5 Tips for a Smaller Pedalboard

[@VertexEffectsInc]

What are some of your solutions for saving space on your pedalboard? Let us know in the comments below! TABLE OF CONTENTS: 00:00 Introduction 01:10 Tip 1 - Top Jacks! 03:16 Tip 2 - Use a Riser! 06:19 Tip 3 - Low Profile Cables 09:11 Tip 4 - Low Profile PSUs 11:06 Tip 5 - Effect Pedals w/High-Quality Buffers 12:51 Outro

[@RulgertGhostalker]

another thing some builders don't mention is, Don't use any time based effects .... you don't need pedals like that. get / use plugins in your DAW environment, and let your venue's natural ambiance be your reverb....( some people would argue that.. i of course understand, but i don't )

[@lancecox8084]

Just wanted to thank you Mason for all the tips and recommendations on pedal building and getting the best results, Thanks to spending almost a year and a half in lockdown and turning my focus back to music to get through it all, I defiantly went Pedal crazy and made it a major project to build my ideal Pedal-board, your live shows have provided so much help in doing a pro job!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

I’m so pleased! So glad I could help

[@maz7100]

For about 20 years now I’ve used old cassette tapes ( in their cases) and then wrapped with electrical tape …then I put Velcro on the top/bottom to attach it to the board… works quite well as a riser… it’s just enough space to clear jacks and make room. 🤣

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Ha! Good call

[@theviolinoob]

Genius

[@phunkyjunkee]

I use wood pieces with Velcro on each side

[@GregVanAlstyne]

We need to hear those 20-year-old cassettes! Time to bust them out on KZbin for an anniversary party 🎉

[@MrSpeed-lt8gr]

Thank you for your tips, Mason. It’s unreal how much pedals and pedalboards have evolved since my plywood pedalboard that I spray painted black and covered in Velcro back in 1998 🤣😂

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Oh boy! They have evolved alright!

[@hummarstraful]

That is a LOT of information packed into a 15 min video. This channel is a must-subscribe for guitarists. I keep coming back again and again for the best pedal info anywhere.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Amazing!! Thanks for the support!!

[@Mindartcreativity]

After the first rehearsal with my new band a few weeks ago, I decided to switch my big homeboard to a Pedaltrain Nano+. It was too heavy(over 12 pounds/6kg!), too big and too many pedals I didn’t need. For my band I only use a tuner, a distortion and OD, a fuzz and a reverb/delay. My tip is to start with the smallest board you can get away with. Secondly, decide the minimum of pedals you really need and USE. Thirdly, get pedals that can do multiple things. For me, I use reverb and sometimes delay, so instead of using seperate pedals I use the Boss RV-6 which can do reverb+delay. It made me really understand how to use these effects once I was limited. With the Nano+ I use a Cioks DC5 so I have 5 outputs for 5 pedals or 6 pedals if I daisy chain two pedals. I have 3 drive pedals, a TS Mini, a Mooer Black Secret and an EQD Cloven Hoof. The first two are daisy chained as they only draw 10-20mA. The output that remains free is my wildcard slot. Sometimes I add a POG2 (yes it fits although sideways) or a chorus or even an additional drive pedal. My tuner is a Polytune Mini. Although I hate mini pedals because of my shoe size, it‘s the best way to go to save space and weight. The best thing is, I can just grab my board (it weighs just 2.5kg) and my guitar and take public transport to our rehearsal space AND I still have every pedal I really need for my sound/band. I don‘t regret my decision of downsizing at all.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Thanks for sharing this...looks like by the "likes" people are already finding this helpful!

[@Mindartcreativity]

@@VertexEffectsInc Glad to share my thoughts. And thank YOU for making this channel, I have learned a lot especially about power supplies which is quite important.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

@@Mindartcreativity I'm so glad!

[@stevensrp2music985]

Risers have made my life easier for years now. SP400s are a Godsend for sure and I really appreciate all of your info on them over the past year or so. Thanks for all the great tips and tricks!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

So glad you dig it!

