5 Fullsize Overland Pros and Cons

[@Truth-and-the-life]

Size truly is the only negative...just makes the trail a bit more of a challenge. More benefits IMO. With regards to build cost, the large trucks is a cheaper build cost as everything is HD. Add-a-leaf, air bags to my coils and 295s in my 18s, Leer toper off FBM, my was relatively cheap to build. I even used a 2" receiver load carrier (Harbor Freight) for my Jerry cans when in the up position. My goal was not to go crazy on the $$. BTW, just put in the new Wildpeak AT4w, DANG...love them! It has taken me over 5 years to build. With a roof top rent, a second amendment box on top, sleeping quarter for 2 inside, portable toilet for the misses, portable shower (rinsekit), 2000 watt inverter, 12 gallons of water on board, full set of tools, food for 14 plus days, 200 watts solar, 100 ah lithium battery, (plus 2 marine batteries for my truck)....yeah, my rig is built. I refused the beed lock wheels, ARB front bumper etc....as you mentioned the weight and for me the cost. A good Bull bar for deer strikes and my light bar? Why not 😅 Anywhoo...using a F250/2500 platform is the bomb. The amount of dough to make a Tacoma work and it cannot tow worth the crap. I have a lifted Wolf Pup 17jg, I been watching a lot of Aussie 'overlanding' stuff. Same deal, $120k for an off road RV, stupid. Larger tires and air down, done 😅😅😅 yeah, I'm cheap. 1200 watts of solar and 600 ah lithium batteries, boon docking with an RV is sweet. All the best brother. Thanks for the info.

[@rebeloutdoors1621]

Sounds like a heck of a build!

[@Sdukes001]

For me the biggest thing is I already own a 3500 Cummins and don’t have a “dedicated” overland rig like a jeep, Cherokee or something like that. It’s cheaper to just build onto my truck rather than get another one.

[@marcochavanne]

It’s cheaper to use your diesel to pull a dedicated trail rig. Built Toyota buggies can be found for around $10k. That’s cheaper than the Carli lift.

[@Ricardo_Wade]

I overland a 2002 suburban z71 on 37s, I defenatly stick out in the crowd, as you've said I've taken that thing in places it just shouldn't have been 😂 but after owning it and learning by experiencing it I love it, I'm a family of 6 so I was kinda limited on vehicle type, the tahoe has no space in the cargo area so that left me with the suburban with rear end locker

[@rebeloutdoors1621]

Sounds awesome!

[@fishingforlunker]

Great video. I like to have everything I need. I just ordered a 2024 2500 at4x. Still deciding how to rig it up. I am going to check out your other video's. Thanks for taking the time to make them all. 👍👍👍

[@rebeloutdoors1621]

Happy to help!

[@TonyPompa160SOAR]

Great video! I agree with everything. We travel with a 10 year old and 2 dogs sometimes. So having the full size Tahoe is great so we can bring lots of comforts but, when we were down in Overland the Red weight and size limited us quite a bit.

[@rebeloutdoors1621]

Thank you! Yes it does down there!

[@waxifari5528]

Great video. I was torn knowing we are a growing family of four. But watching the full side rigs 3 point turn over the switchbacks of the abyss in Moab was all I needed to know. Love my midsize and as a former backpacker I love the struggle to keep it minimal as you mentioned.

[@rebeloutdoors1621]

Thank you!

[@Chubbydippin]

You bring up good points for and against full size truck builds. Very helpful, thankyou. Please stop saying the word "like" so much.

[@Chiefs_Adventures]

Great comments on pros/cons! I am considering moving from the Gladiator to the ZR2 Silverado...but not sure yet because of the size.

[@rebeloutdoors1621]

Thank you! Both are great vehicles

[@vegasx69]

Maintenance parts like air filters, oil filters, fuel filters, and amount of oil needed for oil changes is also many many more times expensive for diesel trucks than midsized gas trucks and that's something you have to pay every few months or so.

[@rebeloutdoors1621]

Also true

[@goldenopticsoutdoors]

Great video f250 6.2 build going ! Didn’t see this until afterwards and I’d agree with the vid !

