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[@Fuegopaintrain]

Fun fact fiddlestick is so old he remembers the gray man which who was death before he split himself in half and became kindred

[@vocalvortexstudios2058]

Which is odd since the kindred aren't the only spirits of death, they're just the most powerful because the most people believe in them Makes me wonder if all spirits can be traced to an original spirit and split apart into every form of spirit the same way demons are spawned and split from the original fears and negative emotions of the first demons, altered by humans

[@Dr-Sex]

@@vocalvortexstudios2058That's an interesting way of looking at things.

[@user-po8mi9st4n]

No that's just kindreds fear

[@BeastOrGod]

Kindreds aren't God of Death. They are just spirits of death.

[@Artenar]

LoR not cannon

[@Artenar]

LoR is not cannon

[@Tako_Anarri]

​@NoEbody it starts to be more like 50-50 since time traveller cythria.

[@raum6241]

​@@Artenar lore devs literally said lor is cannon stop fishing for attention

[@raknaroo2]

​@Raum LoR started as canon, but the devs decided to branch out, and the example that the other guy gave is true, it all started with cithria lady of the clouds card, wich is basically cithria on a mission to save Jarvan IV from.the black rose but that is impossible because cithria joined the dauntless vanguard before right before the shadow isles expedition and that was well after the death of jarvan III and the kidnap of Jarvan IV TLDR: it started as canon but now must cards are what if scenarios

[@wistbluesanime1637]

"Sol was born since the start of creation" Zoe: Where's my pet dog?

[@DouglettDD]

It’s obviously jax, imagine if he had a real weapon

[@yimpyoi9808]

jax is strongest champ if you put a 5 year old on a stick for him to chase like in minecraft with carrots

[@rando2284]

@@yimpyoi9808 jax players*

[@L.A.M.B_B4]

@@yimpyoi9808 Nah I think sett is still stronger than jax, especially if he flash ults irl.

[@raphaelregnault6914]

Well, Jax lost his city to the void. And he had a real weapon at the time.

[@dofiy3471]

Obviously its volibear,volibear ult irl make you quit game called life

[@bbyuparinkahitanongmangyar9030]

imagine being there in the creation of the universe and can create and destroy a world or galaxies on the palm of his hand then get blinded using a blowdart by a fcking rodent

[@EstanislaoSantino-xk8uz]

But there is rumor than there is another God in blidgewater that can beat Asol

[@Jordan76592]

Pro guide, please get your facts straight. We learned in LoR that Kinderd is one of many other death spirits, and these Death spirits can die if they are forgotten. If the Humanity of runterra simply don't believe in Kindred any more they will be devoured by the etherfiend the Vaulter of the masked spirits. Currently, Aurelion Sol is the most powerful being, but he is not immortal. We know That Aurelion fought and defeated some of his "Siblings" for Targon, and Yet he still says in some of his Voice lines there is something bigger than him. A Darkness which will devour evreything (maybe the Watchers)

[@Van_helsing102]

matchup between aurelion and kindred is a dilemma aurelion can't kill kindred in any conventional way and he can't just magically make people forget about kindred the literal personification of death, well theoretically he can blow up the planet 😂 if not then when aurelion die kindred will be there to take him. Aurelion was talking about the watchers (the void) but these's no specific name for said character or whether its power lies in the power of a group or any specific individual

[@Flimmertje]

Some things in LoR may not be canon though.

[@AlexanderVolzing]

​@@Flimmertje im pretty sure LoR is the canon universe

[@Flimmertje]

@@AlexanderVolzing We'll see after they streamline the lore for every Runeterra related thing. LoR is an abondoned project by Riot anyway.

[@AlexanderVolzing]

@@Flimmertje oh definitely not, they put a lot of effort into the art and lore of LoR and they've said themselves that LoR was never meant to be a gold mine. League is the IP where they fuck around with the lore the most, especially in the past two years they've really given up on the lore in league.

[@sleepisgood2936]

Asol created everything the literal breath of creation Bard was the first noise ever made Fiddle was created when the first being shouted or expressed fear, the scream of creation Kindred on the other hand got nerfed to another personification of the grim reaper since on LoR we have different types of deaths that are believed into existence and dies when nobody believes or forgets them

[@rocklemillion8041]

Tbf not all of Lor is canon.

[@Darkstormsun9865]

Asol is not the breath of creation. He was born from it. He sits in the along the lines of bard and fiddlesticks as primordial beings. Ofc there were others who were born as asol.

