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History in the Dark

History in the Dark

Күн бұрын

A good underdog story is always amazing, and in the history of railroads many locomotives and multiple units have been built that weren't meant to do a whole lot. Whether they were poorly designed at first, or simply became technically obsolete, these five trains totally beat out all expectations set for them.
0:00 - Intro
0:51 - Namaqualand 0-6-2 Clara Class
4:16 - USRA 2-8-8-2
7:13 - PKP class EN57
10:01 - LSWR O2 class
15:44 - BR Standard Class 8 Duke of Gloucester
"The Namaqualand 0-6-2 Clara Class of 1890 was a South African steam locomotive from the pre-Union era in the Cape of Good Hope."
"The USRA 2-8-8-2 was a USRA standard class of steam locomotive designed under the control of the United States Railroad Administration, the nationalized railroad system in the United States during World War I. These locomotives were of 2-8-8-2 wheel arrangement in the Whyte notation, or (1'D)'D1' in UIC classification. A total of 106 locomotives were built to this plan for the USRA; postwar, it became a de facto standard design."
"EN57 (manufacturer's designation: Pafawag 5B/6B) is an electric multiple unit used by the Polish railway operator (PKP). It was built for suburban and long-distance services. Presently it is used by Przewozy Regionalne (Polregio), Łódzka Kolej Aglomeracyjna, SKM Trójmiasto, Koleje Dolnośląskie, Koleje Śląskie and Koleje Mazowieckie companies in Poland."
"The LSWR O2 class is a class of 0-4-4T steam locomotive designed for the London and South Western Railway by William Adams. Sixty were constructed during the late nineteenth century. They were also the last steam engines to work on the Isle of Wight, with the final two being withdrawn in 1967."
"The BR Standard Class 8 was a class of a single 4-6-2 Pacific steam locomotive designed by Robert Riddles for use by British Railways. Only the prototype was constructed, named Duke of Gloucester. Constructed at Crewe Works in 1954, the Duke, as it is popularly known, was a replacement for the destroyed LMS Princess Royal Class locomotive number 46202 Princess Anne, which was involved in the Harrow and Wealdstone rail crash of 1952."
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@mikeymikey4186
@mikeymikey4186 Жыл бұрын
The EN57s became an icon in Poland, and can confirm, you have atleast 2 Polish fans 🇵🇱🩶❤
@TryboBike
@TryboBike Жыл бұрын
Confirm. My corpse will be put into the grave, yet good 'ol EN57 will remain.
@racingraptor4758
@racingraptor4758 Жыл бұрын
3. I love kibelki:)
@anzebeton1869
@anzebeton1869 Жыл бұрын
In Slovenia they're known as Gomulka. The only train I was able to fall asleep to. Right until the radiator under my seat caught fire.
@wilque6324
@wilque6324 Жыл бұрын
4 polish fans!!!
@KristijanH
@KristijanH Жыл бұрын
@@anzebeton1869 ko bi vsaj lahko relejtu
@maciekkra539
@maciekkra539 Жыл бұрын
Polish rail nut here. I enjoy your channel. Finally the EN57 got some american recognition:) traveled on these things growing up in Poland and when visiting on vacation nowdays. Anyone hungry or curious for old style MU travel should experience these while still available, before they all get modified. Starting with being able to open the windows and hear real unmuffled sounds of steel wheel on steel rail on mainline trip, plus all other sounds of old electrical relays knocking and compressor work, you can't beat the experience. You should also make more parts with some other polish stock, like the EU07 class four axle universal electrics. They originally came from Great Britain in the form of EU06 series (20 built in 1962). With Polish also buying the license to manufacture copies, few hundred EU07s were build and they are still in front line mainline service. Greetings from Antracite country of eastern Pennsylvania:)
@szymekstormtymczasowe1730
@szymekstormtymczasowe1730 Жыл бұрын
Now he can just copy your text to his video :)
@maciekkra539
@maciekkra539 Жыл бұрын
@@szymekstormtymczasowe1730 No problem:) as the matter of fact polish "Sputnik" ET21 electric would be even better candidate for the next part...and i expect "Rocky" theme music as an introduction😃
@retrogamelover2012
@retrogamelover2012 Жыл бұрын
I actually saw the Duke of Gloucester at Crewe station, once. Ended up in the Crewe Heritage center there, possibly for some tinkering, and after a while, I saw the engine pulling out from the sidings, and I rushed over to the platform where it was standing.
