So, correcting a flub of mine: I mention off-handedly that the Fury was scrapped. This is true...if you consider that it took about fifty years for that to happen. The Fury was initially rebuilt into a Royal Scot Class number 6170 "British Legion" and served the railway for several decades. Sorry I didn't mention that!
@user-le8wr4yz6q2 жыл бұрын
Considering how the series mainly covers western vehicles I would like to offer a couple of things from the other side of the iron curtain: 1) VL 26 - an electric accumulator/contact network shunter with major reliability issues because of it's hybrid system, to the point that it was universally reffered to as "Scheiße" 2) early ChS4 models that had little in terms of protective measures against electro magnetic waves coming from their own engines, which meant that they consistently exposed their crews to EMP waves 3) K series german imported elecric engines - built like crap, so vibrations caused their onboard ignitrons to fall apart scattering nuts, bolts and mercury all over the vehicle. 4) Early VL 61s, the same problem as with the above, luckily - no casualties. 5) The teploparovoz experimental vehicles from the 1930s - hybrid diesel-steam powerplant, I just cant imagine what could go wrong with such an amazing Idea. P.S. Also the swiss electric steam engines - when your max efficiency in terms of power consumption is around 2% even such a stopgap design starts to look kinda bad.
@alan68322 жыл бұрын
@@user-le8wr4yz6q Kind of like British Rail?
@user-le8wr4yz6q2 жыл бұрын
@@alan6832 yes
@alan68322 жыл бұрын
@The Commodore P051 I wondered about that because 3 short term solutions seem obvious. One is to leave off a car or 2. Two is to add a B unit, and three is to change to lower gears, or if torque exceeds traction, add weight over the drive wheels, which could either be just ballast or something useful like a bigger engine. What is "refraining"?
@alan68322 жыл бұрын
The underpower of the Aerotrain seems to me like nothing that couldn't be fixed by adding an F,B unit; or earlier with an E,B unit.
@ethribin41882 жыл бұрын
Considering the number of incompetant or failed Diesels from British Rail, its no suprise that Diesels consistently are the bad guys in Thomas the Tank Engine.
@Xalerdane Жыл бұрын
There’s plenty of good diesels in both _The Railway Series_ and _Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends._ Both have Daisy (BR Class 101) BoCo (BR Class 28) and Mavis (BR Class 04), the books have Bear (BR Class 35) Pip & Emma (BR 43 HST) and The Works Diesel (BR Class 47), and the show had Salty (BR Class 07) and Paxton (BR Class 08).
@epiblue2 Жыл бұрын
Wait hold up tats tru
@ItsDaJax9 ай бұрын
I think it's more like their persistence that they were better than the steamies, was just them not only being full of, but also lying to themselves. 😂 "We diesels are way better than you steamies," said Diesel. The train hands are laughing and rolling their eyes as they look for fire extinguishers. "If you say so," said Emily in disbelief. "As soon as they put out my engine fire, I'll show you!"
@julianbailey27492 жыл бұрын
I love the way that the Aerotrain also has 4 wheel cars, thus giving it similar ride qualities to a Pacer.
@jefferyindorf6992 жыл бұрын
I think you just insulted the Pacer.🤣 To everyone here, my apologies. I thought that was in reference in the AMC Pacer. I now realize what the reference was to. I don't think you could insult that Pacer. Sorry.
@ItsDaJax9 ай бұрын
@@jefferyindorf699The car is fine, the car even had a racing history. The train... well... there's probably county fair roller coasters I'd rather ride.
@emilyadams32282 жыл бұрын
:09 BR had a Class 50 named Furious. I saw her once, in June 1984, on a two-week trip to the UK. When she pulled out of the station, she lived up to her name.
@VibrancySirJuke2 жыл бұрын
5:06 - No.6399 'Fury' was actually rebuilt into an LMS Royal Scot in 1935. Renumbered and renamed to No.6170 'British Legion'.
@paulj6756 Жыл бұрын
The Aerotrain's locomotive was called the LTW12 (Lightweight 1200 horsepower). It had the same power plant as the EMD SW1200. That's right! It was nothing more than a gussied up switcher.😊
@pi-sx3mb2 жыл бұрын
The Aerotrain is like that first girl in Middle School who blossomed out. It doesn't matter if it worked or if she could slap a noun and a verb together, they just both look so awesome that they can just sit there and look pretty.
