I also have a Loar 520 just like the one in the video...mine is a 2012 model that I bought brand new in January of 2013, about a month after I started playing...I got an awesome deal on it, as I paid $400 USD...they now go for anywhere between $550-$600 in the US...properly set up, this mando rocks & has a great tone...I'd put it up against the super expensive models any day...best mandolin in my growing collection...I'd like to get one of thier ones with the fancy inlays, but those are a bit more expensive than I can afford right now...however, I'm starting to learn inlaying & when I get it down, I'll fancy this one up to look way better than thier fancy ones because it'll be my own one of a kind design...you can find decent mandos in the $200-$300 range too, but you'll need an experienced luthier to set it up properly to get the most out of it...in fact, if you don't know how to set up a mando, & if you're just starting out you don't, I'd advise taking any mando you buy & have a good set up done on it...many music stores will do a basic set up for free as long as you buy your mando from them, if you buy from Amazon, you'll need to find someone who can do it for you...it'll be a bit of an added expense, but it can be challenging enough to learn on a mandolin that's set up well & plays great, it can be flat out frustrating on one that has hard action & the intonation is way off on...remember, the name of the game is having fun, that's why they call it 'playing' music & not 'working' music...Lol! & if you're mando is poorly set up, no matter what kind you wind up getting, you'll be having more struggles than fun...👌🏿😎👍🏿
@RockPopMandolin3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Great points. And good to see another happy Loar player! lol!
@Road_Rash3 жыл бұрын
I'm absolutely ecstatic about mine...in fact, that's part of what attracted me to your channel was not only to see how easy your videos were to follow without tablature in front of me, and I must compliment you on a very easy to follow style, but the main thing was that you were playing a mandolin just like mine...great little instruments...👌🏿😎👍🏿
@Road_Rash3 жыл бұрын
Also, you may want to have that neck adjusted, because it's common for these to come from the factory with the truss rod tightened in the absolute wrong direction, then have the frets leveled & recrowned & that fret buzz will be history! I'm going to lower my action some more & even scallop the neck & refret it with smaller fret wire to improve it's playability as well...I like the set up on yours... I named mine Woody because of the pick hitting the neck extension & sounding like a woodpecker...Lol!
@RockPopMandolin3 жыл бұрын
@@Road_Rash Good suggestions. Might have my friend the luthier look at it. He’s the one who did the work on the fretboard extension.
@Road_Rash3 жыл бұрын
I also have that same tuner that's on your mando, it buzzes a little too, but not loud enough for you to really hear unless you happen to be propped up in bed practicing while watching tv like I do sometimes & the peghead is much closer to your ears...Lol!
@tobywilliams4143 жыл бұрын
For anyone looking, may I suggest Banjo Ben Clark. You can buy from his online store. I bought this same Loar Mandolin at a great price and it comes to you completely setup by Ben’s Luthier.
@RockPopMandolin3 жыл бұрын
Excellent suggestion. Banjo Ben's store looks great! He's got some Loars on there for just over $300!
@devlieg723 жыл бұрын
The best mandolin is the one you've got. Once you surpass the the mechanical abilities of the one you've got it's time to move to another one. When you are better than the instrument it may be time to move to another, but a better mando won't make you a better player.
@RockPopMandolin3 жыл бұрын
Good advice. Thanks!
@jimwrathall5323 Жыл бұрын
But a bad mandolin can be so discouraging that people give up early.
@mrtambourineman6107 Жыл бұрын
Same with any instrument , a good player can make any old instrument sound great, whereas an expensive instrument won't sound anything but awful in the wrong hands.
@johnjriggsarchery24572 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see people pay more attention to oval holes especially for beginners and intermediate players and prices. This need to have a strong "chop" isn't the biggest concern because most people won't be performing Molly and Tenbrooks on stage. Lower cost ovals sound way richer than lower cost F holes, and those scrolls on that Loar are good for strap hangers and paying more for looks, but that's about it.
