@dany mustang 2 homebuilt. But you dont want to fly more than 4 hours at a time without stopping it gets a little rough.
@mattivirta5 жыл бұрын
40K home build no newer max need be 10-20K only if need build in home too. ready to use can buy 40 000
@TheDrakulie5 жыл бұрын
how does this handle in severe thunderstorm ?
@mattolmstead61505 жыл бұрын
@@TheDrakulie just like any plane you will avoid any Cumulonimbus clouds and convective activity
@Citizen-of-theworld5 жыл бұрын
This video flows better at 1.25x speed. Give it a try.
@OverKilL4135 жыл бұрын
You are right thats normal 😂
@ltphilipg5 жыл бұрын
More like 2x lol
@cyrix1655 жыл бұрын
But then he is high pitched
@_sp00kyb0i_5 жыл бұрын
At .75x he sounds like hes drunk or on sedatives lol
@backcant77575 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Ball yeah
@DavidLGood6 жыл бұрын
Wow. A Top 5 video that isn't click bait or stolen advertisements compiled together. A legitimate Top 5 video that actually delivers great content and has reasoning behind the list. This is what Top 5 videos should be like. THANK YOU!
@cobytheq17186 жыл бұрын
Your so right dude😂👍🏻
@fish84506 жыл бұрын
172 likes, ironic :)
@nffctv1845 жыл бұрын
I was a bit disappointed that the Antonov 225 was not on there
@srinivasans54295 жыл бұрын
Joseph G 123 YT hahahahah
@ansterling5225 жыл бұрын
I just saw this comment has 666 likes
@Saad-bz2hx6 жыл бұрын
I’m 16, waiting to be 17 and literally counting everyday just so i could apply for my PPL. I been saving up for 4 years now and i just want to achieve my dream, as much as people make fun of my dreams and call it “ out of reach “ i still believe in myself, stay positive people and pray for me hehe :P UPDATE: i'm 18 now, i got my PPL almost 3 weeks ago, me and a friend bought a Cessna 152 and we are having ALOT of fun every time we fly over the city, there's something magical about it and every time we take off there's a feeling i can't even describe.. i want to tell anyone reading this, please don't ever give up.. time will take care of things as long as you're working for them. thank you guys for your prayers.
@Luna-im2sf5 жыл бұрын
GL!
@Gringo_Lingo5 жыл бұрын
That’s good you’re focused at your age! Back when I was 17 my dreams were convoluted, and I wish I would have buckled down and focused on aviation while I had scholarships. Now is the best time to pursue aviation!
@atomictrash27845 жыл бұрын
So, have you got it yet?
@4franz45 жыл бұрын
@@atomictrash2784 good question
@captain22944 жыл бұрын
Pilot-respect
@Bodhidata6 жыл бұрын
I bought a C150 for under $20K. My first annual? $450 owner assist. My insurance? $475/yr. Tiedown? $75/mo. Gas? 5 gal/hr. So while you narrow minded naysayers are attempting to show how much you know about why these planes won't work I'm actually doing it and having the time of my life flying over you while you wallow in negativity. C ya! Wouldn't want to be ya!
@LordDice16 жыл бұрын
Eric Woods Tyson thank you☺
@magic34006 жыл бұрын
Eric Woods Tyson thank you☺
@Bodhidata6 жыл бұрын
My insurance allows me to charge up to 4 named pilots at no extra charge. Also when you leaseback to my flight school we pay the $350/mo insurance, tiedown, 100 hour inspections and give you $500/month on a Cherokee 140.
@BattleshipMan_6 жыл бұрын
Eric Woods where did you buy the 150?
@SKRUBL0RD6 жыл бұрын
5 gallons an hour is still around $25 an hour and you can go what, 130 mph and your max range is what 400 miles? A car may be half as slow but it's far cheaper and far safer and you don't need special permissions every time you want to leave and arrive.
@doranjaffas96456 жыл бұрын
There are many viable aircraft out there for an average man or woman to afford IF they really want to. These include factory as well as homebuilt aircraft. For the sake of perspective I will define 'average" by my standards..$35,000.00 -$50,000.00. Flying does not have to be expensive but it take money and priority. It is not like so many " hobbies" that you can set aside and the expense goes away. Entry level license will take from $ 4K to 10K. This can be paid over time throughout training.This is a basic license. Add endorsements and rating and up you go expense wise all the way around in the form of staying current. A basic but good airplane can be had for the previously mentioned prices and go waaay up to infinity but again we are talking about average income pilots doing thus for personnel reasons..not commercial. If you have an airplane...metal or fabric covered...hangar it. A lot of folks tie down outside but over a much shorter period of time wear results and that cost more than hangar rent in the long run. Also..amature built does not necessarily mean less expensive in any form though if you are familiar with how an airplane is built or are willing to learn..their cost can be offset to varying degrees. ALL aircraft require maintenance..no exceptions. Let's do a break down of sorts. Aircraft .. $22,000.00 Hangar....$100.00 to $300.00 per month. Fuel....... $3.00 to $6.00 per gallon...5 to 10 gph fuel burn. Oil...$3.00 to $8.00 per quart General maintenance on tires..brakes..engine...airfeame can be from $15.09 per hour to over $50.09 per hour depending on different factors such as engine manufacturer..time on engine and airframe..care from previous owners etc. These figures include fixed expenses for yearly aircraft inspections. Flight review every 2 years.. $209.00 to $500.00 ( high side). These are basic rounded figures and that being said..will scare a lot of people...Now..to justify them...sort of. If you want to fly...how passionate are you? Instead of a moderately priced car...there is your airplane...instead of smoking and Friday nights..there is your hangar and maintenance....instead of eating out everyday for work...pack a lunch and snacks ..there is your flight time. If you have other hobbies that you don't want to give up to fly then you have made your decision and that is good for you. If you have some interests that you are willing to cut back on it trade for your desire to fly...then you might just find a whole new world of perspective of family and friends that share your passion and will change your life and experiences forever. Welcome to the clouds, flyin breakfasts, new horizons, sunsets and sunrises. WELCOME TO FLYING.
