5 Socialism Myths: Part 2

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John Stossel

John Stossel

Күн бұрын

Many young people love socialism. They don’t like capitalism. They don’t notice what capitalism give them. They protest in Nikes, and tweet about it from their iPhones.
In this video, I continue where I left off in my last video, and debunk more myths about socialism.
The first 2 socialist myths are here: • 5 Socialism Myths: Part 1
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Myth #3: Socialism brings good things if it’s DEMOCRATIC socialism.
“Democratic socialists believe both the government and the economy should be run by the people by way of the ballot box,” says Van Jones approvingly on CNN.
By the ballot box-that’s how Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez took power.
“They can start off democratically elected [but] once they centralize control over the economy, it becomes impossible to democratically unelect them,” explains economist Benjamin Powell. “Now democracy in Venezuela is a sham.”
Socialism ALWAYS ends up authoritarian. We explain why in the video above.

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@nope929
@nope929 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if people started saying, "It wasn't real fascism."
@gplastic
@gplastic 3 жыл бұрын
Well it literally wasn’t...
@garrettfish8471
@garrettfish8471 3 жыл бұрын
@@gplastic Here we are.
@astritbushi2587
@astritbushi2587 3 жыл бұрын
Haha funny Catholics and Muslims they are awoke hahaha
@ianjharris
@ianjharris 3 жыл бұрын
Just wait.
@kimobrien.
@kimobrien. 3 жыл бұрын
@@ianjharris Somebody may very well say that and you might even get Republican Socialists.
@MrFromminsk
@MrFromminsk 3 жыл бұрын
Socialism - 99% getting equally poor, while 1% is getting extremely rich.
@mecanwinmac2796
@mecanwinmac2796 3 жыл бұрын
Precisely what is happening in America today. Scary huh?
@nescius2
@nescius2 3 жыл бұрын
@@mecanwinmac2796 correct, at least since de-regulations of late 198*
@alethiapotter9218
@alethiapotter9218 3 жыл бұрын
Genius statement 👏
@F-Tier_Physique
@F-Tier_Physique 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexpeer2 The US is less capitalist than Scandinavian countries lmao. Look at the business tax and burden of regulations. Extreme capitalism is closer to Switzerland or HK, some of the best countries in the world. You are just repeating statements you've been told, that have no root in reality.
@39Chevy
@39Chevy 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexpeer2 The idea that the US has way less regulations is the illusion, bud. You know literally nothing.
@vatoloco1528
@vatoloco1528 Жыл бұрын
"Its hard to exercise political freedom if you don't have economic freedom. If you're dependent upon the state for your livelihood you lose your voice to oppose them." That's one of the best arguments against socialism I've heard!!! 👍
@jacksevert3099
@jacksevert3099 Жыл бұрын
Yup! It's time we defund the Socialist Police Unions!
@sekarmaltum1695
@sekarmaltum1695 Жыл бұрын
it took months for the gov to give me social support -oh i was given money for those 3+ months.. about as much as a 25hour/week job on minimum wage, would have gotten me in barely more than one month .. honestly, i would prefer working some low end job in a grocery store, rather than be dependent on this inefficient, uncaring and at times hostile system. also im thousands in debt -why? well, it is MANDATORY to have insurance here. yes, *MANDATORY* and the insurance knows the exact dates that you do and do not have job -guess what they do if you dont have a job? 1.) silently demand that you tell them about your financial situaiton *which they already know about, more so than the unemployment agency* 2.) MAKE YOU PAY MORE, and treat you as if you are now suddenly a successful self employed person im thousands in debt, simply for not giving the "insurance" information they already had. and they dont care.
@sovietcitizen9450
@sovietcitizen9450 11 ай бұрын
You dont have economic freedom in capitalist system unless you are rich. You cant get proper education, a house to live in and cant even get medical help without putting a huge debt on yourself. In Soviet Union anyone could join the party and raise all the way up to Politburo, soviets were consisting of regular people and there was an effort to make more people politically active and speak up. In Soviet Union your livelihood did not depend on your political views, except there was some corruption like in every other country, but KGB and OBKhSS worked to root it out.
@jonasastrom7422
@jonasastrom7422 8 ай бұрын
@@sovietcitizen9450 then why did it collapse? why were the shelves empty? why did the economy stagnate? why does the US have the highest median income in the world? Why does economic freedom correlate so heavily with quality of life?
@tefky7964
@tefky7964 5 ай бұрын
For quite long time main socialist groups were for decentralization, like syndicalists and various groups of anarcho-socialists.
@anthonymorris5084
@anthonymorris5084 Жыл бұрын
"I can't wait to finally finish this raft so I can escape all of this capitalism". What no one said, ever.
@geegeetomlinson2316
@geegeetomlinson2316 Жыл бұрын
live in a soclialist country here, and can 100% inform you nobody is leaving in rafts - in fact people are very happy to immigrate to New Zealand, plenty of americans included. So, yeah, GET REKT SCRUB.
@selfdo
@selfdo Жыл бұрын
Nor did a couple of West German families cobble together a makeshift balloon to ESCAPE to East Germany.
@winstonbyronic1248
@winstonbyronic1248 Жыл бұрын
Millions of Yankees sneaking into Mexico. 😆
@cobanus2862
@cobanus2862 Жыл бұрын
Other way around bean boy
@anthonymorris5084
@anthonymorris5084 Жыл бұрын
@@cobanus2862 Try reading it properly bean boy.
@marcustulliuscicero9512
@marcustulliuscicero9512 3 жыл бұрын
"A dependent voter is a dependable voter."
@miguelcrusoe7019
@miguelcrusoe7019 3 жыл бұрын
and how is an election between two conservative right-wing party considered a democratic one... You can choose? between what? You need more parties in the US, and election fraud is a terrible problem (of cause I am not referring to Donald Trump's bs, neither to the Russia Gate bs, but to all the efforts to oppress voters, especially in inner-party-votes)
@joshcanttakeajoke2853
@joshcanttakeajoke2853 3 жыл бұрын
@@miguelcrusoe7019 what oppression of voters??
@wiseguy9202
@wiseguy9202 3 жыл бұрын
@@miguelcrusoe7019 what oppression are you babbling about?
@miguelcrusoe7019
@miguelcrusoe7019 3 жыл бұрын
Lack of polling stations, voter registration long before the ellection, etc. etc.
@wiseguy9202
@wiseguy9202 3 жыл бұрын
@@miguelcrusoe7019 how is that suppression and where? I live in a pretty rural location and although we only have one polling station, people manage to vote. Weird huh? People actually have to make some type of effort to elect the leader of the free world...
@TheCrusaderRabbits
@TheCrusaderRabbits 3 жыл бұрын
What did socialists use before candels? Answer: electricity
@kimobrien.
@kimobrien. 3 жыл бұрын
What will bosses do without maids, gardeners and pool boys? Like like ordinary people instead of kings.
@amihere383
@amihere383 3 жыл бұрын
@@kimobrien. Robots. Menial jobs will be replaced with droids, why pay a person 15 an hour when it costs $15 a day in power to run a roomba with cup holders?
@kimobrien.
@kimobrien. 3 жыл бұрын
@@amihere383 Who's going to buy all the trinkets you meatheads dream up when nobody has any money wages to buy them? How fast can you type on a keyboard?
@MilwaukeeF40C
@MilwaukeeF40C 3 жыл бұрын
@@kimobrien. When production costs approach nothing, not as much money will be needed to buy anything. Then we can simply not give anything to socialists for the fun of it.
@kimobrien.
@kimobrien. 3 жыл бұрын
@@MilwaukeeF40C We are a movement and you've never gotten very far with your secret police, your discriminatory blacklisting and your firing. We keep defeating you starting with the 1940 Minneapolis trial. We lost to Stalin and Hitler but only temporarily. See we are born without fear of the ruling class. We know how to push back. In the 1930's GM was the largest company in the world they signed a union contract after a successful sit down strike.
@buck7268
@buck7268 Жыл бұрын
I don't know, the DemSocs on my campus swore they weren't "weird tankies," and then lost it as soon as I suggested that Fidel Castro may have been a bad guy. Their defense? "Come on, nobody's perfect!"
@DaFunkler-gp6ie
@DaFunkler-gp6ie Жыл бұрын
In reality nobody is perfect. Thats why we have to weigh their good and bad deeds. Fidel Castro overthrew a dictatorship that kill around 20,000 people, which is great. However according to some data, under Castro around 10,000 people died in Cuba. Personally I think Fidel was a evil hypocrite but the point is to weigh ones deeds.
@brendanflynn5004
@brendanflynn5004 Жыл бұрын
Unless it’s a straight, white, Christian male. Then they’re down-right evil! SMH…..
@scottallen3907
@scottallen3907 6 ай бұрын
I’m sorry I don’t see the virtue. Basically what was said here is “See, he only killed 10000 people”. But at least he’s not that guy. That is literally how alcoholics reason..
