5 Easy Ways To Fix The Nukaworld DLC In Fallout 4

[@Theegreygaming]

so.... Hearthstone... that's a mistake on my part. As some of you have pointed out, I actually meant "Hearthfire", the DLC for Skyrim that allows you to build player homes. my bad.

[@thecatfather857]

Another mistake: Commander *is* a rank in the Army.

[@Theegreygaming]

um... which army?

[@anthonythanghe4755]

@@thecatfather857not in the US Army.

[@thecatfather857]

@@anthonythanghe4755 Hm... could've sworn there was, last I checked.

[@aaronhodges5378]

Nope. Commander is a Navy rank.

[@sternencolonel7328]

Well my biggest issue with nukaworld, is that you have to ruin your previous gameplay to take full advantage of it. There should be an option to assemble a strike force of the Minuteman and throw the raiders out

[@fireteamcali6803]

There is a really great mod called nuka world plus that lets you do that with all the factions, and it lets you build up Nuka like sim settlements

[@DJ_Bonebraker]

@@fireteamcali6803 I'm actually planning on doing the Nuka World run in my current playthrough with that very mod. One caveat, though, is that it's still kind in beta, but from what I've seem from the dev updates on their discord is that it's mostly down to getting voice work for the NPCs & some bug hunting at this point.

[@martymcyourflysdown6872]

No you don’t, You just have to change the roleplay a bit. During the beginning dialogue Nora asks Nate if he wants to go to the park. For role play purposes I played as Nora and pretended that I was going to Nukaworld (The park) to reminisce. We’ll just say Nora couldn’t cope very well and ended up turning into an evil raider overboss. Then at some point she had a change of heart and redeemed herself with the Minutemen 🙌 So I started a modded survival playthrough and went straight to NukaWorld. The gauntlet was a nightmare but it was fun and rewarding getting thru it on survival at like level 2 lol I sided with the pack and using a mod called FCOM, I led my raider pack thru the commonwealth and took over settlements whenever I felt like. After I completed everything in NukaWorld and got all the perks, I then met Preston and became general of minutemen. Then using my mods (FCOM & MM) I stormed Nuka World with my army of Minutemen, Killed the raiders and now my minutemen patrol Nuka World! 💯 Also if you’re willing to play with mods these 3 are my favorite and I would highly recommend them 🥇 -FCOM -Militarized Minutemen -FCOM MM patch

[@Hervoo]

Yeah! Combine the power of something you helped to build and make a use of it

[@ethan6437]

Bethesda really thinks most players are just gonna do an entirely new play-through when their dlc dropped just so they can squeeze a few extra play hours into their statistics

[@vincentcremers1721]

The only thing I think besides these changes that would also be cool, was an alternative ending to the main storyline. An ending where the raiders reign supreme. It would require a change in post game content, since raiders wouldnt be a problem anymore. But I think it would really fit as a solo faction victory. As no other faction can work together with raiders.

[@Ananonymousguy-nk9oj]

The Institute could, if they see themselves on danger and not being able to defeat them, they could just negotiate a peace treaty where the Institute offers advanced technology to the raiders and supporting them on their mission to colonize the Commonwealth since the Institute doesn't care about territory and the raiders in return give them free reign and slaves to conduct experiments on

[@poncki181]

After finishing the nuka-world dlc gage would approach the mc and tell him that the Raiders found two scientist capable of constructing the teleporter. One is thinker tom and the other is a brotherhood of steel scientist which would trigger a raid against the choosen faction to capture the scientist and force them to construct the machine afterward you get an optionnal objective to extract information from an institute terminal revealling the mass generator has well as instructions on how to take control over the synths. This gives you two choices either take control of the synths and use them to kill everyone in the institute or blow the entire place up (similar to the other factions ending). Going down the controlling path would trigger multiple quests with the objective to destroy all the other factions because none of them wants you to get that kind of power, you would also have quests to gather the nessessery items that you need in order to accomplish your goal. That would be my idea of how to do a raider faction final questline.

[@Wanderlust2430]

It can also be a "Bad ending" where the main factions unite and work together to stop YOU. It could have lead to ANOTHER DLC that follows that story, or even another timeline with a spinoff game similar to Xcom/fallout 1/2 where you command either the raiders or the "allied factions". But bethesda can't innovate anymore, and Emil is a hack who is unable to make commitments (Technically it's todd's direction that leading all factions and not locking out content is a thing but clearly nobody has ever stood up to him)

[@danieldragotti2608]

The best fix is convince gage to go legit. You convince them the raider life style is doomed in the long run and go ligite. The operators(the most liked of the 3) would go along wit it. As a reward you get them to team up with main factions side with and accualy turn nuka world in to a trade hub. Using it to supply your settliments with resorces.

[@phildicks4721]

Yeah, the Operators are the only Raider Gang that is actually worthwhile. The other two are nothing but murderous socipaths and psychopaths.

[@Maxsmack]

This would be an awesome ending

[@Thebdippy]

I may be a victim of mandela myself but I distinctly recall being able to get the Open Season quest from Preston during a dialogue where he's like "this is crazy, right? You're not actually going to side with the raiders?" and you can say "no of course not, let's smoke these turkeys"

[@Adriethyl]

Yes, he gets all pissy and hates you if you already have him as a companion. Though the quest is just the regular solo'ing the three raider gangs

[@Thelordmagedon]

You mention a Single Gang Ending, but I want a three Gang Ending. Isn’t that the point, that you’re supposed to be able to do what Colter couldn’t and get all three gangs to follow you willingly? I think through a combo of Raider Settlements and Side Quests, it should be possible. Maybe also at the last interaction, getting the Rebel Gang that takes over the power plant to stand down by passing a series of speech checks. You’d probably have to speech check each leader to get them not to kill the Rebel Gang Leader.

