5 Heavy Metal Fan Attitudes That NEED TO STOP

[@skylancer-zer0205]

#6. People who believe all modern metal with clean vocals is automatically labeled hard rock -.-

[@ilovecatsandanimalsmybuddy8216]

Eric Stearns I hate when people say oh that has clean vocals so it can be metal

[@Daniel.Miranda]

Eric Stearns mastodon is till metal!

[@goldeneagle987]

Eric Stearns Yes Metallica is totally hard rock...

[@Chaosophoenix]

Heavy metal started with clean vocals

[@sirspookybones1118]

@@goldeneagle987 well they have a few Hard Rock songs from Black album, Load and reload (for the record, I like those albums quite a lot) but I can't really call anything from Death magnetic or hardwired hard rock aside maybe Unforgiven 3

[@Gregbaltzer]

Metal fans tell you you're a poser if you don't listen to the most underground bands they listen to, but when others start listening to them they stop listening to them because now too many people are listening to them.

[@aestechtic7608]

They are mad af

[@lipipragyadevi]

@@acpfullsends5190 exactly, they spam on megadeth songs

[@DrLuke49]

LMFAO like how are bands supposed to share their music and their messages unless they DON'T gain new fans?

[@pierceryker7754]

i know Im randomly asking but does any of you know of a trick to log back into an Instagram account?? I stupidly lost the password. I appreciate any tricks you can give me

[@dallasparker4604]

@Pierce Ryker instablaster =)

[@SheriffAssholio]

As much as I love metal, I can't stand some metalheads nowadays (especially the elitists)

[@vOddy75]

+Kieran McAnerney If it ain't Burzum, it's bollocks

[@RobWSS1]

worst case of metal elitists you will find: In Flames 'fans' who reject everything post Clayman.

[@vOddy75]

robert lane What's wrong with listening to what one likes, and rejecting what one doesn't?

[@RobWSS1]

+vOddy75 thats not the problem - it's thehow confrontational they are and the lengths they go to to tell everyone how superior the old albums are. In Flames' Facebook page always gets those comments.

[@billieklein1677]

@@vOddy75 What's wrong with continously arguing?

[@morrisbristow1250]

Here's another one for the list: "Their first album, or first two albums, are the best; the rest suck." Artists are allowed to grow, change, and develop their sound. Some choose not to, some do. Either can be a really good thing! Some bands get better with age. Some bands find their niche sound and put out umpteen albums that sounds exactly the same. If you didn't write the music, don't write off a band just because they grew up.

[@RobWSS1]

I agree with ya dude, perfect example of this is In Flames

[@huitzilopochtli6414]

Metallica is big with this one. I actually like St. Anger and Their latest album.

[@nope5657]

I was talking with a massive metal fan one day at college. He heard my Kreator through my headphones and stopped to talk to me. He asked my top 5 Kreator albums. I listed Endorama. He looked like I just farted on his face.

[@donaldmack2307]

Morris Bristow I think -sometimes- with some bands the first couple albums are better because they dont have any $. Havent “made it” yet and are still hungry.

[@sirspookybones1118]

Metallica and Iron Maiden are the ones I hear about the most but I find a lot of people actually enjoy albums like Matter of life and death, Dance of death, Book of souls, Load, Reload, Death magnetic and Hardwired. But the elitists are stuck in the 80's

[@rebelatheart15]

Funny thing is, I actually discovered Metal by going outside of my comfort zone. I used to only listen to blues-rock and country. Stuff like Lynyrd Skynyrd and ZZ Top. Then I tried listening to heavier and heavier stuff, going from ZZ Top and then a little heavier to Dio, Iron Maiden, Metallica, Slayer and now I even like Cannibal Corpse. I listen to classic metal bands like Iron Maiden, Less known older bands like Alcatrazz and Asia, But I also like more modern bands like Powerwolf, Green Day, Tool and Halestorm. That's right, I like Pantera, Blink-182, Carl Perkins, Elmore James, Robert Johnson, Eric Clapton, Dio, Amon Amarth, Ted Nugent, Darkthrone, The Who, Hank Williams, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Green Day, Tool, ZZ Top, Metallica, Rush, Cannibal Corpse, Black Raven, Assjack, The Doors... Oh, and if you hate me for liking both Pantera and Green Day at the same time, fuck off. Sue me. Do your worst.

[@DbladeMedic]

Hahahah i thought you said sue off fuck me

[@PriyankaDas-fe6hm]

No offence intended but I like their Basketball days.

[@BarekHalfhand]

I like all of those mentioned but for some reason I loath blink 182

[@QueenLiAnn]

"I have a poster of Arianna Grande, you have a problem with that - fuck off!"

[@jesvs666.]

QueenLiAnn i have a poster of a pony

[@mioakiyama4919]

@@jesvs666. thats cool :)

[@SleepFan771]

I've been a metalhead since my early teens and now I'm also very much a hiphophead as well. I wish that metalheads would not write off all other genres as worthless. You can, in fact, like and listen to multiple genres.

[@SleepFan771]

+Ocean Sage 8:23 Yes! This is basically me! CKN, we are one!

[@andyowen7636]

Absolutely correct

[@Thedarkerhalf1]

+Ocean Sage That's what I do. I can't stand listening to just one type of music, I need variety...

[@zach9680]

I'm with you I listen to thrash metal and death metal, I also listen to goth music like Sisters Of Mercy.

[@Thedarkerhalf1]

I used to be a nothing be nu-metal lovin' teenage shit but 2 years later I was obsessed with industrial, then when I moved out of home I was living with 2 punks and they introduced me to 80's punk and now I give heaps of stuff a chance. Thanks to Babymetal I've been going through the japanese music scene. The place has different interesting stuff...