@kalmian6 жыл бұрын
Doran Jaffas Well said Sir! Well said.
@doranjaffas96456 жыл бұрын
Kal Mian Forgot I wrote that. Thanks. The 09 was supposed to be 00. type error but again.. thanks. I flew my Cygnet SF2A this past Sunday. First flight since December here in Michigan. Still can't get the grin off my face😀😀😀
@carloko086 жыл бұрын
waaaa, dude, you convinced me, I will buy my plane in the future, but its engine will be electric, I do not want fuel or oil or dammed maintenance crap in my plane
@ninthcloud63316 жыл бұрын
Wow my guy. I'm 28 and this is a goal for me by 35. Holy carp! This comment truly inspires me. I don't have a license yet but your few words really put this in perspective for me and the sky ahead. I appreciate it. And I'm excited to begin discovering the great blue yander!
@steved.16985 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Now I certainly will buy a plane!
@Adam-de8jm6 жыл бұрын
The Cessna 150 is lierally the ford ranger of the sky.
@AviationJeremy6 жыл бұрын
Well built, light, easy to use and maintain, a solid engine, lasts forever, and discontinued by the manufacturer but still going strong... you aren't far off!
@mwh821086 жыл бұрын
mango ford rangers suck! they wont pull jetski. fix or repair daily ford!
@blackdeath4eternity6 жыл бұрын
i didn't think you had to pull the fenders off a Cessna to change spark plugs?...
@ok-hd4so6 жыл бұрын
i used to tow a 16 foot fiberglass bass boat with a ranger
@russwilson23056 жыл бұрын
A Ford Ranger steers like a pig.
@craigresponds25046 жыл бұрын
Anything made in the 70's will have maint costs. It's part of the fun. Think positive, be happy, live life. I was made in the '60's and I have maint. costs too!!
@randyfarris26456 жыл бұрын
craig responds a
@alfonsom82866 жыл бұрын
@john wayne gacey , lmao
@videorowtv51985 жыл бұрын
Ok boomer
@cw937115 жыл бұрын
Aircraft have annuals on maintenance each year so they are in pretty good shape. Plus he left off on on any aircraft you buy you have a certified aircraft mechanic power plant and airframe go over the entire aircraft and then a commercial pilot certified in that model of plane fly it to make sure their are no issues. Yes it's 1000 to 2000 dollars depending on where the plane is but better then buying a hunk of noon flying junk
@lyleswan66713 жыл бұрын
amen brother!!
@Quasihamster6 жыл бұрын
So no A380 then? Pity...
@sergiofreitas93686 жыл бұрын
lmao
@lukechong49886 жыл бұрын
Nah man I was hoping for an F-18 ;)
@moeali81816 жыл бұрын
The A380 is on his next video of planes under $20-000
@andy.connor.e88536 жыл бұрын
A380 is for poor people.
@atexan54496 жыл бұрын
No
@madlyawww6 жыл бұрын
Just go to your local airport...... A lot of airports sell used aircraft. At my local airport there is a 152 for 11,000.
@carlosdanger46486 жыл бұрын
No Name I live right by the airport when I drive by the airport I see planes at the airport, sometimes the airport airplanes are for sale at the airport
@click2viewnow6 жыл бұрын
what airport
@yougotpassedbyagirl6 жыл бұрын
wow that's awesome
@johnwighton6 жыл бұрын
Yes that is possible. But it will be on condition (engine over 2000 hrs) and probably need avionics or other work. Think $20k as a min for a decent type approves aircraft.
@AlphaGolf16 жыл бұрын
No Name that 152 is probably an unairworthy death trap.
@Michaelengelmann5 жыл бұрын
What does that mean, "its forgiving" Me: *hits plane out of rage Me: " oh, I'm so sorry baby" Plane: "it's ok, I forgive you". *. *It’s a joke
@jammer36185 жыл бұрын
I will assume this is an honest question. It means if you screw up as a pilot, the plane is easier to recover.
