5 Reasons this guitar is BETTER than a GIBSON Les Paul!

[@TheRosswise]

I have an old Agile LP clone that I paid $300 for, and I prefer that guitar over my Gibsons. Everyone involved in making that guitar in that factory in South Korea really outdid themselves that day.

[@ibanez2010]

I miss the days of $300 Agiles, but honestly, even at the current pricing they are a hell of a deal. I paid $500 for my last one (still made in Korea!) and there's no way any major brand could touch it for less than $1k.

[@TheRosswise]

@@ibanez2010 I still kick myself for not getting a custom or a spaulted, but I wouldn't trade for my old-school AL3000 with the abalone inlays.

[@ibanez2010]

@@TheRosswise Hey man same here! I missed the spalted and rootbeer finish days....Those were killer!

[@winstonsmith6457]

I love gibson explorers

[@32shumble]

Does it have the famous Gibson LP removable headstock though?

[@johnthemachine]

oh god

[@6thUser]

Setlist- 2:17 Heading Out To The Highway 3:44 Electric Eye 4:33 Victim Of Changes 6:11 Guitar solo 7:27 Metal Gods ...🤘😊

[@poil27]

all classics all the time !!

[@Silentservice77]

For 3:44 I thought it was sabaton fields of Verdun

[@dex6360]

Tuning?

[@poil27]

@@dex6360 probably standard

[@be3lzebot454]

No shit Sherlock. :D

[@tylerbailey5357]

Your chops have come a long way man holy hell

[@deepsquatproductions2227]

Epiphone is also doing a lot better these days. They fix the headstock angle, stay in tune, and have pretty good features for the price.

[@snap-off5383]

That's what these harley benton, 10s, chibson et al are: epiphone file printouts on a cnc machine.

[@Cody2nd]

the new epiphone sg’s for $1000 are ridiculously nice and come with a super nice hard case as well. Much better buy than the Gibson.

[@PaperBanjo64]

I have the Noel Gallagher Riveira, that thing is beautiful, lightweight, and stays in tune way better than any Les Paul! But I'm pretty sure it's not a "metal" guitar but it can nail that hard rock sound I've been chasing for years.

[@Yettibuhayat]

no epiphones does not stay in tune, i own a stuio with gr0ver tuners

[@jralanmorgan]

I always take a look after pulling out.

[@mattcrackswise]

Glen: "States have low wages and poor labour laws!" Also Glen: "How does China make guitars so cheap??" ...

[@mysupersuperglide]

Thank you

[@Slayer-John904]

If you want to make more money learn a trade or gain specialized knowledge. Our government has regulated good jobs out of the US. $17 an hour to make Gibson guitars? No wonder their quality is garbage!

[@SpectreSoundStudios]

How dare I suggest those that build overpriced guitars be able to afford to live!!!

[@mattcrackswise]

@@SpectreSoundStudios oh I 100% agree, both on workers rights and the environmental issues. But for every legitimate criticism against the conditions for the working class in America, the situation is significantly worse for Chinese workers. The main difference is that Gibson has a legacy behind their name and (in theory) care about maintaining their brand and reputation, whereas "10S" could disappear tomorrow and leave all their current customers in the lurch.

[@mattcrackswise]

@@Slayer-John904 *deregulated

[@bysykler4959]

I'll decide which guitar is best for me, thanks.

[@anandgarde13]

I'd stay away from brands like 10S. They are an Aliexpress Chibson builder so things like the Grovers on them are likely fakes. Then there's the stories of people being scammed and never receiving the guitars they ordered from 10S

[@snap-off5383]

Yeah I'd bet dollars to donuts the tuners are counterfeit, and the ones that come with "EMG" pickups come with counterfeit ones. Just buy a chibson and put good hardware in it.

[@HandOfMetal]

While you might be right with 10S, I doubt that they would send a guitar to Glenn with fake Grovers. Even if they did, those are some pretty damn good fakes then if it stays in tune.

[@snap-off5383]

@@HandOfMetal yeah they're fake, you can get any Chibson with fake name brand tuners of many different brands.

[@HandOfMetal]

@@snap-off5383 In that case they are pretty "good"fakes if the guitar stays in tune.

[@snap-off5383]

@@HandOfMetal Yeah, tuners aren't complicated. And its not like they're not just copying the ones they're commissioned to make for companies like epiphone, jackson and Ibanez they just put the gears in a different shell that says "Grover" on it. The thing with made in china really isn't a _quality_ problem its a _quality control_ problem. In america if a bunk product is produced we have mechanisms that recycle that product or throw it away to keep the brand from being tarnished by the bad product. That concept doesn't exist in asia. They're more of a mind to sell it in case it works for you, and to replace it if it doesn't. To them a replacement warranty is equal to high quality, cuz eventually you can get a good one.

[@alijankhan3330]

Your candor and profanity and the fact that other people appreciate it is refreshing. Makes me feel less guilty about my own candor and profanity.

[@RobertoSunga]

Usually youtubers get special review guitars that are better than stock. Like with the prs silversky se, all youtubers said they were great but the ones out in the wild don't seem to be as great. Now as someone who used to play schecters exclusively, the first time I played my gibson lp 50s, it felt like I was playing a real guitar for the first time. All my schecters went for sale on reverb and now I only have gibsons, a couple strats and a prs. I even have two 7 string les Pauls. They sound and play beautiful with no tuning issues.

[@OscarEddieGarcia]

What's up Robert!

[@joeking433]

Yeah, the same. Nothing compares to a Gibson. They just can't copy it! And 99% of the Gibson hate online is from PR people being paid to hate on Gibson guitars or from owners who can't afford one.

[@bradhienzachary]

Well I’m not sure what is better but you made that guitar sound good.