@tobinrowe95582 жыл бұрын
The locomotive on the GM Aerotrain is essentially a heavily-modified, streamlined SW1200 switcher, and I'm not sure how to feel about that.
@MrKeserian2 жыл бұрын
Well that explains the lack of power.
@PiersDJackson2 жыл бұрын
A major thing to remember in the history of British Railways/British Rail... in 1923 dozens of rail companies were forcefully amalgamated into four by the Government, who again amalgamated the four into one in 1948.... on paper, in reality it took until the late 1960's for a major shake up to happen. So you had 60+ year old designs still limping on in regular use. The "Standard" classes were mostly updated versions of existing classes, mostly successful... British Railways continued construction of designs that pre-dated the first amalgamation. In General the "Western Region" (ie. the former Great Western Railway) dieselised not as diesel-electric but as diesel-hydraulic. They mass produced with less than rigorous testing, in the US a locomotive would undertake hundreds of hours and miles of testing, in the UK they'd be tested as best as possible, then rushed into production to replace absolutely clapped out steamers, and continued repairs as make do and mend.... the band-aid patch for a broken arm.
@alanrogers70902 жыл бұрын
The Aerotrain looks like they welded a car on top of the locomotive and called it good. It even had fashionable headlights. (Did the turn signals work?) Maybe a convertible next time?
@haroldwilkes66082 жыл бұрын
They were practicing for their bankruptcy.
@MrKeserian2 жыл бұрын
On the other hand, that cab would have had an /amazing/ view l.
@bertmeinders67582 жыл бұрын
The "nun's hood" was a Coffin feedwater heater. Feedwater heaters were mostly an expensive, high-maintenance way of doing what an exhaust steam injector did much more simply: adding water to the boiler without reducing steam pressure noticeably and recovering some of the latent heat of evaporation (which is surprisingly large).
@masterskrain26302 жыл бұрын
I recall reading somewhere that the coaches for the G.M. Aerotrain were based on the structure of the interstate Buses that G.M. was building at the time.
@ItsDaJax9 ай бұрын
Not too far off. It was said the cars were so light, that it was a very uncomfortable ride, one could feel every bump.
@redwolfpiping57012 жыл бұрын
Side note, the GM Aerotrain car bodies were straight up GM new style bus bodies modified and set on railroad wheels, at high speed the cars jarred very badly due to how light they were and that they used air shocks instead of springs
@high_admiral51962 жыл бұрын
not to mention that the Power units were literally switchers given streamlining and were regeared for high speeds.
@09JDCTrainMan2 жыл бұрын
Lol the "nun hood" is actually a Coffin Feedwater Heater. Other than that, I recently found this, very interesting choices.
@austint9182 жыл бұрын
There is no amount of sufficient evidence to prove Edward Thompson hated the designs of Nigel greasly when thompson took over as CMO of the lner the UK was on the brink of WWII and the LNER was in terrible shape and had no standardization of parts thompson reduced the amount of different boiler types the LNER had which was 16 down to 8 which is a major accomplishment and was overall dedicated to to improving the LNER
@austint9182 жыл бұрын
@barnabyjoy I know there's a podcast episode done by Railway Mania about Thompson and it's such a good bit of information on the type of man and CMO he was and before I listened to that and went and got my own information I was one of the foamers who thought he just hated Greaslys designs. It's like the whole "Thompson picked Great Northern first to destroy the first Greasly pacific." Claim actually it was the Railway board of the LNER that wanted Great Northern rebuilt first because it was completely worn out at the time.
@Pensyfan192 жыл бұрын
Great series. Interesting to see some of the lesser known engines being covered. I would suggest the LBSCR E2, but beware of the thousands of Thomas simps who defend the E2 only because Thomas is based on it.
@DaimosZ2 жыл бұрын
Said simps are like literal 10 year olds I like Thomas but most of the loco classes the Good Reverend choose to be the basis for Thomas characters were garbage (Thomas, Boco, Henry being a fictional failed loco design and James are all based on either terrible or underperforming loco's) The literal children in this fandom make me not want to be a fan of Thomas lol
@Kishanth.J2 жыл бұрын
I heard that Thomas was going to be based off another tank engine. One that looked similar to a E2 but with bigger side tanks, but I not sure what it was. Also from what I understand the Reverend hated Henry and wanted to get rid of him using the story of Henry’s tunnel. His design was a mistake by the illustrator.
