5 MORE of the WORST TRAINS EVER PART 5 🚂 History in the Dark 🚂

[@Dat-Mudkip]

Funny thing about the A55: it was literally built to give Parliament the middle finger. The "Decapod", as it was called, was built because Parliament wanted to build what would have been effectively a rival railway that made use of electric engines, the main reasoning being that electric engines are known for very good acceleration. Decapod was designed to show that steam traction could do just as good of a job. It was designed with the goal to have it pull a 320 (short) ton train up to 30 miles an hour in just 30 seconds, which is 1.46 ft. per second. As you said, this engine did the job splendidly - it was noted that it was able to get a train of eighteen coaches weighting in at 335 tons to accelerate at 1.4 ft. per second, despite strong winds blowing in a direction that did not favor the engine.

[@joshuabenjamin2484]

Actually there’s a TTTE counterpart to the A55, Hurricane. Although he his more of a 0-6-4 configuration than the A55.

[@TotoDG]

To be fair, even the Reverend Awdry himself wasn't too fond of Thomas as an E2. Originally, he envisioned Thomas as an LNER J50 (based off of a toy he made out of a broomstick). However, the illustrator of the second Railway Series book, Reginald Payne, chose to make Thomas an E2 as a reflection of his Southern English roots. Awdry tentatively let the design stick, but the subsequent illustrators made changes as the books went on (for example, giving Thomas a flat running board as opposed to the dip in the front).

[@TheTTTEFan]

Glad He Wasn’t A J50.

[@Steamteamrailworks88]

@@TheTTTEFan personally, I think Thomas would better if he was based on an LMS Jinty size wise

[@irishengine9166]

It's strange how a character from a very successful series is based on something so underwhelming in real life, I grew up with the show and as nostalgic for it as I am I swear I will explode if I hear someone defend the E2's one more time.

[@brandonbaggaley2317]

In my headcanon, unlike the other members of his class, Thomas was modified once the NWR purchased him to fix the issues the class had. His boiler was replaced to not use up water as quick, his pistons were taken from the E3 class (or in terms of in Thomas and Friends headcanon, the E3 was designed based on Thomas’ modifications), and since the NWR’s sidings weren’t as tight as those in South Hampton, Thomas’ wheelbase issue wasn’t a problem at least up until Percy turned up. The whole turbo jet engine powered trains section reminded me of the episode where Thomas rocketed around Sodor due to a jet engine.

[@MilesModelWorks]

@@brandonbaggaley2317 that's just like my headcanon

[@Nightmare_52]

I think the reason Thomas was a success is because he is a shrunk down version of the E2 so he doesn't consume as much coal and can run for longer distances, meanwhile the real world E2 never got a chance because of their small bunker and not really being put in their right elements because for a tank engine they were quite powerful

[@Shunteration]

Well, that and the fact that the boilers were anemic, second-time hand me downs from two, previous, increasingly mediocre tank engine classes...

[@Gojiller202]

I think Thomas is a modified e2 so that’s why he is so successful

[@EricTheUsefulEngineNr11]

Thomas succsesful wilbert awdry didnt like thomas bc he was and E2 and His wishes was him to be an j11 S-o he shrunk Down thomas to be like a j11

[@xprojectsa3627]

@@EricTheUsefulEngineNr11 you realize a J11 is a tender engine not a tank engine right. I think you mean a J50

[@kevwebb2637]

Actually Thomas was originally meant to based off the J50.

[@martinevans7090]

2:17 I drive past Rev. Awdrey's birthplace (the Old Vicarage in Ampfield, Hampshire) every day on my to work - the current owners have recently installed a new house name sign, and it has a little Thomas on it! How cool is that?

[@NBRailfan]

History in the dark when BR is in a list: “WHY CAN’T YOU ACT NORMAL” History in the dark now: *questions life choices*

[@godzillahomer]

The funny thing... There's more. BR Class 41 for example. A class of 5 hydraulic diesels that were forced upon the western region of BR. They were outdated from the very start, add in the fact that their designer were unfamiliar with diesel locomotives and...

[@saltbombcreations8336]

They were scrapped?