[@sleepisgood2936]

@@Darkstormsun9865 ofc he isnt asol is not the only space dragon he was one of the space dragons its just that he is the most active around runeterra also he is the one of the oldest celestial dragons thats why hr is regarded that high

[@sleepisgood2936]

@@rocklemillion8041 not all isnt, some are "what ifs" like kayne being shadow having interactions and also rhaast but the grim reaper part is canon

[@TrueBladeSoul]

Well to be fair if we assume the Kindred are the two halves of the gray man who was potentially the true god of death then they might be exceptions to the usual rules

[@SionTheUndeadJuggernaut]

I think Mordekaiser might be here, he did kinda just ignore every form of death several times and then become the king of death.

[@unidino8963]

That's what I'm saying Kindred is death yeah, but if mordekaiser can ignore death TWICE,prepare his own little heaven realm for when he DOES choose to die What is death to a guy who said NAH.

[@birgecedecahilkalandora4166]

Not even a chance

[@CyrusL]

Yeah there multiple realms of runeterra the mortal realm the spirit realm and then mordekaisers death realm

[@stevenarvizu3602]

“Dude, bad news, you’re dead.” “What? But I’m Death.” “Sorry dude, Super Death”

[@doggoborgir8935]

However, the thing is, The true death is being forgotten right?, Does that mean morde being forgotten for until the end of humanity and the spark of new life means he doesn't exist anymore?

[@tuti8514]

Fed master Yi be like: 🗿

[@Aetherius_7]

Yep

[@FireMocs14]

Lmaoo wuju is actually OP I think if wukong master all the wuju style he can slap kindred and aatrox

[@uxy7292]

HAHAHAHAHAAHHA LMAO

[@1nfernaldrak356]

Speaking of Yi, when Yi decided to try it out during the Noxian Invasion, he killed armies of men by himself.

[@justlucifer.]

​@@1nfernaldrak356bro I'm so interested in lore, how do you know this stuff? I wanna read it too!

[@Alex-zb1vf]

I thought pantheon would be on this list since i remember the lore saying something about how even if the current pantheon dies another will take his place or smth like that

[@jesusoctaviodedios8701]

That happens with every aspect and if aatrox could kill one aspect of the war I dont think he is so powerfull

[@TheMyuken]

Celestials can lend their powers to mortals who become Aspects and get access to a lot of power. When those mortals dies, the celestial can just choose another mortal. Atreus received Pantheon's power but he was judged lacking by the god that took full possession of him. Aatrox which is the strongest of the Darkin (Void-corrupted Shuriman-copy of an Aspect) fought with Pantheon and killed him. The god died, Atreus survived. Aspects are really strong but they're not invincible and while Pantheon loses to Aatrox, the Aspect of Twilight (currently Zoe but the feats belong to the previous holder) is the strongest. She sealed all the Darkins in their weapons and managed to put a leash on Aurelion Sol.

[@thenoobulas]

Legends of runeterra, which is confirmed to be Canon, showed that there are multiple aspects of death, and they are created by the Mask Mother, but if mortals in their region ever forget they exist they can be swept away and die themselves, out of the aspects of death, of which there was one for ever region, First wave and the SI 3/1 stat line that summons a 0/1 (I forget his name), there are also others that have faded but these are the only ones we know of, out of every 'Death Mask' only kindred was created by some one other than the Mask Mother as the grey man split his Mask and therefore his soul into lamb and wolf, although Mask mother still guided kindred, kindred is also the most powerful of the 'Deaths' as so far as we know the only other currently active death aspect is Last Wave, the bird with a 3/3 stat line, who controls only part of the Shadow isle, while kindred not only patrols the other part of the Shadow isle but also every other part of the world (there is no mention of her in any bilgewater cards so from my interpretation there must be at least on other active mask there)

[@kribo9272]

Mordekaiser seems like the only one in the lore that could defeat Kindred. He defied death twice and became a god of it.

[@sebbisteinberger4047]

nobody and nothing can defeat death, because no matter how long you life or no matter how often you come back to life, in the end everybody dies some just need a little help.

[@iwatchstuffs7933]

Morde didn't defeat death, he is just denying the inevitable. He is simply stalling time on his faint existence

[@michaelzheng8108]

​@@sebbisteinberger4047 tryndamere ingame: No. Just no.

[@WeakestWaterEnjoyer]

​@@michaelzheng8108Tryndamere just uses Aatrox's blood magic to regenerate and stall death for a while.

