcNeil]

It’s a tier 2 account so trust me, in comparison to tier 3 and beyond.. it’s still considered easy approval. It’s levels lol

[@lancehale6670]

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[@KelvinMcNeil]

Thanks for the support 💯

[@KelvinMcNeil]

Thanks for the support ✊🏾💯

[@keyamcmichael536]

Thank you so much for the knowledge I appreciate this. New to business and learning so much.

[@KelvinMcNeil]

You’re welcome Keya! Thanks for watching

[@thomasceo]

Is there a min spend for Tiger Direct or Northern Tool?

[@terrancemccray6704]

There is quite simply not enough Murphy U.S.A around me right now.

[@KelvinMcNeil]

Terrance, here are some more options for fuel cards that report to Experian: Best Business Gas Cards | How to Build Business Credit kzbin.info/www/bejne/joKtdWigi6yVY80

[@scottsellers8967]

Update...Not sure if WEX-WAWA cards stopped reporting, but I had my WAWA cards for months now, used it, and it has never reported to Experian.

[@KelvinMcNeil]

2 things you want to look for. 1) make sure you aren’t paying too soon. If you’re paying the unbilled balance, it’s the same as a cash transaction so there’s not to report. Only pay AFTER the invoice is generated. This can take several business days. 2) Mismatched data. Most revolving accounts only report to Experian so check your business info with Experian. Make sure it’s identical to what’s on your secret of state’s website & IRS.gov

[@scaleraw]

I was approved for the Tiger direct but the line of credit and payments are through Behalf. I’m just wondering is that how tiger direct approves you?

[@chrisswiftlivingright]

What cards only ask for my ein and business info

[@laquansmith4757]

Exactly what I'm looking for

[@Monique2025.]

Thank you for this information❤️. Wish me luck!

[@KelvinMcNeil]

You’ve got this!

[@Monique2025.]

Thank you!

[@giorenaud9657]

Any info on the Costco business card?

[@MsAalston]

I appreciate you for real!!!

[@KelvinMcNeil]

and I appreciate you!

[@wandarichardson8762]

Great content Kevin

[@KelvinMcNeil]

Thank you!

[@montezcardwell8853]

How much do I need to spend with Tiger Direct or it to be reported to Experian?

[@newsnowmikecopp6332]

@Kelvin McNeil HOW CAN BUSINESS OWNERS BECOME NET 30 VENDORS

[@cfsmith2699]

Thank you for these videos. I may not be eligible for any of these. My score for exp was 80 and dropped to 14 and i dont know why. Ive paid all my accounts on time for over a year now. I ordered a business credit report and I think F & D is reporting that I have a balance past 30 days. Ive disputed that and its been about 3 weeks ago. It says my case is being assigned to an agent. Ive also called Comedity too and hope they would correct the problem. But still not sure if they are the problem yet. Anything else I should do to get this score back up?

[@siprecords1]

Will my google voice business number be ok for now to signup for,the Home Depot it is registered with 411 and dun and brad

[@KelvinMcNeil]

No, Google voice doesn’t work. It cannot be listed with 411.

[@siprecords1]

@@KelvinMcNeil well I’ve listed it two weeks ago just call 411 directory it showed up on there and I received a text verifying it

[@KelvinMcNeil]

@@siprecords1 well that’s good to hear. Maybe things have changed over the past year.

[@siprecords1]

@@KelvinMcNeil do you have INSTAGRAM

[@siprecords1]

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[@CarlyzClozet]

Excellent information 👌🏽

[@AnnaRyanTipezenji]

You are awesome. You are the best. Good luck in all you do. I like your videos.

[@KelvinMcNeil]

Thank you sista! I appreciate you. Thanks for the love. 🙏🏾

[@ms.morgan-morgan]

Thank You!!!! 🙏🏽 I have learned a lot from your videos, much appreciated

[@KelvinMcNeil]

You’re welcome! I’m glad you were able to learn now it’s time to apply 💪🏾

[@jacquelineernst5184]

Just started my business, and working on business credit, Thanks for sharing you knowledge. I did subscribed.looking forward for more knowledge.

[@jamarrbailey5410]

Thank you, great information.