@thetechnocrat4979
@thetechnocrat4979 Жыл бұрын
Duke's story was genuinely inspiring
@maritaflores1061
@maritaflores1061 Жыл бұрын
Who's Duke
@AbbeyYard
@AbbeyYard Жыл бұрын
"That would never suit his grace."
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis Жыл бұрын
@@maritaflores1061 71000 Duke of Gloucester.
@DKQuagmire
@DKQuagmire Жыл бұрын
@@AbbeyYard "Engines come. Engines go. Grandpuff goes on forever!"
@thetechnocrat4979
@thetechnocrat4979 Жыл бұрын
@@AbbeyYard Loving the Railway Series references
@Lex_Illovici
@Lex_Illovici Жыл бұрын
If you want another South African steamer to look into. I'd recommend the South African Railways 4-8-4 Class 26 (Red Devil). It's a class 25NC that got rebuilt in 1981 with TONS of modern improvements. It's a very interesting story.
@IndustrialParrot2816
@IndustrialParrot2816 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes red devil has very good efficiency
@miniak9593
@miniak9593 Жыл бұрын
Oh hey it's the guy from XSR
@MrJediKJ
@MrJediKJ Жыл бұрын
EN-57 is the longest running/produced EMU in the world. They were called Kibel (Crapper) by railway workers due to stink coming out from onboard toilet. Had opportunity to going onboard of original and modernized one. Original ones were horrible, modernized ones are very modern and quite comfortable.
@wondermenel2811
@wondermenel2811 Жыл бұрын
the OG ones had style
@maxart3392
@maxart3392 Жыл бұрын
They were introduced in the mid-1960s in Slovenia (and some on a few lines in Croatia; however, Slovenia and Croatia were both part of Yugoslavia back then) and they were hated by the passengers from the first moment until 2021 when the last one was retired. They were uncomfortable, shaky even where the tracks were in good condition and not very reliable. And yes, the toilets were stinking and they could be smelled in passenger cabins as well. And they were never modernized. They were nicknamed "Gomulka" after the Polish president of the era. No fond memories of them. One question: aren't they by any chance based on some pre-WW2 German S-Bahn trains?
@racingraptor4758
@racingraptor4758 Жыл бұрын
@@maxart3392 they were loselly based on pre war EW51 which was made partially with british components. But 57 is basicaly our own construction.
@johnd8892
@johnd8892 Жыл бұрын
The EN-57 might soon surpass the 65 years in normal service of the Australian Victorian Railways Tait train Melbourne EMUs that were in electric service from 1919 to 1984 with about ten years of previous steam hauled service prior to that ; kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4TceGujhd-Kp8U One set of seven carriages has returned to preserved mainline fan trip usage recently. With the carriages in the set built between 1910 and 1918 it would have to be the oldest preserved EMU allowed on mainline use in the world. KZbin has numerous videos on them by searching for Tait Train.
@johnd8892
@johnd8892 Жыл бұрын
Tait train running in Melbourne last weekend as booked out nostalgia runs attracting lots of the general public who remember riding in them : kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGmxp4xuib6iiJo Posted on KZbin just an hour ago.
@rogerbond2244
@rogerbond2244 Жыл бұрын
Cannot imagine how long you spend on dreaming up all the new angles for lists, let alone researching and converting imperial to metric or vice versa... Trust us, your devoted viewers, it's all worthwhile. Thanks to you and your global network of helpful suggestions I am continually learning about rail-based stuff that has somehow eluded me for over a half-century.
@loganwirth4146
@loganwirth4146 Жыл бұрын
So essentially the Duke of Gloucester is henry the green engine in real-life, wonderful storie
@robertwilloughby8050
@robertwilloughby8050 Жыл бұрын
Oh, you should do the LSWR O2's big (and I mean big!) brother, the M7. Despite early stability problems, they gave sterling service for many years, and some are preserved. Much loved, the M7's first rejigged the LSWR's commuter service, then proved to be excellent in cross-country service.