[@crymaker9628]

​@@iwatchstuffs7933y all coping hard

[@TorinBlackheart]

Olaf literally can't die to anything but old age so he can probably fight all of these and live

[@crystallreginald1090]

He ain't winning,but he ain't losing either😂

[@elpenguinoofmexico1388]

Mordekaiser should b somewhere on this list. He defies death as a whole. ik its not uncommon for things like darkins and aspects but theoretically they can die in combat whereas Mordekaiser will always come back because of his dominion in the realm of death

[@shrimp2751]

He became death

[@mrfixa7702]

yeah i agree, but there's also the question of whether or not mordekaiser is strong enough to kill gods as a whole, like, damage output you know?

[@arthurironhill4173]

But A Sol hasn’t only resided in runeterra tho, he’s just there now since he got imprisoned. So kindred is ultimately weaker than any being that doesn’t only reside in runeterra

[@stormdragon2529]

Aurelion was enslaved by a former Pantheon aspect but he dosen't reside there, he's only ordered to not destroy runeterra or his stars will die but he's still free

[@shamelabaza3572]

i was expecting braum to make the list! !

[@ggbb056]

Darius With passive actived : Hold my beer 😅😅😂😂

[@Whysoshort]

While yes holding the Reigns to Asol definitely makes Zoe the strongest, id argue she is still the strongest even without Him. She just does things on a whole other level that we've never seen any other aspect do

[@stormdragon2529]

bro Zoe dosen't hold anything to Aurelion. it was a former Pantheon aspect who enslaved him, Asol could turn Zoe into dust with gust of his breath but he finds her entertaining

[@Whysoshort]

@@stormdragon2529 you are both wrong and entirely misunderstood me. I never said Zoe was Zoe was stronger than ASol. It was the Targonian people that enslaved ASol by tricking him into wearing a crown and any aspect could hold the reigns, not just pantheon. Currently it's Zoe. And yes, ASol could turn her into star dust. If he wanted to loose a few stars doing so. No he doesn't find her entertaining, he loaths her. There is a bit of begrudged kinship sure, but he is very much restrained by his enslavement.

[@stormdragon2529]

@@Whysoshort cope

[@Whysoshort]

@@stormdragon2529 I mean, you're saying factually incorrect things and have an ASol picture. Pretty sure I'm not the one coping.

[@stevenarvizu3602]

Hey btw Zoe doesn’t control Aurelion Sol. In fact she’s the only one of the Aspects that _doesn’t_ control Aurelion Sol. Aurelion Sol is the same as the Aspects, a celestial being that has the power to make or destroy the cosmos. The aspects have the same or similar powers to Aurelion Sol. The Aspects were invested in guiding humanity on Runeterra, while Aurelion Sol was focused on building the cosmos. However the other Aspects demanded that the Targonians pay tribute to Aurelion Sol since he created the Sun, which they worship. But it was a plot by the Aspects and the Targonians to trap Aurelion Sol with the golden crown, forcing him to reveal the powers of the sun which the Targonians used to make the Sun Discs and become immortal beings. Although the Aspects did this (which includes the Aspect of Twilight) this was done long before the Aspect of Twilight inhabited either Myisha or Zoe. By the time the Aspect of Twlight uses Zoe as a host, Zoe simply discovers Aurelion Sol and learns about his imprisonment, and promises to help protect him should they try to harm him in any way. But yeah Zoe doesn’t control him or anything, since she isn’t stronger than him, they’re both just the same kind of being with similar interests, plus Zoe simply doesn’t care about that stuff, she is essentially a God of Mischief. Even if she wanted to ‘take the reigns’ or control him, she couldn’t because the other Aspects and then Targonians control him with the crown.

[@gergelyritter4412]

Technically the strongest being should be Mordekaiser. Kindred transports souls into the realm of the dead, which Mordekaiser just happens to have complete control over. And I dont mean that as him having a nice little patch of land and the souls he has are like slaves. He can literally take souls and make them into bricks. He can do anything with souls. So when aurelion sols soul comes to the realm of death, it will be ruled over by Mordekaiser. Necrit has as far as I remember a video in which he ranks every champion based on Lore strength.

[@pinstripe5487]

People keep mentioning Mordekaiser being theoretically stronger than the Kindred, but they're missing the largest piece of the Kindred's lore: they don't exist to people who don't believe in them. The Kindred, along with all the other spirits of death (of which there have been many), only hunt those who actually believe in their existence. The Kindred are likely to be the most influential or strongest of the current death spirits, since nearly every culture seems to have some interpretation of them (Ina and Ani, Farya and Wolyo, etc.). Mordekaiser comes from a very old and long-lost culture that believed in a glorious heaven should they die a good death, similar to ancient Nordic people. He doesn't believe in the Kindred, so the Kindred never hunted him and will never hunt him.