@darkchaotix1productions3262 жыл бұрын
@@Kishanth.J it was the LNER J50/GNR J23 he was originally going to be based on.
@KenKHdmc2 жыл бұрын
Eh, the LBSCR E2 being terrible is actually exaggeration and is more like that it's a rather mediocre class
@JonBerry5552 жыл бұрын
honestly, I don't think the E2 were terrible, but they weren't great either. They were at best below average (FYI my scale is: terrible, sub-par, below average, average, above average, satisfactory, and excellent - & generally I consider only terrible and sub-par to be the worst). Most of their flaws seemed to have been average flaws rather than unusual or engine breaking.
@masterdragon26982 жыл бұрын
I think if the aero train was heavier, it would have actually had more power because it’s weight gives the wheels more traction giving the engine more pulling power. This is why large, heavy engines are the most powerful
@jonesinator472 жыл бұрын
8:11 Ahh I see you’re a man of culture It’s really a damn shame the T1 wasn’t given a chance to show its stuff
@johnclayden16702 жыл бұрын
The Thompson L1: the standard loco for stopping trains on my local line to London. We called 'em '677-ers'. I didn't know about the shaking apart - fascinating. A vid on Thompson would be interesting: his rebuild of the Gresley A1 was odd, but his B1 all but excellent. He detested the Gresley conjugated valve gear, having spent much of his time in maintenance and hence keen to use only 2 cylinders where possible.
@brucemasters34872 жыл бұрын
They were nicknamed Concrete Mixers. I used to love the clanking of their Walschaerts valve gear.
@ryancampbell41193 ай бұрын
I feel he did that to try to smear Gresleys name more than anything. Great Northern didn’t deserve to become a shity rebuild
@johnclayden16703 ай бұрын
@@ryancampbell4119 Yeah, it was a pritty shitty result of a rebuild but I don't feel that it was done as a deliberate smear. It was an attempt to avoid conjugated valve gear - although there were other options available. Stanier too was not a fan.
@Gothrailfan_Crow2 жыл бұрын
It’s good to know that there is someone else out there who is a T-1 fan. Please make a video on it do i don’t feel like i’m crazy when i call it a good train.
@trainfan-ks5hk2 жыл бұрын
They used a shunter locomotive for the Aerotrain that’s why it was underpowered
@MokkaHaii2 жыл бұрын
im pretty sure the PRR's T1's were supposedly clocked at speeds up to 140mph so the new one (5550)will probably break the record
@rogerbond22442 жыл бұрын
Being raised in the UK on City of Truro's 100 mph (possibly), 4472 Flying Scotsman's 100 mph (probably) and Mallard's 126 (almost certainly), I'd love to see the PRR T1 hit 140, with unarguable, modern measurement in place of the dynamometer cars, and realize the ambitions of its creators - historical and current. So many locomotives might have actually been the fastest, 80 years ago, and you'll still be able to argue the case for your personal choice but...what if there's a definitive, 21st century record holder?
@bertmeinders67582 жыл бұрын
It is very unlikely that a PRR T1 actually reached anything near 140mph. Any such clocking would be informal, done with very basic equipment and as realistic as the 10 second 0-60mph time claimed by an acquaintance for his unmodified Datsun 1600 (510 to Americans), as measured by a casio digital watch and the car's untested speedometer.
@JosipRadnik12 жыл бұрын
looking at the GM Aeortrain for the first time - that thing looks like an amusement park scooter. You know those things your average teenagers drives around with or against their teenage buddy to constantly bump into the one in which the teenage girls sit that he or his buddy fancy most 😂
@AJsBusVideos2 жыл бұрын
The Aerotrain was basically a SW1200 with a new shell, hence why it was underpowered
@TPMKTB2 жыл бұрын
And that it only had one powered truck, that's right only two traction motors.
@paulj6756 Жыл бұрын
I didn't see your post from last year.
