5 Reasons that Foreigners are Leaving THAILAND in 2024

[@thebangkokguide]

สังเกตว่าคนไทยบางคนคิดว่าคลิปนี้เป็นการร้องเรียนหรือว่าเราขอสิทธิ์เช่นเดียวกับคนไทย นี่เป็นความเข้าใจผิดของวิดีโอ ฝรั่งจำนวนมากไม่คุ้นเคยกับการใช้ชีวิตในประเทศไทย วิดีโอนี้จะอธิบายว่าทำไมชาวต่างชาติบางคนจึงลาออกหลังจากผ่านไปหลายปี ในวิดีโอผมบอกจริงๆว่าเห็นด้วยกับนโยบายที่เป็นประโยชน์ต่อคนไทยเพราะนี่คือประเทศไทย หวังว่าคุณจะมีวันที่ดี!

[@tomasprilepok4824]

you will never be able to be thai or have all thai laws as thais have it the same in eu or usa. 😊

[@a1lyhall]

Thai identity is one thing. But in buddhism, the main teaching is noself, which invites a notion of oneness/emptiness/silence. Also, ‘thai’ literally means ‘free’. So bear this in mind when trying to combine with the free’s upbringing and mindset of how they view the world.

[@Emdep17213]

Asian countries are cunning and discriminatory countries. On the contrary, Asians like me who go to Europe are treated the same as Europeans. What a shame.

[@patnyabangkok7751]

Totally agree with everything, ive been coming 20 years and recently retired over a year ago and living in Bangkok, from the UK, it can be frustrating being treated as a tourist, but i feel more of a foreign in my hometown of London than I do here, maybe I will return to the uk when im in my 70s, but the cost is frightening in UK, im living here over half the cost of London, i have no plans to buy property in Thailand as its cheaper to rent and can move around more easily, i intend to stay single and enjoy my years while I can.

[@thebangkokguide]

I agree with your perspective. I think it’s a great place for retirement.

[@PeevyMctweevy]

I am from the UK, I left the country 14 years ago to live in the Philippines, I would not retire to Thailand because you don't receive your annual state pension increase. Here in the Philippines you do...

[@jurgschupbach3059]

I am looking for a rich Thai Lady who likes to be in a demanding relationship with a Boksida

[@katjaxxx7353]

I love Thailand. The chaos etc. I love London but Zone 3 is now £438 per week for 32 sqm. Crazy!

[@jimshelley8831]

I live in Bangkok, but I've never felt a foreigner in the UK. Why do you feel more like a foreigner back home?

[@KpKp-s8z]

I left the UK three years ago and relocated to Issan at 62 years old,I set a budget of 30,000 baht a month, and apart from an initial outlay, new Honda wave, etc keeping within this budget has been achievable , I have a separate budget for trips, holidays, I could never enjoy a lifestyle in the UK all quality of life, as I do here in Thailand Saying that I don't drink or go to bars or have expensive hobbies but live a thai lifestyle enjoying the natural world, eat natural healthy foods, and working out most day's i try and keep spending to 500 baht a day its not easy but is poosible if you adopt the "Thai way "

[@thebangkokguide]

That is a great perspective. I actually lived on a similar budget in Bangkok back in 2019. It was very enjoyable as well. I'm not a big drinker either. I think if you cut out nightlife, the experience of living in Thailand changes entirely. Thanks for the comment!

[@kul_thum]

I am local person i m very happy to live in Thailand i hav no idea to find another place bcos i think most things here is suitable for me and my behavior. Many things can be chosen by myself. Bad thing i can skip avoid them and looking how to improve to be better. So i think many people can enjoy living here and thai people welcome everyone who is good people no matter where u from. 🎉🎉😊😊

[@marcoo1980]

not enough to live with 30 k

[@guymandudely324]

Will you slaughter a chicken or pig if you have a special guest? Do you enjoy eating frogs and rats? That's the Thai way in Issan.

[@anna_m59]

Give us feed back in another 5 years.. would be interesting

[@markmorris4979]

I am 54 and retiring to thailand soon and i actually feel like a foreigner here in england most of the big cities in uk are being flooded with people from other countries,dont get me wrong i have a lot of compassion for people who are forced to flee their country but we are a small island and our resources only stretch so far and the nhs is struggling so for me it is an easy move

[@thebangkokguide]

I understand. I think there are similar feelings in many countries, including here in Thailand! I always try to consider how people here think about things as well. Cheers and best of luck with the move!

[@markmorris4979]

@thebangkokguide I think the biggest difference is if you go to thailand you have to pay for healthcare unlike uk where you can claim for everything having never paid into the system ,I cannot wait to move over there I would rather feel like a foreigner in a friendly country than feel like one in my own

[@thebangkokguide]

It’s a great place to live. I strongly recommend it, especially for retirees as you won’t actually have any problems with most of the issues that I discuss in this video. Overall I just try to give a complete picture for viewers so that they can have as much information as possible to make a decision. Cheers and good luck with the move!

[@DavidGray-o7f]

I am born raised in England, spent the last 41 years in US. very enjoyable experience. retired, moved to BKK and trust a Canadian to speak so elequently and without exageration about Thailand. Well done

[@thebangkokguide]

Thank you for the kind words! Much appreciated. Welcome to Thailand!

[@terryj3385]

Makes more financial sense to retire here than to come here to live here while you are young with family.

[@deanpapadopoulos3314]

Such a good point.

[@sebastianhamilton5892]

That's for sure. I would *never* raise a child in a monoculture place like Thailand. Malaysia, yes, but not Thailand.

[@valerielaville1337]

You are entitled to your opinions, but be prepared to be surprised. Canada is going downhill fast. I'm in Quebec and perhaps it's not the same everywhere, but we decided to leave Canada as things are not evolving the way we want. Schooling is given by unqualified people, public healthcare is getting disastrous, housing is high, lots of day-to-day things are less and less affordable... Good luck to you, and may you find happiness where you're going.

[@thebangkokguide]

Thanks for the input. I’m giving it a lot of thought. I’ve heard similar opinions from other friends as well so I appreciate the insight. It’s been over 4 years since I was in Canada and plan to go visit to check it out in a couple of months. Maybe it will change my mind!

[@sokaiya1]

@@thebangkokguideit will change. Canada is done.

[@sebastianhamilton5892]

Yes, Canada is indeed doomed. Just yesterday, I read that the federal government spent CAD$100,000,000 (~2,700,000,000THB) to house 5,000 illegal immigrants in Niagara Falls hotel rooms between Feb 2023 and Feb 2024. Insanity ...

[@jglee6721]

I'm in the US but a huge fan of Canada. I think the situation there is very bleak. Canada is being squeezed into communism judging from the housing prices which means nobody can afford it, thus, only the rich or the poor, no middle class. Even Tucker Carlson whose ancestors were Canadians joked that the US should invade and liberate Canada as we don't want a Cuba next to us. lol

[@msbrownbeast]

Not many people want to stay in Quebec anyway, with low pay, high taxes and all that political and language bullshit.

[@mchaisoccer]

Try learning to speak Thai to the locals and you will be surprised how inclusive they would embrace you to their circle. Language is the biggest barrier between Thais and foreigners including Farang, Chinese, Japanese, etc from being tied and socialized. I am a Thai by the way.

[@thebangkokguide]

I definitely agree. I can speak some Thai as well and it is definitely helpful! Cheers!

[@hclau218]

​@@thebangkokguideSome Thai.. jeez.. Thai is a very easy language to learn. After 7byears, I am surprised.

[@kombatpapi7738]

I agree. Learn the language and you will be ok

[@doomd1816]

No. You can walk up and start speaking thai and they will still avoid you. And if they speak english, they will still avoid you It isn’t about language

[@WanderlustReports]

I am a true lover of Thailand and for many years I have watched countless videos and followed countless KZbinrs in Thailand. I even have myself a lot of videos of Thailand on my channel. I can therefore be described as a connoisseur of the country and yet in your video, I learned a lot of things, it's really top notch , thank you very much! New subscriber, here...

[@thebangkokguide]

Thank you very much for the kind words! Cheers!

[@พรศักดิ์ธนาไพศาล]

ถ้ามีปัญหายุ่งยากที่จะอาศัยอยู่อย่างถาวรในไทย ผมแนะนำว่า คุณก็กลับไปหาครอบครัวของคุณที่ประเทศของคุณก็ได้ ถ้าคิดถึงไทย หรืออยากมาพักผ่อน สนุกสนาน ในช่วงฤดูหนาว ก็กลับมาประเทศไทย 2-3 month คนไทยยินดีต้อนรับทุกคนเสมอ ขอบคุณความรัก ความชื่นชอบประเทศไทยของเรา Thank you so… so much Mr. Cal . I know you love Thailand.