[@malakiquest]

Soraka being blatantly ignored because she’s a healer and power is only measured in terms of damage 😢

[@_Ruhm_]

Asol: sends stars and blackholes to destory Runterra and his opponents Veigar: R

[@thisisquitter]

Kindreds(yes, plural. There are more deaths with different names), although more powerful than Asol, have the same problems as Jack Frost(if you know those movies). They need to be known for them to have jurisdiction on their deaths. At least that's what I gathered from LoRuneterra.

[@ultratog1028]

Kindred are a part of Death, not Death itself. This would be like saying the Grim Reaper is the concept of Death itself when stuff like The Valkyrie also exists as a part of Death.

[@superfishy1487]

Fiddlesticks did not devour the other demons I have no idea where you got that from it doesn’t even make any sense.

[@joranvanolphen9892]

Yeah, especially when it is rumored that swain is in a contract with the Demon of Secrets. Right? Idk for sure tho 😂

[@mustangcody]

I think he's interperting from the "end of men, first of ten" quote Fiddle says.

[@Artenar]

Well cuz you clearly know nothing about Fiddlesticks

[@superfishy1487]

@@Artenar what do I not understand? That Ashlesh the second of the ten demon kings to be revealed is alive and not eaten by fiddlesticks? That it has literally never been said that Fiddle had even eaten any of the other demon kings?

[@joranvanolphen9892]

@@Artenar i mean honestly if you think about it. If he were to have devoured his OG brethren he must be some god of demons. Powers soo strong and feared. He wouldn’t have to hide in the shadows. I mean if he had he probably wouldn’t stalk the edges of mortal society. Induce Fear into his enemies and draining their life force as they make their last scream. Though it is nowhere said that he did or didn’t devour his brethren. We dont even know who they are. Hell there could be lust, chaos, deceit, secrets, darkness. Demonstrated by the existenceof Evelynn, Shaco, Tham Kench, Swain, Nocturne. Not saying they are part of the ten, but their existence kinda suggests there are higher demons in each category

[@RaiNBowShine999]

Kindred isn't above everyone and everything. why does everyone keep saying Kindred is the strongest. Mordekaiser literally willed himself back to life and you said it yourself "IN RUNTERRA". Celestials aren't from Runeterra, Aspects aren't from Runeterra, and Void Creatures aren't from Runeterra. They're only visitors.

[@Nofilter34]

This is based on Necrit's list. Riot confirned Kindred is the strongest in the lore. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZurXpihh7StbKc

[@imhappy._.]

Im pretty sure the aspects are from runeterra. All vessels we know of are from runeterra and mount Targon is also in runeterra. All current aspects also have a vessel in runeterra. Unless you're implying the aspects have other vessels outaide runeterra but the fact that pantheon died in runeterra yet his powers are still in Atreus who is in runeterra kinda confirms tbe aspects are from runeterra. They are runeterran gods kinda like the ascendeds and primordials like Nasus and Volibear.

[@fasasplay]

​@@imhappy._.nasus isnt a primordial being, he and voli don't really compare

[@imhappy._.]

@@fasasplay "They are runeterran gods kinda like the *ASCENDEDS* and primordials like *NASUS* and Volibear."

[@ronnymeister824]

kindred is death itself, split into 2 because death felt lonely. strongest runeterra creature is fiddlesticks by far and one that nobody counts because its his lore from 2010 is shaco. shacos heritage is unknown, the creatures from the shadow islands deny that his origin is from there, mordekaiser probably doesnt know shaco but shaco appears and disappears when he wants where he wants . old lore had texts that the summoners had a hard time getting shaco into the rift because he had other plans. they summoned his clone. lorewise: one of his clones. the mysterium that no champ knows about except his appearing and disappearing while being sure the mask contains one of 10. (one of 10 great evil in the universe) fiddlesticks is the first of 10. an old theory stated that the 10 are 10 embodimentsof fear. fiddlesticks is the instictive fear shaco the fear of the unknown

[@jessiessymphony]

There is another link to what he was talking about though (it probably isn’t cannon, but it’s a very interesting connection). Some pro who know of the Dark Cosmic and Cosmic stories, it might be a connection to the dark cosmic gods, y’know, the ones destroying planets, and whole galaxies. If this is true, then that would mean one of the Cosmic Gods created Runeterra in the first place. AKA: creating ASol. But the darker power would be the Dark cosmic gods, because they wanna destroy everything. It’s probably not cannon,be but it’s interesting anyhow. (Sorry for what I assume is a massive paragraph)

[@TTMILKYTT]

from what i understand Fiddle consumed 7 of the other 9 primal demons, im assuming they’re attached to more base emotions, so where Eve is agony i wouldn’t be surprised if there was an all encompassing pain demon that Fiddle consumed seeing as how Nocturne is nightmares but nightmares are intrinsically tied to fear which is Fiddle’s domain. so where Nilah “tamed” Ashlesh, the demon of joy, i wouldn’t be be surprised to see another demon that is about some other kind of happy emotion

[@abdallahqurashi6585]

First theory of fiddle is wrong cause evelynn demon of lust and tham demon of greed. Theyre 3 currently in game. Fiddle being demon of fear.