@someasiandude2008
@someasiandude2008 Жыл бұрын
the O2 classes were basically working in their own sodor, a steam safe haven
@Rocker-1234
@Rocker-1234 Жыл бұрын
frrrrr, the fact they survived through diesel despite all the amazing little diesels that came out of the hayday of diesel is impressive. i lowkey wish i could step back in time and go see the isle during the transition, while the mainland was moving away from steam but the isles little stream heart was still burning bright. i imagine it wouldve been an amazing sight
@marcleslac2413
@marcleslac2413 9 ай бұрын
And it was not visited by a certain, american railroad ceo, I think we know who, the one with a certain, chainsaw.
@wondermenel2811
@wondermenel2811 Жыл бұрын
The EN57s are nicknamed "Toilets"
@KristijanH
@KristijanH Жыл бұрын
We called them "gomulka"
@wondermenel2811
@wondermenel2811 Жыл бұрын
@@KristijanH i dont know where but in one of the countries of export they had that nickname
@KristijanH
@KristijanH Жыл бұрын
@@wondermenel2811 interesting we named them after the company ceo or something like that can't quite remember, also wasn't even around at the time they were made or highly used.
@wondermenel2811
@wondermenel2811 Жыл бұрын
@@KristijanH gomulka was the man in charge of poland at the time
@ChrisCooper312
@ChrisCooper312 Жыл бұрын
Actually the EN57 type layout is very popular with none other than our old favourite, British Rail. Most of the British Rail overhead powered EMUs were built Driving Trailer- Motor - (sometimes trailer) - Driving Trailer. Whilst the Southern Railway went for Motor-Trailer-Trailer-Motor for their designs and BR kept it for derivatives, when they built a series of entirely new build trains in the 60s they too were DT - M - T - DT (the exception being one series which used the old layout since they were intended to haul or push 4 or 8 underpowered trailers and needed twice the motors).
@genesisrailfan1507
@genesisrailfan1507 Жыл бұрын
Duke of Gloucester reminds me of Henry as both were at first pathetic and a bad runner and then later became big chads of the rails.
@quillmaurer6563
@quillmaurer6563 11 ай бұрын
I momentarily pondered if Henry might have been inspired by the Duke, but I believe that story about Henry's re-fit was written before the Duke's restoration. Henry's re-fit was actually far more substantial, a new firebox if I remember right, while the Duke needed just a few quite minor changes.
@AtkataffTheAlpha
@AtkataffTheAlpha Жыл бұрын
British Rail really didn't care for the poor Duke. It's always good when people who aren't part of some big companies do better than the people who are. Sometimes, we need to slow down and think outside the company rather than being in the company trying to fix something flawed. Railfans took the win in saving Duke of Gloucester and fixed the problems thus improving the performance and creating what could've been. Maybe making British Rail slightly open their eyes seeing what could've been one of their finest express locomotives
@modelyh0
@modelyh0 Жыл бұрын
Czech nickname for EN57 is dřevolino which is translated to woodlino. It's because the seats inside are made out of wood and the emu is so horribly made. Probably the most hated train that ever ran here. Czech drivers even refused to drive it because it was hard to control and unsafe
@Tiger351
@Tiger351 Жыл бұрын
The EN 57 EMU's will need to stay in service a while longer to beat the NSW railways A.E Tulloch built EMU's, there were still T&E units built in 1924 and first batch of production units built in 1927 still running in 1993, the last of the '24 sets was only withdrawn in January '94 (I worked on them in the years prior to withdrawal).
@ALCO-C855-fan
@ALCO-C855-fan 5 ай бұрын
No. 1 was so beautiful, you had me close to crying. LONG LIVE THE DUKE!!!!!!!!!! 💖 🥰 😸
@christopherspringer2764
@christopherspringer2764 4 ай бұрын
The Duke of Gloucester is one of my favorite underdog stories, and I must say, your impeccable editing certainly did it justice! 20:03 gave me goosebumps.
@jamiebray8532
@jamiebray8532 Жыл бұрын
The last train is absolutely beautiful ❤️. What a great piece of engineering art 🎨. To see her belching smoke with all the coaches behind her, WOW 😳 what a beautiful site.❤️
@alanwatson5929
@alanwatson5929 Жыл бұрын
For locomotive longevity try the North Eastern Railway (UK) class E1 designed by Wilson Worsdell. This was a development of his older brother Thomas Worsdell class E an 0-6-0 shunter of 1886. The first E1 was built in 1898 and these continued to be built in small batches by both LNER and British Railways as the class J72 until 1951. A 53 year production run with almost no changes to the design!!!!!
