5 Historical Films That Got the Costumes RIGHT. 🔥

[@bernadettebanner]

I am a literal trash human being and failed to work the designer of Harriet, Paul Tazewell, in the script of that section. 😵😵😵 Thus herein lies my dedicated Appreciation Post for Paul Tazewell and his team, on that film as well as just generally. You may be familiar with his work on Hamilton--and thus may also have caught my previous analysis of his brilliant strategy on adapting historical dress for demanding choreography!

[@justaname6011]

Do a part 2 in order to redeem that mistake

[@lumis5896]

Stop calling yourself trash - you're an excellent young lady! Thanks for highlighting Gentleman Jack, it's such an underrated series.

[@JcSaulog]

This just means you now have reason to make a part 2 to this video 👀

[@AB-dg4ve]

Please analyze pride and prejudice 1995

[@classicslover]

(raises eyebrow) Nope. Not trash. But...you don't like Jane Austin? Really Bernadette? Is there even repentance for that?

[@alaiahankey4994]

Alternate title: Bernadette finally not raging at bad historical costumes cause they're actually good

[@arakheno4051]

Raging, gushing .. same energy, opposing structure .. always a pleasure to watch.

[@Caroline28483]

Alternate alternate title: Bernadette simping over hands stitching and proper silhouettes for approximately 22 minutes

[@NJ-Cathie]

Love!!!

[@Shcreamingreen]

"Wolf's Hall", "The Duelists" and "The Mill and the Cross" are also worth mentioning for exceptionally accurate costumes and scenography. (I'm posting this comment here so more people can see these films, and hopefully Bernadette as well)

[@tabriscarrillo5525]

The Movie.

[@toriander1080]

I worked in the costume department of Harriet. As the assistant ager/dyer I was the one that sewed those mismatched buttons and patches. I am SO happy you noticed the thought and care everyone put into making sure her costumes told a story.

[@betenoireindustries]

i'm curious as to the purpose of the shoulder/armscye piecing on that striped ensemble. what did that imply? resizing? reuse? very apropos. i've done ten years of extreme aging/dying/distressing for things like wasteland weekend and other theatricals - well done, you.

[@toriander1080]

@@betenoireindustries The designer imagined it would have been resized or torn there if I recall! We all also had problems with the cotton majorly stretching out during the distressing process, to where it no longer the same size as the interlining, but fortunately we had already planned on adding the patches and were able to hide the small tucks under them.

[@edc3665]

OMG THATS SO COOL!!!!

[@--Lissy]

Woah-

[@broganmckoko]

Very cool! So awesome to see someone who worked on the project give personal insight. So am I to assume you roughly. constructed the garment then aged it which led to the stretching?

Not to give you silly ideas, but The Globe costumes basically deserve a whole video/review on their own 😎

[@finallyforfeited]

Hi karolina!! Love you 💜💜💜💜

[@nerdiusgeekius3483]

HEYYY maybe you could make the irene Adler dress from Sherlock Holmes please???

[@naz4488]

Omg hi Karolina! I love your videosssss

[@Hello-kx6tf]

One of my favorite KZbinrs reacting to another favorite KZbinr! Yesss

[@livjones2917]

I really want to do the backstage tour at The Globe again, as each time you go around the tour guides have different knowledge about different aspects of the period and areas of the theatre. It can be so satisfying

[@James-gy8sj]

I'll be honest, I'm a 36 year old Dad that started looking for how-to's on girl's winter capes (cloaks) and ended up here. I have an 8 year old daughter and a sewing machine and also love to dress her up. You got me geeking on Victorian style dresses and coats... Might make one for her now (I'm very much competitive). Thank you for this content, love it

[@flygirl6048]

Best dad award!!

[@donagorali5950]

So how did it go....?

[@hunnypie1873]

You got a single bro? 😏😅😭

[@laura-louisetobin6098]

What a great dad!! Learning to sew was so liberating as a teen, making clothes I could never have afforded to buy. Having a parent who sews and can help with fitting and pinning is hugely helpful, and what a nice thing for a father and daughter bond over

[@sjchan3199]

You are going to a very popular dad. Great to hear your enjoying your journey

[@annef0x]

Bernadette literally glowing while taking about Gentleman Jack gives me life.

[@graceriley2500]

"Did I make this entire video as an excuse to rave about Gentleman Jack for approximately 5 minutes straight? IRRELEVANT!" Bernadette you are so brilliantly mixed between millenial and proper speech and it never ceases to amaze and amuse me

[@kellyg2635]

FR

[@janellerowe609]

Yes! My favorite thing about watching this channel

[@NotQuiteSaulsbury]

The parts where she talked about certain characters wearing older fashion than others LITERALLY BROUGHT ME SO MUCH JOY because it not only makes sense but it tells so much about the character in and of themselves. "I am a farmer and don't need a new coat, it's perfectly good as it is." "My dress has a little hole in it but that's okay I can just patch it." "I am disinterested in current fashion and am not in a high enough social class for it to matter so I'll just wear this because I like it." THAT'S CHARACTER BUILDING BOYS

[@helengraves7850]

Even Manhattanites ... I have a jacket from the 1970s and a bunch of stuff - still! - from the 80s.

[@alliem8700]

Or also - "this piece belonged to a loved one who is no longer around, but I wear it because it reminds me of them!"

[@NotQuiteSaulsbury]

@@alliem8700 A worthy addition, to be sure.

[@8arcasticallyYours]

Also, when the richer elements of society had new clothes made for the changes of fashion, servants often received their employers' cast-offs . Thus the lower classes wore the older-fashioned clothing and for a much longer time.

[@carolync21332]

Yesssss like Mrs. Bennet in the 2005 Pride and Prejudice wearing an older dress with a prow front stays rather than the super high bust and empire waist of the more fashionable younger women like Jane Bennet and Caroline Bingley

[@See-.-]

From what I've seen, in Emma. Emma actually repeated several dresses during the movie. All outfits looked different because she combined different petticoats and chemisettes, etc to make them lool different. There is a 33 minute video on youtube by Mariah Pattie analyzing all Emma's outfits, explaing all clothes that was showed in thr movie (from what I remember she only had 6 day dresses and 6 night dresses, 5 different petticoats, so not really that much) As for Emma's hair, I got surprised when you you said the wig was bad, since I thought that it was real hair🤣 I did a little bit of research and I think it was actually Anya's hair,nit was dyed to be a more blonde and I think even her curls were from her own hair

[@roj4169]

She has quite long hair so it wouldn't surprise me if it was her own for the curls

[@jedgrahek1426]

Ha ha ha!!! I came to the comments looking for this exactly, because I was like "what wig?" and "even if it is a wig I don't see at all what is 'so obvious' about it" when she said that. Thank you so much for looking it up and writing what you could find. I'm sure it has more to do with my own ignorance, but honestly I've heard different girls make the same comment so many times in real life whenever a girl in a movie simply has very pretty hair, or long hair, it always "has to be a wig" or "those extensions are so obvious"... again I'm sure they are usually right and I'm just ignorant, but I have to also wonder how much of a role projection and general "she's not actually pretty" type thinking play into those comments.

[@See-.-]

@@jedgrahek1426 I think it depends. I braid my hair, so I tend to look at other people hair often, and it comes naturally for me. So I guess if you're not into hair, you wouldnt mind scarlet witch or black widow with loose hair fighting, but for me it is little bit annoying because It's not practical... also Scarlets wig makes her head form look weird... and in the end it distracts me a bit from the story, nothing serious though hahaha But for sure, there must be people who just comment on hair to critique and be negative.

[@Fafhrd42]

I found an interview where she says that she no longer dyes or bleaches her hair and wears wigs for different productions because for 'Morgan' they bleached her hair from "root to tip once a week for three months" and it nearly destroyed her hair. But an article in Vogue about how they did the look for Emma mentions needing to lighten her hair some, and also goes into the hair care routine used to keep her hair from being damaged by the dye job. It's obviously entirely possible that the Vogue piece is lying a bit in order to advertise a hair product and they did just use a wig, but her natural hair colour is also a perfect match. It's also really common for wigs to be used on everyone in a movie production, because it saves a lot of time in hair and makeup and they don't have to worry about continuity from an actor's hair growing out over a 3-6 month shoot for a movie that takes place over a couple of days.

[@LoriDitchfield]

The only thing I was focused on, that looked wiggy, was the part.

[@blondeviolet]

I feel like "shiftless corset wearer" should be an insult. Also everything about this video made me so happy. I hope you do more because you do them so well, and then we all get to squee along over historical clothing. I remember noticing in the 90's Little Women (not perfect in historical costuming for sure) the dresses being made over and worn by other sisters which I always thought was a nice touch.

[@FlagCutie]

That's it, I'm adding "shiftless corset wearer" to my bag of insults!

[@d.rabbitwhite]

Let us pair it with randy rainbows act of slipping on his pink eye wear right before verbally eviscerating an opponent, and it thus becomes: Do not make me put on my pink eye wear, you shiftless corset wearer

[@justcallmeteacup4711]

@@FlagCutie Lmao I love that you have a whole bag 😂

[@jenninstitches]

@@FlagCutie I was thinking the exact same thing.