@donaldfewell89082 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@kcd21202 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment - I’m an electric guitar player who much prefers warmer tones so it sounds like an oval is what I might prefer.
@billanderson55093 жыл бұрын
They have Mando to start playing on for less than 600 $ you can get one for half that your gonna scare away less well healed... Most of us playing Mando will never have thousands of dollars for those beautiful high end . I would rather have a 300 dollar Mando set up well. Than not have one . They are easy to set up.
@RockPopMandolin3 жыл бұрын
True. As I said in the video, my first mando cost less than $100. But it sounded terrible and was difficult to play. Most people would probably give up playing a really cheap mando early on. So something a little more expensive, say 300-800, would be worth the money in the long run.
@robertshorthill41533 жыл бұрын
Bill Anderson. I re-freted my '93 Flatiron with better frets and put on Grover tuners. I worked at Flatiron for several years and honestly say the shop used the cheapest tuners and fret material they could find in those days ( till '94). They knew frets would need to be replaced and better tuners down the road, but the woods were the best quality anywhere. Gibson and Flatiron had too many problems I can't go into here, but it was the best job I've ever had. I built myself a nice A-5 that is a mid range mando and probably all I'll ever need. Bob in Montana
@wiltonmungo41793 жыл бұрын
I also have a Loar LM 520 that I bought second-hand for about $350 USD; it's my first one and has been a great starter instrument. So happy to hear from other Loar owners, they don't have a great rep on certain mandolin forums for some reason
@RockPopMandolin3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I know. I don’t know why, either. Mine is a great starter instrument too. Enjoy playing it!
@barabarahito3 ай бұрын
I've noticed that, I've seen mixed comments, I thonl some of their earlier instruements were not so good for some reason, one or two duds got out in the wild, and others have told me the laquer is too thick. I don't have that much experience to judge by but mt The Loar is definitely a step up from my Ozark f model.
@శతకహేమముఆటవెలఁది3 жыл бұрын
You sound like a modest and humble man sir. Sincere in your words.🙏 Excellent technical analysis.🌹
@RockPopMandolin3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@barabarahito3 ай бұрын
Also in Japan here: I recently got a The Loar LM-600-vn second hand, pleasently surprised to be honest, it's fairly similar to what you are playing in tone and easy to play. Not overly powerful but really quite sweet sounding. Have you tried one?
@RockPopMandolin3 ай бұрын
No, but if it’s as good as my Loar, I’m sure it’s nice.
@ananthavenkatanarasimhacha90463 жыл бұрын
Excellently explained about the tips for purchasing Best Mandolin
@brians718116 күн бұрын
Starter mandolin for only $600- $700. Damn I must be old. I remember when I first started playing guitar in 1980 you could get a pretty kickass Stratocaster for $400 and a Les Paul for $500. I'm going to start buying up instruments now, keep them in cases and resell all of them in 20 years 😁
@RockPopMandolin16 күн бұрын
@@brians7181 Hah, good idea. But I was playing guitar in the early 80’s too and don’t remember Strats or Les Pauls that cheap. At least 800-1,000 where I was from. My first American Strat in the mid 80’s cost $1,200.
@brians718116 күн бұрын
@@RockPopMandolin in CT you could get a decent strat for $400 in 1980. My friend bought a Les Paul custom for$600 then a couple years later the knucklehead traded it in for a Kramer because it had a Floyd rose. I bought used back then, I was too poor back then. My main guitar was a parts caster.
@robertshorthill41533 жыл бұрын
I recently, about two years ago, put Grovers on my old Flatiron A-5. They are from StewMac. They cost around 60 bucks, if I remember right. Waverly machines are about 500+. The tuners that came on the Flatiron we're the cheapest Schaller made. They came on all the models from Flatiron. I know, because I worked there for years, till they kicked everyone out around '94. Anyway, the Grovers are a big improvement. Smooth, easy to tune and don't give me any trouble at all. That's all I need. Waverly tuners are the very best, but not the price. BTW, Flatirons are now made in China and are a shadow of the ones we made until '94. Cheers, great video. Bob
@RockPopMandolin3 жыл бұрын
Thanks and cheers for sharing your expertise with us!
