8 Best Science Fiction Navies Ranked

[@pierre-mariecaulliez6285]

WarHammer 40K : "-Sir ! We've lost 2 Cruisers and a Battleship ! -Did the Admiral escape ? -Negative ! -One casualty ! Noted ! Proceed with the battle !"

[@jaelee1996]

More like: Vox Caster: Lord Admiral, 500,000 of the Emperor's naval crewmen were killed during the boarding action. Lord Admiral: But was the Grand Cruiser recovered? Vox Caster: No, my Lord. Lord Admiral: Dispatch another fleet to recover the ship.

[@jaelee1996]

@Resb Aad A generation lost doesn't compare to the future generations saved. Emperor protects.

[@lenorevanalstine1219]

@@jaelee1996 they should have sent in the death corps of a kriege

[@Lsd911]

@@lenorevanalstine1219 they can walk the radioactive walk

[@NAUNT88]

Commissar! Do your duty!

[@lordstarwars2214]

"We are the Defenders of Humanity. We are the Emperors blazing Sword and the Imperiums chrushing Fist. Hundreds of Billions of Hands ready to die for our Mission in the cold unforgiving Space. We are the Imperial Navy."

[@Dante_-cg3fq]

FOR THE EMPEROR !!!!

[@rustkarl]

ATTENTION! SLAVES OF THE FALSE EMPEROR, YOUR PATHETIC LAST STAND WILL FAIL!

[@philltimothy4600]

For The Man Emperor Of Mankind

[@HomelessOldMan9000]

@@rustkarl I smell heresy...

[@rustkarl]

Swing Thing I assure you, it’s all in your mind.

[@hansyolo8277]

All of the non-humans are the lowest on the list... I love democracy

[@Jeff-tw7jk]

Oh yes, its so.. wonderful

[@MrKeserian]

But no RMN. I'm disappointed, but not surprised because the series just isn't as well known as StarTrek or Star Wars. 'Course, long range FTL doesn't really exist in that universe, but still.

[@justinthompson6364]

To be honest, Klingon warships lost against Federation science ships, and the Covenant leadership was incompetent. That said I thought the CIS and Protoss would have been rated, if not ranked higher.

[@bgcvetan]

Only humanity is capeable of democracy.

[@still_guns]

I love the Republic

[@NikiLuca]

Imperium of Man: *looks at all other universes on this list* "Its free real estate"

[@dragoontype00alphaz19]

Until they try invad my universe of imperial Empire of J that have hyper dimensional weapons that literally destroy space it self so surrender now kneel before your new emperor and may u liv to see the liberation of your universe from chaos

[@imperialguardsmen8543]

DRAGOON TYPE 00 ALPHAZ What?

[@inquistorajax2217]

Luxferre Aurora Throw men at it until it drowns in their blood

[@viperblitz11]

The Imperial navy is actually really shit. It’s just so big that people forget there are other aspects being judged. Plus it’s 40k, which sets the first impression.

[@imperialguardsmen8543]

viperblitz11 Not really shit though. Their slow lumbering giants compared to other ships in other universes that’s for sure. But when it comes to fire power a cruiser of the Imperial Navy could at least fight three star destroyers.

[@Daimon-X]

'For the Emperor! Victorus aut Mortis!' 'The Emperor Protects!, but having a loaded bolter never hurt either."

[@hydrogenone6866]

Daimon X, *"The Planet Broke, Before The Guard"*

[@emperorconstantine1.361]

“In life, War. In death, Peace. In life, Shame. In death, Attonement.”

[@karlsmith2570]

Daimon X We March for Macragge!!!!

[@Daimon-X]

@@hydrogenone6866 Remember Cadia. Never forget. Never forgive.

[@Daimon-X]

@@emperorconstantine1.361 KRIEG... Forward to salvation.

[@imperialguardsman135]

5:12 they worship their technology *Laughs in Tech-Priest*

[@shanegrimes3455]

😂

[@obsidianempire9636]

Every time someone subscribes to Generation Films an alien race submits to humanities glory

[@MrJay_White]

slaanesh approves of this.

[@Chris-bb2hs]

@@MrJay_White Heracy will not be tolerated. Unless for Nurgle.

[@1stKingKazma]

We should decrease our spending on Dolphins and use those funds to wage war on alien scum.

[@That80sGuy1972]

"Every time someone subscribes to Generation Films an alien race submits to humanities glory" Imperialist human scum! Er... I mean, long live the dominance of humanity.

[@jaypea30]

@@MrJay_White *HERACY*

[@NinjaAO42]

Zerg: We will overwhelm the Korpulu Sector with our overwhelming numbers!!! Astra Militarium: Allow us to introduce ourselves

[@aight9151]

Astra mili-what? you're in the guard son

[@EMan-1920]

[Hive Fleet Behemoth would like to know your location]

[@GarlicAvenger]

Zerg: "Nom Nom Nom... The humans so tasty, I love these marines and tanks... Nom Nom Nom..." **A single Astartes chapter and their fleet arrives** Zerg: "Well, fuck."

[@keledek660]

@@GarlicAvenger Isha: "We are numberless. We are ruthless."

[@joshuadunford3171]

For every subscriber, a Roomba is turned into scrap metal

[@texas1872]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@1stKingKazma]

Yes death to robots

[@jakbaillie2563]

No tape knives to them and use them to board alien ships

[@osirisjohnson5165]

@@1stKingKazma your robophobic

[@1stKingKazma]

@@osirisjohnson5165 more of a robot racist.

[@ramesunan3639]

Tremble before His majesty, for we all walk in His immortal shadow.

[@philltimothy4600]

FOR THE MAN EMPEROR OF MANKIND

[@Boseeinsteinshake]

Your corpse emperor is dead.

[@roshanfrost9247]

The False Emperor rots upon his Carrion Throne.

[@philltimothy4600]

I See Heretic Trying To Test Our Faith

[@SonsOfLorgar]

@@philltimothy4600 your faith is a delusion.

[@michaelmutranowski123]

I knew Warhammer was gonna win. Last year I knew nothing about the 40K universe and when I started learning about how ridiculous and hardcore it was I realized just how insane 40K is. Everything in 40K is turned up to 11 everyday and there is no turning back from the brutality of its universe. 40K is like Australia if everyone had a gun, everything was on fire, the wildlife had anti-tank weapons, and the demons from Doom were invading. Honestly surprised that the UNSC beat out the Federation for the number 2 spot. I also can't believe that I didn't get the Starship Troopers reference till he spelled it out.

[@SuperGamefreak18]

Then again if you think about it warhammer 40k takes place LONG after any other series at its oldest is maybe a few thousand yrs in the future with 40k taking place nearly 40k yrs in the future yeah it better seem overpowered

[@christiandauz3742]

@Der amerikanische Judenjäger Spartans use rifles that are somewhat better than what modern soldiers use Guardsmen can take hits from modern rifles and machineguns You know it's bad when one fiction's cannonfodder (Warhammer) beats another fiction's elite (Halo/StarWars/StarCraft)

[@-JustHuman-]

@@SuperGamefreak18 It could be even longer, remember there is a dark age we know nothing about and the Age of Strife, so dates and years are kind fuzzy in those times. And Roboute Guilliman even found out that the emperors calendar wasn't maintained properly either during his apsente, and there is internal strife in the Ordo Chronos about what is actually the current date and time of the Imperium.