[@stevensrp2music985]

I’m so glad I found your channel last year lol! Take care and keep it up

[@VertexEffectsInc]

@@stevensrp2music985 Thanks for watching!

[@flyguyty33]

Great video! I build my own pedalboards out of wood and have them a few inches higher at the top to hide power supplies and cables underneath the board. Also drill holes on top of the board to run cables and power source to look clean.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Cool you just need to be careful as many of the common power supplies aren’t designed to have pedals on top of them. You can create a lot of noise in some conditions

[@rbroderick]

Great info 👍 Looking at building a pedalboard to electrify my sax.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

You should!

[@TheClicheGaming]

for someone who is pretty much the authority on pedal building your channel took me way too long to find! thanks for the tips.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Hope you found it helpful

[@zealfer]

Hi Mason, I just want to say thank you. I am now enjoying my pedalboard because of the tips you've shown here. I've built my own compact pedalboard and it works so well!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Great to hear!

[@Corporations8MyBaby]

Well done. All your content has been very informative and entertaining this past year but this one gets an extra plus on the "A" because of how concise and tight the points were ... matches the pedalboard.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Thank you so much for your support! Really appreciate your viewership

[@MrAxman53]

I discovered the Polytune 3 with the built-in buffer a ways back and it's been at the front of my signal chain ever since. At the end of the chain, I use the buffer in my Eventide H9, which has an output impedance of 470 ohms. Works great. I have pristine signal even with six or more true bypass pedals in the chain.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Great! The lower the better on the output impedance as possible!

[@MrAxman53]

@@VertexEffectsInc I have to imagine that Eventide knows what they're doing, right? 😉

[@VertexEffectsInc]

@@MrAxman53 it's not as low as I'd hope for, no analog dry thru either...not ideal for me.

[@mr.brettjames]

Thanks Mr Axeman, saved me searching for my H9's output! 👍🏼

[@KristianHeartmusic]

I feel like smaller boards are definitely coming back in popularity for sure

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Small power packed for sure

[@samz9121]

I heard it said from the key team in my worship team at church is that the PTJr is the perfect size for what we do if we pick our battles right. Buffer, comp, preamp, 3 drive stages, mod, delay, reverb and a Morningstar MC6 to control everything in wet land. All of this out to a Kemper and we have pretty much, in my opinion, the ideal church rig setup. All that’s left is to make space for altoids. (Iykyk)

[@slimbeaux]

Thanks!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Thanks Slim!

[@peterbrusch1493]

This Channel is a fountain of knowledge about pedalboards. Thank You for letting me take part in Your enormous experience in building pedalboards. Helps me a lot!

[@TheJD616]

This was exactly the info I was looking for! I kept running into the “use fewer pedals” advice. The individual pedal risers will be a game changer for me. Thanks!

[@mbarlow111]

Great. Super straight forward. trying to slim down as it were, as i like overly complex sounds. really nice job.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Thank you so much for watching!

[@danielhunsinger8017]

I'm all for top jacks but the issue I find is sometimes they make the pedals to close together and you might press a pedal you don't want to turn On or OFF. I think the best way to maximize your smaller board is to give up having the same thing over and over. Multi effects pedals like programmable ones like the Boss 500 line is a really good way to have more pedals with less space.

[@safuan3573]

Great tips as usual!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Thanks for watching!

[@joshbaker5403]

Just starting my first bass pedal board. This video really helps. Thanks

[@VertexEffectsInc]

❤️❤️❤️

[@samz9121]

My board is an odd bunch. A PT junior-sized board with 11 topside and 2 underside (including a One Spot Pro CS7) Topside, a DVP 3XL (because I like having a larger sized volume pedal) on the right side Next to it going down is an upright Mooer Yellow Comp, sideways Keeley Super Phat Mod, and an upright Sub n Up Top and bottom in the middle are the Strymon Iridium and the Pettydrive, joined by the Polytune noir and a riser mounted Wampler Tumnus for Klon boosted fun. All upright. To the left is from bottom to top, a Nova Delay, Specular Tempus, and a sideways Zoom multistomp. On the underside is a mounted CS7 and a Bonafide Buffer undermounted at the input. Slowly converting my patch cables to EBS Golds compared to the standard pancakes I've used all the while. The Zoom multistomp is for those fun effects I don't use as often and frees me up from missing the Strymon Timeline Ice setting, a Rat, a Julia, and straight-up distortion. Everything else is fair game for what I do. Lead is a Mogami silent plug and out to a passive DI.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Nice!