@ascar1nthasky0311 ай бұрын
3:42 way to start playing the Beatles! Excellent song choice!
@charleshill96493 жыл бұрын
Any experience / care to comment on the Loar 520 vs Eastman 315. Both China made, approx same price new. For bluegrass...
@RockPopMandolin3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I prefer the Loar. I’ve tried many Eastmans and never found one that sounds or plays better than my Loar.
@fanooch110 ай бұрын
Got into Mandolin. Bought a Collings F5 and and Eastman 615. Build wise they were both beautifully made. The Eastman was just as flawlessly built as the Collings. The difference was the tonewood used. The Collings had a sound that was just fantastic. My playing didnt justify the Collings. I sold it and am as happy as can be with the Eastman. Beautifully made and perfect for my playing.
@RockPopMandolin10 ай бұрын
Nice. Yes, the wood makes a huge difference in sound.
@fluke808state42 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear your les Paul recovered from surgery BTW
@ananthavenkatanarasimhacha90463 жыл бұрын
Kindly let me know the name or brand of the Mandolin you have shown as I could'nt have grasped your accent.
@RockPopMandolin3 жыл бұрын
Mine? It’s called The Loar.
@Ravenscaller11 ай бұрын
Specifically it is a The Loar 520 which is the first level that is all solid wood. They have a lower 310 which has a solid top and plywood back and sides. In Oct 2023 the 310 Honey Creek is about $350 on Reverb. The 520 is $600. They both come with an optional pickup that adds another $100. Don't waste money on a pick up unless you really plan to perform with it. Having said that I have never played a Loar but would consider the solid wood model.
@ananthavenkatanarasimhacha90463 жыл бұрын
Sir, Could you please let me know the price of the 5 Mandolins In Indian Currency and place where available?
@RockPopMandolin3 жыл бұрын
No idea, mate. Sorry.
@zoomankat Жыл бұрын
what's a starter mandolin I have a Harley Benton mandolin that's a Keeper Mandolin HBMA 100 VS
@brianhunley53023 жыл бұрын
I just recently purchased a loar 590. Seems pretty decent so far
@RockPopMandolin3 жыл бұрын
Cool! I'm sure you'll love it.
@danielbrowniel10 ай бұрын
I have a mitchell that is very cheaply made but, I've learned a lot on it. So my new rule for buying a new instrument, get a jar, put a dollar in the jar every time you play. And what you have at the end of a couple years or so is what you deserve to get.
@Cristasphoto2 жыл бұрын
I found a Kentucky km200 a style for 140 at a pawn shop.is my first mandolin. Im really liking lovin' it. I installed a new nut as the nut was chipped and wouldn't hold the Top bass strings the nut was only like seven dollars so Yeah I think I got a great deal m
@RockPopMandolin2 жыл бұрын
Kentucky makes quality mandolins. I like them!
@Cristasphoto2 жыл бұрын
@@RockPopMandolin It sounds really loud and good. Ty
@cicelys32873 жыл бұрын
What was the tune at 3:45?
@RockPopMandolin3 жыл бұрын
Norwegian Wood by the Beatles.
@nickroberts69843 жыл бұрын
Very informative ! 🙂🎶 You play beautifully ! 🏆
@RockPopMandolin3 жыл бұрын
Oh, thanks so much for your kind words!
