"what could be more convincing than fed ex hurling packages at their destination as hard as possible." kudos to the person that came up with that line.
@STSWB5SG1FAN4 жыл бұрын
Only drawback is they should have used more boxes. Throw / eject four empty containers, then the two filled with your strike team. Unless the station had heat sensors so as to tell which containers weren't empty, this would have given more cover for the raiders to reach the station.
@rainick4 жыл бұрын
@@STSWB5SG1FAN You could just put heaters inside the empty ones, or whatever so they all look the same on thermal.
@slevinchannel75894 жыл бұрын
Those 'Jump out of the Water'-Spaceships were Ridiculously badly designed. The whole movie, actually, was just bad and full of Plot Holes if you count Idiotic Aliens as as Plot Hole. Which you should.
@Alpha4Sierra4 жыл бұрын
@@slevinchannel7589 I think you replied to the wrong comment mate, because your comment has no correlation to the previous comments.
@thomasb18893 жыл бұрын
@@STSWB5SG1FAN Actually they should have brought along empty pods as a distraction.
@mrmacguff1n4 жыл бұрын
Like the majority of people, I never saw Battleship *But the sight of a full broadside is a thing of glory*
@tinatpasselepoivre4 жыл бұрын
'murica
@peter.24.74 жыл бұрын
What @Johnny Dominguez says. It's Top Guns inbred younger cousin for the first half. And the first Transformers movie for the second. (not sure if that is a recommendation or not)
@drx1xym1544 жыл бұрын
The sight of a full US, '40s vintage Battleship broadside? The sound is even better, IF YOU CAN STILL HEAR AFTER!!! AMMRIGHT???? So loud you can feel it.
@Flyguy45004 жыл бұрын
Mr MacGuffin I saw it 3 times...
@philokrnotch3874 жыл бұрын
Broadside is possible. also possible to rip the whole forecastle and ancho windless right off the ship. Have you seen one? for a Disney it's good, like what The Black Hole was to them in the 70's. a new nifty idea. imo it worked for what it was.
@brokeneyes66154 жыл бұрын
“ I don’t care where you’re from, a 16 inch naval gun is still a 16 inch naval gun. Merica.” Edited by popular demand!
@DetectiveLance4 жыл бұрын
Beat me to it. Fuck your advanced technology, a big ol' gun will fuck your day.
@user-Xx0xxxxx4 жыл бұрын
the only thing better then a 16 inch naval gun is two 16 inch naval guns, or a 18 inch naval gun
@pantufeve47024 жыл бұрын
I heard, "Murica!" Love it!
@Somajsibere4 жыл бұрын
@@user-Xx0xxxxx How about a 31.5 (Schwerer Gustav)
@user-Xx0xxxxx4 жыл бұрын
@@Somajsibere one problem, i notice a distinct lack of "MURICA in the Schwerer Gustav
@jeffsuess3774 жыл бұрын
I think BSG 'The Hand of God' the attack on the Cylon Tylium mining asteroid had brilliant tactics. The multiple diversions, and the hiding of Vipers in cargo containers was bold, risky, and successful!
@VegetaLF74 жыл бұрын
For BSG I'd say it's a tie between that and the Adama Maneuver seen later in Exodus Pt 2. As with the Tylium asteroid, the assault on New Caprica has diversions with the Raptors deploying drones that give a dradis silhouette of Galactica and Pegasus, luring the Cylon defenses away from the planet long enough for Galactica to approach unimpeded and FTL jump *into* the atmosphere directly over the colony for a rapid deployment of Vipers to provide the Colonial Resistance some air cover before jumping back into space to take on the Basestars in orbit.
@stevo430684 жыл бұрын
@@VegetaLF7 Yeah, that one.
@fkerpants4 жыл бұрын
@@VegetaLF7 Both were quite clever. Each used the show's inner logic and deception on both the audience and the Cylons. Those were the types of episodes that made that show good.
@grindcorejoe66614 жыл бұрын
I agree with that!
@jon-paulfilkins78204 жыл бұрын
@@VegetaLF7 Yep, the "Dropping the bucket" maneuver certainly was televisual gold and just completely wrong footed the cylons.
@lesliewilson21224 жыл бұрын
I can't let it pass. In Ender's Game, the malleability of children was used purposefully. The entire 'Academy' was the training ground. Building their skills wasn't the most important aspect. Removing them from socialization and civilization, putting them through scenarios and allowing them to develop mentally and socially as well as their tactics and strategies without outside influence was the entire point. They didn't teach the kids at all. They just barely organized them and maintained discipline then threw them into battle over and over again until they had one that developed that won and kept winning. Then they used it without allowing him to know that he was fighting real battles. Ender figured out at the end that he was directing real human ships, giving orders to real people in the end because he was smart. Humanity did this to win regardless of anything. They did this because military, military complex, political establishments, and civilians could not do what was needed to win. The mental headspace and timing, socialization, infrastructure, bureaucracy, and specifically the depth of institutional knowledge in many areas, professions, and civilizations wouldn't allow those things to be done. An example, a bug is killing all trees. To get rid of it we need to burn everything west of the Rockies to dirt before it spreads. It might not kill all of the bugs but it might. If the bug spreads, within 20 years all trees in the world will be dead even if we come up with a bug killer that works on the bugs. What are the chances we would set fire to the entire pacific coast from Baja to Alaska, San Francisco to Salt Lake? They took some kindergartners, separated them from all outside influence, and raised them to be pyromaniacs.
@tylerdakid83943 жыл бұрын
this is one of the best breakdowns ive ever heard of enders game. i want to talk to you more because thats my favorite book ever
@bobjoebo89333 жыл бұрын
My three year old who has already almost burned down the house: Yes
@DerKiesch2 жыл бұрын
And yet the moral of the next book was: There was no big invasion force, the enemy had just realized to late that humans were intelligent and got wiped out for this. So the perceived threat was actually not there but misread by humans. And I kind of disagree that it was disorganized. They, at least to a degree, used the children as chess pieces. On example would be Marco, who was mostly used to "teach" Ender certain lessons. It was easily visible that he would not be THE commander they were looking for, but served a different purpose. The were manipulating group dynamics having certain candidates in just for the "terror" and such, to teach their students certain lessons they deemed important. Even the "unfair" organisation of battles 2v1 etc. mostly served to purpose of incresing Enders will to never give up even in the most dire situations and with unfair drills.
@KoonFox65602 жыл бұрын
i love enders game because this "black box" secret training is something i could see a government doing, based on my (limited) real military experiences. disinformation is a favorite tool of the powerful. top politicians dont often give a damn about ethics and morals when they think victory will justify them in the mobs eyes, and weve seen this in real history. look at nuking japan - ask for forgiveness rather than permission (of the people)
@santiagovisci2899 Жыл бұрын
I likes the movie but its tru that It doesnt make Justice to the book
@UGNAvalon4 жыл бұрын
What about the Siege of Atlantis from the Stargate TV series? Both sides had some decent tactics, much of which was made on-the-fly. Humans: Use an orbital defense satellite, Rig mines in space, Mount tons of AA guns on the towers, Field numerous marines on/inside the city, Use a cloaked transport to deliver a nuke, Use a transporter to deliver more nukes, Use a shield to both hold off a kamikaze wave & hide behind a self-destruct nuke, Use enemy telepathy to plant false information, Exploit enemy hyperdrive weaknesses to ambush them. Wraith: Use asteroids to blow up the mines, Use fighter-based transporters to deliver assault teams directly onto the city, Use those same transporters to remove defenders from their gun emplacements, Activating electronic countermeasures to deny enemy transporter capabilities, Orbital bombardment to deplete enemy shields, and Hacking an enemy battle cruiser to remove/subvert that asset.