[@lylesmith9547]

I start my chain with the 3 tuner and finish with a Strymon Volonte as soon as it arrives. Can’t wait to try it out.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Cool, just make sure the Tuner has a good in/out impedance and the Volante is set to the buffered mode.

[@stretchedbag1963]

Great tips Doctor! Some awesome boards featured here, makes me want to run and hide, my builds work… but they’re so ugly. Thanks for posting

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Hopefully through the videos you'll feel more confident to upgrade and make changes to your rig!

[@druwk]

Those Square pancake plugs look amazing! I’m determined to keep my pedal board small! Two for One pedals can also help? I’m a Fuzz kind of guy, so I end up with my Buffered Tuner Late in my chain. Getting everything on there, tidy, not too close, and functional is always a challenge? Still figuring out my Gain/Fuzz situation. So the right side of my board isn’t locked down yet! Saw an interesting demo where a player was stacking Overdrive into various Fuzz pedals...I’m intrigued? Right now I’m going the other way around. Have you ever thought about a “hinged bridge riser” with a slight angle (85*), instead of being so square? Pedals should be duel-locked down, and the slight angle would make it easier to tap the upper row and still clear the lower bout?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Nope no angle...too perverse

[@johnschoppmusic]

Love these videos Mason! Thank you! ~cheers

[@VertexEffectsInc]

🙏🙏🙏

[@javier_arenales]

Great tips Mason!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Glad you liked it!

[@goingbananas]

This is a very helpful video. This shows me a lot of solutions for my pedalboard that I will use. Thanks for this tips your the best 🤘🏻😁🤘🏻

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Not.Satoshi]

I mount a power supply AND an innerface module under the board. I take the screws out of the module and use the enclosure cover plate as a template to drill holes through the board. Then I mount the module underneath with thick dual lock and use longer screws that go from top of board, through the enclosure covers screw holes, into the threads on the enclosure box. Often times pedalboards have a lip on the edge, in this case I use spacers between the enclosure and the underside of the board.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Okay

[@kingslyashish]

Another way of achieving a smaller pedalboard is by using The pedals which may do more than one effects or have presets (like in Overdrives )... The example would be Hx Stomp - we can run delay, modulation and reverb in one pedal or Chase Bliss Benson preamp or other overdrive pedals wich has preset or dual Overdrives , so that we do not have to have multiple Overdrives to get the sound. It's just my thinking.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Yea, but the "Swiss Army Knife" stuff is always a tonal compromise compared to the real stuff it's trying to emulate.

[@ccfmafia3301]

It's cool seeing the polara on your board. It gets a bunch of love from synth guys but you don't see guitar player talking about it

[@VertexEffectsInc]

It's one of the best Verb's in town!

[@Stereo1782]

Great Tips really helpful

[@VertexEffectsInc]

🙏🙏🙏

[@DeGroove]

Why doesn’t anybody make pedals with the jacks on the bottom of the pedals? Right where the cables should be, out of sight, underneath your board. With maybe some kind of modular jacks on the board, plug and play? Just an idea.

[@manuleduc9465]

Thank you, great value tips.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Glad it was helpful!

[@hiram6760]

my solution for saving space is not to have many pedals on the pedalboard it may sounds funny but its true . now you only need few pedals perfect ex Jimmy Hendrix and I'm not going into that .. the main reason is to "play music" and to enjoy it . I would suggest you ask an expert like Mason to build you a professional pedalboard and be done with it , u only pay once and save tons of money and headaches unless u take time to know exactly what you really want and stick with it . knowing there is no such thing as a perfect sound also what kind of music u play will give u an approach ... thank you Kindly for sharing .

