5 of the BEST TRAINS EVER PART 8 | History in the Dark

[@kimpatz2189]

The Shinkansen really really saved the passenger rail travel apart from the subway metros. And as youve said, it can outrun a car and match the total travel time with planes in the 4hr time. That 4hrs time killed regional air travel whenever an HST line runs parallel to it. No airliner dares to challenge an HST under 4hrs travel. It cemented the HST to the modern times as a quick and convenient way to travel. It is still subpar above 4hrs travel time as the plane can now cover its time lost in the airport maze.

[@TheGs4_4449]

I love the 44 class. They are so cool! Australia also has some more locomotives that look like American EMDs, like the V Line S class.

[@buzzygaming7667]

we also have.... 930s 421s 42s As Bs GMs CLs CLPs CLFs and more

[@uscgtankerwhitmore8777]

Southern Short Haul railroad in Australia has a interesting loco roaster. A bunch of old locos on regular survice and new models coming in. Worth a look.

[@Tom-Lahaye]

It's worth mentioning the other similar classes built by Nohab for the railways of Norway (Di3) and Hungary (M61), and those built by the Belgian company AFB (Anglo Franco belge for the railways of Belgium (classes 52, 53 and 54) and Luxembourg (Class 1600) All of these were built to the same design but with differences in manufacturer of electrical gear, top speed, placement of lights, bogie design and many other small details. They were all powered by the non turbocharged EMD 16-567C or D engines, power output between 1600 and 1750hp. I have fond memories of those running in Belgium as late as 2002, often double or even tripple heading, with their loud exhausts they could be heard 30 minutes in advance on a cold winter night when tackling a steep incline with a heavy train.

[@White-Wolf1969]

Thank you for covering the 0 series Shinkansen, I was one of the people who recommended it, I think they were the best looking of the Shinkansens even if the newer ones are considerably faster.

[@AlongPreservedLines]

Great to see the L&YR getting more attention! Personally that company is my favourite and I feel it's criminally underrated! Great video as usual, love watching them!

[@angeloinfinity3054]

YES! an Italian victory! my work paid off! And it's one I've seen in person! BUT don't think I'm done! not until you talk about the E.428 and the Etr300 "Settebello"!

[@Brickticks]

YAY!!! This makes me happy to see such nice engines doing good work. Hatt’s off to you, really useful engines of the world, keep making us proud.

[@drdewott9154]

Neat stuff. As a Dane I'm really glad to see a Danish locomotive on here. The MY class (or Nohab AA16 as Nohab called it) was basically a straight adaptation of the EMD F7 for the European market. And though they left service on the state railways, there are still various in service to this day! Notably with Viking Rail and Contec Rail, both of whom run regular freight trains across Denmark. Alongside this there are also several owned by smaller Branch lines managed by the Regional Authorities. Theirs are mostly used for stuff like maintenance works, driver training, snow clearing, moving rolling stock to workshops or between lines, and for the occassional freight trains. My own local station has an MX (Nohab AA12) stationed there. On top of this several MY's and MX's are also still in service in Sweden as well as Germany amongst several freight operators. Though a few of these are also in preservation, including an MY locomotive at a local heritage society that specialises in 1970's era intercity trains. They use an MY with a special artist livery from the 80's, giving it the nickname "The Graffiti" and it was used for an ATCS trial by DSB in the late 80's and early 90's to experiment with self driving trains. The locomotive is MY 1126 and its sister engine for the trial, MX 1021 is also still in operation with a Swedish operator, still in the same livery. On top of that this little European F7 was also sold to more places. The Danish State Railways may have been the launch customer but versions were also sold to Norway, Belgium, Luxembourg, and pre-communist Hungary.

[@brianwelch-qq3ti]

Some other good choices, the JNR C62, (There's a reason why they're famous), the Eritrean 442 Mallet (Still working main line services, despite being in their 80s and 90s), and the GWR 5700, (They did build 863 of them)

[@White-Wolf1969]

Galaxy Express 999 is the biggest reason the C62 is famous, and they were the largest steam passenger locomotives japan ever made.