[@SuperGamefreak18]

@@-JustHuman- you're right lol

[@christiandauz3742]

@Der amerikanische Judenjäger It's not really that hard to beat Spartans It only takes 8 Covenant Soldiers to beat 1 Spartan One Tempestus Scion (Imperium Stormtrooper) would have defeated over 100 Covenant Soldiers before dying One Space Marine Scout would have killed 200 Covenant Soldiers One Astarte would kill over a thousand Veteran Covenant Soldiers

[@stormlord819]

Humanity First does't get any better than 40k.

[@krautkopf4101994]

Sure it does Ever heard of perry rhoden? Its not as known but its basicly a more technological advanced, less naiv star trek with 40k size of everything

[@MrPobanz]

@@krautkopf4101994 I recently started getting into the audiobooks and its really great and a good change to 40K.

[@killer13324]

no, it doesn't get any better than the UNSC. Adaptability, tenacity, superior cyberwarfare capability, and with the AI superior research capability. And now with the huragok [engineers] and the trove of forerunner technology from Onyx, the UNSC will advance further and faster than the Covenant ever did. Sure the timing of the Spartan II program was coincidence but it's one that ultimately saved humanity from destruction by the covenant because it brought with it the great schism that ended the covenant and brought the human/sangheili alliance as well as the spartan 3 and 4 programs as well as a new military branch added to the UNSC composed entirely of Spartans.

[@KnightsWithoutATable]

@@killer13324 Even without showing you that Master Chief would be a noob in WH40K and woefully under equipped on the battlefield (basic armament of basic troops in the Imperium is a laser rifle that can blow a hole in a modern day tank like it was nothing. This is also what defenders on an Imperial ship would be armed with), but they have to get close enough to get on board an Imperial ship. Looking at how the Covie weapons effect even later USNC ships, getting close enough to try a boarding action is going to be pretty much impossible on all but the smallest of capital ships. Yes, the franchise is overkill in every way while also being the most Brittish and Metal thing ever dreamed up, but look at what they face everyday. The USNC would need a lot of time to catch up to that level, but I would say that they are one of only two of the fleets in this roundup that would even have a chance at adapting to the setting.

[@chadchaddington3646]

@@killer13324 Im sorry cant hear you 9ver the sound of firing a shell that creates a momentary sun in the center of your UNSC fleet from humdreds of thousands of km away and having a few of these guns strapped to ships in my battlefleet. Then if there any survivors left as your systema come back up you realize all too late that hundreds neigh thousands of torpedoes are closing the gap so quickly you have no chan e of escape. After they decimate your hulls you hear a faint popping noise followed by a crash and momentary power loss. Turn around to see a 12ft monster in a suit of armor youve never dreamed of aim a double barrel 40mm automatic cannon at you that then proceeds to decorate your bridge with your entrails. As you lay dying since miraculously you have bately clung to life the last thing you here is, "Heretics have been purges brother captain". The Emporer Protects.

[@XMysticHerox]

The moment you made the first video I knew 40k would win no matter what other factions come up and here we are. Also not surprised the Seperatists lost to the Empire despite their Navy being quite clearly superior. Same with the previous series about ground forces. The series was fun but the votes really were way more about which faction was more popular.

[@XMysticHerox]

@Munuc Mann Well which is the better Navy is not really about how nice the ships look.

[@hydrogenone6866]

To be honest there army and droid star fighters are better, but basic ships are not as powerful do the fact that used to be freighters not originally warships.

[@XMysticHerox]

@@hydrogenone6866 Some like the Lucrehulk were freighters but being able to militarize freighters and still make effective warships in a matter of months is more an advantage not a disadvantage. And this was only the case for the Lucrehulk which was mainly a carrier so did not suffer much from this fact. Their other ships were purpose -build warships.

[@Cipri001]

@@XMysticHerox actually according to the lore (I am a StarCraft lore nerd) the Protoss would shit all over the Imperium and pretty much anyone else in 40k during the Golden Age of Expansion, they were like pre-Fall Eldar level, if not even higher. The only thing which would stop today's Protoss from obliterating the Imperium is their numbers.

[@XMysticHerox]

@Munuc Mann Sure but how nice their ships look does not impact their fighting capabilities. It should be about what in society affects these capabilities. Looking nice is not an advantage in this regard.

[@ODSTrookieful]

"I bet this is going to be a fair competiti-" *ADDS WARHAMMER 40K* Adding Warhammer 40k in any best whatever flexing videos is literally spoiling of who wins the first place.

[@Cipri001]

Not really head-to-head against StarCraft, no matter what fanboys say, as a StarCraft lore nerd they'd have a 50/50 fight.

[@XMysticHerox]

It should not be if you made a sensible comparison about which was better in terms of effectiveness and so on. Doing direct comparisons is just plain boring really and does not mean much. And even just looking at plain strength there are many many more powerful sci fi factions. The Xelee come to mind. In (mindless absolute) comparison 40k is a joke.

[@Cipri001]

@@XMysticHerox yeah, exactly

[@sheevone4359]

Well in the best marines series Warhammer didn't win.

[@vladimirdragonov]

@@sheevone4359 only because they removed _actual_ space marines

[@owlwaifu4949]

I have a feeling that there is no heresy in this video

[@scifimind991]

owl waifu I’m a xenophile hail the greater good

[@owlwaifu4949]

@@scifimind991 are you okay?

[@hang_kentang6709]

@@owlwaifu4949 i sense chaos taint in this one, better give him the emperor's mercy.

[@IceBear2701]

@@scifimind991 I sense chaos in this one.....I shall contact the Inquisition immediately

[@scifimind991]

@@IceBear2701 wrong im with the tau

[@lordfrostwind3151]

Daemons pouring out of the devil's rectum? Slaanesh approves of this description. I do think the UNSC was a good second, they have incredible abilities when it comes to innovation, just look at how the Spartan program evolved over the course of just a few decades, and became WAY less morally questionable.

[@johnathangoodwin3610]

Becoming WAY less morally questionable really lowered the bar on terms of a quality end product though. So, why consider that a good thing? In this situation, I must declare," In the face of extinction ANYTHING else is preferable,." If it comes to having children join the military, we humans have been doing that for millions of years, morally questionable or no. If it came right down to it, it would be better for every single human child to receive military training of some form, then have our species fade from life. I'm not saying I would want that, or that I would like it. However, we all must do what must be done.

[@johnathangoodwin3610]

@@enoughredshirts7363 Ah, but having more soldier requires more logistical power. And when your naval force (in this case space navy) is completely out-gunned, logistics over active war-zones becomes nigh impossible. However, you are correct in that it truly doesn't matter as much in the human-covenant war because Spartan IV's didn't exist yet. So.. fair point there.

[@nathandamaren2093]

One spartan 2 of morally questionable creation > One spartan 4 fireteam.