[@lealocs]

I have an 86 experian commercial credit score but my dnb and equifax are still saying not enough data. I dont know what to do

[@KelvinMcNeil]

It means you need more vendors to report. If you already have vendors who report to them but they’re not showing up yet; continue to use them each month until they do. Be sure to checkout my Equifax video! A new video on D&B is on the way.

[@1ImperioAguilera]

Great video, Kelvin!!! How many WEX cards can a corporation be approved for, and how often is it recommended to apply for fleet cards from the same underwriter?

[@KelvinMcNeil]

You can only apply for 3 WEX brand gas cards within a 45 day period. However, there’s no limit of total gas cards a business can obtain.

[@just-got-here5594]

Isn't Wex the underwriter for the home Depot net 30 account?

[@KelvinMcNeil]

No, they aren't.

[@blsmalls8843]

New scripter here. Appreciated the content!👍🏿💪🏿💯

[@KelvinMcNeil]

Thanks for subscribing!

[@singleparentcoalition]

Hello how do we add our existing professional number to the 411 business listings?

[@KelvinMcNeil]

www.listyourself.net/

[@singleparentcoalition]

Hello again, how does one get a $5000 credit card for equipment & expansion? I have the big 3 plus pilot and shell fleet.

[@KelvinMcNeil]

I would recommend the Capital on Tap Business Credit Card www.capitalontap.com/us/?

[@bluegrey52]

Hello I wanted to ask you how soon should i take a apply for a business credit card. I just opened business and business bank account last week. I got a call from chase from one of their Business Relationship Managers about applying for a Chase Ink business credit card. I also just have been using credit vendors to help build business credit this past month that i learned from one of your videos. Wondering if i should wait a little bit longer and get more history through the business credit vendors or should i apply for the business credit card with that Business Relationship Manager?

[@randoff32]

What's the best way to get back on your feet? Miss two car payments.

[@KelvinMcNeil]

Get the late payments removed and avoid paying late moving forward.

[@ivincibleman4102]

in the home depot institutional pro application theres a box for property ownership and a box for fee management of company wat the hell are we suppose to put there?

[@KelvinMcNeil]

You’re supposed to apply over the phone.

[@ivincibleman4102]

@@KelvinMcNeil u da man thx just saved me the trouble I’ll be calling them first thing tomorrow morning

[@KelvinMcNeil]

@@ivincibleman4102 no problem

[@ivincibleman4102]

@@KelvinMcNeil just a heads up bro i was just told the credit department is no longer doing over the phone applications.

[@Greattestimon]

Good work again bro! How many vendors should we have reported until we should go and apply for a gas card?

[@KelvinMcNeil]

If you PG with good credit you’ll just need to make sure your business is well established but this video details the preferred requirements for no PG with 3 WEX brand gas cards.

[@WONANDONESPORTS]

Get Fuelman $500 for $1500 or $1500 for $5000 reports to experian / dnb / dun and b

[@WONANDONESPORTS]

After that get the chevron $500

[@ericaray9888]

Thanks your video was great. 👌

[@MsAalston]

The only issue I have is for some reason I don’t have a Dun & Bradstreet paused number yet but an Experian number of 86. I already have tradelines that are supposed to be reporting but I don’t see anything yet. Do you think I should wait before applying for HomeDepot?

[@KelvinMcNeil]

Yes, I think you should wait until your vendors report to Dun & Bradstreet by continuing to use them in the meantime. Once you see you have generated a Paydex score you should then apply for the Home Depot Pro Net 30 account.

[@MsAalston]

@@KelvinMcNeil ok thank you.

[@KelvinMcNeil]

@@MsAalston no problem, thanks for watching!

[@michaelgeer5333]

Murphy app says a pg is required. Is this new?

[@michaelgeer5333]

All the Wex apps say pg is required. Is this new?

[@KelvinMcNeil]

No, just because they ask for SSN on an application doesn’t mean it’s PG. You have to click the information button or read the fine print. Otherwise just use the exit application strategy as mentioned in the video to be sure.

[@jesusramirez-sz1bz]

Does tiger direct do a hard pull on your personal credit report? I applied with a locked personal Experian file. They are asking me to unlock it but I dont trust it. my paydex is 80 with 6 trades all fuel cards my business Experian is 86. Thanks for the info.