[@dexenationgracey1979]

Bands like Living Colour, Faith No More, Mr. Bungle and RHCP got me into a multitude of styles. It seems that a good portion of metalheads don't accept or at least appreciate other bands and genres. Yes, it's okay to listen to A Tribe Called Quest, Public Enemy and The Pharcyde while having Pantera, Death and Testament t-shirts. Listen to Michael and Janet Jackson while reading up on Rush or Queensryche. Jam out to Janelle Monae while sorting through all your Guitar World magazines. We have to get ourselves in order.

[@catrichbillay1506]

Speak

[@dudes11bravodadschannel85]

whoa hold on a minute! Who the fuck doesn't consider queensryce a metal band?

[@elspookso8414]

Exactamundo! Nice taste in hip-hop, by the way.

[@julianhouston.bondservanto1191]

Faith No More and RHCP are cool,

[@kylebryan4295]

[@wkr64691]

100% agree on nu metal. I do not like the genre anymore but it is what got me started on metal in general.

[@metalheadfreakingfantastic4578]

wkr64691 Same here the first band I ever listen to when I was getting into metal was disturbed but I still listen to new metal sometimes if I’m bored

[@trippinatormachine]

Metalhead freaking Fantastic same linkin park (hybrid theory and meteora) got me into metal and from there I started listening to disturbed, slipknot, korn, limp bizkit, and eventually I expanded into metallica, pantera, iron maiden and now I listen to just about every metal genre and once in a while I’ll go back and listen to nu/alternative metal

[@thegoatgotmilked373]

The attitude that need to stop: Metal fans who think that Metal is the only good kind of music. I am a metal fan myself, but I also like other kind of music. Hell, I even found some nice Hip hop tunes I actually liked (I was suprised too) Or when people hate it when metal bands have shown their softer side. Like when Slipknot released Snuff or Circle. Or when KoRn released Never Never. Music is more than just metal. It is a bit of everything.

[@toasterrobot8566]

metal is the only good music, hip pop? *vomits, oh my god no acoustics ffs

[@wabbajackwabbajack6932]

grandpa's guitars :P

[@evacody1249]

I will listen to old school rap and hip hop. But today what it's all about calling women bitches, hoes, sluts, etc. I refuse to by the crap.

[@thegoatgotmilked373]

Delain124 I know. Today's hip hop is fucked up. All the music is about the same thing. The woman are always about how "pretty" they are and the men are all about how many woman they fucked and how much money they have. And there is a lot of autotune on that marked.

[@evacody1249]

Ruben Lodewijk So yeah I don't like when people say how can I only like just metal and hardrock music. I don't know because I can find more bands that don't put women down. Because there are a great number of genres to pick from. Because no matter what CKN says metal fans are the most welcoming people around we just don't like when people tell us that we can't dislike anything.

[@andyowen7636]

Musicians tend not to listen to music from their own Genre..I know because I'm a musician, inspiration and originality is mostly drawn from new experience and enjoying a journey outside of your comfort zone, technically and artistically...so all of the 'elitists' may well be horrified by the 'playlists' of their heroes Lol...fact.

[@SecureImmaturT]

+andy owen Awesome point. I just read Scott Ian's book and he admitted he was a closet disco fan. And he embraced rap so much, something other metal guys are hesitant to do.

[@tristanpowell6139]

As much as I like classic metal bands like Black Sabbath and Motörhead, I also enjoy modern bands like Avenged Sevenfold, Slipknot, Five Finger Death Punch, Linkin Park etc.

[@wyattloftus7921]

Well, you should do more exploring. Pretty much anyone who listens to metal knows of all those bands. They're pretty mainstream as far as modern hard rock and metal go. Dive into the plethora of lesser known bands and you're guaranteed to find more stuff you like.

[@tristanpowell6139]

I support local bands too.

[@wyattloftus7921]

Okay? You named some of the most well-known rock/metal bands. You do know there's literally thousands of rock and metal bands that are big enough to not be considered "local bands" right? You're giving off the impression that you hardly know any music beyond stuff like Sabbath and Slipknot lol. Whether that's true or not, you should take suggestions from Coverkillernation. Make a list on your phone of every band that CKN talks about and look them up and give em a shot. I've discovered many great bands this way. There were many also that I didn't like, but it's still worth doing just to find some great stuff for whatever your taste is like.

[@AngelaShiflet]

Same here 👍

[@Hellenicheavymetal]

Rivers of Nihil, Mgla, Insomnium, good modern metal

[@marko111ism]

I believe that i can find at least one artist in literally every genre of music

[@SleepFan771]

+Marko Galic That's a fantastic approach to music and life really. Try every genre and be open to new and alternatives ideas. Good on you, man.

[@nicksikoryak1467]

I listen to everything with an open mind regardless of genre. I used to be close minded and only into metal but as great as metal is every genre has things to offer. I just love music in general.

[@lipipragyadevi]

Yes you can find good artists in any fucking genre. Atleast I select like that

[@natelandherr5202]

I really do think the past of Metal was better but there is SO much good metal today

[@coverkillernation]

+Nate Landherr our past should always be pavement toward the future. Out respect, admiration and love for those before us turn us into well rounded metal fans! Thanks for the comment!

[@natelandherr5202]

Exactly!!! I completely agree. I'm 17 and I listen to Metallica, Iron Maiden, Death, Sabbath, Ozzy, Judas Priest, Dio, so much more. I also listen to FFDP, Avenged Sevenfold, and even Black Veil Brides (I'm sorry XD)

[@zerocool6583]

doesn't #4 ever remind you of the bullshit of Metallica Vs. Megadeth debate? LOL.

