5 Cities That NEED An NHL Expansion Team!

[@mb-349]

As a Wisconsin sports fan and someone from Milwaukee I can never get into hockey because I need to be a fan of a team in my own city. The Brewers and Bucks always get high attendance and I’m sure a hockey team would too.

[@DontUputThatEvilOnMe]

Yes Milwaukee definitely needs an NHL team.

[@HawklordLI]

First of all the Islander aren't going anywhere, they have a brand new arena...duh. Nobody cares about hockey in Florida? Last time I checked the Lightning are doing quite well...duh

[@VADR27]

He wasn’t talking about the Lightning

[@thechefmike]

in the area that the Panthers are in, no one really cares and 25 years not having a good team most of the time never helped

[@ernie8401]

Florida is not a hockey state most Tampa fans are bandwagons

[@nicksidoti4195]

This guy doesn’t even know how to pronounce “Nordiques” … not sure he really knows much about the NHL seeing as he didn’t know the isles just got a brand new arena

[@spencee11]

Two “…duh” in one comment disgusts me.

[@robserrano8971]

10 Teams Portland Explorers, Utah Swarm, Kansas City Scout, Houston Areos, Milwaukee Lakers, Hamilton Snowcats, Quebec Noriques, Baltimore Armada, Hartford Whalers, Atlanta Thrashers.

[@kevinjs26]

Wisconsin needs a team. It doesn't even need to be in Milwaukee just somewhere in the state. They would do gang busters.

[@andredion1726]

The fact that Wisconsin, specifically the Milwaukee area does not have an NHL franchise has always left me perplexed. Being a Red Wings fan, it would be literally awesome to have another geographical rival in our midst. Hopefully, the NHL will award Milwaukee a franchise in the not-so-distant future.

[@Sibaru600]

Madison is interesting big

[@flowwyeditz]

AINT NO WAY BRO SAID THE ATLANTA TRASHERS THE DISRESPECT 💀💀💀💀

[@juniorpaulo3451]

I would like to see some of these teams: Quebec Nordiques, Hartford Whalers, Houston Aeros, California Golden Seals, Milwaukee Admirals, Kansas City Scouts, Cleveland Barons, Hamilton Tigers, Atlanta Thrashers, Saskatoon Blades.

[@bigharlem4208]

Cleveland Spires, Baltimore Pennysailers

[@1738TheSquad]

Milwaukee has an AHL team would be dope if they become an NHL team

[@DYLANMATHEWS49]

The golden seals would kinda be an issue due to the sharks playing in the bay area already

[@FischerFan]

Saskatoon is too small to get a team.

[@robserrano8971]

SASKATOON CARIBOU AND REGINA GREY WOVLES IN CENTRAL DIVISION. GR8 RIVALRIES CAN HELP NHL GROW IN CANADA 🇨🇦. HAMILTON HAMMERS AND QUEBEC NORIQUES.

[@Cybereagle4122]

Tampa Bay has a pretty supportive fan base. Lots of people in Tampa love the lightning

[@T0kenss]

I think the Milwaukee admiral’s should be a nhl team

[@TornadoTrick]

Milwaukee needs a team. Right now WI has the Packers in Green Bay, the Brewers and the Bucks in Milwaukee. Where is the NHL team?

[@hofpavs]

for real

[@stuartrubin5730]

The most recent Atlanta NHL team was the Thrashers, not the Trashers. The pronunciation of the name of the old Quebec City Nordiques was botched as well. It was not Nor -D -K's, rather it was pronounced Nor Deeks. As noted by someone else the Islanders have a brand new arena and are not going anywhere. As far as Hamilton, placing a team there would be objected to by both Toronto and Buffalo, so it is unlikely to happen.

[@shawnokeefe1580]

This guy no hockey fan

[@cascisa22]

I think he got it right

[@MAP2023]

also he said Kayats not CoYOtes.

[@jacksonconley5117]

It blows my mind that the state of Wisconsin has everything except hockey.😳

[@travisreed1730]

I'd like to see Wisconsin get one. Kansas City Scouts coming back could be cool. I'd LOVE to see the Whalers come back.

[@JustinJetsProdz]

I agreee

[@Chiefsfansince-qb1kt]

Kansas City 1,000%!