@Simerali
@Simerali Жыл бұрын
considering how old this design is, it's pretty remarkable this 0-4-4 design from the late 1800's is only a thousand lbf less powerful than a BR Class 2 tank engine roughly
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 Жыл бұрын
Due to the Modernisation Plan of 1955 , which was already being created when 71000 entered service, tge Railway Executive of the BTC had no intention of spending money on rectifying the problems of a steam locomotive that would soon be history. 71000 was a locomotive that they had been forced to build after the Harrow accident. This coupled with the Clean Air Act 1956 (a result of the Great Smog of 1952) meant that coal fired steam locomotive's days were numbered (Section 19 of the Act applies to steam locomotives producing excessive smoke). This act also meant the BTC had to accelerate the Modernisation Plan which meant that they ended up with a fleet of rubbish diesels and a few great ones.
@francescogiuseppearagona1109
@francescogiuseppearagona1109 4 ай бұрын
If you're looking for engines that broke all expectations look no further than: - FS class E626, which is a pathological case of "if ain't broken don't touch it", one of the first class of DC electric locomotive in italy they were built starting in the 1920s, and were retired in 1999, but a local regional railway in italy had been using them until 2015 for freight trains (and probably still is). Many were preserved, some of them are still operational. - FS ALn 668. Originally designed in the early '60s the group had several revisions until the late '80s. Many units were sold to Turkey, Swden and Mexico. In Italy ALn 668s are still in operation, but about to get phased out. - DRB class 52. Ok they have been gon for a while, but in Bosnia they're still using them to shunt lignite from the mine to a power station in Tuzla. If you want a nice video don't look further than kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpbSc2uwlshgea8si=Fbm5cN79bxGzmRdP Enjoy
@tractorjunkco9431
@tractorjunkco9431 Жыл бұрын
That last story was heartwarming.
@mattevans4377
@mattevans4377 Жыл бұрын
To be fair to BR, the steam engine they ended up going with for the NRM, probably wasn't what they would have originally suspected. That class, the 9F, could also have been said to defy expectations.
@quillmaurer6563
@quillmaurer6563 11 ай бұрын
Had the Duke gone to the NRM, it probably would have been on static display as an interesting failure forever, maybe steamed up occasionally but still as a lousy but surviving locomotive, preserved in original condition. As it was, saved from scrap and restored, there was the opportunity to remedy the construction flaws ... then hot rod the crap out of it. So had it gone to the NRM, the hidden potential probably would have never been known.
@jazeroth322
@jazeroth322 Жыл бұрын
The Duke, never heard about that train, but she is awesome! Thanks for the excellent vid
@mikesanders5433
@mikesanders5433 Жыл бұрын
As always Dark, quality content 👏🏻 Also the absolute butchering of some names is sublime 😂
@mikebrown3772
@mikebrown3772 Жыл бұрын
The previous LSWR tank engines which "wouldn't do" were the Beattie Well Tanks. The last two of these also ran until 1962 when they were 88 years old before being withdrawn by British Railways and being preserved.
@johnd8892
@johnd8892 Жыл бұрын
The O2 and even the Beattie well tanks were not quite as long lived as the New South Wales Railways A class , later Z19, from 1877, built by Beyer Peacock in Manchester. Reaching 96 years in normal service into 1971 right near the centre of Sydney at Darling Harbour. A great high standard vid on them : kzbin.info/www/bejne/iWHMq4eieLl7gMU Lucky a TV news director was train interested and took some very professional films of them in their last year's of usage as shunters (switchers). The late 1971 withdrawal meant we still have some of the crews of them to interview.
@johnd8892
@johnd8892 Жыл бұрын
The O2 was not quite as long lived as the New South Wales Railways A class , later Z19, from 1877. Reaching 96 years in normal service into 1971 right near the centre of Sydney at Darling Harbour. A great high standard vid on them : kzbin.info/www/bejne/iWHMq4eieLl7gMU Lucky a TV news director was train interested and took some very professional films of them in their last year's of usage as shunters (switchers). The late 1971 withdrawal meant we still have some of the crews of them to interview.