@jimwrathall5323 Жыл бұрын
I am amazed that in the US, serious mandolins are usually assumed to be copies of the Gibson F. Or perhaps even the Gibson A. In other parts of the world, The F type is almost never seen. Brazil has a very long history of mandolin playing, and their mandolins are based on a style similar to Portuguese teardrop instruments, vaguely similar to the A style, although predating Gibson by hundreds of years. Brazilian mandolins have modified that shape considerably, to the extent that you would never think that it is an A style. Then there are the Italian mandolins that have a gourd shape. Modern Israeli Mandolins have the teardrop shape, but extensive construction changes have been made to the bracing, and sound hole(s). Outside the US, "F" holes are never seen, sound holes are round or oval.
@RockPopMandolin Жыл бұрын
Good points but not entirely true. F style mandolins are common here in Japan, as are the traditional bowl-back instruments. But there are some terrific builders here making F style instruments. A styles are not common.
@sukhwinder54483 жыл бұрын
👌👌👌👌👌
@erichodgson10203 жыл бұрын
What's your opinion on Denver Mandolins? I bought one as a starter and I personally love the quality for the price.
@RockPopMandolin3 жыл бұрын
Cool. Never heard of them. Thanks for the tip.
@erichodgson10203 жыл бұрын
@@RockPopMandolin they're a low end one, I paid 165.00 canadian for the Denver A Style and honestly for how cheap it was I'm impressed with quality of the sound it produces.
@RockPopMandolin3 жыл бұрын
@@erichodgson1020 Very nice. How is the action/playability?
@erichodgson10203 жыл бұрын
@@RockPopMandolin over all the action and playability are great. Easy to fret notes and chords and it has a great tone too. The tension of the strings isn't bad either. A very comfortable instruments.
@fluke808state42 жыл бұрын
This looks like a good one,I'll check em out
@RockPopMandolin2 жыл бұрын
Cool!
@fluke808state42 жыл бұрын
Your old one sounded good to me!
@RockPopMandolin2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@battlehrfred3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, great honest video! A Few Questions?>>>> what type of strings (brand and item #) do you use? where did you get this "cage" you have on the back of this mandolin??, l have this same loar 520 as this and it came with a builtin fishman. I ordered it from the local Independently owned music Store and had to wait for it to come from USA and am please with it. I cannot find this Cage to purchase, in Newfoundland or anywhere in Canada, ty! 100-100
@RockPopMandolin3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate. Ah, Newfoundland. That's one place I've always wanted to visit. Looks lovely. As for my mando "cage," it's actually called a Tone-Gard. If you can't find it locally, you can order it from Tony at www.tone-gard.com. I ordered mine that way and he shipped it to me in Japan. So he could certainly ship you one, too. As for strings, I use D'Addario EJ-74s. You can find the link in the comments below my videos.
@battlehrfred3 жыл бұрын
@@RockPopMandolin .TY for your comment on this lovely Newfoundland ( lots of Irish/Scottish/English and many mixed cultures over this present 20 years, it is lots like Ireland. I have travelled many places on this earth, but the hospitality at Newfoundland, is second to none.!Thanking you for this great information! I will surely order this Tone- guard. I am a new beginner and i was told that GHS - LS250 was good tone and preferred to me by a Luther .this is what i have used for 12 months now, but I will go to EJ-74s to see the difference in sound ty Sir!! Keep posting great honest videos!!
@RockPopMandolin3 жыл бұрын
@@battlehrfred Awesome! Enjoy playing the mandolin!
@shoer51513 жыл бұрын
Great info I want to upgrade from my beginner
@RockPopMandolin3 жыл бұрын
Go for it!
@andycochrane4131 Жыл бұрын
Why do Americans yell?
@RockPopMandolin Жыл бұрын
I don’t know. I’m not American. Why don’t you ask them? Lol!
@brians718116 күн бұрын
Probably because the rest of the world is asleep and needs to be woken up.
@mirekklemens6622 жыл бұрын
Thank you my friend !! I,m your New Subscriber. Mandolin "Ibanez M 700S F-Style is good ??? Please me know. I'm going to learn on this instrument. My regards from New York.
@RockPopMandolin2 жыл бұрын
Hi and thanks. Don’t know that model but Ibanez makes good instruments. Have fun with it.