[@rebeloutdoors1621]

Thank you!

[@DesertRox]

The size is a pro and a con, glad you mentioned it

[@rebeloutdoors1621]

Very much so

[@Sean2002FU]

I run a surplus military hmmwv, with an off road camper built on a m1102 trailer. I left ( repainted) the flat desert tan. Cause like you said, sometimes you have to jam it down a trail!! the paint is incredibly easy to touch up! Biggest reason i run the humvee, is cost savings. I finished my truck for 25,000 . Thats cheap! especially with rod hall off road racing shocks! (They came with it).

[@rebeloutdoors1621]

That’s awesome

[@screamingchicken83]

Coming from Jeeps I can agree with you on size being a negative on some trails. Especially some of the older National Forest trails in our area.

[@rebeloutdoors1621]

That’s my biggest con especially in Michigan lol

[@screamingchicken83]

@Rebel Outdoors yeah there are plenty of Jeep sized trails in the Manistee National Forest but finding anything for our size trucks can be tricky. More than a few times I've had to back my RAM out of a trail because I hit a spot to small to pass.

[@rebeloutdoors1621]

@@screamingchicken83 I agree, done that a time or two lol

[@captainasce9343]

I have a 08 gmc sierra 2500 that I want to use for overlanding. And this was a huge help! Thank you! Im still learning, but im not giving up.

[@rebeloutdoors1621]

Happy to help, that will be awesome

[@captainasce9343]

@@rebeloutdoors1621 any suggestions on lift kits ? Or should I just stay stocked for now? If you don’t mind me asking

[@rebeloutdoors1621]

@@captainasce9343 I'm not sure about your rig, just depends how much wheeling you'll need it for your area

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

Now that I've seen this thing in person, yes, I want it, :D.

[@rebeloutdoors1621]

😆

[@usmarine113]

Jus got a zr2 2500hd with the deisel. Overlandin is the plan with it

[@Nitromudder]

Just starting to build up my 3500 Siverado. Agree with it all.

[@denisestarr2314]

Show more of your truck .

[@RyanMarcyesOutdoors]

I have a 2014F-150 STX super cab project that I am about to start.🤘🏽

[@jamescox6133]

I just started one too. super crew with 6.5 foot bed!

[@Kenwood709]

I got a 97 2500 with a 12 valve for cheap. Thinking of piecing it into something that can go deep into the desert. My biggest concern is getting stuck in sand.

[@Zoofactory]

Shout out to the UP!❤

[@gorillahd9247]

Good video and a solid overview of the pros/cons.

[@rebeloutdoors1621]

Thank you!

[@purebloodedpatriot9352]

Great video brother. Did you have a full Carli set up. I see that you have the sway bar. I have a full Carli but haven’t had it at full flex yet. Wondering if you’ve taken the sway bar to full flex yet.

[@rebeloutdoors1621]

Thank you! Yes I have, in my Overland the Red video on spas creek I was at full flex

[@Sdukes001]

How are you getting 17 with emissions, lift, tires, camper, gear ect?

[@richardcaudillo1108]

Very well said.

[@adventure.anywhere]

You talk about being able to throw everything you think you might need but know you won’t in the back of the truck like it’s a bad thing. 😂

[@denisestarr2314]

I had a two door jeep , after a 2000 mile trip. Camping along the way . Just not enough room . So im building a 4x4 truck .

[@rebeloutdoors1621]

That would be a fun trip

[@Toglander]

I just left a 4 door Rubicon myself and I would say the biggest issues for me were the road noise and ride comfort. Long road trips were miserable and caused me to explore far less often then I would have liked. My new rig is a 2500 and I am loving how quiet and comfortable it is. It’s a complete game changer for long road trips.

[@joncothranphotography9375]

I can't see using anything less than a full size truck. I currently run a 2017 GMC, but after having rebuilt the transmission twice, I plan on getting rid of it pretty soon. I want a 2nd Gen Tundra.