@scottallen3907
@scottallen3907 6 ай бұрын
And also let’s not forget the hypocrisy here.. denouncing evil capitalism while he personally walked around wearing 2 Rolexes .. I have yet to see an advocate leader of socialism practice it.
@leviathan68w78
@leviathan68w78 11 ай бұрын
What's crazy is that at the socialist convention literally everything they were complaining about was government. i.e. socialism.
@uberraschtedame1510
@uberraschtedame1510 3 жыл бұрын
"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it". - Thomas Sowell
@MidwesternCoon
@MidwesternCoon 2 жыл бұрын
I Love me some Sowell
@userhome3601
@userhome3601 2 жыл бұрын
I could provide the opposite quote from an equally misinformed individual.
@uberraschtedame1510
@uberraschtedame1510 2 жыл бұрын
@@userhome3601 "Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude." -Alexis de Tocqueville
@pollypurree1834
@pollypurree1834 Жыл бұрын
@@userhome3601 Socialism cannot work because of the inequality amongst people. People have varying degrees of ambition ranging from a Trump/Elon Musk type all the way down to a welfare queen living in her slum. There are all sorts of ambition levels in-between those 2 extremes. Resentment builds in the people who have any form of ambition and the socialist system inevitably collapses. That's why the USSR collapsed in 1991 and transformed into the capitalist democracy of Russia. It was due to the bitter resentment of economic "equality". Anyone who had more ambition than a welfare queen wanted more out of life. I was a tourist in the USSR the day it collapsed. That was the common complaint. They wanted more out of life than being locked into servitude for others.
@ingridalexander1492
@ingridalexander1492 Жыл бұрын
your're thinking of Communism sweety
@FederalInvestigationofBureau
@FederalInvestigationofBureau 3 жыл бұрын
I think that many confuse "socialism" and "a capitalist society with a welfare system". They want free healthcare and education, not collectively owned factories.
@Nathan-jh1ho
@Nathan-jh1ho 3 жыл бұрын
Most self proclaimed socialist think this way. But if you say government should control the economy they'd also agree.
@ollikoskiniemi6221
@ollikoskiniemi6221 3 жыл бұрын
You'd be surprised and disgusted by how many actually support textbook socialism
@Chuck1Norris
@Chuck1Norris 3 жыл бұрын
If you ask most socialists, that’s absolutely what they want. They’ll say “workers should decide” which means the workers run the company.
@TXKafir
@TXKafir 3 жыл бұрын
You're exactly right. However, a US politician running on creating an even bigger welfare state than we have now would have trouble getting votes. If you dress it up as _democratic_ socialism, you can fool enough people into voting for you.
@Nathan-jh1ho
@Nathan-jh1ho 3 жыл бұрын
@@Chuck1Norris the problem is any decently sized company can't run if everyone gets to decide on decision. Economic responsibilities are spread out so much, no one has a direct stake in their descions. Not saying people shouldn't try doing so, it's a free market. Small business can run this way. But anything more then a dozen employees would make it extremely inefficient. Which is why it always turns into the state dictating the allocation of resources, price control etc. Which brings authoritarianism and stills not efficient.
@HulksterHogan
@HulksterHogan Жыл бұрын
I never understood how giving the government sole control of the economy is somehow "power to the people".
@travissmith2211
@travissmith2211 2 жыл бұрын
"And the trees were all kept equal by hatchet, axe and saw". As a teenager I realized what they meant. Bad thing is that so many would be happy if everyone was as miserable as them.
@stevegraham2535
@stevegraham2535 Жыл бұрын
And the leftist hated Neil Peart for thinking such thoughts.
@selfdo
@selfdo Жыл бұрын
@@stevegraham2535 RIP, Neil Peart.
@Jerry_Fried
@Jerry_Fried 3 жыл бұрын
When socialists look at socialist states, they see a field of manure with a rose growing in the middle of it and they say, "Look how beautiful that rose is." When they look at a capitalist state, they see a field of roses with a pile of manure in the middle of it and they say, "Look how ugly that manure is."
@tubeguy4066
@tubeguy4066 3 жыл бұрын
Both sides have problems. What about having a field with only roses? It's possiblE
@Texas75023
@Texas75023 3 жыл бұрын
Very well stated. The current "Burn It Down" BLM rhetoric will only cause murders, riots, and eventually starvation when the producers are exterminated.
@warrioroflight6872
@warrioroflight6872 3 жыл бұрын
@@tubeguy4066 No system on earth has only roses. All humans are imperfect and only a fool can expect a Utopian society to be built by imperfect beings. All our societies are imperfect and there's no changing that no matter what you do.
@Jerry_Fried
@Jerry_Fried 3 жыл бұрын
@@tubeguy4066 I believe strongly that it is not possible. There cannot be a complex social system that allows only for good outcomes for every person. It is a truism of human nature that every person will make some bad decisions and that some people will make almost all bad decisions. Bad decisions lead to bad outcomes. There can't be a system which recognizes human nature in which outcomes are not dependent upon decisions. The best that can be hoped for is a system in which each person has the liberty to realize his potential to whatever degree he is willing to achieve it, free of coercion and unjust obstruction, and to minimize the number of people who make, and the severity of, bad decisions. Such a system of liberty inherently includes the latitude to fail or act badly. Every right carries within it the slack for bad actors to misuse it. (Unfortunately, as an aside, too many people think that defending a right when it is exercised badly is the same as defending the bad action.) So, the system for the most good outcomes, fewest bad outcomes, good outcomes of the highest expression and bad outcomes of the least harm would be built on free market capitalism, minimal republican government and personal liberty in all aspects of life. Such a system existed until January 20, 2021. Whether it exists now or will continue to exist into the future is up in the air.
@dimex3362
@dimex3362 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jerry_Fried very well said.
@anlasma7942
@anlasma7942 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, government is handling these affairs quite terribly, let's give them more power to solve it!
@Kraang
@Kraang 3 жыл бұрын
I'm from the government and I'm here to help
@Supernautiloid
@Supernautiloid 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, privately owned enterprise is handling these affairs quite terribly, let’s give them more power to solve it! “I’m from Exxon Mobile and I’m here to help.”
@Philly1cheasteak
@Philly1cheasteak 3 жыл бұрын
You're implying Trump and Biden are basically the same.
@Kraang
@Kraang 3 жыл бұрын
@@Philly1cheasteak Biden is exactly what the media tried to warn us about Trump. Trump cares about the people, Biden cares about his net worth.
@Supernautiloid
@Supernautiloid 3 жыл бұрын
@@Philly1cheasteak They are the same. Just two different cheeks on the ass of global capitalism.
@metallord6960
@metallord6960 Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite jokes is "Why did Stalin hate Hitler? Because Hitler actually fed his people."
@SILENCE_THE_MEDIA
@SILENCE_THE_MEDIA Жыл бұрын
An old black man once told me that there is no difference to Communism or fascism because each one can lead to the other and now I believe it.
@UncleKennysPlace
@UncleKennysPlace 3 жыл бұрын
“The government you elect is the government you deserve.” ― Thomas Jefferson
@bubbafromprison
@bubbafromprison 3 жыл бұрын
Except the people in the United States aren't electing the swamp rats in government anymore. Big tech, corporations, wall street and foreign adversaries put Biden in the White House.
@Zhicano
@Zhicano 3 жыл бұрын
Did he say that to his slaves too?
@MilwaukeeF40C
@MilwaukeeF40C 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zhicano The principles of Jefferson were the beginning of the end of slavery.
@Zhicano
@Zhicano 3 жыл бұрын
@@MilwaukeeF40C the abolition movement preceded Jefferson by centuries and grew overtime irrespective of Jefferson. Jefferson was a hypocrite. All his ideas of freedom yet he aligned himself with other slave owners to create a new country were the practice of slavery would continue since it was ending in the British Empire.
@jackmorgan8931
@jackmorgan8931 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zhicano So once upon a time, there was "slavery," defined as black man working in the fields for white man and in return for his labor, white man gave him...food, clothing, and shelter. Here in 2021, about all I am seeing is the self-described descendants of those "slaves" still getting...free food, free shelter, and free money...just absent the need to labor. But hey, at least those beatings and lynchings stopped, right? Oh, and now, those white folks giving away all that free stuff? Oh, such nice people they are, right? And yes, Jefferson was such a...what's the word you used...oh yes, "hypocrite". And LBJ, that wonderful man who introduced black people to, you know, "Civil Rights" and, never forget that "Great Society" that started giving all those black people all that stuff because, well, golly, he really, really cared about them. No, nothing "hypocritical" at all about removing chains from a man's hands and feet and then putting in his brain where he becomes too stupid to think for himself because, well, look at all the free stuff we're getting. Thank you for clarifying all of this.