[@igorrafinski1635]

youre wrong, but so is he. first of all, there are more demons in lol, nocturne, demon of nightmares, raum (swains hand and crows) demon of secrets, and ashlesh (nilahs helper) demon of joy. He meant that fiddle ate his 9 demon brothers as there were 10 primal urdemons, one of them is fiddle and they are waaaaay stronger than some little weak eve (who is also a demon of suffering and not lust). but this theory is wrong since ashlesh is also an urdemon

[@omarkydevo6319]

​@igorrafinski1635 correct, but you forgot that nilah's contracted demon, the demon of Joy is also on of the 10 primordial demons

[@igorrafinski1635]

@@omarkydevo6319 i.... didnt??? last sentence is litteraly "ashlesh is also and urdemon (urdemon is a name for the primal 10)

[@hoaxanhla]

Kindred had an updated lore, they are just one the many death spirits on runeterra

[@alexalexsander3303]

The most powerful character for now is indeed asol . Cuz he’s the one who creates runeterra and fiddle has never being stated if is he “ancient” ancient like “born with the first fear of rune terra “ or “born with the first fear of the universe “

[@aliencreative9360]

ive always loved kindred. they are grim reapers. i love the duality of lamb and wolf. so many details in the lore. 😢 always will be my fave.

[@gowther1973]

Yeap they are my favorite to remember never one without the other I kind of addicted with them as well I have heard there voice lines an unhealthy amount of times

[@orkastan]

The "Eaten his brothers" theory of Fidllesticks is long time abolished sińce realese of Nilah. It's turns out that she wild power of one of ten demon Kings called Ashlesh. That's also the reason why she thinks she can beat Mordekaiser.

[@littlekitty1819]

To people who are saying Kindred can be forgotten, doesn’t Aurelion Sol and the Aspects need to forget Kindred as well for it to die? Wouldn’t that mean that Kindred will live as long as an aspect or celestial being is alive and remembers them?

[@Shijano]

The Aspects might know death by a different name and Asol probably knows a different name for death as well since he is not from Runeterra. Kindred is the most famous death spirit so it probably won't die for now. Asol dropping a star on the planet should suffice to end Kindred if he doesn't already know them.

[@inbeing3464]

Kindred is not the only spirit of death, so no. If they dont remember kindred specifically then it will still die

[@iwatchstuffs7933]

Zoe is the most chaotic one here because no matter whether she likes it or not in her presence change will always occur

[@theboiwho8pasta]

Bro didn't mention that Fiddlesticks was also there since the breath of creation.

[@Obscurite1221]

I still rate zilean as strongest in lore. Time magic is just strictly unfair, and he's the only one canonically to know it or have the capability to use it.

[@ruiribeiro8010]

Kindred is merely a spirit of death, it could not dedeat Aurelion in battle. Kindred is not death itself, spirits of death (because there are many, kindred is simply Runeterra's most well known/powerful) act more as messengers of death, guides to the after life and figures of Judgement on wether you must face torture or peace upon death. They DO NOT chose when things die, or how, they just know. So waiting for things to die doesn't really make you more powerful simplu because you'll be there when they do. Additionally, the celestial beings exist outside of Runeterra, and as I said before Kindred operates only in Runeterra, therefore even if we accepted the logic above, Kindred would have no influence on Asol regardless. Kindred have no combat feats tbh, meanwhile Asol can destroy the entire planet if he wanted to and was freed, this would immediately "end" kindred, because they would be left with no more Runeterra and no more people who believe/follow them as deities, which means that they would end up "dying" because that's how spirits work. The less followers and believers they have, the weaker they become, once they become fully forgotten they pretty much go insane and are left weak with no influence whatsoever, until eventually disappearing. Not to mention that the Pantheon constelation/celestial was presumed dead after the aspect died to Aatrox, but such was clearly not the case since during the ruination it came back and also Pantheon's spear and shield remain, with their powers may I add, so we dont even actually know if celestials being even trully come to an end. Therefore, even Kindred couldn't hope to defeat Celestial beings, much less Asol of all of them.