[@travisreed1730]

@@Chiefsfansince-qb1kt it'd be cool to see the Kansas City Scouts return. But the BILLION-DOLLAR QUESTION is, "WOULD THEY SURVIVE THIS TIME?"

[@fantasticvoyage262]

Why were the Islanders even brought up? They are tied to their new arena for long time.

[@gmellos]

San Diego would make a great option. Only one Major League team. 3.3 MIllion residents who have been supporting the AHL Gulls very well

[@kingjoshtheskigod]

No the pechanga arena is not nhl ready

[@georgemellos5164]

@@kingjoshtheskigod San Diego is in the process of developing the Midway Arena district with a new arena

[@FischerFan]

San Diego needs the return of the NFL or NBA...or both. The NHL doesn't need another sun belt franchise.

[@Sibaru600]

@@FischerFan if there are fans then why dont come here

[@FischerFan]

@@Sibaru600 You could ask that same question about Quebec City.

[@davidtosh7200]

Let’s add Houston and San Diego to the expansion NHL’s 33rd and 34th teams, and move Nashville Predators from the Western Conference in the Central Division to Eastern Conference in the Metropolitan Division to balance the 17 teams in each Conference. Hockey is getting to be popular in the warmer climate with little or no winter, like Arizona Coyotes, Vegas Golden Knights, Dallas Stars, Florida Panthers, Tampa Bay Lightning, Anaheim Ducks, San Jose Sharks, Carolina Hurricanes, Nashville Predators, and Los Angeles Kings.

[@maplesyrup9553]

We need Canadian teams bruh

[@penguinsfan251]

I will throw my two cents out there before watching the whole video. 1. Forget all small markets that have an NBA team. Portland, Sacramento, Salt Lake City, Oklahoma City, Milwaukee, Indianapolis, Cleveland and Charlotte are out. 2. There are two Top 10 American metro areas without the NHL. There are Houston and Atlanta. Metro Houston has over 7 million people and metro Atlanta Has 6.1 million. The relocation of the Flames in 1980 is irrelevant to today. 3. The biggest metro areas in the US with no wintertime team are San Diego (3.3M), Baltimore (2.8M), Cincinnati (2.3M) and Kansas City (2.4M). 4. Quebec has 0.8M in it's metro area.So does Hamilton. 5. Houston, Kansas City and Quebec have NHL ready arenas. The rest do not, with the possible exception of the 40 year old Copps Coliseum in Hamilton. 6. The arena situations in Phoenix and Ottawa need to be resolved. Therefore, I predict a 40 team league in 10 years. Houston will be first. Maryland has a funding mechanism for a new arena in it's Lottery. Kansas City and Atlanta would be next. That's 36. San Diego and Quebec would get to 38.The last two? Hamilton or Cincinnati and Austin, Texas.

[@Punnybone55]

Atlanta has already had, and lost, TWO NHL teams. They won't get a 3rd shot.

[@Mefoo]

@@Punnybone55 they won't for a while but the only reason they failed was because of the owners

[@willp.8120]

@@Punnybone55 Dude, Atlanta's movements had nothing to do with fan support. The Flames left because the owner was a real estate developer who lost money when Jimmy Carter raised interest rates to over 21 percent. This was going to tank his real estate business, so he sold the Flames to the highest bidder, someone who took them to Calgary. The Thrashers we're sabotaged by the owners, basically prevented from selling to local owners because of all the stipulations in a sale. They wanted the Thrashers gone, didn't want them but bought them because of it being a package deal with the arena and the Hawks. They also wanted the relocation fee, it has been said. Atlanta Spirit Group is the worst owners in the history of professional sports. What other owners other than perhaps the As sabotages the team they own?

[@jasonmartinez5116]

Austin needs to expand Moody Center if they want to get an NHL team. San Antonio is the closest to a proper NHL arena (AT&T Center) but that arena needs to be retrofitted and modified to fit NHL properly

[@fantasticvoyage262]

Salt Lake City is definitely a player. Especially if they get the Olympics and a new arena.