[@thisguy2973]

I own three Gibson Les Pauls, each one from a different price tier, and the quality is definitely better the more you spend. With that being said, tuning has been an issue in the past, but what’s helped only recently is I started paying a luthier to help with setup/upkeep starting with the mid-tier model. What he discovered is the nut slot was cut lower than it should be and the angle of the backside was causing the nut slots themselves to come to a point. He replaced the nut with a handcut bone nut that was tall enough for the guitar and it’s been a dream guitar ever since. Every time I pull it out, it’s in tune. At the end of the day, I don’t necessarily think it’s completely a build quality issue, but rather that their luthiers aren’t taking the time for a proper setup. My luthier said nut replacements are a part of a standard setup if it’s needed, and the range when getting a setup is 75-105 total depending on what’s needed. In short, find a good luthier to setup your Les Pauls and they’ll be at this $550 guitar’s playability. With all that being said and liking the gibsons I have, I probably would pick an LTD Eclipse over a Gibson any day. I’ve played them as well and they’re very impressive guitars with incredible playability.

[@CatalystOfFire]

I would recommend reconsidering how much time and money should be necessary for one expensive guitar to become par with nearly every other guitar on the wall at a music store.

[@thisguy2973]

@@CatalystOfFire this is true, and for me, it’s something I learned over time. I’ve concluded that my $400 Yamaha Pacifica Single-cut(they made them around ‘95) keeps better tuning and I’ve never gotten it professionally setup.

[@thisguy2973]

@todd moore I initially picked a graptech, but the luthier couldn’t install it because Gibson milled the slot so deep that the graptech factory height was barely high enough to clear the first fret. So we went with bone because he had a bone blank, but he cut and rounded off so well, you’d think a machine did it.

[@Bassdriver]

@@thisguy2973 my experience with Yamaha gear has always been very good. They make solid, good sounding stuff. I'd much rather get a 2nd hand Yamaha bass (I've had two, planning to get another one) than any new Chinese piece of gear.

[@thisguy2973]

@@Bassdriver no joke, my main guitar is a Yamaha RGX420S (the non-drop 6 model). It has a licensed FR and kicks so much ass. I bought it from Mars Music in Dallas in 2002 and they had so many on clearance that they were only 199. I got it knocked down to $179 for a small imperfection in the finish on the neck joint. I see them on reverb used and dinged up for 475, so I should’ve bought two of them when they were new lol. I’ve gigged with it and shred so much on it. It’s my all time fave, never goes out of tune, and is a mainstay in my life.

[@Dysmn]

My dad owns a Les Paul and that shit was so damn heavy it would cut off blood circulation in my leg I was resting it on

[@ckaras100]

I was pretty disappointed when I got my 10s, a ton of qc issues and they took 0 responsibility for them. Hopefully their customers service and qc have improved in the last 4 years.

[@xxxfallenseraphxx]

Sorry to hear that. I came here to offer a warning as well. Around 6 months ago KDH put a video out about 10s taking payment from customers and then not delivering guitars / becoming unresponsive. Apparently they responded and have claimed to have addressed the issue. Even so, I'd still be reluctant to purchase anything from them. You should not have to be called out publicly on socials to take care of your customers and deliver your product. Buyer beware

[@snap-off5383]

They're just "branded" chibsons, just like Harley Bentons. Guaranteed the one sent to Glen for free was specially selected.

[@xxxfallenseraphxx]

@@snap-off5383 if this is the case I'm sad to see he didn't call it out explicitly and state the video as such

[@snap-off5383]

@@xxxfallenseraphxx Its in the description.

[@xxxfallenseraphxx]

@@snap-off5383 you're right! I did not notice that upon initial comment. All that said, I do hope 10s have stepped their game up since the KDH video. I'm all for better alternatives and more market competition. I am NOT for shady companies swindling customers

[@fumedrummer]

That link to 10sguitars doesn't work. FYI

[@digiscream]

Uhhh...genuine question: If it's a neck-through, how can it have a one-piece body? By definition, a neck-through guitar has two body pieces glued either side. Unless it's a long-tenon approach, which is pretty much the same as a Les Paul, but just sculpted at the neck?

[@WednesdayAddams5150]

I think its "set thru" or "set in" like an ltd ec1000. So its technically not neck through.

[@snap-off5383]

Some people call one-piecers "neck thru"s. Kinda hafta ask to specify. "Its a neck-thru" "one-piece or multi-piece laminated?" I kinda think the multi-piece laminated necks with the glued on sides are superior to the one-piece guitars, since they can alter the grains.

[@troybrown7092]

Not neck through but a well hidden set neck, solid colours are easy to hide witness lines.

[@Kwert]

It's set-thru, not neck-thru.

[@fasthands1631]

this model isnt neck through, but they have a more expensive one that is, and also comes with emgs

[@ianmbaker]

I think you broke 10s's website. :D

[@mstewart248]

My Les Paul will stay in tune for weeks. Has the Grover locking tuners though. I paid 4x as much for it as this guitar though!

[@moisesvillasenor3302]

Hello There

[@Goblinity]

My luthier swears by that a well cut nut does more for tuning stability than the actual tuners and after his work on my Harley Benton guitar, I'm inclined to agree. But I would still love to see this theory tested in a future video.

[@joeking433]

Do tuners have ANY effect on staying in tune? Of course they don't! It's ALL about how a guitar reacts to humidity! Smh.

[@freakalishess]

I really wish they would start making SG style guitars that don't neck dive.

[@ThatOneGuyWeAllKnow]

I have a 10s. Got it a few years ago. The build is good. the pickups where branded epiphone, the tuners where fake groover. The pots where branded epiphone. From what I gather they have got better.

[@snap-off5383]

Yeah all the hardware was counterfeit, should just got a chibson for few hundred less.

[@ThatOneGuyWeAllKnow]

My guitar was like 400 and for the build quality it was very much worth it

[@snap-off5383]

@@ThatOneGuyWeAllKnow The $250 Chibsons have the same build quality, likely made in the same building printed off on the same CNC machines. The price difference puts high quality western pickups in it.

[@Jsing6946]

When it comes to guitars it does way better packaging than stuffing a cardboard box! #fucktheenvironmentforrock!