@noireblack88654 жыл бұрын
Also on sg1, Sam blowing up a sun to destroy a fleet.
@legionofthedamned1574 жыл бұрын
@@noireblack8865 Sam is best women in the SGC universe
@artembentsionov4 жыл бұрын
I like when they blew up a Hive ship, the explosion of which opened a gate from Pegasus to a supergate in the Milky Way, the kawoosh of which destroyed an Ori mothership. That’s two for the price of one! It’s also the first and only time they managed to destroy an Ori mothership without Asgard plasma beams
@the113824 жыл бұрын
Nobody mentions Dakara? Using an ancient superweapon and the stargate network to annihilate every replicator in the galaxy. And once the replicators are annihilated, take every Goa'uld Vessel, brilliant. Ba'al: You are surrounded. Jaffa: Bruh.
@casbot714 жыл бұрын
Ah Thrawn, if only Space Whales had art he could've studied in advance, he'd still be alive…
@klidthelid83614 жыл бұрын
If only Disney knew how to create art, the show wouldn’t have sucked
@MrCaptnrex4 жыл бұрын
@@klidthelid8361 no you
@adventuresincrt13764 жыл бұрын
Oh Disney killed him too? Please tell me more reasons why Disney Star Wars is trash.
@GldnClaw4 жыл бұрын
@@adventuresincrt1376 Have you seen the upcoming 5 movies? Irredeemable.
@adventuresincrt13764 жыл бұрын
@@GldnClaw No I have not. But I will be looking forward to KZbinrs trashing them went it comes out. 😂
@AaronCMounts4 жыл бұрын
"Carrying out war games with the Japanese Kaiju Defense Force." --I see what you did there...well played.
@justsomeguy62403 жыл бұрын
The best quote from this video.
@michaelpfister12834 жыл бұрын
Garek: "I'm just a simple tailor, trying to make a living in these troubled times." Audience: "Riiiiiiiight......" Garek will always be one of my favorite characters from DS9. His redemption arc is one of the best things about this show.
@artembentsionov4 жыл бұрын
The book A Stitch in Time (fitting for a tailor) explores Garak’s past, from childhood to his exile. The man he thought was his father turned out to be his mother’s brother, who told Garak the truth about his paternity on his deathbed. Garak went to a prestigious school usually only meant for the kids of influential officers or officials (which, technically, he was, but no one knew it). The novel is framed against the backdrop of the ruins of Cardassia Prime as Garak works to rebuild it after the end of the Dominion War
@piotrd.48504 жыл бұрын
He's one of best written, acted characters in whole franchise.
@bobjoebo89333 жыл бұрын
Which one was true? All of them? Even the lies? Especially the lies
@casbot714 жыл бұрын
The perfect strategy would be to get a copy of the shooting script, so you have total Intelligence and situational awareness. And a very dirty tactic is to rewrite sections of the script and put it back on the desk.
@subbywan14224 жыл бұрын
Aka Jim Kirk's Kobayashi Maru test...
@amandusan48214 жыл бұрын
the Spaceballs had it, but they too incompetent to use it twice.
@DocWolph4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Batman does that A LOT.
@vorlonempire69544 жыл бұрын
Revenge is a dish best served cold ... it is very cold in space
@v3rlon4 жыл бұрын
Or watch the video. Dark Helmet: master of the Schwartz and home video, AND so damned evil he didn’t even rewind the tape.
@KillerOrca4 жыл бұрын
Preston Cole at the Battle of Psi Serpentus: LITERALLY TURNS A GAS GIANT INTO A SUN WITH NUKES
@robkemp5984 жыл бұрын
Yeah but no good visuals to use in that one
@stalwartteakettlepotato98794 жыл бұрын
The Keyes loop would also be a good choice
@UNSCPILOT4 жыл бұрын
"The life and possible death of Preston Cole" I did enjoy that short story, would love to see it animated
@TruePacifist2014 жыл бұрын
@@UNSCPILOT Or as a motion comic, which is what they did for "The Mona Lisa", "The Return" and "Headhunters". If they did it for those three, then why not the rest?
@shinku54634 жыл бұрын
Ender : Wow the graphics looks so realistic!
@grigturcescu61904 жыл бұрын
Imagine the psihological scars you'd have finding out that your orders on computer games are actually real. Quality Sci Fi is so good at puting human drama on larger canvases.
@shinku54634 жыл бұрын
@@grigturcescu6190 I popped a boner everytime lol. The reality is I avoid murdering virtual characters in video games. It's weird. I feel bad when I go out of my way to murder NPC's.
@grigturcescu61904 жыл бұрын
@@shinku5463 i feel you, me too. It's weird how people say video games promote violence and i'm like "Have you played a video game ever?" I even stop at red lights when I play GTA, i try to be as normal as i would be in real life. Video games give me the oportunity to be myself in another context, don't turn me in Hanibal Lecter.
@shinku54634 жыл бұрын
@@grigturcescu6190 I also don't hit people in GTA! The thing is the more realistic games become the more realistic our interactions will be. Soon. Robot rights.
@allthenewsordeath57724 жыл бұрын
Grig Turcescu Exactly, that’s why in Grandtheft auto I drive on the sidewalk and run down as many pedestrians as possible.
@PsyckoSama4 жыл бұрын
You know the difference between a Kardashian and a Cardassian? One are cruel, emotionless, cold blooded lizard creatures. The others are on Star Trek.
@joedd2153 жыл бұрын
So that means the only actual difference is the wooden spoon glued to their heads?
@asliceofcheese71523 жыл бұрын
One is made out of plastic Other is from star trek
@fireblade2953 жыл бұрын
So, no difference at all?
@aiosquadron3 жыл бұрын
"20 Galore class Cardasssian battleship approching sir." "We're f'ed"
@seand.g4233 жыл бұрын
@@aiosquadron no offense, and I _do_ apologize in advance, but *Galor. I'm just as pissed about Picard and Axanar as the next fan, but can we _please_ wait until Disney _proper actually_ gets the claws of the next Kathleen Kennedy into Trek before we lose sight of such things?
@dragonoidsix4 жыл бұрын
"A 16in navel gun is still a 16in navel gun. 'Murica" 10:15 Yeah. and they hurt like hell when they hit too! A full volley of SAPHE rounds out of a 16" navel gun would really ruin anyone's day. Human or Alien.
@spartan078ben4 жыл бұрын
I love that line.
@dragonoidsix4 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Griggs So do I! It’s a small nod of the head at the power of the old days. Those guns are quite powerful and definitely hurt like hell. But they are silent for now. “Speak softly and carry a big stick!” Well. Those Battleship are a great imagine of that! Silent until they bring the pain
@halcionkoenig2434 жыл бұрын
US Navy still has Cruisers with 14 inch guns.
@Zamolxes774 жыл бұрын
On Earth yes. In space, not so much. I would argue any chemical propelled ballistic round is useless in space, too slow.
@spartan078ben4 жыл бұрын
@@Zamolxes77 Yes. Unless you used magnetic coils to accelerate the round. Like in Halo.
@roguenine9LU4 жыл бұрын
Not sure how the Adama Maneuver doesn't make this list. Using drones to draw the Cylons away from the planet, jumping a Battlestar into the atmosphere of a planet, launching fighters while "falling like a rock," and then jumping back out seconds before crashing into the ground is one of the most brilliant sci fi strategies ever.