[@rebeloutdoors1621]

I switched to a gladiator and I will say, not having squeeze through trails is nice

[@scarthumb7835]

So glad i found your channel! I've been debating on a jeep gladiator and a ram 2500, diesel for both. Have you run into any trails that were just too small for your 2500? I started off certain i wanted the gladiator but after a couple videos of moose im really considering a ram. I can get into nicer used ram for the same price as a base gladiator too.

[@rebeloutdoors1621]

Oh yes, I’ve found myself on some extremely tight spots

[@codyparker679]

My f350 often dosent fit but it's massive where my friends in toyotas and s10s have all the room no issues.

[@rebeloutdoors1621]

For sure@@codyparker679

[@richieandcrew]

LOL f250 diesel, 16 mpg empty and 16mpg loaded...

[@Misiekgren]

How do you manage the DPF situation while going on longer trips off the beaten path? I was going to ask about mileage but you already covered that. Thanks. Have you considered a tune for better mileage etc? Sweet rig, practically my dream.

[@rebeloutdoors1621]

Thank you! Keep one of those 2.5gal things on board and fill up if I get to low knowing I’ll be off grid for awhile

[@Sdukes001]

Easy get rid of it

[@TradesmanOutdoorAdventures]

Surprised you didn’t mention the extra cost of diesel…yeah, I miss the torque in my 6.4 2500, but at $1.50/gallon extra (plus DEF), driving a modern diesel doesn’t end up being a whole lot cheaper than a full-size or an HD truck.

[@rebeloutdoors1621]

That’s a good point also!

[@Nitromudder]

When I fueled up yesterday they were only 50 cents apart. Slowly getting closer, sure was bad the last few years. Most of these smaller turbo engines require premium which is currently about the same price. Lets see what next month brings, lol

[@jensenmw7]

I have a 6.6L Duramax (2500). My wife bought a 3.0L Duramax in the Silverado 1500 for her business. She tows a small (4k lbs) trailer. I really like the 3.0L Duramax. Seems like a great compromise. All the torque and plenty of HP. Fuel tanks size is 22 gal compared to 36 gal on my LTZ, but you can cure that with an auxiliary tank. Her gas mileage is much better than mine. I'm intrigued by these midsize trucks with diesels. I'm disappointed that Chevy stopped putting them in the Colorado.

[@unknown_truckers]

I think people who build overland rigs vs state to state tow rigs should consider 12 n previous year rams, easy to delete the egr n no def. My 2012 as far as versatility n cost has had a cheaper starting point vs the newer trucks n even new jeeps I've seen

[@jimpowell4945]

What % of the smaller vehicles are GVWR legal?

[@rebeloutdoors1621]

That’s a good question

[@redbeastadventures]

Probably 10%

[@jacksontodd79]

Man have a power wagon slowly making an overlanding toy in from ohio love to meet up an go out with someone with more overlanding knowledge

[@rebeloutdoors1621]

For sure

[@ShaneEstabrooks]

I have Ram 2500 too.. how many mirrors have you been through? 😂

[@rebeloutdoors1621]

Just the one set, waiting to break them so I can get rid of the last chrome part of the truck lol

[@ShaneEstabrooks]

Need to buy a 3rd set but these ones are banged up, still functional.. lots of bush where I live in Canada

[@jasonscoggins01]

Ty

[@512freeagent]

Pronounces Silverado correctly first go round. Brain immediately recognizes it was pronounced correctly and immediately corrects itself and repeats the word totally wrong SILVERAYDOE 😂

[@Blando7887]

Ideally, if you’re wealthy enough, A Raptor would be ideal. Especially the V6 Ecoboost. Youll be getting good fuel economy and simultaneously be able to spank everyone in a drag race

[@wvwillis]

Yep.

[@Kalle_Outdoor]

yeah the size could be an issue. specialy in europe. butt yeah, i m like the king of the road and love it xD

[@Doodleworldomega]

Lol😂more cons than pros on full size & hefty trucks!! 😂 starting with the gas mileage issue & ending with it’ll get stuck cause it’s heavy & you can’t get a good winch that’ll help you pull out without your wire snapping cause of weight of the truck!!

[@WhiskeyFool]

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