[@thebangkokguide]

Thank you for the kind words ❤️ And yes, I definitely love Thailand!

[@patrykstrach4469]

I don’t mind… I’m a Outsider in any Country.

[@thebangkokguide]

This is true. I think it mostly bothers people with families who pay taxes though.

[@keepitreal1547]

The way to enjoy Thailand is to holiday there while working in your home country, building up your social security pension. Then when & only if you have your finances in order to retire in Thailand for the rest of your days...then do so. The main reasons expats move back to their home countries, is ultimately down to money reasons.

[@thebangkokguide]

This seems like a very reasonable approach. Thanks for the input!

[@deanpapadopoulos3314]

This is exactly right.

[@jglee6721]

Yep. Simply because the salary is low in Thailand thus you cannot build up your net worth unless you have a business which you have to deal with other problems like the language and jealousy. With this correct method, when you retire in Thailand, you'll enjoy the 50% cost of living reduction. In addition, Thai medical system is decent enough for the retirees.

[@dewberry3043]

I really thought that's what the expats are doing.

[@kevo8498]

Well said!!!

[@ellvtv2314]

Glad you removed the background music. It makes a much better viewing experience.

[@thebangkokguide]

Yessir. I saw your comment…went back and watched and totally agreed. Thanks for the input! Very helpful

[@sebastianhamilton5892]

Glad you did this. Post-production music (in KZbin videos or Hollywood movies) is usually counterproductive. Think of how many films James Horner ruined ("Storm of the Century" is a perfect example).

[@marcp108]

Totally agree with everything you say. It is becoming ridiculously expensive for people to live in places like Sydney - and that's why many turn to living in Thailand. Unfortunately, for many, it doesn't always work out. As a side note, having a Thai ID or Drivers license helps to get a 'locals' price to many Wats, zoos etc.

[@thebangkokguide]

Thanks for the kind words. I think Sydney is now ranked as the most expensive city in the world. Although in more recent experiences, most seem to just charge the foreigner price across the board. Cheers!

[@valuetraveler2026]

Oh yeh important to get into the zoo cheap 😂

[@regnorse]

ikr lol@@valuetraveler2026

[@carstensanonym7527]

how can a foreigner get a Thai ID?

[@jimb3093]

That why I’m considering the part time expat life. Still have a home base in the US.

[@thebangkokguide]

I think this can make a lot of sense if you don't have location dependent work commitments.

[@taterrhead]

almost everything you listed as negatives are quickly becoming true in some western countries such as Canada (already super long waits for that 'free' healthcare && with current immigration levels it's quite possible the entire 'free' healthcare system collapses on itself)

[@thebangkokguide]

I have heard this as well. I definitely like the speed of the healthcare system in Thailand. The public-private model seems to work fairly well.

[@sborgum]

German healthcare has been a nightmear for a century and becoming worse. Many dont even like going to doctors because of this. Just when its very serious....

[@Openeyesopenheart42]

All western countries with “free” healthcare, uk, Canada, Australia (my home) have seriously long waiting times for the most basic of needs , most are on the verge of Collapse, and if you desire a quicker outcome you must pay through the nose. I am shifting to Thailand this year, cannot wait.

[@Somchai007]

You summed it up very well. I lived in Thailand for over 10 years, had a family and paid taxes. By the 10th year being treated as a dumb tourist wherever I went became frustrating. It's important to be as fluent in the Thai language as possible to neutralise the situation and really connect with the locals. Otherwise, you are just a strange alien to them.

[@thebangkokguide]

I agree. Learning the language is critical, which is very reasonable. It's tricky living in a country with mass tourism as it's hard to blame anybody for thinking you're just another tourist! It's a fair assumption for people to make. Hope life back home is going well!

[@sebastianhamilton5892]

I don't think most Thais are particularly endeared by a farang learning their language. You'll always be just an outsider, and your first argument with one will be your last. Besides, their lingo is useless outside of Thailand.

[@danteinferno175]

Appreciate your genuine acceptance of Thailand as it is without screaming the "r" word. As you mention, most countries are ethnic-based and there's nothing wrong with that [modern Western countries where you're XYZ as long as you hold XYZ passport are an anomaly in world history whether for good or for bad]. Also, it's nice that housing is affordable in Thailand b/c they don't have insane levels of immigration driving up the cost of housing like in the US where nobody can afford to buy a home anymore. Thailand looks after Thais, yet at the same time is welcoming to farang who want to live there as long as they have money to take care of themselves and abide by the rules. That's how all countries should be run imho. Keep the informative videos coming!

[@thebangkokguide]

I fully agree with your perspective. I think sometimes westerners have a habit of thinking other countries need to adapt to western ideology, without realizing that the west is actually an aberration in human history in almost every respect. Thanks for the comment!

[@AnonChiranukulpipat]

In the attitude of most Thai people, it is exactly as you said. Because we think and welcoming you as guests tourist visiting our home. Not our fellow countrymen. The reason is that Thailand is still a developing country in terms of society and economy. Although the utility infrastructure is outstanding But you can see that it is concentrated in Bangkok, Pattaya, Chiang Mai, Hua Hin, Phuket. If you think about the percentage, it might be only 10-20% out of the total of 76 provinces that we have. And although many cities are developing, you can clearly see that none is as developed as Bangkok. Even the development of cities like Pattaya and Chiang Mai has started similar to Bangkok but is still very far apart. Even in Bangkok, if you've ever been to the west side of the Chao Phraya River, it's very far from the east side and the city center. Therefore, Thailand still needs a lot of time, maybe 10 years at least, to develop into a developed country. Being a developed country will affect the attitude of the population that Living together between people of the same nation and foreigners will narrow the gap. You come from a high-income country. A lot of your money in a country with hundreds of thousands of living expenses. Compared to developing countries where incomes are low and life security has not yet developed to the point of having a retirement welfare system. Sometimes foreign tourists are annoyed by the fact that some service fees are more expensive than Thai people. But let you understand that what we charge is a normal rate. But the rate that Thai people pay to visit tourist attractions It is to encourage Thai people to travel within the country in order to reduce inflation. and the baht currency goes abroad. It will take at least another 5-10 years for continuous improvement in the attitude Thai people are being taught and trained. We are proud that our country has never been colonized since its inception. This is our land for Thai people. Our country used to be a country or state that allowed many foreigners to come and live in this land while it's was Kingdom of Siam. But they came to cause Siam to lose almost half of its territory. If you understand the meaning of the Thai national anthem song. You will also understand why Thai people have to stand still twice at the same time every day and so proud born to be Thai citizens. It takes a lot of time to make important decisions on granting LTR visas or even allowing green card citizenship for foreigners. But know that we Thais never mind if anyone comes to live with us. But because the development of our country is not yet ready to reach that point. Because the social inequality is now too great between the very rich and the very poor, people with very high levels of education and people without the opportunity for a high-skilled education. that are used to pursue a career with a very high income The scary thing in Thai people's minds about being a country that allows many foreigners to live is the flow of immigration from around our neighbor countries. Or people from far away countries come in too much and cannot control the situation either. livelihoods, inflation, housing shortages And the most important thing is that the job was stolen. This causes a loss of income to support family members, and crime increases until it is uncontrollable. Just like many developed countries are facing right now. But from this year onwards, our country will open-minded begin to embrace and permit the concept of digital nomad or expat more. It will be seen from the country's leaders opening LTR visa and Highly skills work permit, Retirement visa, expanding the number of days for specialized tourists such as coming to study cooking, coming to practice Muay Thai, ect., as Thailand increases the granting of visas. free with more country friendship. Or even opening opportunities for investors to join in the development of many industries that Thailand is focusing on, which we call new s-curve and sustainable development.😂

[@thebangkokguide]

Thanks for the input. I respect the values and culture of Thailand. And I agree with your opinions about development. Actually Thailand needs to be very careful about changing rules around citizenship and ownership. I don't recommend it. Thailand would quickly be bought and owned by people from much wealthier countries, and have even more migration from poorer neighboring countries. There are a lot of risks in that. This video is mostly about why friends of mine have decided to leave after living here for many years. I am not advocating for any changes. That is for Thai people to decide.

[@stumbras2000]

10 years, they said it 20 years ago. It will take another 30... if ever. Just look at horrible education system.

[@asiandetective4998]

I think it is reasonable that Thais are charged less at National sites such as National Parks and Temples, they pay tax for the upkeep of these assets whereas foreigners don’t.

[@thebangkokguide]

@asiandetective4998 I’m actually only talking about foreigners that pay taxes in Thailand. As I mentioned, a foreigner that lives and works in Thailand (and pays taxes) is treated exactly the same as a tourist that steps off the plane.