[@thebigdork8030]

So wierd how Colter/the Player get the short of the stick when it comes to Raiders. Like every other raider group in the commonwealth is a completely apolitcal ruffian ready to kill and follow anyone who promises caps/chems/survival. But Nuka world just so happens to be the one place with distinct raider tribes that will most definitely put thier...politics? Ideology? nah that's too strong. Aesthetic, that works. They're ready to jeapordize nukaworld and the most secure massive raider gang in the continental u.s for the sake of preserving their aesthetic.

[@TheMan-r5q]

I really wish this was possible, and I was bummed my first play through when I realized I had to drop at least one gang.

[@Maxsmack]

Would’ve been much more satisfying

[@mal1362]

Honestly it makes sense that preston dosen't forgive you. You help rebuild the Minutemen you become his friend then boom you just betray him by becoming a raider. Preston before meeting you lost everything, all his friends, all his hope. The man wanted to throw his life away, he wanted to die. And you betraying him? Well he lost his only true friend. So it makes sense he wouldn't want anything to do with a backstabbing traitor on a personal level. But if you do your dirt before becoming his friend hes willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. You two didn't know eachother therefore if you are serious about redemption then theres room to develop a friendship because theres no betrayal getting in the way. Theres no doubts of "he'll probably try to betray me again if i get to close "

[@liamdraper447]

There should’ve been a minutemen ending, so when Shank sends you back to the commonwealth you got an optional quest to see Preston Garvey and tell him you’ve had to do whatever it is the raiders asked, and then build up to do a full scale freedom takeover of nukaworld

[@unfunnyusername9719]

An idea I had for open season is that you could convince some of the lower rank raiders to mutiny against their bosses. After open season, there’s a massive power vacuum, so having some reformed raiders could fix that. Ex operators could run stores, Ex disciples could provide security, and Ex pack could help you deal with wildlife

[@rockowlgamer631]

9:50 I have found a solution for you, I recently did Nuka World and by bringing Preston with me and as soon as I was able to get into the same room with Gage after he helps you kill Colter you kill him right there and Open Season starts automatically plus by doing it right then and there Preston will stay happy with you since you didn't give Gage or the raiders any chance to coerce you into being a raider. It was pretty fun taking on all three gangs.

[@Theegreygaming]

honestly I've never tried bringing Preston along, but that would make a lot of sense.

[@boyzinthewood1]

​@Theegreygaming don't blame you, he's the worst person to have at your side.

[@rockowlgamer631]

​@@TheegreygamingAlso while it's great we got a more open building system compared to Hearthfire, it's really annoying to make a good looking wall on uneven ground unless you put down foundation but that eats into the build limit so it's a lose lose situation. Whereas the other one will no doubt make it feel copy paste but at least it's streamlined.

[@elrondorio]

Isn't Preston's companion perk one of the best to have when dealing with large numbers of attacking Raiders? At least have that, if not him😅

[@boyzinthewood1]

@elrondorio personally, I just chose the "have as much ammo and Mini Nukes as possible" option and hope for the best

[@henrywebb3463]

One additional thing i think should have been done. Give the player a perk for completing open season. Even if it is something simple like "take 10% damages from Raiders". makes you feel like you have to ignore most of the story of the DLC if you kill the raiders (which I do in almost every playthough)

[@DJ_Bonebraker]

Yeah, getting a cool perk like, I dunno, "Nuka World Sherriff" or something like it that gives you a slight damage buff when fighting raiders, trappers & maybe gunners would've been cool.

[@bacd-nn2lg]

My biggest issue with this dlc is lack of opcion to clear out the entire nuka world with Minutemen/Brotherhood of Steel/Railroad/Institute, and then remained there as new npc occupying the entire park. We have somthing similar with Far Harbor DLC were factions like Brotherhood of Steel, Institute could attack Arcadia, Railroad would work with them in the future.

[@alexanderdovris5800]

The reason why there kind of needs to be at least 2 gangs in the ending is because the over boss leverages the gangs against each others to maintain his position and stability. If the operators were the only gang left they would need to decide to work with you and out of the goodness of their heart share their caps with you. (Basically one gang has no need for an over boss) However, I agree with you that there should be an option to conspire with one gang to take over the park. There should probably also be an ending where all three gang survive.

[@EvilParagon4]

Well at that point you wouldn't be an overboss, you'd just be _the_ boss of the now distinct gang of Raiders. It's not hard to see a game where the leverage is thrown out the window in favour of a genuine position of leadership for one gang.

[@Ananonymousguy-nk9oj]

One thing i hate not just about this DLC but the rest as well is the lack of compatibility between each other, i always find myself adding mods to solve that issue

[@theenigmaticst7572]

Completely agree with you about Gage - it would be a lot better to give the player the choice of convincing him and retaining him as a companion, or letting him escape into the wilds, or having to kill him. I also like the idea of having a one gang ending - much more sensible than two gangs with contrasting motivations holding the park. You could extend it a bit, too and have any Commonwealth raider settlement you clear out then become a new home for your chosen raiders in the Commonwealth, and see allied raiders attacking other settlements. The only other things that might be worth considering is expanding Open Season as well - not only being able to call in the Minutemen, but also helping the Slaves stage their own revolt - smuggling weapons, finding the deactivation code for the collars, gathering medical supplies, convincing the other merchants to join in, etc. It's already similar to the Railroad quest in the Institute, so it shouldn't be too difficult to add - and then you can have Nuka Town held by liberated slaves as an end game state. Finally, the thing that always gets me; we're told the whole place is a powder keg - each of the gangs are at each other's throats - and yet we never see this; so why don't we use that to the player's advantage in Open Season? Imagine killing a high-ranking member of one gang and planting evidence (or using some method of killing) that implicates another. This could lead to an all-out war between the gangs involved. I won't add that it would be awesome to have settlement building in each of the park areas, and you could have Kaylor recruit the player to find out what happened to multiple recon squads sent to the park; no need for any NPC in the transit centre. Kaylor would just give you the code to the security station, and you could travel straight to Nuka World (or just hack the master level computer if you want to avoid the Gunners).