@mikeakersa8566
@mikeakersa8566 Жыл бұрын
Day one of asking for a "what your favorite ground attack jet says about you part 2"
@atomsnucleus2951
@atomsnucleus2951 Жыл бұрын
I think the fact the LBSCR Terriers aren't on this list is criminal
@soniomagr5498
@soniomagr5498 Жыл бұрын
According to Jim Van Der Kolk, the Union Pacific's Big Boys didn't just meet the expectations - they EXCEEDED them.
@GreatCenteralGlory
@GreatCenteralGlory Жыл бұрын
Hope to see the LBSCR No.72 "Fenchurch" on the next video. She was built in 1872 and survived in service until 1963 and was them preserved by the Bluebell Railway.
@laszlokaestner5766
@laszlokaestner5766 Жыл бұрын
Two other LBSCR A1s including the famous No. 40 Brighton / W11 Newport which represented the LBSCR at the Paris Exhibition live with Calbourne at the Isle of Wight Steam Railway.
@MirkoC407
@MirkoC407 Жыл бұрын
To finish it off - Duke of Gloucester should not have been built at all. British Rail considered there were enough locomotives of its power class around when they defined the types to be built as British standard locomotives after 1948. Just because one of those (just exactly) enough locomotives was involved in a crash and the diesels of that time proved troublesome in themselves, it was that Riddles opened the drawer with the locomotive ready to be built but cancelled, to build a one-of as replacement for a destroyed LMS Coronation Class locomotive.
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 Жыл бұрын
After the grouping there were 54 railway companies. We had the Big 4 and 50 other railways including the 5 famous Joint Railways (such as the S&DJR and the M&GNJR) and the lines that now form London Underground.
@hipstercrab5886
@hipstercrab5886 Жыл бұрын
about en57s... equally old ER2s are still in use in rural parts of russia
@wondermenel2811
@wondermenel2811 Жыл бұрын
yeah, but in rural parts, EN57 are everywhere
@laszlokaestner5766
@laszlokaestner5766 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this vid. I'm lucky enough to live in the village of Wootton Bridge on the Isle of Wight which sits at one end of the Isle of Wight Steam Railway. They have an absolutely amazing collection of motive power there with at least two classes that you won't see elsewhere including the O2 W24 Calbourne and the only surviving LBSCR E1 which was previously 110 Burgundy but has now been renamed W2 Yarmouth. They also have half the surviving Ivatt Class 2's and a pair of the famous A1 Terriers including the famous No. 40 Brighton/W11 Newport that won a medal at the Paris Exhibition and set a new speed record averaging 50mph on the run from Dieppe to Paris (presumably because Stroudley was showing off how much better the LBSCR engines were compared to their French counterparts). On a sad note I have heard it said from several sources that Chale was a better bet for preservation than Calbourne being in better overall condition. The consensus was that ideally you would save both and use Calbourne as a spares vehicle but sadly Chale was scrapped before she could be saved leaving Calbourne as the sole survivor and although thankfully they were able to fix her up I have heard it mentioned that she doesn't steam as well as she should due to being so run down when she was saved. On another note to show the scale of changes to the preservation movement when the IWSR first started they relied for four years on a tiny Hawthorne Leslie 0-4-0 saddle tank called Invincible as their only available steam loco doing shuttles back and forth over about a 1/4 mile of track with one coach. These days you will likely see the 2-6-2 Ivatts or a good old Austerity Hunslet with half a dozen coaches going in each direction over 5 1/2 miles of track. Even Calbourne and the Terriers now struggle with the loading during busy summer periods. Invincible is still there though currently undergoing overhaul and when available still runs trains during quieter times.
@williamadams7865
@williamadams7865 Жыл бұрын
I approve of the 02 class ;)
@laurenceskinnerton73
@laurenceskinnerton73 9 ай бұрын
Interesting.
@johnnydoe7616
@johnnydoe7616 Жыл бұрын
Do a full video on the Duke!!!
@dglcomputers1498
@dglcomputers1498 Жыл бұрын
Having just the middle car with motors was standard practice on all BR EMU's except the PEP derivatives , now you'll have a mix of powered and un-powered cars.