[@matiosmi137]

Let's take a moment to appreciate Glenn deliberately interrupting the intro to shout out the horrible packaging for the sake of the environment

[@Anvilshock]

Sorry, but not all countries are as bass ackwards as the US or Canada or whichever he's been referring to. Some actually have recycling or at least dedicated disposal for stuff like that, taking a lot of it out of landfills. Some even have no landfills at all anymore and still manage to prevent the stuff from getting gone with the wind. And no, that's not speaking in favour of it. It's saying there are smarter and cleaner ways to get rid of it and YOU (figuratively or literally you, take your pick) are not using them.

[@Anvilshock]

@@matiosmi137 Me, triggered? Hahaha, no. Maybe you are. Sorry your little ego got hurt by reality after realising the rest of the world has been launching satellites and people to space for decades while you just invented the stick.

[@bysykler4959]

The amount of gear in the background must have included 500lbs of non-recycling foam packing. If you want a cleaner world, ever thought about just buying less shit???

[@jamesshugart1299]

I think we all crashed their website, haha!!!

[@hatempire]

Yeah, I'm trying to access it for a while hahahahahahah... I have a feeling that this brand will be the new internet's favorite for a while...

[@rickardmoller7824]

Recently purchased a Gibson Les Paul studio and it is great. Even tuned it down to drop B without any problems. I know how to setup and intonate my guitars though.

[@charlesmayberry2825]

The thing with that is I've had several Gibson LPs that I had to take the bridge out completely, plug and fill the holes, and redrill then 3-5mm from their original position because they were so far out of spec they couldn't be intonated. On the flip side I've had a couple that were great, Right now I have cheapies, My SG and LP are both epiphones, and Yeah I've customized them with different tuners, and changed the nuts out, and replaces all the wiring and electronics, but they are absolute champions, It's just a gamble in my experience getting a good one. I do my own work on them, Been doing it a long time. My current Epi's stay in tune, as long as the strings aren't too old, but I play a lot and change them every couple weeks. I'm glad you got a winner from Gibson, My experience with them has been very hit and miss.

[@ChristopherHallett]

Are you trying to imply that Glenn doesn't?

[@rahulmenon4357]

Hey maybe you got one of the guitars that was built by the one Gibson employee who has heard of measuring tape

[@rickardmoller7824]

@@ChristopherHallett No. But I know from experience that most guitar players don't know how to setup their instruments and gladly pay a local hack to do it. Took several years before I dared to do it. I know Gibson have had trouble with qc but it seems to have gotten better in recent years.

[@naln1thevampire]

Tried to go to the 10S website, and it's showing a 500 Internal Server Error. Oof...

[@rugbyguitargod]

A lot of the issues with Gibsons staying in tune are the nut slots. Granted, this shouldn't even be a thing on a guitar that costs as much as a Gibson, but alas. Both of my Les Pauls (one an Epiphone Classic, the other a 1976 Custom) have a custom bone nut with proper slot work and the tuning is as stable as Uranium-238. For another great Les Paul alternative, i'd highly consider the Schecter Solo II Custom. Locking tuners, Ernie Ball compensated nut, Tonepros bridge, 12-16" compound radius, sculpted heel, push/pull coil splitting and Schecter's 'Pasadena' USA-made pickups (their in-house pickups are pretty much the best-kept secret right now). All for under a grand USD AND made in Korea.

[@XlouietheflyX]

It's the angle of the headstock combined with the angles of the slot nuts. That's why the G string is always the prick that goes out of tune

[@rugbyguitargod]

@@XlouietheflyX thank you for elaborating. Yes, if the angle of the headstock is not accounted for in the nut slot, that is what causes string bind through the nut and subsequent tuning instability. Honestly, I’ve always been curious as to how well a Les Paul would stay in tune with a roller nut?

[@stormsonicspeed1]

Epiphone Camo bullseye goes for around 500 usd used where i live. basically the same thing

[@wheelzr57]

It’s all about the fretboard for me. The attention to detail to finishing the frets, the tapering of the fingerboard, and smoothness is a big selling point for higher end guitars. The use of higher grade stainless steel and polishing makes a huge difference in playability and stability. The GOLD standard as far as I’m concerned at scale would be Parker Fly’s from the late 90’s.

[@seanklassen1413]

Massive tone and nice riff!!

[@kUdtiHaEX]

Please do a follow-up on that guitar after a year of use. Then we might be more certain about its quality.

[@davidholloway3011]

Take a look at Tokai. Chinese or Japanese, both are really well made.

[@sillyness3456]

KDH shone light on some rather shady business practices by 10S. I'd much rather pay 200€ more for an LTD EC-400 or a Solar GC2.6 and really get it delivered, rather than hoping 10S actually delivers to anyone but influencers.

[@seanmetal4138]

I agree, it's laughable how Glen can bitch about Gibson paying people $17 an hour, but not say a word about the Chinese average minimum wage of

[@JoeBaermann]

@@seanmetal4138 And your fucking point is?

[@waltersmetak]

Yep, saw that too. He should have addressed the very well placed comment by KDH

[@manicmurph]

@@seanmetal4138 Who cares? We don't live in China and it's always been like that over there.

[@EbonyPope]

@@seanmetal4138 The conversion into dollars doesn't tell your anything about the living costs and the average wage there. 300 dollars are a lot in some countries.

[@Telamon8]

This comment has practically nothing to do with guitars, but: Chinese instrument makers have become a damn respectable force over the years. I noticed this when I bought my trumpet brand new for $500 bucks a few years ago, and got an instrument that can easily butt heads with ones that cost thrice as much (for perspective, $500 for a new trumpet will usually get you a cheaply-made "student" horn, and maybe a nicely-worded note). It's such a great little insrtument that I still use it as my number one, because it both sounds awesome and it looks super fucking cool (which is a whole other rant I have saved up), and it being so cheap allows me to put that money where it actually matters! So, yeah, there are still companies stamping out cheap shit made from recycled green bean cans, but there are also some truly amazing instruments coming out of the country.

[@luckymadrigal7062]

There are some LP shaped guitars from Thomann that have similar specs and some even come with active pick-ups, and they cost less than $550, some are even less than half the price.

[@MG-no8gj]

Actually you can use Styrofoam in your molotov cocktail 🍸, so it doesn't need to go to the landfill. Remember the other "R" in the 3 rs is re-use :)

[@myopicautisticmetal9035]

I ever tell you about the time my friend was playing his vintage Gibson SG bass and as we all stood there watching the headstock just popped off without even touching it?!