@TaylorSharkey
@TaylorSharkey 3 жыл бұрын
John Stossel is a man of reason.
@adam360
@adam360 3 жыл бұрын
Democratic socialist states are heaven for corrupt politicians. take a look at srilanka one of the poorest countries
@Flo-fs7iw
@Flo-fs7iw 3 жыл бұрын
​@@adam360 yeah becaue there is no corruption in the US going on
@firingallcylinders2949
@firingallcylinders2949 3 жыл бұрын
@@Flo-fs7iw Yes because we're suffering from early onset Socialism in the US
@pringleaddict5827
@pringleaddict5827 3 жыл бұрын
Can John Stossel be my dad please?
@shermanngjazz
@shermanngjazz 3 жыл бұрын
I wish Stossel can be president right now smh
@indyrock8148
@indyrock8148 2 жыл бұрын
A worker doesn't want to control the means of production. A worker wants to clock off and drink a beer watching the Simpson's.
@defiantspirit8512
@defiantspirit8512 Жыл бұрын
And workers won't control the means of production, the party does same as always. They really think they're part of something but they're just stepping stones used by people with more charisma and better lying skills using the dream of a guy that never held down a job. Communists, socialists whatever they want to call themselves will keep doing this to people for as long as they can keep their mistakes out of the public's mouths with that wasn't real socialism or communism.
@selfdo
@selfdo Жыл бұрын
And in a free market economy, he CHOOSES where he works and accepts the compensation and working conditions, and when he's on his own time, what he spends his wages on. He CHOOSES what beer to drink as long as he can afford it, and whatever entertainment he avails himself of. If that's parking it on the couch in front of the boob tube and watching the Simpsons, that's his own care. The key concept is: CHOICE.
@indyrock8148
@indyrock8148 Жыл бұрын
@@selfdo that's precisely the crux of the matter
@Hello-cm8eb
@Hello-cm8eb Жыл бұрын
@@selfdo Yes, he "accepts" the compensation he gets or he complains and gets fired, so now he can't afford anything.
@Hello-cm8eb
@Hello-cm8eb Жыл бұрын
@@selfdo Also, he barely "chooses" what to spend because there is a literal industry (advertising) designed to try to make people buy stuff; why don't they just let the consumers look at all the options carefully instead of just listening to the ad slogans?
@jeffsnider3588
@jeffsnider3588 2 жыл бұрын
I've worked as an Engineer in Manufacturing for over 40 years and was amazed at how much training employees, managers and myself were required to take. Our Politicians need training......reality training......everyone in Congress or the Senate or any other important job should have to spend time with Police, the Fire Dept, working in a Federal Prison and at the Boarder!
@dwarfofthenorth6847
@dwarfofthenorth6847 3 жыл бұрын
Democratic Socialism: Higher taxes and more inefficient government systems, amiright?
@JGizzardofOz
@JGizzardofOz 3 жыл бұрын
Youamright.
@perrywidhalm114
@perrywidhalm114 3 жыл бұрын
You be right ....
@Dimitri9511
@Dimitri9511 3 жыл бұрын
Argentina, Venezuela, Brazil (previously with Lula), Bolivia and now the next on the list Ecuador. Latin America is always the guinea pig for those kind of stuff specially Socialism and Democratic Socialism.
@justdriftingthroughlife9378
@justdriftingthroughlife9378 3 жыл бұрын
Socialism is nothing more than slavery for the people who produce value to forcibly share with the lazy, who produce nothing.
@Dimitri9511
@Dimitri9511 3 жыл бұрын
@@justdriftingthroughlife9378 Basically all those people who still asking for social plans and money for the government even though is made out of their own taxes and specially by the people who are working their asses to make a decent buck.
@sandiasurfers3174
@sandiasurfers3174 3 жыл бұрын
"Democratic Socialism is like your kid's school" Yeah that's a great example of how awful an idea it is...
@DennisMerwood-xk8wp
@DennisMerwood-xk8wp 3 жыл бұрын
Democratic Socialism is like New Zealand. A country with one of the highest standard of living in the world. And everybody is truly free.
@sandiasurfers3174
@sandiasurfers3174 3 жыл бұрын
​@@DennisMerwood-xk8wp I lol and smh when people try to compare apples to oranges, usually its Scandinavian countries but since the video already rebutted that I suppose you thought you'd try a different country? Any person with half a brain and access to google could list 1000 different variables at work making your simplistic comparison completely pointless. You love NZ so much, move there. I love the constitution.
@DennisMerwood-xk8wp
@DennisMerwood-xk8wp 3 жыл бұрын
@@sandiasurfers3174 Sandia, I am a Kiwi. I lived and worked in Seattle for 42-years. Have two daughters in the US. Both doctors. I retired to NZ recently when my wife died. I have three quarters of a brain, and don't think my comparison is pointless at all. Not having lived in New Zealand you don't have the knowledge to compare the two counties like I do. And don't get me started on the American constitution. You don't want to go there my friend. BTW, any person with half a brain surely realizes that the US military is the biggest socialized institution in the world.
@ponir.v7584
@ponir.v7584 3 жыл бұрын
Dictatorial covid lockdowns are not truly free. Have a nice day.
@DennisMerwood-xk8wp
@DennisMerwood-xk8wp 3 жыл бұрын
@@ponir.v7584 Our Dictatorial Lock down in New Zealand has made us truly free my friend. We have ZERO covid cases and are 100% back to normal. How is that "free" thing working out for the UK and the USA? Are they free from Covid? Or even free at all?
@Tina-tz2ud
@Tina-tz2ud Жыл бұрын
No such thing as equality. We can’t even get to fairness at this point
@mart5476
@mart5476 Жыл бұрын
Thank you John, you always show the truth and common sense that America is going through. I have always loved your pieces.
@jacksevert3099
@jacksevert3099 Жыл бұрын
Yup. It's time we defund the Socialist Police Unions!
@MarkH0508
@MarkH0508 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks John for educating the public in a way schools don’t.
@simonnygaardjensen1367
@simonnygaardjensen1367 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the unbiased teaching by John. It would fiy perfectly into the standard education
@peterpan8263
@peterpan8263 3 жыл бұрын
The definition of fascism is corporate run government & that is the opposite of people voting for programs for the people (Democratic socialism)
@djm5687
@djm5687 3 жыл бұрын
@@peterpan8263 Social media censorship violates the 1st Amendment. *Private companies* now decide what political opinions are allowed to be given a "platform". Bank of America gave customer information to the FBI *without a warrant. America is now a fascist country.
@smareng
@smareng 3 жыл бұрын
Can we just clone John for a chain of charter schools?
@georgesprat9697
@georgesprat9697 3 жыл бұрын
It's true. Despite the biases students encounter at school, few would embrace such blatant disinformation and propaganda like Stossel does.
@garymaccagnone3669
@garymaccagnone3669 3 жыл бұрын
Will the celebrities pool their money together and gift it to the people?
@joelellis7035
@joelellis7035 3 жыл бұрын
Better yet, open up their mansions to skid row vagrants. Let them come face to face with the way they're telling us how we should live.
@2009davm
@2009davm 3 жыл бұрын
No the people pool their money and give it to the celebrities
@gkm7943
@gkm7943 3 жыл бұрын
@@joelellis7035 I'm always amazed how the liberals never follow their own words. Ever. I mean, ok I get it if you have different and misguided political and economic views but damn why you expect others to do if you won't do it youselves?? And play the victim and always blame others?
@jett7499
@jett7499 3 жыл бұрын
You know the answer but you made a solid point.
@n9wox
@n9wox 3 жыл бұрын
Hollywood lobbied Gov Newsome and got special carve outs for continuing their industry under Covid while others suffered.
@pa7422
@pa7422 Жыл бұрын
“Exactly what is your fair share of what I have earned” - Thomas Sowell.
@geegeetomlinson2316
@geegeetomlinson2316 Жыл бұрын
That's not at all what democratic socialism is about, idiot. That's Marxism. Stop confusing the two. I live in New Zealand, a country that swings towards giving the Public sector more power than the Private sector (higher taxes, more centralized power and regulation of business - aka democratic socialism.) We are NOT communist - we are socialist. We have a free market, but also have many publicly owned enterprises. I pay for services that feed back into my own life - services that at some point, I am likely to need. Healthcare, schooling and transport primarily - i have zero issue with my tax dollars going towards these initiatives that help others. So yeah, you and John have a fundamental misunderstanding of democratic socialism and you can both go to hell.
@mrsourpickles405BP
@mrsourpickles405BP Жыл бұрын
3 quarters of what you earned because you are a conservative libertarian fascist white supremacist racist nazi. -socialist
@mrsourpickles405BP
@mrsourpickles405BP Жыл бұрын
Everything you own will be OUR(states) fair share for the good, and in the favor of the common people and for all of US the working people(state). - Communism
@miguelmartin2472
@miguelmartin2472 3 жыл бұрын
The fact the guy from Denmark came here to say Denmark isn’t socialist is hilarious
@dogethedoggo8064
@dogethedoggo8064 3 жыл бұрын
Well, it technically isn't, it's a social democracy, which falls under capitalism, but it is a lot closer to socialism than most other countries.