[@speedercat154]

The forerunners if they teamed up with ancient humanity *could* or *might* stand a chance against the Imperium of man. If you took the Forerunners at the height of their power along with doing the same with ancient humanity. Halo

[@abunchoftvs4018]

Glorp Wallaby nah, the forerunners could wipe the floor with everyone on this list

[@levivanderveen4671]

This wasn’t even a contest imo, THE EMPEROR PROTECTS

[@nidnoms3622]

until the Tyranids arrive

[@christopherdockter6910]

@@nidnoms3622 Heresy!

[@nidnoms3622]

@@christopherdockter6910 who says im human?

[@christopherdockter6910]

@@nidnoms3622 Then you shall be purged xeno filth!

[@nidnoms3622]

Christopher Dockter wait till after we consume Terra and digest your emperors corpse

[@weldonwin]

Covenant: Humans, feel the wrath of our mighty super carrier... Imperium of Man: *(Laughs in Glorianna Battleship)*

[@clan741]

weldonwin but... the Glorianna battleship is less than 9 km smaller than the covenant super carrier. So far not even the Imperium has a mainlined battleship that matches the sheer ridiculousness that is the Super Carrier. (In before 40k fanboys pounce on me)

[@nayrosnoflaalfonso1050]

@@clan741 it does include the rok of the dark angel's gloriana battleship, The Rock which is a remenant of their homeworld of caliban and its pretty much half of a planet turned into a space ship if your not convinced then just look up eldar craft worlds

[@clan741]

Nayrosnofla Alfonso I said MAINLINED ships, the Roc is a special one of a kind thing, same as the Phanlanx. If you include those then you should include High Charity. Also I said Imperial ships, I’m well aware of Eldar Craftworlds but their not part of the list nor discussion

[@philltimothy4600]

@@clan741 They would just ram the covenant carrier if they could not destroy it with the ships weapon...heck thats what they did to the necrons world engine

[@clan741]

Imperium Of Man true, in fact thats a tactic the UNSC occasionally used. But if ya have to ram your ship into another just to kill it then it doesn’t really show the superiority of your own craft, in fact the exact opposite.

[@VindicAlpha]

Any other sci-fi fleet: We lost an entire fleet! Thousands of lives lost in an FTL accident! What an irreparable tragedy! Our war effort is crippled for years! The Imperial Navy: We lost an entire fleet in Warp transit. Hundreds of thousands are dead, if not worse. Tell the Guards they can only expect sporadic orbital support until we bring a new one. We expect reinforcements within the year... if they don't get delayed for decades or centuries. They know what it is. Every other Sci-fi Fleet:... A-Are you okay?! The Imperial Navy: *shrugs* It's Monday.

[@christiandauz3742]

The Imperial Navy: The battle hasn't even started!

[@peachybiscuits]

VindicAlpha slow Monday

[@viperblitz11]

"Delayed for decades or centuries" Sounds like a number one navy to me.

[@christiandauz3742]

@@viperblitz11 "Can also arrive in just one second or several years in the past!" Sounds like they can enter Star Wars BEFORE THE CLONE WARS!

[@VindicAlpha]

@@viperblitz11 The Imperial Navy : The Warp is a bitch. On the plus side, the reinforcements might also arrive before they leave port. Literally.

[@TheLoraxshadenough]

Every time someone subscribes, an alien is pushed into an industrial sized blender.

[@gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954]

If you listen to this video very carefully, at the end you can hear the click as the off screen Inquisitor slowly and reluctantly eases the hammer on her bolt pistol down. You have won yourselves a reprieve for now lads, but I am pretty sure this is your last chance...

[@GenerationFilms]

Understood.

[@devon4520]

WH 40k is like a masochist's dream and hardcore death metal lover's playground. Its just max everything. Cuteness is not in the dictionary for WH 40k.

[@SonsOfLorgar]

Ripper swarms are cute..

[@darkdawnbringer]

Watching space marines carve : kill the heretic in to their bolterrounds in "cute" ...

[@nikolai60]

There's a few bits of lore I don't think you realize exists....

[@TommyBoyee123]

But what about sexiness?!

[@mikewhitaker2880]

that would be Slanesh's department Tommyboyee123....

[@CallsignYukiMizuki]

Protoss the best Xenos? Rightfully so, Protoss warriors have died for the sake of humanity HUMANITY FIRST

[@Cipri001]

Agreed

[@HiopX]

40k: - Yesterday, we lost 3 planets, 1000 ships, and 500 million ground forces. Including 5 Space Marines - Were we able to recover their geneseeds? - yes - then it truly was a blessed day. Praise the emperor

[@shanegrimes3455]

Lol..search celestial lion

[@HiopX]

@@shanegrimes3455 I think they lost a bit more than 5 Astartes

[@irend1163]

3 planets and 5 space marines is too much

[@RS43210]

@@irend1163 Yeah... Maybe let's sacrifice another planet and 2 or 3 guard regiments to save the squad, then it would be a victory to inspire hymns!

[@nanomachinesson2513]

UNSC should absolutely be that high. Most other factions barely ever show any innovations in design. During Halo the UNSC acknowledges their flaws and actually improves their designs far faster than anyone else

[@christiandauz3742]

Yet they were losing the war against the Covenant Had the Elites not rebelled, the Covenant would have won

[@Asser1212]

UNSC was amazing to watch transform during the war. They constantly worked to close the gap between themselves and the covenant. If the UNSC started the human-covenant war with the tech they had by Halo 4, they would have absolutely decimated them.

[@viperblitz11]

It doesn't really matter where it goes, really. If the navy that demolished it at every turn is ranked second from the bottom, they have no real set standards to be judging from in the first place.

[@amistrophy]

@@viperblitz11 The Covenant was stagnant and relied on little prowess of their own

[@gabenewell3955]

@@amistrophy irrelevant most faction

[@NovoCognition]

About the UNSC Navy; There is a CRITICAL difference in technology in their ships from before the Human-Covenant and after it. Yes before the UNSC had inferior technology but by the time of Halo 4 the new mainline cruiser the Autumn-Class (named after the famous Halcyon-Class Pillar of Autumn) replaced the Marathon-Class and with innovation between Human, Covenant, and Forerunner tech merged together in weapons, armor, shielding, and engines changed it from it requirement 3 UNSC ships to defeat a single Covenant ship of a similar class to having 1 UNSC being able to take on two or three Covenant ships of a similar class. In Spartan OPS, when see the UNSC Infinity ram a CCS-Class Battlecruiser and then just keep on fighting with little to no damage.

[@christiandauz3742]

The tech and species difference are the only reasons why the Covenant beat humanity in Halo If the Humans had the Unggoys/Grunts on their side PLUS same tech, they would have curbstomp the Covenant

[@screamingfang]

​@@christiandauz3742 Um.. Excuse me, the Covenant didn't beat humanity, yes in the early stages of the Human-Covenant war, the covenant was winning, but in 2552 Humanity gained an upper hand in the war. When Master Chief blew up Installation 04, it caused a political destabilization in the Covenant. After the Battle of Installation 04, most of every engagement the Covenant against the UNSC, the Covenant lost. The Battle of Installation 04 turned the tide of the Human-Covenant War. In November 2552 the Fleet of Retribution joined forces with the UNSC Navy because the Prophets had made the Brutes the Covenants primary military force.

[@christiandauz3742]

@@screamingfang Master Chief only became important half-way through the war A single Imperium Fleet would have blown up Reach and Earth in less than a year

[@MrEcoho]

@@christiandauz3742 and the forerunners at their prime would curb stomp 40k into the ground, so whats your point?