[@VertexEffectsInc]

But did Jimi use few pedals out of choice alone or what was available at the time? There fewer than 20 pedals at that time and he used Wah, Fuzz, and Uni Vibe. Now there are approximately 5,000 pedal makers with innumerable models. Apply that same ratio and 2021 Jimi has 100 + pedals on his rig ;)

[@hiram6760]

@@VertexEffectsInc "The enemy of art is the absence of limitations".

[@freddiemercury4552]

Really love your channel.. The best..

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Thank you very much!

[@bluztime5271]

Awesome info, thank you

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Thanks for watching!

[@lavadoraautomatica1]

Waiting for the collider in the mail.

[@TomaszGutka]

If my pedalboard starts with buffer in Polytune 3 mini, do I still should turn Buffer in Strymon Timeline which is last in my signal chain or it's better to put it in true bypass mode since the signal already has the right impedence? Between them there is Friedman IRX so a cab sim and maybe MS3 will also be added

[@jfunky8721]

If you have a wah and a fuzz. Would the polytune mini 3 be more effective first in the chain if it’s true bypass or buffered bypass?

[@jazzzfer]

Following... always wondered too

[@gregorglasbruch6917]

You need to test this. Some fuzzes lose their original sound (getting trebly and harsh) when they follow a buffered pedal, however, some don‘t.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

If it's buffered after impedance sensitive stuff after the input buffer. If it's true bypass it can go first.

[@reverendg5937]

Thanks

[@VertexEffectsInc]

No problem

[@OlandoMcCall]

Great vid only problem is if you have a board you'll have to covert over and there's no way to accommodate them(risers) with say a temple audio board. I'll eventually convert but it's an investment in time to do so....

[@VertexEffectsInc]

We make risers for these - releasing soon!

[@OlandoMcCall]

@@VertexEffectsInc getting money ready!

[@OlandoMcCall]

@@VertexEffectsInc keep in mine you'll have plenty with more than one size bought bigger and that still doesn't work. Your solution seems to work best as shown on a previous vid of yours. In my case I have a solo 18 that I could put above my dual 36, but I have no way to rise it. If that makes sense.

[@VincVEVO]

Cool video and good informations! Thanks man!!! ;)

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Happy to help!

[@bobbreckenkamp4641]

Man, I wish you guys made a multi-tier pedal board that worked with zip ties. That's all I use. But I love your multi-tier design!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Bob, zip ties are a no go for me, but Holey Boards might work for you - check them out.

[@bobbreckenkamp4641]

@@VertexEffectsInc I've been using the Holeyboard for many years, and before them I built my own out of HDPE (kind of heavy but easy to work with) but I like the layout of yours a lot. Just thought I'd ask. Thanks!!

[@ratobasherelectronics2668]

What are good power supplies? My pedal board has in this order polytune3, DOD fx75b stereo flanger - splits into A = distortion pedal, B = into Boss sy1, A+B into EHX SMMH that outputs to A = bass amp B = guitar amp.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Watch our Power Supply buyer's guide video! It'll tell you all you need to know :)

[@KramAsylamStudio]

Great content!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Thanks for watching!

[@kainagami]

Guess that I have to get rid of all my MXR pedals :p haha Anyway, thank you for all your advices Mason!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

NO!!! Just for space savings and just a suggestions, not an absolute

[@youssefkasim7556]

Is the Mesa Boogie STOWAWAY compact buffer as good as the high wire? Or what is the difference? Also, is the strymon Zuma a good power supply?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

It’s half of the High Wire, only a single buffer not a dual buffer.

[@arkavagoswami3068]

Rig-1 a caline powerbrick tc sentry noise gate looping (ts mini mooer 009 preamp) tc corona chorus tc flashback 2 ehx oceans 12 mooer radar rig-2 xsonic xtone iPhone 7

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Nice!

[@Contra2009]

Would you please suggest a few options for input/output buffers for bass guitar? I’m struggling to find many that meet your suggested 2.2-10meg input impedance and 100-250ohm output impedance. Love the content! Many thanks!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Watch our Bass Rig best practices video

[@kodykindhart5644]

🤘

[@slimbeaux]

Thank you for all your help.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Thanks Slim!