[@GDSam75]

The fact that Kindred is the strongest and the oldest champion is so cool

[@Cardinalbins]

I didnt know that bard was the very first cosmic fart😮

[@raulbaica]

Holds the reigns of aurelian and has a crush on ekko

[@mangasaint]

Ezreal^

[@user-uw7wj5rr9c]

Ezreal actually

[@raulbaica]

I stand corected

[@axelb7775]

Well kindred were signifficantly nerfed, so they have dropped way below asol, honestly a lot of champs don't get affected by them at all anymore

[@tolgakasap2606]

No runeterra = no one to remember kindred = no kindred. Asol is still stronger, kindred isn't the THE death more like upper manager of death.

[@gerday8518]

Asol is still the strongest, kindred isn't death itself, just a spirit and there are also different spirits for different beliefs of deaths. In my opinion the actual embodiment of death is Grey Man.

[@joelputnam2888]

Kin is only a death spirit of runeterra (the most powerful of the runeterran death spirits) not of ever living thing. They don’t rule over life or death either, they release those that except their end or if they don’t… eat them or what ever. If there were a cosmic, celestial spirit of death perhaps they’d rank higher than Asol, but I doubt “the end” beats the beginning.

[@Artenar]

LoR is not cannon

[@steverainbow2.0]

​@@Artenar parts of lore are cannon and others parts are not cannon , the skin of nazus corrupted by xolaani are not cannon ,

[@kelp8749]

Nunu and his dreamy thingy? Forgot his actual power but i thought there was some kind of thing that made Nunu OP

[@insoars7779]

Fiddlesticks is pretty op with you know. Omniscience

[@blazingspirit2522]

2 things, kindred is the physical manifestation of death and also lillia is the physical manifestation of dreams and shouldve been included here somewhere

[@jasonmiller2379]

Fiddlesticks is the first primordial Demon that was awakened, the only other known primordial Demon that was awakened in some fashion, is Ashlesh, as he is bound to Nilah

[@Dnarxus]

I don't get why they would rank the Kindreds over the celestials and even the primal demons. They're like reapers, they simply meet everyone in Runeterra upon their death. It doesn't mean they're the ones who killed them or that they're stronger than the celestials and gods and even the primal demons.

[@vlexvv8186]

Thx for recapping necrit’s video

[@JOFW2024]

The demons also get power based on whay emotion they are. Tahm is greed, Nocturne is nightmares and paranoia, Evelyn is lust, Shaco is sumn (#no lore), fiddlesticks is Fear

[@finnthehero3558]

I watched Necrit's video 3 years ago, same top 5 so sadly old news

[@Far-Reez]

Remember that even Fiddlesticks knows what Kindred (the spirit of death itself) fear of? "Greyman..." Funny that even death itself has a fear.

[@mhm4634]

kindred isnt death they are one of many reaper spirits that guide souls to the death realm in runeterra, the greyman is death

[@blero9089]

I love seeing some lore there too

[@MasterDizaster-db7pn]

Actually hear me out aatrox (my fav champ) is by lore totally immortal like absolutelly and in the cinematic last one with old yasuo kindred etc only aatrox cant be killed neither by organa and kayle and kindred Also cant kill him so maybe he is not the strongest one but in the long run he always wins

[@cristalmyth09]

Kindred are spirits that help usher people into the afterlife willingly or forcefully

[@SuHISKgeroto]

Well, one of Fiddleaticks' brothers are in game, actually. Nihlah is possessed by him

[@eintweihencrothen4502]

The problem, like Many other ppl think, is that Kindred is not Death. Kindred is an AGENT of Death actually, it's like The Shinigamis in the Death Note opera, plus or less Fiddlesticks is the demon of Fear, it's like the fear incarnated, an avatar, and it's a demon because basically he's evil. Basically any kind of being who can feel fear, may them be spirits, humans, dragons, or what else, are weak to fiddlesticks. Not ESSENTIALLY weaker, but still weak.

[@confusedcat261]

Isn't fiddlesticks a primal demon?

[@harz632]

Kindred is no where near the top, it is a representation of death but not death itself, Kindred can only affect those that believe in it, which isn't that many people. If you had a poison that could instantly kill anyone but you can only use it on a few dozen people in a handful of villages and anyone else is immune to it, you wouldn't call the the world's deadliest poison.. The true No1 would be a Toss up between Asol and Mordekaiser, depending on if Mordekaisers undead magic can affect Asol and if Asol can in anyway interact with the afterlife to stop Morse. If Asol is affected by Mordekaisers magic and can't harm him in the realm of death, then Morde would be No1

[@44tan]

This is based on old kindred lore by the looks of things which would make kindred #1

[@dearickangelonej.legaspi6686]