@miguelmartin2472
@miguelmartin2472 3 жыл бұрын
@@dogethedoggo8064 isn’t it a way of national socialism kinda?
@TheMichaelMove
@TheMichaelMove 3 жыл бұрын
John Stossel has only one major flaw.......he’s TOO good. Go John!
@plasma.
@plasma. 3 жыл бұрын
One flaw: not running for president
@frankyflowers
@frankyflowers 3 жыл бұрын
wasn't he a never trumper?
@TheMichaelMove
@TheMichaelMove 3 жыл бұрын
@@frankyflowers some of us had our doubts. We came around.
@TheMichaelMove
@TheMichaelMove 3 жыл бұрын
@@plasma. for sure!
@TheMichaelMove
@TheMichaelMove 3 жыл бұрын
@sabbath maidenfan I do worry
@cvr527
@cvr527 2 жыл бұрын
We are seeing this play out right now in Canada and Australia. In both countries the government is ignoring the law in the name of public safety. The citizens have no rights except for the rights that the government allows.
@Andrew-ep4kw
@Andrew-ep4kw 11 ай бұрын
It is ironic that when people complain about the "evils of capitalism" they are frequently complaining about the few aspects of our system that are actually socialist.
@mikkel2187
@mikkel2187 3 жыл бұрын
You are completely right! I'm from Denmark and I hate when young Americans use my country as an "example of good socialism". They know nothing about our system. As our (now former) Prime Minister said we're not a socialist country. I pay 40% in taxes yes. But I can use the remaining 60% as I want.
@vladintool
@vladintool 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Mikkel!!!
@abhirajarora7631
@abhirajarora7631 3 жыл бұрын
You are the chosen one.
@derkatwork33
@derkatwork33 Жыл бұрын
My only beef is that I don’t want a government that doesn’t know me or care about me to use the first 40% for what will very likely be something I disagree with.
@dbio305
@dbio305 Жыл бұрын
@@derkatwork33 valid beef
@salazam
@salazam Жыл бұрын
@@derkatwork33 Wasn't our country (USA) founded on "No taxation without representation"?
@ccubsfan94
@ccubsfan94 3 жыл бұрын
Idk how anyone can sit in a DMV and think we need more of this
@hyperreal
@hyperreal 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine having your phone built by the DMV instead of Apple... or getting healthcare from the DMV. Or education..
@Jaymo00
@Jaymo00 3 жыл бұрын
@shid The DMV is run by the federal government. Its just a metaphor
@vivy45
@vivy45 Жыл бұрын
These are great! Keep producing this content. I want to use it in the classroom.
@annebailey4599
@annebailey4599 Жыл бұрын
I adore John Stossell, but lost him so long ago. Happy to find you again!
@Nemesis0921
@Nemesis0921 3 жыл бұрын
Putting the word " Democratic" in front of anything doesn't make it good
@robedmund9948
@robedmund9948 3 жыл бұрын
Including the word voter.
@roostertn
@roostertn 3 жыл бұрын
@@robedmund9948 especially..
@eventhisidistaken
@eventhisidistaken 3 жыл бұрын
Political democracy, is nothing more than tyranny imposed by 50%+1. Anything less than 100% voluntary action, is as unethical as a dictatorship. In practice though, republics tend to be less miserable, but political democracy is still fundamentally evil, not fundamentally good.
@bessermt
@bessermt 3 жыл бұрын
@@eventhisidistaken So you're anti-democratic then. Okay.
@eventhisidistaken
@eventhisidistaken 3 жыл бұрын
@@bessermt I'm anti-preemptive-force, so that includes political democracy. You're oversimplifying in a purposefully stupid way.
@hephaestus6365
@hephaestus6365 3 жыл бұрын
This is common sense for people who were taught history rather than transgender pride.
@noyou5120
@noyou5120 3 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@izdatbOi
@izdatbOi 3 жыл бұрын
"transgender pride" lmao
@cmlee58
@cmlee58 3 жыл бұрын
And, this is common sense for people who actually suffered under a hellish socialism country like me.
@izdatbOi
@izdatbOi 3 жыл бұрын
@@cmlee58 fr
@cmlee58
@cmlee58 3 жыл бұрын
@@izdatbOi ???
@andrewcarter2331
@andrewcarter2331 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love these. Ive seen them like 10 times ill watch it again to remind myself. So glad my highschool econ teacher showed me this. Cash for clunkers was my first! Panhandle episode was my second!!
@ronjon7942
@ronjon7942 Жыл бұрын
1:30 “Democratic socialism is your kids’ public school.” Said w such sincerity, it’s terrifying. Suddenly I’m not so unhappy about not having children, instead sticking with Irish Setters and Goldens. I could see home schooling as a viable alternative, as difficult as it must be for parents.
@uberraschtedame1510
@uberraschtedame1510 3 жыл бұрын
"Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude." -Alexis de Tocqueville
@JamesMaximum
@JamesMaximum Жыл бұрын
Intelligent man.
@oooshafiqooo4722
@oooshafiqooo4722 Жыл бұрын
fax
@geegeetomlinson2316
@geegeetomlinson2316 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, just simply untrue - Germany, Sweden, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, and many more, are all democratic socialist countries. Here in NZ, we swing back and forth along the power that government has, but overall the government tends to have more power than the private sector. That quote is just simply totally untrue. I love it here, and I pity the blind ignorant americans that have been completely indocrinated by the propaganda they learned in school.
@JamesMaximum
@JamesMaximum Жыл бұрын
@@geegeetomlinson2316In your comment you make this argument that nations like Germany, Sweden, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada are democratic socialist nations. This is inaccurate as even though the current leader could enact socialist leaning policies, it doesn't mean that the overall nation is socialist. Another reason as to why you're really wrong here is that these countries that you list are practically successful because of the markets. Sweden for example has a low corporate tax rate and creates wealth via markets.
@kimobrien.
@kimobrien. Жыл бұрын
@@JamesMaximum When you abolish private property then you've gone down the socialist road other wise you've just won a reform from the capitalist bosses. Private Property is the property used to exploit others rather than out right slavery the bosses become the owners of everything giving orders based upon maximizing profits for themselves. The profits come from the unpaid labor of the production workers. Its this privatization of the socially produced surplus that has such contradictory implications for production itself. Capitalism is the first system to suffer from crisis of overproduction. It also creates greedy ruling classes based in nation states who take the fight for profits onto the battlefield of world war. Markets create nothing other than to provide a place for exchange and state to arbitrate disputes among those who exchange either labor or commodities. The workers exchange their labor for a wage that must pay the cost to reproduce it for the next pay period while the bosses seek the longest hours and to pay he lowest wages such that the can sell the commodities produced for a profit. By replacing individual labor with machines and social labor the capitalist have enable a vastly superior way to produce over all past methods. All the old handicraft methods were put on trial by the cost of labor the wiiners were the loom, the steam engine and the modern factory methods.
@nowdefunctchannel6874
@nowdefunctchannel6874 3 жыл бұрын
"Democratic socialism is your kids' public school" Being homeschooled doesn't seem so bad now does it?
@MilwaukeeF40C
@MilwaukeeF40C 3 жыл бұрын
Being in the auction in Taken doesn't seem so bad.
@oneone164
@oneone164 3 жыл бұрын
@@MilwaukeeF40C how much for you....
@erickolb8581
@erickolb8581 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I was homeschooled otherwise I'd have a higher chance of eating out of the dog shit bag that is "socialism." If it's so great, why did they build walls around it and people died trying to escape??! Their blusters are so XDXDXD
@getchasome6230
@getchasome6230 2 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what they want. They want you to take your conservative kids and stop bothering them so they can take over.
@Great_Wall_of_Text
@Great_Wall_of_Text 2 жыл бұрын
So, uh, I'm a licensed educator. I have a degree in secondary language arts (high school English). I heartily disagree with the original post. Home School never looked bad. Five years in college for education and three years in public schools as a teacher convinced me to home school my kids from day one. My daughter is starting seventh grade, and my son is going into second. Home schooling all the way. No regrets, and no plans to change. This year for physical education my daughter is learning how to shoot...better. She's been doing that in gym class since she was big enough to pull a trigger. She has no idea how to play volleyball though, or give control of her life to the government. Oops, I knew I forgot something in the curriculum.
@anthonydecarvalho652
@anthonydecarvalho652 Жыл бұрын
Your correct. The problem is not only do so many young people don't really understand, they don't want to learn the truth. They have been successful propagandize.