[@g0tm04]

Can’t wait for the next series. Dolphins are degenerates

[@1stKingKazma]

Yes indeed

[@szymonbollin6277]

Feminism is most degenerate killing unborn babies = supporting aliens

[@Sleepygayboi9797]

@@szymonbollin6277 dude stop no one cares

[@CrusaderSports250]

But they did thank us for the fish!☺.

[@SoundwaveSG1]

what about The Borg, The Dominion, The Romulan Star Empire, The Goa'uld, The Ori, The Wraith, The Repiclators, The Asgard, The Rebel Alliance, Earth Alliance, Minbari Federation, The Centauri Republic, The Vorlons and the Shadows?

[@freezetasticvoyage19]

It would be a more complex list, then

[@goofygoober779]

Don't forget about the Mass effect Navies.

[@SonsOfLorgar]

What about the Legions loyal to the Warmaster...

[@carlbrittain1993]

What about the Tau? The Orks? The Eldar? The Dark Eldar? The Necrons? The Tyranids? The Old Ones? The C'tan? The Chaos fleets? (all of them, not just the Warmaster's)

[@carlbrittain1993]

And we're not even going to mention the human fleets from the Dark Age of Technology. Mostly because we can't, but also because they would wipe the floor with any one else. Everything the Imperium has is but a pale replica of what it was capable of in its true heyday. Then, it forced not just the Eldar (which was still in its prime at this point, Slaanesh didn't exist yet) but also the Orks and countless other aliens into signing non-aggression treaties with the human federation of the time. And I feel obligated to remind you that the Space Marines didn't exist at this point in time; all the other races did this fron the terror they felt from humanity's technology alone.

[@alekseitheandor]

No heresy was committed today

[@apolloaerospace7773]

I am Atheist

[@milanzenka2500]

@@apolloaerospace7773 A servitor volunteer.

[@danielgibson3422]

Untrue they said that humanity in SC sucked, such lies!

[@danielbeck2739]

@@danielgibson3422 Honestly they're not wrong. Terrains have essentially one class of warship, the battle cruiser. True it's capable of carrying a number of squadrons of fighter craft as well as a sizable ground detachment for planetary operations, but there is very little diversity of ship types when it comes to capitol ships. It's weapons are formidable, but lacks shields like the UNSC ships. They're most powerful weapon the Yamato Cannon is a directional fired weapon like a MAC with approximately 15x the firepower, but is slow to charge and eats much of the power reserves. So if that cannon is damaged during charging you're more then likely stuck if you had to warp out in an emergency. Now in SC2 some were outfitted with shields, but again they were no where near the power rating of the Protoss or the Covenant for that matter. And lets not also forget that the terrains were fighting among each other in civil war, but unlike the UNSC and the Insurgents, it never ended during the conflicts with the Zerg and the Protoss. So the Terrains were more divided and were easier to deal with as most factions were extremely slow to gather their forces and organize any realistic counter-offensive for nearly 70% of the war. And again, the in-fighting never stopped, in fact I'd even go as far to say it got worse. It literally took a near galactic extinction level event to put an end to the fighting, yeah I'd have to agree they sucked.

[@danielgibson3422]

@@danielbeck2739 In lore the battle cruiser has multiple sizes and models for different fleet rolls. Something else of note too is that they are said to be just as capable as the other two races in the sector. That is quite a complement when compared to 2 races that where guided and engineered by super beings. A good example is they managed to take and hold a position right outside of the zergs primary hive cluster with I believe a fleet of around 50-60 ships, and keep in mind this was during the hight of Zerg power... And that wasn't even the first time they managed it...

[@PackHunter117]

While I agree that the Covenant is pretty racist you have to realize that a lot of the roles given to each species were the roles that each race excelled at. The Jackals for example are excellent snipers and the Brutes are extremely great shock troopers. You wouldn’t want to give the Brutes sniper duties for example because they’d likely fail everytime.

[@lolmeme69_]

How about the grunts?

[@michaelkeha]

@@lolmeme69_ there are a lot of them so chaff is there jobs

[@tristanbackup2536]

@@lolmeme69_ Cannon fodder. They breed like mad, make rats blush in comparison.

[@Angry_Peanut_52]

​@@tristanbackup2536there is no punishment more cruel than guarding the Grunt-mating chamber

[@Kuro788]

If you guys have a horse in this race that wasn't the highest rank. Don't worry, because it isn't about the "how"... it's the "why." Or rather what I mean is, it's better to look at the context of 'why' the way things are in each of these franchises over 'how' can something destroy something else. *Star Trek* deals with a small cast of characters expected to take on and adapt to difficult situations. Overcoming these situations requires the ingenuity of the cast of characters in combination to the technology at their disposal like a ship like the USS Enterprise. They are often alone with their technology, there is often no help from other Starfleet vessels; so there is leeway given on how this technology can perform. This is why things like photon torpedoes have yields. If something can't be destroyed it only means that there was not enough power in the torpedo/phaser or the problem can only be overcome by something else (often another tool of technology or a character's epiphany). *Star Wars,* it goes with saying, is an adventure story. And the variety of elements facility this adventure. The Empire for example is a force of oppression and terror, rather than war in this setting; thus the ships, soldiers, and vehicles reflect this. Walkers, for example, are impractical but they are also intimidating and visually striking. Speed is another example of this, as it is also trivialized in this franchise. Not because the writers like George Lucas were lazy, rather accounting for the 'time it takes' gets in the way of moving the plot forward, so ships are faster. *Warhammer 40k* is base on a table-top miniatures wargame. The striking visuals of the characters and setting are an important aspect to this table top. You physically build these miniatures and customize them. Thus the setting is more about the spectacle of the fight and the immensity of the setting, where these customized miniatures could be doing their own badass thing in their corner of the universe without getting in the way of lore.

[@SaviourSword995]

I never thought UNSC come at 2nd having close score with Imperium. I mean how UNSC won this whole war shows how Adaptable they are. Using Forerunner and Covenant tech, reverse engineering it, using in their ships and ground forces and you get most efficient navy. And let's be honest we Halo fans are glad that you didn't include Forerunner navy. They are straight up OP even for Imperial Navy

[@jaypea30]

*QUADRILLIONS OF SHIPS WITH MASSIVE FUCKING GUNS AND A TRILLION MORE READY BY TOMORROW* *THE EMPEROR PROTECTS*

[@SaviourSword995]

Johno The Gamer *laughs in Forerunner*

[@the.orthodox.photographer2272]

@@jaypea30 *laughs in Halo rings*

[@nayrosnoflaalfonso1050]

@@SaviourSword995 yeah, i agree the forerunners are waaaaaay too much for the imperium but there is the necrons the orks and the old ones that can contend with the forerunners old one especialy

[@viperblitz11]

The ranking is completely arbitrary. No mention whatsoever of the stunning number of irreplaceable ships the Imperium has because they lost the technology, or the time it takes to replace them because screwing in a nut for a goddamn air conditioner involves a religious ceremony. Not that sheer strength matters anyway, because the Covenant is second from the bottom. And the fleet with objectively inferior vessels which it demolished at every turn is second from the top. The fans picked their favorites, there is no standard being measured here. The UNSC is high because people like Halo, and the Imperium is first because its only redeeming quality is that it's so big its huge glaring flaws are suddenly forgotten about.