[@natelandherr5202]

Yes!!!!

[@n3Cr0ManCeD]

Yup. 49 year old metalhead and been listening for 41 years. Love Baby Metal. Johnny Cash. Hank Williams Jr. Die Antwoord. Beethoven. Slayer. Metallica. Overkill. Exodus. Slipknot. Death. N.W.A. Eminem. Jay-Z. Bach. Rachmaninoff. Wagner. Mozart. Sevendust. Iced Earth. Warbringer. Evile. Bonded by Blood. Testament. Cindy Lauper. Waylon Jennings. Ozzy. Sabbath. (Dio AND Ozzy) Body Count. Ice-T. Ice Cube. Venom. Gorgoroth. Mayhem. Immortal. There is no bad music. Just stuff you like and stuff you don't. Genre bashing is for insecure asshats. Grow up and love the music. PS..... #7 The Megadeth vs. Metallica debate. Fucking let it go FFS........... PPS.... I've been watching awhile but this video hit the nail on the head and voiced feelings I've had for years. Well played. Subscribed.

[@jesuschrist5674]

All of these really go back to being an elitist. Many, MANY metalheads are elitists and refuse to listen to anything but metal because it's 'subpar.' Metal has the most elitists out of every genre and I don't think that's going to change anytime soon.

[@ragemaniac22]

same thing with some Jazz musicians they are elitists too and bash on others. Not all but the majority are.

[@madmaxx4178]

Classical elitist n blues police are the worst

[@Hellenicheavymetal]

jazz, classical and metal are the superior genres. Overall more complex and just overall better skilled.

[@spawner2865]

@@ragemaniac22 So, this does not happen just in metal then? Im surprised that Jass music has this same problem.

[@dropkickpennyday9576]

Dude this video is just a HUGE amen for me! I totally agree with just about everything you had to say on this! Personally I love metalcore and deathcore, lately some alternative/indie/experimental rock, as well as rock in general, punk, rap, some Pop, a few electronic genres and so on, while at the same time I love death metal, grindcore, black metal, doom metal, heavy metal and even some (non big four) thrash metal lately, and I love checking out new bands and parts of albums almost every day, mostly in different metal genres but different music genres in general

[@realSrvBhtngr]

Dropkickpennyday95 you're basically into mainstream music Stop calling yourself a metalhead

[@aestechtic7608]

U r right

[@SecureImmaturT]

Becoming a fan of Babymetal really changed my attitude. I used to be a pseudo-elitist. I definitely was someone who viewed time periods (past vs. present) a little too harshly (I used to defer to the past). I also was probably a 95% metal listener and 5% everything else. I was open but I felt I had to fit a certain mold. I would be a closet fan of things, almost afraid, even to myself, to admit I liked/loved it (like, my love of all things Morrissey). Babymetal kind of made me sit back and go: wow, this is really impressive and it is such a mixture of not just metal history but of other cultural ideas of music as well. It made me re-examine my attitude and it made me dig deeper into other band's resumes and try out other genres. I'll always be a metal-heavy listener but I think its always a good idea to be open and DEFINITELY not be ashamed of anything you like.

[@debonaire_nerd]

Something that needs to stop - Heavy Metal Elitism: I find that a lot of heavy metal fans spend just as much time saying what heavy metal is not as they do discussing their favourite metal acts. I fail to see why any particular instrument, lyrical theme, vocal style or image should be excluded from heavy metal because there is a role for artistic diversity within the genre. Frankly, it's at its most interesting when it takes those risks.

[@thearchivist7824]

1000% correct, but I do have to say that people living in the past seems to be the biggest problem overall.

[@SleepFan771]

+The Abyssal Archivist Seriously, man. The "Le Wrong Generation" kids and adults are the worst. There has always been mediocre music and dope music. Now, if you explore there is tons of incredible music across all genres. If you want to sit and listen to what the radio shoves down your throat, of course music will seem dead. But there is plenty to love and support now. Now, more than ever, do I feel grateful to be alive to experience all the cool new music out there.

[@thearchivist7824]

The funniest thing is when people say metal is populated by "crap" today like Five Finger Death Punch, Emmure, Asking Alexandria, etc. when those are the very uppermost layer of bands, equivalent today (at least when it comes to how many people in the metal fanbase know of them) of Iron Maiden or Metallica or Motley Crue in the Eighties. In the case of the latter, it's a gross misrepresentation of metalcore that has turned so many away from a subgenre that has as much potential as the next.

[@catrichbillay1506]

I've always appreciated Nu Metal.

[@Bmokage]

Stephen Sturgis Nu-metal is my personal favorite genre of metal, but I like most other types as well. It's nice to see another metal fan who appreciates the Nu-metal movement/scene.

[@angelicmccormick8473]

same it's what got me into metal

[@cartercrawford9000]

Me too bro. Idgaf what people say about Nu Metal I fuckin love Slipknot and Korn, early Mudvayne, Limp Bizkit etc

[@ravenfuckantifa2000]

Carter Crawford Hell yea, Mudvayne and Slipknot.