@UGNAvalon4 жыл бұрын
Spacedock’s “How to save Pegasus” vid would disagree: namely, send assault raptors instead of the Galactica.
@roguenine9LU4 жыл бұрын
I disagree with Spacedock on that point, Idon't think Assault Raptors would have a chance against the few Cylon Raiders that were still there on the planet. The Vipers are shown shooting down Raiders right before Hotdog and Red Wing take out the guard tower and shipyard gate.
@dianavespid9374 жыл бұрын
rogue nine9 they were 4 basestats...that’s hundreds and hundreds of raiders. I don’t think they would have been able to make it.
@piotrd.48504 жыл бұрын
It was badass beyond belief, but violated several things established in series universe, namely FTL reload time.
@RustBunny4 жыл бұрын
@@piotrd.4850 The second jump was like a rebound into orbit where the Cylon Basestars were. A short hop like that seems like something a Battlestar could accomplish without much effort and likely already set, or easy enough to input on the fly since they were only going from the atmosphere into orbit. Surely Galactica and Pegasus were more versatile that the bulk of the fleet, whose limitations (spool time and jump distance) probably held them back; the fleet would have had to consider the least capable of FTL capable ships when it made its jumps.
@TriMarkC4 жыл бұрын
This was one of my favorite episodes you’ve ever done! I’m a US Marine, so that might explain some of it. But, you also had guests speaking on some of their favorites, too. Well done!
@evilpigeonsify4 жыл бұрын
"Throw a hundred thousand guardsmen at that target, if that fails, throw a million, repeat until success" -Warhammer 40k
@_Muzolf4 жыл бұрын
That is a gross mischaraterisation of the Imperial Guard, any lord general who actually does that, would get a bolter round to the face from a commissar for incompetence, or find themselves with a callidus assasins blade in their back if they were someone with connections or powerful family. "Life is the emperor currency, spend it well" - while massive grievous casualties do happen, they usually happen for a good reason. The astra militarum does way more, then just throw meat into the grinder.
@mjptrapster4 жыл бұрын
No love for the Adama manoeuvre? FTL effectively a 5-mile long rust bucket 100,000km's from the surface, launch fighters and FTL jump just before it hits the ground?
@Valmarn4 жыл бұрын
For the Firefly movie, Serenity; drawing in the reavers to fight as a distraction was excellent (if not reckless) tactics for a lopsided situation.
@chouser254 жыл бұрын
Reckless is a massive understatement.If they had been wrong about the Operative already having a fleet in position (which they had no way to verify) they would have led an army of Reavers to Mr. Universe's doorstep with no way to escape them
@chouser254 жыл бұрын
Though to be fair, borderline-insane tactics was pretty much the only way they were going to outmaneuver the Operative
@chouser254 жыл бұрын
Though to be fair, borderline-insane tactics was pretty much the only way they were going to outmaneuver the Operative
@vee-03774 жыл бұрын
Hot drop o'clock
@angulion4 жыл бұрын
@@chouser25 Though to be fair, borderline-insane tactics was pretty much the only way they usually operated.. :D
@channingdeadnight4 жыл бұрын
No Ender wiggan spent the rest of his life trying to fix the mistake he made by genociding a species. That's mostly what the rest of the series is about.
@Eris1234513 жыл бұрын
It's actually not bad at all, bur the first one was by far and away the best if extremely horrifying.
@Bill237994 жыл бұрын
What about the time Captain Picard won the battle using " The Picard Manuever "? He pulled his shirt down when he stood up from his bridge chair and his confidence so unnerved his enemy they surrendered immediately.
@dannygelbart68274 жыл бұрын
Way better than that DS9 battle plan.
@isaackellogg34934 жыл бұрын
As to the official Picard Maneuver, they missed a trick. First fire phasers, *then* micro-jump. Then fire again immediately after the jump. If that's not possible, then tome your jump to bracket the time between firings, so you still get the combined shots' time-on-target. Incidentally, since micro jumps are a derivatipn of known technology, but holo-projecting a ship-sized object is impossible (or else it would *ever* have been used), I don't see why, given the choice of targets, anyone would ever have been fooled onto firing at the old image. Also, didn't Picard use this successfully against a DaiMon who already knew it? Or is this just a translation for us, who are unused to discernong between ships when warp drive is involved?
@bryanlarson16054 жыл бұрын
@@isaackellogg3493 the incident in question involved an inexperienced commander of a species where they make commerce not war. but good call exploiting a speed of light weapon and FTL to double down on the damage
@allthenewsordeath57724 жыл бұрын
darthspeaks No you’re thinking of the Second Riker maneuver, the first Riker maneuver is straddling a chair.
@piotrd.48504 жыл бұрын
@@isaackellogg3493 This is like Pughachev Kobra - works only once against oponent.
@tomb70884 жыл бұрын
The Star Trek entry had nothing anyone could remotely call a strategy or a plan. It was throw everything we can at point A and trust to luck.
@Lewd-Tenant_Isan4 жыл бұрын
Really thought that the Keyes loop would be featured in this list. A single UNSC Destroyer against two Covenant frigates and a Destroyer, and not only surviving the encounter, but WINNING it.
@carthienesdevilsadvocatenr28064 жыл бұрын
You forgot the Carrier. Which survived the battle only by fleeing, admittedly, but still contributed to the lopsided forces.
@devinpallone18404 жыл бұрын
Came to the comments to say exactly this. That one scene made me really appreciate Nylund as a writer.
@downrangecash24184 жыл бұрын
Actually, not really. Keyes himself says that as a strategy it should not have worked and he would've given anybody who proposed it a C. It relied heavily on luck, and Keyes would have been SOL if the Covenant had simply plotted an intercept course. It's not that Keyes was a bad tactician or anything, it's just that the Covenant were too incompetent to attempt a basic evasive manuever, or send their frigates on an intercept course.
@frogthetoad67734 жыл бұрын
@@downrangecash2418 Doesn't seem out of character for the Covenant. The elites we're probably too busy have to quell tantrums and petty squabbles aboard their ships.
@ergonamix99773 жыл бұрын
@@frogthetoad6773 Nah, it probably went something like this: Elite 1: "Commander! The human vessel is closing on our position." Elite 2: "So, they desire a warriors death. Very well, we shall give it to them."
@Hmmahadoa4 жыл бұрын
Excuse me Science fiction strategy and you didn’t mention anything from Battlestar Galactica!?!? The Adams Maneuver is one of the best scenes in all of science fiction, the Cargo transport smuggling fighters to get close to the Cylon Tylium factory, flat he fracking final battle between Galactica and the Cylon Fleet???? Blasphemy, only thing this is
@dankalisz32354 жыл бұрын
During the French Indian wars when the Fledgling American Navy was fighting on the Great lakes; During the Battle of Lake Huron, The Americans used a Sailing Ship at full Sail but at anchor to tack back and forth to bring broadside shots at the French Fleet. 1 American Ship destroyed the entire French fleet. They Fired the Port side then tacked and fired the starboard side then tacked again. During the Tack the side that fired reloaded and gave them another broadside of a full load each time.Whereas a few shots fired a ship can survive but not broad side after broadside...
@Vaultboy-ke2jj4 жыл бұрын
Cobambam bambam there was no American navy during the French and Indian war, it was the Royal Navy. You’re thinking of the war of 1812 between Britain and The USA
@Mc7wis74 жыл бұрын
One of my favorites, just because the movie is so fun, is Galaxy Quest. "And what you fail to realize is my ship is dragging mines!"