@KerbalChris5 жыл бұрын
It means the plane wants to correct itself, this is because of the stable nature of high wing designs also you won’t need the extra maintenance on fuel pumps because the fuel can flow fine using gravity
@L0stEngineer5 жыл бұрын
Both Cessna 172 and Cessna 152 are statically and dynamically stable. If you are in a bad spot, let go of the controls and the plane will sort itself. In other words, the plane isn't trying to kill you.
@tianzining4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the question and all the comments. I thought it was my English problem. Now I’m totally understand.
@mdynasty82194 жыл бұрын
Me: that damage is beyond allowable limits per 43.13.-1A/1B and Amm. Thats gonna cost ya
@bruceruttan606 жыл бұрын
This is a well done presentation. Well written, very good camera work and the speaker does a fine job. The information is accurate and thoughtful and overall, it's close to a five, out of five.
@damianketcham4 жыл бұрын
Cessna 150/152: taking bird strikes in the rear since the 1950s.
I literally flew one backwards C-150 8355U(ground speed anyway)during private pilot check ride in 95. Really windy day 25 knots gusting to 35 straight down runway that day. Examiner gave me headings and altitudes during foggle or instrument part of practical exam, and said "ok look outside now" I looked at ground and we were flying backwards(in relationship to ground speed). It was pretty freaking cool!
@JWH-016 жыл бұрын
I owned a Cessna 172 for a number of years. It was a blast! I flew it to 14 states. The 172 is easy to fly and is the cheapest way to stay in the air. The fixed gear and fixed prop lowers the maintenance and insurance cost. As others have commented on, yes there are maintenance costs. You can dramatically reduce this cost if you are willing to get your hands dirty. Find a mechanic that does free lance work instead of going to the FBO for your annual inspections. There are plenty of mechanics doing work on the side for extra cash. Do as much maintenance yourself as the FAA allows. It is cheaper and you learn a lot about how the plane is built. This makes you a safer pilot. I fail to understand why fewer people are learning to fly each year. It is much more relaxing and fun to fly your own plane than to drive the interstates or fly commercial.
@deweyunknown37456 жыл бұрын
John Hempel I would think some of it is the economy the past several years and maybe the millennial factor similar to what’s happening in the motorcycling world. Also stats says large portion of millennials aren’t interested in even getting a drivers license!
@nathanmurray28916 жыл бұрын
Could the average person be able to afford a 172?
@jhill60336 жыл бұрын
This is a brand new world for me, how much was your insurance?
@ryansraven5 жыл бұрын
Barely afford rent these days, no good jobs anymore. I had to sell my motorcycle because I couldn’t afford the insurance anymore. Don’t know if it’s cheaper down in the States or not. But in Ontario, Canada it’s getting to hard.
@toadman5065 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, Do your own Oil Changes, get an A/P that will let you do basics, and sign off on it, and for an annual, do all of the Prep work yourself so all the A/P has to do is come in and do the inspection and you save a boatload of money.
@1aday20086 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I have a C150 and upgraded it to be IFR because of Northern California weather. After owning it for 18 years, I am considering selling due to health. It was nice to see your video and makes me wish for my younger days.
@appleanthony6 жыл бұрын
P and S how much were you thinking about selling it for? A few of my buddies were thinking about buying a C150 for flight training and time building.
@1aday20086 жыл бұрын
Its worth about 26k. Has about 100hrs SMOH. Full IFR. I would like to get 20k. I have invested over 30k in avionics and engine overhaul. prosharealty at gmail com
@1aday20086 жыл бұрын
anime equals douchebag. Email is in above post. We will consider. As the video shows these are great planes.
@lawrencehenson84943 жыл бұрын
@@1aday2008 still have it? lehenson@msn com
@keegansponholz92606 жыл бұрын
Heck Yes! Can't go wrong with a 150/152. I did all of my private training in a 1976 152 and I fell in love with it. Great little airplanes.
@747-pilot6 жыл бұрын
Yes, I will gladly second that!!! Did my training in a 1978 152. In some ways, I like it more than the school's 4 172s. They have a 2006 172SP, which I've flown a few times with an instructor, and it feels like I'm getting into a Rolls Royce with expensive leather, after having flown the 152! 😃 .....but still the lighter, "crisper" 152 feels like more "fun" and "nimble" to fly!
@DFX2KX6 жыл бұрын
The only aircraft I ever got to actually fly (Young Eagles back in the day) was a 150. You can be pretty short and still see over the instrument panel, which is nice! (alas, the eyes are junk, so I can't get a PPL)
@lunarsolis81094 жыл бұрын
I’ve been playing Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 and now I want a Cessna 172
@pilotandy_com6 жыл бұрын
I got my Warrior for 20k. Sure there are maintenance costs, but I got it for under 30k. And it is SO FUN to fly!
@davidakshay76026 жыл бұрын
Andrew Craner is that easy to ride ?? how to get liscence for that bro?
@gregorysvitavsky65056 жыл бұрын
I'm a welder and thinking about building an airplane... Idk what I'm getting myself into
@pilotandy_com6 жыл бұрын
David - The piper warrior is very easy to fly, just get with an instructor and get going! They'll walk you through the entire process. Plan on around $7500 and 2 to 6 months.