[@Danse_Macabre_125]

​@@godzillahomerThe Class 19 could also be a fun addition (essentially a converted MK3 DVT able to move under its own power)

[@ItsDaJax]

BR: *broken diesel engine noises and giant cough of soot*

[@AutismTakesOn]

You know, you mentioned the jet-powered railcars, and that made me think about Union Pacific's GTELs. They weren't complete failures, but they had a few issues. To be clear, they weren't locomotives with jet engines strapped to them, they had jet engines inside them in place of a standard diesel prime mover. Apparently, apart from guzzling fuel and making a lot of noise, there was one account of a GTEL idling under a road bridge, causing the asphalt on the road above to actually melt.

[@talonbaldwin8931]

The story as it was told to me, the engine spalled through the concrete, melted the asphalt, effectively burning a hole through the overpass.

[@JamesSmithStudios]

I've only just stumbled across your channel today, as of typing this, and I can say that I find your videos very entertaining! I can tell that you don't necessarily script from the way you narrate but this makes for a much more interesting and enjoyable listening experience. I have already watched a large majority of videos so you've definitely earned yourself a sub! Keep up the wonderful content! By the way, If you are going to keep continuing this series and if you're taking suggestions, then may I recommend the Caledonian 956 Class as a 'Worst Ever', mainly because of their appalling ability to generate steam amongst a handful of other notable issues that plagued them in their short working lives.

[@awesomealbertt1150]

4:37 this one is a Thomas character too! It’s Hurricane from Journey Beyond Sodor.

[@brandonbaggaley2317]

About the E2. They have a bunker that can hold more coal than the jinties. The problem concerning the coal and water issues pertain to the boiler being the same one as from the I1 and I2 classes.

[@tgeiii3554]

Reason why the E2’s were kept around for so long was because the Southern Railway was in need for engine, and they couldn’t really make any, so the kept em on for so long.

[@Dat-Mudkip]

The E2s fall under the category a lot of people don't talk about: they weren't the best, they weren't the worst, but at the end of the day they had enough flexibility and power to get jobs done. They weren't good enough to promote more of the class being built, but they weren't so bad that they were deemed worthy of scrap. As for how Thomas got along so well, here's my personal headcannon: Thomas was an E2X, an experimental engine. In an attempt to get a class of E2 that could navigate as much of the yards as possible, he was built as a scaled down E2. The results were less then desired; he could navigate more parts of the yard, sure, but it wasn't enough to justify additional modifications to the rest of the fleet. (You'll notice IRL pictures of an E2 show they are about as tall as an A1 Gresley, which is more or less Gordon's basis; anyone who's seen the books will be quick to note that Thomas is nowhere near as tall as Gordon.) When he got to Sodor, he was given some modifications to help make him more viable; this primarily consisted of giving him a larger bunker so he could go longer between refills while shunting.

[@chrisinnes2128]

Think that was the problem with the E2s they could do anything just not very well

[@bearsharken2824]

As far as I understand, the reason Garatt-type locomotives never caught on was because loading gauges in the US were much bigger, so the mallet-type locomotives were strong enough to pull trains, and by the time that the trains got heavy enough to consider moving to Garatts, Multiple Unit Operation for diesel locomotives came along and made steam traction largely irrelevant for use hauling heavy trains.

[@masterdragon2698]

I like how he gets angrier and angrier with every entry and every video

[@younubs-1266]

I think the true issue for the E2's were the boilers and not the fuel compacity. The E2's had a coal capacity of 2.5 Tons. The LMS Jinty, which was a very versatile tank engine, had a coal capacity of 2.29 Tons so it's not the bunkers and their water supply was greater then a GWR 14xx which was primarily used on branch lines so it's some food for thought, so the main problem with the E2 was their sucky boilers that should of been replaced with a better design. Also, to answer the question why the early BR diesels were bad because they were suppose to be a bunch of prototypes for their Modernization Plan, which allowed British Railway to pick the best diesels later on in the 60s resulting in alot of shitty designs in the the fifties, but that wasn't even the only reason. Another reason that british rail ordered so many faulty diesel, was to keep the multiple workshops and workmen that built these a float since the war world wrecked the economy. So British Railway was kind of forced to order diesels from workshops that had no experience in building them. I hope my explanation helped clear up why so many diesel designs by BR was shitty. Sorry for the long comment just love trains.

[@Xalerdane]

Amusingly, Thomas looks more like a Jinty than he does an E2.