@haliteblade62241
@haliteblade62241 8 ай бұрын
This needs to be shown in schools.
@johnschimcat758
@johnschimcat758 3 жыл бұрын
Stossel is one of the few people I still have respect for in media. I might not agree with him all the time, but he is honest and actually does journalism, which is unheard of these days .
@srmatte1
@srmatte1 3 жыл бұрын
Your first sentence comes off all wrong
@johnschimcat758
@johnschimcat758 3 жыл бұрын
@@srmatte1 that should solve any confusion
@dhyanesh5968
@dhyanesh5968 3 жыл бұрын
He is the only person I know who doesn't try to be politically correct in the field of journalism Respect to this Noble Man from India, A socialist country
@ammarhasan8466
@ammarhasan8466 3 жыл бұрын
He does Journalism by drawing parallels between socialism, which is an economic system and fascism, which is a social system LOL. He perpetually misguides people.
@ammarhasan8466
@ammarhasan8466 3 жыл бұрын
@@dhyanesh5968 India is a socialist country? Are means of Production of capital goods owned by the government or society? I guess not.
@rev.stephena.cakouros948
@rev.stephena.cakouros948 3 жыл бұрын
"Socialism is the same as Communism only better English." [George Bernard Shaw]
@bono894
@bono894 3 жыл бұрын
Nope. Socialism is simply organized society. Communism is a scam posing as socialism dreamed up by an alien tribe to enslave nations. They intentionally confuse the two because they know communism has gotten a bad name. This ensures that we will abhor the idea of collectivizing or working towards a common good.
@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234
@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234 3 жыл бұрын
Socialism is just what modern communists call communism...
@bono894
@bono894 3 жыл бұрын
@@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234 The Dichotomy between communism and capitalism is as phony as the feud between Fox News and CNN or Democrats and Republicans. The terms have been confused because both sides are controlled by the same people. No matter which one we choose they win and we lose.
@bono894
@bono894 3 жыл бұрын
@Adam Lee You are so close in your analysis but you are missing a critical factor.
@bono894
@bono894 3 жыл бұрын
@Adam Lee Capitalism is designed to create hostility in the masses and incite communist insurrection. Marx didn't actually hate capitalism. He saw it as a tool to achieve his communist utopia. Actually, Marx didn't care about communism or capitalism. He only saw them as tools. Phony ideologies whose purpose was to enslave all of humanity to his tribe.
@brfan6750
@brfan6750 Жыл бұрын
Another great video John. Please keep spreading the word. Thanks!
@geegeetomlinson2316
@geegeetomlinson2316 Жыл бұрын
Except he's completely wrong I live in New Zealand, a country that swings towards giving the Public sector more power than the Private sector (higher taxes, more centralized power and regulation of business - aka democratic socialism.) and I can inform you with great pride that I absolutely love living here, and the horror stories i hear of american healthcare and the rampant violence problems give me zero inclination to move to a capitalist country. We have a free market - that's quite enough capitalism for me. I like my public sector right where it is, thank you.
@brendanflynn5004
@brendanflynn5004 Жыл бұрын
I can honestly say I do not understand how anyone can believe Socialism would work unless they have no real world experience & understanding of human nature. It’s truly mind-boggling to me..
@UlulvarCape
@UlulvarCape 3 жыл бұрын
I think its funny that many on the left say "stop calling us socialists! Were not even socialists!" But then point to Scandinavia as an example of being socialist
@Nathan-jh1ho
@Nathan-jh1ho 3 жыл бұрын
"It's ridiculous people on the right call us socialist when we just want socialized healthcare, massive wealthfare state and more government control over the economy" "The post office is socialism being tried in America"
@InitialPC
@InitialPC 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nathan-jh1ho ah yes, we should have the post office be in charge of our healthcare, whoever suggested that must be a genius! HAHA
@eventhisidistaken
@eventhisidistaken 3 жыл бұрын
Good point.
@19775021
@19775021 3 жыл бұрын
Go to Florida and ask people from Cuba what socialism is.
@vyl1078
@vyl1078 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@jett7499
@jett7499 3 жыл бұрын
Correct, I have been to Cuba and have been in China as well. I have seen the way they live, what they have, what they don't have and the level of un-content. You don't see people fleeing to either country for a reason. Wake up basement kids. Go get a job.
@joesmith701
@joesmith701 3 жыл бұрын
@@jett7499 the problem isn't always they don't have jobs ect many of the Socialist pushers came from decent income families. It's their lack of thinking how the system they think would be utopian will end like many other Socialism trials where the Socialist State oppresses the people when it starts to show it doesn't work.
@sklanguage589
@sklanguage589 3 жыл бұрын
Are they Democrats, though?
@chuckwilliams3003
@chuckwilliams3003 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes, but not always. Most are like a Marco Rubio.
@buddyjenkins7188
@buddyjenkins7188 Жыл бұрын
Berni always says he wants socialism like Denmark and Sweden, but his policies are those of Venezuela.
@johnbabik9600
@johnbabik9600 Ай бұрын
These videos are so useful, especially for the current times. Thanks!
@averagejoe9249
@averagejoe9249 3 жыл бұрын
We're experiencing socialism here in the US now. And it's going to get worse
@Nathan-jh1ho
@Nathan-jh1ho 3 жыл бұрын
We're experiencing "New age socialism with Chinese characteristics" where large corporations work with government to help each other stay in power / maintain monopoly
@jett7499
@jett7499 3 жыл бұрын
Not if we can help it. I would think Congress for the incumbent Democrats is not as safe as they may presume. I think many of them realize this or else they would not have placed barbed wire around it. They know their tyrants.
@grawr3534
@grawr3534 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nathan-jh1ho Isn't that facism?
@Nathan-jh1ho
@Nathan-jh1ho 3 жыл бұрын
@@grawr3534 pretty much, calling it fascism with Chinese characters would make as much scene. They just like running around spewing Marxist nonsense, while not knowing and practicing what they're saying.
@georgesprat9697
@georgesprat9697 3 жыл бұрын
This takes the cake for stupidest comment I've seen today.
@aleksander8497
@aleksander8497 3 жыл бұрын
"They protest in Nikes, and tweet about it from their iPhones." They complain with full bellies and easy access to grocery stores filled with food.
@tomevans4402
@tomevans4402 3 жыл бұрын
Yep
@Dennis-nc3vw
@Dennis-nc3vw 3 жыл бұрын
According to Bernie Sanders Walmart pays "starvation wages", even though you can buy four loafs of bread with an hour of minimum wage labor.
@aleksander8497
@aleksander8497 3 жыл бұрын
Bernie "bread lines are a good thing" has never had to be in one.
@Zhicano
@Zhicano 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dennis-nc3vw what kind of argument was that. After paying the costs to maintain a roof over your head, a car, insurance and all that you’re literally left with a starvation wage. Your wages shouldn’t just be meant to cover the cost of merely existing.
@nicwelch
@nicwelch 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zhicano And they aren’t meant to. If you’re making minimum wage and older than say 25 then you have made some really bad life choices and shouldn’t be able to force your employer to pay you more. What if you’re not worth more an hour?
@benadams3569
@benadams3569 Жыл бұрын
I've already commented something similar on a Stossel video, but here we go again. The reason I respect him as a journalist is because is still a journalist and doesn't have an agenda. He's worked for ABC and FOX News, and still isn't afraid to call out bull shit when he sees it, no matter which type of bull shit it is.
@CullerCommentary
@CullerCommentary 2 жыл бұрын
The irony of Sarandon reminding us of what system has failed our schools.
@clearsky4042
@clearsky4042 3 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing John stossel videos in school a long time ago. Thank you for being a true patriot
@BakoSooner
@BakoSooner 3 жыл бұрын
More kids need to tune out their social media accounts and pay attention to these messages. Otherwise, the kids will ruin their own future.
@dole8001
@dole8001 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly it is not just kids but adults that believe the same like Bernie.
@BakoSooner
@BakoSooner 3 жыл бұрын
@@dole8001 Are those adults product of failed higher education with useless degrees and mountain of debt? Or, adults that made poor decisions all throughout their lives and blames everyone else for their failures? Or, adults that are naïve utopians? Or, adults with ulterior motive wanting the ultimate power over people? I know some of these 'adults'.
@Josue.e
@Josue.e 3 жыл бұрын
They shouldn't tune out of social media but instead explore more rather then only seeing what they have already seen
@BakoSooner
@BakoSooner 3 жыл бұрын
@@StosselTV That's true. But, kids are taught by social media instead of conducting their own research. Social media algorithm continues to cater to the end user's interest which could prevent them from forming their own opinions. Are there anymore free thinkers?
@juniorvonclaire3576
@juniorvonclaire3576 3 жыл бұрын
@@StosselTV Ty for videos. Explaining the arguments for capitalism is also very important, and you’ve done this, too. The Sandy Springs and Tragedy of the Commons were so important. Please consider looking into something that I discovered around age 40, which no one seems to know: Robin Hood was basically in law enforcement. He stopped thieves and returned stolen property. The original movie with Errol Flynn presented this clearly.
