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@crystaljones92704 жыл бұрын
I'm 51 and my dumset up is not comfortable
@koolBOY83237 жыл бұрын
once you figure out your setup, MARK YOUR RUG. i use duct tape and a sharpie, and make a 'map' so i remember where everything goes. i also try to keep my cymbal tilters at the same angle all the time, not changing that or the stand heights when i break down. only collapsing the tripods on stands, which are also marked with sharpie. makes for quick, consistent setup and tear down every time.
@HammerTime5150-m4i5 жыл бұрын
Spot on! 1" Gorilla tape is perfect for this.
@robertmilkshake10136 жыл бұрын
Even having experimented with my set configuration for years, the way you broke things down was very clear and helpful. You have a very matter-of-fact but humble kind of vibe that I appreciate. Thank you much! Subscribed. Also, "non-glamorous drummers.." I love that.
@ringodingo6 жыл бұрын
Ya, but where do I put the GONG ?
@jacksonforrest19326 жыл бұрын
ringodingo behind you
@yeyed62866 жыл бұрын
Behind the bassist
@isaiahmartin12026 жыл бұрын
Hang it in the air for everyone to see😂
@timsears61297 жыл бұрын
Very interesting subject.....I tend to "reset" my kit every now & then for this very reason.....ok lets face it ...........Im a short guy (5' 2") and I used to sit a bit high(not to high) on the kit but have recently discovered after one of my ongoing "setups" I had set up "offset" rack toms(2 up 2 down) and adjusted my snare in the same manner as Nicko McBrain on a sever angle (not to high as he is very tall) and lowered my throne lower than usual so my snare is actually now nestled almost perpedicular to my rack and almost at the same heighth... I think I have found the perfect "setup" for myself.....very comfortable......and thats paramount.....excellent subject Stephen....
@thenonglamorousdrummer7 жыл бұрын
Cool! Yeah it’s all about experimentation. Doing a total reset like that is a great idea! I actually know of a drummer who may be close to your height, and he sets up kind of like that as well. He’ll keep the drums at roughly the same height I might, but he’ll angle everything inward. Thanks for the comment, Tim!
@timsears61297 жыл бұрын
Its all about easy access to me really, I wasnt using both floor toms but I figured if Im going to change things and make it more interesting I MAY as well add the extra tom , it MAY be a little awkward hard to reach sometimes , but it can be a GOOD challenge to myself....and plus as I get older(55) beibg comfortable is the main key here.......thanks again Stephen love your vids and advice.....you really do get me thinking and thats a good thing...oh one more lower the cymbals and throne height was a major factor thats working well....
@hockeygoal1016 жыл бұрын
My biggest issue is that I have a 22 inch kick. So the toms have always been a little high for me. What I did to compromise was just take out the mid-tom (12 inches) for now so I could place the high tom (10 inches) lower, until I could get a tom stand or something. This really helped me when it came to comfort and makes the toms much easier to reach.
@rodidy7 жыл бұрын
Great vid as always. Keeping my beginner's thoughts and questions that don't make it passed "maybe I'm just inexperienced" to a minimum! Was having comofrtability issues this week and it left me feeling that I had regressed in skill. But I definitely need to address my setup occassionaly to find what works best. Keep em coming!
@thenonglamorousdrummer7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. As you’re gaining skill, you’ll be rapidly changing the way that you’re playing, which requires constant re-evaluation of your setup. Don’t be afraid to just keep updating it as you go along. I bet my setup when I first started playing would be unrecognizable to me now....and super uncomfortable too haha. Thanks, Roddy!
@djabthrash7 жыл бұрын
Great points made ! Good that you mentioned the ergonomics in terms of playability but also the mic bleed issue as well.
@auto_53 жыл бұрын
I like how you timed up your talking with the drum beat of the song in the background. At least for the beginning. Lol thanks for the vid. I struggle with this a lot and tend to be constantly readjusting my snare, throne, and hi hats. Height, angle, and distance. Sucks because that makes for such inconsistency…
@anthonycarado63136 жыл бұрын
I used to be a guitarist but shifted to being a drummer since I got a stroke last 2015..and I really find your topic interesting. The stool and snare heights are just few of my concerns due to my current physical condition. Nice vid bro. Keep it up. From Manila, Philippines..!!!