[@viperblitz11]

This is why you don't trust the fans to make decisions. The flaws in the human factions and strengths of the aliens were all ignored outright.

[@beastmastergaming8039]

Warhammer 40k fan boys: heracy Halo fan boys: MORE HERACY!!! Star Trek fan boys: what did I get into

[@renzomananqul9900]

Star wars fan boys: Super duper heresy

[@beastmastergaming8039]

Star Wars fanboys: It’s TREASON THEN

[@orumonuldor1340]

While the imperium is powerful, you have to remember that it's operating at only a fraction of its true technological level.

[@marsbars4767]

Maybe you guys could go a bit more into other factions such as the necrons from wh40k, the Zerg from Starcraft, or maybe the forerunners from halo? Just a suggestion.

[@TheCaniblcat]

Personally, I subscribe to the theory that Palpatine authorized the creation of the Death Star because he foresaw the invasion of the Yuuzhan Vong worldships and knew that even a fleet of Super Star Destroyers wouldn't be enough to take those out quickly and efficiently.

[@nathandamaren2093]

A fleet of eclipse class ssd would work. Superlaser on a budget.

[@davidm1563]

Guys you better post some videos of the Thailand trip! Me and a buddy are thinking of doing something similar so would be awesome to see what you guys get up to.

[@GenerationFilms]

Will do! Feel free to follow us on IG for updates. Or if not, we will have episodes from there coming soon...

[@Antares2]

I'm inquisitor Shepard, and this is my favorite ranking you KZbin. I will hereby delay Exterminatus.

[@Lenzabi]

Also noticed that game franchises are above film franchises. UNSC over Starfleet, and Protoss above others, and covenant over Klingons etc. 40k over all others, I find that interesting

[@MrRobot-0]

Games can get away with way more bulshit almoast as much as anime and anime games like, mickey fucking mouse can pwor of the friendship trough a chaos god due the bullshit hack of kingdom hearts.

[@HoneyBadger1779]

Would you guys ever do the Stargate, Babylon 5 or Farscape franchise?

[@karlsmith2570]

James Jordan or even Lexx

[@TheRealKoltoroc]

@@karlsmith2570 yeah, lets not go there. It is a silly place.

[@hitandruncommentor]

Or Andromeda, stupid series but incredible ships

[@GarlicAvenger]

Because compared to everything else on the list they generally are worse anyway. and the few that are higher on the list (Ori, Asgard, Replicators, peacekeepers..) are generally gonna get stomped by the top 3/4ths of the list anyway.

[@maico3010]

In starcraft why didn't you consider the UED? The confederacy and such i can understand but the UED came from earth with enough force to establish a strong presence in the koprulu sector.

[@dgrmn12345]

@Lord Admiral Spire Only because the Zerg was divided. If the Zerg was at its peak, even the UED would fall. But it is still true that they were a big threat

[@monarch3335]

As I was watching this video: I still stand by my higher rating for the Covenant simply because of their tech. No corporation can ever overpower a proper military. Watch Templin's video on why they don't work as governments. GOOD The Empire is under the UNSC. Starfleet deserves to be WAY lower. UNSC ships are actually really good. And the guys in space, I think, were WAY braver than any other UNSC military force.

[@randyranderson690]

The UNSC ships had ablative armor, which is designed to break apart in order to soak up impact energy. This same armor is used on the M1 Abrams tank

[@spaceman6463]

Best mech’s in sci-fi

[@spaceman6463]

Der amerikanische Judenjäger Look up gundam

[@SonsOfLorgar]

@@spaceman6463 gundams are comparable to eldar scout titans at best.

[@spaceman6463]

SonsOfLorgar Look up gurren lagann

[@TacynMegan]

The men of iron of wh40k

[@Borthax]

@@spaceman6463 Boi sit down and hear the roar of Imperator class titan fire. That sweet continent busting firepower.

[@irishspartanstudios]

Every Other Sci-Fi Navy: "It's the end times! Activate FTL drive! Run!" Imperium Navy: "By the Emperor, I hate Mondays!"

[@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847]

Xeelee and Photino Birds: "Are these jokers for reelz, lol?!!"

[@bgcvetan]

seeing aliens in the bottom of the list really puts smile on my face.

[@duncankelcey9281]

"Rico doesn't look Argentinean" funny thing is in the book he was Filipino

[@mariakelly5]

Yeah. What did the film producers have against Fillipinos?

[@shanegrimes3455]

@@mariakelly5 ?

[@rolfgrell4783]

Every time Generation Films gains a subscriber, another alien race is defeated by glorious humanity.

[@AJZulu]

For the EMPEROR and IMPERIUM!

[@rolfgrell4783]

For the Empire!

[@illidin23]

much like the star wars vs videos you guys did would you think about doing the Protoss vs the covanet vs the separatist alliance? or toss one of those out or add the UNSC in that mix as well and the federation for a big 4 way brawl

[@TheGloriousHawk]

i would like a completed "humanity first codebook" for my personal collection

[@Comradetau1]

Mech series idea seems very popular here, if so can't wait for my Tau Empire

[@nerdslayer1416]

We need a best space infection Flood(halo) Necromorphs(dead space) The ones from Star Wars Xenomorphs(alien) The bugs from red faction The taken(destiny)

[@iapetusmccool]

Jain (Polity series)

[@EMan-1920]

Tyranid Hive Fleets (Warhammer 40K)

[@y.kazayaki3681]

Tyranid hive .... The size of the outer Galaxy of the milky way

[@spartan0442]

Dear humanity, we regret being alien bastards we regret come in to earth and we most definitely regret the corps blew up our raggedy ass fleet!

[@barrybend7189]

Best mech based armies in Sci-fi next please( no super robots please). My nomination is the Earth Sphere Federation from Gundam 00.

[@spaceman6463]

Barry Bend No gurren lagann : (

[@barrybend7189]

@@spaceman6463 no Gurren Lagann.

[@spaceman6463]

Barry Bend Noooooooooooooooooooo

[@monkeyman-mm8qc]

If they include the tau from 40k I'm down

[@sergiosukamto415]

@@monkeyman-mm8qc well Tau FTL is actually slower than the imperium one

[@HotCheetos1995]

Have you should consider including the Forerunners from the Halo franchise in some of your comparison videos?

[@HeartHiretsukan]

The Imperium coming first might've prevented you from facing the Emperor's fury, however the mere inclusion of another 7 factions in this list is HERESY. *CLICK* *BAM*

[@555tork]

have fun in thailand, would you guys consider doing a best elite troops from science fiction universes.

[@tobytheshipposter8735]

1: Imperium of man 2: Galactic empire 3: Covernant 4: Star fleet 5: Protoss 6: UNSC 7: Klingons

[@AnimeAmvStar]

lol

[@Cembrovic]

I dont think that the engineers from the empire are that smart cuz you saw it in a movie where the biggest ship in star wars got destroyed by a *BASIC FIGHTER*

[@tobytheshipposter8735]

@@Cembrovic I didn't say the engineers of the empire was smart though...