First entry and i already quedtion this since Zoe's aspect is terrifying even without Asol(who is already FREE)

[@schattenherz3019]

So I have seen some people argue about weither kindred are really more powerful than asol is and I would like to give a suggestion: Kindred literally are spirits of death and the only way for them to die is by being forgotten. Asol however can die eventhough he is immortal. Now the problem with saying that kindred are more powerful than asol lies within following fact: kindred only kill the living. They dont care about undead beings and since asol is by far the most powerful being in terms of raw power (not fighting power) I believe there is a way for him to revive himself after dying once, while kindred cant prevent themselves disappearing as soon as they are forgotten. We also know that there are ways to kill the immortals (looking at the god of war and probably the primal demons. Maybe fiddlesticks can absorb other beings? and I could imagine that spirits have the same limitations as celestials for example. And even if they cant be killed they can still be sealed like the watchers or the darkin were. Asol is one of the oldest beings in existens and has seen every event in runeterras history so why wouldnt he know how to seal immortal beings and spirits if mortals or magicborn can? (Idk what Lysandra is but she is not fully immortal since kindred are inticipating her death just like they do with Vladimir and LeBlanc who both arent immortal as they are but rather use their magic to cheat death.) I believe that full poerr Asol is only rivaled by the watchers and maybe the prima beings like bard or fiddlesticks. Btw am I the only one asking himself if bard and fiddlesticks are 2 sides of the same coin? Bard is the first sound of the cosmos while fiddlesticks is the primal fear, a screach coming as the universe was created. It honestly sounds like they could have been one once and then split into two beings or maybe bard is one of the primal demons too? I mean it wouldnt make sense for him to be a demon but there has to be some correlation between those two, right? Please send help, my brain is heating up to much!

[@cutiebunnyamber3447]

*no.*

[@schattenherz3019]

@@cutiebunnyamber3447 "no" what? "No" you disagree because you know it better or "no" you disagree because you dont know it better but want to disagree?

[@cutiebunnyamber3447]

@@schattenherz3019 *men.*

[@schattenherz3019]

@@cutiebunnyamber3447 troll?

[@cutiebunnyamber3447]

@@schattenherz3019 *h*

[@da_slayer_7863]

Not sure if pantheon but pantheon going tow to tow with aatrox and xzarath would put him quite up there, wanting to challenge the likes of asoule, would put him up there know?

[@Ledros]

Ik this is very controversial, but I believe Ryze should make the cut. He has all the world runes, and was implied to defeat Xolaani, so definitely above Zoe

[@pickledokra2963]

Nah zoe highest fr

[@Ledros]

@@pickledokra2963 🧢

[@pickledokra2963]

@Tomek Łoś zoe controls all tho

[@Ledros]

@@pickledokra2963 no. She's just an aspect

[@Ledros]

@@pickledokra2963 not even that, just a host for an aspect

[@travelingmerchant6434]

Aatrox > Kindred because he has literally called Kindred out to fight him multiple times, and Kindred keeps ducking him (in the lore)

[@Artenar]

Nice lies

[@incitatus634]

​@@Artenar Aatrox is so immortal that he literally wants to die and killed an immortal God

[@steverainbow2.0]

​@@incitatus634 celestials are not imortal ,

[@crymaker9628]

​@@steverainbow2.0he legit is though

[@ragnarockbalance907]

Mordekaiser died, found no paradise. And became God of death.

[@Regunes]

Kindred was retconed. She is a spirit. Also rip mordekaiser at the bottom of the top 5

[@leonskalski3869]

"All things even the gods must come to an end" mordekaiser:pathethic

[@gowther1973]

Yeap 🤣

[@supersamxyz3887]

But he can make people forget kindred. Simply destroy runeterra.

[@Nofilter34]

Kindred is the personification of death. They will still exist even upon runeterra's destruction

[@Mohamed-lh9hc]

Not really according to the new lor if people people of noxsasand demacial forgot her she will die

[@inbeing3464]

​@@Nofilter34 no. Kindred WILL die if noone remembers it. This was already confirmed

[@steverainbow2.0]

​@@inbeing3464 kindred is the conception of death for the people of runeterra

[@inbeing3464]

@@steverainbow2.0 no, it is simply a spirit of death. And its not even the only one, just one of the more powerful ones

[@onlyshemhazai9153]

And Sol lost to a stupid rat with poison dart in 1v1.

[@aperson9053]

Dont we also know that aslash demon of joy is apart of the 10 primordial demons so fiddle cant have ate the other 9

[@dragonhunterg6137]

Evelynn as well

[@steverainbow2.0]

​@@dragonhunterg6137 Evelyn is not primordial

[@MaxBlight]

LoLs lore is insane, and let's not forget the Darkins and voidborns that are literally melted people due to other power sources that are beneath this list.