@jasonenz42387 жыл бұрын
I sit very high (I'm 5-11) and my shin is basically straight up and down but my thighs are not a 90° angle...but higher and that's what works. Maybe as a result of that, my hi hat is right at the top of the rod. But it's always been super high. I hit hard so the more room I have between my right crossover stick and my snare, I can create more in my whip to hit harder. I've been in the middle of Kansas and some one said, "dude, I remember you cause of how hi you have your hi hat!" Lol. I oddly get that comment a lot haha. Great video!!!
@thenonglamorousdrummer7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Hey you wouldn’t be the only drummer with a high hi hat. It does seem like most of the harder hitting guys keep their hats and cymbals about as high as they’ll go. When you’re playing hard and need the extra space for the “whipping” motion like you said, I think it makes sense. Especially if everything you’re playing on that particular gig is high volume.
@joealias25947 жыл бұрын
Do you find it hard to play the tip of the stick on the bow of the hats? Or you just smash the edge the whole time lol?
@jasonenz42387 жыл бұрын
Joe Alias - lol, my right elbow hangs out pretty high so not too many splinters on the carpet 😏 Just tried it one day and it felt so much easier to play...🤷♂️
@SeanLaMontagne6 жыл бұрын
I'm 5'8" and I like my hi hat almost to the top of the rod as well. It gave me the extra room for my snare hand to play loud enough to cut through the big band I was playing with at the time. I was also struggling with sitting up straight and playing at the time, so that helped my posture a bit.
@bwakeman7 жыл бұрын
Hey man! Just wanted to say your production on this video is great! I’ve been subbed for a while now and have learned a lot while I’ve been here. Keep up the good work!
@thenonglamorousdrummer7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Bryan! Really glad to hear that my videos are helping you out! 👍
@xwinglover7 жыл бұрын
Always practical advice on your channel. . I am 6’3” also and face what you described. I find that sometimes I have to change my kit up as what worked 6 months ago might not now. But this vid is good food for thought and saying what we all contend with but probably never verbalise (especially with other band members).
@perryfisher33737 жыл бұрын
I'm also 6'3" with long legs. I no longer travel and play constantly setting up and tearing down. I only play in church now and my set stays put... sit down, play, get up, go home. However I find I'm always tweaking my set up. To me the position of my feet is paramount. Today the hi-hats may feel a little too close or I may feel too far away from the bass pedal. Even moving something 1/2" makes a difference. When I do tear them down when I go to set up again I start by getting my throne height right. Next is positioning the bass pedal in a comfortable location before attaching it to the drum. Next is the hi-hats placed in a comfortable position. Once my feet are where they need to be snare placement is next. In other words set up from the inside out. I also play heel down. Being tall with big feet heel down is more comfortable.
@xwinglover7 жыл бұрын
Agree
@thenonglamorousdrummer7 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think we can all become a bit complacent and even downright lazy with our setups! I know I’ve gone way too long without addressing issues with setup. You make a great point... Sometimes what works for you does morph over time. Our playing “motion” or “technique” could change a little, and that can affect where we need to position things. Always keeping that “experimentation” mindset helps a lot. 👍
@thenonglamorousdrummer7 жыл бұрын
Great point about starting with the feet, Perry! Especially for all us tall people :) You know...what you said about heel down makes me wonder...If we were to poll every drummer on their foot technique and cross reference that with their height and shoe size....I wonder if we’d find that more tall guys play heel down, and more short guys play heel up. Very interesting...🧐
@Danfromoverthere5 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. No matter how long you play you can always learn. Watching yours I’ve learned quite a bit, thank you.