@pilotandy_com6 жыл бұрын
Gregory - Having a welding background will definitely be beneficial, but the majority of an aircraft is riveted together. If I were to build an airplane, I'd go with a Vans RV. www.vansaircraft.com/public/rv-building.htm Pick the plane you want for the mission you will be flying, and have fun!
@Campsnowcactus6 жыл бұрын
Join the Experimental Aircraft Association and you will find out everything you need to know. Go to Oshkosh air show.
@chanceg12185 жыл бұрын
as an A&P student / Assistant, the 150(2) is crazy easy to do Annuals on.
@7478captain4 жыл бұрын
How about the 172?? Just as easy, or at least close??
@Hobberhawk6 жыл бұрын
I actually just bought the exact Warrior in the video. N1776J
@0justLook6 жыл бұрын
so how was the video's estimate of cost? Please share with us. Along with unexpected costs?
@Hobberhawk6 жыл бұрын
0justLook $21,500 for the plane. $8,700 for the IFR radio upgrades.
@mothman-jz8ug6 жыл бұрын
Congrats on getting your own plane, and I wish you many years of safe flying. (I hope you were not in the majority of trolls..Oops, I meant "commenters"... who think the video title said "Airplanes you can buy, maintain, overhaul, insure, and keep fuel in for life under $30,000".)
@Hobberhawk6 жыл бұрын
Sassy The Sasquatch the little low wing. White with redish orange striping on the body and winga
@Slippindisc6 жыл бұрын
Brendan Hobson cool tail number. ‘Murica
@imthefuckinglizardking45906 жыл бұрын
I helped a friend get a little 142 flight worthy and he bought it for 10grand and put about 200 bucks in parts in it. It's got half an old vw bug motor literally a 4cyl boxer cut in half. Pretty crazy
@crazylegoarmy6 жыл бұрын
im thefuckinglizardking lol nice username
@Michael-hc6rg6 жыл бұрын
i also heard about a guy that built his own WWI replica biplane using a lawnmower engine
@Araye6 жыл бұрын
I don't understand the hate you receive. I think this video does exactly what it claims to do, gives five examples of planes you can pick up for $30k. "But what about maintenance??? RRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!" I don't even understand this argument. Anyone in the market knows used aircraft aren't like used cars off some dealer's lot and will require some additional costs to make the bird airworthy. SMH
@remihumanantium32826 жыл бұрын
Well, I neither don't understand. However, the same video including yearly budget (even approximately) would be great. I already have the $30,000 but how much should I save for an average operating budget, saying 2 h a week?
@evandickson196 жыл бұрын
Araye “REEEEEE” 😂😂
@jhmcglynn6 жыл бұрын
Buying the airplane is the least expense. The annual fixed costs for my Kitfox was $3600 for hangar, about $1200 for insurance, and about $900 for the annual condition inspection. You can mitigate some of these costs. For example at our glider club we purchased a full A/C covers since we have to store them outside. Those cost about $1500 a set. Insurance for tail draggers is more expensive. My last owner assisted annual cost me a good bottle of wine as a gift for my A&P hangar mate.
@danielwillets23466 жыл бұрын
Brainstormer? You mean barnstormers?
@connorvaughn79686 жыл бұрын
I can tell you're between the age of 9 and 15, because you say "Reeee".....
@MarioGonzalez-cu4sf Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@chevy82584 жыл бұрын
“I would trade my Honda Accord for this airplane any day” had me dying 😂
@masonic66885 жыл бұрын
If you dream of being an airline pilot just go here in my country Philippines. You're allowed to fly up to 1500 hours as pilot in command the flying school fee would range 2 million-5 million pesos (32k-60k). Package would include private pilot license, single engine rating, instrumentation rating, multi engine rating, ground school and they would help you get type rated for airbus a320 family. Food and lodging included with the tuition it is usually 8-12 months to complete cheers!
@shannonwittman9505 жыл бұрын
Great video! The affordability of the zillions of 172's out there, help to keep the prices of 150's and 152's well within reach of community-airport pilots who want their own simple flyabout planes. I wish you'd included the Alon Aircoupe in this list.
@MrJrbryan6 жыл бұрын
Mike, I'm not a pilot but love airplanes...your voice and was you describe these aircraft is great...good job..held my interest
@wheelswingsnstrings5236 жыл бұрын
Why all the negative comments? If you choose not to fly or learn to fly, it’s up to you? Flying and owning an older airplane is really no more expensive than buying a new Harley touring bike, a cheap sports car or racing at a local track. Guys don’t whine about the cost of owning, modifying or maintaining those things, and they sure don’t calculate cost per hour of riding and drinking. Be smart about your purchase, find a mechanic to work with, learn and make your fun affordable and safe.
@aaroncriddle39604 жыл бұрын
I'm a 15 year old looking into aviation and this was very helpful
@theoriginalpauly6 жыл бұрын
Good video, thanks for making it! I totally agree about the Grumman: low-wing aircraft just look "cooler" (more aggressive, faster, sportier) than high-wing aircraft. I think I prefer the look of the Piper, but the Grumman has a really distinctive look, so I can understand someone preferring it over the Piper.