@ironhorsethrottlemaster5202
@ironhorsethrottlemaster5202 Жыл бұрын
The 2-10-4 Texas that the KCS had was the most badass
@SteamKing2160
@SteamKing2160 Жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: You can see a N&W Y2 on film and in color in Operation Fast Freight and I think it has the only footage of a N&W Y2 in service (there may be other N&W film footage that has a Y2 in it that I may not be aware of) and its road number is 1715.
@TryboBike
@TryboBike Жыл бұрын
EN57s are often referred as 'crapper's or other derogatory terms, because they are, frankly, a train without a purpose. They are too slow to be long distance trains and they are too constrained door count and power wise to be a good at being a commuter. So they were average at both. But they were _cheap_ and, in spite of everything, reliable. So in fact that over 1700 were made. Being 'proud' of them is a really funny thing. Most were subject to communist quality of both track and manufacture. They rode poorly on poor track, and tended to smell of toilets, greases and, in winter, hot air over people's boots. Since they were so common, people just didn't like them. That being said - now, with CWR everywhere, and modernisations being done, sometimes very deeply, they are pretty good at what they are. For me, they usually have at least one, sometimes two, roomy compartments for bicycles, which is something that modern trains lack. I think about 150 are still in service, but they don't really resemble what they started as.
@AmbianEagleheart
@AmbianEagleheart Жыл бұрын
Even if you don't like BR you have to watch the Duke of Gloucester's record run up Shap bank. Absolute train prawn
@kingkyle8991
@kingkyle8991 Жыл бұрын
You should do a top 5 Narrow gauge Engines that were clearly just mad science experiments or were never built. You only talked about the k-36, when in reality narrow gauge is just insane. You should look into the 10 inch grades of the unitta railway, the drunk disaster that was the Rio grand south, the time railroads fought a war for track laying rights in the royal groug, and the other crazy incident that happened. I've only talked about the tip of the iceberg so check out a KZbin channel call hyce. He works at the Colorado railroad Museum and had been a developer for a first person railway game called railroads online. He is right now doing a KZbin podcast with him and a friend playing the game in the background. Just watch his videos and you will have a graps for the narrow gauge.
@RandomTrinidadian
@RandomTrinidadian Жыл бұрын
#3 Glorious Polish Engineering!!!
@dynamitegms522
@dynamitegms522 Жыл бұрын
Suggestion: Most powerful tractors
@tulsatrash
@tulsatrash Жыл бұрын
More Baltic Sea, Central European, and Eastern European Locomotives, Cars, and Sets please. Tell us about the Early history of Czech railroads. From pre-steam to 1895.
@Mikado_Mika
@Mikado_Mika Жыл бұрын
Greatings from poland fan!
@jondowson7563
@jondowson7563 Жыл бұрын
Finally! The Adams O2 have appeared on one of your lists, quite rightly so. When you have steam locos with commercially operating lives of 70 something years, that kind of success speaks for itself. Incidentally, did you know about the ex London Underground stock that got cascaded to the Isle of Wight to replace steam? Once again, we had second hand stock, with a commercially operating life of 70 something years. Where else in Britain could you find pre WWII trains in daily service in the 21st century!? Retired/scrapped in 2021, we now have 1970's stock operating the island line. Island, and its unique railways are well worth a visit.
@MercenaryPen
@MercenaryPen Жыл бұрын
Yep, between the O2 and A1X classes, the isle of wight built a reputation that lasts to this day for providing new homes for ex-London commuter trains
@Saviliana
@Saviliana Жыл бұрын
What was the name of music piece form Class 8 scrapyard section? I really like that upbeat beats.
@genoobtlp4424
@genoobtlp4424 Жыл бұрын
Random thing about EMUs, English doesn’t really has the difference between a „loco with passengers car“ and a „flexible train unit“, they’re both EMUs. And to me that’s frustrating, because the „flexible train unit“ kind of EMU often has completely different design thoughts compared to a one car EMU. The single cars were often meant to pull normal trains instead of a loco, maybe even with a cab car, while multi car EMUs were more meant as a kind of train module that guaranteed equal or at least similar performance figures no matter how many you hook up together. At least with BR‘s AC EMUs it was fairly common that the power car was as central as possible, I‘d think to guarantee proper power distribution no matter how the sets were turned. These days it’s also fairly common to see distributed power throughout EMUs (as in every other car is powered or every other bogie has a motor or similar).