[@Chiefsfansince-qb1kt]

KANSAS CITY!!!!! #1. The city has a modern, state of the art arena ready to go (T-Mobile Arena, 17,300 seats with over 80 luxury boxes. #2. The Hunt family (net worth of over 16-billion) would be involved in ownership group. #3. Arena located in the downtown area in a destination type of district. #4. MSA (metro statistical area) population is at 2.5 million now, (larger than 7 current NHL cities) and is projected to increase to 3-million by 2030. Corporate sponsorship base is relatively same group as those who support the Chiefs. #5. Large and diverse fan base comprising people with ample disposable income, many of whom have relocated into KC due to job transfer. #6. Every other NHL city (except Quebec City) that has lost a NHL franchise has been given a 2nd chance (Minnesota, Bay Area, Winnipeg, Atlanta-TWICE!, and Denver) and Kansas City has the best set of conditions awaiting a relocated franchise or expansion team. #7. Kansas City would also be a perfect fit for the Central Division in the NHL, with potential natural rivalries with St. Louis, Chicago, Minnesota, Nashville, Dallas and Colorado. #8. Fans who wanted to travel to see their team play in Kansas City would find ample hotel and restaurant availability, easy access to and from T-Mobile arena and into and out of Kansas City. KC is (and HAS BEEN) more than ready to be a NHL city again! What are you waiting for Gary?!!!!!!!! PUT A TEAM BACK IN KANSAS CITY!!!

[@fantasticvoyage262]

Hunt doesn't want a team.

[@mkc3704]

I'd be right there on opening day if they come to KC. I love the KC Mavs and would love nothing more than having pro hockey here.

[@atrholiday2889]

Living in Texas I’d do Omaha, Nebraska before Houston. Yeah Houston’s a sexier city but I’d take my chances on being the first in a growing market than just being another team added to a larger market

[@ChimairaGod]

Islanders just built a new arena.

[@GCBlues45]

The new arena is nice,they split time at Nassau Coliseum & Barclay Center until the new arena was built,they should never left the Nassau Coliseum,until new arena was built. Barclay Center was never built for hockey & it was very bad.

[@CharlieND]

Well I have some things to say. I completely agree with the five cities you listed. I like that you took time to research hockey-related facts about all of them. I think all of them have massive potential to becoming NHL markets. I also made a video explaining why I chose these cities. The quality of the video was overall pretty nice. I liked the music choice and the narration was pretty well done, aside from a few pronunciation errors like on "Nordiques". Also, sometimes the clips you showed didn't match what you were talking about which was a bit distracting. But other than that, great job! It this video definitely needs more attention.

[@Conservativelawyer]

I would love Hamilton to have a team but the Arena we have right now is not big enough!

[@Conservativelawyer]

it still could be bigger.

[@andredion1726]

I second your sentiment. The size and modernity of the Copps Coliseum however is considerably too inadequate to host an NHL franchise. An NHL-compatible arena would have to be built with all modern amenities included. Regarding potential names, the ones best suited are 1) Highlanders 2) Imperials 3) Admirals 4) Royals 5) Lions

[@AaronTheGreat________]

How big is it compared to say Winnipegs ?

[@connormcdd]

The panthers are back, Jackets just got Johnny, and the Avs just won the cup so idk about that

[@paullupo756]

Milwaukee could have had a team back in the 90's, but they wanted to charge the Pettis big money because we were close to Chicago.

[@tsc6454]

Tampa is possibly the best hockey city in America. They sell out for every game as well as having huge crowds outside watching on the big screen. The atmosphere in the building is second to none. Every game is an event in Tampa. When the Buccaneers aren't winning the Lightning is the number one team in town

[@Mellowyellow8888]

I would like to point out.. the exchange rate in general is a big deterrent to putting another team in Canada...

[@LockeDemosthenes2]

If I picked 5 new NHL cities: Hamilton, ON, Quebec City, QB, Salt Lake City, UT, Milwaukee, WI, and Kansas City, MO. I would also consider Sacramento, CA, Portland, OR, San Diego, CA, Baltimore, MD, Saskatoon, SK, and Houston/Austin/or San Antonio, TX. Also, it's fun to speculate about this sort of thing, but I honestly don't see the NHL expanding any time soon (32 teams is sort of already too many), and the only team that can realistically relocate in the near future is Arizona.

[@willp.8120]

Nah, Atlanta, Houston, Hamilton, Quebec, and San Diego would make the most sense.