@TheSaint4912 жыл бұрын
With regards to Edward Thompson, check out the rail mania podcast on him. It’s a real good peace. There are things to be said about Thompson, like how he was come during a war when staff and material were at a premium, but I agree he is over-vilified in history
@billyline35582 жыл бұрын
10:48 I believe this is the problem with the areotrain. The wheels on a train, and the rails are made of steel. Steel on steel contact has very low friction, but since trains are usually heavy, the weight allows them to create enough friction between the wheels to get moving better. But the Areotrain was really light, so it couldn't apply much pressure on the wheels, which is probably why the trains couldn't get much speed.
@AdventureswithGeneral2 жыл бұрын
How could an engine that most manufacturers make in every scale and every serious modeler has on their layout be a bad train? The PRR T-1 was a beauty. Can't wait to see her rebuild finished.
@Lamp_21552 жыл бұрын
There’s a heljan class 17....
@ryancampbell41193 ай бұрын
@@Lamp_2155and it functions like the real one
@Mariazellerbahn2 жыл бұрын
12:55 Locomotives need to be heavy for better traction. The train it hauls needs to be lighter. Further, only the front two axles were powered, the rear unpowered axle was heavier than the front two.
@stashyjon2 жыл бұрын
To be fair Thompson wasn't delt a fair hand. He was working under wartime conditions, under heavy government restrictions and with materials, labour and time in short supply. so little wonder some of his locos fell short. As for gresley, that guy is seriously over rated, for every good design he created, A3 / A4 etc, he produced some real turkeys, look at the P1 frieght locos, a huge 2-8-2 that was only really of use when pulling trains too long to be handled by any of the LNERS sidings,. His P2 looked great, but had so many issues they became a total liabilty and even chewed up the tracik they ran on. His M1s were too heavy for their own lines and his U1 garret suffocated its own crew to death!
@tomcline56312 жыл бұрын
The scarier problem with high pressure steam than the pressure is the fact that the temperature of the steam is extremely high! High pressure steam can reach temps as high as 500-600 degrees at the pressures you mentioned. So a little leak let's that highly saturated steam release to the atmosphere at stupid temps and extreme expansion rates. I bet if they ever got the fury up to it design potential,they would had problems with the cylinders blowing out and the normal venting action as the cylinders stroked would have caused erosion faster than the metallurgy of the time to keep up with.
@bertmeinders67582 жыл бұрын
I don't know which class it was, but a Type 2 Diesel class built by North British specifically for service in Scotland was so unreliable that BR had to buy some A4 steam locos back from a scrap dealer to replace them until something better became available.
@roshasensi22202 жыл бұрын
i love sir nigel "greasely" he makes the best food :)
@mikesbricks92142 жыл бұрын
This is the first video I saw on your channel. I enjoyed your research and your passion about these locomotives. As a fellow train buff I am happy to see context like this. Very nice work!
@talkingbenrailfan854711 ай бұрын
Aero train service: Bad Presvered: Actually looks good on display
@AdventureswithGeneral2 жыл бұрын
I think British Rail just produced soooo many locomotives of sooooo many designs, there is bound to be a lot of mess ups. Plus the butchers murdered so many....
@class_31clag2 жыл бұрын
Problem was in us they had already designed diesels wile running steam but UK had nothing due to a massive withdrawal of steam, so they went " let's have lots of different designs and see who the better builders were" so lots were put in but some people's designs were rubbish and some were fixable but most weren't. My list of best UK locomotive manufacturers ENGLISH ELECTRIC BRUSH SULZER CLAYTON 2021 VERSION
@blackbirdgaming8147 Жыл бұрын
The B&M T1, like many early Berkshires, also suffered from poor counterbalancing
@Lamp_21552 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think the prr t1 is unfortunate for it’s time however the same can be said for many designs that were too late or didn’t reach full potential
@JBofBrisbane Жыл бұрын
11:00 - that's actually the Rock Island's Jet Rocket sevice, which used the same loco type (EMD LWT12) hauling a TALGO set rather than the EMD-bus-design coaches ofvthe Aerotrain. It wasn't much more successful that the Aerotrain, either. One wonders if the locos had been built with SW1500 engines instead of SW12 ones...
@Nightmare_522 жыл бұрын
please make a video about the 5 worst train engineers in history, that would certainly be an interesting thing to see
@Thunderfucku2 Жыл бұрын
Also on the aero train. The passenger cars were literally buses that they put on railroad trucks. Hence the ride quality was terrible.