[@CrackBeaver]

Nu Metal, Grunge, Rap Rock,Thrash Metal and Punk from the 60s-70s is the only music I like

[@mjnation7876]

5 reasons why people hate Anthrax

[@renesarac3252]

YEAAAA

[@mjnation7876]

+rene sarac YeAaAa

[@mjnation7876]

+jack Schremmer Hopefully he will do it soon. If he can do slayer, Metallica, and Megadeth, then it would make sense to do a 5 reasons about anthrax

[@lordslayer6010]

most of the 90s

[@mjnation7876]

+lord slayer The god awful Volume 8 and the piss poor Stomp 442

[@Andrey-ys8rp]

Serious question for you, CKN. Have you met any of these 5 type of guys you just explained? Or do they only exist in internet? I for one never actually met these kind of guys in real life. On internet? Sure, they're pretty much everywhere. But when I go to festivals, all I met is pretty much chill dudes who just wants to headbang & mosh.

[@coverkillernation]

+DraygonVenus met em. Even had a few buds that had one or two of these traits. We got along fine but argued a bit about this concept. But mutual respect reigned the day. That's tolerable. In the digital world, such respect is not so commonplace.

[@Jep_productions]

the internet is a lot like driving in traffic. lots of anonymous assholes exist that are possibly alright people in real life.

[@Thedarkerhalf1]

+DraygonVenus As far as I see it, it's mainly on the internet. For some reason the comments section on metal websites and basically just any site with a comments section just bring out the worst in almost everybody... Ever seen that Futurama episode where Leela & Fry go into the internet and they go past a Star Trek chatroom where you see 2 trekkies yelling at each other over who's the better Enterprise captain? That pretty much sums it all up. It's funny but sad at the same time...

[@gaugehoughton2403]

Tiger Blood 1978 I definitely agree

[@Ravenz91]

I'm so glad that this has been done.... If I didn't have such a scatterbrain, I'd totally have done this sorta thing a while back. Freakin' A man. You rock dude.

[@willdog102]

+Matt Trujillo Oh hey Matt. :D

[@Ravenz91]

+Will-metal Gonda hi Will

[@TheWolfgangGrimmer]

The thing about glam, Nu-Metal and hard rock not being considered metal... it's not an issue with a type of imagery or a state of mind, it's about the music itself. Unlike what we find in extreme metal and its successors, the music composed by those bands is not at all based on the songwriting codes found in classic heavy metal (think NWOBHM bands and the like). People who aren't used to this kind of music hear mostly distortion and aggression in both cases, so they don't notice a difference. But if you compare the riffs and song structures found in those respective styles, the differences are huge and easy to spot. But I think what confuses a lot of people over this issue, even within the orthodox metal fandom, is that it is almost always framed primarily as a judgment on quality, when that has nothing to do with the point. As an example, Nine Inch Nails is one of my favourite musical projects ever, and I honestly think Trent's work can be way more creative and even more unsettling than most "immersive" metal bands. Yes, his music is based firmly in rock, and can be very, very dark and abrasive... but that doesn't make it anything close to metal from a categorization standpoint, because that just isn't how it works. On a different note, having open-minded tastes is of course a good thing, but you shouldn't have an open-minded approach to your music choices simply for the sake of having one. You should want to explore music that speaks directly to you and your own sensibilities. In my case, besides "true" metal, I enjoy some conscious rap (as long as the subject matter isn't too ordinary or the music too mellow), some electronic music (mostly on the aggressive side, but sometimes ambient as well), and even "world music" as they call it (meaning traditional folk). I have zero attraction for things like Jazz or pop unless the lyrics stand out in a very positive way for me, like some Weird Al songs do.

[@TheZman1978]

weird al? odd and random.

[@TheWolfgangGrimmer]

TheZman1978 I'm not talking about his more famous parodies (from this reaction, I'm assuming that's most of what you know).

[@jensablefur155]

I think many metalheads consider me a "poser". I suppose it's a fair assumption. Almost all of my favourite music does fall outside the metal umbrella, and because I do look a bit like a stereotypical trendy-preppy bitch people jump to a conclusion. But then when I talk about my enjoyment of bands such as Summoning, Nagelfar, Windir, Emperor, Lunar Aurora, etc it pulls the rug out of people's expectations and bowls them over. But in my mind it shouldn't. Metalheads, I find, are eager to judge on appearance and their early perception of people, and the negative labels that *they* feel the need to bestow upon *others*. We don't all march to the same drum beat. Not in music, not in Art. Variety is the spice of life, and in my opinion it's absolutely nuts that there are people out there pontificating on metal's superiority who would look down their noses at the works of bands such as King Crimson, Camel and Van Der Graaf Generator. But each to their own.

[@kristianhvaal5762]

Couldn't agree more! I've always hated elitist behavior in metal. I've been a metalhead for 20 years but some of my favorite bands are non metal bands....I love the Crash Test Dummies, Oasis and Zac Brown Band....so what! Metal still makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. To quote the late, great Lemmy.."There's two types of music in the world. Music you like and music you don't like."

[@portlandjailblazers]

Nu metal in a huge way revitalized heavy music!

[@MEyck97]

+Incognito Bunnus Ever heard of Gothenburg melodic death metal???

[@portlandjailblazers]

+If You're A False Don't Entry Nu metal bands like Korn have sold 30 million records. Today's metal bands don't break 100 thousand.

[@portlandjailblazers]

+MEyck97 Yeah I have heard of almost every type of metal.

[@MEyck97]

Incognito Bunnus Quantity does not define quality!

[@portlandjailblazers]

+If You're A False Don't Entry There's not a band better than Slipknot right now and they are mainstream.

[@bernieburnalot4261]

I am a multi-instrumentalist and producer, and I write my own stuff. I listen to ALL forms of music. I believe truly it is the only way to create something new.

[@seanerschen1180]

I also love something from all genres of music, metal just happens to be my favorite, I also love something from all subgenres of metal.

