5 Reasons You´re NOT Carving on Skis

In this how to carve on skis tutorial, we show you five reasons why intermediate skiers may struggle to carve on their skis, including aiming for too sharp of a turn, skiing on terrain that is too steep, using too much active rotation, having low edge angles, and making unnecessary movements. Enjoy learning about carving on skis and how to correct these 5 common mistakes with some helpful tips and ski drills. Book a Camp → ⛷️ stompitcamps.com/ 🚡
00:00 What you will learn in this carving tutorial
00:27 Reason 1 | You Are Aiming for a Too Sharp Turn
01:58 Join a Ski Camp & Learn to Rip a Turn
02:14 Asking Radko For More Reasons
02:57 Drill: J-Turn | Learn to Let the Skis Do the Work
03:43 Drill: Link Carved Turn | Patient Transition
04:26 Feedback | Feel the Silence
04:48 Reason 2 | You Are Skiing Too Steep Slopes
05:18 Drill: C-Shaped Turns | Control Speed & Gradually Ski Steeper Slopes
06:03 Feedback | Sense if You Can Keep Constant Speed
06:19 Asking David For More Reasons
07:16 Reason 3 | You Have too Low Edge Angles
07:44 Drill: Ridd the Training Wheels | Soften the Inside Leg
09:07 Reason 4 | Incompetent Inside Foot
09:41 Drill: Stationary Carving | Edging in Unison
10:34 Drill: Rail Roads | Edge in Unison
11:02 Feedback | Train with an Olympian (ad)
11:26 Reason 5 | You Are Doing Unnecessary Movements
12:02 Drill: Posture Reset | Find the Posture at the Transition
12:48 Feedback | Video Analysis | Look for Unnecessary Movements
13:06 ⛷️ Thank You for Watching til the end You Wonderful Skier! 💚
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[@sudhendupandey]

Do you have camps for kids 11 - 16 years? I have two highly enthusiastic young skiers in the family who can improve their skiing with your help. They are at 115 - 120 SKI IQ and use Carv all the time skiing.

[@paolobalconi95]

I am a good skier but I still watch all the StompIt videos just to make sure I'm not making some lazy mistakes lol. Keep up the good work guys!

[@StompItTutorials]

Thank you. When editing these videos I see my own lazy mistakes and try to fix it next time I ski.

[@verticalfelix]

Same😂

[@sugarsmith645]

Also keep in mind that slopes are different, so you need to adjust according to the slope. Steep slopes will require sharp turns for reducing speed, wide slopes allow wide carvings, etc... So enjoy the skiing and adjust to your slope.

[@WorldBeater123]

Part of the issue that intermediate skiers also have with carving is the top end speed you need to achieve and maintain with those wide turns on a steep slope. I think that gets overlooked a lot. When advanced skiers are carving the speed that it takes to do those wide turns is much greater than what a lot of intermediate skiers feel comfortable with.

[@pete6705]

That’s a good point. I’m a former racer, and have a hard time teaching intermediate skiers how to ski, because to carve a turn properly on a steep trail really means some big speed. And that’s the only way I know how to ski

[@RobBCactive]

The trick is to ski a slower line on faster runs, that's what he meant by C turns. At higher speed aerodynamic drag becomes significant, but on even a moderately steep slope maintaining control requires either braking, or reducing the effective steepness by traverses or fuller tighter rapid turns which require physical preparation and advanced skills to pull off. When I've skied any piste I'd call steep had moguls which are hard to carve through, that includes every slope I raced slalom or GS on. Why would you try teaching carving on a steep slope? It'll set up learners to fail. Using a slope where they want to ski faster maintaining speed rather than scrubbing it off encourages clean lines.

[@MixmasterA420]

just found your channel and I must say as someone whos grown up with a ski instructor parent you're doing an awesome job keep teachin the next generation of shredders and huckers!!!

[@StompItTutorials]

Fantastic to hear that! :)

[@timbosaurus]

Thanks for all these tips! I'm an intermediate skiier trying to start carving and will definitely be trying these out when I go to France at the end of Feb. Really well shot and edited video, the drone shots in particular were the most helpful I've seen in illustrating the J and C turns. Keep up the good work!

[@gofres]

Learning to carve feels amazing. I love the g forces in a turn 😍 If only my fitness could let me do it all day.