[@cstains5543]

One of the ideas I have had for a while on Nuka World is to add additional conquerable regions as well as additional groups, traders and slaves that have needs. You need to balance the desires of the raiders with the needs of all the people for food, goods, etc. The raiders need to eat even if they don't think about it very much so the slaves have to have land to farm and enough farm land to feed everyone, the Nuka Town traders need areas to scavenge parts and items from to sell to the raiders so once again you have to give some amount of land to that effort as well. Balance each group while keeping the raiders from turning on you because they don't se the needs of the whole at all until it's too late. Make it possible to mismanage the whole place into a disaster with everyone either abandoning the park or going to war with each other.

[@GhostOfSnuffles]

7:30 You do have the option of open season after you complete power play. Just don't talk to the doc until after you complete power play and she still gives you the quest to clear out Nukaworld of the remaining two raider groups. I do it all the time because i like the operators and pack perks but i don't want to bother with the raiders after the fact so i always betray them after power play so i can have the perks and still have the satisfaction of killing them.

[@bluegem8582]

Issue is, that's not quite comparable, since that's more leaving quest unstarted deliberately out of own accord rather than npc waiting till captors are weakened to offer choice to betray and free them

[@TheReformedChief]

I like nuka world more than far harbor. I like the whimsy of each of the lands, the new cola flavors, new creatures, and new build elements. Far Harbor is too dark and foggy (as it is designed to be). I’m still a kid at heart, I love Disney World and Pixar movies.

[@juliahamilton8811]

the moments of goofiness in the NW DLC is really refreshing compared to Far Harbor which is dark (figuratively and literally like you said lmao), it’s unfortunate the gameplay blunders gets in the way of how good the NW DLC could be! The contrast of abandoned capitalist family theme park and nuclear apocalypse gang war was a fun concept, and I appreciated the stylistic aspect it brought to the game.

[@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299]

The most glaring problems in Nuka World are, for me, two things: 1. You can't get your fraction to come over, your forced to be a raider. I really wanted to bring the force of the Brotherhood down on these raiders so badly! 2. Once your done nothing really regenerates. Once they are dead no new things happen= no replay value I'd love it if we had the option of getting Evan to become the leader of Nuka World :)

[@andrewjmichael]

I loved Nukaworld mainly for the setting and what it added to the vanilla fallout 4 loop. They absolutely nailed the feeling of a defunct theme park, and the variety of the different zones and the thematic details of each really made going through them memorable even though the underlying narrative left a lot to be desired. I love that a lot of the background characters really stand out and are given little moments- Dixie of the Disciples (who I get the feeling had a lot of cut content tied to her), Cito in the jungle zone with the ghoulrillas (ridiculous character, yes, but this series has plenty). I love that Sierra Petrovita gets a little mission and is oblivious to the fact that she's surrounded by raiders. Far Harbor had a compelling narrative and some great locations as well, but it was very bleak for the most part, both in story and setting. Nuka World is a big bright joke of a DLC and I love it.

[@LaylaSpellwind]

I'd like if the gangs were more accurate to their aesthetic. If disciples had the bloody mess perk. Operators would actually trade. And most importantly. If the Pack had animal companions that joined them in combat. Like Yao Guai and things. Making them actually represent what it feels like they should be. Instead of them all fighting the same way, except the disciples occasionally use melee.

[@nikoladedic6623]

Nuka World Plus gives Pack tamed Gatorclaws, but only after Open Season.

[@rossgauthier6352]

Another fantastic video! As usual, your improvements would have made the DLC next level.

[@SlipNperiodSlide]

The expansion of Evan’s content and having the lands outside the theme park proper be worth exploring would’ve definitely been enough for me to say it’s at least even with Far Harbor, I’d probably have more than 100 hours

[@RedDogForge]

Evan's story tears me up every time. I don't ever take a thing and leave him supplies. Rip Evan Maybe we'll meet in the next respawn.

[@toakongu1]

Would love to see somebody use these videos as the base for a line of mods. The "Grey Gaming 5 Easy Ways to Fix Everything in Fallout 4" pack

[@Crackmiser]

I’m genuinely surprised you didn’t mention a way to keep all three gangs. I split it up 2 - 2 - 1 on my first playthrough was pissed that I essentially wasted a park on a gang what would betray me. I really think there should have been a way to make all 3 gangs happy if you went full raider. Like in older fallout gangs this dlc would have have had that ending every time unless you FULLY committed to being an evil raider overlord.

[@EvilParagon4]

I think the problem there is that an ending with one gang against you is the more interesting (but less satisfying) ending. Evenly dividing the park or simply passing speech checks would not have been compelling and most people would have experienced the 3 gang ending if it existed. If there was a way to be smart about it and "hide" the 3 gang ending, then sure it could work, definitely.

[@Evelyn-qt3hi]

@@EvilParagon4 They could've kept the betrayal, but had it possible to convince them to stand down at the last confrontation. Maybe if you do an individual side quest for each of the gang leaders, then you have the option to convince the two loyal gangs to not immediately kill the leaders of the third if possible, and then you can also convince the gang leader that betrayed you to come back into the fold. Then you get all three gangs back and still have the betrayal and fight at the power station

[@Hervoo]

I'd love to see your version of Nuka World as a mod! All of those ideas combined into biggest fix for that DLC! It's my favorite dlc for Fallout 4 and I'm feeling so sorry that raiders are the only option here, and after killing them this place will be empty forever with naked traders, I really hope someone is going to combine all those ideas into mod

[@paavis9987]

not to mention that Bethesda really didn't take in count their own Survival difficulty with the DLC. the raider side of quests has you travelling between commonwealth and nuka world multiple times (when setting up raider bases), but since fast travel isn't a thing for survival, you're forced to watch the opening Nuka Express ride each time you enter Nuka World

[@jcohasset23]

It would have been nice if there was a way to skip the Nuka Express ride after the first or second time on it as other than looking around there is nothing the player can do until the tram arrives in the station (even if you no-clip out you can't move until the train would reach the station). It really feels like Bethesda was expecting players to just use fast traveling to get everywhere because they understand the maps are just big enough to be a pain to run all the way across each time.