@flashesofblack41286 жыл бұрын
Great video. I stopped playing drums long ago because our HOA prohibited very loud noises and took up playing bass, which love to play. I now have my kit back and thought I could pick up where I left off. When I set the kit back up it seemed awkward. I tried to play a simple song like Bjorks, "Army of Me" and found it was very hard to play. I think I can regain my skills, but I dont think my kit is set up correctly. Now I know why. Thanks for your instruction!
@fumedrummer7 жыл бұрын
I produced a gig where I put my drum kit on the stage for all the bands to use (it was one way to convince bands to play the event, it seems). I was amazed at how different each of the drummers placed the different elements at odd angles and spaces around the bass drum. Some of the bands I saw I had to say to myself, "How in the world is that comfortable?" But, everyone has their own way. In this video, you gave me an idea: I personally use a shallow snare drum and the stand I have is pretty standard as far as how high it will go. I'm over six feet tall (too) and I'm slamming my hands into my thighs to get rim shots. I thought about putting little blocks of wood beneath the snare stand legs to raise it up a bit. But, that seemed unstable, especially in a gig environment where the riser will vibrate a little. Now, what I think I'll try is adjusting the angle of the snare so that the closest edge to my body is raised. Thanks for the idea. *cheers*
@thenonglamorousdrummer7 жыл бұрын
Cool! Yeah give that a shot and see if it helps (if you’re trying to avoid hitting your thighs at least). I know of a drummer who intentionally hits his thigh when he plays rim shots, since that motion helps him be more accurate and consistent. I’m not a fan of doing that, but hey...whatever works! I think it was Carrie Underwood’s touring drummer (can’t remember his name...) who sets up with the snare angled away. If you can find some video of that guy’s setup, that might be what you’re going for.
@willwozniak28266 жыл бұрын
Nicely done man. Watched your other video on the double kick with one foot, i understood it!!!!!
@jbondrums_20347 жыл бұрын
Because mine is electric
@antoinejackson4937 жыл бұрын
I really like your videos dude! I'm glad to start drumming in my highschool band next year
@thenonglamorousdrummer7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, man! Hey that’s awesome! Good luck 👍
@LH-zv2zq7 жыл бұрын
Great topic, thanks! Your summary is a must view for drummers. Without proper ergonomics applied to the drums, a lot could go wrong in your play and health. Have you read "Anatomy of Drumming" by John Lamb?
@thenonglamorousdrummer7 жыл бұрын
I haven’t, but that sounds really interesting. I’ll check it out! Thanks for the comment, L Hinds!
@danielphilipnavarro40617 жыл бұрын
great tips again .never seem to fail
@Chrisb2867 жыл бұрын
Very helpful information, It can be all about the look rather than what is comfortable, keep up the great work
@DadDrummer757 жыл бұрын
This is good advice. Just became a subscriber on this video, for what it’s worth.
@nathanl1576 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm going to implement these today..
@coryh31057 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips Stephen. My back has been killing me after practice, im hoping some of these tips along with strengthening my core and back at the gym I can improve my posture.
@LH-zv2zq7 жыл бұрын
Cory I might suggest you read "Anatomy of Drumming" by John Lamb. It covers all issues related to drummers pain from poor body positioning, etc while playing the drums. It'll save you doctor visits in the long run!
@coryh31057 жыл бұрын
L Hinds I'll check it out, thanks.
@goodyking67327 жыл бұрын
Front edge of the throne chief 👍
@thenonglamorousdrummer7 жыл бұрын
I hope these tips can help you out! Something else to try that I didn’t mention in the video is set up a mirror in front of your kit. If you can watch yourself live as you play, you can see if you have any leaning/posture tendencies. Making sure to always sit straight will help to strengthen your core as well...which will in turn make having good posture easier. Sort of an “upward spiral” if you will!
@theRooster7227 жыл бұрын
Good vid, thanks. As a heel down player, as I am, do you use any specific technique to hit double strokes with a single bass drum pedal , such as GT/BT per Bonham? I've been working on the slide technique and heel up, but it's pretty awkward after years of heel down. It's just those quick doubles that I have trouble with, they aren't very audible when played heel down, and not very consistent.