[@springytrap4979]

Thank goodness this is on KZbin! I could not agree more, I'm learning about nu metal bands thanks to a friend of mine at school. I'm glad I didn't turn into an ignorant person who judged people by what they listen to. I have friends who like Miranda Lambert, Taylor Swift and Panic! At The Disco but I don't bash them for their preferences in music.

[@bernieburnalot4261]

Excellent points. I discovered Black Sabbath really late in life, and when I did, it seemed like all of my favourite bands had defined their entire sound on 1 single Black Sabbath riff. I also discovered Slayer really late in life, and now my head is blown at how far ahead of the rest they were in terms of content and production quality. Metal is not about “separating”, not about dividing the nation, it should be a family of diehards.

[@andymanportillo]

Bitch I love Slipknot, and Marvin Gaye

[@devinmccreery8003]

Me, too. I also like Disturbed, Stevie Wonder, A7x,The temptations, Evanescence, Earth, wind, & fire, The black Dahlia murder, & the four tops!!!

[@andymanportillo]

+Devin McCreery props to you man

[@davimelo112]

The BOB PART makes me laughed so hard. = )))

[@spudacus3780]

I agree with this video whole heartedly, while I love being a metalhead I have to admit that most of the heavy metal fanbase is pretty terrible and that all of these behaviors need to stop.

[@thomaskittock2866]

C'mon man, don't pick on me for pointing out your mispronunciation of "Jomsviking" by Amon Amarth...

[@coverkillernation]

+Thomas Kittock was that you? Lol not who I'm calling out subtly, tbh.

[@thomaskittock2866]

coverkillernation Haha yeah, I did pick on the pronunciation a little bit, I don't try to be too nit picky but sometimes... *screams that he is not an elitist* Keep putting out the great content! Love the lists lately, I'm appreciating your takes and opinions.

[@coverkillernation]

+Thomas Kittock love having you come in and keep me straight, mate! its a pleasure. I've been having a ton of fun with this lately, and that's refreshing.

[@DarthXenu]

+Thomas Kittock He does seem pretty butthurt in the video.

[@gildorodrigues3900]

+coverkillernation is it wrong if I call you a poser based on the fact that maybe you were never in a band and you are just frustrated ? yeah it might be wrong... you need to smoke a joint and relax, or if that's not your cup of tea, go walk it off.... Man Up and move on... you are not going to change anything if you don't set an example through Music itself, Spread your message of Hate or Pain with some Metal. Come on already, pick up an instrument and show us what you are made of, or write some lyrics and scream your guts out like a Man. You sound like a little bitch yapping way and complaining, you should complain about the real issues with the bands that sell out or with the fucking Music Business that monopolizes everything and values shitty material that has a chorus and one or two verses and it's all synth crap, made with computers, it's not instruments played by real people... talk about the FIVE TOPICS THAT ARE WRONG WITH THE MUSIC INDUSTRY OR.... just go for it and show us how much metal you really are, because you sound like a faint fart, you talk about metal... I am more metal than you, I am out there playing and screaming on the underground layer and I have played shows where the only ones whatching where other band members and their girlfriends.... you don't know jack shit about what you are saying.....

[@thecreativemillenial]

This "my metal's better than your metal" does my head in. As metalheads, we should helping the scene grow and how can we do that when we make so many metal fans feel unwelcome

[@nick1512]

I love all types of metal. I also love grunge just rock out and don’t be an ass everyone has different tastes

[@aliyahthebunny2482]

"I have a poster of Ariana Grande" LOL

[@jordyvelthuizen5766]

whats that playing in the background wow blew my mind im kinda new to metal genre i started listening to it since 2012 i started out with metallica now i listen more bands five finger death punch avenged sevenfold trivium slipknot disturbed alter bridge pantera and 1 track from wage war and 1 track from meshuggah called bleed so whats that solo from 6:12 in the background

[@thescytheowner526]

I do have to say that Metal went through a ridiculously terrible emo phase at some point but snapped out of it pretty quickly (thank god)

[@kurtcostigan6625]

I consider myself a 'music' fan. From Mozart, Robert Johnson and Lesley Gore through to Freddie Gibbs, Fleshgod Apocalypse and The Black Keys. You name it, I've at least tried it.

[@comradefreedom8275]

I'm curious about what you think of these genres: Classical/baroque/romantic neoclassical ambient/dark ambient post-rock Gothic rock dream pop ethereal wave Trip Hop anything that gets played at Gothic clubs from Gothic Rock, to industrial, to EDM. I'm curious.

[@johnprentice1474]

I like "old Metallica" AND "new Metallica". There, I got it off my chest.

[@EyeShotFirst]

The metal community is one of the reasons I distanced myself from the genre. It's almost like there's no room for experimentation allowed. Everything has to be face melting at all times, or your music is considered soft or too commercial. I still love metal, and get along with my old metalhead friends, but I don't consider myself a metalhead, because of the huge percent that don't allow their brethren to listen to something that isn't their favorite band.

[@hmpz36911]

While exclusion is part of metal, so is exploration of other genres. In other words, Buddy Guy, Beethoven, Pink Floyd - fine. Korn, Limp Bizkit, Papa Roach - the poseur detector starts beeping. That, for the most part sums up the attitudes of most actual metalheads.

[@EyeShotFirst]

I like Korn. Not because I like being part of a community that likes Korn.

[@Goldendroid]

I guiltily listen to Hair metal, and you know what. I fucking love it. It's feel-good music that just is simple and fun to listen to.

[@evillives7779]

Hey CKN, I was just curious but what is your standing on Megadeth's Rust in Peace now in 2016. I know a few years ago you felt that it was one of, if not the greatest album in all of metal. Do you still feel the same about it? Does it still hold up for you now in 2016 with all of these great new metal albums we've been getting recently?