@Derekmartin20 Жыл бұрын
I have that one also. They are built good and mine stays in tune. Of course I may have got lucky.
@MatthewZmusician2093 жыл бұрын
I had a Mitchell AM100VS A-Style Mandolin, and it had no sustain, the frets buzzed a lot so I had to raise the action crazy high which made it very hard and It hurt to play it. Also the neck is thin which made chords impossible.
@RockPopMandolin3 жыл бұрын
Sounds painful.
@fliegerdefunes7758 Жыл бұрын
My first Mandolin had cost 35€ and it sounds actually not bad. It's a portugese style mando and It just got some new strings. It is ofcourse not the best one but I like it and I think it's nearly as good as one for like 300€. My second one is an very old italien style mando from around the 1920. it's somehow playable but it mostly hangs on the wall. I'm from germany and Ig they were both made here. there also were some mandolin orchestras here and I know that my old one was played in one in the 40's. I may wanna gat an good F-style mando cause they look awesome but atm I don't really have money for it cause I play some other Instruments as well but if i see an old mando for cheap I will buy anotherone soon :)
@RockPopMandolin Жыл бұрын
That’s great! I would love to get a European style mandolin myself.
@iangarner88572 жыл бұрын
I've just bought a Tanglewood Union Wine Red Mandolin. This is my first mandolin. It cost £149 which is around 200 us dollars. I didn't want something so cheap it was unplayable but I couldn't stretch much higher than that. Is the Tanglewood Union range a good entry level mandolin ? There is a video on here of a guy saying it's great so I am looking forward trying it .
@RockPopMandolin2 жыл бұрын
I have no idea, mate. Never heard of that brand. But if it works for you, that's great!
@iangarner88572 жыл бұрын
@@RockPopMandolin Tanglewood? They make great quality guitars which is why I went for the mandolin also being a guitar player lol I will post a message on here and let you know how I get on
@RockPopMandolin2 жыл бұрын
@@iangarner8857 Cool! Thanks!
@karinberryman2009 Жыл бұрын
I just looked at a Tanglewood a few days ago, and fell in love.
@wdmore2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. It is a big help. What brand of strap are you using? I would like to get one. Thanks
@RockPopMandolin2 жыл бұрын
My strap is made by a Japanese guitar maker called K. Yairi.
@taranakiben3 жыл бұрын
hello, please can you do some nivarna and AC/DC tuturiols thanks
@RockPopMandolin3 жыл бұрын
Okay, I’ll see what I can do!
@taranakiben3 жыл бұрын
thanks
@oldmaterizz45163 жыл бұрын
@@RockPopMandolin where did ya sleep last night, its a song, nirvana
@RockPopMandolin3 жыл бұрын
@@oldmaterizz4516 Cool. I will record About A Girl this month.
@alliepetty1005 Жыл бұрын
You got the nail on the head with your discussion of the action. I have one that has such tough action I just can't make any good sound come out of it
@RockPopMandolin Жыл бұрын
Yes, that’s very frustrating, isn’t it?
@apparameswaran17923 жыл бұрын
What is the price in rupee of five tip mandolin??...
@RockPopMandolin3 жыл бұрын
Don’t know. Maybe you could check and let us know.
@leesanna7835 Жыл бұрын
Great review, thank you so much, very helpful 🙏
@RockPopMandolin Жыл бұрын
You’re most welcome.
@dominicjohnson7695 Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the video, I’m looking at mandolins for me to start learning. I’m getting a Washburn m1k mandolin. Nothing special, just wondering if it’s a good starting mandolin
@RockPopMandolin Жыл бұрын
Don’t know Washburns. But they make decent guitars, I think. Good luck with it!
@dominicjohnson7695 Жыл бұрын
@@RockPopMandolin thank you for your reply. I will let you know!
@RockPopMandolin Жыл бұрын
@@dominicjohnson7695 Yes! Please do.