@the_autism_express2 жыл бұрын
5:05 The fury was actually rebuilt into a member of the rebuilt royal Scot class as no. 6170 "British legion"
@Nightmare_522 жыл бұрын
indeed it was, shame he didnt mention that when he did say the class 21 got rebuilt into class 29
@dilltdog11582 жыл бұрын
Those old NBR Type 2's were strange beasts to be sure. Sadly I never saw any during my 1960's trainspotting days.
@ZakuInATopHat2 жыл бұрын
The aerotrain looks like a Cadillac on top of a plane, bolted to the front of a train.
@DrFruikenstein7 ай бұрын
I've seen the Aerotrain at Kirkwood. What gets me is if GM wants to build a train like a bus, why not just put flanged rail wheels on a PD4104, or PD4501?
@Shays_Shellac_Shelf2 жыл бұрын
Ngl for the next list, you should add the AT&SF 3000 class (2-10-10-2 Wheel Config.) if you haven’t added it already It was a massive failure, built between 1911 and 1912
@mikesanders54332 жыл бұрын
Man I love this series. Great effort in making them and look forward to other similar stuff 🙂
@eliassmith40302 жыл бұрын
Well z
@stevenmosco202 жыл бұрын
I wouldve love to have seen an l1 locomotive be used in a fanmade thomas episode tbh imagine the ideas
@matthewpalmer20492 жыл бұрын
the fury was a prototype, experimental. And the fact it was then rebuilt into a royal scot.
@evandavies59062 жыл бұрын
I think that you are being a bit unfair to Edward Thompson. He took over a railway system in crisis, owing to World War II. A lot of his decisions that he gets criticized for, or get called acts of spite towards Gresley, were in fact necessary improvisations. He also arguably did most of the groundwork for the Peppercorn Pacific's, which were excellent locomotives.
@isitredormaroon21962 жыл бұрын
Damn it, LOCOMOTIVES
@HistoryintheDark2 жыл бұрын
Trains is just better for the algorithm, friend. It's all semantics.
@isitredormaroon21962 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryintheDark Ohhhhhhhh, well, pardon me! I had no idea
@ethribin41882 жыл бұрын
Idea. Make a list of electric only list! These lists are mainly full of diesel and some steam. Only 1 electric throughout the entire series. So why not make an only electric only list?
@GSMRFan2 жыл бұрын
The Boston and maine locomotive in your list eventually went over to the Santa Fe
@GSMRFan2 жыл бұрын
Also ATSF kept the look they fixed the rear truck issue
@thesudricmerman33182 жыл бұрын
Am probably one off the few people who thinks Thompson wasn't a bad designer considering he was thorw into a job in a middle off a world war as well as lner despite being the second biggest railway company in the UK it was the poorest and had about 190 different locomotive design with most beening out dated engine that where life expired so Thompson really had his work cutout for him design new engine when bomb are been drop from German aircraft causing magor damage and people getting killed left and right so I can cut him alot off slack for him
@williamgeorgefraser Жыл бұрын
One of the last surviving Class 21s took part in rerailing exercises after the 1968 Hither Green disaster. It ended up in Woodham Bros yard in Barry, South Wales and was eventually cut up. There was too much interest in preserving steam from the yard for anyone to be interested in it. There were also the last two NBL-built Class 41s which suffered the same fate at Barry.
@SteveWalden734 ай бұрын
Listening to these videos makes me want to go play Railroad Tycoon II.
@phil698812 жыл бұрын
Fun stuff. But the L1s were an issue, that's true enough. But it pronounced Grez-Lee, not Grease-Lee. 😉
@OgaugeTrainsplusslotCars2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Train history and Train News.Very nicely done ✔
@HistoryintheDark2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@OgaugeTrainsplusslotCars2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryintheDark Your more than welcome feel free to take the next Train over to my channel 👍
@bertmeinders67582 жыл бұрын
If the Grouping had happened a year earlier, edward Thompson would have been the first Chief Mechanical Engineer of the LNER, instead of deputy to Nigel Gresley, who was only about 5 years older than him. He deeply resented this, and devoted his time as CME to undoing as much of Gresley's work as he could. His pacifics were slightly more powerful than Gresley's, but suffered from cracked frames, poor ride and jerky cornering. His B1 class was outstanding, the equal of the Lms Black 5, SR N15 and GWR Castle; the rest of his locos were better forgotten.