@harrisonallen651
@harrisonallen651 Жыл бұрын
The Class 8 Duke of Gloucester would later become the basis of the Thomas and Friends character of Murdoch.
@genesisrailfan1507
@genesisrailfan1507 Жыл бұрын
Umm, Murdoch is a standard 9F, not a standard 8. He was originally going to be a standard 7 pacific, possibly in maroon. But still...
@MokkaHai
@MokkaHai Жыл бұрын
video idea: 5 longest lasting locomotives in service
@saintsrail2.066
@saintsrail2.066 Жыл бұрын
24 is a lovely steamer and a delight to fire. She sounds so beautiful. BR cut up 31 by accident they said.
@isaiahvang144
@isaiahvang144 Жыл бұрын
Video Idea: Top 5 Trains with the coolest sounding names.
@tacticalcalebgaming7264
@tacticalcalebgaming7264 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes the track pounders 4:25
@philvanderlaan5942
@philvanderlaan5942 Жыл бұрын
Could we get your list of top 5 rail museums/heritage rail roads in the us /Uk / Europe/ect .
@pieter5237
@pieter5237 Жыл бұрын
a polish viewer here!
@grahamariss2111
@grahamariss2111 Жыл бұрын
Standard Class 8 was only going to be a one off engine because BR had only a need for one of this size after one of the LMS Princess Class, Princess Anne was written off. It was as with other Standard Class locomotives designed to share the maximum number of components from the other Standard Class locomotives (in her case the Standard 7) and so their absolute performance was compromised in return for better serviceability. However basically she was given a "tuning job" which effectively de standardised her, but as result improved her performance.
@LegoMiester14
@LegoMiester14 10 ай бұрын
You know, the Southern Railway Q1 would be at home on this list.
@Sleeper____1472
@Sleeper____1472 Жыл бұрын
Possibly the worst locomotive to exist becomes one of the best.
@danielhemple8649
@danielhemple8649 Жыл бұрын
I thought for sure the GG 1 would be on the list
@spirospagiatis4731
@spirospagiatis4731 Жыл бұрын
Make a video about the Tubize 2-6-0T "Mileai", it's Greece's most famous steam locomotive and it was designed by Evaristo de Chirico, the father of the famous artist, Giorgio de Chirico.
@blehtbh
@blehtbh Жыл бұрын
Ngl we need a video about the Lner tornado
@ashleyjiscool
@ashleyjiscool Жыл бұрын
You should put the 483 on a future one of these
@Ian-qs3fz
@Ian-qs3fz Жыл бұрын
this channel rules
@davidredfearn664
@davidredfearn664 6 ай бұрын
The lion on the British Rail logo looks like it has a bad gag reflux.
@alanabyss9246
@alanabyss9246 Жыл бұрын
The curse of British rail will never be lifted
@KristijanH
@KristijanH Жыл бұрын
I think you are wrong about the polish "gomulka" (as we called them), since Croatia still used them the last time I checked, tho sadly they were just recently retired here in Slovenia in 2021😭😭
@Rocker-1234
@Rocker-1234 Жыл бұрын
while dukes story is inspiring and i LOVE preservation stories especially of forgotten equipment but its not really an underdog... sure she got to spread her legs and prove everyone wrong eventually but it was long after steam was "dead" she couldnt really be a voice of savior for steam or her class. those O2s defying the odds to survive into eletrification tho?!? when theyre a config that you see alot in the worst trains ever series along side similar configs to it? now thats underdog. a typically less liked config becoming basically the isles mascot for so long and becoming one of the longest eras of steam? AND having this little 132 year old engine that could still running?, its enough to warm a steam lovers heart.
@marcleslac2413
@marcleslac2413 8 ай бұрын
71000 is not a underdog tbf, the duke is truely now, UNSPEAKABLY POWERFUL!
@tomasbarbosa8654
@tomasbarbosa8654 Жыл бұрын
Most Portuguese trains are from the 60s and 70s, just saying. Also, about the standard classes, they were an amazing concept,cheaper to maintain and an amalgamation of the best engines the UK had.
@mkrema
@mkrema Жыл бұрын
The EN57 were nicknamed "Gomulka" in ex Yugoslavia
@calvingreene90
@calvingreene90 Жыл бұрын
Reliable because of keeping the wind blown sand out.
@Elliottblancher
@Elliottblancher Жыл бұрын
Can you do North American Locomotives that were featured in the Thomas and Friends series?