[@FlagCutie]

@@justcallmeteacup4711 well I gotta keep them handy in an easily accessible spot! Lol

[@LucyThalangeMezzoSoprano]

So fun fact, I’m actually in Tulip Fever as an extra (one of the singing orphans lol) and no one has seen that film and in my head I was thinking, ‘I wonder how accurate Tulip Fever was... would be weird if Bernadette mentioned it’ and then SHE DID and I SCREAMED. You can actually see me for a few seconds in the footage she chose when Judy Dench is walking passed us orphans sewing!

[@stacyturner8330]

I loved that film. Watched it after returning from Amsterdam and an epic day at Keukenhof scrutinizing the entire park and especially the living tulip museum growing there. It was a wonderful glimpse into the 'Craze' and the whole strange world that came into being as the stock market was essentially invented.

[@BlitzsieLDiscoLSnow]

I've seen the film in the cinema when it was in theatres in the Netherlands. It was amazing. And I really loved the fact that a non-Dutch person had so much interest in our history to make a whole film about one very specific Dutch historicla event. I only heard about the tulip fever as an off-hand comment during history lessons, and I had the Dutch equivalent of A-level history in high school. The clothes were on-point, and really helped to transport me to the different timeperiod. Amazing.

[@medicwebber3037]

That must have been so fun to be in the movie, and then so awesome to have the clothing critiqued by a person you’re a fan of.... and AMAZING to see yourself in a clip of said movie being used by a person you’re a fan of! Lol. Serendipity.

[@LucyThalangeMezzoSoprano]

Bellaen I’m so glad you enjoyed it! The scenes in the convent were filmed in Norwich Cathedral (my home town in the UK). They needed young girls who could sing some plainchant and as Norwich Cathedral had a girls choir it only made sense to use us! It was so fun and definitely not something I thought I would find myself doing as a chorister!

[@LucyThalangeMezzoSoprano]

Medic Webber absolutely! It was so exciting, I’d never done anything like it before... there was lots of sitting around but I do remember one take where Dane DeHaan completely ran into me and grabbed me by the shoulders and threw me out of the way! But of a shock but all in the name of art I suppose! 😂 But you are right, Bernadette’s approval makes all those days of not being allowed to wash my hair worth it!!

[@amandanowicka4009]

My mother, 86, was part of a team of lace makers that made lace for the ruffs for the Globe theatre. Each ruff, she tells me, has 10 metres of handmade bobbin lace. Their lace was also part of an exhibition at the V&A.

[@daniellepages14]

Hello! Would you please tell me what the V&A is? I’m French and don’t know it.

[@the_modern_alchemist]

@@daniellepages14 the Victoria & Albert Museum

[@amandanowicka4009]

@@daniellepages14 my apologies just picked up message. There is also an amazing fashion museum in the city of Bath, a must see for us ladies that love history.

[@bananaborz1]

@@amandanowicka4009 O my! I was in Bath only in January. I wish I had known about this museum 😓.

[@rfresa]

That's incredible. My mom (age 66) has a set of bobbins and has made some lace as a hobby, and it really is an amazing art form.

[@Superkroolik]

I'd like to add to the Emma's costuming, I really appreciated skin blemishes (especially redness on their faces and chests) and bad teeth.

[@fernagaric2705]

It bothers me that some period movies show perfect skin and teeth. Like???? They didn't have moisturizer cream and charcoal toothpaste back then..

[@namedrop721]

@@fernagaric2705 américain and aussie actors are basically required to have perfect teeth, culturally. I’ve noticed even big name uk stars don’t all have veneers and this contributes substantially to their authenticity in a period film. That said, people did try to take care of their teeth and would have largely unrotten ones unless wealthy(sugar) or destitute (disease). But wine and tea do stain the teeth as does a lifetime, so it would be more period accurate to dim down the most blinding whites in most cases.

[@pjstatenisland1575]

And smallpox scars!

[@cattycorner8]

There is a middle ground, I think. I do not want any attribute to be so pronounced or garish as to divert attention from all else.

[@cattycorner8]

@@namedrop721 I have no quarrel with that, but any stains I have to look at for 2 hours had better contribute to character development.

[@_inhisbluegardens]

The untidy hair in Gentleman Jack made me delightedly gasp, "She's got wispies!! Anne Lister's got wispies!!!" As a perpetually messy-haired bog witch, it was WONDERFUL.

[@michelinanelson-olivieri1278]

Oh my god, small correction: Anne Lister actually wore men's boots regularly! The thing about her diaries is that she was METICULOUS about the details of her daily life, down to her fashion. She writes regularly about buying new garments, having to darn them, and how she adjusted them to fit her personal style. It's fascinating, and something I actually talk about it in my master's thesis on her.

[@SusanYeske701]

See, this is why I like to go through all the comments, gems like this.

[@BriarRoseBotany]

In the room where it happens! Sharing passion for historical dress, I’m totally here for it!

[@Kilgore42]

Would you be willing to share your thesis? That sounds amazing.

[@MikuruChan123]

Super interesting! :O However, I do believe Bernadette's argument of character portrayal is sound. She does also state that the costumers clearly did their research, so even if Bernadette didn't know, the costume staff certainly did!

[@ThePixiixiq]

I would really love to read your thesis too, if possible!

[@Chibihugs]

Yes, for the 1830s crazy hair amidst the joy that is Gentleman Jack. May I just say that I completely cackled over the titles of "posh blonde chap" and "farm chap". Let them be known as such henceforth.

[@bernadettebanner]

I realized whilst writing the script that I never figured out their names and just decided to roll with it 😬

[@ellenayres4575]

@@bernadettebanner We're so glad you did. It fits with the "some dude" from the corset myths video.

[@consideredwhisper]

Chibihugs The poor beleaguered UK is currently under the thumb and in thrall to said Posh Blonde Chap and it is not boding well for the sundry masses. Woe is everywhere about in these shires: we are undone.

[@felicitygee381]

@@consideredwhisper yes this, just this

[@adiposeNarnian]

@@consideredwhisper can't complain; I'm in Texas, and I've been under the thrall of said Posh Blonde Chap for nearly a decade!

[@KillerCat10]

Having Bernadette switch between her unbelievably articulate, academic speech to “they really went hard with the ruff game” will never fail to amuse me

[@telliusbian]

"Something extraordinary happens when one's exposed to a thing repeatedly for a period of time. Far from perpetually seeing it as alien and weird for the rest of eternity, most of us adopt a familiar acceptance of said thing and learn to appreciate a little - if not substantial - bit of beauty in it" HUGE AGREE. I used to be a security guard at an art museum and I *hated* renaissance fashion until I was assigned to guard a renaissance tapestry exhibition. And let me tell you - there's no way to appreciate the ridiculous fashion of the Italian Renaissance until you're paid to stare at it for 20+ hours lol!!

[@BriarRoseBotany]

rusalochka wow, it’s the little joys in life!

[@hobknobcreations4737]

When not entranced by your comments and analysis, I was thrilled to spy your latest witch bonnet atop your mannequin

[@reesekolcow6136]

Ooohhhhh! I almost missed that!

[@grandcarriage1]

I spotted that right away

[@jennhill8708]

And, Bernadette, have you trimmed your hair? I need to take my biotin admixture, as my hair is falling out.

[@EmeraldVideosNL]

Oh! Is there a video coming about it by any chance? I don't have instagram but I take it that's where it's been shown before?

[@laurens7731]

@@EmeraldVideosNL I think she's made a video on making one before 💕

[@aadkinsl3095]

Because of you I got into an argument about corsets in my renaissance history lectures zoom chat. We were discussing a portrait of a wealthy Venetian woman (c. 16th century), and someone in the chat said "the corsets must have been the worst" and like, five of us immediately pounced with the "uhm actually corsets (as we know them) didn't exist at that time sdfkajsdhfkajsdfh" I hope you're proud

[@bernadettebanner]

I am beaming 😍

[@aadkinsl3095]

Bernadette Banner thank you queen 🥺

[@sophiaB270]

Yes a similar thing happened to me but with my sister!! She was saying something about corsets I dont remember exactly, but like about them being uncomfortable or something and OH BOY WAS SHE NOT READY FOR WHAT WAS GOING TO COME NEXT. I literally made her watch Bernadette's corset-explanation-thing-video and then priorattire's corset myth-busting videos and went through it and explained it all until she fully understood each detail!!😂😂😂😂😂at least now shes more educated on the topic hahaha👌👌👌

[@princessatarockconcert]

That happened with a friend of mine. She said she learned in a class that corsets were so tight laced women fainted frequently and I was like.....Bernadette and the rest of all women through out history would argue that but okay

[@celenameg]

lol me.

[@sylvassasalladsbestick1342]

In Tulip Fever, the street scenes are so good! It's not just random people walking around aimlessly. You get the feeling that every single one of them have a reason to be there. Which is great! And like, there's someone riding on a mule - A MULE!! How amazing is that?!? The presence of the mule tells me that someone did their research. If you think hair and makeup is bad in historical movies... Oh boy, do I have sad news for you regarding the horror of equestrian inaccuracies! Knowing and caring enough about historical context and accuracy to find and use an actual mule is amazing, but doing so just to build a more convincing world around the characters? 100/10. Bless whoever made that decision ❤️❤️❤️

[@dr_ty]

Am I the only one who could watch Bernadette every day?

[@bernadettebanner]

😭♥️

[@BirdLady2782]

No

[@rebeldaigle3035]

You act like I do not... It brings great joy

[@blisles7626]

Very much not.