[@davidliu954]

thank you! ive been skidding all my turns and this is the next step i wanted to learn.

[@esthakp]

I credit this video with giving me the knowledge to finally learn how to carve! I am so excited about this breakthrough. Thank you for this helpful video - the explanations and demonstrations are so clear!

[@reinimechanic]

I enjoy the scenery at 2:30. Writing down some tips to try tomorrow, night skiing. Thanks!

[@swingman50]

Used all your stuff at Breck this week. My friends were amazed at my improvement over the last couple years. Keep' m coming! Thanks

[@StompItTutorials]

Amazing. Thank you very much!

[@rubbermoetroken]

Brilliant vid, if only I had seen it 5 years ago 🙂 explaining literally everything I had to find out the hard way to become a bit of a carver with my (too big) ass almost touching snow. Also wort mentioning, if you know how to properly ride the edges while carving, icy spots / steep slopes become relatively easy to conquer as a bonus.

[@willpease5604]

Another amazing video! I'm going out now to try these techniques! Thank you

[@user-xw9zu8qm8i]

Thank you! Super helpful tutorial !

[@ardenpowers7730]

Great Tips !! Properly executing cross over with high edge angle will help to achive a clean carve. Also, a poorly tuned ski is a contributing factor in regards to firmer snow conditions.

[@thewatchtowerstudy4511]

Another great video thank you. I think the problem for me is confidence. I understand the technique but it's when the slope is too steep and I'm looking down and my speed picks up that I'm kind of panicking a bit and going back to bad habits of skidding the back of the skis out

[@julestube2425]

What is the answer to this? more turns?

[@d1sablexx]

@@julestube2425 go more towards the mountain so you slow down

[@peterwilkins7013]

I have the same question. Especially when you see the good skiers who stay under control but aren't doing particularly big turns

[@Kerrkerrkerr]

Yah same here

[@jeffdeuchler1660]

One of your best videos yet!

[@patrickchase5614]

Harder snow also helps greatly once you get to a certain level of ability. Soft and especially non-uniformly soft snow allows your edges to "let go", and limits how much you can increase edge angle to tighten the carved radius. This is especially true on short+narrow specialist skis like FIS SLs or some of the shorter-radius carvers on the market. wrt the sensation of falling to the inside, my breakthrough (many years ago) was internalizing that my core and my feet must follow separate paths, and that the rest of my body's job is to keep them in the right relation. When you think of it that way "Falling to the inside" is really just a matter of lowering the core while allowing the skis to carve out from under it. The "lowering" part is really important, because a lot of people "fall to the inside" while staying too upright, and that leaves them incapable of loading up and driving the outside ski. I have to visualize my core moving _down_ close to the snow surface as my skis move out from under it. Also once you've gotten the "lowering" part down then you can build upon it by working on staying low through a quick turn transition. And of course when you're on a really steep slope and _must_ skid, the trick is to do it entirely up above the turn and steer the ski back out into the carve before the apex. That's how the racers roll.

[@StompItTutorials]

True I had some of that in shooting this video for short sections.

[@patrickchase5614]

@@StompItTutorials Yup, I saw that and it motivated me to make that comment. It looked like you were loading up the edges about as much you possibly could with the surface layer that loose.

[@youngcansuela8327]

2nd paragraph is a really long and weird way to say “hip angulation and upper/lower body separation is what you want, not tipping”.

[@patrickchase5614]

@@youngcansuela8327 I was trying to describe how I had to "feel" upper/body separation (like 30 years ago) to develop it. That sort of thing is always a bit ideosyncratic - different people perceive it differently. Also it's one thing to say "separation" and another to internalize how to use it. There are plenty of "separated" things that I can do with my upper and lower bodies that aren't conducive to good skiing. I think that's actually a problem in how a lot of people teach/explain this.

[@GarethLee70]

Sensational video, easily the best I've seen for my liking. It gives me hope getting out of my "intermediate" rut!

[@richardgordon6379]

Great video, I'm an intermediate trying to learn how to carve. The points in this video is exactly what I'm working on, I tend to do Z shape turns not C shape and twist my upper body. Thanks for the tips.

[@StompItTutorials]

Glad it was helpful! Once you learn to carve the the Z-shape will be gone as along as you carve.