[@xavierluthenumberblocksfan2424]

@@Xalerdane He really does. The Jinty even has the front splasher which the e2's don't have.

[@MercenaryPen]

with regards to the E2 remaining in service for as long as it did- my understanding is that this was mostly due to the Southern Railway (which inherited the class from the LBSCR) not wanting to spend money on shunting locomotives or freight locomotives in general, preferring to spend on express passenger locomotives and electric multiple units, requiring many of their pre-grouping designs to keep working into their old age, regardless of how effective they were

[@theq4602]

Always wondered as a kid how thomas got around sodor with so little coal, now I know it was actually an issue for his real life counterpart.

[@multifan75]

Well, he also managed to travel around the world with so little coal too.

[@s.p.d.magentaranger1822]

​@@multifan75 We don't talk about BWBA, no, no, no...

[@multifan75]

@@s.p.d.magentaranger1822 Too late. Already said it

[@urushira]

I'm not a rail fan, but i am a train fan and a history freak as well.. I'm loving this seriess of yours and I do hope you never stop making it..

[@oiergarcia7533]

Fun fact:In Spain many garrats were used, with the only diference beign that some were bigger than others; so in order to distinguise then something was maded, the bigger ones would still be called garrat engines, BUT, the smaller ones would be renamed to "garrafetas", effectivly making them entirely diferent engines

[@haroldwilkes6608]

Calling a fart flatulence doesn't make it sound like a canary.

[@ClarissaPacker]

Just noticed that British rail logo looks like the Lion is sticking it's tongue out screaming in pain as that wheel turns against it's Willy

[@r.srailfilms2559]

The class 20 (a 1960s loco that actually worked) looking at its surroundings of class 15s,16s,17s,28s,74s

[@robertwilloughby8050]

Oh the 20's were good.... but you needed to forget about the traction motors, the bogies (they needed to have holes drilled into the bogie beams to avoid stress cracks!) and the speedometer (used to run high - it was a great 20 that showed it's top speed on the speedometer and actually reach it!). TBTF, compared to the 15's, 16's, and 17's, they were rather good - but not perfect.

[@FoxtrotYouniform]

That front shield on the American turbot train at 16:45 makes it look like a knock off Ironman toy

[@YourAverageRailwayFan]

I think that the reason why British railways have so many bad Diesel engines because they scraped there steam engines WAY to quick so all the locomotive manufacturers were having to produce lots of diesels without really testing them or even not being able to be finished in some cases and that’s why like the class 37s are good because they were built in the early days of diesels so they were more complete, finalized, and more reliable.

[@LMS5935]

I disagree and agree half of the time the diesel engines were bad because they were rushed The other half was British railways losing money in the didn’t have the time to repair it.

[@graphtonix6607]

I love the LB&SCR E2 Class 060 steam locomotives and I really really love drawing them as well. Lol!!!!!

[@phoenixprime24]

The Actual problem with the E2 is not the coal bunker being too small but the boiler they had a habit of throwing molten coal out the chimney. Thomas most likely has been re-boiled so that he doesn’t have problems with throwing coal out of his chimney. A Video by Nictrain 123 shows how to fix the E2.

[@Zombiehunter2_0]

1:25 Poor Thomas was so sad he nearly cried.

[@LMS5935]

I love how Britain has the most famous railways but has some of the worst locomotives

[@BlackNovember_94]

I really like the design of the A55 I found it when watching a Thomas movie a month ago it really sucks it was rebuilt & scrapped.

[@s.p.d.magentaranger1822]

Was it Journey Beyond Sodor? I believe Hurricane was an A55.

[@BlackNovember_94]

@@s.p.d.magentaranger1822 yes that’s right

[@ZeldaTheSwordsman]

The E2s had potential. It's my understanding that the coal rails and extended tanks did a fair bit to balance their consumption issues, and they may have been able to iron out the oscillation and other remaining problems with time. But any chance of that happening got screwed by grouping (a lot of the Brighton's engines were screwed by grouping one way or another, frankly - the Terriers were among the few to not be). The Southern Railway wound up with a glut of engines that could fill the roles the E2s were made for, so they had little interest in trying to correct their problems between some half-hearted efforts like the condenser pipes (which didn't exactly work out as planned).