[@thumtlnguyen3626]

@Anon I suggest that you should never use the phrase " We are proud that we have never been colonized". Writing such phrase It looks like the West is something Asians have to be fear of and they had the right to go around the globe to colonize other countries. The true act of western colonization is nothing but thieves and robbers. It's true that the West developed way before Asian countries since 16 century due to their free and progressive thinking and their talents of technologies.

[@martypoll]

All good reasons for people under 50 years who can only really stay here if they have a job and/or are married to a Thai. If you are over 50 and a retiree then Thailand can be a great final destination.

[@thebangkokguide]

I agree with that point. I definitely love living here, but over the years plenty of friends have decided to leave...usually it's for fairly similar reasons. For retirees it is a great option generally.

[@MyBelch]

Thailand is a terrible place to live if you have to work. It's not so bad if you're retired. If you have to make money, why do it in a place with such laughable salaries or hourly wages? Make hay while you're young, don't squander your productive years in a hopelessly dead-end employment environment like SEA.

[@martypoll]

@@MyBelch Well . . . there is still some nuance regarding the topic of working in Thailand. I know expat retirees that worked here for decades working for oil companies. I know American university professors that make Thai wages but they are university professor wages. Experienced teachers working at international schools can make a decent wage. I know a New Zealander with a lucrative seed exporting business. It’s cliche but I know several bar owners. There are expats satisfied with farming life in the countryside. No doubt though that there are many many young people, often without much work experience, that come here thinking they can just work any job and just get by. That has to wear people down especially when they eventually realize that there is no future financial security available for them and coupled with the visa insecurity for anyone under 50 years old. The difficulties of making it in their home countries is not insubstantial but they can stay as citizens and they are more comfortable in a familiar cultural environment.

[@MyBelch]

Yes, I agree with all of that. It's not impossible to work in Thailand, but for the same effort, you would make substantially more working in the West. And you would have the option of upward mobility that simply doesn't exist in Thailand.@@martypoll

[@_Alfa.Bravo_]

... agree, except the 3 monthes full of smoke, which I hate a lot

[@eddyk564]

I lived in Thailand for 7 years and agree 100% with the list. For me, one huge factor was concern about how I was going to pay for retirement with no (or very little) pension in Thailand. Another reason was that I found that after a number of years, the "glow" of Thailand sort of wore off. I had been to and lived in many of the places I had wanted, I had seen a good chunk of the country, and I know the Thai language very well and conversed with locals everyday. Everywhere I went in the country started to just look the same with the same foods, people with similar outlooks on life, etc. I still love Thailand- I just don't want to be there full time anymore.

[@thebangkokguide]

I agree with the comment about the "glow". To some extent, I think this occurs in most places... new and exciting becomes routine and boring, and that will always start to change your priorities and perspectives. Thanks for the input!

[@philliproberts7294]

Exactly mate fantastic holiday maybe even a few months a year but then go home

[@Hmmm313]

Still better then west bullshit and crazy inflation…

[@regnorse]

how does one pick up the language? classes?

[@eddyk564]

@@regnorse I didn't do any classes. I paid for a program called Learn Thai Podcast and used a book called "Colloquial Thai". I practised speaking the phrases I learned as much ass possible and I only learned what I thought I might use. Once I got a basic ability, I learned to read Thai which really helped me improve out of sight.

[@bartimay8543]

I am Polish living in the UK for the last 18 years... and I always will be treated as Polish living in the UK so I do not see a huge the difference. However, yes re own the property etc you have a point.

[@thebangkokguide]

I totally understand that. I think the cultural disconnect applies everywhere!

[@paulevans6403]

Your video was good but your responses to the comments are even better and adds completeness.

[@thebangkokguide]

Thanks for the kind words. Cheers!

[@sebastianhamilton5892]

That's for sure. Viewer comments and replies go a long way in promoting a channel.

[@grantr7682]

This is really high quality content, bro. I've been living here in BKK over 2 years and I'm in a similar demographic as you so I enjoy these videos. Most of the other content is marketing gurus or redpill pickup coaches or retirees.

[@thebangkokguide]

Thanks for the kind words. I've seen this type of content as well. I think the longer you stay here, the less appealing this type of thinking becomes. Cheers!

[@westmaui]

Did the whole move back from Thailand a year ago for the same reasons. However raising kids and working has its own toll as it is increasingly difficult to stay in shape. Looking forward to having me time again in Thailand.

[@thebangkokguide]

Yeah, it’s a difficult decision to make! Planning to move back to Thailand?

[@westmaui]

@@thebangkokguide Not in the near future, need to keep growing our business, buying a few more properties, and hopefully later on down the road we can relax. Too much opportunity to miss out on if we stayed in Thailand!

[@thebangkokguide]

Sounds like a good plan! Cheers

[@anthonytr9685]

Thank you for your video. Also we have big difference in mentality

[@thebangkokguide]

Cheers. Thanks for the kind words and all good!

[@Ukboss1]

My advice is if your under 50 just do short trips 3 months max then go home or to a first world country to work and then when your fifty you can retire in thailand rich and stable

[@thebangkokguide]

This is a good plan. Although online work opportunities have increased the possibility of living abroad while investing well! Thanks for the input!

[@MsNoi2010]

My partner 's live here for 12 years and today he just got long term resident visa🎉

[@thebangkokguide]

I have some friends that have applied for citizenship as well! Happy for him!

[@TropicolSnow]

Absolutely phenomenal commentary!!! Very well spoken

[@thebangkokguide]

Thank you so much for the kind words!

[@NichBro]

Good video. An honest perspective and true I think. I am a US citizen with a lot of time in Thailand over the last 25 years and married to a Thai.

[@thebangkokguide]

Thank you for the kind words! I'm getting there haha... a third of the way! Cheers

[@philread7668]

I've been in Th 13 years now. I don't plan to leave. But I would cite the heat. It is relentless. I dream of a Mediterranean climate.

[@thebangkokguide]

It's definitely hot. That being said, my country is way too cold so I never complain about heat here haha

[@daruman8265]

I have lived in two Mediterranean countries over last 9 years, but move to Thailand. South East Asia climate is tough all around the year, but in Med the summers are much hotter than Thailand and winters suck....

[@thediplomat3137]

​@@daruman8265which Mediterranean country has the most ideal climate in your view?

[@vaska1999]

​@@thediplomat3137Probably Cyprus, the Turkish coast facing Cyprus, Greece, parts of Spain (Majorca), and Sicily. Still, I lived in Malta for 7 years, and the houses all across the Mediterranean are built to keep them as cool as possible during the hot summers. As a result, they can be freezing cold in winter time and extremely difficult (impossible) to heat. The Northern coast of Africa -- Tunisia, Morocco, Algeria) may be quite pleasant during winter months as they have the Sahara in their backyard to keep them warm.

[@rafski-travels-1984]

I have lived abroad for 14 years and there came a time when I dropped worrying about whether I fit in or not, who cares ? As an expat choose a few close friends and enjoy the perks of being a foreigner and ignore the ethno-nationalism, it’s just the way it is .

[@thebangkokguide]

I think it’s the right approach. I’m similar on this. It doesn’t bother me and I actually enjoy the freedom that comes with being something of an outsider. Cheers

[@rafski-travels-1984]

@gkokguide Exactly that is one of the meanings of an expat, apart from being banished haha. Those who are serious of living abroad long-term need to overcome this sensitivity and see it as logically as they can, at the end of the day you are privileged to be able to travel and expand your horizons, many people around the world lead insular lives, it gives them pleasure to poke at you as a foreigner haha

[@thebangkokguide]

I agree fully with your view. It's important to recognize the privilege of being able to move around and live freely in most countries.

[@Sdevil00]

เป็นเรื่องปกติค่ะคุณ Cal , สิ่งเหล่านี้เกิดขึ้นทุกที่บนโลกใบนี้เมื่อเราอาศัยอยู่ประเทศอื่น ดิฉันเองก็อาศัยอยู่ที่อินเดียมา 20 กว่าปี กฎหมายที่อินเดียก็ไม่ได้ friendly กับชาวต่างชาติเลยค่ะ หนักกว่าที่ไทยเยอะ นี้ขนาดดิฉันกลมกลืนกับคนท้องถิ่นที่นี้ วัฒนธรรมไทยอินเดียก็ไม่แตกต่างกันมาก แต่มันยังไม่ง่ายเลยค่ะ ดิฉันหลังเกษียณก็จะกลับมาอยู่ไทยค่ะ home sweet home 😊

[@thebangkokguide]

ขอบคุณสำหรับข้อมูล เห็นด้วยกับคุณ. การอาศัยอยู่ในต่างประเทศมักจะต้องผสมผสานเข้ากับวัฒนธรรมท้องถิ่นอยู่เสมอ หวังว่าชีวิตในอินเดียจะดีสำหรับคุณ! 🙏

[@Sdevil00]

​@@thebangkokguide บางครั้งก็อดจะน้อยใจไม่ได้เช่นกันค่ะ ต่อวีซ่าและ work permit ทุกปียุ่งยากสุดๆ ต่อให้เราทำตัวผสมผสานและกลมกลืนแค่ไหนมันก็ยังมีเส้นแบ่งเราอยู่ดี ดิฉันได้แต่ทำใจต้องยอมรับ ปรับตัว และมองหาจุดดีๆของที่นี้ เพื่อที่จะอยู่ได้อย่างมีความสุข ดิฉันหวังเป็นอย่างยิ่งว่าคุณ Cal จะอาศัยอยู่ที่เมืองไทยได้อย่างมีความสุขและมีเพื่อนคนไทยที่ดี หวังเป็นอย่างยิ่งว่าคุณ Cal จะได้รับการต้อนรับที่อบอุ่นทุกที่ๆคุณไป

[@MundoIorio]

For me, I like the slow travel and live pure Farang - gringo - americano where ever I am. I love standing out without trying. I love fighting with vendors trying to over change me. It is really fun!