[@1972hermanoben]

What fantastic insight and instruction, thankyou 😊

[@MrDavewales]

Great video thanks, some amazing drills/thoughts.

[@frankpratte8358]

Great video, beautiful to watch and great information.

[@PompeyBoy66]

Really good instruction. Thanks. I started carving in Italy at Alto Sangro near Monte Casino- near empty slopes outside weekends, but short ski season

[@xerocrashious8355]

Great video, as always

[@fracorallo]

This are great tips!! Thanks!

[@sreen13frames]

Great lessons mate 👏👏👏

[@MrVnick1]

Beautiful tutorial and send a cinematography. Better than ski lessons.

[@StompItTutorials]

Wow, thanks. We worked pretty hard on it so that is appriciated.

[@KyleYoungblood-mm7dl]

First time I ever skiied, I was 4 years old. I’m 24 now. My skiing career started off consistent, every weekend during the winter my family would go to our vacation home in the mountains for ski trips. Grandparents got old, kids started growing up and the house was sold cause no one used it. From ages 13-20 I hardly ever went. Maybe 3 times in between. 20-24 I started going more often and consistent. So I’m no pro but I’m definitely not a novice. I feel more safe and confident skiing in between trees on a steep slope than I do carving down a mountain. When I was little I skiied with all my older cousins who pushed me to keep up with them so I feel like I’m lacking a lot of key technique that I shoulda learned as a kid. Thank you to this video I can see my weak points and I know where to strengthen for the next time I go out on the mountains.

[@MB-nn3jw]

Very useful. I shall be looking at implementing some of these next week. Thanks.

[@StompItTutorials]

Glad it was helpful! Have fun.

[@niekversteege]

Wonderful, this is exactly the point I am at in terms of skill level. Thanks! Will try these drills.

[@StompItTutorials]

Have fun!

[@einsavocado4675]

greetings from papaplatte. you talked with one of his friends while riding the lift and he was streaming

[@derekp6636]

sounds like i'm overpowering the turns and skidding, looks like I'll be practicing this weekend!

[@MikeAndy-km6tg]

I find that softening the inside ski really helps smooth out my turns and transitions from turn to turn.

[@Micheal-Ireland]

Thank you! 😊

[@Steph-iw3hr]

Nice video . Step by step and be patient

[@StompItTutorials]

Thank you 👊🏻

[@simondemsar1766]

A lot depends on the snow. On steep and very hard, ice-like surface it's very difficult to carve properly. Conditions in this video seem perfect, which makes carving much easier. And let's be honest - we often ski in difficult conditions, so this video is a bit misleading. I would love to see a video in not-so-perfect conditions.

[@matteo.righettii]

Insane quality❤

[@StompItTutorials]

Thank you. I'm pleased with how it turned out 🤙🏻

[@Andrew-yp6ov]

One of your best videos

[@StompItTutorials]

Ohlala thank you!

[@oscarstorm4694]

So true, when i learned to carve was really when i started loving to ski. Tak!

[@StompItTutorials]

Awesome! Varsågod. :)

[@magnificoas388]

you improved your skiing so much ! Impressive :)

[@lifterb6291]

I'm a snowboarder but watching this. Man, its so cool to watch carve on two skies satisfying to watch.

[@death2pc]

All great points. Caveat on TOO STIFF boots and skis.

[@StompItTutorials]

Also, or too soft boots and skis

[@StompItTutorials]

Too, then anything about skiing.

[@piknick111]

I switched to skiing this year after snowboarding for over 25 years, been super fun and picked it up super fast. Need to work on the carving more to be more smooth. That and skating, can’t seem to figure that out yet. Want to teach my daughter to ski when she gets a little older.

[@JackBosphorus]

Thank you for video it’s vey useful..

[@MrButterpantz]

Terrific video

[@itamarperez]

Top content, thank you!

[@StompItTutorials]

Much appreciated! Have a lovely day!

[@innover7992]

papaplatte stream represent

[@StompItTutorials]

What is Papaplatte stream?

[@Stickman006]

@@StompItTutorialsGerman streamer

[@Stickman006]

@@StompItTutorialsidk what this comment is about but he is on a skiing trip rn

[@DrBeerface]

Awesome video

[@esideobryan2228]

Thanks!