[@robocock475]

No more NHL teams in Cali; Quebec & Houston would do well though

[@grannydeez13]

Pretty criminal wisconsin doesn’t have a hockey team

[@willp.8120]

Put the NHL back in Atlanta. This is nuts calling for Kansas City, a metropolitan area one third the size. Atlanta lost two teams due to ownership issues, nothing to do with fan support. Get with the program, video maker. Atlanta is just below Houston in population and hockey would be much more successful in Atlanta than Houston.

[@robertholmberg6485]

NHL in Milwaukee now!!!

[@willp.8120]

That'd be like giving Greensboro, North Carolina a team.

[@eggman903]

I’m more of a NBA guy but I really want to learn about the NHL as I’m a Montreal Canadians fan

[@VetGoalie76]

Who are the Nordikees? You mean the Nordiques (pronounced NORDEKES)?

[@BeJesus9898]

I agree with 3 of your city’s to relocate Colorado isn’t going anywhere due to how good they are doing and same goes for Florida

[@thehoneycamper2634]

cbj isnt bc although the market is smaller, the ohio team is only sharing it with the mls columbus crew

[@atrholiday2889]

Also if a prospective city already has an NBA team then it should be no-go. The NHL can work with the NFL and MLB, but just don’t even bother with another sport’s season that directly conflicts with your own

[@timkelly6463]

Many NHL teams share an arena with NBA teams, and they don't suffer from overlapping seasons. If anything, a city with an NBA team is MORE inviting for expansion/relocation.

[@Detector1977]

Many viable nhl cities BUT the problem is that no one right now is close to moving at all...

[@jonreeves8098]

Anybody else getting a Dr Steve Brule vibe on the voiceover? “Las Veg-u-lous Golden Knights”…

[@mincraftisawsome1234]

The Arizona ‘kioats’ has to be one of the most disgusting way to pronounce coyotes lmfao

[@loupgarou1317]

Add that the WHA had the Aeros as well.......so more likely the "Yotes" move there before it is all over with imo.....

[@mamoruchiba3301]

New Orleans too maybe

[@RedAvalanche98]

1:23 ah yes, Makar is my favorite Carolina Hurricanes player

[@barzalaep]

Same 😂

[@barzalaep]

Islanders ain’t going nowhere

[@diadaoibh]

Year on and 3 of these teams arent going anywhere

[@fantasticvoyage262]

I don't see any of them leaving.

[@andreasgrothe9940]

I wish Baltimore would have an NHL team in Royal Farms Arena

[@richardlittle1663]

NHL in Cincinnati needs to happen it would make great rivalry with the Columbus Blue Jackets in the interstate rivalry in the state of Ohio

[@mjohn3126]

It’s an actual crime that Wisconsin doesn’t have an NHL team.

[@richardlittle1663]

NHL in Cleveland needs to happen it would make a great rivalry with the Toronto Maple Leafs, Buffalo Sabres and Detroit Red Wings in the Atlantic Division of the Eastern Conference of the NHL it would be called the Great Lakes rivalry in the NHL

[@rayspooner1982]

Bring back the Hartford Whalers!!

[@krazyshady902]

HALIFAX

[@blackdawg7361]

The NHL Expansion Franchise Plans: Portland, Oregon, Seals Houston, Texas, Apollos Kansas City, Missouri, Cougars Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Shamrocks Sorry to Quebec City, Quebec, Hamilton, Ontario, and a second team in Toronto, Ontario, it's not your time. Also, Atlanta, Georgia, you already had two chances in the past (Flames, Thrashers), you're not getting a third opportunity!

[@marcobabisky695]

“The Nordicays?” 😂

[@paulhudson4254]

🍁 Ask Toronto if your right about Florida relocating? 🍁

[@allenrosa3486]

Colarado has multiple cups no way they’re moving

[@gardcorelegend]

The Coyotes are going to Houston even though they are denying it as of now, plus the city of Glendale, AZ isn't renewing the lease for the Coyotes at Gila River Arena after the 2021-22 season.

[@Kingneptune87]

that's not entirely confirmed yet

[@GCBlues45]

@@Kingneptune87,no its confirmed that Cyods r homeless after this season. No arena,its time for the oringinal Winnipeg Jets to move again.