[@agimagi2158]

In fact I re-watch her videos so often while hand sewing that I do watch her almost every day, and it is always such a joy!

[@christabeljoy2443]

No, corsets and stays are not deadly, but wearing them without shifts or corsets is no other than a deadly sin

[@jezpin3638]

This reminds me to buy a new bra because I think the underwire is trying to stab me in the heart

[@jlin592]

Jez Pin ah yes, bras do that on occasion

[@christabeljoy2443]

Jez Pin haha underwire is literally so annoying 😆

[@Vgladstone1]

I worked on Harriet, Paul Tazwell is a genius.

[@apprenticelibrarian]

“I really don’t want to hear more moaning about the oppressiveness of historical underwear from actresses like...ever.” It’s okay you can say Emma Watson 👀😂

[@loltadynicneni913]

Well, it's not only Emma Watson, there were MANY more of them.

[@katherinemorelle7115]

@@loltadynicneni913 oh goodness yes! So many! I think the most ridiculous one I heard was Lily James complaining about her (admittedly far too small and tightlaced) corset from Cinderella. She said that it was so tight that she had to have aliquot diet and that it caused her the most terrible stomach pain! Of course, that pain was likely because she didn’t have the good sense to not have Diet Coke as a large part of said liquid diet. She’s wearing a very tight (too tight) garment over her torso, and thought that adding a whole bunch of gas to that equation was a good idea? That was definitely on her lack of common sense, and not on corsets in general. Though because she said it in an interview, people will believe it.

[@mmmirei]

@@katherinemorelle7115 I feel like she should’ve just told whoever was pacing her up to loosen it a little. The dress would’ve looked just as amazing with a bit larger waist, and if Emma Watson has the authority to completely refuse to wear a corset, I think Lily James can tell them to loosen the corset a bit.

[@katherinemorelle7115]

@@mmmirei what with the super huge skirts and the large Bertha, her wait would have looked tiny with absolutely no reduction at all. It just wasn’t necessary. The problem is that a lot of actresses expect corsets to be far too tight and very painful, so they just put up with it, and don’t demand corsets that fit, that are made well, that are seasoned properly, laced properly, and that have shifts/chemises underneath. They just don’t know enough to demand proper corsetry. And then they further the myth of corsets as torture devices, and then the next actress also doesn’t know how they should actually be worn, and the cycle continues.

[@quixoticvalkyrie]

@@mmmirei I think she said that they were specifically trying to get her down to a 17-inch waist so even if she asked them to loosen it, I doubt that would go over well.

[@victoria-dn2ru]

Movie clothes designers: “We should do this as historically accurate as we can” Random person: “Why, though? Nobody’s gonna notice or appreciate it” Bernadette: “I’m about to end this man’s whole career”

[@gusmonster59]

Loads of us notice. I am not the person to watch a 'historical' movie with. **L**

[@missg.5940]

I always look at the clothes. Sometimes l think,,,what?

[@es4666]

I always notice too

[@neuralmute]

I am HELL to watch historical movies or series with. Even Gentleman Jack, because I just spend all my time swooning over Suranne Jones.

[@Ivecket]

Nobody cares about random person's opinion.

[@glowingfreezer]

2002: No one will ever need more than DVD resolution 2010: No one will ever need more than 1080p 2016: No one will ever need videos in 4k resolution 2020: Hand-sewn buttonholes! Basting stitches! Lace details! Whee!

[@jeric_synergy8581]

LOL, same: I was thinking: "How GOOD is BB's television anyway???"

[@Alte.Kameraden]

Haha, I wonder if that really has something to do with the increased attention to detail in clothing design?

[@lyndabethcave3835]

It wouldn’t surprise me if the increasing resolution in films is a major factor in more historical techniques on screen. It’s harder to fudge things in 4K.

[@Alte.Kameraden]

@@lyndabethcave3835 No more clothe chainmail like on Brave Heart? =D

[@googlethis313]

Kameraden ,😳!!! NOOOOO!!!! Say it isn’t so! What scenes/part in the movie shows this? I’m seriously rethinking my whole existence because of this comment!

[@mhschiller714]

So, I'm a hairstylist and something that always makes me sad is when they tame down/modernize the hair styles of the 1800's. Give me wild shapes and odd adornments!!! And now I must watch Gentlemen Jack, because it looked amazing.

[@Kahako_the_Fae]

There is NOTHING like good costuming to make you desire to watch a movie

[@michirukaioh4014]

Excellent costumes, excellent hairstyles, excellent acting (I love when they break the 4th wall), excellent argument. It is easily one of my favourites shows

[@TheMuseAphelion]

The show is fantastic! So well done and acted! Highly recommend!

[@jordanblack5608]

I love that you mentioned the Globe's production of "Twelfth Night"! I got to see the production when they moved it to New York in 2013, and one of the coolest parts was the costumes. They even had all of the actors prepare for the show on stage, so the audience could see them get dressed, showcasing the sheer beauty of the costumes as well as the accuracy of how each piece would be layered and placed. I DIED. SO GOOD.

[@uschilou]

Wow, that's a once in a lifetime experience! So cool!!

[@Lespace2]

It is just a pity, that the acting itself has nothing, as I saw it in the view sequences here shown, to do with the accurate acting of the time, the baroque gesture art was completely different to this modern acting.

[@zoec.4343]

every time an actress complains about wearing a corset, a fashion historian somewhere dies. i think this video brought at least eight back to life

[@bernadettebanner]

-dies- plots world domination 😶

[@spectacularbear]

@@bernadettebanner Bernadette the historical necromancer 😂

[@caligulalonghbottom2629]

Maybe the actresses are complaining because although the real historic stays/corsets wouldn't be very tight and uncomfortable, maybe the ones they are 'forced' to wear in production during very long grueling hours aren't fitted properly and might be far tighter laced than they would really be...

[@zoec.4343]

@@caligulalonghbottom2629 yes exactly the historical inaccuracy of the corsets is what kills fashion historians

[@cometkatt]

@@caligulalonghbottom2629 it was said that Liz Taylor was so tightly laced in taming of the shrew she actually ended up with a back injury..(that and the weight of the clothes which probably werent properly made in the first place) so i could see that being true.

[@insipidwallflower565]

What I appreciate about Emma's costumes are that she often wears the same dress throughout the day, but makes it appropriate for the time of day by layering and adding or taking away accessories.

[@Bjjbhcoa86]

yes, she has many petticoats with different colours underneath so her beautiful slightly transparent white dresses look like they are completely different dresses :D

[@scoutlaceharding]

They put so much thought into what the wardrobe of a woman of her class would actually look like throughout a year. I don't exactly blame movies when they want to have their heroine in a new amazing gown for every scene, but the layering and "remixes" she does are realistic in a way I find deeply satisfying. I used to be bewildered when I watched adaptations and looked at fashion plates of the era because they make it seem like genteel ladies were changing their entire dress at least 3 times a day, lol.

[@dianithrosa8343]

She’s radiating joy at such a niche thing and tbh I ain’t a seamstress but I LIVE for this.

[@rebeccagoulding92]

I'm so glad you talked about the disheveled hair and dress in GJ. One of the oddest things I find with the entertainment world is how they condition us to believe we need to see elements of period dress in a more modern softened way because *gasp* we just won't relate to the story otherwise. But then they make the characters so unattainably perfect with not a hair out of place despite the fact that they just spent the last four hours on a horse in the woods. We can believe the latter but we can't handle accurate 18 century lip rouge?

[@illiengalene2285]

Like my teacher said: Every Shark is a fish, but not every fish is a shark. Everyone tight laced, has to wear a corset, but not everyone wearing a corset is tightly laced. It's as nonsensical as to say: You have heels on your shoes, you ruin your feet from the added height!(if it's a ½in heel on mens shoes)

[@erinoconnor1711]

I liken it to modern jeans... most people wear them, some people wear skinny jeans, some people wear such skinny jeans it interfers with their blood circulation

[@lisam5744]

Your comment about designers needing to get it right with their costumes struck me. My father was a WWII historian and uniform recreator and was a stickler for getting it right. He was hired to be a consultant on the extremely forgettable John Belushi movie, '1941'. The costumer designer for this movie had put a leather jacket with a uniform. My father told her that that jacket did not go with that uniform and that they (jacket and uniform) were from different branches of the service and would never have been worn together. Her response was, 'We don't care...it looks good'. Yeah, that was my father's first and last day as a consultant on that movie. I'm glad that getting it right is now something that costume designers take pride in.

[@craffte]

Integrity wears so well. You should be proud.

[@cattycorner8]

I actually remember that film.

[@picmajik]

Also some costume designers would get it right but are told by the director/producer/art director to change it due to their ideas of what is appropriate or just want more cleavage. Budget and time restrictions are also factors.

[@cristinamtz.9263]

La dignidad es primero...eso se está perdiendo

[@thunderbird1921]

I LOVE Sergei Bondarchuk's war epics (War and Peace, Waterloo, etc.) for that very reason. The accuracy of appearance and events is INCREDIBLE. You literally feel time-transported to a Napoleonic Wars battlefield. Hands down one of the most underrated movie directors in cinema history.

[@saracaudill]

I thoroughly enjoyed all the fan-girling, *ahem*, I mean very professional analysis of period movie costumes constructed with respect for the era and story. It helped me appreciate the effort even more, and I think it is wonderful that you are donating revenue from this post to the Costume Industry Coalition!