[@patrickgoodwin3085]

I really feel that we as players should have been given a lot more choices, like you decide infiltrate the nuka world gangs in order to wipe them out, but you can go about it in many different ways and when/if Preston asks you about it, you can tell him and he would go along with it, since they are to powerful to just wipe out all at once and maybe even some decide that being part of the gangs is no longer for them and you have to help them escape without being caught doing so.

[@dancingbird]

For the creature one, you can get Mutant Menagerie: Life Finds A Way! It adds a crapton of animals and some bosses into the commonwealth and the DLCs. it makes Nuka World less desolate and feels more alive. Without spoiling the animals in it, lets just say a lot of the animals fit with the Safari Adventure park. Its a must on all my play throughs. Its 400 mb but its so so worth it imo

[@dancingbird]

I think there's seven bosses in the Nuka World DLC and there's even a quest to hunt them all down. It's very fun

[@CollideFan1]

Leave it to mods to fix the game. The Mutant Menagerie mods are always in the load order.

[@thecatfather857]

5:02 The Brotherhood could *absolutely* topple all three gangs on their own.

[@somebloke3869]

It would be interesting to see, I'm not so confident that they would win without Liberty Prime. There are many raiders and all three gangs would unite to defeat an outside force.

[@PoliceTelephoneBox]

It's very obvious that Nuka World wasn't finished, just shipped out while mostly functional.

[@patrickgoodwin3085]

On the note of having to help someone to escape, you can talk to Lizzie and find out that she doesn't like doing what she does. It's kill or be killed and Nisha keeps her on a short leash and she is forced to do what she does and her being bloodthirsty is all set up so people will fear her and she wants out to live as she pleases or you're able to send her to a settlement of your choice. Also, some of the gang members will try to hunt her down (even when you wipe out the gang). They just re-establish themselves with a different leader somewhere else, regroup and start their blood thirsty reign of terror once agin where you have to deal with them again, but in this instance, make them even more powerful, so the fight isn't as easy.

[@SeizetheMetal]

I absolutely HATE having to play the mini game to get DIMAS memories. It’s so boring

[@noahthonnard293]

Things I would love to see: Assimilate other raider tribes into the Nuka World gangs; Turning The Forged, Rust Devils, Trappers, and maybe even the Gunners / Triggermen. Quest to bring the Hallucinogen gas to the Operators to use in a modified Minuteman Artillery system to certain locations and turn the settlements/targets crazy. Shakedown good neighbor, Bunker hill, and Dimond city for caps, chems, booze, etc. by either threatening them or attacking and eliminating key figures. Faction Rivals: if the minuteman/Brotherhood/Institute/railroad are still around they will actively work against you. More involvement in settling disputes between gang bosses; cast judgement on disobedient raiders type of thing.

[@Insane234]

Honestly a post Open Season can involve inviting the Minutemen or faction or factions of your choice in to rebuild the park... The Minutemen would want more secure land for people and look after the freed slaves The Railroad would probably see it as a new safehouse possibility to send Synths The Brotherhood would probably seek to refit it as a weapons manufactory. The Institute would likely see it as a chance to do more experiments (much like Vault Tech in Space Land) So if you have Minutemen and Railroad you can invite both and have both work together to build up the area as a place where humans and Synths live together. (You being a Railroad Heavy, the Minutemen General, and the one who wiped out three raider gangs can ensure no incidents happen) Or maybe as Minutemen General you can stage a full on invasion of Nukaworld instead of entering it normally through the gauntlet (maybe with the Intel from Harvey or the Gunner you mentioned they find a different way in)

[@jefferydraper4019]

Exact points I just posted of why it would appeal to factions.

[@knicksprop]

I definitely like these suggestions. As someone who has longed for the chance to be a real baddie in games, I generally like supporting the Raiders, and while I would opt more for all gangs surviving (as it never made sense to me why Colter didn't get the Power Plant turned on before), I could see the case for a single gang option (and that may contribute to WHY Colter didn't get the Power Plant turned on). Mods address this, but making the parks settlements seemed to be a no brainer considering how FO4 was set up with settlements. I think also, if one were to go to Nuka world prior to meeting Preston, then meeting him, dialogue with him you tell him you are Overboss and then dialogue changes where, you can speech check and choose dialogue to support him or refuse him and he and the others become hostile, thereby removing the Minuteman ending, but replacing it with a Raider path for the main game. (That being said, I think the same could be said of Far Harbor factions to a degree and I don't even want to get into how in the main game, your choice is to support the Institute or destroy it; unless of course, mods). I think the part about the creatures highlights something else in that there isn't much reason for the player to explore the different parts of the map. There are all these people, especially Gunners, around the Raider parks but how many come into contact with them, unless they really go out and explore on their own. Most people suggest doing something with the Minutemen to take out the Raiders; I would actually propose that a different option would be something where the SS enlists the support of the various Gunners in and around Nuka World. Maybe they have a different faction name, and are more looking for a base to set up shop and recruit after a falling out with the CW Gunner leadership (and to eventually wage war with them which could be part of the next Fallout game). Among those being an anti-slavery policy so the traders can now stay there being under the protection of this "Gunner" faction, while not having to be slaves. I also like the idea with Gage. I would extend that to Old Longfellow of Far Harbor (would have to be a red speech check as you are nuking his hometown, but you could convince him the people of Far Harbor have grown weak; I never enjoy killing the guy, but Glory to Atom!)

[@platypusfox73]

I always felt that if you had Nuka world installed there should be an option during the When Freedom calls quest where you could side with the Raiders instead of Preston. You do this and they say hey we work for this Coltor guy in Nuka world you should go and meet him..doing this would allow you to skip the gauntlet and the Raiders would more or less replace the minuteman and you be doing the settlement stuff with them without running into the problem of your raiding your own settlements. You probably would work with Coltor for awhile until given the option to overthrow him and become the new overboss and of course there be a new option where you have the choice to have the Raiders fight the instuite. I don't know those were just always my thoughts on the matter.