@aegis03024 жыл бұрын
So THE best plan trek had was to use a wall of ships and run straight into an opposing wall of ships that was 2x bigger. Then fall into the enemy trap by using fighters and Hope a few cardassian ships break formation. The only way the Fed ship, 1 ship btw, broke through was because another unplanned force, klingons, attacked. This plan would have failed if not for the klingons and plot armor. This plan sucks.
@XylaOXO4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the planned sucked but the feds were desperate, but they kinda badly explained some aspects of the battle in the video, about 200 ships broke through, the Defiant was just the first.
@XylaOXO4 жыл бұрын
@Viktor Samoja And then the Dominion using it's more advanced scanners and intelligence will force the feds back into the same situation, they knew about the fed fleet before it left for the operation.
@MonkeyJedi994 жыл бұрын
And what is it with the trend of filling the screen with tightly packed together ships so close to each other that a sneezing helmsman could take out a quarter of both sides?
@Eagle-eye-pie4 жыл бұрын
Aegis030 And lets not forget the plan failed and the mine field was destroyed. Sisco then had to rely on the whim of worm hole aliens to destroy the entire Dominion relief force in order to fulfil his objective. Fortune favours the lucky more like.
@matthutt76974 жыл бұрын
I love my DS9 but I have to agree. All plot armour.
@the_hwyman4 жыл бұрын
Babylon 5 does not get enough love on this channel. I will submit the defeat of the Blackstar, the only victorious battle during the Earth-Minbari War, as a brilliant example of battlefield strategy where the heavily damaged and disabled EAS Lexington commanded by Commander John Sheridan lured the Blackstar, flagship on the Minbari fleet, into an asteroid field mined with its three remaining two megaton nuclear warheads. Using only docking thrusters to stay out of line of sight, the Lexington drew in the Blackstar within range of one of the mined asteroids. The detonation damaged the Blackstar sent it drifting towards a second mined asteroid that finished the job. The destruction of the Blackstar earned Sheridan the nickname "Star Killer" by the Minbari.
@Eris1234513 жыл бұрын
Damn right it did, I'd quite forgotten that one and just how tough those Mimbari warships were; great but not my personal favorite.
@jacobkleinsasser56584 жыл бұрын
1 problem I had with Battleship. They REALLY underestimated the power of the guns on Mighty Mo. For one, in the war they didn't fire all the guns at once because the shockwave of one gun would knock any other round fired off course, making them highly inaccurate. They fired them one at a time. Also, those rounds didn't explode on contact. They penetrated then exploded. A single 16 in gun would have shredded the alien craft and when it exploded, lights out. No way that alien ship could stand up to even a single salvo.
@bobbyrayvictory69054 жыл бұрын
But youre discounting the sex appeal of seeing all those beautiful guns bust a nut at the same time
@chilkootsailor4924 жыл бұрын
@@bobbyrayvictory6905 lmao
@HalNordmann4 жыл бұрын
Since you are firing the guns at few hundred meter's range, you don't really care about precision, you just care about firing as much ammo as quickly as possible. Since you don't know how much armor the enemy ship has, an overkill is better than nothing.
@jacobkleinsasser56584 жыл бұрын
@@HalNordmann Incorrect. Firing as rapidly as possible was what lead to the British suffering HORRIBLE casualties at the Battle of Jutland, and as a result was not common practice later on. Also, you do care about precision because the amount of deviation caused by the shockwaves could and did knock rounds off course, and considering they fired their guns at miles away any slight deviation would mean you miss the target by a lot. Your arguments are all arguments made by naval strategist in and around ww1, and early ww2, but were completely dismissed after because they didn't measure up to reality. Jutland showed it was better to not fire as rapidly as possible. The Battle of Denmark Straight showed that accuracy was far more important than firing all guns at once.
@71frog4 жыл бұрын
"I don't care what part of the galaxy you are from... a 16' Naval gun is still a 16' Naval gun.... 'Merica." I giggled after that one, well played sir.
@zeroibis4 жыл бұрын
Yea even Space Battleship Yamato says a 46cm gun is a 46cm gun
@smoadia854 жыл бұрын
For expanse, my personal favourite tactics was the rescue of avarasala scene and the creative use of torpedoes. That blew my mind when I first saw it.
@InMaTeofDeath3 жыл бұрын
Though a much smaller strategy in scale I love the way Naomi figured out how to deal with the battle in Babylon's Ashes, party because I managed to figure out how she was going to use the information before she did. :)
@BrokenCurtain4 жыл бұрын
"He is intelligent, but not experienced. His pattern indicates two dimensional thinking."
@peter.24.74 жыл бұрын
"From Hell's heart I stab at thee. For hates sake, I spit my last breath at thee......"
@isaackellogg34934 жыл бұрын
"Sulu, activate maneuvering thrusters." "Give me more Newton, damn you!"
@raterNAZ4 жыл бұрын
Aft-torpedoes ...fire!
@vorlonempire69544 жыл бұрын
Revenge is a dish best served cold ... it's very cold in space
@BrianHeplerSasquatch4 жыл бұрын
Bah. Finally getting around to discovering the "sink" button isn't great strategy.
@GabrielBoeri4 жыл бұрын
the scene itself could be so unrealistic but the Missouri firing it's guns it's such a beautiful image
@Eris1234513 жыл бұрын
Needed far too many Magguffins for it work, not really tactics at all. I don't get why it's even included here to be honest ?
@l1a1464 жыл бұрын
"A 16 inch naval gun is still a 16 inch naval gun.... Merica". Hilarious love it
@katty46824 жыл бұрын
The DS9 one reminds me of why DS9 is not only my favorite Star Trek series, but one of my absolute favorite works of science fiction. That episode referenced is one of the rare occasions where I can say a deus ex machina solution is done well. It's not just a convenient happenstance like you see in say the new Star Wars movies, but something that was earned, based on an advantageous relationship that Sisco built over time, and was only able to convince the omnipotent beings as a result of his ethics, and ultimately at great personal cost to himself.
@leonielson71384 жыл бұрын
In defense of the United Earth of 'Ender's Game', it had been at least 1 generation since the 'Buggers' attacked, their technology was reverse engineered, and the fleet had been launched. They probably expected to find someone capable of commanding the fleet a decade or more earlier, meaning that person would have time to grow into the position, but with one candidate after another washing out (like Peter for his violence and Valentine for her compassion) by the time the fleet was in position to attack the only option was a teenager who wasn't emotionally ready to be told that his actions had real-world consequences.
@PanosSpiliadis4 жыл бұрын
Where's the Adama Manoeuver? Shame!
@noneedtoknow074 жыл бұрын
That's a more of a "look at size of that man's balls" moment than a tactical brilliance moment.
@seand.g4234 жыл бұрын
Which one?
@MonkeyJedi994 жыл бұрын
@@seand.g423 Jumping into the atmosphere over New Caprica under the enemy air cap, launching vipers, and jumping out again as the Galactica is freefalling to about ten stories from the ground.
@seand.g4234 жыл бұрын
@@MonkeyJedi99 oh, thank frak! So we're not talking about... well... y'know... _that_ one.
@Justicar3334 жыл бұрын
Ah, the battle of New Caprica. Adams plan was worthy of Thrawn that day.
@casbot714 жыл бұрын
Simply *reverse the polarity of the neutron flow* of the gravavistic stabilisers, feeding it back through their matrix manifold via a feedback loop and you've got a critical overload and self destruct. - Cause the last thing you should've done was let me stumble near all those buttons… _"I got clever, I tricked people into killing themselves"…_
@nobleman93934 жыл бұрын
"I don't understand why everything in this script must inevitably explode."