@ThomsDrums3 жыл бұрын
Huge help thanks man!!!
@fatstronaut7 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for the tips!
@MitchellSpille6 жыл бұрын
Great video and good tips, Stephen!! I am in college and live in a dorm, so I only get to practice in the music building practice rooms and my own kit when I'm home for the summer. Do you have any ideas on a setup that would be small and quiet enough for a dorm? Would a DW go anywhere kit with L80 cymbals be quiet enough?
@fbeegle6 жыл бұрын
Another great video!!!
@williamsharp82545 жыл бұрын
I am a new drummer and I find to be more unconfortable than being comfortable right from the start. This video explains why. Thanks .
@joealias25947 жыл бұрын
The thing I have had absolutely the most trouble with is something that, for lack of a better term, I have to call "butt balance." This has had a huge impact on my timing and mobility on the kick drum. The problem I've found is that, depending on how I sit, I might have some amount of my body weight resting on a part of my leg that actually lifts up before coming down on the kick pedal. this means that in order to actually lift my leg, that weight has to be redistributed somewhere, and I end up actually leaning back and forth as I lift and place my kick leg. This makes playing the kick incredibly uncomfortable and makes the rhythm highly unpredictable, since I have to shift my whole body to hit a note. I should say, with some concerted work, this has gotten a lot better. One thing I have done is strengthen my calf, so that I don't have to move my whole leg as much. Another thing is to sit higher, and closer to the edge of the throne, so that my weight naturally shifts off my upper leg and to the back of my butt. But I wanted to bring it up because once I realized I was doing this, it was super clear how dramatically it hurt my comfort and playing.
@JohnDRobinsonelectronicdrums7 жыл бұрын
some essential tips, Stephen! thank you, sir!
@ashercorbett8089 Жыл бұрын
My kick drum has been BACKWARDS FOR EIGHT YEARS; the kick was either way too close, or the toms were too far away....😭God bless you sir for this video... claustrophobic feeling feeling finally gone
@andrewcunningham81216 жыл бұрын
I wish you covered traditional grip playing styles too on the snare and hi hat cross pattern
@joeychenault92487 жыл бұрын
i always sit towards the front of the throne because I play so aggressive and hype that i tend to fall backwards if i sit too far back on my throne
@thenonglamorousdrummer7 жыл бұрын
Haha good call! Maybe that’s why I prefer sitting on the front...I actually feel safer there.
@MrAgrima17 жыл бұрын
Wow I the same keystation! It's very handy and so cool. I hope you gonna enjoy working with it! :)
@thenonglamorousdrummer7 жыл бұрын
Oh are you talking about the keyboard? Yeah it’s great! 😀 I’ve had it for forever, but the main feature on it I use all the time is the easy USB midi out. I can run the signal straight into my laptop. Great for any quick recording.
@sanityinaseaofmadness73537 жыл бұрын
Tons of thoughts on this - but I hate being another anonymous web critic. I'll try to boil it all down: First: ergonomics is HUGE. I'm self-taught and a bunch of decades old. I bought tons of VHS videos back in the day - and very very VERY few of them talked about being comfortable behind the kit. The comfort zone is dependent on your physical size and the size of your kit - plus your technique and the kind of music you're playing. It's also dependent on your practice habits. the best drummers in the world have dialed in their comfort zone. So - KUDOS on zeroing in on an under appreciated issue. The only criticism is that I think you blew past tom ergonomics; it's about more than hitting the head straight on. Great video; subscriber here; keep on doin what you're doing, cuz it's werkin
@thenonglamorousdrummer7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Jon! Yeah I definitely abbreviated a lot of this whole discussion in order to keep a video under 10 minutes :) As you know, there’s so much to talk about on this topic, because we can even go from setup into “motion.” “What kind of motion are we using as we play around the kit?” “How does that play into dynamics?” Etc. Etc. I agree that this is a very under appreciated issue. It’s very non glamorous lol. I’ll be planning some future content on this topic, for sure. 👍
@ookk917 жыл бұрын
hey Stephen. About hihat stand. I use to hh pearl remote :) You can have your foot and your hand as you want to. That's kind of life hack :D
@thenonglamorousdrummer7 жыл бұрын
Haha good for you! I’ve never tried one of those, although I don’t doubt they work really well. I’ve just been too cheap to buy one. I wonder how easily that might allow you to have 2 HiHats on the setup, while keeping both pedals to your left. That would be really useful at times.