@Floag5 жыл бұрын
0:38 the Cessna 152 is the same thing but more fuel efficient and newer. Oh and it also has a fixed tricycle gear
@judsonlero54025 жыл бұрын
i would recommemd the piper cherokee, it is a very solid plane, easy steering, and lands beautifully
@7478captain4 жыл бұрын
Yes, the low wing pipers are supposedly “easier” to fly than even the docile Cessnas. Even though I have my Commercial Pilot Certificate and Instrument rating, with over 400 hours, I have never flown the Pipers (or any low wing aircraft for that matter). All I’ve flown is 172s (M, SP and RG) and 152s
@peterbretherton35463 жыл бұрын
I like low wing better because when landing the wing doesn't block your view while turning like the high wing of the 150/172.
@jpfinneran5 жыл бұрын
Very helpful, well spoken, clear and knowledgeable. Must watch for new/interested ga aircraft seekers
@kevinhall56456 жыл бұрын
We just bought a Piper Warrior II for 35K but it had a Garmin 430. Awesome plane for us to build time in. Love your videos great job!
@cyclemanncafe6 жыл бұрын
Good video, Mike! Thanks for the effort, look for valid suggestions in comments, ignore mean spirited comments, and please continue to develop your channel.
@sarc882 жыл бұрын
Hay Mike - I fact checked all of these on trader, brainstorm, and canopy - all of them are pretty much 56-75 now. Some owners hang on to that sentiment!
@codyzumr40402 жыл бұрын
Meme Flu has really ruined everything. These prices would have been true upto 2019 But now as everything Aviation especially has inflated and plane prices are up the roof. Someone at my airfield got C120 for 20k before 2019 and same plane has doubled now
@0justLook6 жыл бұрын
Thank You Mike. Your videos are always informative, fair, and unbiased. Keep up the good work. Inspiring one to fly could be life-changing encouragement for some ppl. You may never know how your work changes lives for the better. Ignore, delete, block the haters. Also, do you have a video on the Two styles of Sonics? One has a V-Tail, and appears to have a Jet engine??? Or could you make one??
@mojogrip6 жыл бұрын
I'll def try and make one. Constantly checking for owners and builders close to me. Thanks.
@cw937115 жыл бұрын
The jet engine is not a certified engine for the kit. Sonex is located in Oshkosh wis home of eaa. It's a great little kit plane. My step father wanted me to build one but I went a different direction. They do have a lot of options, even a motor glider if I remember right.
@ballwizz236 жыл бұрын
Excellent videos. These types of videos are not normally this well done. But you gave some good options with videos and specs. Thanks!
@hogey746 жыл бұрын
This is true and now is actually the time. The people who bought all the aircraft during the boom from the 50s to the 70s are all ageing out. There are a lot of useful aircraft coming up for sale with a lot of good hours left in them and very good prices. I reckon there will be a mini boom as a result.
@PR-lw2oq3 жыл бұрын
Got my certification in 1993. Can’t wait to get current again
@josemmontes58106 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike, great video, some people might see some discrepancies like the "over inflated prices" comments however I think that overall your video gives good info. My one tip is that although your video is about airplane prices and not maintenance cost you should have mentioned having a little caution with the maintenance needs of these older aircraft and how the price can change drastically depending on how much time is on the engine, actually you might want to do a future video on the hidden cost of buying a plane.
@seigeengine6 жыл бұрын
No. There's really no need to do that at all. The process of getting licensed takes months and thousands of dollars, only to then need to spend tens of thousands on a plane. If you're stupid enough to expect a ten minute video to be all you need to know, you're too stupid to make decisions.
@jhmcd26 жыл бұрын
If you get a 172, get a S series. It has far more power and the heavier engine actually makes it easier to recover from stalls and land, as unlike lighter C172's, it doesn't like to float and glide as much. Trust me, it took me forever to get my landings down on the standard C172, but after two landings in the S-series, I was nailing them.
@joeb.50206 жыл бұрын
150 or 172 depending on student/instructor fatniss
@PC-vq5ud6 жыл бұрын
Grumman A1AA: Max load about 500LBS. Quirky stall characteristics, have to stay on the power when landing. Designed by Bede before Grumman took it over. Fuel tanks are the main wing spar that is a pipe. Two to 2.5 hour range. Mike, I think your were looking at the specs for the A5AA Traveler. Hard to get for $30K unless it is time to re-engine or similliar additional costs. I do love all the Grumman's looks. They are sporty!!
@nonyabeeznuss3044 жыл бұрын
"I would trade my honda accord for one of these any day" driving a honda accord (profuse sweating)
@ritegeist Жыл бұрын
Good video 5 years ago, but the info is super out of date nowadays... prices on all of these have pretty much doubled if not tripled
@keithfreeman52046 жыл бұрын
How about this? A Sonex with a full, nose to tail, Delta Wing? A lot of square feet of Wing Area and very slippery, maybe retracks? Evelons, rudder, really simple controls.