[@justinthompson6364]

Imo the UNSC was rated high due to their flexibility. The fact that they were able to defeat the Covenant at all (even with their incompetent leadership) is pretty impressive.

[@christiandauz3742]

Only because the Elites rebelled and sided with the UNSC

[@justinthompson6364]

@@christiandauz3742 Right. But he UNSC held their own for a while, until the Covenant collapsed under its own bad system and ONI's prodding, if you believe the rumors.

[@christiandauz3742]

@@justinthompson6364 I like to see the UNSC (at the start of the Covenant War) handle Orks AND Chaos Daemons! And half of their Spartans going rogue!

[@justinthompson6364]

@@christiandauz3742 Ughh, this crap again. You got your top spot, isn't that enough? "at the start of the Covenant war" What's the matter, afraid the post war UNSC might actually stand a chance? The UNSC didn't have any Spartans "at the start of the Covenant war". The earliest ones were the Spartan-II's, educated in discipline and morality since their early childhood. They aren't going to defect without special effort from Chaos.

[@christiandauz3742]

@@justinthompson6364 Then we also include the post-war Covenant Splinter Forces and Cortana's rebellion (Which deprives the UNSC of A.I. dumbass and now the UNSC has to fight Promethean Forces under the AIs!) We also include the Primaris Marines, Custodes actively fighting and more Exterminatus type weapons And more Imperium Ships

[@samswann3727]

Wanting to say something as a massive warhammer fan as a lot of people are bashing on it but are missing a key point. A lot of people are basically saying that warhammer is op and silly and childish and always wins however I feel that they are missing something. Halo, Star Wars, star treck etc etc are all science fiction. The genre of science fiction is to basically be a semi realistic and grounded futuristic setting. Warhammer isn’t and doesn’t claim to be science fiction is a futuristic dystopian fantasy. It doesn’t have to play by the same rules and doesn’t have to be realistic. I agree it’s probably not a good idea to put them in these comparisons as they are on a different scale and exists within a general of different rules. I think warhammer is special for this and has an incredibly interesting universe that offers something different, a lot of people who don’t know much about the lore (I mean no dis respect) have this idea that it’s some power fantasy for kids but this isn’t the case, much of the lore is based around a desperate struggle for survival and is about human fear and courage in the face of impossible odds. Most futuristic settings show humanity as this great, unified force for good and technology and progression but warhammer is the opposite of that as it is pure grim dystopian and the setting was made from a table top wargame so the lore is going to be that of all out war. I don’t think it should be put in these comparisons videos as it’s not a fair comparisons as they can’t really lose although I feel it’s worth keeping them in to discus them but perhaps not ranking them? That’s topic for another discussion but to those that feel the lore is childish and silly I ask you to pick up one of the many novels and give it a read and you may be surprised at the level of depth this universe has to offer. It’s not for everyone I get that but I think it’s a unique setting worth looking into with an open mind.

[@SonsOfLorgar]

Death to all false Emperors...

[@christiandauz3742]

It is realistic in some ways Even with all that powerful magic and technology, humans will be humans Warhammer is basically what would happen if you give Cavemen nukes!

[@DJenser]

If you look at this list with the understanding that the Imperium of Man is a far older organization than either the Covenant or even the Republic, it's easy to see why it came out on top.

[@christiandauz3742]

@@DJenser Bullshit The Old Republic is 25k years old! Star Wars History is over 2 MILLION YEARS OLD!

[@carlbrittain1993]

@@christiandauz3742 yeah, and? The Necrons have been in stasis for 60 MILLION YEARS! Also, humanity has been around for over 40000 years. Since the warp was first discovered, were talking 36k years. Give humanity a couple thousand years to "perfect" warp travel and you're still looking at well in excess of 30k years. So yeah, the Imperium in Warhammer 40k is still an older civilization.

[@GoTimeGross]

I love that you give credit to starcraft. I thought I was the only 1 playing. Didn't mention the golden armada- carriers have arrived.

[@ThatOneGuy-iv9sn]

The covenant got so low because of the fan base we are mostly humans in support of the humanity first movement

[@worsethanyouthink]

With the unsc you were dising about the mac. Ure you had to aim that but what about flack, Chain guyns, macro mac, nukes, missile pods, etc. That work just as good with enough numbers.

[@casbot71]

*New list: best Enemy Alien fleets.* You can't have a space battle without two sides, okay six sides in *40k.* And it's the villain you prove your mettle against, a formidable foe you still manage to overcome (or just survive against - *HALO)* that makes the victory even sweeter. Conversely losing to a rag tag bunch of rebels with your own tech is downright embarrassing. But I suppose they should be included as they had a lot of aliens in their organization _"Xeno lovers"_ *spits* Without them it's just a endless series of wargames and fleet maneuvers, so let's decide on the rules for choosing contenders. Most IP's are humanity vs one implacable foe, but there are a few that get more complicated. Now for *40k* choices will have to be made. *Chaos marines* seem obvious, but really they're just twisted humans with the same basic gear, but *Orks* have completely different physics and are so OP vs fantasy orcs. And the *Tau* are interesting because they are a multi species federation with high minded ideals and technological advancement, they're practically *Starfleet in 40k.* Perhaps do *Orcs and Tau,* the big list of enemies IP's get two bites. And that leads to *Starfleet* and the *Federation.* The *Dominion* is a good choice. A caste system with a formidable soldier type loyal unto death. A diplomatic and strategic class that aided in their devious planning and subterfuge, getting potential rivals to fight each other, and general misdirection of intentions. And then the bosses, who are powerful shapeshifters (one could travel at warp unaided), and brutal ruthless opponents, also masters of subterfuge and misdirection as well as long term machiavellian planners. But since *Strat Trek* has so many villains, the *Borg* as well. Just don't include too much of Janeways neutering of them. *TNG Borg* are scarier. The *Borg* can do double duty in yet another series I just thought up… *Most formidable enemy ships* Although for that I recommend not using *Dominion* ships but going with the *Kremin* weapon ship - exist out of time, erasing whole species from existence, it has the best first strike capability of any ship, not bang your dead, but you were _never alive._ _Let us _*_judge_*_ the _*_xeno scum_*_ our brave men and women will be killing._

[@killer13324]

Every time Generation Films gets a new subscriber, an alien family gets slaughtered and t-bagged by a spartan.

[@amandafranks5108]

The God EMPEROR knew this would be the result!