@Henry14arsenal20073 жыл бұрын
What about the throne placement in relation to the set? My teacher said to align the edge of the throne with the kick pedal line.
@anthonypalmer14697 жыл бұрын
Yoooooo Stephen bro thanks for the knowledge u always dropping on the channel it’s like you read my mind I have some trouble going from hi hat to ride when to in a song and how to hit also I was wondering if you could help figure out should I count songs when I play them or what counting works but I and when I’m learning a song should I listen to it in instrumental or like it is to learn to play it for church my name is Anthony Palmer and how should I go about asking or people to play I want to play more than just on Sunday but I know I’m not a perfect professional drummer yet but I feel I’m close how should I ask others to create a band with me
@thenonglamorousdrummer7 жыл бұрын
You’ve got some great questions, Anthony. Especially the general “motion” stuff...moving around from hihat to ride, snare to tom, etc. Oh and “how to hit”...that’s a great one, talking about dynamics, motion, sounds, etc. I’m writing down these as future topics to address. :) So you’re playing in church right now? That’s awesome. That’s how I got started playing when I was in high school. I did that for a while before really playing with anyone outside of church. If there are some friends around to jam with, do that! That’s always fun. But keep up the church playing, because that’s an excellent environment in which to grow. Even if that’s your only “band playing”, that’s still really great for you as a musician.
@Boxerharvey17 жыл бұрын
Great video man, are they Remo silentstroke heads you have on your set? Was thinking of getting some as I currently use Evans sound off pads but they wear really quick and don’t give a natural rebound. Are the Silentstrokes any good in your opinion? Thanks and keep up the awesome videos.
@8thfloorentertainment4096 жыл бұрын
What about the hi hat foot pedal angle? if it has a high arch it really puts strain on the shin. my pdp stand pedal angle is not adjustable.
@BCSchmerker7 жыл бұрын
+sccdrum93 *The situation for my own Tama®/Hoshino® Imperialstar™ set-up is typical of the problems illustrated this vid.* I have 8", 10", and 12" rack and 14" and 16" floor toms and a 22" kick; plus a complete enough set of Meinl® HCS™ brass cymbals to work out positioning for a presumably analogous configuration of SABIAN® XS20™ or XSR™ (for actual gigging - B20 silver/phosphor bronze takes brass on durability); I also gravitated to Evans®/D'Addario® two-ply heads for tuning stability (EMADHW kick batter, EC2S frost tom batters, B14HD snare batter/S14R30 reso - EC2S clear tom resonants are on my shortlist for upgrades). Being also a singer, I'm used to sitting quite high on the Roc'N'Soc® air stool, which may complicate the relative-heights equation. Unlike most rock and Country drummers, I'm quite steeped in Classical and therefore have the stock IMS145 center drum low and tilted diagonally right and forward - even closer to military style than was used by the pioneering Chicago jazz drummers of the 1920's; I also use the longest sticks I can find for a given diameter, with the grip point just behind the center of gravity. How to balance the heights of floor toms, snare, hi-hat, ride, and rack toms is the issue.
@thenonglamorousdrummer7 жыл бұрын
Hey getting everything positioned “just right” is definitely a challenge, especially with 5 toms like you’re running. Since it’s a large kit, I can understand the need for longer sticks. Are you playing primarily traditional? Your snare setup sounds like that of a lot of the early jazz guys, who were always tilting away. That makes total sense when playing trad.