@sahhull4 жыл бұрын
I live in the UK. 1993 I got my PPL and a Cessna 150, bought very used for less than the price of a 2nd hand car... Sold it 2 years later to the flying school after converting to helicopters and bought a Robinson R22 which I still own and fly today. OMG... I'd never be able to afford to start from scratch today.
@7478captain4 жыл бұрын
That is because of what your country has turned into!! But Boris Johnson is back at the helm (Britain’s version of Trump). So maybe there is hope for your country after all??
@irishpilot20066 жыл бұрын
Perhaps on the Grumman the author was confusing an AA1 with a Tiger, the AA1 has 450lbs useful. from review: "The AA1B has a basic useful load of more than 450 pounds. While not great, it beats the rest of the AA1 lineup by 50 to 90 pounds. Produced between 1973 and 1976,"
@canelfno2 жыл бұрын
That was 4 years ago. In 2022 you can find them in the junkyard for that amount if $$, even 1966C150 asking above $50k which is very higher than Vref..better buy a Vans RV12...
@xzqzq6 жыл бұрын
I learned to fly on a 150... the aerobatic version would be interesting... prefer taildraggers.
@rahmadafahries66404 жыл бұрын
Are we have to had certificate?
@tyronealfonso5 жыл бұрын
“Brain starmer” lol
@InventorInvestor4 жыл бұрын
He says the same in other videos.
@mooseknuckle_44744 жыл бұрын
Came here to say this. Like dude......how? How do you get this one so wrong. Lol. Otherwise good video
@evanwindom32653 жыл бұрын
That seam in the windscreen on the Sonex would drive me crazy. I owned a Cessna Hawk XP for a number of years. It had the good manners of a 172, but had an extra 50 hp so it climbed like a homesick angel. It saw a ton of use in airborne search & rescue and mountain flying classes. It's a great platform for both uses. One thing the video doesn't provide much info about -- and SHOULD -- is maintenance and repairs. Yes, you can buy an older airplane for bargain prices, but you're also going to be looking at timed-life components needing replacement, potential corrosion issues, etc. It's easy to end up spending many thousands of dollars you didn't plan on when a mechanic finds an issue during an annual inspection. So, if you buy an airplane, be sure you sock away enough cash (hopefully before you buy) to take care of unplanned expenses because they WILL show up.
@tightenyochain856grom66 жыл бұрын
Think ill just get a paramotor lol
@vineetsharma63464 жыл бұрын
Are any of these light sport aircrafts
@mothman-jz8ug6 жыл бұрын
The comments are sickening. It matters not what is said, the trolls HAVE to pouince on it with derision. He says "initial investment" and all the trolls - poor, sick human being who must downgrade everything and everyone just to make themselves appear "superior" (in their own eyes) - start with the "what about maintenance" and so on. Too dumb to even understand the words they hear, but the are so smart (in their pathetic little minds) that they have to tell everything "wrong". Disgusting bunch of negative people... LOOK AT THE TITLE: "5 Personal Airplanes You Can Buy For Less Than $30,000". It does NOT say "Airplanes you can buy, overhaul, maintain, put fuel in, and insure for life under $30,000"!!!!!!!!!!!
@thatswhatshesaid79356 жыл бұрын
What should be the distance needed to takeoff and landing
@greatbritishscarface74646 жыл бұрын
You didn’t include the Piper J3 Cub.
@cw937115 жыл бұрын
Or kitfox
@burn38744 жыл бұрын
And you missed the Midget Mustang.
@lordelectrichv24116 жыл бұрын
I know that the Grumman Cheetah AA-5A is a 4 place plane and 30K for one is a bit of a stretch but a wonderfully comfortable, and safe airplane worthy of consideration. Other experimental planes such as these designed by Burt Rutan pusher design with cruising speeds just shy of 200mph. Varieze under 15K long ez and the Cozy 3under 30K.
@abbozzz54836 жыл бұрын
I'll trade my accord for a plane anyday 😂
@AQ-1014 жыл бұрын
:-$
@arturus6 жыл бұрын
Great video. Been dabbling in getting my Sports License and I gotta say, the feeling of flying and landing a plane is amazing!
@joshuawesley90156 жыл бұрын
The three “F” rule. If it Flies, Floats or F*cks, RENT IT! Trust me, I’m an aircraft mechanic.
@zrbbg96394 жыл бұрын
"F*ucks" You have my trust
@donalain694 жыл бұрын
wise mans words.. wish I had read that before I married 🙄
@lyleswan66713 жыл бұрын
dude is not even lying!
@ilovefreedoom3 жыл бұрын
I love your channel, my dude. Thanks for all you do!
@Karen-lc8be6 жыл бұрын
"C E S S N A I S M O M ' S C A R"
@MyLifeThai3712 жыл бұрын
We have a 1966 Cessna 150 up here in North Dakota for only $12,000. It has been in storage since 2014 on the farm.