[@brianwelch-qq3ti]

@@White-Wolf1969 they also were really good engines

[@JackCarsonsRailroadVideos]

A suggestion for the next BTE Top 5, I have found a steam turbine locomotive 2-8-0 built by Fredrik Ljungström that was actually successful. Best part 3 are still around and at least one is Operational

[@matsv201]

Could just as well make a best loco ever sweden edition with the T43/T44, the steam turbine of cause, the Rc locos that apart from the 500 built in sweden also over 1000 licenses was built in Romania (ironically have already been featured)... Well one more?

[@RamTheGre721]

I love that you are doing the sweden-built MY(or s it is called here in Sweden TMY). I hope this is the start of more swedish locos like the rc or t44

[@neiloflongbeck5705]

The MY class was built by Frichs, this is the MY (II) class.

[@matsv201]

It's also the Norwegian Di3a and Di3b loco that is basically the same loco. Also worth saying that the TMX loco was a stand in for a American look a like loco I the movie dancer in the dark. Still it kind of strange that he done MY, The US RC version the Romanian RC version. But gave still not done the originals.

[@obelic71]

the Belgian (NMBS/SNCB) and Luxemburg railways (CFL) also had the same Nohab engines. And yes they were way above other classes of locomotives.

[@Lillstisse661]

​@@matsv201I have seen that loco from dance in the dark, it's stationed in Kristinehamn.

[@matsv201]

@@Lillstisse661 yupp.. its still around... I'm not sure. But I think it still is painted as in the movie.

[@JordysRailVideos]

The 44's had a broad gauge cousin in South Australia which is the 930 class

[@dylanweston3837]

Hello from Australia 🇦🇺 you should do a video on the victorian railways k class and some of the steamrail locos

[@obelic71]

One 0 series motorcar of the Shinkansen is at the National Railway museum at York. She represents a milestone in railroad history. We can only bow to the grandfather of highspeed rail.

[@glengreen362]

Speaking of the 44 class NSWGR diesels, it reminds me of when the Flying Scotsman visited Australia. I was living in Acacia Ridge at the time and on my day off I took my wife and young son down to the Beaudesert Road level crossing to see the train on the Interstate rail line. Just before the visiting locomotive came through a 44 class diesel pulled a NSW train through. The diesel's number was 4472. So I got to see two 4472's pulling trains into Brisbane that day.

[@lukechristmas3951]

Another Mr. Worldwide video here. Australia, Italy, Denmark, UK and Japan. I think the first three locomotives featured here are classic and beautiful in design.

[@vaclavmacgregor2464]

Danish steam and disel!(E CLASS(AMONG THE LARGEST LOCOMOTIVE MADE FOR DENMARK),MY CLASS AND),shinkasen(oBviuosly)

[@Tiger351]

Going back to the 80's there were heaps of 44 class locomotives based at Broadmeadow yard in NSW near where I lived at the time, they were the main motive power for mixed freight trains on the main northern line well into the 2000's.

[@williamsquires3070]

Wow! The NSW 44 class looks a LOT like an Alco PA! Even the trucks (bogies) look similar. The giveaway is the rounded headlamp housing; the PA has a more squarish, angled housing with a grille on the front.

[@Sunglobe6029]

I volunteer with 3 of the preserved 44 class. 3 were scrapped 6 months ago, 5 are operational under preservation and one is in commercial service.

[@matsv201]

The MY is certainly still in mainline service. They have been upgraded with digital controll and are now called TMY. 17 was upgraded. Also 11 MX was upgraded.

[@drdewott9154]

Yeah, the Swedish ones are called that since its Swedish practise to put a T in front of the designation for diesel locomotives. But we also still have a lot of MY's and especially MX's in service in Denmark for freight by operators like Viking Rail, Contec Rail, and various smaller operators having a few of their own for driver training, rolling stock moves, maintenance works, snow plowing, and occassionally freight trains. A few MY's now even operate freight services in Germany.

[@matsv201]

@@drdewott9154 IS the danish also upgraded to do multiengines?

[@drdewott9154]

@@matsv201 You mean having multiple engines inside each unit, or the ability to operate several locomotives from one unit? Because afaik all the MY's including the Swedish ones still feature their original engines. And most of the Danish ones, and iirc all still in use have the ability to run in multiple. The demand is definitely still here. Heck Viking Rail (formerly CFL Cargo Denmark) even imported some locomotives from Luxembourg which have the same EMD prime movers as the MY's and were built in Belgium as a design based upon the MY's.