[@gustavoviveros8394]

Great thank You 👍🏻

[@VertexEffectsInc]

You are welcome!

[@STRATMAN1969]

Hi Doc You've been so helpful on this build I'm still working on .I'm wondering if I could once again get some advice? I think I've figured out by way of your elimination i.e. move power supply ,turn off buffer ,check each pedal. That the problem is in the jack of one of the inputs of my Walrus Phoenix .Is this something that can cause my amp to short circuit ,and fry pedals ( Malekko 616 dead ,and Taurus Dexter : ( Thank God I don't think it hurt my Keeley eccos when it shorted it out ,cuz it works fine on it's own adapter still in the chain. Would love any advise or thoughts . Thanks from a very sick board .

[@VertexEffectsInc]

The power supply has outputs (not inputs) but are you certain the polarity is right? Is the voltage at 9V? You can try measuring it to ensure that it's putting out 9V with a multimeter.

[@scottchristensen3694]

What's your opinion of off-set and straight jacks to connect a run of side jack pedals to adjust for a bit of up n down instead of cable? Seems to work well. Your thoughts?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

No good

[@macpakinga1271]

You da man brother thank you for sharing 🎸❤ im going solo. 🎸

[@kenhillmusic]

Great stuff. Any recommendations for road/flight cases?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

See the website, they’re all listen there www.vertexeffects.com/store

[@ransom77]

What do you think of the CIOKS AC10? I have an ancient Digitech pedal that uses a 9VAC adaptor that’s a massive wall wart, so I need a power supply that has AC options also. Should I be concerned with placement of something like the CIOKS AC10 on my board with respect to AC causing noise/hum? In a perfect world I’d love to not have that be an issue, but I gotta do what I gotta do!

[@eriksonderlon]

I'm updating my previous reply. I Just turned my rig up loud and with my fuzz and overdrive pedals sitting directly on top of a CIOKS DC10 and there is a slight hum. When I pull the pedals away from the power supply about 6 inches it goes away. Hmmm... :/ I think the DC10 may not be a Switchmode supply because it has a selector for 120v/240v so that would mean there is a transformer in it (it's heavy). Not sure about the AC10 but it too has the switch for 120v/240v.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

They're great. You can also check out the Truetone CS-12 which does AC and DC.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

move the power supply away from the pedals and check.

[@ransom77]

@@VertexEffectsInc awesome, thank you!!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

@@ransom77 my pleasure!

[@mellowmonsoon278]

6. Use hybrid pedals like collider , brothers , etc.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

You mean like 2 in 1 type pedals?

[@mellowmonsoon278]

@@VertexEffectsInc yes

[@joshgreen4521]

Hmmm.. I'm a little confused. I watched a video where you talked about the essential reasons of getting a pedal which was dedicated to buffering the signal and not use pedals which are not build to buffer the signal. But in this video you are saying that the Strymon Big Sky - I suppose also Timeline and maybe the Blue Sky (I have these) are fine buffers? I also have the Daddario tuner - or would I need to get the TC electronic poly tuner to do the job? I have ordered 2 buffer pedals recently now, but are they really needed then?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Having dedicated buffers is ideal in most cases, however for some they might have pedals that can achieve this internally. We have a video titled something like "Pedals With Great Built In Buffers" that has a list of all pedals that have our approved buffer specs, including the Strymon devices. Remember however these pedals need to be first and last to get the benefits of having an input and output buffer.

[@joshgreen4521]

I have read up on it. It seems to be the case that the Blue Sky has the input and output buffer quality as you specified. (y) I will use one of my ordered buffers in the start of my signal chain before my tuner which does not have buffer quality. There is 6 pedals in between the buffer and the Timeline. Will it be too much buffering with the Timeline right before the Blue Sky and the buffer in the beginning of the signal chain?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

@@joshgreen4521 The blue sky will only work as the output buffer if it's dead last, you'll still need an input buffer first.