[@Kingneptune87]

@@GCBlues45 oh ok then

[@Ontario_editzzz]

i already knew this

[@patriclo9509]

Staying in Phoenix, wrong!

[@andredion1726]

1) Atlanta Tridents 2) Hamilton Highlanders 3) Hartford Whalers 4) Quebec Nordiques 5) Milwaukee "?"

[@Matt-bx3el]

I would move the Coyotes to Quebec, the Panthers to Houston, the Hurricanes back to Hartford, the Blue Jackets to Halifax, the Ducks to Kansas City, and then add Hamilton, Milwaukee, San Diego and Atlanta

[@kingjoshtheskigod]

No i would move the jacks to Cleveland the ducks to Kansas City the panthers to Houston and the yotes to Quebec the hurricanes are not goingnanywhere

[@willp.8120]

I'd move the Panthers to Atlanta. I'd keep the Coyotes in the Phoenix area. I'd move the Ducks to San Diego. I'd move the Islanders to Houston. I'd have expansion teams in Hartford and Salt Lake City. I would not consider Kansas City, Portland, Cleveland, or the like. I'd put AHL teams in Birmingham, New Orleans, Memphis, Orlando, Jacksonville, Kansas City, Portland, Austin, and Cincinnati.

[@michael-johnbrown2881]

Quebec city dont need a hockey team one nhl hockey team in Quebec is enough dont need another

[@AaronTheGreat________]

Are u serious bro ? Why is one team enough Quebec is massive and Quebec City deserves its team back more than Florida deserves a hockey team

[@michael-johnbrown2881]

They had the Quebec Bulldogs than the Nordiques if Quebec City gets another team this will be the 3rd try to keep a team but i will give Quebec City credit they will get another team before Toronto or Hamilton

[@AaronTheGreat________]

@@michael-johnbrown2881 mate tge bulldogs moved from their in 1920 I wouldn’t call that the first try they weren’t even in the nhl

[@RedAvalanche98]

yes... nortic-keas

[@MadHDGaming]

Hamilton failed Kansas City failed Milwaukee Wisconsin would rather see the Hartford whalers return Houston Texas would have to have hockey fans which they don’t Quebec City is the city thats gotta have their team back the rest of them nobody will go see besides the Hartford Whalers

[@Feurmc_]

The avs,isles,jackets ain’t relocating lmfao

[@brightonmccurdy8488]

Randomly in my feed.... You beat the algorithm!!!!

[@jeremyrawson5327]

Honestly I think Brantford Ontario should get an NHL team anyway that’s where Wayne Gretzky came from

[@emersonmanning1124]

The Islanders low attendance was because they had an outdated arena that seated significantly less people. They have a new arena and likely won't move

[@kingjoshtheskigod]

I know that i live on long isla nd i did not however go to a isles game but isles and avs are not moving florida nah arizona and ottawa yes

[@willp.8120]

Move the Islanders to Atlanta. No good reason for the NYC area to have three teams . We can rename them the Thrashers .

[@emersonmanning1124]

@@willp.8120 I disagree, having the Isles and Devils allows the NHL to triple dip in the NYC tv market

[@willp.8120]

@@emersonmanning1124 They have enough hockey with the two other teams. Why should a market have three teams, yet large markets like Atlanta and Houston have none?

[@emersonmanning1124]

@@willp.8120 why abandon loyal and passionate fanbases when expansion can only add to the pool?

[@manuelgrothe608]

I vote Houston, TX San Antonio, TX San Diego, CA Baltimore, MD Kansas City, MO

[@robertfeinberg748]

The Nordi-kays -- give me a break! Kansas City - fuhgediboudit!

[@joaquincassagnetezcurra5875]

I'm surprised Alaska doesn't have an NHL team.

[@WcoopW]

Travel expenses are just way too much

[@andredion1726]

I have fantasized about such an idea. How does the 'Anchorage Polar Bears' sound as a possible name?

[@Hangiinjohnny]

Why does everyone put hamilton on the expansion list? Copps is a rundown arena not fit for nhl use without a massive overhaul. This city can’t even fill up the bulldogs games and you’d have to get both Toronto and Buffalo to agree with both being in the same market area. There’s a reason the nhl haven’t been in hamilton in 100 years and there’s no reason to think they are any closer to seeing another team in the next 100

[@timkelly6463]

I think the reason most people think of Hamilton is because of the equivalents in the US. LA Kings/Anaheim Ducks, New York Rangers/Islanders/New Jersey Devils. Both are major metropolitan areas with multiple teams. But yes, they would need a new arena.