[@flyingturtle4313]

10:24 think they were popular in Africa and Asia because of it's large water capacity, given how hot it gets there they prolly would get through alot more water there compared to Europe or NA, to produce the same amount of steam power

[@BrokenIET]

BR probably shows up a lot because most of their designs were experimental, as previously there were only about 2 mainline diesel trains before BR came into existence and a few diesel shunters

[@chrishartley1210]

Additionally, the builders of these locos, while they had great experience with very successful steam engines, had almost no experience with diesels. The 10800 and subsequent class 15, 16 and 17 were type 1 locos from their respective builders, the class 21 and 22 were type 2 locos. Added to that, the maintenance depots had little experience with diesels and also did not like them so I wonder how much of the maintenance was poorly done, whether by accident or design!

[@russellgxy2905]

I think the main reason the Garratts never caught on in the states was relative size. Garratts tend to be used only to increase power in areas that can’t upgrade the infrastructure, hence why the weight is split into two parts. I’m guessing that’s the reason why Garratts were used in Britain but they never tried Mallets. Besides, the garratts are technically tank engines, which themselves are extremely rare (relatively) in the US. The only place that really used tank engines were as shop switchers and industrial lines, and since garratts were meant to increase power, they wouldn’t be much use there. I have thought of a sort of Cab-Forward Garratt for a fictional universe that modifies some of the aspects of the Garratt design to make it more suitable for American use, but they end up getting replaced by Mallets and “Simple” Articulated later on

[@andrewyoung749]

the point of a garrett is to have 1 powerful loco that can traverse bends. the usa just doesnt have all that many places that that power vs usability is required. there werent many used in the uk tbh

[@mikesanders5433]

Man I absolutely love your channel and this series. Keep up the great work 🙂 Also I do have a proper chuckle when you bring up BR classes. 😂 There was that period of time where the BR was phasing out steam they frankly got as many misses as hits more during that modernisation era

[@johnnydoe7616]

You did Thomas dirty.. 😂😜

[@Barracudo11109]

It sucks knowing that a lot of the e2s problems could have been easily fixed but southern railways was too focused on their other stuff

[@Barracudo11109]

@barnabyjoy uh I don’t think you understand what I meant kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnPHf6yBg9-FiLc

[@Barracudo11109]

Yeah I get it’s business but I was just saying

[@Barracudo11109]

@barnabyjoy you don’t need to be so rude about it But fair I think it would be more of a sub class than a original e2

[@Barracudo11109]

@barnabyjoy haha yeah It would be interesting to see how/if it is possible to build a tank engine with tv Thomas’s proportions

[@Barracudo11109]

@barnabyjoy that’s actually happened irl at Strasburg with their attempt at a Thomas replica

[@metropod]

The one thing about that 0-10-0 tank is it was trying to fight back against a proposed underground line.

[@Transportationspotting]

The A55 (also known as the Decapod) was built by the LNER for use out of Liverpool Street as Liverpool Street used multiple locomotives (One to haul the train in, another to pull out) for turnaround. It was built for competition with a proposed extension of the Central London Railway (Modern day Central Line) who planned to extend, duplicating the LNER suburban lines so removing a lot of the LNER passenger revenue.

[@the_autism_express]

In terms of the LBSCR E2, they also had a few other faults like the cylinder to wheel ratio and the brakes activating too sharply Nictrain123 has actually made a video trying to fix the E2s issues: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnPHf6yBg9-FiLc

[@TallboyDave]

A true point; supposedly the E2's also had boilers that were coal hogs- in truth, they had a coal capacity comparable to the LMS Jinty's.

[@the_autism_express]

Honestly, the boiler of the E2 is the one thing I hate about the class The boiler come from the only steam locomotive I despise (the LBSCR I2 class 4-4-2T) because their boilers, for some reason, were used on the E2

[@multifan75]

The LBSC should’ve rebuilt the E2’s to improve their performance more that way they would be better in service. In other words, they should’ve been been built smaller from the get-go in my opinion

[@fanofeverything30465]

​@@the_autism_express Why do you hate 4-4-2s

[@fanofeverything30465]

​@@multifan75 Should have been more like Thomas

[@Great_Liners]

The GER class A55 is actually hurricane (that engine from journey beyond sodor)

[@jamesbraithwaite478]

Garrett's were still used in South Africa until around 2010.