[@milestonechild]

I thought a lot about your content on Nuka World. I always felt like the only option that was cohesive with being the lone survivor and defeating the institute was liberating the slaves. There is another way that makes sense! I played as a minuteman general and murder hobo who takes on the responsibility of controlling these nuka gangs. I have a place in my heart for greedy “trying to survive” raiders and “party-till-you-die” raiders, but I have no stomach for blood lust. When the disciples inevitably storm the power plant, I turned on Nisha. I turned on the power and began to spread peace and understanding to the remaining raiders. I paid the settlers to leave the commonwealth spots along the extremes on the map: Coastal Cottage, Somerville, Nordhagen, Lighthouse. (Getting the children to basically disappear from seeing more killing) Greentop Nursey had 1 person living there, so he would supply 1 settlement with food I was paying for. Preston gets mad and says he won’t be your friend anymore, but FINE. He is a bad friend. He gives you things to go do instead of doing much of his own. He’s a bad leader. When he finds out about your nuka settlements, he sends minutemen to DIE fighting your nuka raiders. I took away and scrapped every weapon and armor from the pack and operators in the common wealth. THEY ARE JUST LEARNING to be farmers. And they can still punch the lights out of the minutemen when they attack. Seems like I united the two world rather well. Raider gangs can’t have weapons, but can grow food and have all the chems and booze they want to make. Settlers and minutemen get weapons and armor and can have their freedom.

[@geraldlamb9587]

I really think there needed to be a completely alternate quest line where you could recruit NPCs specifically created for the purpose of helping you take out the Raider gangs, liberating Nuka World, and then becoming new soldiers/traders/residents affiliated with Nukatown USA and the various parks. Maybe have perk rewards for that alternative quest line that aren't quite as nice as the Raider gang perks, but which still reward a "good guy" playthrough.

[@woodysmith2681]

I agree on Harvey as the lead-in but I think the reason is what you stated: people have to start the quest at a point where VD speech checks are passable unless playing against Charisma entirely. That flows into the "I saved the Commonwealth as a Minuteman, but then I got bored, so..." playthroughs.

[@admiralthunderbunny4520]

I'd love an option to have the Operators go with me to take out the Institute, as an alternate ending. Pack and Disciples wouldn't make much sense for this, due to their inherent mental instability.

[@bradhudson4111]

Definitely have Evan’s home a buildable settlement that would have been cool

[@NanoScream]

The entire DLC was focused around the Raiders, if you decided to not be a raider and do Open Season then you spent money for a glorified Kill Raider Gang at X radiant quest. You can't just tweak one or two things and it's somehow gotten better, the entire DLC needs to be reworked from the ground up.

[@lartonki]

And even when going to play it at least to get all trophys, it feels something that is not fun. And when having to play game through allready multiple times far harbor and automatron are still decent to play through while nuka-world is something that you go there have one tough fight to kill all raiders and after that it feels that nuka-world is over

[@DJ_Bonebraker]

As one of those PC players who is not only not afraid of the all powerful console command, but uses it regularly for precision placement of settlement objects, I used it to dress up the traders at the marketplace with outfits I felt fit (e.g. gave the weapon seller military fatigues & combat armor, Mackenzie a labcoat, etc). Well except the chem seller: As zonked out as he seems to be him wandering around in his skivvies is both thematic & hilarious. I also agree that there was a lot of missing opportunities with the new critters in Nuka World, like I wish you could trap & tame Brahmaluffs & Antelopes & maybe gatorclaws (via the beta wave emitter). The ommission is especially egregious in the case of the Brahmaluffs, because they are mutant variety of Water Buffalo, which are domesticated & used in Southeast Asia for the same purposes that cattle are used in the West. Also agree with some of your points regarding open season & optional single raider ending & Open Season over all. Disagree with Porter being one of the best companions, though, but that is likely because his Darwinistic outlook on life rubs me the wrong way on a genetic level: My great-grandfather was Jewish, and my one grandaunt by marriage was a Holocaust survivor, so I'm all too well aware of where that sort of thinking inevitably leads, and that is part of why Porter is one of two companions who ends up on the "guaranteed to be dead by the end of a playthrough" list for me, the other being the similarly Darwinistic X6-88, but I digress. Also, in my first playthrough, I played along with the raiders until I completed Amoral Combat, but I never did the quest from Shank to start raiding the Commonwealth (I just avoided him after completing the Grand Tour & assigning all the parks to raider gangs), and as soon as I got the Aeternus, I went to Mackenzie, started th Open Season quest, went back to the Commonwealth, picked up Preston & proceeded to wipe out all the raiders in the entire park with him, and Preston never got angry at me & was still best of friends after it was all said & done. The key is that (1) you must not have Preston along when you do "Taken for a Ride" and (2) never plant a raider flag in the Commonwealth prior to starting Open Season, and basically avoid talking to Preston until after you accept the quest from Mackenzie. Still, I'm just glad that there are mods out there like Better Open Season, Nuka World Plus and/or Nuka World Reborn, since they all address many of the issues you mention in this video. I think there is even a mod that lets you get Brahmaluffs & Antelopes for your settlements, because I remember Relly Girl's Castle showcase video had some Brahmaluffs & Antelopes in the farm area of her build (This video was what finally convinced me to get Fallout 4 & start settlement building).

[@The-three-eyed-Prophet]

what i hate about open season is that the slaves dont even know that they are free at the ende that nuka world does not turn into a real settlement and real trade city like diamond city ...

[@abrax45]

honestly the best way to set up the intro, in my opinion, is to just not have a bleeding/injured guy at all. instead, you walk into the transit center to see gunners fixing up the monorail and trying to unlock it so that they can go to Nuka World. you do what any sensible person does to the Gunners and snatch the passcode off one of their corpses and get on. plus, whenever you get to Nuka World and see the gauntlet, the monorail is shut down so you have no choice BUT to go. granted it’s a basic intro, but it makes more sense than to have someone made to lure you into the trap when you can also have them spill the beans that it’s a trap and just not go in the first placw

[@JorTanos]

There's a zoo in Nukaworld, no? Should be a way to restore it and capture local critters and put them on display, alive and relatively healthy.