@cro47y7 жыл бұрын
Love your vids my dude
@scroxydrums5 жыл бұрын
If you haven't got an additional rack for toms and they all are up on your bass, you never gonna be comfortable with your kit - that's the number one rule you should learn. With tomS, if you've got both high and mid toms on the kick drum. The high tom was closer, almost in front of me, but was too far way, I needed to stretch my hand out so there was no angle in elbow, and if I moved closer, my legs were either 90% or less against the pedal, because they were so close to the kick drum. And the second tom, the mid tom, if you've got no rack is going to be you horror forever - too far away, too on the right, always scratches at the kick drum and - man, it's a nightmare. I removed it and put the hight tom so it were right in front of me - and that's fucking ideal. Im so sad it's 23:00 already and I cant play now, and tomorrow are only guitar lessons, and then the students who "need" the mid tom because they learn their songs that way...argh. But I'm very happy that I finally can play toms with ease, that I finally - FINALLY - found the right position.
@luvspaiste7 жыл бұрын
You got a new pair of slippers. Hooray!
@thenonglamorousdrummer7 жыл бұрын
That I did! You’re very observant, Luvspaiste. :)
@pl36377 жыл бұрын
Thanks great info going to reassess my setup
@robfriedrich28226 жыл бұрын
One question about a cajon based kit. I use a cajon pedal, that has a remote, so I can sit on the same cajon, what will be used as bass drum. The controller is very picky with it's position and needs to be kicked much harder. The cajon is pretty low, no idea how to make it higher, a special pillow may add some centimeters. Any advice?
@liampaisley80404 жыл бұрын
How do you adjust the height of the hi hat?
@turbodrawspeed6 жыл бұрын
great advice for beginners like me that have no idea where to start
@ForFearItsChris7 жыл бұрын
I have a monster kit and I’m having a very hard time keeping the kit ergonomically correct. Lots of comprises have to be made and I’d really appreciate if you’d cover this topic a bit because the music i play (mostly Avenged sevenfold and Dream Theater) requires all these pieces to play properly
@thenonglamorousdrummer7 жыл бұрын
That sounds like fun!! I pretty much say that seriously, although getting a monster kit set where everything is in the perfect spot.....that sounds really tedious. Ergonomics and motion and all that entails are really interesting topics to me, so there will definitely be some more content along these lines in the future. :)
@veerchasm16 жыл бұрын
Yup, this happens to me all the time. Frickin’ knees banging against snare
@danieladamczyk087 жыл бұрын
If you don't want to compromise on hi Hat placement, you can get a remote hi Hat stand and have the cymbals and the pedal completely separate and adjustable.
@thenonglamorousdrummer7 жыл бұрын
Those are cool. I’ve just been too cheap to get one. I think it would be cool to have a hihat over next to the ride just to keep hands uncrossed without switching to open handed. Then maybe keep a regular hat there to the left of the snare for any 16th-based stuff. Of course then it’s more gear to set up. 😉
@thrash_09156 жыл бұрын
I'm buying a new set of sticks. Does anyone recommend any particular brand/model?
@jk-766 жыл бұрын
LP 1997 Vic Firth. It's trendy but I play like a Silverback and they break less than any other stick I've destroyed.
@deeboii12616 жыл бұрын
Good wood are really nice drum sticks
@nialldowling6586 жыл бұрын
Vic firth
@GothPopTV5 жыл бұрын
What's up with the holes in your cymbals, I don't get it. (I'm also a beginner)
@kevinbayley39136 жыл бұрын
There's so many factors to include even if the video was an hour long you's still be scratching the surface. For example: If a person with small legs wants to use a really wide snare drum with eight pedals on the both feet they'll probably want to get a remote hi-hat unless they want their legs seperated at a 180 degree angle! Just worth mentioning for the funny mental image alone.
@Azzthedrummer7 жыл бұрын
How should I have the high hats as I’m tall and if there lower they feel to low and when there to high they feel to high and advice
@thenonglamorousdrummer7 жыл бұрын
For me, there’s a really narrow window of hi hat height where they feel “just right.” I’ll adjust them according to playing volume. For instance, here in my practice space I’m playing a little lighter, so I have them probably 1/2” to 1” lower than I would playing hard on a gig. But that’s still less than an inch’s difference most of the time. Play around with it and see if you can find your perfect sweet spot. Also mess around with where they’re positioned in relation to the snare. Do you like them more to the left of the snare?...Or more to the left and back of the snare?... etc. etc.