[@andrewyoung749]

they were withdrawn in the 1990s. but zimbabwe kept a fleet into the 2000s. zim had to reintro them on th ebulawayo-vic falls sleeper in about 2005 for a few months due to oil shortages. they still have 1 that shunts bulawayo yard daily and is used for special trains. wankie colliery used a garratt until 2018, it was on lease from NRZ

[@lysander.o.c.3580]

Hey, found your content and I love it. It's pretty great.

[@CommodoreFloopjack78]

I want a friggin' jet-powered locomotive, dammit. That sounds like a ton of fun right there.

[@s.p.d.magentaranger1822]

("Thomas and the Jet Engine" flashbacks)

[@CommodoreFloopjack78]

@@s.p.d.magentaranger1822 😆👍

[@alejandrocandelario6383]

Hey big fan from Puerto Rico

[@edwardrheneas5858]

Yooo same

[@firebomb13b]

I absolutely adore the layout of the Garrett.

[@mortensen1961]

The NYC M-497. . . . when Colin Furze plays with trains. . .

[@Chango_Malo]

NYcentral's black beetle wasn't to test the train, it was to test the track. They were interested in how current track and roadbed would perform under a railcar moving at 150mph+. They never thought they would actually power a train with turbojets mounted on the roof.

[@NYCS19339]

Exactly, track test and a PR device.

[@carribob1992]

The reason why BR seem to have issues with diesels is that the BTC (British Transport Comission) were in a rush to get rid of steam. They orignally (per the 1955 modernisation plan) were going to order a small quantity of diesels from different suppliers in order to evaluate which was best. In the end, they ended up ordering large quantities of diesels of varying different designs before they were tested throughly. Not all of them were terrible (The Class 20 still being used to this day on the main lines whilst others such as Class 40, 24, 26, and 44 lasting till the 80s's.) But there were quite a few misses (Class 16, 22, 23, 28 to name but a few) and they were gone by the end of the 60s/start of the 70s due to BRs National Traction Plan of 1967 which saw non standard or smaller classes get the axe (Including classes 14 and 17)

[@pfgc-plasticoferroviarioge3711]

Hi, i'm a italian great fan of you. I have a question, do you take One day a video of italian train? Aniway you are a great!!

[@HistoryintheDark]

I'm sure I'll mention one eventually!

[@Mizzinno]

Have you covered the Erie Triplex? Also on the topic of North America Garrets, the Mallet design ultimately won out, I believe, due to patents and such.

[@bearsharken2824]

It might have been patents, but I think it was more a combination of a desire to use US designs on US railways, and the fact that loading gauges in the US were much larger when compared to other countries, which let locomotives be much larger, so mallets were capable of handling the heavy trains. By the time that the trains were large enough to consider Garratts, Multiple Unit Operation for diesels made steam traction irrelevant for hauling heavy trains. Apparently, the Union Pacific was considering an enormous Garratt which would have dwarfed the Big Boy, but that was never constructed.

[@safeguardprime5914]

I've never clicked so fast in my life, I'm not joking I love these vids

[@erikaitsumi3852]

All prase the Train Guy

[@diesel10rules23]

The a55 is also a Thomas character he's called hurricane and he appeared in a 2017 movie called journey beyond sodor also the only reason the e2s stuck around is there was simply nothing to replace it because

[@GOPGonzo]

The preponderance of British Rail can be explained by one factor. They were willing to try everything and anything once. In some ways this is commendable. However when you try every crazy idea some designer comes up with you will get a very few tremendous successes, and then a huge number of utter and spectacular failures.

[@Kh06918]

You should look into PRR L1 #520’s boiler explosion or the disaster of the Red Arrow Train at Bennington curve in 1947.

[@mikofox9798]

Isn’t the BR Class 22 Diesel 10’s basis? I know he’s a warship, but BOY they look the same to me.

[@olly5764]

the BR class 22 story has even more to it, and it just gets worse. NBL supplied a sister class, the class 21, which were the same machine but Diesel-electric, they were equally unreliable, and were rebuilt, with new engines and new power equipment, and classified as class 29, which were just as bad.