[@HadesCowboy]

The biggest fix they could have done would be letting you *side with the raiders* to beat the game. Add in quests where your absorbing or eliminating raider gangs in the commonwealth and deploying your raiders in their bases, taking out the BoS with a raider attack (I'm thinking like a ground attack against the airport to steal some virtibirds to take you and a small army of raiders up to the airship to plant a bomb) invade the institute and the railroad. Then eventually take over diamond city and make a Raider State where your the "Raider in chief"

[@jesternario]

I think the one thing I would've liked to have seen would have been gameplay where you actually somehow whip the gangs into making the place a decent place to be, creating an actual non-raider kingdom. It would've been pretty interesting, and it's a shame they didn't do that.

[@palpatine84]

The thing I would have liked is the option to finish the vanilla main story with the raiders. I can storm the Institute with a Minute man army, so why not a raider army?

[@joseestevezhernandez558]

The only real drawback i see to nukaworld... Is to wait to lvl 30 to begin... Those lazy ass settlers ain't gonna beat themselves into submission alone

[@NOLAgenX]

Strange that the traders all lose their clothing for you after Open Season. I’ve done it 12 times and have yet to see this happen.

[@bigearl1624]

It might be a PC only bug. I've never seen it happen, and I play on Xbox.

[@NOLAgenX]

@@bigearl1624 I’m on PC only, so that’s not it.

[@TheZombieMack]

Is it weird that, of the three DLC companions, the reason why I liked Automaton so much is because I actually thought ADA was the best of the three?

[@jcohasset23]

Ada is an awesome companion due to how tanky she can be, how much she can carry, and that she's like Dogmeat in not having any likes/dislikes.

[@jefferydraper4019]

@@jcohasset23 I swear I just give Dogmeat a nice doghouse and a populated settlement and just a pet now and again. He just doesnt cut it after the first few levels. I seriously need to look at building ADA up. Im sick of the Like/Dislike crap.

[@jcohasset23]

@@jefferydraper4019 Using the Lone Wanderer perk is the only real good reason to keep using him once the player has access to other companions. His DPS is just too low to be really useful and since he can only do melee it's easy for him to get in over his head. His pathfinding around the player can also be extremely annoying from him getting in the way so often. I still really wonder if originally the player was going to have Dogmeat and another companion at the same time but it was axed during development due to major complications. The Like/Dislike works well if it's a companion that fits the player's play style or how they're roleplaying but it can set up all sorts of limitations in what the player can do since some of the companion perks are quite useful but can take awhile to acquire.

[@jefferydraper4019]

@@jcohasset23 I miss F3 when he didnt actually count against the number. You could also finagle a couple other people to follow you as long as you avoided certain areas. I had Dogmeat, the Supr Mutant, 3 kids destined for Big Town, and Sydney you found looking in the Archives. All the humans in Enclave power armor. We wuz a gang. I also glitched and somehow had Charon and the Super Nutant both somehow but I had to reload and lost him.

[@TheZombieMack]

@@jcohasset23 Exactly she doesn't whine at you constantly for picking up junk for upgrades.

[@DemibatHasFun]

I didn't expect to tear up from a fallout video.

[@Smergle_the_Dog]

Grey: the raiders are to powerful and none of the main factions are able to take them on by themselves Me: *looks up at the commi destroying robot *

[@woodrobin]

Why does Preston Garvey forgive your raider past if you do Nuka-World first, but not if you do Open Season after alienating him? There's a pretty simple in-game reason that would explain it: When you literally fulfill Mama Murphy's prophecy and save him and the rest of the folks in the museum, you fully become a savior figure in Preston's mind. He rushes to appoint you the new General of the Minutemen because he's put you up on a pedestal and vested all his hopes in you. *Nothing* you did *before* that moment will deter him from idolizing you. You could already be Railroad agent synth-spympathizer, a Brotherhood of Steel techno-fascist slapping your shiny metal dick all over the Commonwealth, an Institute operative -- he won't care. But if you break his fantasy of you as a perfect paragon of hope for the restoration of the Minutemen and the redemption of every failure he thinks he's guilty of and every death he thinks he's caused, all of that adoration turns to ash and he will 100% never forgive you for that. That makes perfect sense given how irrationally he builds you up in the first place.

[@juliantarbs]

I really love the tribute to Evan it’s so sweet

[@brothers_of_nod]

those would have indeed make Nukaworld better. I do like Nukaworld as a DLC, being able to carve out a raider empire was nice, and I would have liked to have done it with the Operators exclusively, they seem like people who would have been able to hold something together and not make a zoo or a butcher shop out of the commonwealth

[@abrahambobst4602]

They are also the best looking, and the most unraider like, and more organized crime vibe.

[@mnk9073]

The true joy of Nuka World is to attack Commonwealth settlements and hearing Preston cry about "a settlement is under attack". I know Preston, I know, it's me, I am attacking your f*cking settlement.

[@tlrlml]

#6 - Post-Open Season game play - park settlement/park tourism; Optional (dependent on completing Open Season) workshops in each of the parks, with appropriate materials to 'repair' local attractions, and tourists (not necessarily settlers) that provide player income. This gives the player a reason (beyond completionism) to open the parks after killing off the raiders. Tie this in with a faction claim system, either park wide or by individual park, which provides guards (again not necessarily settlers) for the park or parks. Post game Open Season, for those who do not wish to become raiders (for whatever reason) at all, leaves only the opening of the individual parks. But, opening the parks is completely optional and gives no benefit beyond the loot that is available. Some might argue that is sufficient, but, from a role-playing perspective (Fallout _is supposed to be_ an RPG, afterall(!)) it is just a very extended self-motivated fetch quest. Once done, you could choose never to revisit, and with a DLC of this size and complexity - that is a severe waste of potential!