[@joshgreen4521]

@@VertexEffectsInc I came to the same conclusion yesterday from reading up on my pedals. Thank you very much for quick reply! I love your content and I am very inspired by the pedalboards you design. 👍 I have one question remaining though: Is a Timeline followed by a Blue Sky too much buffering when they both have high quality in built buffers?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

@@joshgreen4521 I would bypass the buffer in your Strymon device that is not the last pedal in the chain. So if your signal path ends with the Timeline, Blue Sky, Amp - bypass the buffer in the Timeline, but keep it active on the Blue Sky.

[@sorenrichenberg3313]

7:54 another pedal, always a great thing

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Thanks for watching!

[@mikebostic5713]

1. Dunlop mini volume 2. TC PolyTune 3. Keely compressor 4. Nobels ODR-1 5. Carbon Copy 6. Fender Deluxe Reverb

[@VertexEffectsInc]

"1 Tip for A Rig" :). Thanks for watching!

[@efsglass]

@vertex effects in your experience would it be ok to share power on a switch mode supply(cioks hi5) between origin cali 76 stacked and a kingtone duellist? They can both run on 9 or 18 and the cioks has enough juice. Just not sure if its ok to share power with a compressor? Your thoughts/experience please?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Try it - might be ok, there’s enough current there

[@tompauljones2318]

When making power cables, if I want to make a splitter to run to 2 pedals would you recommend the MC-1525 straight or the MC-1304 angled? For space the straight ends work best for my MXR Iso Brick. But if need be I can make 1 angled work amongst the straight ones.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

I use Kobiconn right angled plugs almost always. Rarely straight connectors. It depends on the diameter of the cable you're using for the DC.

[@tompauljones2318]

@@VertexEffectsInc I was planning on using the cable that Best-Tronics sells.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

@@tompauljones2318 I would just use what comes with your power supply and Best Tronics sells the Kobi Conn right angle connectors for DC power.

[@Mike_Spor]

Pedal space....cant stop the addiction. I just build my boards around my pedals. My current "Scmiddt-array Friendman Mono" custom board clone is 20x40. That's 3 rows of pedals with two rows of space below. its more of pedal showcase and not for travel. I'll send photos when its done.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Nice! Sounds like a cool rig!

[@oleksandrk4853]

Hi Mason, just subscribed today, what a great source for beginners and professionals! Could you give me some links to build my board. I'm looking for power supply cables and connectors (I have strymon power supply) also midi right angle connectors and cables (5pin) I appreciate your time! I found some links below your video but some of them are jot available.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

If you just type/search in KZbin for Vertex DIY Power or Vertex DIY Midi, you’ll find both immediately! Thanks for the support!

[@Diax1324]

What do you think of the EBS flat patch cables? I have a 29 pedals EUNA and I use a pancake-ended coily cable as my main cable, so I need EXTREMELY low profile cables to fit on the effects loop of that unit. Any experience?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

They are soldered, which is good, but it would never really work for anything that I do because you can’t customize them at all, and I don’t find them to be better sounding then what you can make on your own. A square plug is pretty low profile

[@chrisvoigt6895]

I am currently using a Walrus Audio Aetos. What are your thoughts on this Power Supply? (Personally, I LOVE it, but its a thick momma)

[@VertexEffectsInc]

It's a linear power supply - it has it's limitations.

[@jm879]

Question, im kinda stuck in between the pedal train meto 16 and 20. Im not sure if i want to add pedals since i tried mapping out and it fits in the metro 16 but it feels kinda cramped. Would you say i should get the metro 20 just so i have space?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

I don’t really know these platforms to advise - I never use them

[@peterellwood2103]

Nice video

[@VertexEffectsInc]

🙏🙏🙏

[@davy6516]

how can i make my pedal board higher so my power syplly can go under it?

[@evanmiller2579]

I am looking at getting the 10x17 one shown in the video however online, the picture shows an additional support in the middle of the riser which will make it impossible to fit my Fender Engine Room 8 under the riser. Is this middle support removable?