[@Mephiston]

The way i see it is.. if you eat the same single food over and over you're going to be incredibly unhealthy and unfulfilled in your life. Variety is not only the spice of life, but it is the key to healthy living. Music is NO DIFFERENT. If you really love one style of music then fuck yeah go for it man, but you should NEVER discount all other kinds of music, because more often than not, your favourite bands are influenced by bands you think are shit.

[@Player-jx9pd]

One thing I can’t stand is when you go onto a Megadeth video and it’s flooded with toxic fanboys talking shit about Metallica. They put more energy hating a band that they dislike, rather than enjoying the music from the band they love. It’s toxic as hell, makes me feel embarrassed to be a Megadeth fan at times. Be happy we got two great bands instead of just one.

[@portlandjailblazers]

I like metal with good choruses and song structure. Highs and lows with a some growling or not

[@adecentdelinquent8986]

And good meaningful lyrics that we can relate to

[@dawnoftheapocalypse8995]

Besides Heavy metal, I listen to Jackyl, Soundgarden, the Nigel Dupree band, Stone Temple Pilots, The Doors, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Luke Bryan, Jason Aldean, Johnny Cash, All three of the Hank Williams men, David Allen Coe, some ICP tunes, one song from Twiztid, Adam Sandler, Alan Jackson, Toby Keith, The Ramones, The Misfits - with AND without Danzig, Offspring, Stevie Ray Vaughn, The Beatles, Anti-Flag, Dead Kennedys, Iggy Pop, Lizzy Borden, Nine Inch Nails.

[@derek92ful]

hardcore dancing should stop its not 2005 anymore.

[@leonaluna3307]

Derek Norris it's stupid. I stopped going to punk shows because of that

[@Highrollinhunter]

Yeah so many people almost got killed with hardcore dancing.

[@Geewunner4life]

people are entitled to their opinions and actions. I've been a loyal fan of Metal since I was 15. Metal is my religion. I defend it. If there's something that I hate I'll say I hate it. Nothing you or ANYONE on this planet can do to change the way I am.

[@Lightning-gg5iu]

I don't know, I like metal myself, but I always just see it as just a music genre

[@aliyahthebunny2482]

I was listening to master of puppets some time ago, and my sister called it fake. Her wall is covered in one direction posters.

[@jodystewart9028]

Preach, brother. As a fellow old man, I can say that this guy gets it.

[@randys5568]

So, question. What if i like older and newer bands (by the way I'm 21) but I still think older music if better?

[@NoMastersNoMistress]

Musical Tribalism needs to stop, period.

[@tusharkiranmoodgal4334]

I agree with you a 100%. Music is relative, to each its own and to fight over it is pretty stupid in my opinion. I am an old school metalhead but don't mind checking out some of the new stuff every now and then. It can be quite refreshing. And love your videos mate, you are great at what you do. Much respect\m/

[@jasonshelton9786]

Great video. Agree 100%. I've never subscribed to the "my 5 bands that sound the same are more metal than your 5 bands that sound the same" way of thinking. And like you said, anyone who limits themself to one "subgenre"(hate that word) or only older/newer music is missing out on a ton of great music. I like everything from Elvis to Cannibal Corpse to Hank 3 to Mastodon, and recently even BabyMetal(lord help me). I think we owe it to ourselves to try to hear as much good music as possible. It's ok to not like certain bands, but it's stupid to hate someone for liking something that you don't.

[@randumo24]

+Jason Shelton No reason to feel any shame about listening to Babymetal. Just feel bad for those who miss out on their amazing music.

[@jasonshelton9786]

+randumo24 no shame at all. I am absolutely HOOKED on the new album, been stuck in my head for days, and find myself singing along despite not knowing any Japanese.

[@randumo24]

Jason Shelton I'm doing the same lol.

[@chadbeam15]

Well said dude ! Please accept my nomination for metal president.

[@M5TT82]

As much as I love My Deathcore and Heavy Metal bands. I will Always have a Soft spot for Paramore :)

[@MurmeliJones]

these negative aspects are the reason why i dont wanna be associated with metalheads even though metal is my favorite genre

[@davydevilution7297]

I listen to all styles and genre of Music. Variety is the Spice of Life!

[@nickwaters1701]

To be honest, I love progressive rock, progressive metal, old school rap, chillstep, classical, jazz, old country, punk rock, classic rock, hard rock, broadway, old rhythm and blues, gospel, old folk especially Simon and Garfunkel, grunge, melodic death metal, symphonic metal, avant-garde, blues, opera, old pop (1920s-half of the 2000s, but not Disney Channel), Folk metal/rock, reggae, and maybe more. However, I would rather not listen to modern pop, modern day rap, dubstep, modern country maybe, or commercial music at all. Black metal and death metal musicians are incredibly talented musicians and songwriters, but the problem about black metal and death metal is that most black metal can have satanic themes and a lot of death metal themes can be about graphic violence like Cannibal Corpse and some of them can be about satanism such as Deicide. Unblack metal and melodic death metal would be a better idea because the lyrical themes can be about nature, mythology, literature, sorrow, oceans, christianity, love, poetry, fantasy, and a few more interesting things that don't have to be controversial. List of artists that I love listening to: Mastodon Dark Tranquility Pearl Jam Alice in Chains Van Halen Led Zeppelin Avril Lavigne Justin Timberlake Adele John Mayer Dream Theater Queen In Mourning Omnium Gatherum Insomnium Porcupine Tree Opeth Rush Pink Floyd Deep Purple There's so many musical artists that I love to listen to that I can't make a list out of List of artists that I just personally don't like: Justin Bieber (I'm glad he's gotten better though) Miley Cyrus Ariana Grande (good singer though) Taylor Swift (good person though) Nicki Minaj Nickelback (maybe) Drake One Direction 5 Seconds of Summer Fifth Harmony Lil Wayne Iggy Azalea Fall Out Boy (later). I love their old music though. Meek Mill Wiz Khalifa Demi Lovato Some Katy Perry songs might be decent, but I'd prefer her as a person more.