[@talibanairport1544]

Typical

[@thebangkokguide]

It definitely adds some drama to life!

[@regnorse]

lol

[@sebastianhamilton5892]

Good strategy. Better to laugh at something than to curse it.

[@ChristinaLee_SkyJournal]

That’s reasonable to think about these factors before moving to Thailand. Thanks for sharing ❤

[@thebangkokguide]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@sunrise-yq3dy]

Foreigners in Thailand are underdogs. Second or third class people. you cannot own land, a business, a villa without a human/company in Thai name. A condo is what you can own 100%. Look at Brazil with different climate zones. Here one can own, land, a villa, a business 100%. Thailand is far away from that like other countries in Asia. No foreigners can own land property in Japan, China and the Philippines and more countries on the list. Asia is ethocentrical also concerning property.

[@philliproberts7294]

Lots eventually leave because of the constant heat and humidity nice at first if you're from a cold country but sweaty all day every day It just gets too much

[@thebangkokguide]

To be honest, I don't mind the heat. I don't complain because my country is too cold!

[@palirvin1871]

I am soon to retire in Thailand, thanks for the video, I already have lived some of Asia and travelled some in Thailand. Your video is very valuable for someone of your age. It all makes some sense. I on the other hand have to accept that I want to live in their country and weigh the benefits as a retiree while understanding that I will be bent over on a regular basis, foreigner tax, tourist tax, outright scams, bigotry. Asia countries seem to be similar in these concepts and attitudes and it's the cost of wanting to share their country with your life, they are not interested to actually share anything, they just tolerate you or NOT in some cases. I have to program and remind myself that I need to accept these infringements of my opinion because I simply do not want to live in my home country in my retirement for a variety of reasons and I admit, cost of living is one but not the only reason. Quality and integrity of food stuffs at fair prices, variety of fruits and veggies, the openness of a society for walking and getting exercise outdoors, reduced stress levels by not having to be part of a daily commute with a-holes in traffic .. the list is significant. To get that I have to learn to accept being treated like a second class citizen who lives in a nicer condo that a lot of the locals.. .Eh! Yes, because I am not a citizen. The real game is to get what I want while not preventing them from getting what they want from me. I can't be stupid and I also need to accept that they may change their minds and I may have to pack and leave.

[@thebangkokguide]

I agree with your attitude. What I always remember is that I’m actually very lucky to choose wherever I want to live, earn a good income and enjoy a nice life. Most people in the world are not so fortunate… It’s better to consider all the positives, rather than focus on negatives… for me it’s all a matter of maintaining a positive perspective and that applies wherever I might live! Cheers and safe travels!

[@MichaelSmittySmithScottsdaleAz]

@@thebangkokguide What do you do for work? I am 59 and want to retire oversea's. I would like to figure out an online job that could bring in about $10,000-20,000 us dollars until I get my social security. Great channel.

[@dqrossvideography5134]

Thanks for making this video. Still catching up with all your content and this is one of the best ones so far. There’s a plethora of videos about how wonderful Thailand is and it is indeed my one of my favourite countries in the world but it is so important to give a balanced view especially when providing info to people contemplating moving to another country. Having lived on 3 different continents I can safely say that no place is perfect. Some downsides can be anticipated but some things depend on one’s own temperament so it’s always a bit of an adventure anyway. I’ve forwarded this one to my husband as we are deciding whether to move to Thailand permanently or just spend as much time there as possible while keeping a home somewhere else. Thanks again for this video; our last move was to Australia from the uk 12 years ago. I wish I had been provided with a more balanced view at the time although they did warn us about spiders the size of my hand 😂

[@thebangkokguide]

Thank you for the kind words. That was exactly my intention in making this video…just to give some balance for people considering relocating as it’s a big decision that has plenty of pros and cons. I love living in Thailand, but it’s important to be aware of some of the challenges as well…and consider one’s own personality and whether it will match. I’d recommend trying out living here first…which is quite easy with tourist visas. If it feels right, make the full move! Cheers

[@dqrossvideography5134]

@@thebangkokguide thank you. Yes, spending as much time here as possible is the key. I’m trying all kinds of areas and I recommend Duke language school for anyone who’d like to learn Thai. I figure it’s going to take me a while to get fluent so I’ve been learning both back “home” and now here in Thailand. Your input is really valuable to people like us. Thanks again and keep going!! 😊

[@teeranit]

I grew up in Europe but was born in Thailand. Since i m relocated here 6y ago I still wonder what would be the best option when it come to build a family considering the healthcare and education cost... I start to think now it might be better for children to grow up in a more advanced society with less inequality and also more educated people (no offend to thais).

[@thebangkokguide]

I think about the same question. It’s a difficult decision as each society has its pros and cons. Thanks for the input!

[@lavista4u]

If Thailand allows long term visas for farangs, 90% of west would gladly live in Thailand for ever, even with all laws against foreigners because west is simply unlivable. The cost of living is through the roof, super high taxes, unaffordable housing, crime, doctor appointment for over six months waiting period, illegal immigration. Perhaps, 10 years ago, it would have been valid Thailand vs West comparison , right now, there is absolutely no comparison between west and Thailand. Thailand has raced ahead and kept its cost low, while west is heading for hell. All these so called western right for an individual are good on paper and talk shows in reality, life is hard in the west. On ground Thailand has lot more freedom than western countries. Thailand raced way ahead of even Philippines which many foreigners often compare

[@thebangkokguide]

Thanks for the comment. I definitely love living in Thailand. I have found that some friends were happy after moving back to their country, and others not so much. I haven’t actually been back to Canada in about 4 years… so that was before Covid and the serious inflation. I’ll go back in a couple of months. Where are you from?

[@sundayevening161]

You should be careful that there is a political party that western countries like USA , UK , EU support to win election. This party they want to change Thailand to western society. Why USA , UK , EU want this party to win? Because they want Thailand for base operation to fight with China. Now the Philippines is a proxy war to fight with China.

[@izebangpa]

Did you see a Thailand Elite visa yet ?

[@snookchalida8279]

Im from Bangkok but living in London right now and I totally agree with the statement above. Living here is such a rat race.. planning to move back to Bkk at the end of this year. However, the 2 main things that I hate about Bangkok is the traffic and air pollution.

[@kennethboehnen271]

Thailand had longterm visas. I have a 10-year visa. I bought nice cheap condo on Samui. No issues.

[@markadler8968]

In almost every single video I see about Thailand that is filmed outside I can hear one of those birds in the background.

[@thebangkokguide]

Hahah this is very accurate. They spot a KZbinr and they come and join the party!

[@sebastianhamilton5892]

Yes, it's from the "Authentic Bird Sounds from Thailand" record. Very popular with KZbinrs and very convincing!

[@Crazykidzz]

Basically Thailand is good for retirement but not making money as a expat and I see that as a good things for protecting their own people.

[@thebangkokguide]

This is true for some of the issues…although Thailand actually ranks as one of the most unequal countries in the world, with a very small minority controlling most of the wealth. This inequality isn’t a result of expats. On many issues, there is a lot of scapegoating in order to distract the populace from the real inequalities.

[@alexandersmith9499]

After spending some time in South America last summer, and having traveled there extensively decades ago, I often wonder if I made a mistake coming to Thailand for good. Granted I have a Thai partner and family so it was a no-brainer but still... Thailand, once you learn the "land of smiles" slogan is mostly BS, you realize that it is a very racist country. Not only are westerners considered to be permanent tourists, try being a hilltribe or sea gypsie with no rights or even a Thai ID. I work with them and know many who are not even allowed to leave their village safely for fear of being picked up by police... Thailand has changed so much since I first came here 40 years ago. My family owns an amazingly spectacular beach villa complex on a popular island and we have many orchards in three provinces but I know my position here will always be "a guest" subject to the whims of whatever government comes in to power....My over one million baht a year I pay in Thai taxes mean nothing....and I am now and will always be a "guest"...I am biculturally Thai and am fluent in the language - again, the color of my skin keeps me being a "guest".... I would never want to return to the US to live but I often wonder about there being many better options for people out there....After living in seven countries and traveled to 116 I know there are....