@garyhondel90202 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing these tips! I just purchased a Washburn which should arrive any day now. I am curious to know about your strap. Would you mind telling me where I can find a similar mandolin strap to the one you use in this video?
@RockPopMandolin2 жыл бұрын
Sure, but not sure if you can find them outside of Japan. It's made by a Japanese guitar company called K Yairi. Here's an English website. yairi.com
@garyhondel90202 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’ll check it out
@leesanna7835 Жыл бұрын
Which do you rate higher at comparably priced, 'The Loar' or 'Kentucky'?
@RockPopMandolin Жыл бұрын
Good question. Kentucky makes such a wide range of mandolins. My friend has a higher priced Kentucky and it’s really nice. Better than a Loar. But it’s in the $2000 range. I’d says Loars are better than lower-end Kentuckys in the $1000 range.
@leesanna7835 Жыл бұрын
@@RockPopMandolin thank you so much 🙏
@jamesreed19692 жыл бұрын
I started with Kentucky, relatively cheap, but solid wood mandolin. My current one is made by Nick Lenski, owner and luthier of Brier Road Guitars shop from Berkshires in western Massachusetts. I love it! It has unique sound. The sides and back plate are made out of hardwood padauk. I mostly play classical music on it.
@RockPopMandolin2 жыл бұрын
Yes, a good friend has a Kentucky. Nice instrument. But your Lenski sounds nice. Enjoy!
@jamesreed19692 жыл бұрын
@@RockPopMandolin thank you!
@donaldfewell89082 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Are there mandolins that have a wider than average neck? I have trouble playing average and smaller than average necks.
@RockPopMandolin2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Mandolin necks can vary in width.
@donaldfewell89082 жыл бұрын
@@RockPopMandolin Thanks!
@philparrish69142 жыл бұрын
This $800 mandolin does not sound near as good as my $150 Savannah SF-200 that I bought a few years ago. The Savannah required very little setup and plays very well.
@manguydude905 Жыл бұрын
Get your ears checked lol the Savannah SF-200 is cheap Chinese trash
@ev25zv Жыл бұрын
@@manguydude905 So is this one, lmao.
@manguydude905 Жыл бұрын
Have you played a Savannah? This thing is like a Lloyd Loar compared to a Savannah lmao
@casey17w Жыл бұрын
Hi. Does this have a radius fretboard or is it flat?
@RockPopMandolin Жыл бұрын
It’s flat.
@casey17w Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Good work on the vid.
@RockPopMandolin Жыл бұрын
@@casey17w Thanks!
@sukhdeosingh79315 ай бұрын
Mondolan ka price
@RockPopMandolin4 ай бұрын
Arigato gozaimasu!
@edwardbrogan73413 жыл бұрын
Starter for that $$$$$$ ?. No way n from CHINA ? nope !
@RockPopMandolin3 жыл бұрын
Many “American” instruments are made in China mate, such as Kentucky, Eastman, Northfield, Washburn, etc. Some are excellent instruments. But to each his own! Cheers!
@WtfYoutube_YouSuck2 жыл бұрын
I just bought my first mandolin in Tokyo! Where is the jam session?
@RockPopMandolin2 жыл бұрын
What the Dickens!
@WtfYoutube_YouSuck2 жыл бұрын
@@RockPopMandolin I'm an upright bass player in yokosuka. Been wanting a mando forever. Found a 1969 Gibson F5 in Ochanomizu and had to buy it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmXPZJ6Ihqdmqbc&ab_channel=WOODMANGUITAR This is the exact one.
@RockPopMandolin2 жыл бұрын
@@WtfKZbin_YouSuck Looks sweet! Sounds great, too. Enjoy! The Dickens in Ebisu has jams every month.
@WtfYoutube_YouSuck2 жыл бұрын
@@RockPopMandolin Thank you, Sir! I look forward to learning from your videos and maybe see you there!