[@doublea125]

Hi. I'm a metalhead stuck in the past eras. A majority of the music I listen to came out before the turn of the century. I can name exactly two bands that have formed after 2000 that I listen to. Would like to take your advice and catch up on the recent stuff to see what I'm missing out on. Recommend me a good gateway band into the new millennium.

[@legoshi5925]

This list is now one of the best videos i've seen on youtube, all these things are situations i've had to deal with, the worst is when someone asks what bands i like and one i mention is mastodon, which usually gets a good response from the asker, but then they develop a sudden desire to burn me on a stake when i also mention korn and limp bizkit

[@lipipragyadevi]

I wish fellow metalheads were more open minded

[@Highrollinhunter]

I used to hate gothic metal like lacuna coil because I wanted to hear more of Cristina or other female singers not the guys and how I thought Thrash Metal and Death Metal was superior my opinion changed as a Thrasher I get shit on for my opinions I actually like Gothic Symphonic Metal you have to have a specific taste to like bands like Nightwish

[@geekymetalhead5112]

CKN I have a question, do you listen to Viking Metal? If so what artists?

[@Faerie_Kim]

There are three good nu-metal albums. Korn 'Korn', Slipknot 'Slipknot' and Linkin Park 'Hybrid Theory'. Not a style of metal I enjoy usually but bite me if you think those albums suck.

[@Liam-sn7zz]

I love your shirt omg

[@borisscatterbrayne6502]

i know i want it

[@cartercrawford9000]

I'm one of those people who think old metal is better and I'm 16 but it's only because I haven't found any metal bands out there that I like other than a couple like Ghost or Still Rebel or Joyce Manor, but will you guys leave me some modern metal artists to check out because I really do want to hear some new shit that I can get behind

[@anthonymoran6989]

Also what death metal bands would do you recommend for a first timer? Excluding Death.

[@DeathReich2222]

Go all in dude. Skip entry level stuff and get into the good shit. hahaha

[@anthonymoran6989]

+RainHavoc Thanks for the bands!

[@EMMIR_KC]

+Anthony Moran RainHavoc's list is very good. I'd toss in Deicide and Decapitated too.

[@DC-yb7qd]

Five finger death punch, asking alexandria

[@ohioalphornmusicalsawman2474]

I agree totally with what you are saying about us metalheads enjoying multiple genres. I've seen Maiden, Malmsteen, and Michael Schenker live. I've also seen Styx, Night Ranger, Barry Manilow, Michael W. Smith, as well as enjoying attending Polka festivals. I love Polka music. Slovenian Buttonbox virtuoso Dennis Novato, the Malmsteen of Buttonbox/Polka music, may be in my 6 CD changer after Seventh Son of a Seventh Son. Variety is beautiful😊 Metalheads think of Accept/Scorpions when thinking of Germany. I also think of Buttonbox/Trumpet virtuosos performing in a Polka band. There are so many styles of great music, and I respect all virtuosos. Bruce Dickinson and Halford fans are missing out if they do not enjoy a little Italian opera.

[@asa318i]

You're spot on dude. The sorts of attitudes you talk about take me back to the schoolyard - you had to pass the 'poser' test before you could talk to others about metal or even have the privilege to swap tapes & listen to other bands you hadn't heard yet. I don't think it's as bad these days - you can check out anything you like thanks to the inter-web - but I think the whole snobbish attitude some have to music in general is complete bullshit. Listen to as much as you can - music is the best!

[@Horsemen4deth]

what do you think of carley rae jepson? I really liked the emotion album and wanted to know your thoughts.

[@crazydud3380]

Well said, and agree with almost all of it. Being a working adult, two new bands a day is a bit of a tall order, especially if, like me, you're probably already closely following more than 20, and not all metal. For those who can count the bands they follow on one hand, though, I think that is a good challenge.

[@mastercyconide7660]

You would hate the metal subreddit. They pretty much do everything you said that you hate.

[@beatnik1]

THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO! Everything you've stated is exactly what I think needs to stop with a lot of metalheads. It's really most people, not just metalheads. I get this question a lot, "how can you listen to that?" I ask them what they listen to and to their response I'll ask, "how can you listen to that?" Usually their response is "because it's good" or "I like it," then I'll tell them that that's why I listen to the music that they're inquiring about how can I stand to listen to it. Whether or not they like my answer, that's their problem. I enjoy metal and rock, and will listen to some pop especially 80's and 90's. I can't stand most rap nowadays, it's mostly just garbage (Drake, Lil Wayne). Rage Against The Machine and Body Count are the only groups with rap vocals that I like. I'll never understand why some people listen to some of the shit that I'm constantly being subjected to whether it's from someone's shitty bass system in their car (so shitty that everything is rattling so bad, you can't understand what is even being played) or some shitty artist mumbling some dumb rap on his phone through a bluetooth speaker at top volume, but I won't call them the worst people on earth. I'm guilty of constantly playing my metal on a display wi-fi tablet at work loudly, mind you it's not the loudest, but it's loud enough that I can at least hear some of the instrumental bits, and the worst thing is when a customer will usually turn it off and put something else on (usually rap), in which case I'd like to tell them kindly that I don't go to your house and change whatever you've got going on, please don't do it while I'm working. I know it's a display tablet that's open for everyone, but there's more than one where I'm at. I guess that I could say the point I'm making with that is too many people react negatively towards music that they don't listen to by turning it off, and there's way too many people that react negatively towards that, sometimes even violently. I'm rambling at this point, so I'll stop. Thanks again for this video, keep uploading more stuff.

