5 Unbridled Romanticism - Fichte, Schelling, & Symbols (Isaiah Berlin 1965)

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00:00 Three Great Trends 00:50 Fichte 09:58 Schelling 16:02 Symbolism 21:44 Depth 26:33 Nostalgia 31:07 Paranoia 37:13 French Revolution

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It was ;his friend Jacobi, who warned the great Fichte, that he was going to get in trouble (lose his means of livelihood) if he persisted in teaching these ideas as if God no longer really existed. Indeed a contemporary, Moses Mendelssohn, had referred to the great one, Kant, as the "great destroyer" (of the tradition of belief in God). For Kant, God, Freedom and Immortality had become mere "postulates of the practical reason." We may, and really should, act AS IF these concepts exist, but we really cannot demonstrate (with our reason) that they actually do have demonstrable merit. Thus, with Fichte, building upon Kant, the notion of self-assertion, "positing," becomes paramount. The will becomes paramount, not reason. Nature is no longer the "standard," as it had been for the ancients. Now, the HUMAN WILL is the alpha and the omega, the standard of meaning for life. It is no wonder then that Kant, who started all this in a systematic way, is nowadays referred to by philosophers and thinkers as the "inventor of MAN."

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[@fuanon3441]

@52:25 the transformative (nature?what?) of everything into everything? i couldn't hear him

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He said: "The transformability of everything into everything".

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ال(( انا )) تحجب نفسها عن نفسها بأضعاف الحجب التي تضعها فيما بينها والعالم ،او بينها وبين ما،( ليس نفسها. ) ذلك ان ال( الانا ) هادمة لكل ماسواها ،هادمة لكل ما ( ليس نفسها ) ...انها لا تقبل ان يوجد معها سواها ..انها لايمكن ان تريد غير نفسها ...ال( انا ) ...فعل قتل وهدم وتدمير .....لهذا لاتتوقف عن وضع الحجب ( ليس حجابا واحدا ...بل سبع حجب نورانية وسبع حجب ظلامية ) ..وذلك هو كل مايمكنها فعله كي لاتشرع في ......قالت الملائكة عن ادم انه (( مفسد وسفاك ) اي ...غير قابل للمشاركة الوجودية ....انها افضل من قدم تعريفا ل( الانا ) قبل ظهور هذه الانا ........السوليبسيسم ....ماهو هذا ان لم يكن هو عجز الذات عن انكار ضرورتها الباطنة ؟

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I don't know if Schellng himself used the word, "paranoia." Instead, I think he may have used the word, "melancholy." Melancholy is, as it were, for Schelling, an aspect of existence itself. And I didn't hear Berlin use the word, "evil." But I think it was the Standford Encyclopedia of Philosophy article on Schelling ...that commented with words to the effect, no, more than that, that Schelling as a pessimist believed that evil was a thing in its own right, and not merely a "departure" from the GOOD. For Schelling, I had the impression, there is GOOD, even a kind of biblical good; but "God" has an equal, evil. So, had Schelling been influenced by "Paradise Lost"? At any rate, this kind of "Romanticism" it is clear, can and does give rise to what we call "Satanism," to the "religion" of Satanism. People to this day, starting in youth, look around, notice these very "real" terrors and "conspiracies," and decide, "If you can't beat it, join it." The become worshipers of the DEVIL One source of this "sensibility" is incest.

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I'm curious what do you mean by "Satanism"?

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