[@misterskarbero5374]

call me crazy but contraptions and automatron are my faves

[@misterskarbero5374]

@Grey Gaming Love the videos btw!!!!

[@todd.cannon]

I was already irritated with Gage and the raiders when I was making my way through the gauntlet but my decision to destroy them all was cemented when I saw how the traders were enslaved. The suggestion that we expand into the Commonwealth was just the final nail in their collective coffin.

[@FebrithDarkstar]

I do enjoy your "what ifs" and ideas - though I have to say I love Nuka World and it's my favourite DLC whereas I honestly thought Far Harbour was just blergh - but I'm clearly in the minority! :)

[@DragonxFlutter]

1 Easy Fix to Nukaworld: Give your devs and writers the time to actually cook and stop promoting a mindset of "oh, the modders will fix it!", TODD.

[@abrahambobst4602]

Only Nuka World is far more buggier than the other content, and thus more cumbersome to mod for, or so it seems.

[@DragonxFlutter]

@@abrahambobst4602 I remember someone saying that an entire quest broke for him (the magician glowing one ghoul), so he couldn’t finish it.

[@abrahambobst4602]

@@DragonxFlutter Yeah, I have had that quest break for me too due to not going to his cutscene locations in the proper order. Normally, you can do a BGS quest in order but they dropped the ball in Nuka World, especially that Kiddie Kingdom quest.

[@DanDantheMagicMan]

I think I’d make three big changes Give you a dual storyline that’s satisfying for both good and bad playthroughs, gage will stay with you and will develop differently as a character based on the choice/choices you make in the story, make nukaworld a settlement in some way or have it have dynamic features that can change

[@BxBxProductions]

Loved the DLC. But it requires a lot of research to navigate the oddities typical BGS games have with quests and the order in which you play them. Left Open Season for last and left Gage the last person alive but he'll aggro when you get close. More could be done especially on the outskirts too.

[@deamondeathstone1]

Also with one surviving gang, you could have the choice of going to the commonwealth or not. Because the Operators seem like the type of gang that could be transformed into a goverment over time, while the other two seem like the could be either violent raiders (the Disciples) or conquerors (the Pack). That would give a good, neutral and bad ending to go with the paragon one

[@SwearMY]

I would have loved to have met the Nuka World radio operator. That could have been interesting.

[@jefferydraper4019]

Where did he even broadcast from????

[@RedWolfWindgear]

I think a new companion besides Gage would have been great. Like someone who's against the Raiders joins you to take them down. So, if a pure good person. You got that option and not feel got to be evil to get the in-game goodies. I'd even make this character know who you are and meet in the gauntlet. Who is happy to finally get some needed back up.

[@jefferydraper4019]

Cito

[@RedWolfWindgear]

@@jefferydraper4019 I liked him with the apes. So, Cito as a companion would have been awesome.

[@jefferydraper4019]

@@RedWolfWindgear I did too. Im doing a replay (havent played F4 since 2017) and just finished Safari Land yesterday. He really was pretty fun to fight with. I can see him being a badass close combat companion especially with Grognaks axe...or the Throatslicer that I just bought.(I was tired of using up all my ammo on ghouls, etc...) I seriously need a better shotgun too.

[@DaedricLord0109]

My Nuka world is purple

[@Swiper1400]

thank god i’m not the only one

[@phecto]

After clearing the gauntlet I just start stealth killing the raiders until they are dealt with, so no issues with Preston. Then move on to clearing the rest of the park sections, doing the cappy quest, and visiting the haunted mansion. Didn't even know about the Evan thing and don't remember having even visited that location.

[@charlesclark3872]

8:45 I never had the traders remove their collars and was really confused on why they keep them on and why there was no option to attempt it, glad to know my game is bugged lol

[@Stand_with_Israel]

I just wish you could've turned each park into a settlement and set up a minutemen outpost

[@jcohasset23]

For me I think the big things that would have fixed Nukaworld are 1) have turning on the power plant be an available mission once Grand Tour is done instead of having to do Open Season or wait for Power Play as aside from exploring the areas outside of the park there isn't much to do in the park outside of the hub area until the power is on, 2) have the Fizztop Grille be an actual player home that the player can edit even if it means the entire Grille is in an interior cell. The current interior not being connected to the main outside area makes any kind of crafting there tedious, 3) an option to speechcheck Gage during Open Season that has him leave Nukaworld or if the player has his affinity perk a speechcheck that has him willing to side with the player along with improvements to Open Season itself, 4) more stuff to do outside of the park that isn't just a one and done clear- and that could include doing something more with Evan since his place really is in the middle of nowhere, 5) more to do in the parks after clearing them- each park does offer something once the power has been turned on (though Safari Adventure's is bugged and accessible even before and it's possible to get into Dry Rock Gulch's and Galactic Zone's early) but they aren't really worth experiencing more than once, and 6) more for the raiders in the Commonwealth to do (even if it is fun watching them own the BoS while the player is doing a BoS ending even as they control all the settlements as Overboss).

[@medoagamer9497]

Pretty good video. I felt it was odd how only Preston gets mad at you for becoming a raider. I felt more companions should have gotten mad at you like Nick, Piper, Danse, Codsworth, Decon, Curie and so forth. Plus I really want to beat the quest line without being a raider since when I play Fallout, I tend to only do good karma runs (I know Karma is M.I.A. in FO4 but I still want to be a good guy) but I really wise there was more to open season.

[@seangray8585]

One of my big frustrations with this DLC was the gauntlet itself. The first time I hit this DLC, I was overlevelled for the gauntlet, so it was "eh, whatever, a meatgrinder"; but on the next playthrough, I got one of the Railroad random clear quests from the caretaker that forced me to go to the DLC region to advance the Railroad at level 25ish. So I hit level 30 and tried to slip in and out (forgetting about the grinder). Once you enter the gauntlet, it's a choice between (a)complete this deathtrap, including an absolute bullet sponge of a boss, or (b) load an earlier save and not go anywhere with the faction random location story/radiant quest until you've had a chance to spec yourself out for dealing with it. It was pure frustration, all to arrive at a location and kite some radscorpions in to clear out the residents so that the Caretaker and Railroad would give me a pat on the back and the next quest. The next one in the queue is that it's such a major breakaway from how you've had to play to get there in the first place. You spend 30-40 levels fighting raiders and helping locals, and now to explore this DLC you switch sides?