[@jovii387]

does the business need to be 2 years for tiger direct? I have an 80 paydex score

[@KelvinMcNeil]

15:46 Only requirements

[@pamelasmalls4780]

Hello! I have an 80 paydex score. And I would like to get a Shell Fleet gas card. But Equifax and Experian is not the strong yet. Would it hold me back on getting it

[@KelvinMcNeil]

You don’t have to have perfect business credit to get approved, you just need to have some established. You’ll be fine. Especially with Shell. Just follow my exit application strategy & you’ll be able to apply for the basic Shell card which is all you need.

[@KelvinMcNeil]

You don’t have to have perfect business credit to get approved, you just need to have some established. You’ll be fine. Especially with Shell. Just follow my exit application strategy & you’ll be able to apply for the basic Shell card which is all you need.

[@rscottie5624]

Thanks for the jewels King.

[@tinykokoch8400]

Do you offer courses on how get business credit without using your SSN?

[@KelvinMcNeil]

Not yet but I’m working on it.

[@tinykokoch8400]

@@KelvinMcNeil patiently waiting 😉

[@wholevibe1778]

@@tinykokoch8400 mmkay!

[@jones26777]

So do i need to by something from my vendor's every month for them to report? I'm just starting out so i wasn't sure how this works

[@KelvinMcNeil]

Yes, you build credit with payment history. So this means you’ll need to pay invoices on time to improve your credit. I recommend paying at least 4 invoices (1 each month) before you stop using the service. Most vendors have a min. subtotal at checkout required for reporting. An example would be $50 for Uline, Grainger & Quill.

[@nicolasmike9576]

Great video Kelvin! How do you submit the app for Northern Tool online? It only gives an option to fax or mail it in

[@KelvinMcNeil]

Correct, you’ll have to mail in, fax over the application or apply over the phone at 1-800-556-7885

[@healthymindcounselingwelln5411]

WEX sent me a PG form to sign

[@sweetjessiegii]

When you say being in business for a year or so, when does that time start? Is that when you create your LLC or what? Forgive me if this is a dumb question but i am new to the game lol

[@KelvinMcNeil]

Your business is only as old as the date you form your corporation and get your business checking account.

[@jacobiperry7200]

How long does it take for accounts to show up on D&B?

[@KelvinMcNeil]

30-90 days

[@jacobiperry7200]

Do you do phone appointments or have a website?

[@KelvinMcNeil]

@@jacobiperry7200 calendly.com/greenscalecredit/business-credit-coaching

[@TravisPernell]

Good video! Question: I have ordered from about ten net 30 vendors and paid the invoices for them after the vendors sent them. Do I wait for them to report or do I need to continue ordering from them monthly until they do? Note: These are vendors that report monthly, the common ones.

[@KelvinMcNeil]

Continue ordering until they do but make sure your purchases meet the minimum $50 subtotal before shipping. Keep in mind most vendors take 4 months to begin reporting, even if they report monthly.

[@Qball227]

I thought you need a website as well to get approved for tiger direct.

[@KelvinMcNeil]

Of course you do. Its all apart of the 8 keys of having a legitimate and credible business as stated in the video.

[@tonyoutlaw5626]

What is your email address

[@antoinewilliams548]

Do you do business credit coaching

[@KelvinMcNeil]

Yes, I do 👉🏾 calendly.com/greenscalecredit/business-credit-coaching

[@Paparatziwill]

Great information thank you for the break down

[@KelvinMcNeil]

No problem! Thanks for watching

[@tammier8860]

Is it possible to get TIGER DIRECT without a PG??

[@KelvinMcNeil]

Yes, if you meet the qualifications covered in this video.

[@tammier8860]

@@KelvinMcNeil I do but as soon as I register they attempted to pull my frozen Experian. I shot my rep an email letting him know I did not intend to PG. Company 10 years old... 6-7 tradelines reporting

[@KelvinMcNeil]

@@tammier8860 you should apply with the rep over the phone to avoid PG’ing.

[@tammier8860]

@@KelvinMcNeil agree I will wait for his response or call him Monday. Thank you Kelvin

[@KelvinMcNeil]

@@tammier8860 no problem

[@TKO67]

Home Depot commercial card or Home Depot Revolving Charge ?

[@KelvinMcNeil]

You have to 1st apply for the Home Depo Pro Institutional Net 30 account at 866-412-6726 as mentioned in the video. Then you'll qualify for the Home Depo Pro Purchase card, 30 days after you've paid your 2nd invoice.