[@BriarRoseBotany]

So wonderfully contributing to the community we all want to survive during the hardships that is COVID. Thank you Bernadette!

[@scouttyra]

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[@noobenny]

Does anyone else think that it’s adorable when Bernadette gets excited about the littlest things and details? I completely understand it and it’s so funny to see someone so “proper” in both body language and speech, geek out for a second😂

[@genevievelai7079]

Actually in Emma, while she does have a LOT of outfit changes, she does actually wear the same dresses, but they look different because of different Spencer jackets, pelisse's, chemisette's, and different colored petticoats. The first few times I watched it I didn't notice her reuse of dresses because of all the different embellishments that drew the eye, but afterwards I noticed that she does reuse a couple white muslin dresses, the striped blue dress, and a few evening dresses. This is a link to a complete breakdown of everything she wore! kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXzdfmyQgpeYfrs And yes she does probably have more clothing than would be historically accurate, but it was fascinating to see how the costumer reused certain dresses while switching other accessories to make it seem like her closet was much vaster then it actually was!

[@jyounghee]

Interesting. Might wanna rewatch again to appreciate these details because when i watched it for the first time i was looking at the interior design all the time and didn't pay enough attention to the the dresses. Thank you!

[@MiljaHahto]

Also if I remember correctly, Emma was from a very wealthy family, unlike some other figures Austen created.

[@DianaHernandez-jf5zo]

Milja Hahto ur correct :)

[@cindland]

First Few Times??? I’m so in love with Gwyneth Paltrow’s Emma, my loyalty wont let me watch the new one yet! I still haven’t recovered from the clip of new-Emm’s father jumping down off the steps. This review may coax me yet.

[@KatieCottingham]

Yes! Being a frightfully detail oriented person myself, I noticed at least 3 dresses reworn in my first in theater viewing (second to last movie I got to see in a theater) and I noticed more in a rewatch months later. The details they had to stretch with things like setting/set dressing, props, and even scenes was definitely made up for in the costuming, and the performances really sold the story better than I think I could've ever imagined. Emma is a movie I'll probably watch again a few more times just because it makes me happy to see and hear the level of detail. That's the thing most people, as usual, overlooked: the sound design. The effort put in to making this *sound* accurate is just delightful. ❤

[@wolfinthelight26]

My mom was listening to a pod cast the other day that spoke of the horrors of corsets and their medical “dangers”, so I had to give her a twenty minute rant about how historically inaccurate that was and how the patriarchy had stolen the narrative. I needed to make Bernadette proud

[@ebbezackariasson3736]

@Jessie Jameson bernaheads

[@KristinMoran]

Fansarios?

[@KristinMoran]

Then my mind went off on a tangent that fans could be organized by guinea pig generations. I started watching during the reign Cesario, first of his name.

[@I2345-t9e]

I’m a bit clueless, so could someone explain what it means that „the patriarchy stole the narrative“ ? How was patriarchy responsible for popularizing the image of corsetry being dangerous and oppressing? I had the impression that it is more widespread on the side that wants to free the woman from that supposed oppression (I’m trying to be careful not to say feminism because that would seem like I dislike it and believe everyone were like that, which is both untrue)

[@NWolfsson]

@@I2345-t9e Karolina Zrbrovska, a Polish youtuber, "weirdo obsessed with the past, vintage style and fashion history geek, appreciator of old things in general", made a video called "How Victorian Men Taught Us To Hate Corsets: [...]" (link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH_ahaSXo9Vjd9k ). In it, she explores where the corsets' bad rep comes from, starting with epoch satires, mostly by men trying to amalgamate coset wearing and tight-lacing, parodying the reduction in daily papers' drawings, and calling upon a thousand fake medical issues the coset causes to the wearer. It's a 15mn watch, I'd recommend it, always with a grain of salt of course.

[@MorganDonner]

I will forever stan all things Gentleman Jack - I loved so many of the elements you mentioned, and am so delighted to discover a few more that I hadn't seen before! 😍

[@Vintagebursche]

This!

[@kittycat3312]

Me too! But it is definitely a show to watch WITHOUT the family.

[@crimsonscarlet5939]

I watched all of gentleman jack with my mum we both adored it

[@desireepetitdemurat8660]

One of my favorite shows ever.

[@kat369-mine]

Haven't been able to get it where I live yet. Working on it. But I read about her. Some of it was to sad. Being "different" in any time is hard. And harder to have the courage to live your life as you want anyway.

[@katiemoum2216]

I'm very happy you mentioned Emma in this video! The costumes were divine! However, I would like to point out the Anya was not wearing a wig in this movie -- that was her real hair!

[@KalikaXX]

sorry, who's Anya? Are you confusing this with Anastasia (the animated movie)?

[@katiemoum2216]

@@KalikaXX No. I’m referring to Anya Taylor-Joy, the actress from Emma. In this video, she was said to be wearing a wig and it wasn’t good. I was pointing out that it was actually her real hair.

[@KalikaXX]

@@katiemoum2216 Ah, I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about Emma Watson.

[@ladysilkwing]

@@katiemoum2216 She also plays Magik (Illyana Rasputin) in The New Mutants

[@seame3795]

I was going to say this too.

[@Adsin16]

I could honestly spend hours just watching Bernadette gushing over historically accurate clothes. People truly and unabashedly enjoying things, whatever their particular interest is, is some of the purest joy to be found online. Thank you for this video, Bernadette.

[@mirjanbouma]

Indeed! People talking passionately about something they care about us almost always interesting.

[@heatherlowe7330]

I agree!

[@gypsyharte17]

My husband kept getting amused by her reactions… lol he appreciates historical clothing in shoes too

[@miawong3411]

Hearing you passionately discuss why things are GOOD as opposed to incorrect was so lovely to watch. While we certainly can't ask or even expect you to make a videos for specific films with your busy schedule, I can't help but wish you used cameo so I could pay for a 1 or 2 minute video with your thoughts on specific movies; your knowledge and insight is just so helpful and infectiously joyful

[@bernadettebanner]

😅 that would involve me actually having seen said films, which is generally not a frequent occurrence!

[@miawong3411]

@@bernadettebanner in a perfect world, with endless time, I would grasp for the opportunity to charge for the time spent watching said movie, of course, with an added surcharge if it was particularly unenjoyable to get through 😁😅

[@harpress]

I absolutely love videos that say "you're doing it right". As much as I respect and appreciate the publics access to information nowdays I am a fan of "build them up" rather than "diss them and shame them into getting better". This makes my heart so happy.

[@martynasmerczek1313]

I have paused when you were talking about Gentleman Jack and I thought to myself "well, I have to watch this series"...and I did last night and finished this morning, this was wonderful, I am amazed by the acting and the whole story, it was beautiful, now I'm crying ...thank you

[@PassionPopsicle]

There's something really interesting about the changing beauty aesthetics. Someone stated that they liked Rosamund Pike better as Jane in the 2005 version go Pride and Prejudice, because she was "prettier" and Jane is described in the book as really pretty. Then someone pointed out that Susannah Harker, who played Jane in bbc's 1995 series, is way closer to the Austen-era notion of beauty - more roman/grecian statues and less round-cheeked heartiness. I love both versions for different reasons and I find the different design choices really interesting.

[@Windyroller]

PassionPopsicle I actually saw both versions again last week, and it struck me on this rewatch how classically aesthetic Jane in the BBC series truly looks. Pretty sure I’ve seen paintings and statues with very similar appearances.

[@taniaelliott4078]

Yeah that's so true. Susannah is no doubt an attractive woman but as soon as I saw her as Jane I was amazed at the perfect casting. Not 'pretty' by today's standards exactly but the exact type that would have been viewed as womanhood perfected in the Regency period. Her demeanour too.

[@kathrynvincent1563]

I also noticed how most of the actresses are rather soft in the 1995 version and “curvier” while the 2005 modernesque take is very skinny as size zeros with boobs was really body trend at the time. The “curvier” softer silhouettes kind of fit the paintings softness of the time and as someone kinda softer and fatter features, I kind of appreciated it being included. Both are very valid and beautiful btw

[@pansepot1490]

Talking about modern aesthetic ruining a period drama what I can’t stomach in the 2005 P&P is KK’s wig and modern heavy makeup. Studied a lot of period portraits in art classes and a modern makeup/hair in a period setting is as striking to me as a pair of jeans.

[@taniaelliott4078]

@@pansepot1490 I don't know enough yet about Regency fashion but I felt like Elizabeth was styled really strangely in the 2005. She just kept wearing these very plain almost working class kind of clothes while her sisters looked better, with bedraggled looking hair. It was so strange. It sometimes looked like her under clothes it was so plain, a chemise or something

[@minatomat]

As a medievalist, one of the most historically inaccurate times perpetrated by Hollywood, I feel the need to point the flawless work in the movie Outlaw King, at least regarding clothing. There are some armor flaws and other things. But mostly it's the best medieval representation in mass media.

[@xxMikumikitakikaxx]

I swooned when I saw that movie. Perfect it was not but good it really was

[@maiasmith3996]

I love that movie! The costumes were great!