@joshgellis3292
@joshgellis3292 Жыл бұрын
I very clearly remember when John Stossel was "merely" a 20/20 correspondent. He was EPIC, smart and admirable as a plain, SIMPLE man in the 90s- I was between six to sixteen during the 90s. STOSSEL is STILL EPIC, smart and admirable as a plain, SIMPLE man! KEEP FUCKING BEING *_*YOU_** , STOSSEL!
@rchandraonline
@rchandraonline Жыл бұрын
"It's hard to exercise political freedom if you don't have economic freedoms. If you're dependent upon the state for your livelihood, you lose your ability to use your voice to oppose them because you can be punished." Very true. For someone on social programs/welfare, it is not fundamentally in their interest to change that. If the state takes care of your needs economically, why would you have any reason to oppose that? It was a harsh thing to say, but talk show host Michael Savage somewhat famously proposed that if you accept public assistance, you should lose your right to vote. Otherwise, the people who sustain your assistance keep getting voted in and possibly increasing your dependence on the state. I've thought for a while now that at its core, public assistance is just state-mandated (forced) charity. I have to wonder if we'd be better off reverting charity solely to the private sector. Yes, all sorts of people need all sorts of help, either chronically or from time to time, but should it be the role of the state to try to fix that?
@joelmclean2898
@joelmclean2898 Жыл бұрын
The one socialist young lady said "Resources should be allocated to those who need it." "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need". It is an idea that says if you are capable and a hard worker, you will be punished to give the rewards of your efforts to those that present a need.
@KevinFitzMauriceEverett
@KevinFitzMauriceEverett 3 жыл бұрын
“Tell me about any country or nation, past or present, that does not have elites running it who have more rights, power, property, benefits, wealth, and services than the common people. Therefore, the right question is under which system have the common people enjoyed the greatest prosperity since all systems have the same elites at the top who profess different slogans to exploit the common people.” -Kevin Everett FitzMaurice
@ElijahRedd1
@ElijahRedd1 3 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic. I've had thoughts along these lines, but never so clearly and concisely expressed. I will have to use this next time I'm debating with a good friend of mine who is very left leaning. Thank you for sharing good sir.
@KevinFitzMauriceEverett
@KevinFitzMauriceEverett 3 жыл бұрын
@@ElijahRedd1 Thank you for your kind words. Feel free to share the quotation wherever you want and to share the ideas with whomever you like. Peace
@georgesprat9697
@georgesprat9697 3 жыл бұрын
"When no source has quite said what you want to express, the only choice left is to quote oneself." -Georges Prat
@DonVigaDeFierro
@DonVigaDeFierro 3 жыл бұрын
You're 100% on point. The more we try to stay away from Feudalism, the most likely we will stumble upon it again.
@KevinFitzMauriceEverett
@KevinFitzMauriceEverett 3 жыл бұрын
@@DonVigaDeFierro Yes, and yours is a brilliant observation. You will love this quotation. Feel free to use it. “I believe it safe to say that all progress must lead, not to further progress, but finally to the negation of progress, a return to the point of departure.” -Eugène Delacroix
@bankerduck4925
@bankerduck4925 3 жыл бұрын
Thou hath blessed us with thy grace with a new upload.
@_barncat
@_barncat 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@JGizzardofOz
@JGizzardofOz 3 жыл бұрын
Thou hast yoted weak yeet, and thereof committed false yeethery. Thou canst only be blessed by Him who hath yote the universe. Thou single hope lies in the kind loving grace of the one true God. Yeet on young man and do not ye yeet recieveth.
@bankerduck4925
@bankerduck4925 3 жыл бұрын
@@JGizzardofOz Understood.
@dedasalmeida9047
@dedasalmeida9047 3 жыл бұрын
Amen brother 🙏
@JGizzardofOz
@JGizzardofOz 3 жыл бұрын
@@bankerduck4925 😂 how? See! You are blessed with the gift of wisdom! I don't know what I was talking about 🤣 Except the God part. It's true.
@tmclaug90
@tmclaug90 Жыл бұрын
No dictator ever gathered their following with a platform of "I'm going to make things worse for everyone" lol.
@nickalvarez3635
@nickalvarez3635 2 жыл бұрын
Stossel has some clear concise videos that deliver the facts in a easily digestable format. These should be shown in schools.
@jbkibs
@jbkibs 3 жыл бұрын
"resources should be allocated to those who need them." who gets to allocate those resources? therein lies the problem...
@joelellis7035
@joelellis7035 3 жыл бұрын
Who determines the need. Exactly. We saw that with Obama and talking about Grandma's pacemaker.
@brett4711
@brett4711 3 жыл бұрын
Precisely. Same as the noble idea of feeding the world's hungry - making the food isn't the problem, it is getting it to the people that need it most.
@ollikoskiniemi6221
@ollikoskiniemi6221 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. They say "each according to their needs and abilities" when talking about socialism, but WHO gets to decide what are other peoples needs and abilitites? The government perhaps, that is already tyrannical now.
@TXKafir
@TXKafir 3 жыл бұрын
"From each according to his ability. To each according to his need." This sounds like a great philosophy. The problem is that in order to make those determinations, you must have intimate knowledge of the abilities and needs of each. That can only be had in a family or a very small group. Once you get above that number, it becomes "From each according to _what_ _the_ _committee_ _has_ _determined_ _is_ his ability. To each according to _what_ _the_ _committee_ _has_ _determined_ _is_ his need."
@jetskiwillywilly7970
@jetskiwillywilly7970 3 жыл бұрын
and who decided who "needs" it more?
@giorgiocooper9023
@giorgiocooper9023 3 жыл бұрын
“Democratic socialism” = the oxymoron of the century !
@UGMD
@UGMD 3 жыл бұрын
Ok I’ll bite. I know the video chad said that democratically voted socialists kill democracy but that doesn’t immediately make it an oxymoron. Socialism simplified is the government producing certain services and democracy simplified is people voting for representatives to do things in the government. Nothing there portrays them as an oxymoron.
@Jarvis_923
@Jarvis_923 3 жыл бұрын
Remove the oxy.
@Simboiss
@Simboiss 3 жыл бұрын
It's the opposite. Socialism is always democratic by definition. You don't have to specify that it's democratic. No democracy means no socialism. No buts, no ifs.
@mikewilliams6025
@mikewilliams6025 3 жыл бұрын
@@UGMD This is fundamentally wrong. Socialism is not government services. The fact that this gets conflated by both liberals and conservatives is completely confounding to me. The basic tenet of socialism is that workers control the means of production. It is an economic ideology, not a political one. Government spending is a separate, although adjacent issue. The question is, who controls manufacturing, production, entertainment, etc? Socialism says it's all workers equally. That's the goal of socialism. But no one has come up with a mechanism for how this would sustain itself. So inevitably in all socialist structures, the government takes over the position of controlling production, thus eliminating any checks and balances. As is stated in the video: once democratically elected, the people have less and less leverage to unelect socialist leaders, until they have none at all.
@UGMD
@UGMD 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikewilliams6025 I know socialism from Bernie Sanders and the things I see him pushing are increased government services to support working people. His means to the “socialism” end are probably clouding my definition.
@dogdayafternoon9551
@dogdayafternoon9551 2 жыл бұрын
I am an American living in China. The reason China is so rich now is because they implemented capitalism. There are very little socialist or communist qualities in this country today.
@standardgigachad3297
@standardgigachad3297 Жыл бұрын
"He who would trade his liberty for security shall have neither and deserves niether." Ben Franklin
@thejunkmanlives
@thejunkmanlives 3 жыл бұрын
stossel's out here fighting the good fight. i wish people could be won over with reason but every time i look around i become more convinced that things wont work as nicely.
@Lord_Volkner
@Lord_Volkner 2 жыл бұрын
"No rational argument will have a rational effect on a man who does not want to adopt a rational attitude." -Karl Popper
@tovarisch3039
@tovarisch3039 3 жыл бұрын
Yuri Bezmenov: you can show them all the proof in the world, even take them to a gulag in Russia and they still wont believe you.
@aleksejjovanovic986
@aleksejjovanovic986 Жыл бұрын
True, only way they will learn is the hard way. If west becomes socialist i am moving to Russia, they at least know what socialism means and won`t fall for that crap anytime soon.
@seanwickham8905
@seanwickham8905 Жыл бұрын
@@aleksejjovanovic986 Hopefully you're not of fighting age.
@aleksejjovanovic986
@aleksejjovanovic986 Жыл бұрын
@@seanwickham8905 I am and it has crossed my mind if you want to know.