[@thebangkokguide]

Sounds like you definitely fit the profile when you pay that level of taxes and speak fluent Thai. I pay significant taxes here as well. Much, much higher than the average citizen, and on foreign derived income that acts as a direct stimulus anyway. It can definitely feel annoying to get treated exactly the same as a tourist given the tax contribution and general cultural awareness and integration. But I try to avoid feeling too irritated about it as I am generally very privileged. Overall most people in the world don’t have the option to choose where and how they live… so I balance it out with that. Cheers!

[@davidb2206]

I was the same as you -- even got paid work as a Thai translator -- and ALL of my closest 20 expat friends left Thailand (or, more accurately, were driven out). South America gives us RECIPROCAL property rights. You can buy a house there in your own name in several countries. Also a permanent residence visa -- which Thailand would NEVER issue to any of my friends, even if married and in the country for 10 years! -- is fairly quick and easy to get in Latin America.

[@PhanOT11]

As an Asian American living in the USA for nearly 40 years. I can relate to your story. I feel the same (like a foreigner) when I take my family going places in America, especially going to the remote places, or across the mostly white states.

[@thebangkokguide]

I totally understand that. As I was making the video, I was thinking that this is probably how many visible minorities feel in western countries! Cheers!

[@davidkemp5798]

It's not the same, you have the sane rights in western countries regardless of where you come from.

[@EB-jf5oi]

​@@davidkemp5798In Western countries non-Whites are very coddled as are women in general. You are totally correct. It's not comparable.

[@regnorse]

lol thats crap. no different price scales..are you serious, thats criminal offence here. only structural racism is in favor of the minorities..youve swallowed the propaganda of those who look for excuses for their bad behavior instead of looking themselves in the mirror for a change. Again in most western countries those without money are afforded the best legal counsel..even in America a judge will take up the slack in the case of a less thorough lawyer representing a poorer client. look at the no bail law changes!! extremely dangerous crims let loose no bail charges...and thats structural disadvantage?? time to take some personal responsibility for our behavior and stop looking to blame something or someone else for our self engineered predicaments.@@henrmiller5345

[@davidb2206]

@@henrmiller5345 In Thailand, you don't need the legal "advice." Money buys you a better OUTCOME! You don't think there is any structural, institutionalized racism in Thailand? Hahahahahaha. How about in China, where whites are simply not allowed to stay at hundreds of hotels? How can YOU be so blind?

[@SjaakSchulteis]

My wife is Thai and we live south of Hua Hin. But even my wife has to explain sometimes that she is Thai. Otherwise we live a happy life here and so far the changes didn't have much impact on my way of living.

[@thebangkokguide]

Sounds great! Im still living here in Bangkok as well. Been trying to figure out some workarounds 😅

[@Michibz57]

You get to the point succinctly! Really great video! I live in Bangkok and love Thailand. But I also have a house in Malaysia and am now looking at Vietnam. You summarized the housing situation well. I offer my apartments on Booking, 50% of them are rented to tourists, but it could be much better

[@thebangkokguide]

Thank for the kind words! Hope the rental business is going well!

[@regnorse]

why not buy Thailand? no customers?

[@ontariobeaver9376]

1. Canadian pension is substantially less than 2000 baks per person. 2. Even with 2,000 CAD, you will be living in poverty. 3. Canada would never give you 2000 baks if you live outside the country; at best, you will receive 30% of it. 4. The environment, healthcare system, and food quality are incompatible with Canadian realities.

[@thebangkokguide]

Pension and old age security adds up to about $2000 currently...but yes, if you need to pay rent then it is definitely poverty.

[@vaska1999]

​@@thebangkokguide That's the maximum possible amount; most people don't receive anything close to $2,000 a month, while our cost of living has gone through the roof. A lot of working age Canadians are struggling as never before and homelessness has spread to mid-sized cities, too.

[@ErikBlair]

Yes, these reasons are valid for most westerners, accept those from the United States. Because in the US, they don't have quality healthcare, and the healthcare is very expensive. The cost of living in the US is enormous, and a person living on social security is forced to live in extreme poverty. Housing in the US is ridiculously expensive, and despite being a US citizen, people are forced to work themselves to death forever, just to make ends meet. They live in an ever-declining state of depression and an undignified dystopian society where the level of stress from uncertainty and diminishing returns rivals what it must be like living in a third-world country under a monstrous dictatorship. Therefore, if a US citizen were to somehow escape the US to live in Thailand, their lives are immediately enriched and their chances for happiness are at least double that of the US for a cost of living that's less than half as much as the US.

[@fjackson4382]

Agreed. I'd say the health care in the US is good quality if you can afford it. But everything else is for sure accurate.

[@JohnRamz-ww4sd]

The US probably has the best health care on earth. However, the out of pocket costs for medical insurance is $$$$$$

[@ErikBlair]

@@JohnRamz-ww4sdI disagree. Many countries have better quality healthcare

[@thebangkokguide]

The lack of universal healthcare in the US definitely changes the equation. That being said, wait-times in Canada can render it somewhat useless as well...

[@ErikBlair]

@@thebangkokguide​​⁠the US has the same long wait times, and they often get cancelled and we have to start over. Insurance often refuses to cover what they’re supposed to cover, stalling, until the person dies. The US is one of the worst countries in the world to have an illness.

[@teagreentree]

I recently moved from the "One 9 Five" condo (near Jodd Fair) to a much less touristy area in Bangkok. After all, being near the Phra Ram 9 station was draining.

[@thebangkokguide]

It is definitely way too buys, especially with Jodd Fair expansion!

[@teagreentree]

By the way, we always enjoy the content of your videos and the easy going nature about yourself. (We're from the Pacific Northwest as well) @@thebangkokguide

[@sallylee6934]

You can own a condo and you can buy a house or villa with a 30 year lease on the property which can be extended 2 times plus you can leave it for your children.

[@thebangkokguide]

True. Although I don't love the overbuilt condo market here.

[@johnschneidhorst3406]

The best assessment I've seen so far.

[@thebangkokguide]

Thanks for the kind words! Cheers

[@jefftanasse6958]

Seen one big temple ..seen them all... just dont go to tourist attractions that charge a fee. Groceries ..gas..clothes..same for all. Get your Thai gf or friend to buy negotiable stuff while you wait around the corner..

[@thebangkokguide]

Good tips! Thanks for the input!

[@molonlabe9602]

I don't need my Thai wife to do my bidding. If I can't get the price that I want to pay, I politely walk away and wait for the next opportunity to buy what I'm interested in. Important expensive things (such as appliances or new vehicles) are usually purchased through national chain stores where there is no haggling. All the other stuff is "walk-away-able".

[@magicfire1]

I love life in Asia. 95% of the people are respectful. Only thing that can convince to leave is the pollution / Traffic. Hope pollution issues gonna be tackle in the next few years. Otherwise, life is too convenient. Hell no coming back in western Europe.

[@thebangkokguide]

I agree. I like the respectful culture. It makes for a very family friendly overall environment as well. Tackling the pollution would be a huge improvement.

[@magicfire1]

@@thebangkokguide it's also very safe, perfect environment for kids.

[@ront3136]

I'd say you nailed it with the description of Thailand as an ethnocentric society. Indeed it is. I lived there for six years and yes, I was ALWAYS treated differently as a farang. But it never felt like it was coming from a place of nefarious intent. I did make the effort to speak Thai, and it made a huge difference in the interactions I had with people from vendors in the market adding extra portions to my purchase to taxi drivers waiting in their car after I got out to make sure they'd dropped me off at the right place to girls constantly flirting with me. It was cute and endearing :)

[@thebangkokguide]

I agree. I don't feel that it's nefarious either. I think that it's best to embrace the farang identity, and then its quite enjoyable! Cheers!

[@kevinj5989]

Cal, you're way off on the $2K/month for pensions in Canada. It's more like $866 basic and $400 Old Age Supplement (if you qualify for it).

[@thebangkokguide]

Thanks for the input. I think maybe the number I was told is on the upper end of CPP with OAS. But I see that the average is lower. Tough to survive on that!

[@scott80ca]

Totally agree. Im in the Philippines part time but its quite similar, and i see similar problems that some expats have.

[@thebangkokguide]

I imagine that it’s similar for any non-immigration based society. Cheers

[@SearchingforSage]

Really mature and helpful information. Thanks for sharing!