[@sorbetsorbet]

Is there anywhere you can watch that film? Id like to see it :)

[@minatomat]

@@sorbetsorbet it's on netflix. Don't know if it's anywhere else

[@xxMikumikitakikaxx]

@@sorbetsorbet it's a Netflix original I believe. In most of the world I think

[@ScarlettAstor]

I love that Ann Walker seemed to have an emotional relationship with her wardrobe. Certain dresses are worn for comfort or confidence. The rate at which they repeat seems to suggest certain favourites. Her mental state also seems to effect her hair, and use of accesories. Shawls and heavier collars to armor her. I'm not knowledgeable about the actual fashion details, but that characyer work is wonderful.

[@sherylhartman]

I would like to give you this little tidbit of why the detail of costumes has improved. I was talking to my costumer about 10 years ago while looking at the emperor's blue armor from Gladiator. It was very cheesy and cheap looking up close with off the shelf gold pieces glued to it. I asked about it. He and his assistant Yelled, as only a costumer can do, "OMG (actually much saltier language) HD has has us working so much more, even on the background costumes, because the camera picks up everything now!"

[@cattycorner8]

You have a costumer?

[@бронза.вафля.конус]

@@cattycorner8 I'm assuming she is a person who acts in plays and such hence, the costumer is the the one making said clothes

[@NovaBrite618]

It’s like old tv shows remastered for modern reruns; everyone’s pancake makeup is so obvious and the sets look so cheap now

[@magnusbane420]

I believe there is one Nickelodeon show where you can see the scrotum of an (ADULT) actor due to HD, I believe Hank or John Green made a short about it

[@Burning_Dwarf]

Psssst in Tulip Fever, the lace was made for the film by hand Dutch& Polish professionals+a lot, and i mean *A LOT* of volunteers How do i know this? friend of mine was one of the volunteers

[@bernadettebanner]

I am not remotely surprised--there's no way lace that true to period could *not* have been hand-made, but it's mind-boggling to think that they actually did!

[@asilverfoxintasmania9940]

Please pass on our thanks to your friend!

[@kimberly_erin]

Yes many thanks for their beautiful work!

[@kostusia]

Omg, can u give me some info on Polish makers mabe? I'm from poland I would sell my kidney to buy some :)

[@Burning_Dwarf]

@@kostusia sorry cant help you there, i know it were 3 elderly ladies from Koniaków 🤷🏼‍♀️ I mean ofcourse because Koniaków Lace is amazing but i dont have the information you seek

[@UnvisibleINK]

I'm usually only impressed with period costuming when they remember to put most of the people in outdated fashions. When you see every working class stiff in the latest styles for the time it kills the immersion. Same thing with interior design and vehicles. Seeing a 50s setting where every car is from the 50s despite the fact that most cars on the road were from the 30s and 40s makes the world feel inauthentic and more like a theme park.

[@lykander9906]

Yeah, a lot of people have hand-me-down clothes. A lot of people in a time period think the new fashion is ridiculous and absurd.

[@NotQuiteSaulsbury]

You absolute legend. The cArS. Yes.

[@bunnymcfoo8650]

My dad was a gearhead with a great love for old vehicles and this was one of the things he loved to complain about most in historical tv and movies.

[@NotQuiteSaulsbury]

@@bunnymcfoo8650 Or, like, the movie's set in 1956 and you see a '59 Bel Air 😑

[@somedragonbastard]

If everyone's in the latest fashions, there's gotta be a reason for that

[@SugarCandyMiniatures]

I'm glad that were celebrating the good ones. Now I know what to look out for and be like. Ah yeah they did it right!

[@LatinaKamilla]

*we’re

[@ninjarabbit6972]

I love how excited she got over the museum recreation dress moving on a real human being. I'm not even that into this stuff but her pure joy was infectious ^_^ Thank you Bernadette

[@Xenolinguistica]

"Authentic" lace is not that rare in Belgium and the Netherlands because it used to be a big industry and there are still people trying to keep it alive. Most of the tourist traps sell machine lace but you can also still see people practising their craft. In Bruges there is a "lace centre" which is part museum, part school, part archive/library

[@missg.5940]

Xenolinguistica l have some pieces of beautiful Belgian lace my mother brought back in the sixties after we lived in Antwerp for three years. I remember visiting beautiful Bruge and watching the ladies making it. I love those pieces.

[@isabelab6851]

Would love to see those! Travel permitting one day

[@Buttercup697]

Thank you for the heads up.

[@miafans6928]

Yes! You have to make sure you find the right shop that sells authentic lace.

[@iamamess7522]

Bernadette: inaccurate lace is one of those things that will pull you straight out of the time Me: ...yes. I always get distracted by...inaccurate lace...👀

[@sarahp6512]

ME

[@KD-nd5gu]

OMG same, There was this period drama set in the late 19th-century and they trimmed the lady's chemise with 17th-century reticella lace and I was screaming lol.

[@adiposeNarnian]

Alright, you're joking, but I have honestly seen decently patterned, good silhouette costumes overlayed with that GODAWFUL yardage lace from the 80's.

[@sylviat1976]

Don't apologize for historical swooning. It's my favorite kind of Bernadette video. Also, was no one going to tell me Emma had good menswear? Because no one told me Emma had good menswear!

[@bernadettebanner]

There is *t o p s t i t c h i n g* on that menswear. Enjoy 🤩

[@aepfeln]

@@bernadettebanner They are well made to be sure (edge-stitched by hand! raw lapel and collar edges!), but the cut of the coats is not 1815. Frock coats closed with a link were a late Victorian thing, and the armscyes are distressingly modern. I'm baffled by the attention to handwork on such anachronistic silhouettes. EDIT: I'd be delighted to see some documentation for the frock coats in 1815, though, if you happen to know of any. I enjoyed the rest of the film so much that I'd rather like it than not, but I can't get over the men's clothes.

[@christier6843]

P.S. Thank you SO MUCH for pointing out the grating conflict of having modern makeup in period films. It takes me right out of them, and that was even before I started getting interested in fashion history. No dude, your Regency era lady wouldn't have Cindy Crawford eyebrows.

[@ellieplantagenet9121]

I don't know where it came from, but when I was a little lass in the Fifties, I had a visceral loathing of yhe makeup, particularly the Baboon Butt Red lipstick, on women in Westerns. Don't know why I knew it was wrong, but I did.

[@dearyvettetn4489]

Bernadette: “I don’t like Jane Austen!” Me: 😲Gasping and calling for my smelling salts 😵

[@andreasiegel-salhoff4901]

I had a look of shock and disbelief. There might have been an exclamation of ...What?!

[@c.w.3750]

It’s okay, have you seen her books to read? Lol most of it is trash reading. Ppl like different things.

[@grandcarriage1]

Ditto

[@lisaedwards6621]

Noooooooo

[@kasianawrocka1686]

It was a shock for me...but agree on Emma, this is not the best story ( I actually really dislike it). I was hoping for a Pride and Prejudice analysis from BBC series :(. Love my Jane Austin and could not live without.

[@lilithbachelder4631]

As much as I love the movement toward historical accuracy, including corset mythbusting, I do wish their were less ire pointed toward the actors who have bemoaned the corsets that they've worn for film and stage. As an actor who has been stuffed into (NOT period) corsets for parts, it is an absolutely miserable experience to perform in an ill fitting contemporary corset, and I think that is the experience that most of these actors have. As you have pointed out, oftentimes corsets in historical dramas/films are depicted on bare skin without a chemise or any form of under layer- and that's insanely uncomfortable! That layer is there for a reason, and now as this shift happens these actors are being lambasted for having complained in addition to them having had to sit through the discomfort of an ill-fitting and not historically accurate costume in the first place. Rather than continuing to jab at the women who have worn these uncomfortable approximations of historical dress for decades, we can instead look to the future and question the directors who continue to decide to take the road of inaccuracy, not budgeting for historical costumes, and putting their actors on the chopping block for their lack of attention to detail.

[@emmimiller3677]

Well said! Though there definitely needs to be a change in the attitudes of actresses regarding the historical costumes they wear. You hear stories of actresses who wouldn't wear certain colours because they didn't flatter them, meaning costume designers then redesigned costumes to suit their desires, so they could all (especially the bigger names) be insisting on more accurate, and therefore comfortable, underwear with their costumes. These actresses, however, aren't doing that: they go into the production assuming that historical clothing hurts and then either put up with it for the sake of their art or refuse to wear the vaguely historical underpinnings and instead wear a modern bra, citing feminism. Therefore the change has to come not only from directors and costume designers but also in actresses having accurate information about what they are about to put on their body so that they understand that they shouldn't be feeling like they cannot breathe or move, and that those are signs that something is wrong with their costumes.

[@Tina06019]

Lilith - I agree! If the corsets the actresses had to wear were miserably ill-fitting & uncomfortable, why should we be so disrespectful when they complain about it?