[@matsv201]

@@drdewott9154 well. I was a bit unclear. The old T44 can only do multiple wirh it self RC and a few other old locos. TD2 the upgraded t44 can run with modern locos as well.

[@gregrudd6983]

Of all the railways in the world that ran the Alco DL500's The NSWGR/PTC/SRA 44 class were the hardest worked and pushed to their sheer limits, a true statement to the quality of their design. In service they proved to be cheaper to own and operate than the equiv EMD loco's of the same era.

[@liamhiley3758]

I’ve got two suggestions which you could use for a future one both from the NSW railways. The 48 class which still has active members in regular service and was built around the same time as the 44 class. The second one is the Z19 class which operated for nearly 100 years

[@swedishlevelcrossingchanne2745]

Nice! Was driving a TMY/MY today😁

[@ronik24]

6:00 it should be added that Hungary also received 20 "NOHAB"s (that is what they are commonly referred to). Which is especially notable as this was the first engine from the West delivered to an Eastern Bloc country. Several of the Danish NOHABs are still in duty around Central Europe, mainly for maintenance train work, but also private freight companies. Hungarian MÁV has preserved quite a lot of NOHABs which regularly haul charter trains, e.g.: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqPZgJedoNqnjc0 9:05 one Shinkansen 0 series leading vehicle can also be seen in England, at the National Rail Museum in York.

[@Sacto1654]

The 0 Series Shinkansen *WAS* revolutionary because nobody thought they could make an electrical multiple unit (EMU) train go that fast. Once the full-speed service between Tokyo and Osaka started in March 1965, the ability to travel between those two cities in 3 hours 10 minutes one-way revolutionized travel in that country.

[@Bragbigfoot_2]

Hidd: talks about Italian train in a good way All Italians at 2:55 : FORZA ITALIAAAAA!!!!!

[@ender8850]

You def. need to add the german BR 218 to this. Serving for over 60 years now!

[@MorpheusMF]

Oh yes, not to forgot the class 132 too. Serving since 1970.

[@matsv201]

Is 60 year old? Our rc locos is just about to turn 60.. we consider them just normal locos. Also the T43 and T44 about the same age. The we have the Ra and F locos that is almost as good that is about 70.

[@solarflare623]

Suggestion for next part: DRG br 52. Over 7000 of these steam locomotives were built during ww2 and they weren’t retired until 1988!

[@crazycreeper399]

Do a top five best monorails list

[@MrP4n]

The 44 class still does revenue freight, out at Junee on the bomen shuttles the company QUBE runs 4497 regularly

[@dragonheatgaming5005]

That L&Y loco that you showed used to run on my local, now demolished line. The line wasn't closed by beeching it was because of subsidence

[@robertalbertson889]

You're a crazy man! Therefore I love you haha😂😂 Keep up the great work

[@k5rjtxj]

Can we just agree the EMD knew/knows how to build a good diesel electric?

[@4201productions]

FINALLY SOMEONE APPRECIATES THE HYPER-RELIABLE NSWGR 44 CLASS! (sorry I just love these things and also most 44 classes are being bought and rebuilt for independent railways and are back in mainstream service)

[@Shunteration]

Speaking of NOHAB, you can also include the MÁV M61 class, since they were basically the same locomotive, and basically have a cult status over here. Drivers and railway staff loved them, passengers adored them (which was also helped by the fact that they frequently pulled the summertime trains to the beach resorts on lake Balaton's southern shores (well, before the line was electrified), and their presence in communist Hungary, as imports from (nominally) neutral (but still capitalist) Sweden made the Soviets *so mad* that they've literally designed and built the M62 class of diesels, specifically for the Hungarian State Railways... But then, it turned out, that in their effort to one-up the Swedes and make sure that there would be NO NEED for capitalist imports, they actually managed to build the M62s so _well_ that they could export it to all over the socialist bloc, from East Germany to North Korea, and even use it on the Soviet railways as well (after re-gauging, of course). So, NOHAB not only built an excellent locomotive, but their existence also led to the creation of another very good locomotive class. I guess you could have have the M61s and the M62s in the next list as weird twofer, since they're completely different locomotive classes, but still linked together this way. Oh, and for the record: people also loved the M62s, but for a different reason than the M61s. While the M61 "Nohabs", as they were nicknamed, were liked for being smooth and reliable runners, the M62 "Sergeis" were liked for being robust and very powerful, being the most powerful diesels on Hungarian rails until the introduction of the domestically-built M63s. In essence, if the M61 was like a beloved sports car, the M62 was like a *tank* - people would stop and stare if either drove by. Though the M62s definitely sounded like tanks, too.