@demogorgonzola4 жыл бұрын
15:56 *Sisko:* _Fortune favors the bold!_ ( *Crew:* _..._ *cricket sound effect* ) *Sisko smiles and strokes his chin:* ...but bearded* ( *Crew smiles at ease * ) *Nog quietly to Garak:* Humans have beards on their rears? *Garak looking straight to his eyes:* YES!
@riderstrano7834 жыл бұрын
Nothing beats good old fashioned heavy artillery
@slevinchannel75894 жыл бұрын
Those 'Jump out of the Water'-Spaceships were Ridiculously badly designed. The whole movie, actually, was just bad and full of Plot Holes if you count Idiotic Aliens as as Plot Hole. Which you should.
@jamesricker39974 жыл бұрын
I see your old-fashioned artillery and raise you orbital bombardment.
@jamesricker39974 жыл бұрын
@@slevinchannel7589 if you're analyzing movie, it looks like Earth's strong magnetic field was seriously messing around with their anti-gravity drive.
@riderstrano7834 жыл бұрын
James Ricker just imagine how differently that battle would have been in space. A similarly armed space battleship would have decimated the incoming fleet
@techgamer68754 жыл бұрын
And s'om good old pilot'in
@KrK0073 жыл бұрын
Shout out to the movie Serenity, where Mal and the crew of the Firefly lure an entire horde of Reaver Ships to battle the Alliance Fleet. That was pretty epic.
@opey2dope3 жыл бұрын
For ender's game: there's a major change in the film from the original novel, that ultimately weakens the narrative considerably. In the film, Ender's training involves him being pushed, in order to make him as skillful as possible and imbue in him a focus on victory. Some discussion is made about how it is harsh, but ultimately, the position is made that the ends justify the means. Ender uses the "little doctor" device on the alien planet during the final battle, because he is driven to win. He wants to win at all costs, and sees the use of the weapon as his only path to victory. He is shocked to find that this was a real battle, and is saddened by the killing and destruction. In the novel, by contrast, Ender's training is much harsher and is deliberately abusive. Ender suffers greatly, both physically an psychologically. The adults who run his training know they are hurting him, but don't care; They want to create a tyrant. Ender, who is staggeringly brilliant, realizes he is trapped and is being abused, but sees no way out. Eventually, he decides that he will use the most destructive tactics possible, reasoning that by appearing to be a genocidal monster, the adults will see him as a threat, wash him out of the program, and find someone else. He chooses to use the "little doctor" on the alien planet itself, knowing that the "simulated" planet's population will be wiped out, along with the alien fleet and his own fleet. Ender knows that this tactic will kill simulated millions. When, in the novel, Ender is told that this was not a simulation at all, he is not just saddened, he is psychologically shattered. He realizes he has not pretended to kill millions, he has, in fact, committed genocide. A couple of final revelations are in the novel that wrap it all up. First, the "buggers" are revealed to not be a universally sentient race. Most of the aliens are mindless drones, with no consciousness of their own. If these are destroyed in droves, there is no worry at all, similar to how you aren't concerned when you cut your hair. Only their queens have individual minds of their own. Second, during the end of the first war between the humans and buggers, the queen present touched the mind of Mazer Rackham, and discovered that ALL humans are sentient, and they realize the depths of their crime. Instead of cutting down a few fingernails, easily regrown, they have cut down sentient minds by the thousands. They actually retreat from the humans, hoping that the humans would realize the mistake and forgive them. When the humans initiate the second war, the buggers understand that the humans have NOT forgiven, and realize that they will almost certainly be wiped out. When Ender comes to realize this, he makes it his mission to tell all of humanity this, and so becomes history's greatest monster, rather than humanity's savior. Ender's Game the novel is deeply tragic; Ender himself is an abused, manipulated, and betrayed boy who is made a monster without his knowledge, and even his attempts to fight back become betrayals.
@TheJosep704 жыл бұрын
I read it years ago but I remember a space battle in The Reality Dysfunction as one of the most gripping I've ever seen or read.
@starblade84504 жыл бұрын
I wish they covered the Raid on Balan from Space Battleship Yamato 2199. Or the battle of the Rainbow Cluster. Both are very cool from a tactical standpoint.
@robertdavis89694 жыл бұрын
I would have used a scene from Serenity for one of them. When Malcolm angers the Reaver fleet because he knows the Alliance is waiting for him. 1 cannon versus 2 fleets. That was genius. We're still flying.
@patrickkenyon23264 жыл бұрын
Take me out into the black. Tell them I aint comin' back.
@stephenbeyer43154 жыл бұрын
I was going to post the same if no one else had. Thanks for savin' me some time.
@antonrobins17594 жыл бұрын
life a leaf on the wind
@kostakatsoulis29224 жыл бұрын
Ok honestly, I watched battleship and frickin loved it
@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat4 жыл бұрын
In Enders game, as children they most certainly would come to understand it, that’s the point of using kids, there is no desensitizing, only becoming better at what they know to be reality
@josephjones99044 жыл бұрын
3 things stood out to me. 1. Probably one of the best videos on the channel. 2. I love the prerecorded footage of the Late British Ben. Although it was probably the longest segment of the video. 3. American Ben must have a hot date he hasn't looked this clean in a year. (I think this is justified by the fact he made a joke about his wrinkled shirt.)
@stratometal4 жыл бұрын
Um... wait is British Ben dead or something?
@josephjones99044 жыл бұрын
@@stratometal thats what I was told
@Talon11244 жыл бұрын
The funny thing about Missouri's manoeuvre is it had a real-life precedent. The ship in question was a fraction of the mass and was a submarine tender, but it did 'anchor drift', once. And bent it's sea frame.
@MotoroidARFC4 жыл бұрын
I'd figure the bow would be wrenched so bad it'd be ripped off or bent so bad Missouri would take on water.
@Talon11244 жыл бұрын
@@MotoroidARFC In the Mighty Mo's case, the anchor chain would snap before the seaframe distorted too much. There's an order of magnitude difference between the Missouri and the Akitsushima.
@MotoroidARFC4 жыл бұрын
@@Talon1124 the bow section is just thinner then the rest of the ship. Distortion of the bow could happen fractions of a second before the chain let go.
@Talon11244 жыл бұрын
@@MotoroidARFC Eh, it's a moot point, because no one in reality would be crazy enough to stupid enough to put a ship through that.
@MotoroidARFC4 жыл бұрын
@@Talon1124 yup
@stalwartteakettlepotato98794 жыл бұрын
Admiral Cole's last stand should have been on this list. I know it's a less known part of halo lore but the tactics are really good combining both halo lore and real world physics. The Keys loop would also be a good choice.
@BrooksWachtel4 жыл бұрын
One of the few Star Trek TOS episodes to engage in prolonged space combat was Balance of Terror. While a space-based remake of The Enemy Below, it was strategy based and a battle of wits and tactics between the two captains. Perhaps, being from the 60s, it was a little too vintage for this site, but it did feature a long cat and mouse combat between the two ships.
@sabertx32734 жыл бұрын
They didn't just fire five cruise missiles, but torpedoes, the deck gun, the phalanx, and the M2 Browning machine guns for some reason. In short: they fired everything.
@stratometal4 жыл бұрын
What about the kitchen sink?
@politicallyunreliable49854 жыл бұрын
@@stratometal That was being held in the Middle East awaiting deployment on an A-10.
@jeffsuess3774 жыл бұрын
To quote Nero "Fire everything!!!"
@KillerOrca4 жыл бұрын
Full alpha strike
@Battleship0094 жыл бұрын
@@politicallyunreliable4985 LOL
@Todd664 жыл бұрын
I see this channel growing A LOT! Not only good content, but very well presented. Kudos!!!