[@kltmilliken]

you should cover the Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway Class 28

[@Steamteamrailworks88]

I personally dislike the L&Y Class 28 because it’s too lean and tall for my liking and there WAS a drawing of a 2-6-0 version of the L&Y Class 28

[@kevinkern2149]

I think I read somewhere that the NYC Black Beetle was mostly a publicity stunt. As noted here, there are much better ways of getting rail cars to 100 mph + speeds, and the railroads knew that. PRR's veteran GG1 electrics were capable of the low end of those speeds, for example, and the Metroliners, while unreliable, were designed for 125 mph and built just a few years after the Black Beetle. The conspiracy theory is that the NYC used the PR hullabaloo around the jet train as a smoke screen to quietly discontinue arguably THE most famous train in the US, the 20th Century Limited.

[@solarflare623]

Quick add on. The A55’s were actually built to stop the construction of the London Underground by showing that steam could accelerate just as well as electric locomotives. This strategy actually worked but only for a few years.

[@genoobtlp4424]

About that A55… from what I‘ve heard, the point was to keep the tube out of their territory by convincing parliament that steamies can actually be better as commuter trains than EMUs, said purpose was completely fulfilled and thus it probably did more for the railroad than any usable engine could, therefore I don’t think it actually matters that they couldn’t use it because they already got their use by building and testing it…

[@johnclayden1670]

That's right, it was to demonstrate that steam could accelerate as an electric. Specifically, the test was to take a 300 ton train to 30 mph in 30 seconds. This it did, and the electric competitor was beaten. It was never intended to be a working proposition.

[@FoxtrotYouniform]

"A train, it doesn't really fly so well" History in the Dark, 2022

[@s.p.d.magentaranger1822]

No matter what Mattel tries to tell you.

[@kommandantgalileo]

18:45 actually, only turbojets have that fuel problem, the turbofan is insanely efficient, like thousands of specific impulse efficient.

[@rescue270]

Turbojet and turbofans are only practical in aviation applications where fuel considerations are on a completely different scale. Compared to a turbojet, a turbofan is a lot more efficient, but compared to a reciprocating engine in a ground transport mode, a turbofan is an exponential gashog.

[@kommandantgalileo]

@@rescue270 yeah, that is true, in aviation it's liters per second not per hour

[@wills_corner]

Love the Thomas fan respect!

[@lemin3975]

Atlantic Coast line R1s had some track related issues that were eventually solved

[@kevwebb2637]

Also, The Atom Bombs was the B-29. The B32 also saw use as the air carrier for the Goblin fighters

[@AlexHill1991]

I think you should do the worst Garret type train on your top 5 list Darkness the Australian Standard Garrett ASG its been banned from some state railways and was responsible for a footplate crew dying in an accident you should look into this its right up your alley

[@davidchurch4058]

The Jet RDC was exclusively an experiment to study high speed prior to the design for Metroliners. Never intended for revenue service. They were very successful for intended purpose: Data collection.

[@joshuaW5621]

Here in Ireland, Bullied made the Turf Burner which was an even worse version of Leader.

[@FoxtrotYouniform]

Im still new, still working through the backlog... has our guy done the actual _worst_ train? Like, not just crappy but _the_ worst

[@Leatherface123.]

Yay a new upload Keep it up

[@trevorthefilthyrat3742]

We have a jet powered locomotive at the Pueblo Airport museum.

[@Randomstuffs261]

when the train is British, underwater or bad ... **HE UPLOADS**

[@Christopherbellfan203]

How hasn’t the br class 28 been on one of these lists?

[@HistoryintheDark]

It has. Number 3, I believe.

[@fanofeverything30465]

​@@HistoryintheDark I thought it was number two

[@calvingreene90]

The E2 class just needed coal at all the water stops.

[@3xfaster]

I think Sir Top would have paid to modify Thomas to fix those issues to bring out his better qualities, I mean, barring the 2 Henry’s theory, he did pay to get him his new shape, so I’m sure he saw value in Thomas’ potential.