[@CDESRTube]

Great job on all the work. Great video

[@Sparten7F4]

The sheer lack of understanding of the Covenant, and Halo lore, is just.... Hilarious. And they think they can evaluate the militaries of the Halo universe? Equally as hilarious an assertion. The reason Master Chief could find out that the Halo arrays are WMDs is in several large reasons. First among them, the 'Oracles' like Guilty Spark didn't and don't follow the instructions of the Prophets. They rarely answer questions unless they are direct and applicable to where that Monitor is. Guilty Spark, for instance, would not have answered questions about the Ark until he was himself stationed there awaiting his new Hallo array's completion. He also did NOT mention the Ark when explaining the purpose of the arrays to Cortana and Chief. Cortana also did what the Covenant would not, tearing into Forerunner data and disassembling t irreparably. Taking it into her being, whereas Covenant AI is nowhere near advanced - or unshackled - enough to allow that. Assuming that the Prophets would even allow it to do that if it WERE advanced and unshackled enough to manage it. Or that they'd listen to what it had to say if it proved to contradict the religious instructions of the Prophets. And finally, the Prophets are suppressing the truth. In Halo 2 you literally go on a mission as the Arbiter to massacre a force that found out what the truth of the Sacred Rings was, because SOMEONE broke the religious laws and asked an Oracle directly about it. It isn't that the Covenant is 'stupid' like you misrepresent so cavalierly, it's that the Prophets want to maintain their controls. Anyone who finds out what the Monitors know, and what the Rings do, is killed or otherwise silenced. The Prophets also wage a war on Humanity to prevent the loss of their power, because the OTHER THING you neglected to mention in your videos is that the UNSC gets so much more out of Forerunner tech than the Covenant so much more easily because THEY are the Reclaimers. Genetically identified as Human and thus granted basically Admin keys to... Whatever Forerunner tech is around. Humans had the liberal virtues to question and experiment freely the Rings and the Monitors, the free idea exchange to share the answers, and Admin Keys to ALL of the answers just by simply asking for them.

[@DJZO1203]

Even with this included their navies wouldn’t move up the list that much.

[@Sparten7F4]

@@DJZO1203 I neither know that they would or would not. But their LITERAL JOB HERE was to describe the pros and cons of these organizations accurately for people to make votes on. They did not do that.

[@DJZO1203]

Ozpin Cane well I mean they did. They did a video for pros and cons for the navies.

[@Sparten7F4]

@@DJZO1203 Yeah, and the cons for the Covenant were 'Ermaghur the Grunts tho' and not much else. And they demonstrated here that they don't KNOW how any of this works.

[@philltimothy4600]

Heresy?!?!

[@jetlox]

When your talking about the covenant from halo in the picture is one of the grunts wearing an ODST helmet at 3:55 ?

[@spaceman6463]

Best super soldier in sci-fi

[@sergiosukamto415]

adeptus Custodes and primaris marine

[@ollyravenhill7341]

Would the Jedi be republic super soldiers. Also the imperium would just win.

[@spaceman6463]

SIR Badger Jedi don’t count

[@spaceman6463]

SIR Badger Needs to be genetic modified or Cybernetically enhance And if the Jedi where in this they slap

[@randycheow4268]

Spartans

[@aymericdeascalon4590]

If you do another series, a couple of suggestions: the colonial fleet from Battlestar Galactica, The Minbari/Rangers whitestar fleet from Babylon 5, and the Zentradi and Earth fleets from Robotech.

[@alexanerose4820]

I think the whole "Their culture is regressive" argument is so subjective that taking it into account in rating is highly flawed and better just as a side mention. Like the covenant for example: Their culture not innovative and stupid? That's hard to swallow considering that they still reversed engineered highly advanced tech. True humanity has some good things like AI but starting on a garbage pile (humanity) and reaching a good height compared to using high ground to go even higher (the covenant reverse engineering the advanced tech they have) doesn't change the fact that the latter is smarter for doing so. I mean so they reversed engineered technology. So what? We humans do it all the time to each other and if we found Forerunner tech we would do it too! Heck they were able to conquer and maintain a large Empire with multiple species under it. That needs smarts and considering the Prophets and elites ran the whole damn thing the Covenant are smart. Not the smart we appreciate but smart regardless. The universe is rather fatal to true idiots. And no I'm not a Xeno lover so put that phone to the Inquisition down. I'm just respecting my enemy so I can effectively purge them

[@TheTallGuy1992]

@Alexane Rose the Covenant reverse engineering forerunner tech had little to do with their placement it had more to do with things like their caste system, their dangerous mindset that helps create rebellions against itself like the unngog rebellion and it's reluctance to innovate past a certain point out of dogmatic beliefs. it's less that they reverse engineering forerunner tech more the fact they only reverse engineer forerunner tech.

[@Scortch-lo3xy]

@Alexane Rose the holy inquisition would like to know you're location...

[@viperblitz11]

"The Covenant are low because their culture is regressive." *Imperium of Man is #1*

[@70briareos]

I guess space navies from sci-fi books and novels are not included in this list. I'm assuming that because the Royal Manticoran Navy is missing from this video.

[@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847]

Every single one of these navies are IRRELEVANT and POINTLESS when it comes to one Xeelee Night fighter. No explanation needed...

[@EMan-1920]

I mean weaponizing black holes is overkill, so how the fuck do you counter that?

[@Izzy777-_-]

*Laughs in shooting literal black holes*

[@y.kazayaki3681]

the Imperial Navy or more like the Adeptus Mechanicus have Black hole technology and the Older Imperium in its prime had Black hole weapons and time travelling bullets , it wont stop till it hits the target from when it was born or it was weakest. BTW MOST vaults on Mars are still locked so in the future the Mechanicus will be able to recover STC's of black hole tech again . OH yeah I forgot about vortex grenades. BTW I forgot The Dark Eldar have Black hole weapons and they're the enemies of the Imperium... so The navy can handle such fighters since they've fought with tech like that before . Do some lore digging Bro :D

[@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847]

@@y.kazayaki3681 ...no. Thanks for the headache-free info. :D

[@theofficerfactory2625]

What of the UNCN? United Nations Cosmo Navy from Space Battleship Yamato 2199 and 2202?

[@alucard96FB]

10:35 Laughing in Gloriana class

[@Cipri001]

*laughs in Pride of Augustgrad-class*

[@SonsOfLorgar]

@@Cipri001 *laughs in Furious Abyss*

[@Cipri001]

@@SonsOfLorgar but is it as big as 30-40km? And can't it Warp jump at will at short distances with 99% accuracy? You know, when a gigantic ship just zips around the space battlefield.

[@admiralshadowofasunderedst3068]

Laughs in 100km fortress class

[@christiandauz3742]

@@Cipri001 The Zerg were able to destroy Battlecruisers with just one anti-air plant! Or a few Mutalisks!

[@enterprise-h312]

2:31 I don’t mind the Klingons (when they’re done right), but I do think that a faction like the Tholian Assembly (look up Chakuun ghostships for some nightmare fuel), Borg Collective, Dominion or Voth Gerontocracy would make for a better pick.

[@nickwilliams9392]

Your mother has a smooth forehead

[@GenerationFilms]

Oh hell no you did not just say that you dirty klingon

[@SgtRackhamm]

Awesome Series guys. Loved it. Shocked that the UNSC got second place though O.o Can't wait to see the next best of series

[@tacticalmarsupial6201]

With halo I will just say two words. NOVA bomb. That is all

[@imperialguardsmen8543]

Peter The Beast One word. EXTERMINATUS

[@tacticalmarsupial6201]

@@imperialguardsmen8543 fair enough

[@jian214100]

What about UNSPACY from the Macross series? Not only do you have the Destroids mech, but you also have the Valkyrie fighters.. not to mention the macross quarters and the full size battle macross ships... where's the representation of the anime navies?

[@nobleman9393]

I love democracy

[@fishyfinthing8854]

I wonder if Legend of the Galactic Heroes navies is also ranked, how strong are they? They have hundred thousands ships and 2 space fortresses that rival even the Death Star both in offense and defense.