[@mihaelalaber2084]

Great video! It would be cool to see a Yugoslavian steamer on this list some day, perhaps the class 22 or class 11!

[@MachRacer4]

Well, in the NSW class 44’s, the Alco 251 prime mover was a very reliable prime movers. They’re even still being made today by Fairbanks-Morse. The prime movers I mean. And the Number 3 on the list, looked like a 6 axle BR Class 42 with plows and ditch lights.

[@buzzygaming7667]

44s are also the same as the SAR 930s :)

[@juletid99]

You should take a look at the DSB class K and E. Two of the most beloved classes of Steam Locomotives by the DSB.

[@0fficialdregs]

i love the bullet train.

[@alessandrok.9684]

You NEED to do some swiss locos!!!

[@GreenBullProductions]

Not onlywas the NSWGR 44class the face of nsw rails but the little humble 48 class another alco product that was the backbone of the railway 🛤

[@harrisonallen651]

A New South Wales locomotive, yay!

[@OleJanssen]

Maybe you could cover the German BR 120 at some point in the future?

[@koppadasao]

What's said about DSB MY also goes for NSB Di 3

[@TB76Returns]

Next one for the next Top 5 is the British Rail Class 158, which is one of the best DMUs that runs on the UK network!

[@True_NOON]

Ill down(chug for chug with some breathers) an intire bottle of beer when theres the episode of best trains featuring BR 10800 and worst trains featuring the Class 47(or better)

[@ducky_the_helper]

The 44 class are part of the alco world series locos you can see examples of world Locos in other countries

[@Raketenmaulwurf]

For your next Best Trains Ever list I got another one that is usually flying under the radar: the narrow gauge locomotive type IV K (the 4-K) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxon_IV_K The first ones where built in 1892 and the last ones where officially retired in 1994 which makes the class itself being in service for an outstanding 102 years! Many of them are still in service on narrow gauge heritage lines all over Germany and back when they entered service they REVOLUTIONISED narrow gauge train services as they were incredibly powerful for their size but due to being articulated they were incredibly maneuverable for the often curvy lines they were used at. And to be honest.. they are some of the CUTEST locomotives you have EVER seen...

[@LancashireAndYorkshire]

If you haven't done them already, I recommend the terriers. Served from 1872 to 1963

[@0fficialdregs]

Darkness could you do a video of your favorite long distance locomotives, switcher locomotive, and what locomotive would you choose to pull a premier train?

[@ChuteMi-df2es]

Have you featured Canadian locomotives in any of your previous videos? I'm relatively new to the channel and only just joined your Patreon the other week.

[@Iron-Griffon]

9:09 RAVAGED!? THEY DID THE RAVAGING!!!

[@hunterstearns5594]

Can you talk about the Maine central railroad, please

[@diedampfbrasse98]

nice locomotives, sure .. but when talking about doing their original job for a really long time very few could beat the "mighty" Martens’sche Einheitsliliputlok ... which still operate across europe in a few cities (one even is in India/Delhi) doing the job they were designed for. My hometown got two build in 1925 still running (with very few breaks throughout history) and ofc they will soon have their 100th birthday.

[@maxtivey32]

I actually watched 4461 and 4471 being cut up, around 12 months ago. 😢 And the pic of 4403 is taken where I live.

[@emilioi.valdez6680]

I have an idea. Put Worst Trains Ever on hiatus until Best Trains ever has the same number of videos.

[@antigod8385]

suggestion: the british rail class 313, 315, 317 and 508/507 also the british rail class 165/166

[@matsv201]

If the trains are double ended or not have more to do if they pull heavy loads or not. There are single ended locos in Europe, russia and India to.. well.. and austrialia have alot of them. On the west Coast in the US double ended locos is also quite common.