@aleksejjovanovic986
@aleksejjovanovic986 Жыл бұрын
@Rabbi Eladio Imenezshtien Not only Christians but also Slavic pagans (Rodnovery), Buddhists and Muslims. For reds we are all trash that has to get neutrilized.
@johnpruett5258
@johnpruett5258 Жыл бұрын
Just like showing people real, true facts about covid and vaccines, they don't want to hear it.
@davedawe2420
@davedawe2420 Жыл бұрын
The danger we face is that we cannot change the fact these people are brainwashed. I do accept, however, that greed and corruption are equally present in the capitalist system, and government has the right to intervene when it becomes clear the good of the public is being negatively affected.
@ML-rd6ci
@ML-rd6ci Жыл бұрын
Spot on, it's a great video. Thank you for the video.
@perrywidhalm114
@perrywidhalm114 3 жыл бұрын
Rule #1: Don't Hurt People. Rule #2: Don't Steal Their Stuff
@ledzeppelin1212
@ledzeppelin1212 3 жыл бұрын
Basically, the constitution should just be the Ten Commandments.
@DennisMerwood-xk8wp
@DennisMerwood-xk8wp 3 жыл бұрын
@@ledzeppelin1212 And then the US would be in even a bigger mess than it is now!
@aidenaune7008
@aidenaune7008 3 жыл бұрын
@@DennisMerwood-xk8wp you do realize that every single western country's legal system is based on the ten commandments, right?
@eventhisidistaken
@eventhisidistaken 3 жыл бұрын
Rule #3, ignore rules 1 and 2 and call it 'government'. Then brainwash the masses that rules 1 and 2 only apply to them.
@eventhisidistaken
@eventhisidistaken 3 жыл бұрын
@@aidenaune7008 They really are not. Only 3 of the commandments make any sense at all to encode to into a legal system. Where are the laws against coveting in western legal systems? What about having no other gods, where's that one? Even adultery is not generally illegal in western nations. In some places, you might be open to civil suits for it, and it may play a role in divorces, but that's it.
@dh510
@dh510 3 жыл бұрын
I recently came across a very interesting book, called 'Socialism: The Failed Idea That Never Dies', written by Kristian Niemietz. He meticulously dissects many attempted implementations of socialism, how and why they failed and what the outcome was. He also dedicates many pages to the methods socialists use to spin the narrative and shift the blame away from their bogus ideology, once the s**t hits the fan. It's an easy, yet inspiring read that contains a myriad of arguments, which might be suited to rhetorically arm everyone watching you.
@Hunterchuck
@Hunterchuck 3 жыл бұрын
That's a cool story. Now you should read Karl Marx's "Capital" and understand what socialism is really about. Because if you knew what socialism really is, then you would understand that socialism hasn't failed at all and exists right in the heart of America through the many worker cooperatives that have existed for years. Maybe you've been getting spoon fed a narrative all along and have missed the facts. 🤷‍♂️
@dh510
@dh510 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hunterchuck Wow, I didn't know people as challenged as you are allowed to roam free. But I've got to admit, 'Everything is socialism!" is something new, 'Real socialism has never been tried!' was getting old anyway. Let me make it clear: Unions and interest groups aren't socialism, taxes aren't socialism and welfare and caring for people in need isn't Socialism as well. Heck, even state organized health insurance isn't socialism, as long as it's implementation is reasonable. What is socialism is: Stealing everything from the people with merit and consuming it until nothing is left, crippling the economy with dumb policies and enslaving the people, leading to 100'000'000+ dead, many more poor or starving and ruined Nations, such as the former USSR, Mao's China, Cuba, North Korea, East Germany, Venezuela, California etc. Marx outlined interesting ideas in 'Das Kapital', he even had a pretty good grasp on the capitalism of the 19th century, but his conclusions were just plain bullshit, today more than ever. He might have had somewhat of a point in 1867, when all workers were unskilled and had to slave away in a factory for 12+ hours a day. Nowadays, this has been made obsolete by automation and it has become clear, that all the means of production are worthless without educated people operating them. People with merit have total freedom to negotiate their pay on the free market, even more so since the information age has enabled everyone to acquire any information basically for free. Capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than any other economical system than ever before. A poor person today lives better than the upper middle class 100 years ago. That's because it functions similar to evolution: Free markets reward productive and efficient ideas and punish those that aren't. If your plans in life don't work out or seem too hard to achieve, live with it or try something else. YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO WHAT OTHER PEOPLE EARNED FOR THEMSELVES!
@lollinski614
@lollinski614 2 жыл бұрын
@@dh510 That 100 million number has been proven false times and times again. Even 2 of the 3 writers talked about how the 3rd person litterally counted people who weren't born, nazi soldiers, civil wars, 2nd world war, or just millions added here and there. Also capitalism is not a meritocracy, if your family has connections, money, power, it is infinitely easier to get a job, create a business, ... And if you keep this going you will see richer people getting richer as they already have money to start something and poor people get poorer. If capitalism rewards efficency and innovation, why most of the technology you use today has been created by governments(gps, satellites, computers, internet, ...) businesses take what has already been created and spin it around to call it a product. A tendency of capitalism as it is a competitive system, creates winners and losers, the losers go bankrupt and the winners take the market. I know that monopolies are impossible as they need external help, but a lot of companies have monopolistic powers even without being an actual monopoly (buying competitors, merging, and cartels to ensure no competition between companies). People most often than not, have no say on their pay, work hours or they will one way or another get replaced, this is also why unemployment is good to capitalist, more people are desperate for a job, more likely they will accept no matter the cost. Capitalism hasn't made any particular nation richer, why you always look at good capitalist exemples and bad socialist exemples and not the other way around? Can you explain to me why Ethiopia, South Africa, Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Burkina Faso, Chad, Pakistan, Indonesia, ... aren't doing well? It's actually socialist reforms that made these countries at the very least less miserable. Look at Thomas Sankara in Burkina Faso, Allende in chile, Mossadegh in Iran, Castro in Cuba, and others how they improved materially the life of countless people. I hope you can at least reconsider what you are saying
@pollypurree1834
@pollypurree1834 Жыл бұрын
@@Hunterchuck Marx's ideas didn't work at all in the USSR. Why do you think that the USSR was overthrown in 1991 by a revolution and replaced with the capitalist democracy of Russia??? Socialism has NEVER worked throughout human history. The pilgrims tried it and it failed. It was tried in the 16th century British colony of Jamestown in what's now Virginia. It failed. People are not equal. You are not equal to Elon Musk, for example, who has much more drive and ambition. You are not equal to Trump, Gates, Buffett, etc for the exact same reason. People with ambition are not satisfied with handouts, sponging off the system and living off the system like a 2 year old dependent child. That's why socialism inevitably fails
@Hunterchuck
@Hunterchuck Жыл бұрын
@@pollypurree1834 What on earth did I just read? LMAO! "The USSR was overthrown in 1991" - No, it was dissolved by Gorbachev to destabilize Communist control of the government. This led to the collapse of the Soviet Union, at least in name since the country did not change at all. Not even the Soviet revolution changed anything about the country other than what they started calling themselves, but the economic system remained in control of the government. This is called a command economy in economics. "Socialism has NEVER worked throughout human history." - Wrong again even by your own definition of socialism. North Korea, China, and many other so-called communist/socialist nations are still in existence with the same USSR formula. If we use Karl Marx's definition of socialism then it can be seen in the thousands of worker cooperatives around the world. So essentially you are just wrong on all accounts. Better luck next time I guess
@londomolari5715
@londomolari5715 8 ай бұрын
One man; one vote; one time.
@Kodakgee
@Kodakgee 2 жыл бұрын
"It's hard to exercise political freedom if you don't have economic freedoms. If you're dependent on the state for your livelihood, you lose your ability to use your voice to oppose them because you can be punished."
@AlonzoTheArmless
@AlonzoTheArmless 3 жыл бұрын
5:04 "In the last 20 years, we've seen more humans escape extreme poverty than any other time in human history, and that's because of markets." Amen. I wish THIS was taught in schools.
@baldeagle5297
@baldeagle5297 Жыл бұрын
@shid I know this is an old post, but have you lost your mind. China REPORTS 0% poverty. Venezuela can't feed its people. Most long-term homeless Americans CHOOSE that lifestyle, the rest suffer from various mental illnesses and will not accept the help they need. In America, you can buy a house away from the large cities for a reasonable amount. I bought two on a less-than-average wage.
@baldeagle5297
@baldeagle5297 Жыл бұрын
@shid I choose not to believe in communist propaganda. Unlike you, apparently.
@JGizzardofOz
@JGizzardofOz 3 жыл бұрын
If you dislike Stossel, you are rejecting reality. That's on you. I'm a kulak.
@JGizzardofOz
@JGizzardofOz 3 жыл бұрын
@Jefe Anson not one person can explain it to the ones who are deluded with the propaganda. They're absolutely religiously committed regardless of easy to explain facts. No one.