@yummyumsOG6 жыл бұрын
Thanks mike. :)
@isaacshultz81286 жыл бұрын
I'm building a Sonex and working on my private pilot license! The Sonex is a fantastic plane and I'm glad to see you giving it some spotlight!
@robertschumann90596 жыл бұрын
What about the ercoupe?
@JR-ms4hl Жыл бұрын
Love your videos! Very informative & interesting.
@michaeljenkins66826 жыл бұрын
What about airplanes like a Pitts.. smith mini... baby Great Lakes.. sorry I just really love cheap small biplanes
@cw937115 жыл бұрын
Pitts will be over 50k minimum. Their is one fully acrobatic 2 seat with a canopy that will be around 30 to 35k but I can't think of name of company
@chadeonjohnson68373 жыл бұрын
I’ve never been so interested in buying planes ever. This is one of my goals now!!
@h7pubg6 жыл бұрын
9:19 wait that doesn’t look like it sits 2
@amaanmahammad22966 жыл бұрын
one on the top of the cockpit
@brandonhebert54856 жыл бұрын
He actually shows the entire line of Sonex aircraft. The Sonex, Waiex, Zenos and SubSonex. You won't find that jet powered Sonex for under 100,000 big ones. You also show the Onex, the one with folding wings. That only holds one person.
@learnerchris3 жыл бұрын
I started super cub but flew my first cross country solo flying on a Grumman and I loved it!
@mojogrip6 жыл бұрын
Part II. 5 Personal Airplanes You Can Buy For Less Than $20,000 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpqUpKxvaMiSjsk
@soroushfy5 жыл бұрын
In the video, I saw the sonic was being towed on the trailer with the wings folded. That being said, can the owner save the hanger cost by keeping it in the garage?
@jameshauser15076 жыл бұрын
Nice video thank you for making this. But please, please. It is Barnstormer---not, Brain-stormer.
@mongo50544 жыл бұрын
Love this channel! Mike, love how knowledgeable you are. Wish I could meet you!
@ronjohnson3036 жыл бұрын
Leaseback is a bad idea, students are very hard on airplanes and guess who pays for the maintenance
@Gypsy20576 жыл бұрын
I'm using a 152 for example but I'd set up a per hours leaseback at 80% of what the school charges, figure the annual + engine time and work out the cost per hour. The school keeps the tank full and add in the oil changes exc, so for example you come up with $40/hr cost, charge $45/hr. Should be close if you add in everything. Payment 400/month, overhaul 2,000 hours $15,000 so say $10/hr for motor use, go through everything.
@Flying4Film5 жыл бұрын
I'm currently saving money to purchase either a 150 or 172 in the next 2 years. Great video.
@sparklerzrainbow5 жыл бұрын
Flying 4 Film I’m currently flying a 172 with a bore kit in it and I love it amazing plane to learn in really forgiving good luck man :) I’m in the process of buying the plane in my profile pic (citabria 7kcab 1968
@spiro53276 жыл бұрын
You say that if you can afford a brand new Honda then you can afford to own your own plane. The only problem is that these planes are not new. They are probably 40 to 50 years old and and just like an old car you will be constantly pouring money into the old bird. The reality is that GA aircraft are not affordable. Bring the cost of a brand-new Cessna 172 down to less than 100k and then you can say it's affordable or at least for some people anyway.
@jaroslavsevcik34216 жыл бұрын
You didn't get Spiro's idea. Paying today a price of NEW honda for an OLD aircraft brings you more problems tomorrow and it will drain your wallet quickly. How many people buy old cars for a daily usage? Almost none because they know those cars limits including lack of spare parts. So this is the same with aircraft. Plus driving a car actually hasn't changed too much but FAA/ICAO rules and requirement for flying have. So buying an old aircraft needs often some upgrades which increases the final price of the bird.
@seigeengine6 жыл бұрын
Irrelevant. Aircraft need to be maintained nigh-religiously, whereas most cars are abused and neglected to the point they're scrap in 10-20 years. You are making excuses to complain. Grow up.
@AdamsBrew784 жыл бұрын
The man at 8:15 was the CEO of Sonex , killed by his Sonex aircraft a few years ago. From what I heard, the fuel got shut off just after takeoff - I’m not certain but I heard it may have been accidentally shut off by Jeremy hitting the wrong pedal/switch with his foot. not exactly something that inspires confidence in this design.
@arod1pilot6 жыл бұрын
How about the piper tomahawk
@ronjohnson3036 жыл бұрын
Antonio Rodriguez. The piper tomahawk is a piece of shit.
@arod1pilot6 жыл бұрын
Ron Johnson yea ive had lots of ppl complain about it but I did my pvt and instrument rating on it. But I've heard it's also a scary one to spin
@piperpilot266 жыл бұрын
That's why it's commonly referred to as the "Tramahawk."
@arod1pilot6 жыл бұрын
Shaun Daskam I never had a issue with it and yes I've heard that before fly one maybe youlle like it
@marvinthomas29936 жыл бұрын
Antonio Rodriguez. I love the Piper Tomahawk, got many hours in them, hell I even got 5 radio control Tomahawks.
@andycortes20856 жыл бұрын
nice video, what about average maintenance expenses?