[@hiddenpersonalities]

Really great video, touching the carving points really freakin' well, especially the pressure on foot note you mentioned! You are a great athlete to be honest! On another point I want to change my equipment in a few weeks, cause I have old ones (7-10 years). I'm a huge fan of Volkl(my first crush)/Atomic/Head, so do you have any suggestions? I ski really good, since I was 7yrs old, but I have no knowledge in terms of equipment, too ignorant I believe. Your help is appreciated, thank you!

[@gairnmclennan5876]

Really great video !!

[@StompItTutorials]

Glad you liked it!

[@jamescooper1485]

Another great tutorial , and you crack me up 😂😂 .. very funny .. i strapped a go pro to my ankle and really saw how much i need to do more of the drills you show ! 😮

[@StompItTutorials]

Thank you!

[@danielgarofolo6294]

I’m more of a beginner but have realized that my greatest flaw right now is my fear of leaning my knees to the side at all, causing me to skid (reason 4) Will try to use these tips!

[@mutenroshimuaddib8288]

Danke!🎿⛷

[@benjaminroth]

love you buddy

[@user-ro7pm5ee6v]

Love from Romania ❤

[@cristianopereira6696]

Will try this tomorrow

[@StompItTutorials]

Have fun tomorow!

[@trashhook]

Posture reset is a nice tool to have in the toolbox 👍

[@StompItTutorials]

It sure is!

[@nealinnc]

It sure looks easy!

[@aubreya2641]

Gonna have to try the left hand wipe some time.

[@StompItTutorials]

Wash your hands after.

[@Peter-do8gy]

Hi your videos are fun and vert informative and clear to understand. Quick question, are you wearing a Mammut Stoney HS jacket? If so I'm guesssing it is pretty warm as it looks like you are skiing in an area that would experience variable ski temperatures and conditions. Thanks!

[@tea_and_toast7099]

5/5 for me 😥🤣, hopefully sort it out or at least make some progress in Feb 24. Thank you for your awesome and funny instruction.

[@StompItTutorials]

You got this!

[@janis4847]

Where in Laax was this filmed? Looks beautiful!

[@MrThaibox123]

Amazing videos!!! Thanks so much. Where is this filmed please?

[@isaacwesterback4499]

i think all his vids are at laxx

[@ptupy]

Nice place to ski. It’s much easier to do it like a pro when you have a terrain like this. I live and ski on the East Coast, and it’s almost impossible to find places like this. Ice, narrow trails, poor grooming, you name it. Had some nice trips to Europe years ago, but not recently.

[@Stable_parsec877]

And if you try this on those conditions, you go too fast and your pass gets clipped

[@jacquelyngordon2079]

😂😂 would love to see this guy doing this tutorial at ANY east coast mountain. Including during a ‘good’ snow year. Silent skiing? No such thing, ice ice baby

[@scottrobertson9788]

Awesome lesson, cheers for posting! Looks like a great mountain as well! One question I had was when is appropriate to add in pole plants in the turns? Watching your tutorial makes me think I use them too much!

[@Sqwivig]

It's a good habit to use a pole plant every time you turn. Unless you are making pole plants without turning around them, you aren't using too many pole plants.

[@scottrobertson9788]

@@Sqwivig I generally use a pole plant for any turn, but in this video the advice given was to do away with the upper body movement of pole plants while working on curved turns. He made it look super smooth, so I was wondering if he recommends incorporating them again once your carved turns have improved

[@Sqwivig]

@@scottrobertson9788 Yes I think you have the right idea

[@Cameron-ue7lu]

Just got back from Three Valleys, France! Using your Stomp IT tips, man what a blast especially on the newly laid powder. I am a snowboarder and switched to skiing, and without your tips, I would not have progressed so far so quickly! Thankyou! So here' the deal. My major issue was trying to keep my skis close together because of course the closer they get, the more control you have. For some strange reason, I just couldn't get my skis close enough without my balance suffering. Any tips gratefully received!

[@JohanSprang]

Excellent video! When you're doing your gentle, shallow turns, do you still drive the inside knee slightly forward? (I couldn't quite tell in the video). Focusing on the inside knee was one of the key things that unlocked clean carving turns. I'm not always achieving it, but when I do, I go silent and supersonic.