@biggles18524 жыл бұрын
my two favs: DS9 the final battle, where it's the Dominion bombing of a Cardassian city that causes the Cardassians to withdraw from the alliance and them the Dominion completely vulnerable. My other fav is in David Brin's Startide Rising where the Streaker goes into the hull of an alien ship in order to get past the blockade. Using the water of the ship to create a de facto wall behind them was just icing on the cake.
@legionnaire59664 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for giving Ender's game some love! I feel like this awesome IP gets overlooked way too often.
@kkhan87154 жыл бұрын
Despite being a semi-ridiculous show, Dr Who has one of my favorite space battles with a unique strategy. At the fall of Gallifrey seeing the many Tardises work to save the planet and destroy the Dalek fleet was amazing. The edits the fans did only made it better.
@Reepicheep-14 жыл бұрын
"Seems a little overkill." Do you want it gone, or to have a chance to fight back?
@marz24674 жыл бұрын
Operation Return? Wut? It was an absolute Bloodbath! The fall of DS9 was better, as it was a holding action and distraction all while sealing the wormhole, as the Federation fleet crosses the border and smashes the Dominion/Cardasian Shipyards.
@JadeSun73 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment.
@abstractedaway3 жыл бұрын
It was a bloodbath, but it ended with the destruction of the fleet sent to stop the Allies, the complete disappearance of the reinforcements, and most importantly - rendered the Dominion unable to fight. It was a game of chess, and nearly all of the pieces were sacrificed, but they got what they came for and inflicted many times their loss.
@donaldcake13 жыл бұрын
@@abstractedaway but it had nothing to do with the strategy, this video is about brilliant strategies
@angryrangergaming274 жыл бұрын
Side note USS Missouri was refitted in 1986 so the ship was modernized by the time of the movie Battleship so that means the old girl can still kick a** like no other
@Utubesuperstar4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but with old tech I’d still take a burke ddg
@DaddyHensei4 жыл бұрын
My fav sci fi ship tactics was in a book series. The Lost Fleet by Jack Campbell. If there are any readers out there who enjoy mil sci fi, give it a read. The entire series is full of fleet combat and the author was a ship driver for the Navy. So he gives an interesting perspective of fleet warfare and how it would be applied to space combat.
@damnyourpasswords4 жыл бұрын
it was Great! thanks for reminding me!
@lissavanhouten66285 ай бұрын
I love the Lost Fleet series and it's follow-ups. What's really interesting are the battle tactics used by Captain John "Black Jack" Geary and how he trains his--lost in deep space behind enemy lines--fleet in using them against enemy fleets. They show how space naval fleets would fight battles involving time delays. That is, what happens to tactics when opposing fleets could be light weeks, light hours, light minutes apart? There's lots of space maneuvers involved.
@marsar17754 жыл бұрын
10:04 My dad in the navy complained as much. He also said that would shear the ships keel, but that would ruin the amazing action shot
@007848654 жыл бұрын
13:29 ofcourse, the foul xenos can only mimic the Perfection of Man, for only Man is perfect and destined to rule.
@hunterv99834 жыл бұрын
Yes. Humanity shall spread across not just *THIS* galaxy, but the whole universe. We shall subjugate all sentient life to our will, or slaughter those who don't bend the knee.
@007848654 жыл бұрын
@@hunterv9983 AVE IMPERATOR! THE EMPEROR PROTECTS!
@hunterv99834 жыл бұрын
And once we have bent even Chaos over a barrel, and raped it into a coma, the Imperium of Man shall consume the Multiverse.
@powerhouse61654 жыл бұрын
Never forget 'The Keyes Loop'
@cplhotpockets4 жыл бұрын
Image the following. The reason why there is a huge hole in Zeta Halo when BroHammer picks up Cheif could be because the Infinity blew up, like the Autum, but Cortana wanted to keep it intact because shes looking for something. Well, its been like 2 years from the end of halo 5, and Infinity was the last hope, so destroying it would bring us back to that gritty survival experice from halo 1. In fact, i can very well see a nearly identical version of Halo 1 happening between halo 5 and infinite. While id love to revisit that, its a story weve allready seen, which is why they jumped over it. At this point, the start of halo infinite, Cheof and BroHammer try to escape the Created, as well as reconnect with scattered UNSC forces. Remember, Infinity is MUCH bigger than Pillar of Autum, with 9000 naval crew and 7000 troops plus spartans. Its carring capability is only paralleled by the Pheonix-class's 9000 troops. Many of these forces very likly still are on the ring, and since Cortana cant blast them out by force, she has to play cat 'n mouse, were the promethians and submited covenant troops arnt anywhere nere as effective as Guardian in space. It really reminds me of that desprate yet slightly hopeful feeling the UNSC had during the war.
@FrozenPhoenix154 жыл бұрын
If nothing else, it would be a nice excuse to bring back the Point of No Return.
@USmerica4 жыл бұрын
For some reason I'm always hopeful that Babylon 5 will get some love from this channel.
@andrewjones24533 жыл бұрын
Pff...Prophet Magic and "Fire the biggest gun we can find" are way better tactically (strategically means something different) than the Bonehead Maneuver or the defeat of the Black Star, or retaking Mars, or, for actual strategic decisions, the deception and provocation campaign waged against the Vorlon and Shadows.
@draco84oz4 жыл бұрын
*The Siege of Coruscant (9 ABY - Legends)* During Grand Admiral Thrawn's Campaign against the New Republic, he launched an attack on Coruscant. Initially, the Imperials fared well, with Home Guard Fleet commander Admiral Hiram Drayson being outmatched by Thrawn's tactical genius, and was also completely unprepared for the tactic that would later be known as the "Thrawn Slash" - using interdictor fields to pull ships out of hyperspace with relative precision, allowing for precise strikes against the Republic defenders. Eventually, Drayson was relieved by Garm Bel Iblis, a veteran millitary commander, who pulled the defending ships back, leaving Thrawn with a choice - either continue duelling with the orbital defense platforms, which could take a terrible amount of punishment, or pursue the defending ships closer to planet, thus putting his forces in range of the ground-based defenses. However, Thrawn instead initiated his own plan. His Star Destroyers began using their tractor beams to launch something into low orbit around Coruscant - it was only after the Escort Frigate Evanrue was destroyed that these were revealed to be asteroids equipped with cloaking devices. With their payload deployed, the Imperials withdrew. What the Republic didn't know at the time was that, out of the 287 launches detected, only 22 were real asteroid launches - the remaining were faked using a feedback shunt that allowed the Star Destroyers to appear to be launching somthing without actually doing so. Coruscant was now in a perilous position. Since the Republic could not tell where the asteroids were, they were forced to quarantine the planet, keeping the planetary shield raised for fear of one of the asteroids falling from orbit and destroying a section of the cityscape. Additionally, ships could not approach Coruscant itself for fear of being hit by one of the asteroids. This was a serious concern, as Coruscant relied on imports of food and supplies to keep its population healthy. Thrawn's strategy was not only to seriously distract the Republic leadership with the threat of the asteroids above the Capitol, but also to cause civil unrest within Coruscant's population as supplies started to run out, thus further straining Republic leadership (which had only held Coruscant for 3 years at the time).
@isaackellogg34934 жыл бұрын
People forget that planets habe poles. Unless delinerately inserted into a polar orbit, don't orbiting bodies get pulled into equator-parallel orbits by conservation of angular momentum and planetary gravity (orbital mechanics specialists, help, please)? Were that the case, Coruscant, which did not rely on rotational boost to orbit its ships and platforms (because anti grav) could simply semd and receive via the poles without interruptimg the flow of asteroids.