[@CC-Cobalt-1043]

To be honest that seems the case for most of the Steam and even diseil engines in the series, like how Gordon is modified for an A1 with a different slightly modified tender and slightly modified body shape, how Boco works extremely well for a class 28 while in real life that class were full of problems and didn't work well at all, and how Diseil and the other 08s in the series seem to have modified engines that allow them to travel far faster than the real 08s which were very slow in real life

[@fanofeverything30465]

​@@CC-Cobalt-1043 BoCo was given a new engine

[@divyanshshrivastava7765]

I would honestly want the jet train just to annoy people for fun

[@mansnylind-alevelcrossings6033]

Some more suggestions: DSB IC2 and IC4 NS V250

[@FM60260]

BR have had a lot of flops but there have been some really good designs that came out of the early 60s. The class 55 Deltics built by English Electric were ahead of anything from the time. The engines they used were so powerful I believe they were actually detuned slightly and didn't even have turbochargers like the Napier T18 used in ships, so if they really wanted they could have pushed way more power out of them although that would have impacted reliability. Modern locomotives that have been built for the small loading restrictions in the UK can only just produce the power that the Deltics could. The only down side was fuel consumption. As well as the fact they were designed for passenger trains and they needed to be run around the train at either end, whereas push/pull configurations that replaced them did not need that. The class 37s which were also built by English Electric in the early 60s but with their own engines of a more conventional design, have proven so reliable over the years that multiple train operating companies are still using them to this day. I don't just mean for heritage or charter use, they are also being used to haul freight even though they are pushing 60 years old. Brush traction also built a few locomotive classes during the 60s that are also in revenue earning service today, although some of these have been rebuilt over the years like the class 30/31. There are some class 47s with their original Sulzer engines that are also run by companies today, though quite a few of them were rebuilt with refurbished EMD engines and became class 57. Brush have also refurbished other locomotives over the years like some of the class 37s and are still in business today, albeit carrying out refurbishments rather than new builds.

[@chrishartley1210]

Actually, the Class 55s were running close to their maximum reliable power output. The problem was that in order to line up the cylinders half of the connecting rods had to be a split design and using the materials available at the time this was a potential weak point. Trying to extract more power would probably have resulted in repeated failure and we wouldn't be discussing how successful it was.

[@FM60260]

@@chrishartley1210 That is what I said, if they were pushed any higher it would impact their reliability.

[@bigdikboiCJ]

@@FM60260 no you do not say that you probly edit you comment coz you think you are railyard employee but you not

[@bigdikboiCJ]

@@FM60260 also, they are also none of those relyable coz there all br built dont u watch the video

[@chrisinnes2128]

Yes that's true the British Rail Standard Class 9F's probably would still have been running too

[@ordinaldragoon]

I've seen seen someone mention that if the E2's were built as 0-6-2's then the fuel issues would mostly be mitigated. Their boilers were actually the best part about them and they were slightly stronger than the LMS Jinties.

[@TheTTTEFan]

If The E2 Looked Like An E2, But Had The Fuel Capacity Of A Jinty, They Would Be The Ultimate Tank Engine.

[@ordinaldragoon]

@@TheTTTEFan Perhaps? I'm not entirely sure on the fuel capacity of a Jinty but I'm assuming that it's higher. Wonder what would happen should you stick a E2 boiler on a Jinty but have everything else on the Jinty the same?

[@davidstrawn9272]

I wish there were other 0-6-0 tank engines with extended side tanks in the UK that closely resembles Thomas that were more useful than the E2, and some were preserved (just like Edward resembling North British Railway 4-4-0 K class Glen (LNER D34) (only one preserved which I'm proud of), and LNER D40 (one preserved too), and James resembled an Irish 2-6-0 461 preserved in Railway Preservation Society of Ireland that ran from 2011 until 2018).

[@therealawgm]

Man I was in this dude’s discord and I suggested this

[@Gameboy_1992]

Fun fact i saw today a E2 tank engine (aka a thomas build typ) but it was electric (aka a steam engine as a diesel

[@thatmodellingbloke]

BRs main problem is that they were constantly ordering new diesel locos that were yet to be tested and they wanted to be rid of steam by the end of the 60s. Many employees believed that BR Standard steam locomotives could have lasted into the 80s. Also Chris Eden-Green made a great video explaining the faults of the E2 and why they lasted as long as they did kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4W4eXypm86kpsU

[@michaelmoses8745]

These are lovely trains. Innovative and engaging in mad scientist stuff.

[@stekra3159]

Can you tak abut the shortest railrodes ever?