@johnryan33746 жыл бұрын
One thing I would add is to get a good quality throne. Makes all the difference in the world.
@pour-g8677 Жыл бұрын
Shoulder height cymbals for me works best 😁
@chazerstream24963 жыл бұрын
Tip: Find The height that is both ideal for heel down and heel up both comfortable
@leeschmitz9936 жыл бұрын
I have the opposite problem. I'm uncomfortable playing house kits. I've got mine figured out.
@tune73335 жыл бұрын
My hihat stand posititon is a nightmare for me cause my ankle is stiff and wont bend up well...I end up with the hat so far away.
@SeG_VT7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for thinking at the sound engineer :)
@RyanAlexanderBloom7 жыл бұрын
This is sort if along the right lines. You’ve got the pedals/ knees thing exactly right. A lot of the rest of this is pretty noncommittal, which is to say that although you probably do know the right answer, you’re kind if unwilling to say it. I guess I’m the opposite in that I have like 15-20 videos like this and I straight up tell people they’re stupid. Probably your way wins you more friends, but it’s less informative. I would only disagree with you on fact in one spot. I never tell anyone to sit on the edge of their thrones because it puts you off balance. Posture can be dealt with separately from how much throne you have under you, but ideally your legs should be absolutely unnecessary for holding up your body. They’re too busy playing to provide structural support. Anyway, good job bringing ergonomics to people’s attention. It needs more discussion because most people are really bad at it. No joke.
@Astromyxin7 жыл бұрын
I have never once felt "comfortable" behind the kit. I've tried literally every permutation of seat height and instrument placement; I've just kind of resigned to the fact that my body is shaped awkwardly and will never be fully 100% comfortable behind the kit.
@inalavalamp4 жыл бұрын
I've noticed that I feel comfortable on seats that are round instead of bicycle seats. It's funny, because I have a bicycle seat throne. Been wanting to swap it out. But I've also noticed it comes down to sitting a little farther back, but not too far to where it feels like you're reaching to hit the pedal.
@BiRDiEHere7 жыл бұрын
Hey Stephen, I'm BiRDiE, I'v been playing drums since I was 11, So basically 4 years ago, I have gotten a lot better, I practice about 12 minutes a day, I know, I practice very fast, Only because of my house, I have neighbors right next to my bedroom, So that's why i practice about 12 minutes a day instead of 1 hour a day, I know shutting my windows could help right? Actually no, The window i have is very thin, The glass is that thin all of the sound can penetrate through it and sorta go outside, Anyway, So, I currently have an electronic drum kit, And i saw your video about the dangers of practicing on them, And i totally understand, So, I came up with a solution, I now have a practice pad, So instead of playing 12 minutes a day on my drum kit, I play on it about 5 minutes a day and then 7 minutes on the practice pad, Okay so about me, I'm 5-9, And my seat height is roughly sorta in the middle of high and low, Like when i started playing drums, I used to sit extremely low, And that hurt my back, So then i sat super high, My performance was getting worse, So i like my seat height roughly in the middle, And for snare drum, Well, Since I play drums in a band at my school, It really depends of what music or what genre we're going to find and play, Because we play many sorts of songs, So if i play a super fast like groovy ska song, I will have my snare drum tilted towards me, If the song is sorta slow, Then i would slightly tilt my snare drum away but not too much, I do have my snare flat sometimes, But not all the time, For the toms, Let me begin with the Low Tom or Floor Tom, For me, The Floor Tom should be right next to my leg, As in, Very close, But not too close, If my Floor Tom was far away, I would just hit the rim, If it was TOO close, I would have to adjust my arm length and bend down to hit it, So sorta close but not too close should do, For the rack toms, Yes I use 3 toms not 2, My High Tom would be sitting a little bit low, And facing towards me, Because i feel comfortable, For the Middle Tom, Same answer, So, For cymbals, I would have my crash cymbals a little bit higher up and then tilt the cymbal towards me, For ride i like super low and the cymbal flat not tilted, And i use a china cymbal so for that, I like it to be not too high but, I like it right next to me, For hi hat, I like my hi hat right next to me, Idk why i like my Drums to squished into me but yeah, Anyway, That's about it really, Um I definitely earn that subscription! Thanks Stephen! :D
Thanks for subscribing, BiRDiE! :) That’s a great point you make there about how setup really depends on what style or genre you’re playing. It’s good to not be afraid to shift things around for different songs and different dynamics. You sum up the challenge of floor tom placement pretty well haha. Gotta get it close....but not awkwardly close...but you gotta avoid hitting the rim....all about compromise!