[@ShaunNarain-c5r]

S.e Ontario will never give up on the Toronto maple leafs. 🍁

[@fatherlucid4995]

Houston Cosmos would be the perfect name

[@fantasticvoyage262]

I like that name.

[@andredion1726]

With a colour arrangement nearly identical to the Earth itself as viewed from outer space

[@Grislythrone]

"nobody cares about hockey in FL" crazy cuz Tampa sells out all of their games. Also the Panthers are not where the Miami Heat are. WTF

[@DeaconD5]

Nordikays

[@dylanp9211]

What about Indiana/Indianapolis

[@JustinJetsProdz]

Can we talk about how the Penguins almost went to Kitchener Or Kansas City

[@GCBlues45]

If the NHL expands to 36 teams after a Coyotes move to Hoston. New NHL towns I see are. Quebec,Portland,KC, & Hartford. Now why? Quebec cause they want to back,Portland with rivalry with Seattle,KC cause of the rivalry with St.Louis & Hartford cause they want to be back & they can do it.

[@Punnybone55]

Hartford is to the NHL what Seattle is to the NBA. Both cities should be at or near the top of any future expansion lists

[@willp.8120]

All baby cities compared to the behemoth that is Atlanta. You ought to be ashamed for not including Atlanta.

[@shawnokeefe1580]

Arizona only team that may be relocated

[@willp.8120]

Amazing that the league is so infatuated with the Phoenix market and has propped up and supported them for so long, about fifteen years actually, yet they were okay with Atlanta being shipped off after only about three months, despite the Thrashers outselling them in all but about two seasons.

[@FischerFan]

@@willp.8120 The NHL took ownership of the Coyotes in 2009 by purchasing the team out of bankruptcy. The Thrashers were never in bankruptcy as the team owners never filed for it. They simply wanted to unload the team.

[@E.H.Tatman]

Move Coyotes to Houston, Panthers to Atlanta....leave everything else alone.

[@fantasticvoyage262]

Neither owner have any interest leaving.

[@Kingneptune87]

NHL in Cleveland needs to happen ,it would make a great rivalry with the blue jackets

[@danielleclair1360]

HAMILTON City and surrounding areas within 1-2 hours have tons of fans that cheer for Montreal, Detroit, Buffalo, Ottawa because Toronto sucks. Many of these fans would become Hamilton fans over night especially those in Hamilton, Halton, Haldimand, Brant Oxford and Niagara areas. Its a shame Hamilton still doesnt have a team when everyone knows it would work. You got the Rangers, Islanders, Flyers, Devils and Caps all wedged in a very nearby area. Hamilton and Even London or Kitch could also have franchises that would survive. The fans/money isnt an issue here. Theyd fill the arenas.

[@andredion1726]

Having Hamilton would be stupendous as it would undoubtedly create a four-way rivalry between Toronto, Buffalo, and Detroit. My first preference would be to name the franchise the 'Highlanders', with the team colour scheme correlating with the colour palette of the legendary 48th Highlanders brigade of the Canadian Army. Such a colour scheme paired with an astute style logo has the potential to become one of the most influential designs of the past 30 years. Go Highlanders!!!

[@shawnokeefe1580]

Nordi “ks”…you clearly know NOTHING about hockey

[@sonsofarrow8274]

San Fransisco would make a great option

[@oilersridersbluejays]

No.

[@oilersridersbluejays]

No.

[@sonsofarrow8274]

@@oilersridersbluejays Why not?

[@barzalaep]

No San Diego

[@Punnybone55]

KC also had the Kings for several seasons. But why not Indianapolis? The first American city that Gretzky played for!

[@eriklakeland3857]

Have you been to Fuel games? Hardly anybody cares about hockey in Indy. Hell, even the Pacers in a supposedly basketball obsessed state have had shite attendance for years

[@willp.8120]

@@eriklakeland3857 Indianapolis has literally had one of the worst attendances amongst their teams, while Atlanta is third in attendance amongst tlmatkets with three or more major league teams.