@SouRwy4501Productions
@SouRwy4501Productions Жыл бұрын
Didn’t the USRA just use an existing N&W design for their 2-8-8-2?
@tommiles8982
@tommiles8982 Жыл бұрын
It would have been embarrassing if the dog (Duke of Gloucester) had proved that it was more capable than the locos built to replace steam. Especially because it was tax payers money being spent at the time on the modernisation programme. The flaws were due to not following plans, now I’m not a conspiracy theorist but considering a type 5 diesel would produce only slightly better, one has to wonder what the hell was going on. Designed to work built to fail. Politics is a fickle thing. On another note looking at the comments I saw about the O2 come into consideration I have 1 for longevity which is the midland 2p, a class that there should be a recreation of built. And for speed the lswr t6. The t9’s are always sung about but the t6’s regularly put in mid 90 mph running. Probable contender for beating city of Truro to the 100mph barrier, but in my mind proof that it was beaten by atlantic classes well before the Scotsman. Great content as always.
@t.bfisher5855
@t.bfisher5855 Жыл бұрын
10:04 YES I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE THANK GOD
@thatlittlefox.
@thatlittlefox. Жыл бұрын
Videot idea: 5 trains that were put into wrong Jobs.
@Wawa111_Mainline
@Wawa111_Mainline Жыл бұрын
ive gotten to go in 2050s cab and been on the front of the loco
@johnd8892
@johnd8892 Жыл бұрын
There is an Australian claim to the longest lived EMU. The EN-57 might take a few years to surpass the 65 years in normal service of the Australian Victorian Railways Tait train for Melbourne. The Tait EMUs were in electric normal service from 1919 to 1984 with about ten years of previous steam hauled service prior to that ; kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4TceGujhd-Kp8U One set of seven carriages has returned to preserved mainline fan trip usage recently after a long break. With the carriages in the set built between 1910 and 1918 it would have to be the oldest preserved EMU allowed on mainline use in the world. KZbin has numerous videos on them by searching for Tait Train.
@johnd8892
@johnd8892 Жыл бұрын
More on the Tait trains in normal service in this promo vid for a longer more detailed DVD : kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4TRc62Mpdp4h6M
@vincentberkan605
@vincentberkan605 Жыл бұрын
I'm this video's 100th like.
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 Жыл бұрын
Multiple power cars on EMUs are not that uncommon. All 4 generations of the DSB S-Tog, excluding the 2-car sets have multiple power cars. As did the BR Class 313 to 315 series of 25kV AC EMUs, as did the 750V DC Classes 411, 412, 415 and 432 on BR(SR). Also having a single power car with the traction motors in the centre of a 3-car EMU is nothing unusual, BR was doing this around the time the Po,ish units were being build (an example would be the Class 303).
@lnerb1class3172
@lnerb1class3172 Жыл бұрын
im getting my polish friend to pronouce that one railway
@tymekordon6984
@tymekordon6984 Жыл бұрын
Yes you DO have Polish fans like myself (:
@tractorjunkco9431
@tractorjunkco9431 Жыл бұрын
Poor Henry. Lol
@safeguardprime5914
@safeguardprime5914 Жыл бұрын
Are we getting another top 5 worst trains?
@Iliketrains0110
@Iliketrains0110 9 ай бұрын
I'm %25 polish but I'll let that slide
@SteveScotsman
@SteveScotsman Жыл бұрын
Polskie = Pole Ski Koleje = Coal Lay Państwowe = Pantst Vo Vay Polskie Koleje Państwowe Polish Nation Railways If I did it wrong please tell me but I think I did it right.
@Yonah-The-Donah
@Yonah-The-Donah Жыл бұрын
Chungus.
@wdubbelo
@wdubbelo Жыл бұрын
still no dutch trains why you do this to us dark why are you like this
@richardjayroe8922
@richardjayroe8922 Жыл бұрын
USA USA USA, N&W for the win
@williamsquires3070
@williamsquires3070 Жыл бұрын
If you’re referring to the BR Standard class 8 as a “she”, shouldn’t her nameplate say, “Duchess of Gloucester”? 😁
@legocentryk
@legocentryk Жыл бұрын
-Any Polish fans out there? -Here🤚🏻🇵🇱
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