@NZHazard2 жыл бұрын
I know that you might be sick of the British Rail engines, or even anything out of Britain, but for a nation where almost every company had different classes of engines for numerous jobs. I suggest looking up the G class of NZ (Garretts) where they broke switches on the section of track which they were designed to operate. They got turned into a Ab class varient which became one of the most numerous class in NZ and was the most successful.
@rhyswhiddon88822 жыл бұрын
Ayyyyy first comment, also love the content mate you deserve way more subscribers and views then you get.
@HistoryintheDark2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed
@rhyswhiddon88822 жыл бұрын
Also suggestion, maybe look at some more "world wide" locos e.g Australia.
@CaseyJonesNumber12 жыл бұрын
The Class 21s weren't strictly British Railways locomotives, in that BR didn't design or build them - they were built to a BR specification. They were designed and built by the North British Locomotive Company, which was a long-time builder of superb steam locomotives, but just not experienced at building diesel locomotives. Their diesel engines were a German design built under licence, with its metric dimensions converted to imperial measurements, and NBL were more used to heavily-built steam machinery, not prescision-built diesel engines, and this all contributed to the engines and the rest of the locomotive not being reliable. NBL going out of business (as no longer building steam locomotives and no more customers for their unreliable diesels) was the nail in the coffin for the Class 21s (and 22s).
@ttteshorts88602 жыл бұрын
What about next time you do (just a suggestion) 5 of the best steam engines ever made!
@Bustermemes-x5p4 күн бұрын
The talgo thing wasn’t bad they still do the talgo sets on Amtrak I love them
@jadebullet38842 жыл бұрын
Nah, the PRR T-1 belongs on the list 100%. Cool locomotive, but man the later built ones were terrible with wheelslip. When departing Harrisburg station their train would routinely be shoved by a K-4 to get it started because the drivers slipped like crazy. The only duplex that didn't have this issue was the Q2.
@sortascouse32 жыл бұрын
the thing about Edward Thompson hating Gresley is a load of bs, here's a good video debunking that: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d6S8Z3SNarmmZpo
@aarondivel17522 жыл бұрын
This is the first I've seen of you. Nice well researched video. I don't know if you've covered them yet but if you make more like this, i think as a fan of them myself, the baldwin centipedes would go well in one of these lists.
@NYCS19339Ай бұрын
Centipedes were not good for helper service.
@teototh93232 жыл бұрын
The a aerotrains top looks like hudson hornet from cars
@CommodoreFloopjack782 жыл бұрын
"They had derailments often enough to be annoying..." Oh, ya don't say? Could be a wee bit of a hiccup, I suppose.
@liquefactionist Жыл бұрын
The class 21 looks like the nose was cut off.
@sophiaevans99082 жыл бұрын
The Aerotrain is straight out of the Fallout games
@mityace2 жыл бұрын
Plus, the Aerotrain had the same problem that the British one in the first video did. The passenger cars were BUS CHASSISES! And, with many railroads of the time deferring maintenance, the ride was, very rough,
@leohale64496 ай бұрын
Looks like they placed the roof of a 55 Chevy on the top of the train engine. Looks like something from the Fallout series.
@Lamp_21552 жыл бұрын
I think with Thompson I’m mixed While I do think that he’s overhated (there are facts that make me skeptical such as the timing he rebuilt Great Northern suggests it was a regular maintenance and he didn’t rebuild it purely by choice) I do think he didn’t appreciate how much some of Gresley’s stuff mattered
@HistoryintheDark2 жыл бұрын
He was definitely super jealous of Gresley's success and legacy. It's a shame he was so absorbed by that because when Thompson focused on an original design of his own he really was a perfectly capable engineer.
@ordinaldragoon2 жыл бұрын
While I can agree Thompson was overshadowed by Gresley’s larger influence, he never outright hated Gresley and his designs. The two of them had different opinions on certain design practices. Thompson’s main goal was standardisation, something Gresley didn’t really follow and had a preference for regular layouts of valve gear rather than Gresley’s conjugated motion which the two clashed on. Thompson had the right idea, but his designs were rather flawed unfortunately. That being said, Peppercorn’s designs, while more Gresley themed, used the same elements as Thompson’s designs such as the divided drive valve gear and were an overall improvement of Thompson’s rebuilds. Thompson wasn’t a bad man, he was just doing his job which he got stuck with during war time. Since there wasn’t many new materials for building new locomotives, Thompson had to rebuild older ones.