@suhdude97756 жыл бұрын
no ac-130? cheap and affordable
@Bryan-qd4fk6 жыл бұрын
I like the wings above the cockpit because they allow you to see the ground better. Where I live, flying is the best way to see the beautiful landscape
@rocketplayz58346 жыл бұрын
Ummm ill just make my own homemade airplane
@random_guy18826 жыл бұрын
tell us the website to buy
@futurenepaldevlopment26576 жыл бұрын
Plz make video for jet engines too
@scotdevine35195 жыл бұрын
Another great and informative video. Thanks Mike.
@robertmaurice98715 жыл бұрын
what is the name of the plane before the list start ?
@archktik6 жыл бұрын
very nice videogot some tips
@313Tabasco6 жыл бұрын
I will train in a Cessna 172 but I Dream of owning a Grumman aa1 how it the transition from a 172 to a Grumman aa1?
@pjhudson53446 жыл бұрын
As fast as you can climb out and then climb in, I mean the nose wheel on the grumman might take a sec to get used too, or perhaps the wind in your hair while flying with the canopy slid back. The grumman has fun roll rate but can be a little touchie with underpowered engine, full fuel, wkend bags and a chubby girlfriend(so ive read)(-trade off is utility verses sporty.}
@poobinatch6 жыл бұрын
“Brainstormers”. Heh
@dentech9876 жыл бұрын
Definately needs an edit. Heard it 3 times I think? ......It's "BARNSTORMERS"!
@polyscient6 жыл бұрын
www.barnstormers.com/
@toml14466 жыл бұрын
and GrOmmen
@damiantaylor53575 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend a piper tomahawk as a beginner’s airplane?
@mojogrip5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@call911forcookies26 жыл бұрын
This is all true; but guys, remeber, these fixed costs are the smallest amounts in your investment. Maintenance is pricey ;O
@brandonhebert54856 жыл бұрын
I happen to hold an A&P license. Should that help the cost a bit?
@гига-нигга6 жыл бұрын
no shit maintanence is pricey, anyone buying an aircraft knows that
@VRTOC10 ай бұрын
Another great video but I have a question. Where are the best exhibitions (US and Europe) that allow us to see aircraft and their manufacturers?
@booquorfus13716 жыл бұрын
The number 1 way to die is to fly around in home built uncertified plane
@ferrarikingdom6 жыл бұрын
booquorfus so make sure you only buy certified kits
@blackdeath4eternity6 жыл бұрын
more people die in cars, nonetheless don't buy sight unseen & keep it all maintained.
@matts2245 жыл бұрын
I’m looking to hit the Mach 2 for under 20k. I’m hoping to find a fighter jet or maybe even possibly a space shuttle. Any recommendations?
@Ansset06 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, where is maintenance cost factored here? That's why those planes are so cheap. Within 2 years or couple hundred FH/FC (depends on what You buy) You're facing maintenance bills which will dwarf initial buying cost. If You hit a major overhaul, You're doomed :) ------------------------------------ In western EU (prices are similar in US, I suppose) C172 class : Instrument check 400-1000 euro Insurance 1200-4000 euro (depends on A/C and pilot) Engine overhaul/rebuild 16-25k euro (every 1200-2200 FH) (rotax 9xx or IO-360 class) 100 FH check 1000 -3000 euro (If everything is ok, when You add repair cost or NDT or structural job or anything else, bills will be a lot bigger) Prop overhaul (1000 FH) - 800- 1500 euro Prop new - 4000 euro+ Euro/USD exchange ratio: ~1 / 1.2 ----------------------------------------------- Buying a budget A/C is similar to buying a budget car. Most likely You won't keep Your 15-20 yo car because of maintenance cost and personal safety. That's exactly why A/C owners are getting rid of them. Don't fall for it. On the other hand: teach Your kids flying. They will never have enough money for drugs :D
@call911forcookies26 жыл бұрын
Ha, your last statement is so true ;D
@jhmcglynn6 жыл бұрын
I think the costs you mentioned are over inflated. We get a pitot static check for $250 here in FL, USA. I am with Mike Bush of the EAA and overhaul when the shows signs of significant wear, such as low compression. You can also mitigate fixed costs by taking on partners.
@Ansset06 жыл бұрын
Pitot static inspection alone is $250. It's one of many instruments, isn't it? What about others electromechanical insturmentation, not to mention getting all the electronics inspected or upgraded (software)?
@jhmcglynn6 жыл бұрын
Ansset0 - the pitot static inspection is a calibration test performed every other year. Typically a pre-buy inspection should point out any other shortcomings.
@jhmcglynn6 жыл бұрын
Mike, you mentioned that the Grumman AA1A has a 1000 lb useful load. It’s typical empty weight is 1018 lbs and gross weight is 1500 lbs. useful load would therefore be 482 lbs. You also said it had a long range. Ain’t true Mike. I checked out in one years and recall about a 22 gallon tank. At 6GPH that’s about 3.5 hours. Oh, and Mike, it’s Barnstormers.com, not Brainstormers😊