[@thesudricmerman3318]

If you plan to do a steam locomotive that where nearly scrap but where saved then NER Q6 63295 is good choose considering it only saved as br diesel driver never turned up to take it to scrap yard giving north eastern locomotive preservation socity time to buy it from the BR

[@jappedut9009]

Some MY's are still in service by CLR in Germany in their original DSB livery ❗️

[@ashleycordery2976]

Can you please add the mallard to one of these lists. She's the record holder of the fastest steam engine in the world. And she's british. Also the Steven rocket. With out the rocket almost all stem engines may have ended up very different.

[@willsen8908]

Many MY locomotives are still in Freight service to this day, and some operate excursion trains

[@matsv201]

Yea.. the "inlandsbanan" luxury train is often pulled by the swedish conversion. And while the train is sort of inspired by a past time, it's not really a legacy train.

[@AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014]

1:43, we’ll also in Canada and Mexico. Perhaps even all of North America

[@robertwilloughby8050]

I see the L&Y Class 5! (or, if it's superheated, Class 6) Possibly the greatest British tank engine of all time (honourable mentions to the GWR 14X Class, LMS 4MT 2 Cylinder 2-6-4T tanks, LSWR M7 0-4-4T tanks, LNER V1 and V3 2-6-2T tanks and the GCR A5 4-6-2T tanks.)

[@Apollad2]

Any odds of an Australian themed list of this? Considering we just had Steamfest a few weeks ago which included a steam train race, okay, more of a show race but still.

[@SouRwy4501Productions]

The name “Museo Nazionale Scienza e Technologia Leonardo da Vinci” literally translates out to “Leonardo da Vinci National Museum of Science and Technology”, and is pronounced exactly as it looks.

[@buzzygaming7667]

930s are actually the exact same as the SAR 930 class, if you want to cover more aussie bulldogs we've always got S classes GMs CLs/CLFs/CLPs 421s 42s and more

[@SteveScotsman]

Most likely that museum is Lenardo De Vinci National Museum of Science and Technology. (Best guess)

[@formulahbupz9211]

Hello could you try to find a good steam engine from France for your next best trains video pls

[@Sunglobe6029]

Oooooo 44 class

[@TotoDG]

"The UK, in particular, was always really good at tank engines." People who remember the E2: "You sure about that, bro?"

[@danielbedrossian5986]

I never, and still don't see anything "surprised" expression in the Nohabs' faces. They are nice and friendly looking. Some are still in use in my country,Hungary along side the socalled Sergeye. In fackt, I don't even see replacements at the disel locomotives, while the electricks have many Traxx and Taurus replacments.

[@joshjones3408]

EMD scared by a mouse 🐀 😆😆 it does look like it👍👍👍

[@pfgc-plasticoferroviarioge3711]

Finally an italian loco (i think)

[@alexbind8347]

Ed è la gr 691 fs.

[@pfgc-plasticoferroviarioge3711]

@@alexbind8347 in tutta la sua bellezza

[@Nlangkirby135]

The DSB Class MY and MX almost looks like a Deltic locomotive, but more bulldog like.

[@markstott6689]

Just a thought, but why not do a video on the 5 oldest surviving engines? I just watched an episode of "Curator with a Camera" on Old Coppernob. It's another that I haven't given enough attention to.

[@lojored802]

There is a 0 series at the national railway museum York

[@TheOriginalJphyper]

Interesting trivia fact: China was still using steam engines in normal revenue service right up until last year. The last steam engine to be built (an SY-Class) rolled off the assembly line in 1999. Coal is so cheap and plentiful there that it was cheaper to stick with steam.

[@johnd8892]

The design basis of the MY was the Victorian Railways B class of 1952. But better being still working and having all axles powered rather than the centre idler axles of most of the NOHAB types. Three of the 1953 built B class running in secondary grain train service just recently : kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKbWdJVqas6NgLc Many others preserved and some to be frequently be seen on fan trips in the classic blue and gold livery. Outlasting the larger numbers of the newer NSW 44 class in work done. The SSR even being a NSW based company recognise the quality of the B class.

[@nicholasbyrne6485]

Can you find some Queensland Rail trains to comment on?