[@StompItTutorials]

Sure it's important to tilt the inside ski inward a wee so the skis got the exact same edge angle. When you say drive the knee forward I get worried you may end up twisting the hip out of the turn which is not good. Don't do that. How ever the inside knee will be forward as you need to bring it up.

[@JohanSprang]

@@StompItTutorials thank you for the feedback! I will have the hip out of the turn in mind next time I go skiing.

[@donataso6366]

Hi, thanks for a nice video! I have a different problem though. Sometimes, when I have a bit of speed and try to do narrower turns with high edge angles, at the exit of the turn the outside ski starts breaking off of the groove, resulting in a really unpleasant feeling when it breaks out, grabs the snow again, and breaks, and grabs, etc. I understand that the edge angle is too high to skid and the downhill force is too strong to keep the ski in track, but I keep doing it and still not sure how to fix it. Any suggestions? :)

[@jager417]

Tell me something about your boots, do you have to readjust them thru a day on skis. Like do they get looser? Thanks for a reply

[@ChrisvanRun007]

Love the side remarks about how the example skills is not perfect. 😅

[@agpmjm]

The secret is: trust the skis. Put weight on the edge and wait. They WILL turn due to their design.

[@StompItTutorials]

It's a good starting point!

[@Barneyfo]

great vid! what's the name of this ski site?

[@vadimbobrov]

enjoying your videos. what ski resort/piste is that?

[@StompItTutorials]

Laax, some Piste of Muotta Chairlift

[@direwolf6234]

it also helps to use your poles to 'focus' the turn while raising and lowering your butt .. up/plant/turn ...

[@afellowinnewengland6142]

It's a great video with high production values, but the setting is unrealistic for a number of us who ski on narrow and extremely crowded trails. I'd like to see you do this instruction on a 30 foot wide trail surrounded by dozens of bad skiers, snowboarders and chaotic surface conditions. It's easy to improve and do these drills when you have massive open areas and perfect conditions.

[@fl0ppan642]

I have the problem where my outside kinda gets stuck when I have a high edge angle when it’s a little bit of softer snow on top. Can’t tell if it’s the ski or ski boot that is getting stuck. Anyone got any tips?

[@Danisthegoat]

i can carve left well but I struggle more when carving right. Any tips?

[@IgorChernovHere]

Hi @StompItTutorials, which slope is that? Can you please recommend a place for beginner / intermediate wide long slopes to enjoy the ride? Pizol, Davos, Laax, Togenburg? Thanks in advance :)

[@JohanSprang]

This is probably not an answer for you, but for any nordic skier with the same question; Find a day with few people in Hemsedal and do piste 11 (turistlöypa). A gentle slope of 3.6km, but not too gentle.

[@patrion6028]

Thats Flims Laax, mostly (entirely?) filmed on the Flims side. La Siala and Mutta Rodunda. There are also some decent intermediate slopes around there, with the occasional steeper (but manageable) part. For Laax side, at Crap Sogn Gion, there are 3 slopes where intermediates can progress nicely (Crest la Siala -> Alp Dado and Crap -> Alp Dado runs). Crap -> Plaun is more for (advancing) intermediates if you ask me. I found Kloster side more suitable for intermediates than the slopes at Jakobshorn. No idea about Pizol, Flums has some pretty beginner and intermediate friendly terrain. Avoid Engelberg if you're a beginner.

[@itotallycare]

I started skiing 2 winters ago and I got to the point where I could do blue and even some reds without falling pretty quickly. I thought that I was doing it but then I took a couple of lessons and the guy told me that I am more so sliding down than carving and I realised that it was exactly what I was doing. But the thing about that is that if I try to do more carving I quickly end up going too fast for what I can handle right now. I guess I just need to stick to really slow blue runs and focus on carving even though I will be going really slow? Also what about ski length, It always seems to me that the people who look the most in control out there and are the most nimble got smaller skis than me. At my length (181 cm) I was told that I should have at least 175 cm skis but I often feel like I would do better if they were a bit shorter.

[@gordanpetrovski5282]

Are there some skis that are uncarvable? Like too wide underfoot, too long skis, radius... What about tech (pin) bindings for touring?