[@Peter_Turbo4]

This but with mechs

[@tanith117]

You just want to see your glorious god machines step on the other mechs dont you.

[@fatboibrian9047]

Can you do a video where the unsc infinity goes up against the resurgent class battlecruiser

[@rangulfgimfang8322]

40k wins For the EMPEROR....

[@trey1460]

I think it would be really cool if you guys did a series on which factions or empires would make the strongest/best allies.

[@Aurica34]

This is rigged! Warhammer 40k wins?! Well.. of course ... the followers of the four armed emperor would reign supreme

[@namkha209]

What?! You DARE suggest that HE is NOT HUMAN in form?! HERETIC! THE EMPEROR'S FORM IS THE PINNACLE OF HUMAN EVOLUTION, AN THAT FORM ONLY HAS TWO ARMS!

[@jaelee1996]

Yes, Inquisitor. This comment here.

[@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847]

@@namkha209 Crybaby.

[@namkha209]

@@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847 r/wooosh

[@alexthehunted]

what about the dalek empire?

[@radopanchamu726halofanboi3]

OOOHHH YEAH!!!!! HALO! UNSC NUMBER 2 But at least the galactic empire is worser than that star wars crap!!!! BELIVE IN HALO THAT IT IS AWSOME!!!

[@somerandomguyfromthebeyond1821]

i see you are living up to your name

[@tigerhasnoend648]

How’s about space super soldiers, Astartes, mobile infantry, pilots, etc

[@hydrogenone6866]

I think Star Fleet should be lower on the list, they do have powerful technology, but are... really under prepared for war and can be militarily stupid. Thrawn would have a field day destroying the Federation.

[@NovoCognition]

It depends on when in the timeline you want to compare Starfleet. If you mean 22nd and 23rd centuries and the first 2/3 of the 24th century than yes. But after Post-Dominion War and Wolf-359 Starfleet has a massive military overhaul. In the 2360s there were only 2 possible 3 Galaxy Class Starships, but then you could see half a dozen be produced every few months in the 2370s. Similar to USA in WW2, they always had the industrial capabilities to do so but until then lack the catalyst or incentive to do so. 2380s Starfleet has they stop act like pseudo-paramilitary exploration force and start to act more like an actual military. Going into Beta Cannon sources like Star Trek Online that by the start of the 25th century Starfleet is a true military and ships like the Defiant-Class, Intrepid-Class, Sovereign-Class, and Prometheus-Class become mass produced to the point where battles with factions like the Borg are no longer one-sided fights but rather between almost evenly balanced combatants.

[@korben600]

Consider though, Starfleet is one of the most innovative groups on the list, and they have a very large number of competent mid-level officers. Say what you will of Starfleet upper command, but Starfleet Captains are second to none. Also, they're also the only faction on this list that is stable in the absence of an outside threat. Almost every other faction would fall apart in the absence of a common enemy, and/or a war, (and many *have*, literally half of the factions on this list collapsed without a war on the horizon) but when Starfleet doesn't need their warships anymore, they're happy to redeploy their ships right back to science and exploration. All of these factions can win a war, but only Starfleet can win the peace.

[@korben600]

@Dcard Dcardian A small scout force of what? The Imperium of Man has enough numbers for that to be a legitimate threat, but the rest of the factions on this list don't have the kind of firepower to back up that claim. Starfleet's track record on defense is a little lackluster, but only during the TNG era, and that comes back to their stability. Starfleet had been very effective at diplomacy and their efforts to make allies out of enemies prior to that point, and they didn't have any real threats until the Borg and the Dominion came around. After the Dominion War, I would argue that while keeping their diplomatic and scientific focus, Starfleet became an excellent military, whose their new, purpose built, warships could take on any other ship in their weight class.

[@korben600]

@Dcard Dcardian ...You do realize I literally said above "The Imperium of Man has enough numbers for that to be a legitimate threat, but the rest of the factions on this list don't have the kind of firepower to back up that claim." You just spent 355 words to explain something that I made it clear I was already aware of. I was arguing about the efficacy of Starfleet as an organization, and that it's combat abilities were under-estimated, not that it could take the Imperium of Man on in a 1v1 fight.

[@ironrussell1]

I would like to put forward a possible candidate for expanding the list of Navies there is a Japanese anime called Legend of the galactic heros. While the space warfare is human vs human the battles are quite large with ship verse ship engagements in the 10s of thousands of ships fighting each other. Somebody even made a you tube video highlighting the ships of the two navies. The remake of the series is very clean the ware fare is just dressing of bigger story plot elements. please consider adding this for future rework of this video.

[@Cipri001]

Terrans kinda suck!?! WHAT!?! According to the novels a Battlecruiser is 11km long and a Yamato cannon can one-shot a large city, each Battlecruiser carries thousands of (apocalypse-class) Nuclear warheads with which they can turn entire planets to glass. StarCraft is massively underrated in power and lore itself.

[@Cipri001]

@Lord Admiral Spire I don't think you realize how big cities in SC are. Look at Korhal. Also I listed some other stuff there

[@Cipri001]

@Lord Admiral Spire Korhal is planet-wide

[@johnathangoodwin3610]

Oh noes, not nuclear warheads. We're sooo afraiiidd. In all seriousness, nuclear warheads delivered by missiles are terrible (in comparison) weapon for use in space. Now, detonating inside an enemy ship is another matter. 1)Terran Battlecruisers had litterally 0 support fleet. That had nice fighters, and that was it. Straight to capital ships. 2) No shields. Almost any other faction would eat them alive. Frankly Halo UNSC should not have rated highly. I can get behind humanity, and the sheer will-to-survive the UNSC had, but on a ship to ship basis, no energy fields made them lose out. This applies to the Terrans. 3)FTL is literally laughable when compared to other species, even within the Starcraft Universe itself. Keep in mind that they suck in comparison, not that they don't suck compared to what we have in RL. That just isn't a fair comparison. Yes, were they powerful? Yup. No, they were not the strongest, by any means.

[@the_dropbear4392]

@@Cipri001 So are hive world. Imperium ships has weapons that crack continents in a single shot, strip gives down to the mantle ect

[@Redcomet19]

Lord Admiral Spire alright this is weird we have the same name and image

[@Parabueto]

As someone who's completed a Masters' Degree, I can very safely say I've put more time into watching Star Trek, playing related games and building models than it does take to do a full time Masters' degree. Admittedly spread out over many more years.

[@thomasglade9615]

Good the order hereticus of the inquisition is pleased

[@philltimothy4600]

There is still a bit of heresy in the comment section

[@roaringlaughter3812]

I have to mention shielding technology in the 40 k universe “void shields” rip a tear in the fabric of space so the shooty stuff from the enemy can literally never hit you the only solution you have is to ram your ship into it because you cant tear a hole that big because that would create a second eye of terror. Its not even grimdark its pitch black and 🥰

[@alphmar3778]

Yes, but they also do fail sometimes at more or less random times, and when they are down you are very very doomed

[@garysmith3037]

"Oh sure, humans voting human Navies above alien Navies...….created by humans...…..typical. Kind of like how you guys seem to continually win the Miss Universe contest every time as well?!" - message from space