@tristontaylor15936 жыл бұрын
Trade for an e kit
@jaydavids64856 жыл бұрын
BiRDiE - practice 13 minutes a day...but not 11.
@hansvanderheide15625 жыл бұрын
Can hou translateur in dutch?
@sergejtrifonov85285 жыл бұрын
Wow. Were you SO tired at the end of the video? Thanks anyway ) You make very good videos on essential topics.
@gonzalocor15307 жыл бұрын
one vid full on the throne will be very helpful
@thenonglamorousdrummer7 жыл бұрын
This topic can definitely be explored more in depth. I’ll be planning some future content along these lines :) I think this topic is super interesting!
@taronsmith80917 жыл бұрын
12th
@AntoineKanaan6 жыл бұрын
my toms never project... why not?
@otistheyellowdog6 жыл бұрын
Antoine Kanaan tuning, maybe? If you feel like you are hitting them straight and in the middle, that would be the next thing to look at. There is a “sweet spot” in the tuning range to get good resonance. Good luck!
@RelMCProgram6 жыл бұрын
I need a throne that could be adjusted higher... 😂
@Axilleac6 жыл бұрын
A drummer should be able to play at any setup. If you are touring you'll see lots of different setups with minimum time to change them according to your needs. The setup also may vary according to the occasion. In the studio,all the pieces must not be very close,especially the cymbals and hihat so you can reach a better isolation level for each microphone with lesser bleeding. On stage off course you should be energetic and the crowd wants to see a drummer which is energetic and powerful and believe me that kind of energy does not fit in the super ergonomic setup you got at your practice room. The stool height,which is very important, it varies according the body type of the drummer.Low center of gravity bodies or short legged, should sit near or less than 90 degrees. Heavy legged bodies should sit higher.That ''just above 90 degrees'' never worked for me,I'm 6'2'' and my resting feet are 90 degrees,abit higher than 10 years before. And again,let your body speak,specially in live concerts you'll not keep the perfect posture like you swallowed a sword.You will slouch,you will lean,you will stretch,you'll thrust your pelvis to hit the kick,maybe you'll even stand up to choke the cymbal.
@angrypatriot53926 жыл бұрын
Hitting your cymbol on the edge with the shaft of the stick can result in the cymbol cracking.
@NotA-Lizard4 жыл бұрын
#6 reason im not comfortable with my kit: its been on backorder since march
@peaceandwealthseeker45043 жыл бұрын
Lmao facts even til today like that just got mine though
@gonzalocor15307 жыл бұрын
yasss
@johncontrada Жыл бұрын
i immediately thought of you when i saw this video. i think it makes a lot of sense, especially when you consider how double bass drum player set up their bass drums. And, as youve done anyway, taking the toms off the bass drum makes much sense, especially regarding access and angle.kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHmknKOAg6iNpsk
@gigalulmansur6 жыл бұрын
I'm 5'4 so setting up the kit to my height is a pain in the ass lol
@TheHarrisal215 жыл бұрын
Sucks to play big kits for you.😂
@DannyTOG7 жыл бұрын
I just set whatever is comfortable for me.
@steeezyjoey6 жыл бұрын
Or it's maybe the hardware that came with your kit.