[@bier974]

Good cameraman

[@markmd9]

Theoretically this seems so easy but in practice skis have a mind on their own.

[@StompItTutorials]

Haha. I enjoyed that. I feel this way first day of the season. Ski more and you two will merge into one shredding organism!

[@andrei3720]

The problem can also be the skis themselves. Once I upgraded to better skis but still nothing crazy, it was much much eassier to carve because they are heavier and stiffer and better in any way than the beginer skis I had before, even tho they were new but just a cheaper model

[@yunablauhut8991]

Greetings from Papaplatte

[@Elias-ju9kt]

hello from papaplatte stream

[@simonpruitt9544]

What percentage pressure on inside foot vs outside? Cause I feel like when I’m getting my skis to actually carve I’m like 90% outside. Is this wrong?

[@StompItTutorials]

No. High is good.

[@BogusQuacky]

also depends where you’re skiing. east coast will tear you up

[@YellowMayo]

hey from papaplatte stream

[@StompItTutorials]

What happened on this stream and what is that stream?

[@verhurterficker5686]

www.twitch.tv/papaplatte@@StompItTutorials

[@andreacolaianni6305]

Do I still need to push my hip outside to increse the angle right ?)

[@StompItTutorials]

Hip to the inside of the turn.

[@soufianeg3815]

Number 1 reason why you’re not carving, is because you’re reading this comment rather than actually riding skis.

[@StompItTutorials]

👍🏼👊🏻

[@ZoliX01]

When I “fall over”, sometimes I feel a sensation that I’m literally falling to the ground. (Happened once) What am I doing wrong? Bad posture? Not enough speed? Thanks!:)

[@isaacwesterback4499]

more speed

[@davidriedmiller6576]

yes, more speed is right. Carving will build speed fast , so start on easy greens and slowly work up@@isaacwesterback4499

[@marsleyparsley]

When was this video filmed? I think I'm in one of the frames lol

[@StompItTutorials]

Wednesday 3rd of Jan 2023. Where you?

[@thomas4328]

Dear Stomp It, I love your videos, but your list of reasons unfortunately do not apply for me. The reason I am not carving on skis is...that i cannot afford the sport anymore....it became to expensive.....😞 But anyway all the best for the rest to the seasons for all active drivers.. All the best Tom

[@Kushiba.Sensei]

Un tuto de Michel Blanc en skis. Que demander de plus ?

[@crljo8256]

What skies are those, they look like bent chettler but in carving skis shape?

[@StompItTutorials]

Atomic x9s

[@ytucciozzi]

Can someone explain me what the sticks are for? I watched this video and the only use for the sticks was to lean on them to demonstrate the technique while standing. Sticks had their role in the pre-carve era, but to me they don't seem to have a role with carving skis. Except, maybe, when doing tutorial videos or you want to secure yourself a better place in the long queue for the lift.

[@CrustySVK]

Sticks have the same role today as they did in the era before carving. (in carving era is better to use shorter poles) Pole plants are good for determining the rhythm, especially for its timing. They also help to stabilize top half of body if u use them correctly. The work of the sticks in this video is not very suitable for demonstrating how to use them correctly. Look for videos with high-quality skiers who, even if their videos do not really address a specific problem, they do it correctly. Paul Lorenz, Jf Beaulieu, Reilly McGlashan... are the best guys on YT to follow.

[@CrustySVK]

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[@daniel_960_]

You don’t need them. But they’re nice to have, especially when you need them like on a flat. When carving they basically help you sense the track.

[@CrustySVK]

@@daniel_960_ You definitely NEED them!!!

[@CrustySVK]

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[@jamestripp9145]

2 more weeks until my next ski trip. Ive got 8 days under my belt on ski's is it too ambitious to be trying to carve already?

[@bjrnstrand8439]

Depends on your personal progress, but if you feel confident you could always try your best :)

[@daniel_960_]

You should definitely try. If you can already confidently stand on skis.

[@gboates]

A good video for those lazy tobogganers. Most people on the slopes are weak and not here to work out.

[@foyorama]

The most important part of skiing: HAVE FUN..... to get better you just need to ski more, 4 days a year will not make you a good skier, but 50 to 70 days a year will make you a great skier....so you want to be an expert then move to a ski town, but always think of having fun first