@isaackellogg34934 жыл бұрын
Pardon spelling, am on mobile
@draco84oz4 жыл бұрын
@@isaackellogg3493 Easy answer there - since when has Star Wars ever worried about realistic zero-g mechanics?
@_Muzolf4 жыл бұрын
@@isaackellogg3493 Yes, material would in time form into a ring around the planet, and then collect into a moon. Key word here being "in time" as in, in geological timelines, millions of years. Kessler syndrome is a very much real concern even for us with our limited spaceflight, and that is exactly what Thrawn caused. With the addition that the damn material is cloaked.
@isaackellogg34934 жыл бұрын
@@_Muzolf Kessler Syndrome is a problem for us because: b) we placed mapping and espionage satellites into polar orbit deliberately; my understanding is that polar orbits do not naturally occur nor accrue due to path of least resistance, and a) Because, due to "our limited spaceflight", we cannot, as in are unable to, use polar launches to bypass equatorial Kesslers. Not only was our North Pole historically a bone of contention between hostile space powers, but the South Pole has no nearby necessary infrastructure to support spaceflight (unless you count the ice wall that closes off the rest of Flat Earth, or the openings to Hollow Earth, which could use the temperature differential between the inside and outside to power an electric grid). On the gripping hand, chemical propellants have such a small margin of efficiency that a rotation-assisted boost into orbit is a significant savings in reaction mass--putting us in fact above the threshold of capability for any-number-of-stages-to-orbit for merely 1960's technology. Given antigrav like they have in Star Wars, the number and availability of launch windows would be exponentially greater (one can avoid rocks in one's path far more easily with a motorcycle than with a train; the fact that rocks on tracks bother trains is no indication that they would bother vehicles that do not use railraod tracks. Since Coruscant has innumerable shipments, from IIRC millions of ships per day, they would have perforce have long since cleared out their old-legacy Kesslers (and new ones added daily!) with antigrav minesweepers. Remember how long they've been populated? This would be like mining New York harbor--the only reason that they would not be cleared out immediately would be that the minesweepers were busy elsewhere. But there would still be enterprising blockade runners who would affix railroad ties to the prows of their ships (analogizing from cloaked rocks to ships unequpped with radar, sonar, or dradis) to act as mine-trippers (better a scorched hull than a holed one). Even if we compare it to the London Blitz, the British had anti-aircraft. But this is getting off the point, which is, Coruscant in the BY+/-100yr era is the hardest planet of all to initiate Kessler Syndrome (I suspect that once again Sci Fi Writers Have No Sense of Scale). Not only is a planet super big, not only does Coruscant probably have automatic Kessler-clearers like we have sidewalks (imagine how much crap accidentally falls off millions of food ships per day), not only are ships armored against Kessler Syndrome (remeber when the Millenium Falcon came out of hyperdrive into the remains of Alderaan? Whipple shields, anyone?), but again, antigrav covers a multitude of sins. As for the cloaking, there is no guarantee that cloaked rocks could from Force users. I'm sure that Coruscant's engineers could rig something up, even inder siege conditions. We, who don't even have our planetary neghborhood mapped yet, have no such luxury. So once again, I don't think that your Suppression by Kessler Syndrome scenario is plausible, given what we know or can reasonable extrapolate from the Star Wars Universe.
@JadeSun73 жыл бұрын
How did the "Death Blossom" not make this list? I mean, there was more strategy in that silly, glorious 80s flick than there was in that DS9 battle. (There were other, strategically superior battles in DS9, to be fair).
@donovan34764 жыл бұрын
The Battle of Thoth Station is absolutely my favorite Sci-Fi space battle ever depicted.
@Everthus44 жыл бұрын
Personally, i like Enders Game. It was pretty cool movie. I know, kinda silly, for children etc, but war IS a game. You play to win with anything you can use. There is no limits if humanity is in danger.
@bobbyrayvictory69054 жыл бұрын
Have you read the book? I strongly recommend you do. It is worth it I promise
@ramonvicentevallesterosric78023 жыл бұрын
The strategy reminds me of how Chaos were finally able to beat Cadia in Warhammer.
@MrZackb693 жыл бұрын
Awesome book an was on USMC Commandant reading list for junior troops last I remember.
@KuDastardly4 жыл бұрын
Actually, I was under the impression that Palps wanted to wipe out the Outbound Flight so that they didn't accidentally trigger the Yuuzhan Vong galactic invasion prematurely.
@gnomadD_4 жыл бұрын
"Including coffee..." Me pensa you American Ben almost as obsessed with The Expanse as me sasa ke?
@nunyabusinesss14764 жыл бұрын
Loved that scene, in that movie where they played "Thunderstruck" as they got the Battleship ready for battle. I didn't think that movie was as bad as others thought, it had it's moments lol. :D
@ExUSSailor4 жыл бұрын
The Adeptus Astartes have the best battlefield strategy, Kill Everything!
@weldonwin4 жыл бұрын
You say that, but clever tactics are actually one of their hallmarks, even those chapters we think of as just charging straight at the enemy in a frenzied bloodlust. Like the Black Templars, fighting a Khornate horde that outnumber them hundreds to one, actually engaging the Khornates then falling back before the bulk of the horde can respond and repeating this, until they have provoked them into giving n to their mindless bloodlust and turned on one another, letting the Templars get down to the business of purging the unclean having negated their numbers advantage.
@Hawk_of_Battle4 жыл бұрын
@@weldonwin I'd like to introduce the guys who made this video to such gems as the Calth Atrocity, the Dropsite Massacre, and the Siege of Terra. Hell, even just seeing the Alpha Legions ordered chaos prelude to the invasion of Pluto before the siege is a masterwork of tactical planning. And that's just a few small parts of the Heresy, let alone the other 10,000 years since.
@tiggerbane43254 жыл бұрын
MARINES MALEVOLENT HOOO HA!
@weldonwin4 жыл бұрын
@@tiggerbane4325 No, those guys are just massive, MASSIVE Warp-Spawned Thundercunts, hated by everyone
@fadelsukoco30924 жыл бұрын
Tip: to defeat the tyr*COUGH* Bloodthirster, shoot it until it dies
@Husker54544 жыл бұрын
Hows man not mention anything from BSG . Hand of the gods was tactical genius and exodus was brilliant
@vilsiran4 жыл бұрын
I can’t remember who wrote this story line but the best outer space strategy is to push a small moon into your opponents home worlds gravity well. You can imagine the destruction.
@joshuabonesteel23033 жыл бұрын
Ra salvatore had the vong in star wars use a creature that could manipulate gravity to pull the moon into the planet. This led to the destruction of the planet and the death of chewbacca, which led to death threats from the fan base.
@fadelsukoco30924 жыл бұрын
Still hoping that you'll talk about Legend of the Galactic Heroes (anime or novel) or The Lost Fleet book series, both of which have smart and logical space tactics.
@thingamabob39023 жыл бұрын
Lost fleet series was a good read, enjoyed them immensely ... I just always flinched when they fired at space stations from millions of kilometers and they sat there and waited for the end, no small orbit-correctional thrusters ... no ? sigh ....
@alexanderdickerson58364 жыл бұрын
I was gonna be pissed if Ender wasn't featured
@LancetFencing4 жыл бұрын
There is no “s” in Enders’ last name. Wiggin.
@rakisuzuki-burke41484 жыл бұрын
The aliens destroyed our most advanced warships with ease. Solution: bring out o World War II Battleship. A 16 in gun is still a 16 in gun and a 46 cm gun is still a 46 cm gun.