[@meimphisto]

Mordekaiser would like a word with kindred about death both in lore and in game. 😂

[@coltshanks457]

I know some people will disagree but its Shaco he is so insanely powerful he doesnt even exist in the realm of understanding he is considered a glitch because he should exist?

[@keidzinakara8061]

Kindred not only death in runterra not are death himself

[@Lyxatrian]

Zoe is basically the collector of the runeterra lore. ever watch owl house?

[@TUIGokuthegoat]

Strongest champion in lore: Kindred Strongest champion in game: Sett (5000 true dmg one W and ult deals 3000 physical dmg💀)

[@maximgolovin1527]

Ever heard my first jam? Yea, it was 🎶🎷

[@mrfixa7702]

i still think the demigods, Ornn, volibear, and anivia should still be stronger than fiddlesticks, and Volibear quite literally cannot die as long as storms exist because they make people think of him which makes him ATLEAST stronger than kindred, anivia is a "cryo-pheonix" so im not exactly sure if she has the revival powers of one, and ornn still kinda in the grey

[@OrdanKarris]

you said "champs" not entire beings in the lore nagakabouros: *so i created a few universes (including runeterra base original league lore), with an illaoi in each universe, so Aurelion, you make galaxies? well, i made entire exsistances* - and this is cannon + you can hear base illaoi saying: "We are not one soul. We are many" and yeah, i'm a main illaoi, proud of my champ being called OP and useless at the same time, with 0 pick rate, and having the strongest being on the universes of league as his assistant

[@naofumi8548]

The only answer is Papa Grag and his Barrels of Booze

[@spintria8047]

His true girthyness bounds the very fabric of reality into an everlasting flourish of pure ethanol for gragas to consume.

[@Mrbliss36]

Sol could literally smack runeterra from existence and kindred would disappear.

[@noobdude_isgamer8773]

no mention of Ryze, the only wielder of the world runes without being corrupted by them??

[@Strahinja_Djordjevic]

Kindred does not scale above Aurelion in power... Plus Mord would scale above kindred since he already died and decided to become God of death like the Chad he is....

[@jonmusiao3048]

kindred are not like a death, it’s much harder to explain, they are not a death cause there are more deaths in lol lore.

[@enigma4570]

And the there is a a Mt. Everest wit a jet propulsion 😂😂

[@IIISTYXIII]

Aatrox kill aspect of war in pantheon,so He is the powerful entity in runettera

[@hstpresident7551]

Kinder isn't death kindred is basically the grim reaper which are two totally different

[@dancslaszlo8636]

I mean Teemo could blind even Aurelion sol, so he must be in the list, also Kayn was able to overcome a darkin weapon by himself, wich i belive not even Nasus, or anyone could do.

[@yoyo9798]

Kindred aren't Gods of death, they're spirits of death and they are not the only one, they are just the more powerful because they are the most known. And also they can die if everybody forget them, so I think they are not the most powerful beings in that world

[@50_foot_punch99]

Fiddlesticks just keeps getting scarier

[@nobodywashere4743]

The crown holding Aurelion has cracks now.

[@lehelboross625]

Kindred is a little bit overrated, because, based on Legends of Runeterra, they are not the only spirits of death. There are a lot of spiritual creatures, Kindred is just the strongest of allbof them, and Kindred is only Runeterra's death spirit. In other worlds, they don't have any effects.

[@ilovealmondtofu4726]

And their is Pantheon/Atreus ready to beef with them

[@craiglaurenceleonidas7501]

Since morde defies death kindred can't do anything to him but that doesn't make him more stronger than the gods does it?

[@Roky_Ruku]

Mordekayser: "death? Tolk for you weakling"

[@Arob4343]

But does A Sol have to die? He’s not of Runeterra

[@riccardodrera4564]

Aatrox killed an aspect (the one of war), so he could definitely beat Zoe

[@onepuncheve9818]

Zoe is the one who learned mortals how to seal away Darkins during the Great Darkin War. I'd assume that someone who has the knowledge of sealing away Darkins would also have no problem sealing one. Some theories say that Zoe was the one who sealed Aatrox into his Great Sword in the first place.

[@riccardodrera4564]

@@onepuncheve9818 Aatrox and other darkins were sealed by luring them into a trap, but in a face to face Aatrox would kill almost everyone

[@shea1762]

I kinda hate when ppl rate kindred highest because kindred cannot kill or act they only guide ppl to the afterlife