[@eriksonderlon]

I've seen Mason remove the middle support in other build videos of his.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

It's an optional leg, I always remove mine.

[@rodolfoperez744]

Do you have any tips for a board that has 18 pedals and 3 of them are the boss ps6 boss ps5 and whammy rikochet? I use 2 buffer jhs one in the beguine and one in the end and still sucks a lot of tone, what can I Do?

[@TheDilligan]

One weird trick Ive found is that if something is going to be an always-on pedal, you may be able mount it underneath the pedalboard. I've done this with a Keeley compressor and a Boss Noise Suppressor on a Pedaltrain. Also one of the best ways to save space is to simply decide whether or not a pedal reeeeeally needs to be on your board. Like sometimes I want bucket brigade delay, sometimes I want tape delay. Could just get a digital pedal that does both OR, just pick one and deal with it. I also got a Strymon Sunset so that I don't have to have 4 drive pedals on my board. All the flavors are in a smaller footprint.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

All good points!

[@wakjob961]

I guess 6 people don't like or want FREE help and advice. I also have the Shiva 'Wave' chorus pedal...what's your opinion on it? I've tried in front and in the fx loop. Some days I like it, and some days I miss my MXR 234 ;-(

[@VertexEffectsInc]

I like it, I also really like the Neunaber Tri Chorus as well for the TSC sound.

[@riverbard8287]

Have you ever thought about hanging the CIOKS upside down under the riser? 🤔

[@kdub0529]

The MXR patch cables look low profile. Are they soldered? I don't see it in their specs.

[@Jimbob-hp6ud]

I only use 5, Reverb, delay, modulation, distortion and tuner

[@RulgertGhostalker]

the new Boss NS-1X has a 1Meg input impedance, but a 1Kohm output impedance.... but i think 1K is ok, because that should be ok for any input that is considered "high impedance", because that's a 10K minimum.....i mean as long as i am conscious to output into high impedance inputs only.

[@Emm_R_Guitar]

Question is do I do this with a tonex or buy a QC ... How would you run midi switching from a laptop?

[@thesoundpurist]

Good music at the beginning what's that?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

I think it’s either from Tim Marco or Dann Huff

[@Scott__C]

Great info. Why are they called Top Jacks? Isn't the top the part we step on? Seems like it's the back of the pedal to me.

[@oliverdepauw5663]

Seems like its because if the top is the part you step on then all jack positions would be side jacks and it would be harder to differentiate the said pedals jack configuration, could be wrong tho

[@Scott__C]

@@oliverdepauw5663 Not to me. The front is the part toward me, the back is the part away from me, left side and right side. Like if I were standing in front of a house.

[@johoch24]

It's funny how in this video (2:02) he says "DC jack on the back", but then the audio jacks placed next to the DC jack are called 'top jacks'.

[@IndyRockStar]

What type of pedal board buffer would you recommend? I was looking at the JHS Prestige. Any thoughts?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

We have a list of approved buffers in the description. Please look there for our recommended models.

[@rumsfield78]

How do you know if your pedal or tuner has a buffer, and what the range is? Manual?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Manual, or unplug power from it and see if it passes signal when in bypass without power.

[@rumsfield78]

@@VertexEffectsInc I have a Digitech Hardwire poly tuner. I don't think it does. But thanks for the tip. I'll try it out. Btw, I've been hooked on your pods and vids all week. I knew about your pedals, but not your channel. It's awesome!

[@keziahsantamariavillalobos3393]

Uncle Mason, would it be possible to make blue tooth pedals? no cables needed, just synch them all together?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Well we do have wireless, but there are some challenges with impedances and stuff like that there’s currently wireless MIDI but the receivers still need power and require batteries to work - were not there yet practically even with disregarding the electronics side.