@bobbyrayvictory69054 жыл бұрын
If it ain't broke dont fix it
@jeffreyhueseman70613 жыл бұрын
You can't jam ballistic reckoning.
@romeoalpha684 жыл бұрын
Picard Maneuver ! Make it so !
@RichtorLazlo4 жыл бұрын
Your missing captain Sheridan at zahadoom , that was one of the very best for actually showing strategy.
@ivanfreely63664 жыл бұрын
Surprised the Shadows were that ignorant in not securing his White Star ship. IMO, his battle against the Minbari Black Star was a better one to mention.
@RichtorLazlo4 жыл бұрын
Either way Sheridan should be on this list, what was they called him “star killer” that writing I think best showed strategy, I feel that is hard to portray in almost all .
@BreandanOCiarrai4 жыл бұрын
@@ivanfreely6366- the Shadows couldn't come in contact with Vorlon technology- sort of a matter/antimatter concept in metaphor- which the White Star was partly based on (note how Anna recoiled from some Vorlon tech onboard, and she was just a human under Shadow influence), and the Drakh seemed unfamiliar with the interior of the ship later on, likely not being allowed near it (because what slavemaster wants to let his slaves get near a weapon that could potentially hurt them?). The Shadows also didn't recognize the danger because the warheads were inert until the command was sent to activate them. They were Gaim nukes designed specifically to avoid Shadow scanners, appearing as nothing more than ship components until activated.
@ivanfreely63664 жыл бұрын
@@BreandanOCiarrai Thanks for reminding me about the incompatibility between Shadow/Vorlon tech. Was the Gaim nukes mentioned in the TV series or in the books?
@rustytanks94254 жыл бұрын
Can’t win battles with just man power. Laughs in imperial guard.
@PaulvonOberstein4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Harry Turtledove's World War series where aliens invade during WWII. The Germans use one of their super massive railguns to attack landed alien ships and the aliens respond with defensive missiles to shoot down the artillery shells -- except the missiles just splat into the huge artillery shells like flies into a windshield.
@meowcat96364 жыл бұрын
Rail gun has a different meaning in modern usage!
@PaulvonOberstein4 жыл бұрын
@@meowcat9636 *Railway gun
@aaronmaxwell7475 Жыл бұрын
I prefer the British tactic of putting radars on planes and waiting until the Lizards fired anti radiation missiles at them and then switching them off so they waisted loads of them 😂.
@PaulvonOberstein Жыл бұрын
@@aaronmaxwell7475 The aliens in World War are so interesting in that they are so much more technologically advanced than humanity but simultaneously "dumber" and far more linear in how they think than humans. In the Colonization series, I find the sardonic irony of Himmler halfway concluding that the human species as a whole is a kind of "master race" compared to the Lizards very amusing.
@thereturningshadow4 жыл бұрын
What about in Babylon 5 when John Sheridan's maneuver to take out the entire Earth Fleet at Mars using telepaths to connect to their ships and disable them so his fleet can fly straight to Earth and take out Clark virtually unmolested after taking out the planetary defense system?
@pyeitme5084 жыл бұрын
Hope to see u guys talk about why Earth based firearms should be seen in Star Wars. Also what firearms would u guys prefer.
@octo87154 жыл бұрын
Their Star Wars channel Generation Tech has already made a video on the topic
@aaravtulsyan4 жыл бұрын
already done
@pyeitme5084 жыл бұрын
@@octo8715 I know, just want updated version.
@IceFace984 жыл бұрын
The keyes loop from halo man, when I read it, I was flabergasted
@Battleship0094 жыл бұрын
A maneuver that'd impress Thrawn.
@wangbot474 жыл бұрын
I actually enjoyed some of the Battleship movie
@coldwynn4 жыл бұрын
It's a classic just like Wing Commander and Battlefield Earth. They just get better with age.
@fakshen19734 жыл бұрын
I liked the raid on the concentration camp in Battlestar Galactica where they used the FTL drive in the atmosphere in order to release fighters as close to the camp as possible. It was a dangerous gamble but paid off.
@barrybend71894 жыл бұрын
SDF Macross and the Battle of Saturn.
@ebee-uz1oz4 жыл бұрын
oh, hell yeah....was it saturn, a bit rusty, haven't read the books lately....was that the Daedalus maneuver, first time go, since the main guns didn't work?
@barrybend71894 жыл бұрын
@@ebee-uz1oz battle of Saturn was the first use of the Deadelus Attack. And it was the pinpoint barrier draining power for the main gun.
@ebee-uz1oz4 жыл бұрын
@@barrybend7189 oh yeah.....thats right, they used the barrier at the ends of a carrier to punch through the ship, then Destroids unleashed some serious hate. like i said, its been awhile since i read those books.
@barrybend71894 жыл бұрын
@@ebee-uz1oz read it? I watched the original Macross all 36 episodes.
@ebee-uz1oz4 жыл бұрын
@@barrybend7189 i got the show too, when it hit DVD (books are better, describes Lang and his encounter within the wreck of SDF1) I just got a bit behind on watching.....trying to catch up on Expanse (Bad Ass Show)
@tazmania52d4 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old video, but I’m kind of surprised that Battle Star Galactica’s fight at New Caprica wasn’t on there. I mean, Adama jumping a battlestar into atmosphere to launch fighters, jumps out at the last second, they are outgunned 3 to 1, and they still manage to pull it off.
@markmulder98454 жыл бұрын
Foesnt matter where your from, a 16 inch naval gun is still a 16 inch naval gun
@littlehelphere4 жыл бұрын
A 16 inch shell equals, one bad day.
@willangel27454 жыл бұрын
unless you have powerful shields
@palasta4 жыл бұрын
16inch? That's only 40cm. That's a tiny naval gun. Tiny little naval gun...
@builder3964 жыл бұрын
@@palasta Its hardly small though. Largest naval gun in WWII was the japanese 46 cm gun, with most other nations largest guns being 18 inches, or in case of the Germans 38 cm (the one thing they werent megalomaniacs about; though they still had superior range to the 16 inch guns on Iowa class battleships seen here)
@nickvinsable37984 жыл бұрын
Thanks for bringing up Battleship. Now where is Risk?
@FrozenPhoenix154 жыл бұрын
Can’t forget Admiral Cole’s last stand at the Battle of Psi Serpentis. Outnumbered 3-1, successful Slipspace hop, tricking the Covenant into splitting their fleet in half, using a planet’s magnetic field to disrupt Covenant weaponry, a surprise guerilla strike from a rebel fleet, and capping it all off with causing a brown dwarf to go supernova as a final “fuck you”. Halo at its best.
@KillerOrca4 жыл бұрын
And then he most likely escapes by slipspacing out of the ensuing fireball...while falling face-first into the sudden sun he created. What a boss.
@kevinbaker10884 жыл бұрын
Serenity. Bringing the Reavers to the Alliance Fleet.
@starhaven3214 жыл бұрын
That battleship scene in Battleship was worth the rest of the movie It was so nice to watch a Battleship Be a Battleship and fire those huge guns.
@stevehuskey90374 жыл бұрын
I think using a wormhole as a weapon is pretty badass. Like Farscape. Crighton opened a worm hole in front of the enemy ship....that connected to a Star on the other end. I miss that show !
@randycheow42684 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget the Keyes Loop from Halo
@battlespectermedia3 жыл бұрын
"I don't care what part of the galaxy you're from, a sixteen inch naval gun is still a sixteen inch naval gun... Murica." :) Love it.