[@tiffanytomasino335]

I feel that both Lilith and Emma have fair points. One need not be rude to make an educational point. But the education is important first and foremost. If a person knows what “should” and “should nots” they ought to be looking for, they can then make more accurate commentary. It is unfortunate that most humans who believe they “know better” and bemoan the ignorance of others tend toward condescending and irate statements. But it is just the same for people who do not have that knowledge to make bemoaning and irate statements. And such the argument is born. Even so, it’s possible to be irate at “how” someone vents their opinions rather than just the opinion itself. This leads me to the hope that people will try toward the “think first, and speak from knowledge AND compassion” rather than simply react. But that is a difficult thing to do for we (myself included) emotional creatures. That said I would think most here (if you’ll forgive my assumption) would be inclined to the ideal of compassionate education. Now I shall clamber down from this soap box, wherever did it come from 😅

[@TheModernGhost]

YES! I got so mad every time I wonder through comment sections on videos about corsets and I see people almost giving death threats to the actresses just because they complained about how a corset made them feel awful when the videos itself show that the corsets were poorly manufactured and wrongfully used... It's not their fault and they usually don't have a say on what they're wearing, movies and series are just about saving money and time and they don't care about making it historical and confortable, all they care is about how the dress will look in a front cover magazine. Can anyone feel confortable wearing a corset when you see Keira Knightley LITERALLY breathtaking dresses on Pirates of Caribbean? They just smashed her in it until it would appear that she had enough boobs to pleasure the male viewers... If you want to criticize someone at least do it properly and blame the costume designer, not the poor actress who was, indeed, dying. Not because of historical corsets but because of the lack of care of the production team with giving her a confortable outfit.

[@lilithbachelder4631]

@@emmimiller3677 That is a good point, but I also have to advocate as an actor just how pernicious the industry can be toward women- often, these are the only stories that are told when the overwhelming majority of actors who are women are incredibly accommodating, considerate, and honestly used to behaving as doormats in an industry that truly eats them alive. I also think it's important to remember that this movement is such an incredibly new one-- very few actors have had the privilege of experiencing or enjoying true historical dress, just half-assed pieces that we created by a beleaguered costuming department that was hired by someone who didn't care and didn't give them the budget to do the work that viewers are looking for now. So much of this comes down to the director, and I feel like that rarely, if ever, comes up in conversation. I think actors and costumers have been yearning for more accuracy for decades- most actors I know find that more accurate costumes help them embody the character and actively seek it out. That being said, when it comes to superstars turning down costumes because it hurts there image, I think it's important to remember that within the specific historical context where it happened. This era of accurate costuming, gritty realism, and almost no make up is incredibly new (and honestly, fairly subversive!!) Historically, many women actors who were celebrities were only valued in the context of how attractive they were, and that was how they made their living. Sure, there were people who were just high maintenance, but if people only value you when they find you attractive, and your entire livelihood is based on being an objectified sex symbol, I think it makes sense that you would want more control over your image. Not to mention that often directors (usually men) are the ones who ask for changes to make costumes more sexy, but they're completely alright with letting their actors taking the fall for their choices haha. Alright, rant over!!

[@captainjotunheim1656]

Omg thank you for mentioning the thing about "not everyone steps out of the latest fashion plate on Jan 1" thing! Like so many ppl are like "uh excuse me that lady is wearing a 1880s dress in 1893? Unheard of!" But like, most ppl still prolly wear stuff from 3-4+ years ago now says so why isnt it ok back then??

[@rbck8826]

I wear dresses that are sometimes 5 years old.

[@ragnkja]

My favourite summer dress, which I fully intend to copy when it eventually gets worn out, will be ten years old next summer.

[@mirjanbouma]

I still have and wear shirts and sweaters at least 10 years old. I rarely wear my dresses, so they also last for years.

[@SingingSealRiana]

I wear stuff my mother got when she was younger than I am now like a custom tailored leatherjacked, silken chemises and underdresses she got handed down by her mother, long skirts and adressed she feels to old for . . . Some of them might be closer to 30 years, than 3 or 5

[@morningglorymoth]

I own a hoodie from 10 years ago

[@marthabakry7353]

I learned that ruffs were pinned with straight pins from some “mud larks” here on KZbin. They scavenge in the Thames foreshore at low tide, and apparently straight pins are a frequent find. In one video a tangle of hand fashioned ball end straight pins was uncovered from the mud and it was revealed that the pins were likely from the 15th or 16th century and that they were used to pin neck ruffs. I can’t imagine the time and energy that went into pinning ruffs, let alone hand making straight pins, only to have them wind up in the Thames muck. Amazing.

[@kweejibodali3078]

wow thanks for that

[@meeeka]

Sometimes, dresses were pinned together.

[@bloochoob]

I’m waiting on my mudlark licence, you can’t dig deep if you’re not licensed. Lara Maiklem has a great book out on mudlarking finds

[@spamtwins9621]

alt title: bernadette losing her marbles over historically accurate clothing for 22 minutes straight

[@Draegane]

"adequate", historically "adequate" !!! :D

[@moonlily1]

I too have a pet peeve about the makeup in historical films: if you notice it, you're doing it wrong, except in specific cases where makeup was supposed to be noticed, like 18th century aristocrats with the white powder and paint, carmine lips and cheeks, and fake beauty marks. In the 19th century women would have only used powder and rouge, and these were not meant to be noticeable. They would not have used eyeshadow, eyeliner, or mascara, though some women would have used lampblack on their eyelashes, it would only darken, it wouldn't lengthen on thicken, some people also used burnt cloves to darken their eyebrows, but thick eyebrows weren't fashionable. Lips might have been a little bit shiny because people did use lip salves, but they wouldn't have been tinted or sparkly. In the case of rouge on the cheeks, it would always be applied in a circular shape, because people were not trying to create the look of high cheekbones, which was actually not the beauty ideal of the day, but rather full cheeks like a child.

[@hobbyhive]

One of my favourite hair/makeup failures is Keira Knightley's hair as Elizabeth Bennett in PnP, although Bingley's very 2000's gel spiked hair was rather amusing.

[@moonlily1]

@@hobbyhive Dorian Gray's boy band hair in 'Penny Dreadful' drove me nuts.

[@ElizabethJones-pv3sj]

There are a lot of tinted lip salve recipes in the 19th century, madder root is not an uncommon ingredient and it really isn't likely to help it soothe the lips, just makes the resulting salve red. It's not a strong effect so makeup artists should be aiming for something that looks like natural lips or a tinted lip gloss, not modern lipstick.

[@moonlily1]

@@ElizabethJones-pv3sj Like a sheer lip stain with a little Carmex over it, maybe? But you have to be particular about the color. You'd use carmine, madder, or beet juice, wouldn't you? You'd have variations on those shades of red, and some ladies used a coral pink sort of rouge, didn't they? Philosophy used to make a mascara that only tints lashes without lengthening or volumizing, I think it was from the supernatural line. That would be a good product to use if they still had it. The clear mascara they made in the 90s that was just the opposite, that stretched, thickened and separated without adding any color would also be great for making actresses look better while maintaining the illusion of no makeup, too bad they don't make it. There's actually an etsy store called littlebits I think that makes cosmetics based on historic recipes like Turkish rouge and ground pearl powder, a clove eyebrow tint, it would be fascinating to see a historically accurate makeup tutorial using the actual products down to the lampblack on the lashes. Smith's rosebud salve has been around since 1895, so using it on actresses in films from that time period could really help them get into the right headspace of being in a different time.

[@ElizabethJones-pv3sj]

@@moonlily1 I'm no makeup artist but i think the real deal of authentic historical products might not be up to the consistent standards a movie production needs where you need the actors to look the same for several hours of shooting the same scene. But certainly a good designer who cared about historical accuracy would show the real deal to the MUA who are experts on how to achieve different looks with industry standard products.

[@infopubs]

One of the best things in the world is to listen to an articulate expert enthusiastically geek out about their interest. Bernadette never fails to deliver.

[@wmperkins25]

She's an astute observer and an amusing character, and I relish listening to her.

[@stephanieledogar4471]

This is what KZbin was created for

[@schlieffenska]

I am fabulously in love with how passionate and excited you are talking about Gentleman Jack. I dont know that there is much more wonderful in life than listening to someone go off on something they are passionate about. 🥰🥰

[@aguzl8604]

I feel that that "the need to appeal to a modern audience" thing is underestimating the audience

[@michellechadima6169]

Yes!! This! Please stop insulting our intelligence!! For me it’s even the same with modern settings where there’s unnecessary gratuitous swearing/sex/nudity/violence. There’s plenty of that in real life, it’s completely unnecessary to make it be EVERY SCENE

[@kimberly_erin]

Completely misreading the audience!! So many movies I can’t watch without grinding my teeth. What’s even the point!!!!

[@ellisestager4349]

period dramas: *show us shiftless corsets that leave lace marks on the actresses' backs* most people: :o corsets are evil bras today: *leave marks on our backs, ribs, and e w*\ most people: it is was it is

[@carolineorlande]

YES!!! And it's exactly the same reaction when a woman choses not to wear a bra. They get scandalized, point, offend and sexualize the girl. So hypocrites!

[@Idiotsbane]

I used to be a bra fitter, at a store that specialized in larger sizes. And I will be the first to tell you that modern undergarments can cause horrific pain and marks on people, especially when they're ill-fitting! I've seen bras literally scar people. I had people cry and hug me when I got them into better bras. But honestly, some of them would have faired even better with a properly fitted corset or stays. A big problem with even good bras is the pressure they put on your shoulders, especially if you're large-chested.

[@tarynwyatt8731]

@@jackih5502 I agree that these items reduce your need for core strength and thus lead to weakness. I too prefer soft bralettes most of the time. The point here is not that better options don't exist, but that modern women don't make less painful choices on the regular, and when they do, most women look at them as sloppy or skanky, just as they did in the past. I remember being told I was a slut by another girl when I was 12 years old for not wearing a bra to school, like, can you imagine? Which definitely set me on a trend of wearing ill fitted, padded, underwired bras for the next 25 years or so until I decided to switch to bralettes. An older friend of mine also told me at the time that my boobs would fall to my knees if I didn't start wearing a bra, not true. So much suffering and my boobs are definitely not better off for it.