[@tinystar3010]

That doesn't surprise me really. Vintage means its old so over time the wood really weakens, plus the high tension of heavy bass strings on an angled headstock would definitely cause that.

[@paulstirk4964]

What guitar. I can't see it.

[@shannonm7981]

I was interested in 10S, but I've heard too many stories about them blatantly scamming customers by never sending the guitar they ordered & completely ghosting them. I've heard they are nice, but it just isn't worth the risk to me.

[@KaddysJamKave]

Yep... always a gamble buying unknown imitation brands from China... definitely NOT worth the risk.

[@willbennett9533]

Didn't KDH do a piece on this company?

[@nathansongne9790]

They're scam artists for sure. Down to the point where they copy other people's descriptions of guitars word for word. And stealing photos to pass off as their own work. 10S is a scam and I'm honestly not surprised Glen Fricker fell for it

[@_Rick_S]

Just pay with a credit card and not your debit card, your CC will refund you and go after them if they stiff you

[@PatPosse]

Hell yeah. PRIEST!

[@OscarEddieGarcia]

For whoever it may concern... I have to address this once and for all because I am legit tired of it and at this point this is just stupid. That 7 string SG that was featured here on this channel before is mine. The guitar is perfectly fine. It stays in tune even after mods. I didn't want to say this because I didn't want to seem sour and make anyone in particular look full of shit. But this click bait KZbin shit has been too much already. I literally put on fresh brand new strings on my SG a few hours right before we recorded that stupid awful hit piece. More over I didn't even properly wrap the new strings on the locking tuners, in fact I over wound them on the tuning pegs. Glenn was totally aware of this and decided to ignore it and move forward with the video. At that time I working slave hours at a aerospace machine shop which was literally 11- 12 hours a night, six and sometimes seven days a week. Boeing was competing with a rival aerospace company in order to rush the production of the 737 MAX. I am a California native and ill tell you its not cheap to live out here, let alone having spending money. The reason I mention this is because at the time I did not have the proper time to set up my SG and I was just so excited to be on Glenn's channel being that I was a long time fan and watcher. In hindsight I should have rescheduled with him in order to have properly set up my SG before we did the taping. I screwed up and I shouldn't have rushed the set up. I'm not saying Gibson's guitar are perfect, I'm just saying the video that was shot should not be represented as evidence or proof. Aside from that I have reached out to Glenn multiple times in order to do a part 2 and prove that my SG is actually a pretty killer guitar. He has ignored me repeatedly. He knew what he was doing, that SG 7 String video was just red meat for his KZbin base to shit talk and to get clicks. Below is a link where you can hear my SG in action, thank you. kzbin.info/www/bejne/d56zm4VraZlmn7s

[@ProbablyOnLSD6669]

Innnnntaaaahhhdesssstinggg!!! 🤔🤔🤔

[@patrickfoster4586]

You mean Glenn would stoop to such a low level in order to get KZbin clicks? What a non-suprise!

[@rocknrollresignation93]

Dude, thanks for being honest and showing some integrity as it's clear the shill that runs this channel has none of either!

[@willross2587]

Your guitar is definitely unique, but I feel most of the criticism was founded. After spending well over $5000 on a guitar after mods do you really want something that is so finicky to work with? I have a good collection of gear and have not bought any modern Gibsons because it just doesn't make sense to spend so much to end up with issues more times than not. I have a BC Rich Shredzilla 7 that sits in its case for weeks at a time and when I pull it out it is perfectly in tune. I also have a MIM Fender Telecaster That I bought 10 years ago. Been sitting on floors propped against amps walls and desks since I was in High School, gigged to death, gets knocked around constantly, same standard hardware from 10yrs ago. Never had to make a repair, almost always in tune when I pick it up, stays in tune through a whole gig. Why are Gibson owners so masochistic that they spend thousands to fix a guitar that already costs thousands just to end up with a Neck Separation or headstock crack eventually?

[@DocRoc94]

Glenn should just stop talking about/reviewing Gibsons. But their clout is too much to resist. Gibson keeps the lights on over at SMG. Gibson in the title earns him between 4-10x the views than any of his videos not talking about Gibsons. Seriously just go take a look, guy averages 5-30K without gibson. Slap Gibson in the title and he pushes 200K views. He's kind of become a whiny little hack and figured he can make more money tearing somebody down than building himself up. Hence why he's released 4 or 5 Gibson hate pieces in the past month. Those 4-5 videos make up a LARGE majority of his viewership for the past 3 months, like more than 50% (No Gibson in title Roughly 3-400K views, Gibson in the title, roughly 750k views. He's a hater, a hack and a toxic bully. This past month of screaming and yelling over a brand NOBODY on this channel even fucking cares about or considers buying, is the reason I've unsubbed today and won't look back. Tons of educational resources on youtube without being talked down to by a guy pining over Gibsons.

[@pattyoneill91]

Websites not working for me 🤷‍♂️

[@pattyoneill91]

Had to use a vpn to access the website im here in CT and i couldnt even properly navigate it. It crashed my phones ui. They should stop with the fancy stuff and just make a standard site

[@dustinf11]

I have a 22 year old Gibson that came with Grover tuners. They have been doing it awhile, you just need to buy the right model. Tuning still can be spotty because of the neck angle, but I got lucky with that one. Don't get me started on trying to keep a Gibson explorer in tune.

[@mrcoatsworth429]

My brother has a 15 year old epiphone with Grovers.

[@mrcoatsworth429]

@OceanSoul🐒 please elaborate Edit: Ah, I get it. They're licensed "copies". FYI they stay in tune like nothing else. He can play a gig with the guitar, throw it in the gigbag, turn up to the next rehearsal and it's still in tune. Who gives a fuck if they're "Grovers"?

[@dustinf11]

You know what stock tuners blow me away? Taylor, the stock tuners on my Taylor are otherworldly. Gig bag, hard case, weather change... That guitar just stays in tune.