[@Pokey7317]

Great video... im curious. How much would is cost for you build a board for me using your pedal board options like the one in this video. Naturally I would have to ship my pedals to you of course. I would want it as small as possible of course. Kinda like the one this video. I basically have an MS3, TUMNUS MINI, SOUL POG, CRY BABY WAH, TUBE SCREAMER, EQ PEDAL. Thats it. Thanks again for the videos and looking forward to the next one.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Not sure, we don’t offer this service for hire - just build a few boards here and there for KZbin tutorials. I think most of the pedalboard builders out there range somewhere between $80 and $200 per hour - plus materials. A lot of the pricing depends on the builders experience and also what the scope of the rig is.

[@Pokey7317]

@@VertexEffectsInc Hey thanks for your quick response... I guess i'm gonna be visiting your website to get some materials... I love how CLEAN your boards are... HERE GOES NUTHIN' LOL

[@VertexEffectsInc]

@@Pokey7317 we're happy to assist as you go and consult on the board - there are options for that over on www.therigdr.com

[@Pokey7317]

@@VertexEffectsInc Cheers man yeah will do for sure. Thanks again

[@stevecrounse1789]

Do you have a recommendation for a mini EQ?

[@Bushdl85]

Boss RC600 as last pedal in the chain, do I need a buffer? I think not?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

What's the impedance, you should have a guideline here on specs in the video.

[@Bushdl85]

Thanks for the reply! Output Impedance Main Output: 1 Kilohm Sub Output 1, 2: 1 Kilohm Recommended Load Impedance Main Output: 10 Kilohms Sub Output 1, 2: 10 Kilohms

[@martijndebonnet4325]

What do you think about Blug's AMP1?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Cool if you can’t use a real amp

[@primobeltran7955]

Do you sell these risers or second tier raise systems?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Yes: www.sweetwater.com/c1106--Vertex_Effects--Pedalboards

[@TheArbiterOfTruth]

Small rig: HX Stomp Dual Switch Polytune Mini Dunlop mini volume 🤘🏾

[@VertexEffectsInc]

No analog is sight!

[@kodykindhart5644]

😭

[@TheArbiterOfTruth]

@@VertexEffectsInc my current rig features HX Stomp, BigSky, TimeFactor, Dunlop Mini volume, External aux switch (for the Stomp) eventually I’m going to add a Jackson Audio Asabi, a TC Electronic Polytune Mini 3 and probably a Morningstar MC6

[@derekdavis8377]

What is the controller being used?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

In the photo? The RJM PBC6X

[@AJbassist]

what would you say the difference between 2314 and 2319

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Diameter and the conductive plastic on the center lead of the 2319. Sonically they’re very close and you can hear them side by side in our patch cable shootout

[@castleanthrax1833]

5. 😎

[@magnusfox777]

I fit 6 mini pedals on a nano board. Use a clip on tuner instead of a pedal too.

[@MK-oz2lf]

Hey Mason, off topic. About the T Drive. I don't have it but I saw your December video about it. What if you put a treble booster or a tube screamer in front of the T Drive in a high gain setting? Can it reign in blood?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

You might have to lower the gain on the pedal to make it work, but yes, it will sound great!

[@MK-oz2lf]

@@VertexEffectsInc I'll search for one. Thanks man

[@waynegram8907]

SP400 square plug looks like they are not very FLAT. What other brands or model numbers are very flat or flatter?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

They're pretty darn flat...any flatter and you'd risk a "short" against the housing.

[@MartinZazpe]

Meanwhile.... in his cave.... he has the largest and biggest pedalboard ever created in order to satisfy his hidden and suppressed addiction 😂

[@VertexEffectsInc]

hahahahaha

[@jackrussellbruce7565]

Best tip for small pedalboards: Overdrive -> Eventide H9 Done.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

That's one way to go :)

[@Cokun-s9i]

Hey everyone.. GO BIG. Buy the biggest pedalboard and put all the pedals lol Yes that is what I am doing right now

[@VertexEffectsInc]

That’s one way to go for sure!

[@harumann]

1 Tip for a smaller pedalboard: Get a Fractal Audio FM3. And you can even get rid of the heavy and bulky Guitar Amplifier :-)

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Showering with a raincoat

[@rondesrosiers2196]

Hi, could you spell out your website so i can check that out? Thanks again.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

www.vertexeffects.com it's also in the description of every video.