[@ron6126]

Thank you.

[@bradharris7268]

Thank u bro

[@professorkrane3658]

How long does it normally take for a Rep from Tiger Direct to contact you?

[@KelvinMcNeil]

Normally takes about 1-4 business days. You'll get an email from a sales rep.

[@professorkrane3658]

@@KelvinMcNeil To get NET terms with Tiger Direct it's through Behalf so you need to make sure your Experian credit is unlocked as they will do a soft pull.

[@tammier8860]

@@professorkrane3658 I emailed them back yesterday and told rep "10 year old company and I prefer not TO PG". Let's see how it goes.

[@professorkrane3658]

@@tammier8860 They replied within 2 days for me. Their financing is underwritten through Behalf.

[@tammier8860]

@@professorkrane3658 yeah I saw all of that. I'm not gonna PG though

[@missveescandles]

Great video

[@devinbrooks5603]

How can we contact you personally?

[@KelvinMcNeil]

You can book a 1-on-1 coaching session 👉🏾 calendly.com/greenscalecredit/business-credit-coaching

[@demetriusnickens6803]

How do I get in contact with you

[@KelvinMcNeil]

How can I assist you?

[@demetriusnickens6803]

@@KelvinMcNeil looking for help to fill out business vendors like home depot or sams business..and looking for funding

[@KelvinMcNeil]

@@demetriusnickens6803 you can schedule a business credit coaching session here 👉🏾 calendly.com/greenscalecredit/business-credit-coaching

[@BilliAngelleShow]

Gratitude 🙏 gratitude 🙏 much abundance and bliss be with you. Keep going.

[@jimmyobando938]

Easy 😀😀😀man a lot of them you say required 80

[@TheMindIsAll]

⚡

[@JasonJohnson-i9d]

Tradelines

[@bwareofromeo]

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[@diannedavis6684]

Thank you I would like to speak to you🥺❤

[@KelvinMcNeil]

DM me on IG @kelz_mac or schedule a one-on-one at calendly.com/greenscalecredit/business-credit-coaching

[@diannedavis6684]

@@KelvinMcNeil Thank you for getting back with me ,was Sick just went thru my email I get over joy when watching the video!😮😀❤

[@niskey121]

These were not helpful I thought you were talking about easy vendors these ones are not easy. People just starting out looking for startup vendors

[@KelvinMcNeil]

Anything tier 1-2 is considered easy. Nothing in this video is above tier 2 but of course there’s levels to this. I have other videos focusing exclusively on tier 1s as well but every vendor mentioned in this video can be obtained by a start up business.

[@niskey121]

@@KelvinMcNeil no because all require you to be in business for awhile

[@KelvinMcNeil]

@@niskey121 this isn't true. If your business is at 30 days old and you have the 8 keys to having a legitimate & credit business as I've laid out on my channel you can get these vendors with no issues. Watch my How to Build Business Credit playlist and you'll understand. These are certain easy approval vendors. There is no revenue requirement, no deposit, no certain number of bank references required for any of these vendors. The approval requirements are very basic.

[@niskey121]

@@KelvinMcNeil I just did it, and that's the required things they told me

[@KelvinMcNeil]

@@niskey121 for what vendor?

[@mynkhaircollection3891]

Thank you. From the time I seen your videos, I have executed and leveled up. I don't mind paying "COACHES" for information if they give reliable worthy information. However, I love the freebie information you provide from your page. Thank you

[@KelvinMcNeil]

You’re welcome! and props to you for execution! Many do nothing with this information.

[@siprecords1]

Thank you very much boss I really needed this info sir, do you have Instagram

[@KelvinMcNeil]

Instagram.com/kelz_mac

[@itskat55]

K - RE: Home Depot. I’ve got a Pro Acct w/HomeD already -is this Institutional ProCard the net30 acct?

[@KelvinMcNeil]

Yes it is

[@itskat55]

@@KelvinMcNeil Thank you💣 Got It today.

[@Kbcare01]

What if you’re on the west coast and these gas stations aren’t out here? 🫠

[@KelvinMcNeil]

Here’s a video I made dedicated to fuel cards. You’ll be able to find multiple cards that work at stations on the west coast: kzbin.info/www/bejne/joKtdWigi6yVY80