[@mrcoatsworth429]

@@dustinf11 I also keep reading how if you've got tuning issues, upgrading the tuners will rarely solve them. More often it's bad nut slots.

[@dustinf11]

@@mrcoatsworth429 that's very true. It's good to find out what size strings the nuts were filed for. If you go bigger without widening them, your asking for tuning instability. Mostly on the G string. But nut files are stupid expensive.

[@five7teen694]

I have an epiphone Les Paul studio. Got it for 425$ cad and it works great

[@WarrenBey]

My Gibson Les Paul Junior came with great tuners. I have a 76 Explorer that will stay in tune after a month of not playing it. Best guitar I own

[@joeking433]

Bad design, especially for playing seated.

[@DoubleAAmazin]

damn bruh did u accidentally cause a ddos attack on that site lol

[@tinystar3010]

While I agree on price, I don't really see the rest of the complaints you made. I have a 2013 Gibson Les Paul Studio. It's almost never gotten out of tune on me anymore than any Fender or Ibanez I own too. But I also just use 9 guage strings on it and apply pencil lead in the nut slot on string changes the same as my Fenders, properly stretch the strings before going anywhere to play live and it stays in tune. It is heavier than my other guitars but it's only 8 pounds. It's the historic styled Les Pauls that are boat anchors. The only concern I have is possibly the headstock snapping but putting 9s on it feels like it will avoid that issue because I'm not giving it massively high string tension. And Gibson does have that camo finish on a Les Paul. Primarily the Zack Wilde model, but it has the bullseye graphic too, and there was a few other full camo graphics in the past. Honestly Gibsons play perfectly fine and stay in tune beautifully, assuming you actually know how to set your guitars up properly. But I absolutely agree on price.... I'd love a beautiful cherry sunburst custom, but I refuse to pay over 4000 for one 😆 Also, I had to read the description to see this was a sponsored video. They sent you that guitar free to review. It's great seeing your playing improving!

[@joeking433]

Don't buy a guitar because of the look of it's top, LOL!

[@overdriven77]

This video seems like a payed ad by 10S.

[@DahakaSlayer]

Hey Glenn! Maybe you’ll be able to get some of older Japanese Les Pauls to review them and compare to a Gibson? Brands like Orville, Orville by Gibson, Burny, Greco and Tokai seems to be a steal for the price!

[@YHRS]

What's the deal with the whole "Gibsons don't stay in tune" thing? Mine doesn't seem to suffer from any instability, and it's not constructed any differently than any other average Les Paul. It's a 90's Classic, so it's got the 60s slim-taper neck (that did crack at one point due to a drop...that's definitely a weak point!). But as far as tuning, it's stable. It goes out of tune in-between sessions like all of my other guitars do, but once I've got it tuned, it stays there until I sit it down and it cools off.

[@BlackNo1918]

Again. Glenn, your chops have improved even more. The guitar looks and sounds awesome btw.

[@guitarplayer1434]

he is holding the pick differently than he use to, Im sure this helps

[@GuitarAndWhatevs]

Yes! he now has a great consistent timing. Loved his tone

[@guitarplayer1434]

@@Anvilshock WTFN heck are you talking about.. we are talking about Glen's improvement in his picking and you come in with this woke garbage about your country being better cause of recycling .. you need to change your name to 'karen'

[@Anvilshock]

​@@guitarplayer1434 Thank you for letting me know. I have moved the response to the comment it was intended to belong to.

[@brandonc2859]

I love it when grandma puts on her angry face to riff👒

[@wally99szarek]

The mitchell "les Paul's" are also really good/cheap, it came with locking tuners and a bunch of other nice features

[@joeking433]

I don't like these brands that use YT influencers to sell ordinary items at a premium price. I'd go for a Mitchell in a heartbeat!

[@jiffy59]

Great video got to check those guitars out

[@fjk1138]

I would agree with all of these points - I've tried Custom shop Les Pauls costing $3500 that were setup like complete garbage, yet the $500 range Les Pauls were above and beyond. Totally agree on the weight also - part of the reason why I switched to Schecters almost 20 years ago.

[@bobmartino8073]

I've had a couple Gibsons and I agree. For the money, Schecter is by far the best out there IMO. Not to mention the fact that if you are left handed, which I am not, No other brand offers more options than Schecter. Plus you get the best of everything with Schecter from necks to pickups, floating trems and Sustainiacs.

[@KurtStoffer]

Rockin the Priest riffs AWESOME

[@soundman1402]

You can get Yamahas for this price. They have two lines: Revstar, which is Les-Paul-ish, and Pacifica, which is Strat-ish. HP reviewed several Yamaha axes, and his reviews helped me decide to buy a Yamaha as my first guitar. (That, and my Yamaha basses are excellent.) For the money, I think they're worth a look! Glenn, maybe Yamaha will send you some product?

[@bellmeisterful]

Dude. Most people have no idea how killer Yamaha is. In fact anything they touch is gold

[@rockydempsey94]

I love Yamaha Basses but None of their guitars ever really did anything for me. Not bad instruments by any means but they just don't speak to me.

[@Dave-Rough-Diamond-Dunn]

My guitar is a Yamaha Strat copy I bought second hand in 1988 for $180aud (around the same as Canadian dollars usually). For years it was just my crappy guitar while the actual guitarists had Fenders and Gibsons, but now, it's suddenly a desirable guitar! I have an Epiphone Les Paul, the ones with the bolt on neck, and a Gibson badge, and I've had some sweet looking guitars over the years, but the Yammy I'll never sell.

[@blacklion401]

I’ve never had an issue with keeping a LP in tune and I’ve owned a bunch.

[@joeking433]

Yeah, it's just FUD bullshit. A lot of people dissing Gibson so they can sell their cheap Chinese copies.

[@zackakai5173]

I love my Les Pauls to death. I'm *not* gonna sit here and pretend they stay in tune or that they're objectively the best-designed guitars xD

[@mrcoatsworth429]

I honestly don't get it. My SG stays in tune perfectly. Have you made sure the nut slots and the bridge saddles are smooth? Also try wrapping less of the string around the machine head pins (or whatever they're called). Try the technique that Joe Bonamassa's tech uses. You could also go to a luthier and let them install a properly cut nut. Obviously, the "traditional" (century old) Gibson design is far from the best, but there's no reason not to try and fix a few problems.