[@professionalcommenter]

@@Idiotsbane I wish I had a corset made specifically for me. My cup size is an L and I would pay to have one custom made for me. I'm also plus size and it causes alot of stress on my shoulders and back.

[@SharmClucas]

@@jackih5502 Is there research to support the claim that corsets are detrimental to core strength? I'm curious, because in my limited experience wearing a corset, my core would get a workout. If I slouched, the corset would press uncomfortably in spots, but standing correctly would evenly distribute the pressure and keep it comfortable. Slouching was also always possible, no matter how tightly laced it was.

[@Nquerojantarsozinho]

"dress hooks. Hand sewn dress hooks" gently puting the right hand over the heart. 💜

[@deeweaver7958]

Absolutely thrilled to see Gentleman Jack top your list. I live within walking distance of her home, Shibden Hall, where they've recently been filming the second series. Can't wait to see it!

[@HolisticLivingDownunder]

Is it just me who thinks Cathy Hay would make a brilliant Anne Lister? I had to do a double take there a few times. Thanks for showing all the good costumes though. We so often get told about the bad ones, so it’s lovely to see some that did it right. Thank you

[@lacey9685]

She did an Anne Lister cosplay at Costume College last year. It was glorious!

[@cometkatt]

@@lacey9685 She looked AMAZING and that was before i had ever heard of Gentleman Jack.. it was great fun seeing Cathy as Anne Lister & Bernadette in her Sherlock Holmes outfit as well. they made a great pair :) such fun

[@asilverfoxintasmania9940]

@@cometkatt but Cathy as Moriarty to Bernadette's Sherlock was amazing! Not down playing Anne Lister though, she did look amazing in that too!

[@cometkatt]

@@asilverfoxintasmania9940 so VERY true.. they were a joy to see.. it made my day to actually be able to say hello (tho i was embarrassingly fan girling lol) to both after watching them so often on you tube

[@asilverfoxintasmania9940]

@@cometkatt given I am in the southern hemisphere and very unlikely to be able to see them in person I am envious, but yeah I too would probably be an embarrassing fangirl too! *hugs* you aren't alone! :)

[@TW-xl2lk]

"this is time travel, basically!" Bernadette says, as if she is not already secretly a time travelling immortal who started out as a humble seamstress from the Victorian Era 🤔

[@WoodlouseFairy]

Could be 100% true

[@Huckleberry87]

4:47 Humans will pack bond with anything: Including weird hairstyles from the 1830's.

[@Huckleberry87]

Point of honesty: I got it from one of those Humans are space orcs things on Pinterest.

[@Missmori]

@@Huckleberry87 I absolutely adore reading through all of those "humans from the perspective of Aliens" things!!!! I have a folder on my computer with some of the better ones saved and am using them as inspiration for a sci-fi novel i'm working on. I have one that i desperately want to ask if you've seen but its somewhat long, and the only way i can think to ask about it would ruin the amazing punchline. *sad Laura noises*

[@MorgaineRiddlePrince]

I love humans are space orcs on pinterest. Interesting to find a fellow fan in a youtube video about the accuracy of period clothing.

[@TheWalkeringFreak]

Genuinely SO incredible to hear you praise Gentleman Jack! It is one of my favourite series and I adored the outfits in it, so it's so nice to know that they're also historically accurate. Plus, you've given me another angle from which to adore the show - the effort put into the outfits!

[@DanielleStJohn]

That was just [chef's kiss] I apparently need to brush up on my lace because I don't think I really properly thought about how different it might be from period to period.

[@katherinemorelle7115]

I think I need to brush up on it too. Maybe Bernadette could help with a video on the topic? When it comes to buying lace, I just try to get cotton lace, because I abhor the scratchy plastic stuff, but apart from that, I haven’t paid too much attention to what type of lace is appropriate for when.

[@shironerisilk]

@@katherinemorelle7115 I would love to see a video by Bernadette about different types of lace for different periods. I've learned a bit about 18th century cotton prints and it's amazing how subtle these kinds of differences can be.

[@asilverfoxintasmania9940]

it takes a bit of time to learn about lace, partly because it means time looking at lace and sometimes portraits don't portray it well, and then of course names have changed over time. All I can suggest it start, at least learning the basic names (bobbin, needle, punto in aria etc) at least for your time of interest. You will need a little bit of history in there occasionally to know how its changed and that helps with tracking names.

[@emilystates9616]

Listening to Bernadette's articulate fangirling over old clothes is always such a treat, but the energy and enthusiasm in this video gives me a new level of life. Thank you for always teaching us so much and for sharing your passion!

[@AmyLou733]

Thank you for "articulate fangirling". That's exactly what i love about her vids. I just didn't have the precise words that perfectly encapsulates it.

[@lucaalexander4894]

Honestly, as soon as Anne Lister arrived on the screen, I may have had the exact same reaction as you in the thumbnail... But also thank you, this video was really uplifting!

[@vianeyrivera8915]

Wow! I must say, your manner of presentation has left a moving impression on me. Your attention and appreciation to detail is incredible, and your professional approach to historically shut down the idea of only one beauty spectrum leaves me cheering! Your input of people "bringing the clothing to life" brings a new meaning visiting museums (new detection skill unlocked!) and I can't say how much I appreciate having organically learned something new. Thank you.

[@eragonarya225]

Another thing about the whole “historical undergarments are female oppression” argument: there’s anthropological evidence men would wear corsets, too! Not even simply for fashion, although that was a factor when incredibly small waists were in style for all people and the man in question was feeling a bit dandy-ish, but there is a paper analyzing the skeleton of a man found in England dated to the 1840s whose vertebrae have fused in a manner indicating that he wore a corset. The reason he wore a corset is speculated to be due to a tuberculosis infection, since tuberculosis can spread into the bones and cause issues with the back, shoulders, and hips. Surprise surprise, the undergarment known for providing support of varying body parts of the torso could be used by any person.

[@AthenaeusGreenwood]

Indeed, and from at least the Tudor period on, stays were expected to be worn by ladies, gentlemen and yes children as an aid to proper posture, at least amongst the upper classes and those aspiring. Mr. Brummel's rude comment that destroyed his career (and life) of "Who's your fat friend?" was doubly offensive, since everybody knew the Regent wore very tight corsetry, beyond the norm of the wasp waist silhouette for gents.

[@KatieCottingham]

👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@CosmicAlliance03]

As a trans man. This makes me happy. I can get and wear a corset and say it's historically accurate as a man 😭 I'm happy crying!

[@eragonarya225]

Mich Aguiluz I originally found the paper while doing research for a screenplay I’m writing inspired in part by the life of Dr. James Barry, I have no idea the particulars of what kind of corsetry men would wear/how one might flatten one’s chest in a medical corset and I need to do more research into that but I found it really reassuring, too!

[@lobsterspasta]

It’s even better when you realize that corsets were a fashion women enjoyed, and men made fun of them for. A lot of Men disliked the corsets at some point and there were illustrations mocking them

[@marialiyubman]

I can just picture it now: a dark movie theater, the actress pulls up her skirt, 50 lusty men and one tiny female costume designer moan in satisfaction. 😂

[@kimberly_erin]

marialiyubman 🤣🤣🤣😅

[@stargirl7646]

I just cackled louder than I intended 😂

[@meaganwoolstrum2897]

Hahahaha

[@tayet6875]

As someone who had to wear very ill-fitting stays for an afternoon I can attest to the trauma of it and fully understand when actors complain. As someone who then did research and wore well-fitting stays, I wonder why it was necessary to put the actors through that when stays can be incredibly comfortable? Is it the still prevalent notion that corsets (stays) were torture devices, or the unskilled/ mistaught dress makers/ designers that produce these uncomfortable pieces? This is all to say I understand the complaint of organ shifting, yet mourn it because that is very VERY unnecessary! And I wonder how much of it is just the actress being against corsets /stays in general.

[@mlbumller]

Will literally spend hundreds of dollars on a costume, but the failure to have a custom corset made for actress ? Makes no sense, worst is said actresse did not demand it in contract or just frickin had one made? I do understand not all could afford to, but come on...oh and no chemise? That is your underwear

[@sharkwaffle1582]

4:42-5:12 YES! You absolutely hit the nail on the head! I started noticing this within myself ever since I started watching historical fashion content and I’m so glad somebody said it. Thank you, Ms. Banner

[@emilysmith2965]

“They went really hard with the ruff game in this film” is a sentence I never imagined that I would hear, but I love it and I am here for it. Bernadette, keep being yourself. You never disappoint. 10/10 quality content.

[@giuseppemassari9970]

No one tell Bernadette about Enola Holmes, where in the books Florence Nightingale declares corsets the bane of womanhood (and a character nearly dies because she couldn't stand due to lacking any back strenght due to wearing corsets), while in the movie the main character breaks the fourth wall to say how corset is a weapon of oppression

[@bernadettebanner]

tbh I'm pretty sure that was just a deliberate ploy to distract viewers from the subsequent abomination of whatever the heck that red dress was supposed to be 🤭

[@giuseppemassari9970]

@@bernadettebanner It was so bad even the other characters commented on how bad it was.