[@robocock475]

Indianapolis is too hilbilly to have an NHL team; just stick to NASCAR racing & Football there

[@nathanviebranz9111]

Can’t take the video seriously with these pronunciations, not to mention there’s no way those relocation candidates are moving any time soon with the exception of maybe Arizona.

[@lolo27234]

gonna have to take the panthers of the relocate list

[@squidMB]

Hartford needs a team again

[@bencarter8423]

Not big enough. The Whalers played in the mall. That’s why they left.

[@pjjones2235]

Tampa is in Florida

[@backbaconnbeer]

As long as Gary BUTTMAN ( Bettman) is head of NHL there will be no Canadian expansion

[@Stormcloakvictory]

The hurricanes should go back to Hartford, not because it makes perfect sense, I just want the Hartford Whalers back hehe.

[@willp.8120]

Why would you not have Atlanta in the league? Atlanta has had the highest MLS attendance for six years running, by far. It isn't even close. Atlanta had the fourth highest MLB attendance in 2022. The Falcons are in the top half of NFL attendance. The Hawks are near the middle of the pack in NBA attendance. Thus, where is this irrationality of Atlanta coming from? Atlanta lost its teams having to do with certain circumstances that COULD HAVE HAPPENED ANYWHERE. It is not a reflection of the city. The Flames left because owner Tom Cousins was a real estate developer and during the Jimmy Carter administration, interest rates were increased dramatically. This increase in interest rates about tanked his business. To keep it afloat, he sold off his profitable asset, the Flames, TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER, which just so happened to be someone who TOOK THEM TO CALGARY, DESPITE MULTIPLE LOCAL BIDDERS. If he had chosen any other, the Flames would probably still be in Atlanta, and Calgary would have gotten an expansion team later. The Thrashers left do to some unfortunate circumstances. The Thrashers, originally owned by Ted Turner, was acquired by Time Warner in an acquisition of Turner Sports. This included the Atlanta Hawks of the NBA, the rights to Philips Arena, and the NHL's Atlanta Thrashers. Time Warner had the hair brained idea to merge with AOL, having no foresight that dial-up internet wasn't long standing. A few years later, AOL-Time Warner, the company as it was called, started facing financial hardships as the transition away from dial up internet took place. In order to stabilize the company, they sold their sports franchises, the Hawks, and Thrashers, and the rights to Philips Arena AS A PACKAGE DEAL. It is the package deal that was the root of what led to the Thrashers' demise. You see, it allowed a group of investors from various cities who WANTED A BASKETBALL TEAM, named ATLANTA SPIRIT GROUP, LLC, who acquired the Thrashers as a way of also getting the Hawks. Most had no interest in hockey, and most wanted to sell the Thrashers right after acquisition. There was a lone investor who did want the Thrashers, and in order to prevent the sale, he took the other investors to court. They lost a tremendous amount of money in LITIGATION COSTS, while simultaneously used most of their revenue to acquire Hawks players for exorbitant salaries, namely Joe Johnson. This left little for the Thrashers and is responsible for their continued dismal performance on the ice, having only one playoff year in which they were swept. Litigation costs forced the Thrashers to sell off most of their good players, and shortly after, the court ruled that Atlanta Spirit Group, LLC, could sell the Thrashers. Atlanta Spirit Group sabotaged any potential buyers keeping the Thrashers in Atlanta. For one, they would not allow any new owner to receive any revenue from concessions or parking, as since Atlanta Spirit Group would still own Philips Arena (THE RESULT OF THE PACKAGE DEAL), Atlanta Spirit Group would get that revenue, not the new Thrashers owners. Secondly, it has been stated multiple times that Atlanta Spirit Group was looking to get the relocation fee from the NHL. They also apparently did not want to have to compete with the Thrashers for fans, and wanted to have Atlanta all to themselves in winter sports with the Hawks. Atlanta Spirit Group also wanted a fee from any potential buyers to USE THEIR ARENA. The loss of revenue coupled with fees to Atlanta Spirit, as well as Atlanta Spirit not taking considerably any strong contenders for sale to keep the team in Atlanta, resulted in people unwilling to take a risk, since this setup would have bankrupted any city's sports franchise. The league was also not flexible in 2011. They would not allow the Thrashers to play at the Gwinnett Arena, an arena that holds about 9,000 fans. Years later, they went off this and now are allowing the Coyotes to play in an arena of about 4,000-5,000 fans. The recession was in full swing during the Thrashers' departure, so this didn't exactly help things either. All this said, it is easy to see that Atlanta's movements had nothing to do with attendance, and all with ownership. Atlanta never was last in attendance, and outsold the Bruins, Blackhawks, and Penguins some years. Atlanta is also a huge city that makes some of these other cities that people list as possible expansion sites look like little cities. Atlanta has the third largest urbanized, built-up area in the USA, and fourth largest in the world. Kansas City? Really? They have less than one third the population of metropolitan Atlanta, and it will become even less than that as Atlanta has robust growth, while Kansas City is kind of stagnant. Atlanta metro has about 6.2 million, while Kansas City has just over 2 million. Lastly, Atlanta and Kansas City both play in the ECHL, and Atlanta's attendance is FAR LARGER. Atlanta's attendance is about sixty percent greater than Kansas City's in 2023. Plus, Atlanta's arena is situated in the far northeast corner of the metro, not downtown, and is difficult for two thirds of the metro area population to even get there, given the distance and traffic. By contrast, while Kansas City does not play in a downtown arena, the suburb they play in is far closer to downtown and is far more accessible to most of the metropolitan area population.