[@JerseyMiller]

@@mrcoatsworth429 it's a schtick bud. American hipsters love to shit on anything western and celebrate child sweatshop labor. I mean hey, as long as the American shitheels are making $15 an hour minimum wage, who cares. Nimby.

[@mrcoatsworth429]

@@JerseyMiller Glenn isn't American, though

[@joeking433]

They stay in tune. The whole thing about them not staying in tune is just from liars to get you to buy a different brand.

[@gerardotejada2531]

I love Les Paul, they are my fav guitars of all time. I also hate Gibson with all my heart. No contradictions there.

[@jonathandavis5639]

I totally understand that youtubers have to be constantly coming up with fresh content in order to keep monetizing their videos, hence the clickbait title and video. The main Gibson problem is basically one: the fucking price. With that I agree. As for the other presented reasons, they serve a purpose only: to promote and push viewers to buy a product someone got for free and probably will get more by doing so.

[@joeking433]

And the price is high because Gibson guitars are made here in the USA. American made guitars have been my favorite guitars by far!

[@josephkemler5668]

Love ur timing!..

[@Crack3DLP]

If you really want to put a nail in the Coffin of the Gibson les Paul here´s an idea: take one gibson and one 10S and play them side by side and after playing some riffs compare how much each guitarr got out of tune. That would be really interesting for me to see / hear. Cheers!

[@Marta1Buck]

Blind test

[@joeking433]

The Gibson would kill it! These cheap Chinese guitars are made with wood that is not properly dried so they don't stay in tune worth shit.

[@CrossedCollar]

Dude I love your energy lol, instantly subscribed. That guitar sounds awesome too!

[@troybrown7092]

The reason Gibson 's and most guitars go out of tune is because of poor setup work at the nut. The other reason I find often is people putting monster strings on a guitar set up for 9s or 10s. Any change to string guage will always require a set up after i.e. nut filing, neck relief and intonation. First thing I noticed on the SG you had on here ages ago was the horrible mods ,gimme 2 hours with that thing and i,ll make it stay in 100%. I play old cheap Jay Turser LP,s and with the proper fretwork and setup they kick ass, it,s all in the setup.

[@tinystar3010]

This exactly. I run 9s on my Les Paul since it came out of the box. It doesn't go out of tune any more so than my Fenders after 3 hour sessions. Almost rarely in fact do I need to tune it. Just properly stretch the strings before playing, and any time you over tune too high and you tune down, just stretch the slack back out you just released and tune back up to pitch, and it stays in tune. Simple common knowledge tuning.

[@erikrandan7294]

This is pretty spot on. Proper nut filing goes a long way as well. I had an LTD Eclipse that didnt stay in tune as well as my Les Paul. It came down to the setup and the way the nut was cut.

[@snap-off5383]

if it were just that, every fanned out headstock guitar would need the same thing, how is it Gibsons are renown for this, where cheaper knock-offs aren't?: The cheaper knock-offs didn't copy the steep headstock angle.

[@AntmanFelix]

People often have a hard time with the G string on Gibsons. I happen to put some pencil lead on the nut slot on my SG and I have not happen to have a problem since.

[@ВладиславСірко]

Agree, after setting up everything in my Gibson SG, i never had such tuning problems. Only tuning problem i had with that guitar was gigs in wintertime. Btw that guitar in video sounds closer to some phil pro than gibson, idk, maybe it's all Glen's skills.

[@shaihulud4515]

Glenn's in a Priest-mood - classic 😀

[@DrumWild]

As someone who has owned a few Les Pauls, I agree, and I'm only 10 seconds into the video.

[@joeking433]

Gibsons? Mine never have these problems all these sellers of cheap Chinese guitars like to talk about.

[@scottfleck2223]

I saw “Better than Gibson“ in the thumbnail and thought for sure I was about to see a Squier or First Act ☠️

[@Scrub_Zero]

All the gibson hate man. It sucks. They're the last company making guitars in America, and they make them for prices people can afford. Have you seen the prices of other companies made in USA models? I wish they'd stop giving people so much ammunition to hate on them. I have three gibsons and they're by far my favorite guitars, but I realize some people have problems with them.

[@danyeo]

Last company making guitars in America? Suhr, Tom Anderson, PRS, Musicman, Kiesel, etc.

[@Scrub_Zero]

@Dan Downing I meant of the old guard of American guitar companies. I think most people think of them as the last relevant American guitar maker, but you're right. PRS is still around and doing a way better job than Gibson, those other companies are tiny, and musicman is just like everyone else with the import models and ultra luxurious made in USA models. The point is I'm tired of people hating on gibson for clicks, but I also understand that Gibson is at fault for giving them the ammunition to do so.

[@danyeo]

@@Scrub_Zero Sure, I think it's Gibson, Fender, then PRS, as far as the big dogs go. And yes Gibson has improved a LOT the past few years. Yeah, Glenn has a hard on for bashing Gibson and come on, you can keep your $300 Chinese guitar, once you find a good Gibson nothing will beat it for tone. And a 50 dollar String Butler is all that is needed to fix tuning issues.

[@Scrub_Zero]

@@danyeo I couldn't agree more!

[@joeking433]

There's a good bit of hate for Gibson because they're the king of guitars and everyone likes taking a shot at the king! You also have a lot of people that are envious and can't afford them, and people paid by PR firms with clients from other brands that are paid to post negatively against Gibson.

[@racer-oz9rh]

I like the guitar, very beautiful and stuff was the camouflage have to be custom built?

[@joeking433]

Custom built? LOL! IT COMES IN FUCKING STYROFOAM! Like all the guitars you buy off of AliExpress!

[@PaperBanjo64]

There's also an urban camo option, no it's not a custom design, they come standard.