[@crashman27]

so many good points. great video. u should make a video of your top 5 bands to come out of the last 5-10 years...cuz i cant find any real good ones lol

[@caseyrauch9151]

Ignorance and egotism is all the needs removed from humanity. A central honest understanding would be great, but that only happens when the world goes nuts then realizes it is going nuts. This applies to every aspect of negative shit in humanity. It starts with consideration. Gorguts, Morbid Angel, Suffocation, Nile, Ulcerate, and Gorgoroth get played the most around this metal heads dwelling.

[@Ryan_Thompson_Guitarist]

The thing is, Def Leppard WERE a genuine Metal band in 1979 and 1980 (Their 1979 EP and 1980's On Through The Night)

[@kylebryan4295]

I can flip between Meshuggah to ABBA in an instant 😂

[@fictionalsilence]

I was just listening to Nightwish and scrolled through the comments section, so much hate and immaturity, it would be so much nicer and more fun to be on the internet if people could just be friends.

[@liquidsunshine1501]

Make a podcast! I would listen to this type of stuff all day. I absolutely love intelligent conversation that forces me outside of my comfort zone and you have definitely accomplished that. Well done, sir

[@Worline8628]

I'm actually really curious. What type of hip hop do you like?

[@denisewalker7235]

I keep discovering new metal artists and it is ok if you like other music genres.

[@fredthebear277]

Denise Walker yes

[@Brendini27]

5) I feel the same way about nu metal as you do glam metal; some of it is metal while some leans more on the rock side. I'd say bands like KoRn, Mudvayne, Godsmack, Slipknot, Disturbed (at least their early stuff), and Coal Chamber were on the metal side whereas bands like Limp Bizkit, Papa Roach, Linkin Park, and P.O.D. were on the rock side. 4) God, I hate the whole "poser" thing. Sure, I love bands like SoaD, A7X, and Metallica, but I also love bands like Death, Entombed, Testament, Behemoth, Goatwhore, etc.. I can like both without being a goddamn poser. 3) I think metal has been great in every decade since it was created (maybe besides the 70s since there wasn't much of it). Sure, the 80s had bands like Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax, Slayer, etc. putting out great album after great album, and most of the most iconic metal bands/albums/songs came from this decade, but the 90s, 2000s, and 10s have been just as good. The 90s had Pantera, Machine Head, Megadeth, Fear Factory, Death, and a LOT more putting out great release after great release, and nowadays we have both new and old awesome bands putting out amazing albums in literally every sub-genre of metal. If anything, we have the best selection of metal ever nowadays.

[@chocolatepudding1241]

In a music appreciation class that I took, the professor said that hundreds of years ago, when a new era of music would start, the older people scoffed at the young people who listened to the newer music, saying they needed to listen to “real” music. I guess this topic isn’t new to humanity

[@jrager915]

oh my Jesus!! where did you get that shirt?? only people ive seen with that shirt are the people I work with

[@salvadormartinez2469]

All of this I agree with! Sure, I don't listen to metal often (I like crossover the most out of punk and heavy metal) but when I do, I enjoy it, I feel the energy the song gives off it's just a real fun genre of music. No subculture, none at all, new or old should have the attitudes you discuss.

[@kaelanmcalpine2011]

I know one non-metal artist that I think alot of people would enjoy. Try the electronic artist Varien, he incorporates a bunch of heavy metal influence in his music and even has a couple of music theories like why are metalcore/deathcore and dubstep breakdowns so brutal? Good places to start are Valkyrie, The Scarlet Dawn, Lilith, Throne of Ravens, Mirrors, Gunmetal Black, Moonlight and Morphine.

[@kaz687]

I'll be sure to keep that in mind whenever I get curious for something different.

[@Googopqp]

I've recently become reintroduced with my musical roots and I've been trying to listen to new music constantly. Everything from Leviathan to De La Soul. I really liked your points on this video, because music is an appreciation it isn't a competition. As to your homework assignment I think that's a terrific idea. Here's some bands for your homework if you haven't already listened to them, which I'm guessing you have: Boris Bongripper Weekend Nachos Earth Madlib Django Reinhardt

[@whippybox9271]

Awesome video! Subscribed yesterday after your Deftones Gore review. Glad I did

[@chocolatepudding1241]

I listen to older metal, I listen to newer metal, but I also listen to classical, classic rock, and indie

[@BobbiThrashoholic]

I think someone called me a poser once behind my back, but I might've misheard it too

[@vinnyhydeSWT]

Modern metalcore movements, which has been going on for over a decade... to me, it is just kind going downhill while still getting slowly better at times.... anyone can like those bands if they want to. But it is kind of like how the metal community reacted to hair metal. Everyone has their own preference afterall. Anyways, thx you ckn for your service on KZbin especially with dis video. It inspired me to become much more open minded to other music no matter what genre or timeframe. And it is a great feeling

[@vgmaster9]

Some metalheads tend to think that any genre outside of metal sucks.

[@tommydolan4281]

Does the group Brand New technically count as a brand new band?

[@undoingruin4203]

Great video coverkiller, I literally agree with everything you said in this video 1000%. Thanks for making this