[@dislike2092]

British Railway Diesels Job:Botched Performence Hobby:being in atleast 1-3 list in history in the dark top 5 worst

[@skoldmo762]

Turbojets sound way more than the fanjet you compared the noise to

[@erikaitsumi3852]

You should cover the time British Rail 🇬🇧 smashed a class 37 into a nuclear casket ☢

[@kltmilliken]

it was a br class 45 peak not a 37

[@erikaitsumi3852]

@@kltmilliken I was trying to remember as I typed. British Rail sure don't make it easy to remember. Everything a number. Ha ha

[@caileanshields4545]

@@kltmilliken Close, it was actually a withdrawn Class 46 (46009) that was used in that event, known as Operation Smash Hit. Video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/noXWmYOoZ7minac

[@PolishracerBL42]

This huge tank engine was also in Thomas and friends the movie the journey beyond sodor

[@kommandantgalileo]

the Class 22 is quite nice in my opinion

[@joshuaW5621]

You’ll be lucky to know that there’s a project to build a new one in the works at the moment.

[@kommandantgalileo]

@@joshuaW5621 I have never been more happy.

[@musclrcarg2090]

The Great Eastern Railway class a55 it's actually another engine from Thomas and Friends

[@sirwelcome]

The Great Eastern Railway Class A55 is the Great Eastern Railway Class A55.

[@fanofeverything30465]

​@@sirwelcome They meant it's the basis for another engine from Thomas and Friends

[@sirwelcome]

@@fanofeverything30465 why are you replying only now to a year old comment?

[@fanofeverything30465]

@@sirwelcome Cause I only just noticed it

[@bertmeinders6758]

The NZR Garratts were too lightly built for their power, in order to meet an axle load limit of 14 tons. The Chief Mechnical Engineer, Lt-Col G.S. Lynde couldn't resist a bargain, and when he found that a 6-cylinder Garratt cost much the same as a 4-cylinder one, he just had to have it. They were more powerful than needed, and their coal consumption was in proportion to this. There wasn't enough 2-way tonnage to justify their high operating cost. The 4-6-2 rebuilds were useful in the war years, and their biggest weakness seems to be poor draughting; the blastpipe, cylinder volume and funnel were not harmoniously proportioned, and they had to be thrashed to steam properly, which led to frequent mechanical failures.

[@theconceptualist8626]

That stupid lion plagues my nightmares

[@F4wk3s]

British rail never fails to disappoint

[@TheOffertonhatter]

The problem with the BR modernisation plan was that they invited several companies to produce Diesel (and to a lesser extent, electric) locomotives before coming up with a standard range which were effective and reliable. Most of the diesels in your series, such as the Class 21, 22, 29 etc were made by North British Locomotive company. They were brilliant with steam, but utterly hopeless with making diesel locos, and as such just about all were withdrawn within a few years.

[@Pensyfan19]

So, you finally covered the E2. Great video otherwise, and ignore the inevitable Thomas simps who will dislike the video because you called the E2 bad. Just ignore the E2 simps.

[@younubs-1266]

Doesn't matter now. KZbin took away the dislike button lol. But yeah, no one likes an ignorant E2 simp

[@multifan75]

As a Thomas fan, I understand that LBSC E2's weren't very successful locomotives in real life hence their flaws during revenue service. But in the TTTE universe, Thomas will always be a really useful engine to all of us. Always.

[@fanofeverything30465]

​@@multifan75 That's the most diplomatic way you could phrase it

[@multifan75]

@@fanofeverything30465 Thanks

[@fanofeverything30465]

@@multifan75 No problem 😊

[@Demonslayer20111]

Ha lol Garret has a very different meaning to me. Namely as a manufacturer of jet turbines and aircraft parts before being swallowed by the beast called Honeywell

[@joelchristensen9503]

Could wheelbases be modified? Notice Thomas ' wheelbase is more narrow. So Thomas was modified to work on the island of sodor.

[@ryan_1265]

I think you should talk about the Eire railroad triplex, it was a very bad locomotive, it fits this series.

[@laurenceskinnerton73]

The Decapod was built to stop electrification.

[@JoeK25301]

I think some E2 Locomotives went over abroad to countries like Spain and Australia.

[@zacharyuphold9258]

I'm waiting for you to talk about the Fontaine locomotives