[@thebangkokguide]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@indeedideat1114]

คุณcalต้องลองไปอยู่พะงัน ผมไปที่นั่น ผมรู้สึกเหมือนไม่ใช่ประเทศไทยแล้ว555 คนไทยดูเป็นคนต่างชาติมากเลย

[@thebangkokguide]

Haha this is true. I went before… too many westerners 😂

[@svenw.6918]

​@@thebangkokguidei've had the same feeling in Chiang Mai. Feels like walking around in an east European Holiday Destination 😅

[@chrisjuricichxl5]

ok, makes sense. my wife and I retired to the Philippines which in many ways is similarly situated on the economic spectrum; lots of corruption, lots of poverty, poor education system, inadequate health care, etc. BUT...we have a better life here than in the States with our income currently. It allows us to travel a bit; we built our retirement home so no mortgage, just our credit card bills which we usually pay off significantly each month. We just got back from Thailand; three weeks in Chiang Mai and Chiang Rai--next week I'm off to the north of Luzon here with friends. It's great.

[@thebangkokguide]

I agree with your perspective. I choose to stay here as well. I’ll have to visit the Philippines sometime soon! Cheers

[@chrisjuricichxl5]

@@thebangkokguide the joke between me and my British pal who also has retired here is that while yes...foreign countries DO have practices that seem crazy or 'unwestern' or protective etc that can be vexing, we both say about the Philippines 'It's a shithole, but it's OUR shithole.' All things being equal, I endure the negatives with good humor but I think on balance I'd prefer to live in Thailand. Wife also likes it...but not as much as I do.

[@patriciatusay1768]

I can understand what you are saying for the younger people who move to Thailand and work for the low wages etc. It makes sense. At some point - they will need a pension or if American -Social Security. What about retirement? What about people who are done with working in the US or wherever they are from and move there for an example. At 70, I will receive a good pension that I can get here and social security that I can get here as well. I do not have to work and prefer a condo. I have no desire to own anything in Thailand. I will try to learn the language and assimilate as much as I can. As a former ESL Professor at a University and k -12 teacher -I may try to work to teach or tutor to keep busy while traveling in and the around this part of the world. Health Insurance is very low in Thailand - even though I still need to keep my Health insurance in the US incase. I will need both. I have no children so I do not have to worry about educating them. Money will not be a problem nor access to it. In fact, I get to save much more in Thailand for large trips or whatever I want. In the US, I will become house poor and have to watch every penny as they say. Is there a similar comparison with senior returning home as well ? I prefer Bangkok and Chiang Mai as I am a city girl from NY. The senior ex pat community seem to have different end goals at this point in their lives. Do you have any insights regarding the seniors who move, stay or move back home? Thanks!

[@thebangkokguide]

I think that it is ideal for retirement. I haven't heard many stories about seniors returning home, as the cost of living and quality of life on a fixed income is much better in Thailand. Your plan sounds very good. Actually with the digital economy, even young people can do very well here. I think the primary difficult is for people with young children, and this is by far the most common reason that many of my friends have decided to leave over time. Cheers!

[@vaska1999]

I'm a retired college professor (English) here in Canada and can't stand the climate and our excessively strained health care system any longer. I'll be moving to a lower-cost-of-living part of Europe this year and am learning as much as I can about Thailand as I may want to spend 3-4 months a year there on a regular basis.

[@thebangkokguide]

@@vaska1999 I’ve heard the healthcare system is having challenges. Your plan sounds good. Thailand is perfect for a few months of the year. Just make sure to get good health insurance as well! Cheers

[@vaska1999]

@@thebangkokguide Yes, sadly, our health care system is seriously below par. It's another reason I'm leaving.

[@nickeyfynn3270]

If you plan to love in thailand for ak extended period of time, learning to PROPERLY speak read and write thai will change your experience for the better.

[@thebangkokguide]

I agree. I can speak some Thai but should spend more time studying.

[@michaeldileo8815]

Another insightful video! One thing I will say about the Thais always perceiving Farang as tourists is learning the language helps out a lot! I'm not fluent, but I have a firm grasp of the language and Thais routinely think I live there when I come to visit (only been there twice). I decided to learn because I will eventually move within the next few years.

[@thebangkokguide]

Thanks for the kind words. I definitely agree with that. I can speak some Thai, although I need to learn more as well. I think it also differs alot based on the areas. Haha I made this video after a day out in some of the more touristy areas in the city. Probably not a coincidence there.

[@HectorGarcia-nb2ld]

The Thai language sucks like the Spanish language .

[@consulthai]

I think you made very good points and reasons ,particularly for families . For retirees it's a different proposition. Whether you're a pensioner or self funded the difference of cost of living when you're no longer in the work force is substantial. There are two long term visas available now depending on your circumstances . If you're a long term resident here the double pricing can be overcome ; you can apply for a yellow book and a Pink ID card and identify yourself as a resident and not a tourist, you won't be charged extra and I can vouch for it . The decision on whether to stay or repatriate is very much dependent on individual circumstances . But you made a good report about the issues . How about the home is where the heart is?😉 Does that apply to you?

[@davidb2206]

I was fluent after the third year, usually walking with my wife, and it made little difference. Especially in government offices and Immigration. I heard some god-awful stuff when they didn't know I was fluent.

[@toomuchdrivetothrive]

Good analysis of Thailand. I have worked and lived there on and off for 30 years, and other Asian countries. Asia is a lot like the TV Show Magnum with Tom Seleck. He lived in a beautiful place as a guest and could stay on the property as long as he liked, and do as he please but was always a guest. Sometimes Higgins made it hard on him, but it was all good. That is Thailand and Asia in general for foreigners.

[@thebangkokguide]

Good analogy! Very accurate. Cheers

[@littletravelmonkey6727]

Mexico real estate has gone through the roof due to lack of land ownership restrictions.

[@thebangkokguide]

That’s true. I actually agree with the laws around foreign ownership restrictions. Relaxing those would be too damaging to affordability for local people. This has been a trend all over the world.

[@johnsmith-gs4qf]

All very good points. I love Thailand as a tourist, but I would never live their permanently unless I had at a minimum a good pension, Social Security, good savings, etc.

[@thebangkokguide]

I think it's more built for tourism, which is quite understandable.

[@williambamford593]

You lose SS after 6 months out of country

[@DeanBKK]

​@@williambamford593 No. You don't. Please read on the SS website.

[@milovee1238]

It's not just Thailand or foreign countries. Years ago I bought property in Vermont and got to know some of the old timers there and I remember one old guy saying “yep, been here 30 years and I'll die a stranger.”

[@thebangkokguide]

That’s a good point! I also think that friends who have left and returned home probably have a lot of complaints after they arrived back in their home countries. I think I will try to contact some and ask them.. I know that I did when I returned home for a year after 3 years here. Thanks for the input!

[@makmcqueen8634]

Very good video mate. I have a young family and am currently facing this decision.

[@thebangkokguide]

Cheers. It's a tough decision.

[@setthaphuaphar3657]

ผมว่า มันอยู่ที่การปรับตัวนะ เพราะฝรั่งที่อยู่ประเทศไทยได้ส่วนใหญ่จะอยู่กับ ธรรมชาติ และความพอเพียง ยกตัวอย่าง คุณแคลอยู่เมืองไทยมา7ปี แต่คุณแคลดูเหมือนฝรั่ง ที่เป็นฝรั่ง มาอยู่เมืองไทย ไม่ค่อยเหมือนฝรั่งที่กลายเป็นคนไทย มันสัมผัสได้ บางกรณีฝรั่งบางคน ว่าคนไทยโง่สื่อสารภาษาอังกฤษไม่ได้ คือ คุณอยู่ไทยแต่อยากจะสื่อสารเป็นภาษาอังกฤษ อยากได้ โน้น นี่ นั่น เหมือนอยากให้ประเทศไทยปรับตัวเข้าไปหาคุณ ถ้าเป็นแบบนี้ จะไปอยู่ที่ประเทศไหนก็ยากครับ

[@thebangkokguide]

ฉันเห็นด้วย. การเรียนพูดไทยเป็นสิ่งสำคัญ... ฉันกำลังเรียนรู้ช้าๆ 555 ขอให้เป็นวันที่ดี!

[@indeedideat1114]

@@thebangkokguideอืม เป็นมุมมองที่น่าสนใจนะครับ ครั้งหน้าคุณต้องทำคลิปภาษาไทย อาจดูเป็นคนไทยมากขึ้น555

[@kittenastrophy5951]

@@thebangkokguide You still have plenty of time ahead for improving your Thai language. take it easy, find something fun or beneficial in it and you'll enjoy learning, bit by bit. Lot of foreigners who are fluent in Thai also blend well in Thai culture either modern urban community or traditional up country village.