[@candycrushhater5828]

At some point, I would like to see you do a second list of worst cars ever. There are plenty of garbage cars to talk about, such as the Yugo GV, the AMC Gremlin, the Reliant Robin, the DMC-12 “DeLorean”, and the Pontiac Aztek. The latter would make a good add-on to a list of disturbingly ugly cars. Just offering a non-train-related video idea to you, is all.

[@Dannyedelman4231]

FP45

[@MattB1792]

Ah, the original Shinkansen. The being of modern Highspeed Rail.

[@matsv201]

Ironically all the closely following high speed trains like tgv and ice was built with power heads, would take all the time to 2000 untill the first compearing emu was built (outside of shinkansen)

[@musanaufalassyurakurniawan1624]

I love Indonesian steam trains ( because i am a Indonesian) can one of the Indonesian steam train go into your list ? Like CC50

[@fredrikfltre9268]

Do you have a good norwegan train???

[@cameronebert4454]

Pardon me for being unrelated, but I would like Darkness himself to know that Alfred Perlman doesn’t exist in my fictional universe (allowing more NYC steamers to survive including two Hudsons and four Niagaras) and for him to do a video of that psychopath reacting to this very comment if you know what I mean.

[@tristanexists1806]

Cool we didn't ask 😎

[@cameronebert4454]

Well, I did enjoy those rampage moments with Perlman and I thought it would be fun to let Darkness know that he doesn’t exist in my fictional universe, so that he could probably make a video where that maniac of a railroad president reacts to that comment before being erased from existence.

[@kiankier7330]

of course, the first Danish train on this channel is one of them based on a US train.

[@johnd8892]

The Victorian Railways B class diesel of 1952 definitely enabled NOHAB to develop the MY types easily. Less known and less recorded is how the L&Y class 5 at 6:06 may have been influenced by the L&Y having a long working relationship with Kitson of Leeds. In the years before the class 5 Kitson had produced the Victorian Railways E class 2-4-2 tank engine and this Kitson series of standardised designs for the Victorian Railways was extensively covered in the engineering journals of the time. A VR E class on Royal Train duties in 1901 was one of the earliest filmed scenes in Victoria: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oIHQc2R9lt6AoKc They were used on the intensive Melbourne suburban services as seen at Richmond in 1910 : kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWbde3mGd6uar9U They rapidly became surplus after the 1919 electrification so they were converted to 0-6-2T shunting engines as part of the plan to match the earlier purpose built EE shunters. Film of an EE conversion near the end of normal service in 1968 around the 12:45 mark of this film : kzbin.info/www/bejne/g2PFlGuEadh_bNE The L&Y had near identical Kitson built 0-6-2 tank engines scrapped by 1930.

[@neiloflongbeck5705]

That's a DSB MY (II) class not the MY class.

[@willsen8908]

The othere MY (which were two diesels produced in Denmark by Frichs) were really terrible

[@javiermedina9080]

Spain when ? PLEASE….. CAN WE SPAIN AGAIN…. in any list.

[@johnathonmcjohn3]

Yo can u talk about brazillian locomotives pls

[@markstott6689]

I've seen L&Y R 1008 many times and paid it little attention, unfortunately. This is down to not being a fan of tank engines. Next time I'll give it more time.

[@wdubbelo]

2.40 netherlands hold my beer NS 2200 NS 2400 NS 1200 NS 1300

[@RailPreserver2K]

"What do you me doc all the best stuff comes from japan"

[@williamsquires3070]

(@6:53) - It looks like a small lion is sticking its head out the cab window. Now while I’ve seen lions, eagles, griffons, and other creatures depicted on heraldry, I’ve never seen a lion try to operate a steam locomotive! Must be some new, British fad. 🤣😆

[@theaccountofmine.8779]

I think you should cover the Great Northern Railway(of Ireland) V class 4-4-0 compounds. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNRI_Class_V Having seen the preserved one, no.85 , I feel like they’re really something special. Now I may be a bit biased since it is the only working steam loco I’ve ever seen but eh who cares.

[@hoodlumrocknroll1]

The Italian 691-022 is on static display at rough translation Museum of Science and Technology Leonardo Da Vinci.