[@lartonki]

When you are high level that gauntlet is like "is this even some kinda challenge" few turrets and some traps that you dont even trigger when having right perks, or that when you open door and few grenades pop out that you kinda dodge easily (imagine opening door and letting deathclaw free, that would be mutch more fun)

[@ChewyGoPewPewy]

So another thing to add about the institute’s opinion, on the raiders of nuka world, the technology that they could use from project cobalt. Now that I think about it that could also be about the brotherhood of steel as well. That’s all

[@jackmack4181]

Personally I really wanted some of the original factions from the base game to have some influence on dlc like in farharbor. And like what you suggest at 10:40 of his turning over a new leaf, I imagine depending on what faction you use to kill the raiders and save the traders will cause Gage to think “hey these guys are quite strong” and ditch the raiders. Imagine gage is gone for a few in game days then you find him as a Minuteman Diplomat, BoS Knight, Railroad Agent or an Institute spy, and he talks about how his new job is basically like the old one but with a few benefits

[@jak3284]

Commenting for the dust cover! I hope you get it dude. 😤

[@cosmicentitydragon2946]

It would've been nice if they filled out the map more. Besides the town and park, it's really barren.

[@ReplicaGT350]

Those crickets kicked my tail sooooo many times... it was easier to take out the gatorclaws than the crickets!

[@jeghaterdegforfaen]

By the time I entered the Nuka World area, I had already built up most of the settlements in the Commonwealth. So I had spent a lot of time and effort creating a network of functioning settlements, with supply lines in between them, and equipping some NPCs with better armor and weapons. In a sense, I felt like I was the ruler of the Commonwealth, so it made no sense to me that the game wanted me to attack my own "kingdom". Open Season was the only option for me. I might try a playthrough were I go all in with the raider stuff, without bothering with the settlements.

[@chriskoloski32]

I could have sworn that preston garvey gave me an ultimatum, to either go back and kill every raider or be public enemy number 1.

[@danielmaloney6461]

Wait?? It got patched out? I didn't do this myself but I thought you could favor one faction over the others and the other two would rebel. That sucks! You did give me a great idea for a new playthrough. Do Nuka world before minutemen and go through a redemption arc. Thanks! I'm a sucker for those. I did it in a Starfield playthrough with the Crimson Fleet. I also think Oswald, the Tarzan guy and robots should be recruitable as companions or allies to kill the raiders. Oswald is my favorite character from Nuka world. I can never bring myself to kill him.

[@QualityPen]

Sartorially… Interesting word I’d never heard of before.

[@Kithkanen]

Evan's refit would be great. Aside from that, I'm commenting for the Al Gore Rhythm.

[@SBrown7525]

Any of these options would have made nuka better. We should have also been able to liberate the parks and set settlers to them, turning nuka world into a new city. Which all base factions could have wanted a peace of.

[@therakshasan8547]

In Nukaworld I always take the Clear out the entire park. Reward none of the areas to any gang. By that point Cage gives you his perk . Then I kill off all the gangs including Cage . Preston keeps his friendship of the player .

[@michaelproctor8100]

8:40 The Fallout 4 Unofficial Patch fixes that clothing bug. It also fixes the smoking turrets bug at Covenant.

[@vergilsgamingchair8772]

Evan... Oh no, It's Erik The Slayer all over again. I'm gonna cry myself to sleep tonight :(

[@SomeRandoQuacko]

Playing Nuka World, one of the biggest surprises was how empty Open Season was, it didn't feel like an actual part of the plot.

[@MrDmnhntr777]

I like nuka world But I personally think one of the ways to fix it at least if you’re like me and generally play a good character I almost never side With the Raiders but I hate it that after I go through and clear all of these parks and wipe out all the Raiders nobody comes in to fill the spot it just becomes empty except if you were able to save some of the robots There’s a couple of fixes I think that could be for that it would’ve been awesome to see some traders come in and open up shop in some of the vendor stalls maybe have some wasteland travelers going through another option Could be to finish the quest by informing your faction and going in to wipe them out especially if you were in the Minuteman kind of something along the lines of clearing out the synths in Acadia. Doing something like that and then have the minute men stick around And occupy the place would be really nice even having a combination of the two actually I think that would be ideal for me

[@innocentqwa4630]

Personally, I liked Nuka world. The things is, I didn't like it more than Far Harbor. I agree with a lot of the ideas you had though. The one biggest issue I DO have with the DLC is that the most fleshed out ending for a game/DLC tends to be the canonical one.... Where is the least fleshed out ending in this one is where your character doesn't end up as a raider boss which I just can't imagine after your character joins and works for any of the main factions in Fallout 4.

[@Drafonni]

You could make this a trilogy and review mods that try to fix Nuka-World next. Nuka World Plus and Viva Nuka-World are the main 2 options for that btw

[@itsssnek810]

I was so confused at the Hearthstone style workshop for Evan.. Like i was trying to think how that Card game Hearthstone could be utilized for Evans home as a settlement

[@stephenaleitner]

I always felt that Evan's home should have been a workshop settlement

[@realpunkfruit]

maybe it was just my state of mind at the time but nukaworld was by far the most enjoyable video game experience of my life lmao ill always have a soft spot for it :)

[@willmarsden7657]

Evans Construction could serve as a marshalling ground for Minutemen to build an army to storm Nuka World 😅

[@NarbsTheGreat]

Yknow you could keep Harvey if you pass his checks to reveal whats going on, just have it so yoir determined to go and wipe out the raiders for him, or give him a personal attachment like a family member etc