[@EB-jf5oi]

I agree with this.

[@Paul_R1206]

My situation is different. My child is grown and I have 2 grandkids. Once my house sells I’ll have that money plus my Social Security and pension. I don’t plan on buying a house. And with all of the condos you say they have to rent, if a foreigner knew how to really do it right, he could negotiate his own price for a year. As long as you pay that year in advance.

[@thebangkokguide]

Yeah I think you have a good plan overall. Don’t get me wrong. I love Thailand. Just want to provide a bit of balance in perspective for everyone 😊

[@markadler8968]

You will be doing far better than the majority of people who think they can make it in that country as you will a large sum of money plus a pension. Being that that financial situation will give you the flexibility to change locations/countries on a whim and to travel. I have the same plan as you but I am just a 7-8 years away from collecting a pension. Be careful about paying a year in advance, there are are stories about people getting scammed in that country paying in advance for a condo.

[@thebangkokguide]

I agree with the point about not paying a year in advance. There normally aren't many advantages, but there is a lot of added risk.

[@Paul_R1206]

@@thebangkokguide The advantage would be if you found a place you wanted, and they wanted $600 US per month. But yet you don’t feel like it’s worth $600 but more like $450 or $500. Most foreigners go there and ask if they paid for a year, how much would they take off. Then they tell them $25. So if/when I do it, if the place is worth $450 to me I’ll offer $5,400 for the entire year. Like you said Cal, they’ve built so many that they can’t rent out. I’ll be in Pattaya once I get there. Yes and I do understand what the two of you are speaking of, but you have to be at a nice credible spot. You’ll be able to tell if it’s shady once you get there. You’re in the position to dictate your rent instead of letting them dictate it for you. That’s all I’m saying. Never give them responsibility on how much you should pay if you want a deal. You do that on your own.

[@regnorse]

it wont work that way, someone other than the person you negotiated with can move the goal posts a few months later. good luck@@Paul_R1206

[@shoiku4734]

Expats living in Japan say the same thing about wanting to be Japanese. But fact is, there's no way any foreigner can be part of a local population because the foreigner didn't suffer the same issues as a local had to endure in childhood & adulthood. It's different with regards to everything. A foreigner's brain, thought processes & experiences are different. As an "outsider", as long as there's banking & other benefits to being a rich foreigner, there's no need to become a local. With regards to Thailand, I would not stay long-term.

[@thebangkokguide]

I agree with this perspective. Personally, I don't mind being an outsider. I think many people that complain about it don't realize that there are advantages to being an "outsider". The social norms for each society are very different, and when I speak with Thai friends they often envy the life as an outsider because they feel constrained by all the societal norms within Thai society. I think the saying "the grass is always greener on the other side" is accurate. Cheers!

[@regnorse]

why not long term in Thailand?

[@svenw.6918]

Doesn't matter if you live here 1 year or 20 years or are even born here as a farang. You will always be the farang/Tourist. Some can not handle that after paying taxes in Thailand whole their life 🙃 Laws are changing all the time. I learned to go with the flow and just accept certain things here in Thailand but that doesn't mean i need to fully embrace it and join the stupidity that comes along with it. I love it here and the things i dont love here i will find myself solution for. Everybody happy 🙏

[@thebangkokguide]

Correct. A lot of it is just the sheer number of tourists. This is a tourism economy, so it's understandable that people will normally think you are tourist if you're from a western country. Personally it doesn't bother me either. There is also a benefit of existing in your own world outside of societal norms and expectations! Cheers!

[@jollykate8562]

In my opinion, Thailand is a place where people come to relax and enjoy life mostly. If you come here without your income from where you come from so I don’t think it’s a good idea unless you have anywhere remote job. I think you made the right decision to go back and find a real job to do for yourself instead of doing nothing in Thailand. I believe you will come back whenever you’re ready. ❤😊

[@thebangkokguide]

Thank you for the kind words. Actually I'm on a western salary here and do remote work... for me, it mostly comes down to the education system. This is also why many friend have chosen to leave. Cheers!

[@siriphansriphan9450]

เห็นด้วยคะ กลับไปทำมาหากินที่บ้านดีกว่าเพราะว่าคุณอายุยังน้อย มาเที่ยวเมืองไทยบ้าง. เมื่อคุณอายุมากเเละเกษีรณเเล้ว ค่อยมาอยู่เมืองไทยนานๆนะคะ คนไทยยินดีต้อนรับคุณเสมอคะ

[@thebangkokguide]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@wonderwhy2335]

I’ve learned about Canada having health care crisis so I’m not sure moving back to CND for health care is the way to go. Moving back for free education would definitely be a good reason. I do understand not having the same rights as other Thais esp in property investment is a draw back for foreigners. As a Thai I think this particular law is extremely important. Most Thais are so poor that without this law, foreigners will take over most properties in Thailand. Race will always come in the way of blending in no matter where you are in the world.

[@thebangkokguide]

I agree with the property law as well. It’s actually one of the main reasons western countries have cost of living problems…too much foreign money in real estate investment. I applaud this policy in Thailand. Overall I like living in Thailand. It’s a very nice place. I just think about what is best for family and kids. Cheers!

[@TheRealFamespear]

What? Been here twenty years. I love Thailand! Wouldn’t live anywhere else. It’s really my second home as I first came here 35 years ago. So half of my life I’ve had a relationship with Thailand.

[@thebangkokguide]

It’s a great place. I agree.

[@tony-ce7qp]

great video and well wishes to you!

[@thebangkokguide]

Thank you! Best wishes to you as well!

[@TalkZik]

I agree with the cost of visiting the place. The government should give special rights to long-term residents.

[@thebangkokguide]

Thank you for the input 😊🙏

[@ErikOdinsvej]

Thank you for your video, (I am from Denmark) I have visit Thailand 30 times now, normally 6 week each time but after I get retired I stay 6 month now, I also love thailand and the people, have an gf now for 10 years and enjoy thailand every time, but I also have some point that is not so nice : smoke from farmers (Chiang Mai) and Thai gonverment new rules and visa work every time I come, I think that if I didn't have a gf, then I will try some other country in Asia. again Thanks for your video, very informativ.

[@thebangkokguide]

Thanks for your input! I definitely agree with the pollution as well. I would add this to the list in the video. Cheers!

[@guymandudely324]

After 14 years of working and living in Bangkok, the Byzantine visa regs forced me to move back to the US. However, during my years in Thailand, I played the US stock market and eventually diverted my winnings into buying rental properties in the US. When I was forced to leave LOS, I had/have a rental income for my support and retirement 'career.' ESL/EFL teachers who have no savings and live and drink their income are a sorry lot - and then the retirement age in LOS for teachers is 60. Where does that leave older teachers who haven't prepared financially? As a young man from Canada, you are best to return to your home country to continue or build a career. Thailand is a death-trap for 20 and 30 year-old Westerners trying to build a career, but Thailand is a fun holiday destination despite the very long flight.

[@thebangkokguide]

The visa stuff gets very annoying over time. Actually I have followed a fairly similar path as you, and I’m considering doing the same in Canada. There is a rather large gap between people who focus on investing and productivity and the ESL and weekly binge drinking crowd and I totally agree with your assessment. Cheers!

[@guymandudely324]

@@thebangkokguide I am cheering you on as you return to forge a career in Canada. As you established yourself in whatever field you choose, you will find that you become a more attractive prospect to a Thai girl/partner/wife who understands that the ESL crowd is relatively low status. Thai women seek higher status in their relationship with farang, and by building a career in Canada, you will have a better future in your career and your love life in Thailand if that is your interest. Safe journey!

[@คนส่องเหมียว]

ด้วยความแตกต่างทางสังคม อัตลักษณ์ วิถีชีวิต จึงเป็นเรื่องยากที่ชาวตะวันตกจะอยู่อาศัยที่นี่เหมือนบ้านเกิดไปจนวันตาย นอกจากจะสร้างชุมชนต่างชาติให้เข้มแข็งขึ้นมาในสังคมไทย เพื่อที่จะไม่รู้สึกว่าโดดเดี่ยว และพยายามที่จะหาช่องทางเพิ่มรายได้เพื่อเป็นหลักประกันในการดำรงชีพ แต่ด้วยขนาดเศรษฐกิจที่ไม่ได้ใหญ่มาก และคนไทยเองก็มีกำลังซื้อน้อย จึงเป็นเรื่องยากที่จะสร้างรายได้เหมือนประเทศที่พัฒนาแล้วที่มีกำลังซื้อสูง นอกซะจากจะหาพาร์ทเนอร์คนไทยเพื่อทำธุรกิจที่จะได้เงินจากต่างชาติ

[@thebangkokguide]

Thank you for the input! I understand and agree with your perspective as well.