@emmalineruiz19602 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryintheDark Is there any evidence that affirms Thompson's jealousy. Any argument with Gresley was down to the valve gear of Gresley's patent. While locomotives with such valve gear could run well provided they are maintained properly WWII exposed what happens when they're not, and Thompson was acting on recommendations of those who did the inspections.
@class_31clag2 жыл бұрын
Thompson was just there to destroy sir Nigels locomotive and turn them from efficient to usless
@jadenbishop33882 жыл бұрын
This is the 10th locomotive from British rail on these lists
@hurricanefury4392 жыл бұрын
i think the aerotrain was a clear case of style over substance it was drop dead gorgeous but also underpowered and seriously flawed maybe if they had based the locomotive on a more powerful engine and fixed the suspension it could have been something really great but sadly that never happened
@haroldwilkes66082 жыл бұрын
At least the Fury wasn't a serial killer. BTW British Rail was state owned...is there any surprise that it failed? Governments can screw up a nocturnal emission.
@railroadhistoryarchives2 жыл бұрын
Do a best trains series
@brycehill66782 жыл бұрын
I'm glad he took into consideration my comment about the aerotrain lol
@amtrak2026 Жыл бұрын
Yo forgot to mention the fury ran at 1,150 PSI!
@BigNate54042 жыл бұрын
Fury actually was rebuilt into a standard 4-6-0, and was retired in the 50s
@railmastergaming2 жыл бұрын
i got to see an areo train but it was in St. Louis Missouri
@rocketsnhotrods90222 жыл бұрын
I think the gm arow train looks like a 57 chevy
@safeguardprime59142 жыл бұрын
I am following you now because of this series about trains because it's funny and awesome
@839Unipicker2 жыл бұрын
That's a Coffin feedwater heater on the front of the B&M berkshire that looks like a cobra hood.
@JoeK253012 жыл бұрын
The ‘Fury’ was never scrapped straight away, Fury was rebuilt to a Jubilee Class.
@NBRailfan2 жыл бұрын
Idea for the next worst trains ever: The Canadian Pacific R1 0-6-6-0
@jamesbraithwaite4782 жыл бұрын
Did GM weld the top of a Chevy Bel Air onto the front power car of the aero train?
@gabetrain88342 жыл бұрын
Here’s a suggestion for you What if you did “5 best class of locomotives ever”
@thesteelworksdog88332 жыл бұрын
thanks my lad, I can make more papercraft locomotives
@BocoProductions1892 жыл бұрын
make the lbsc E2 in your next 5 worst trains because in Thomas the tank engine the e2 was good but irl it was horrible
@pkat Жыл бұрын
HOW COULD YOU MISS TALKING ABOUT THE WHEEL ARRANGEMENET OF THE AEROTRAIN??? The Aerotrain was a B-1 arrangement, two powered axle truck in the front and one unpowered axle in the rear. It had a 1,200 hp engine so that should have been enough power, but only half of the locomotive was pulling the train
@charleshax2 жыл бұрын
Reading T1 best T1
@lonewolf_railfan57712 жыл бұрын
Nice video, I have a B&M t1 bell, off of locomotive 4006
@MrKeserian2 жыл бұрын
Why does it feel like the Brits have a bad time building and designing diesel prime movers. So, here's my question, was this just a railroad thing? Or was this endemic to the rest of the economy?
@grahamariss21112 жыл бұрын
Class 21 called a political controversy in the UK, when the Daily Telegraph revealed that BR was buying these new locomotives with taxpayers money only to move them straight into storage because they were so useless, so something had to be done, hence the Class 29, even though BR had a surplus of medium sized diesels due the collapse in packed freight traffic.
@liquefactionist Жыл бұрын
Please make the Edward video!
@kommandantgalileo2 жыл бұрын
can't wait for Part 5
@jancraft35392 жыл бұрын
normal steam locomotives use high pressure steam the fury used very high pressure steam ._.
@jancraft35392 жыл бұрын
and it wasnt scrap it was rebuilt with a new boiler