[@Tykoon22]

How many mistakes can you make in one video? Seriously.

[@andredion1726]

My preference would be to reintroduce Quebec City and Hartford to the NHL, with Hamilton being a very close second. With regard to potential team names for a Hamilton franchise, my favourites are 1) Highlanders 2) Imperials 3) Admirals 4) Royals 5) Lions

[@KittyPurrfect100]

Move the Chargers back to San Diego! Move the Ducks to San Diego too!

[@allenrosa3486]

Give the Dakotas one team like Carolina

[@greatestgoalie25]

Thrashers. It's a bird. Not TRASHERS. Nordiques is not pronounced anywhere near how you did it, and I struggle to figure out how you sounded the word out. They were around a long time, it would have taken 10 mins of research to find the proper pronounciation. Geez.

[@chancegg00]

The writing and narrative on this video is horrible

[@Rebel-eq7ul]

Florida goes to Milwaukee and Arizona goes to Kansas City simple.

[@willp.8120]

Send them to Atlanta. Atlanta is about FOUR times the size of Milwaukee.

[@Rebel-eq7ul]

@@willp.8120 that’s fine but Arizona to KC just makes too much sense at this point the Arizona experiment has been the worse thing the league has ever seen

[@willp.8120]

@@Rebel-eq7ul They have been given leeway for over a decade. Atlanta was allowed to have the team snatched after only a few months. Like the Coyotes are the golden child.

[@Rebel-eq7ul]

@@willp.8120 agreed it’s ridiculous. ATL, Hartford, KC, Utah, Baltimore all better options. Arizona is the worst not even a 3peat of cups with Auston Matthews would save them they probably would be like the Marlins and sell away their winners and spiral to nothingness again

[@willp.8120]

@@Rebel-eq7ul If you average attendance amongst markets with three or more teams in the USA, Phoenix is last among all markets, while Atlanta is third in attendance.

[@PrestonErler-kc4bs]

Oregon to become the Oregon Nordiqes

[@kadinwilliams8045]

Sorry... Any expansion without Hartford is a joke...

[@deemalenke7227]

Why not buy the American hockey league

[@julianromero7615]

This video didn’t age well. And it’s Thrashers

[@donaldjacques7962]

Quebec nor-de-K's ?

[@hamersfury5]

Cleveland?

[@DaCraz-eSciTeacher]

Milwaukee is a give-me... Why Wisconsin doesn't have one, is silly and only because of the Blackhawk's owner whose influence is no more.

[@dvferyance]

You must have never been to Milwaukee. It's not big and the Bucks are here. How Milwaukee even got on this list is beyond me.

[@kingjoshtheskigod]

@@dvferyance bro the fixer v forum

[@dvferyance]

@@kingjoshtheskigod That arena was design for basketball only. Even our AHL team doesn't play there.

[@dvferyance]

@@LoveProd The difference is Columbus doesn't have the NBA to compete with.