[@ccbkkboy]

Great video with great points, personally I left with the wife due to upcoming children’s education along with buying property, in the future when schools finished I will return :-)

[@thebangkokguide]

That’s the most challenging part of staying long term.. kids and school. Hope all is good!

[@Ginnyyy16]

Great video 😊❤

[@thebangkokguide]

Thank you!

[@larryellington3543]

This summer I will be eligible for a $2,000 per month Social security pension. I also have about $400k in savings. I'm single. I'm thinking for that kind of money I could have a very comfortable lifestyle there as a retiree? (I have been to Thailand twice, last time in 2017 for a few weeks, traveled all over).

[@amandaroberts5111]

Me love youl ong time lol

[@larryellington3543]

😂

[@thebangkokguide]

You can definitely live quite well with that. I think ideal for your situation.

[@duenodeactivisionblizzard5478]

With that money you can live like a king in thailand. I envy you!

[@michaelphillips4452]

Enjoy your Canadian winter,...

[@thebangkokguide]

a balmy -40 day over there right now haha

[@housie8785]

Which part Thailand best to go. I like stay near by the beach. Planning to come this June

[@thebangkokguide]

Lots of options. Islands are great for the beach. You might want to go to Krabi or Phuket and the southern islands. Definitely fit that itinerary!

[@Hammocktraveller]

Hi. Your points make sense about Thailand and the general feeling is that they don't want expats, just short term Chinese and Indians. But when you compare to Canada I don't follow you. Guaranteed 2k$ pension? Not sure and if get that you can hardly live. The average cost for a 1 bedroom apartment in Montreal is now over 1,400$. Plus the minimum 100$ per week for grocery that doesn't leave much for medication and extras. Of course no car. healthcare is " free" but I am still waiting for a surgery needed 3 years ago. So for me, with a 2,000$ pension ( and that is if I stay 6 months in Canada) my home country is not affordable for me and milion of people anymore. I love Thailand but it is also getting more expensive every year, but still possible to live well. There are also Vietnam and the Philippines.... 7:45

[@thebangkokguide]

Thanks for the comment. I think it’s generally getting tougher. I only mentioned the pension as it would ultimately be zero over here, and I’ve met older folks that are definitely in a difficult financial situation. But I agree that costs have risen while services have declined.

[@anna_m59]

I spend 3 months in Thailand just currently.. I would agree with every aspect that mention..local welcome you as a tourist for the $$$& that’s pretty much.. the disrespecting the street / traffic is very sad and unsafe.. I will return as tourist maybe but nothing more!

[@thebangkokguide]

Traffic and walking can definitely be a challenge! Cheers

[@regtowers4914]

Well in USA - no universal healthcare, few companies today offer pensions, rents housing costs are astronomical as is car insurance & must have a car here, no safety net until social security kicks in at 67 but most ppl not enough to afford basics & the Repubs are hell bend on taking away social security and Medicare / social programs are minimal- and than there’s the guns and safety issues

[@thebangkokguide]

This is true. The US definitely lacks the social safety nets of most of the other western countries. It's unfortunate.

[@maniastrat]

It is true what you said & why even we did eventually move back...but we still have our home in Thailand & visit 3 months most years. The biggest drawback is once you reach 65 Health insurance is not only expensive but sketchy on not covering this or that. Also at some point many expats realize this is not where they want it to end so thinking about the homeland you realize your also maybe wasting years that you could use to earn now & won't be able to later. But yes we like you also love Thailand & our years there. We may even return permanently one day but to be honest the benefits of the home country is hard to beat & was really obvious in the C-19 years too

[@thebangkokguide]

Thanks for the input. I agree with the health insurance point. It is a tricky industry. Overall, I noticed a considerable trend of KZbinrs making videos telling people to quit their job and move to Thailand, so I thought it's important to make a counter video to give a little bit of balance. Cheers!

[@coedshowers]

my filipino wife got talked to in thai everywhere we went. They told her "dont talk just say how many tickets so you dont get tourist charged"

[@thebangkokguide]

Yeah that can be especially tough for westerners that live here and pay taxes…random Asian tourist walks up and gets Thai price immediately 😂

[@SteveWalterstheMoneyInfant]

Yep, education was our reason for leaving Thailand. 2 kids would have meant ~48k USD/year just for schooling. That more than outweighs the otherwise 'cheap' living in Thailand. Once the kids are off to college we'll be back :)

[@thebangkokguide]

Education is the big one. It's definitely been the number one reason that I've seen people leave. Cheers

[@jdshemp]

Average Social Security check in America is $1,767.03, not much when the rent is $1300......

[@thebangkokguide]

Poor is the new normal

[@indeedideat1114]

ผมคิดว่า คุณมองมันอย่างแตกฉานจริง และเข้าใจยิ่งกว่าคนไทยเสียอีก คุณพูดถูกทุกเรื่อง ฉันชอบมากที่คุณเข้าใจเรื่องการถูกซื้อโดยชาติที่ร่ำรวยกว่า เมื่อเปรียบเทียบกับกัมพูชา รัฐบาลต้องบาลานซ์ให้ดีในเรื่องนี้ ฉันรู้สึกดีมากจริงๆที่คนต่างชาติอยากเข้ามาอยู่ในไทย แต่ก็ต้องตระหนักถึงคนไทยที่จะรับภาระแฝงด้วยเหมือนกัน เรื่องประกันสุขภาพ และเรื่องการศึกษาเป็นอุปสรรคแน่นอนสำหรับผู้ไม่พร้อมด้านการเงิน

[@thebangkokguide]

Thank you for the kind words! Cheers 🙏😊

[@magicfire1]

Canada housing / cost of living is crazy. Wish in 7 years, it would be less worse than today.

[@thebangkokguide]

Yeah I was looking at prices recently. It’s crazy how much prices went up.

[@markadler8968]

It will be double. It is impossible to build enough housing in Canada to keep up with population growth due to several factors.

[@regnorse]

so why dont those paid to run the place slow down the population/immigration growth?@@markadler8968

[@tooyoungtobeold8756]

Good video. The secret to being more accepted is to speak some Thai. It helps a lot.

[@thebangkokguide]

I agree. Definitely. Cheers

[@blackcurrantpop]

I plan on living in Thailand for only 3 months out of the year and staying in the West for 6 months and choosing another destination for 3 months. Living in one place all year round gets old

[@thebangkokguide]

It’s a good plan! I have many friends who do this. Cheers

[@sunrise-yq3dy]

If foreigners are lucky being classified second and third class people, fine. But remember there are others countries in the sun, South America. Here you can own your own villa, business plot of land (100%) Brazil also welcome Westerners. Thailand has nothing of that, the foreigner is an underdog in many aspects.

[@thebangkokguide]

Yeah I have friends in Colombia as well. They say good things! Need to go for a visit sometime. Thanks for the input!

[@georgelazenby3607]

I live in China, so I'm used to the equivalent of 'farang' over here. It's not so much an issue where I live, as there are a lot of foreigners living in the area, but once you leave the cocoon of that area, it becomes more obvious. Little kids nudge their parents on the street and speak Cantonese or Mandarin, telling their parents to look at the foreigner. Sometimes you'll get random people taking photos of you. On one rare occasion, I had a group of guys ask my girlfriend, who's now my wife, if I was her boyfriend. She said I was, then asked the questioner if the guy he was with was his boyfriend. Good times. I know I'll never 'fit' entirely into the culture here, but that's not a problem. Most of the time, I don't even realise I'm not at 'home' anymore. I just go through the daily motions of life. It's suited me fine thus far. I am considering Thailand as a retirement destination. If I can survive her in China, I'm pretty sure I could do the same there.

[@thebangkokguide]

I have friends who live, or have lived in China. I think if you did fine there, you'll do fine in Thailand. It is generally more internationalized here. Cheers!

[@molonlabe9602]

Unless you're independently wealthy, don't come to Thailand to stay permanently until you have everything set in your life, including a regular stable minimum $2,000 monthly income flow and NO DEBT. If you plan to retire in Thailand in the future and can come (like between jobs) and legally teach (or legally work another job) for 2 years, you can get into the social healthcare for the rest of your life. But you have to enter the healthcare BEFORE age 60. After age 60, you cannot get in, but if you're already in, you can stay in. Of course that limits you to your local designated government hospital and requires a $12/month premium but it's far better than purchasing healthcare on the open market. And as he says...you're not in Kansas anymore, you must adapt and accept Thailand as it is, not what you think it should be.

[@PeterBren]

Why are they leaving? Main reason nearby countries are better alternatives. For instance here in Cambodia, 300 usd visa and you are in for a year, with none of the money making immigration rackets of Thailand.

[@thebangkokguide]

I’ve met quite a few people who have moved to neighboring countries for exactly this reason. Cheers