[@katherinemorelle7115]

After seeing a short video about it, I decided to avoid watching the movie. It would just make me angry.

[@therobbersdaughter2700]

@@katherinemorelle7115 It wa a good movie though, storywise. But yeah, it really wasn't historically accurate 😅

[@susanalopez5052]

Am I the only one who thought it was the first movie to subvert the corset bashing trope?? Like it literally saved her life 🥴🥴🥴

[@elisabetfinlayson8539]

As much as my mother has tried, I also am not a fan of Jane Austen. However, I was wayyyyy to happy to watch Emma when it came out, and happily stayed quite during the film (which is an achievement as I never shut up) as my mum fangirled about the story while I fangirled about the clothing. It was stupidly boring but the clothes kept me entertained. Gentleman Jack will always be a favourite of mine and I will watch it over and over again. Now I go back to my kirtles, and my immense desire for medieval films and tv shows, whether historic or fantasy, to have colourful clothing for the peasantry or serfs. I will forever rant about that once scene in the second lord of the rings film and how the peasantry are dressed entirely wrong.

[@elisabetfinlayson8539]

Engla Hoelstad when Aragorn, Legolas, Gimli and Gandalf enter Edoras and you see the peasantry and their all wearing black and brown. I get that Théodred has just died, but oohhhhh does it make my blood boil. Especially when they did a pretty ok job with a lot of other costumes in the film. I know it’s fantasy so I kinda shrug at the elves wearing velvet, but pseudo-Saxons wearing black and brown, oh hell no!

[@horseenthusiast9903]

@@elisabetfinlayson8539 YES OMG THe way the peasantry dress in any of the kingdoms of men have bothered me since I was a wee 6 year old!! It's like they're wearing a uniform!! It's especially disappointing, since the rest of the costumes generally are very good (and when compared to the diversity of hobbit dress, the lack of diversity in human peasant dress is. A little odd?). At least give them some cheap natural yellows and reds and such...

[@SusanYeske701]

Have you seen the Brother Cadfael Mysteries?

[@meganjaime7728]

I really didn’t like the new 2020 version of Emma. I dunno maybe it’s because I like the old one and love the book 🤷🏻‍♀️...but I feel like it was crude. I did like the dresses they were beautiful but I didn’t like the how they portrayed the characters again it was crude and Jane Austen wasn’t crude. Austen was charming in her satire. I preferred the one with Gwyneth Paltrow it had that charm. 🙂

[@katherinemorelle7115]

Megan Jaime I personally liked the new Emma, but then again, I typically prefer Clueless as my favourite remake of that story.

[@stbananastein]

I got literal goosebumps when I saw the straight pins in the ruff towards the end. Wow. Bravo! Will definitely give that film a watch

[@XpunkishXduckX]

Do I know anything about historical clothing or clothing design? No. Did I watch all of this video? Yes. :)

[@lightningmcqueenstan]

Same

[@SingingSealRiana]

One has to learn somehow and start somewhere ^^

[@chippo43]

Yes. XD

[@TheReversJeans]

Hi, hello, welcome to the rabbit hole. Have you screamed about corsets on bare skin and long hair in victorian movies yet?

[@mememefinally]

Me too. Makes me appreciate costume design in period pieces even more. I hate it when they have historical character and they give them hair or costume that people would never wear in that time period

[@fiendishrabbit8259]

There is a certain joie de vivre when someone nerds out about their favorite subject. This is 20 minutes of one of the purest expressions of such a joy of life.

[@bumblehomestead]

Witchy things appearing in the background

[@bernadettebanner]

😏😏

[@MystFox1314]

I'm loving the 7 minutes of you going on and on about Gentleman Jack

[@LixiaWinter]

Period hair being perfect at all times is same thing as female character waking up in full unsmidged make up

[@EmelieWaldken]

Two of the things which pull me out of a period movie instantly

[@LeBasfondMusic]

Mention of 1830s hair *stares at every and all adaptations of Les Misérables

[@taeyeonsnose7003]

Exactly omg Cosette needs her wack ass 1830s curls

[@kirstenirwin9084]

Yes! Embrace the crazy fashions of the era! And stop dressing Cosette in black all the time like a Civil War era widow. Also, wasn't white used for mourning in France and for children?

[@taeyeonsnose7003]

@@kirstenirwin9084 in the book, before marius learns their names, he thinks of valjean as "monsieur leblanc" bc of his white hair, and cosette as "mademoiselle lanoire" bc of her black dress. so it could be a small attempt to stay faithful to the book (ymmv on how much faithfulness matters for a les mis adaptation)

[@monmothma3358]

My impression is they often give the 1830s look to the villainous women, those we are supposed to dislike lol. I don't remember if this applies to Les Mis, though, Madame Thenardier maybe?

[@eurojack44]

Amazing! I was fortunate enough to see the original 2002 staging of Twelfth Night at The Globe. I loved it so much that I went back and saw it again the next day. Mark Rylance is the greatest Olivia.

[@scribbly2983]

I saw it when they did it on Broadway and it was an absolute treat. Rylance definitely deserved that Tony. My biggest regret is that I didn't also see Richard III which they ran concurrently.

[@isabelpires927]

Mark Rylance is the greatest, full stop! :)

[@sarahw152]

Am I the only one who's dazzled by how adorable this woman is when she gets so happy and excited over the accurate parts? It shows how passionate she is towards history and fashion and everything inbetween. Her eyes practically light up like a child in a toy/sweet shop and her dimple smile is so contagious as well.

[@repellomuggletumify]

Nothing in my life has ever surprised me as much as you not liking the sheer brilliance that is Jane Austen's work. But eh, opinions differ. Still love the video. You did not disappoint!

[@TheAgeofFabulous]

I agree with you on your picks, especially Gentleman Jack...*swoon* and when I saw the Regency gowns in Emma, I died. DIED because I’m trash for Regency gowns - give me an empire waist done right and I’m yours. And I completely agree, we need to allow the viewers be fully immersed in the period so we can understand it with all of the world: the good, the bad, and the weird so that the viewer can see what was the context of that time period completely!

[@bi_cycle]

Call me a basic historian but I do love the Regency

[@lilacfantasy4]

1830's hairstyles: am i a joke to u Me: Yes. Yes you are. You look like you're a bug's antennae.

[@gusmonster59]

I think the 1830's is one of the ugliest periods for clothing, hair and hats. But I do appreciate it when it is done correctly!

[@livingdeadgirl5691]

Those hair styles look like something a pokemon or yugioh character whould have...

[@alternatetimelinegiyuu6062]

Tbh if I could wear my hair in 1830s styled hair even for a day, I would totally do it. The hairstyles look weird, yes, but they look so aesthetically pleasing imo

[@anastasialudwika]

Go for it! Like, REALLY! I tried those hairstlyles several times in my student years (though I used to show up at my university with all kind of mess on my head, including powder and all kind of flowers, so those who knew me were surprised, but not shocked at all). But it took hours to make even an average 1830s hairstyle, and it took me days to at least get into that routine. I started from cutting my front hair a little bit shorter (for buckles) and than curled those buckles before going to bed, rest of the work were for the morning of course. It was fun!

[@vonvildenschwert3045]

I actually wear men's 1830s hairstyle and everytime I go to the baber I want a cut, I show on some 1830s portrait. Some people want a cut of David Beckham, I want a cut of Liszt or Franz Schubert. Unfortunately I don't have a curly hair, just slightly wawy. So it's more difficult.

[@AppleJuiceStudios]

“I don’t like Jane Austen” /clutches pearls

[@brynnl5559]

I have an undergraduate degree in English (wrote my thesis in 13th century Norse literature), and the gasps when I said I don't care for Shakespeare or Jane Austen... you could hear a pin drop 🤣🤣

[@ashtoneva4926]

I appreciate and love your profile picture.

[@AppleJuiceStudios]

Ashton Eva I appreciate and love you! :D

[@maywenearedhel]

@@brynnl5559 me too. Thank God I'm not the only one! I had an English professor who thought she walked on water. I was always like "I appreciate the woman for what she did for female authors in a historical context, but i cannot STAND her writing style." Also, i don't really like romance novels.

[@Selene13zz]

Same here. I was an English/Theater major and *still* have a standing argument with my dear cousin who teaches her beloved Austen. bleh.

[@SamanthaRichardsonWP]

I don't think we've ever seen Bernadette so incredibly excited and happy for an entire video. So lovely to watch such a big smile and enthusiasm throughout this video 2 💖

[@sidneastrelser4207]

Actually there is a lot of rewearing of garments in the 2020 Emma adaptation! Emma's wardrobe is by no means small, but she was an extremely well off lady. Mariah Pattie has two awesome videos on her channel where she breaks down every element of Emma's wardrobe, and when/how she wears them!

[@spailpin710]

I'm late to the party here hahaha Well, as a filmmaker and former costume assistant at film sets here in Ireland, I can assure you we always have doubles for hard-to-find historically accurate (or authentic!) materials. This lace scene you're looking at definitely comprised a very small sample of authentic lace for the tight shots (closeups) and visible garment details, and a much larger sample of cheaper lace for the wide shots, slightly out of focus or just not so much in evidence. :) As always, loved your video! I am not a designer per se, but I love watching you :)