@benjamink2398
@benjamink2398 3 жыл бұрын
@Jefe Anson Alright, then you give a stab at the definition. I'm a political philosopher btw; there is a right answer here. Have a go.
@JGizzardofOz
@JGizzardofOz 3 жыл бұрын
@Jefe Anson they should chant before attacking.. wait, oops.
@sorzin2289
@sorzin2289 3 жыл бұрын
So what do you grow?
@georgesprat9697
@georgesprat9697 3 жыл бұрын
You're not much of a logician, are you? You see, there's other logically consistent options. You could agree with Stossel (which, according to what you're implying, means you're in touch with reality) but still dislike him, for example.
@pattyriveraNewHomes
@pattyriveraNewHomes Жыл бұрын
Fantastic job John. Finally a glimpse of the truth 👏🏻👏🏻
@randylahey8207
@randylahey8207 Жыл бұрын
"Democratic socialism is your kids' public schools." Did she think that would be a convincing argument? 😂
@raeannaroylance5401
@raeannaroylance5401 3 жыл бұрын
“Allocating resources to people who need them”-well, start sharing YOUR resources with them! Be the example!
@thehypnoticdog6682
@thehypnoticdog6682 3 жыл бұрын
Not a chance!
@thingfish000
@thingfish000 3 жыл бұрын
She is paraphrasing Marx. "To each according to need, from each according to need".
@arcturus4762
@arcturus4762 3 жыл бұрын
That’s what a lot of people don’t get. No reasonable human will pay so that a mentally unstable teen chops his dick off, or so that universities keep spewing out idiots with degrees in gender studies
@raeannaroylance5401
@raeannaroylance5401 3 жыл бұрын
@@thingfish000 yes, and who gets to determine what is a “need”🤔
@Simboiss
@Simboiss 3 жыл бұрын
Take any billionnaire and ask them to share.
@mikefabbi5127
@mikefabbi5127 3 жыл бұрын
"If government was in charge of the Sahara Desert there would be a shortage of sand". Thomas Sowell
@tabanjoman24
@tabanjoman24 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for pointing to the truth!
@theOlLineRebel
@theOlLineRebel Жыл бұрын
Exactly - there is no such thing as "economic freedom" VERSUS "social freedom". One cannot exist without the other - ALL freedom, or nothing.
@adamm2716
@adamm2716 3 жыл бұрын
poor syrian interviewed in sweden: "my phone is now a smart phone but nothing else changed for me"
@dallyh.2960
@dallyh.2960 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to watch/read that interview if you've got a link.
@monke6774
@monke6774 3 жыл бұрын
Source?
@ignatiusq.snerdiiesq.7007
@ignatiusq.snerdiiesq.7007 3 жыл бұрын
Chavez and Moderno are the living embodiment of Lord Acton's quote, "power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely".
@mikeorclem
@mikeorclem Жыл бұрын
thanks john....you are up with tom sowell and walter williams...simple.truth.
@buttjuice858
@buttjuice858 Жыл бұрын
I escaped from a Communist country to the USA. Grew up, joined the military, then had to witness the Iron Curtain in the late 80's and traveled through 3 Eastern bloc countries. Seeing those efficient Trabants. Oh, boy.
@MNDrummer
@MNDrummer 3 жыл бұрын
These videos should be played in the public schools and colleges as mandatory learning.
@kabar7929
@kabar7929 3 жыл бұрын
That’s something an authoritarian socialist country would do. Just let them grow out of it on their own.
@jesusistheonlygodamen3406
@jesusistheonlygodamen3406 3 жыл бұрын
Marxist: "the Nazi's were evil!" Me: "don't you mean the National SOCIALISTS?"
@JohnSmith-wx9wj
@JohnSmith-wx9wj 3 жыл бұрын
Hegel's children.
@JohnSmith-wx9wj
@JohnSmith-wx9wj 3 жыл бұрын
@@Echo5427_ Do you have a point?
@JohnSmith-wx9wj
@JohnSmith-wx9wj 3 жыл бұрын
@@Echo5427_ First thing the Soviets did after WWII was slaughter socialists after broadcasted show trials and use Nazi collaborators to form their puppet governments. Do you really believe the persecution of rivals is significantly meaningful?
@JohnSmith-wx9wj
@JohnSmith-wx9wj 3 жыл бұрын
@@Echo5427_ Makes sense to me. How does hating communism make you not a socialist?
@JohnSmith-wx9wj
@JohnSmith-wx9wj 3 жыл бұрын
@@Echo5427_ lol
@Direwolf13PS3
@Direwolf13PS3 2 жыл бұрын
The greatest myth of the century is that socalism is the counter to fascism, its akin to two wolves standing next to each other, except one has a dog mask on.
@mikeemaus8913
@mikeemaus8913 Жыл бұрын
"You can vote your way into DS, but you Must SHOOT your way out."
@sukmidri
@sukmidri 3 жыл бұрын
The best part about these videos is coming to read the comment section. I really enjoy the people defending socialism/etc.
@Diego-fd3we
@Diego-fd3we 2 жыл бұрын
It’s because they been proven wrong and like this video speak so much facts there pressed like literally Bernie sanders the man who started socialist democracy had the prime minister of Denmark say that Denmark Sweden and the rest of Scandinavia was far from socialist and that they were a free market economy based on capitalism Bernie must have cried his eyes out when he saw that happen😂
@buckeyepilot3929
@buckeyepilot3929 3 жыл бұрын
I can't help but notice that CHAZ was "Democratic Socialism." How'd that fuckin' work out?
@pumpedpixel
@pumpedpixel 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexpeer2 go cry somewhere else you socialist, your literally on every comment in this video lol
@buckeyepilot3929
@buckeyepilot3929 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexpeer2 If you can't compete with the big boys, just say so.
@buckeyepilot3929
@buckeyepilot3929 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexpeer2 AMERICA!!! Love it, or get the fcuk out.
@ChucksSEADnDEAD
@ChucksSEADnDEAD 3 жыл бұрын
Cardboard fertilizer.
@pumpedpixel
@pumpedpixel 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexpeer2 you need to be more realistic, it would be impossible for the government to afford all those social programs. Not to metion the fact, it would be giving the government more power then it needs.
@leventy11
@leventy11 Жыл бұрын
Plato said, "The Root the tyrant springs, he comes first as a protector".
@johnmiddleton726
@johnmiddleton726 Жыл бұрын
Thank you John Stossel!
@dubrbnos
@dubrbnos 3 жыл бұрын
i can't see danny devito the same way after watching this
@Eric_Blair
@Eric_Blair 3 жыл бұрын
I know...very disappointing.
@keesdenheijer7283
@keesdenheijer7283 3 жыл бұрын
Let's have a look: Fascism and socialism are both collectivism and therefore they can be compared.
@ivovloet
@ivovloet 3 жыл бұрын
To me, it seems americans are so scared of the word socialism they cannot even think of a situation in which both can be useful. Depending on the situation and the country, I think socialism and capitalism can be combined to achieve the best society.
@TXKafir
@TXKafir 3 жыл бұрын
Here's a question I rarely get an answer to: A spectrum is a device for measuring something from one extreme to the other. On a political spectrum that puts communists on the left, fascists on the right, and US political parties in the middle, what exactly is being measured?
@Nathan-jh1ho
@Nathan-jh1ho 3 жыл бұрын
It is unfair to say national socialism is socicialism as normally defined. Especially the ultra anti-semitism and ultra-nationlism. Though fascism has strong roots in scoiclism, originating from the Jacobins and other radicals in the French revolution. Mussolini was a socialiat. Fascist mainly splitted over nationalist/cultural views. Both are highly collectivist ideologies that by definition needs authotrianism. Fascist also promote state economic control. They differ on rather it's for the common good of "humanity" or the "nation". That's how you can have a socialist state like China turn into effectively a fascist state without much changes.
@keesdenheijer7283
@keesdenheijer7283 3 жыл бұрын
@@TXKafir Answer: nothing. Putting the fascists ( = National socialism ) on the right side of the spectrum is a joke.
@renkol123
@renkol123 3 жыл бұрын
@@ivovloet The problem with socialism is that we are applying it to the wrong species. Humans are naturally capitalistic purely because we are built to survive. That doesn't mean we're not generous or caring, just that we want what is best for us and our "tribe" over all others. Actually sit most of these socialist believers down and hold them to socialist standards,. They'll change their tune real quick.
@martyp5976
@martyp5976 Жыл бұрын
Si, great content as always!
@AxionSmurf
@AxionSmurf 8 ай бұрын
Lol, back in the day, people lived in their shit houses with straw roofs and slept in the same room as cows. Now people complain if they have to ask customers if they can help them at their air conditioned job.
@jnewgot
@jnewgot 6 ай бұрын
Yes, it will always amuse me how little gratitude people have.
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