[@paulhopkins1905]

As a guitar builder, I have always said Epiphone was better than Gibson. I would bet that 10S is made in the same factory. As far as tuning stability, it has nothing to do with the Kluson tuners. It is physically impossible for a worm gear to slip. The problem with Gibson is the nut and to a lesser extent the headstock angle. As far as the neck breaking, it's because Gibson in all of their stupidity, refuses to use a scarf joint, so there is short, weak grain, running through the weakest part of the neck. As far as neck through being better for sustain, thats just as big a myth as tone wood. Just makes it more difficult to repair

[@orlock20]

The problem is the Gibson Les Paul uses 1950s technology and other models fill in the gaps. That's why all the flaws from 70 years ago are still there.

[@paulhopkins1905]

@@orlock20 all guitars use 50s technology, the same can be said of a Strat and Tele.

[@paulhopkins1905]

@@orlock20 all guitars still use pickups, pots, and capacitors, just like in the 50s. The problem with Gibson is the 13-15 degree headstock angle and no scarf joint

[@orlock20]

@@paulhopkins1905 Strats are also hard to keep in tune. There are locking nuts, locking tuners, nuts that don't bind better ways to keep the head stock from breaking including different body materials and guitars that come headless. There are also better "wammy bars" that are easier to tune and keep in tune. There are ways to detune and then go back to normal on the fly. There are guitars that emulate tunings, pickups and even the number of strings on the guitar.

[@paulhopkins1905]

@@orlock20 Strats are not at all hard to keep in tune. Nothing you mention is at all new tech

[@PaulLacourse]

Good or bad, I try to avoid "Made in China". Nothing against the Chinese people, just the regime. (Squier, Firefly, Harley Benton, iPhones etc.) But I can see your point and respect it. Great video, as always.

[@gpm4166]

Awesome work, Glenn! Can you talk a bit about the LTD's quality and overall specs? Love your material!

[@MyBichSustained]

My two Gibson's Les Pauls beg to differ!

[@SpectreSoundStudios]

Keep telling yourself that!

[@MyBichSustained]

@@SpectreSoundStudios I don't have to....It's a fact!

[@Exhul666]

Glen - You've spent quite a bit of time ragging on Gibson's, so I finally have to weigh in a little bit here. First: Not all grovers are created equal. There are import grovers just like there's import anything else in the guitar industry. I doubt they would put tuners on that 10S that are 1/5th the value of the entire guitar. They probably rattle around when you take the string off as most cheap tuners do, even some with the "Grover" stamp (Source: experience. I've owned a few cheapo guitars in my time). With regards to the tuning stability of a Gibson (save for that atrocious 7 string SG abomination homeboy had on your show some years ago... yikes. They aren't all good), the problem can be solved in 3 easy steps: 1) Put pencil lead in the nut slots when you change the strings 2) Make sure to pull on the strings reeaaal hard so that they conform to the tuner post (aka "stretch" the strings) 3) Be sure to always tune up from flat, so the string doesn't bind on the nut and subsequently pull out of tune after a few moments of playing. If you put your big boy pants on, follow those easy steps, you too can play a Les Paul without sounding like sad clown music. You dont even have to get one of those ridiculous String Butler things. If you still require clarification, I'd be happy to make a video for you... time permitting. As for the headstock, yes I too wish they would implement a volute, but I've managed to not break any headstocks so far - maybe because I refrain from metal core style guitar-jitsu and don't use my LPs to shoot penalty shots at my local pond rink. In closing, Gibson's aren't perfect, but they aren't the hot sticky garbage you constantly make them out to be. P.S. Euge Valovirta already made a good video showing the basics of how to not fuck up a re-string and keep your guitar in tune: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpSWqH2Xbtt_m7M (Starts at 7:00) He's the fucking man.

[@slayabouts]

One of these days you need to troll us somehow “I haven’t even opened this box and I already know it’s better than a Gibbons Less Pawl. And here’s 5 reasons why!” *opens box, starts playing* “Aw shit, it’s a lemon” *cue credits* *10 min of bloopers from other videos to make us think it’s a full video*

[@cam.p5617]

It's probably a good idea to make the sponsor/ guitar handover from 10s more transparent in the video rather than just marking it paid promotion and stating it in the description We dont want viewers to be mislead over such a thing, gives you more credibility as a content creator looking out for fans. I'm not blaming you, it was probably just an oversight or something but there's a heads up

[@fr.abbadon]

thanks for the Priest Glenn!

[@travisboose9444]

My Gibsons all stay in tune, are made of incredible tone-wood, look incredible. Guess I don’t mind forking out extra money for American craftsmanship and something that will be valuable for generations to come.

[@joeydego2]

I wouldn’t even burn this piece of crap out of fear of the fumes from whatever chemicals they used on that god awful camouflage finish.

[@tommyturner6923]

All of my Gibsons stay in tune, too. Besides that this $550 guitar (alot of money for a Chinese LP) will bring all of $99-$149 when you go to sell or trade it, in perfect condition.

[@fromsiriusitcame]

Tone wood is a myth

[@travisboose9444]

@@fromsiriusitcame that’s just something salty people say. Good day.

[@justincushner5136]

@@travisboose9444 A skilled player can produce an outstanding sound regardless of gear (within reason). I'm not at all saying that there is no need for higher end gear though, as obviously a highly skilled player will want an instrument that feels the best and can keep up with them.

[@roadmaster1ful]

That thing sounds great!

[@manhattanprojekt1275]

5:44 Actually, that’s not true, it’s been scientifically tested a couple times, and funny enough bolt-on necks have better sustain than neck-thrus (really not enough of a difference to where anyone would notice or care, kinda like power tubes). Having said that, they make better access for higher frets, just overall look better, and more difficult to build. SO HOLY SHIT! I’m honestly so surprised to see a good-looking neck-thru for so cheap, let alone LP-style, they’re so rare!!

[@EMILLKILL]

There is a great solution for those like me who have Gibsons, it´s called Dietrich String Butler and makes your Gibson guitars have a strong and stable tuning just for 30-40 bucks

[@HankHopeless]

There IS actually something You can do, if Your Les Paul won't stay in tune: Buy a Stringbutler. It's a thingamabob that breaks up the harsh string angles from the nut, to the peg of the machinehead

[@vorpalblades]

Or just get a properly cut nut.

[@HankHopeless]

@@vorpalblades Assuming Your nut IS cut properly [giggle], a Stringbutler still relieves a lot of the tension in the slots in the nut. A Gibson is a precision [giggle] instrument, that can only be tempered to tuning by aproximation 🤣

[@erikolsen1333]

2:09 apart from spec sheets and gear review, may I say I love the social commentary!

[@DjackTheDjurst]

Might I mention that a PRS SE Tremonti Standard exists, and is fucking amazing. Just block the trem and you have a great Les Paul for anything. Also, 10s not offering a scale length option is a huge let down

[@joeking433]

Does 10s even make a Fender copy?

[@massfusionstudio]

Nice! I've given up on name badges myself. Still learning how to play lol. You Still got grind Glenn. Sounds great👍👍

[@tubo628]

Nah, Glenn. Of course 10S is a dream come true for influencers. Meanwhile they're a total nightmare for everyone else. Read the forums. Terrible craftsmanship, inferior materials, guitars that never show up, and worse of all, they're ripping off images from PRS, Ormsby, etc, and passing them as their own "custom" models. Don't believe me? Ask Perry Ormsby himself. Do your research homework next time, bud.

[@raulromo7930]

stop hating gibson, the only reason they get of of tune its because the strings are wrapped wrong and the nut isnt lubricated properly, put the strings with the locked z bend without to many wraps have a nice setup and nut lubrication and they are exceptional

[@ArielEduardoAlba]

4:53 Whiskey woman don't you know that you are drivin' me insaaaaaane🎶 Your playing has come long ways Glenn, congrats! And this guitar sounds like a ridiculous bang for the buck! Thanks for sharing it with us! Cheers from Nuevo Laredo 🇲🇽

[@barryshaw7304]

I like the part where he went all manbearpig on a little bit of Styrofoam! Lol!!! Was he cereal?

[@MrArchie800]

Loving The Priest !!!

[@EthanNewsom]

I love my Gibson to death. It’s a great sounding guitar that I got a pretty good price from Gibsons Demo Shop on Reverb. However, to get it to play and stay in tune the way it does now, I had to replace ALL of the hardware. The NON COMPENSATED wraparound it came with I swapped out for an adjustable wraparound, and the tuners which were the “vintage style” button head Gibson tuners are now Klusons. The thing tunes and STAYS in tune. I love Gibson guitars (sometimes) but I shouldn’t have to sink another $200 into a $1700 guitar to make it do such a basic thing

[@joeking433]

Either Kluson or Gotoh made the original tuners and they're fine. They've been time tested to be good tuners.

[@hedonisticpunkvatos]

I bought a used 2006 Gibson 70's reissue Goldtop with a pro hardshell travel case sometime ago from a guy. I yanked out the transistor pots it came with. The idea from Gibson was it made switching out pickups super easy but it didn't sound great and the idea was to mod this axe cuz I needed a 'hot' one for leads and metal. You would just unclip the pickup and put in another set. Anyway, I put in 50's wiring old school oil based pots with the huge orange drops capacitors. The 70's part of the guitar refers to the body style and the width of the neck. I replaced the stock p90's with the Slash pro Seymour Duncan Alnico II bridge and neck pickups and the chinese made switch with a USA made Switchcraft toggle switch. Then I took the guitar to a luthier to professionally setup. So it does stay in tune but $800 for the guitar, $210 for the pickups, $75 for the pots, $35 for the toggle, $65 for the pro setup = $1185. I use skinny top heavy bottom Ernie Balls and when I change the strings I do 1 string at a time so as not to mess with the bridge and intonation. Stays in tune for years now. But hells, if I could get a rad guitar for half that to use for gigging... well FUCK You, Glenn for not doing this years ago when I could've save me some bucks! jajaja! Now I'm looking at getting me an S10 baritone with tesla alnico V's for $650.

[@joeking433]

And this Chinese guitar at $550 would be worth $100 in a year if you could even sell it. Your Gibson will be worth what you paid for it.

[@adrianmedeiros8431]

Great job on your playing, Glenn. You've really improved over the years and it's quite visible. Gibsons are old news. You can get a lot more bang for your buck in lower priced brands. A sixth reason I'd get this over a Gibson is that cheaper guitars are, inherently, better to mod. If you're thinking of buying Gibson, consider this: if you have enough money for a Gibson, you also got money to buy a cheaper alternative and mod it to death. Get better pick ups, change the frets to something more comfortable, change the hardware, change the paint job... You can do ALL OF THAT instead of buying a Gibson and end up with something far more suited to your playing needs. I did the math once just for fun. For the price of just one Gibson Custom, you could buy two Epiphone Customs, a pair of Fishmanns, a 5150 3 50 watt combo and a ton of pedals and still come out spending less. It's one shinny toy vs everything you'll ever need as a metal guitar player playing gigs. Hell, in the scenario I just described you come out with a more "classic" sounding guitar and a more modern one. And that's just because I went to Epiphone instead of something like 10s or even ESP. Also, by the end I was really scratching my head on what else I could buy to match the price. Seriously. I had every essential pedal I could think of in there. Wah, overdrive, noise gate, delay, chorus, flanger, distortion, eq... A reverb seemed pointless because the combo already had it. There was still enough money to buy a mid tier squier, just to shake things up. That name on the headstock is just not worth the alternative by a LONG SHOT

[@snap-off5383]

You can get one of these Chibsons with the Gibson name on the headstock too if that is what floats a guy's boat!

[@thesisterfister2984]

6:37 god damn Glenn I've been saying that for years I'm glad more people finally agree with me

[@TestarossaMusicista]

I haven't played, touched, or even looked at this guitar, but I know it's going to be better because I'll convince myself it's so." I like your videos and reviews because they generally feel so honest. This one feels more like you're starting with a conclusion and working your way backwards. I also think the knock on Gibson longevity and durability is a bit disingenuous. There are examples over half a century old that are still all original and play well. Sounds good though. Perks of being able to hook up a cheap guitar to some of the best equipment available.

[@joeking433]

LOL! Bingo!

[@fngoodmusic78]

You’re getting much better at Guitar