5 Vintage Stereo Pieces That Are Way Overpriced!

[@williamdenton5716]

Your Dad's Laugh is so energetic and genuine. My Dad's not around anymore, or I would give him a call. Instead I'm going to call my Son. He's a fine young man whose laugh, like your father's, is infectious and heart warming. Peace 🎩✌️🐀💿

[@bryansonnet2454]

2 sets of Pioneer and Marantz. They are Pioneer 's SX 1010 and SX 737, the Marantz 2230 and 2245. All have been recapped and serviced. Which sound better to me? The Marantz sound fuller and more dynamic over the Pioneer systems. Speakers I used are Pioneer HPM-100's and JBL L-36 Decades. I love my Pioneer receivers but the Marantz receivers sound and look amazing!

[@guyindecatur]

I still have my HPM-100s that I purchased more than 49 years ago. I play them everyday. They're in my basement gym. Still have my SX1050 receiver though I retired it years ago opting for a ADCOM power amp (which I really like) to push my Infinity speakers.

[@Jreb1865]

@@guyindecatur Freakin love Infinity speakers...

[@CraigHollabaugh]

Kevin, you justified all your choices here. I don't think you'll get any backlash from this video. Thanks for another "Coffee with Kevin" video.

[@skylabsaudio]

Thanks Craig!

[@jim010109]

Great video. I think the Klipsch Heresy is definitely not for everyone, but then again I don't think there is a speaker that fits everyone's taste.

[@flynnlizzy5469]

Except for what I just lost in re-sale value on my 9090db, lol

[@tomreidy1237]

Kevin, you don’t need to apologize for anything. Just keep bringing the great content. Thank you

[@skylabsaudio]

Thanks! Will do :)

[@raygarafano3633]

It's not always what ya say, but how u say it. Kevin is very courteous and gives a lot of thought to what he says.

[@Zimmy_1981]

Agreed, their content is wholesome, enlightening & educational. Seeing the family dynamic is so warming, too😊

[@mikeparker7709]

I could not agree more on all things mentioned. I'm amazed at times how accurate or that I'm always in agreement with Kevin, who I think opinion should be seen as expert advice.

[@loganson2cool]

Great video, you're right about the Sansui 9090DB, I was looking for one myself and after finding out about the Board issue, I switched to a Sansui 9090 which I got for the same price you were showing. Thanks for the great video information for vintage stereo.

[@jimr3179]

I agree with everything you said about the Pioneer SX-1980. I had one for 5 years. It was awesome to look at.The 1980 sounded great. I owned all of the receivers in the 80 series with the exception of the SX-580. My favorites are the SX-1080 and the 780.I also had an SX-1250 When prices started getting crazy I sold the 1980. Regrets... sometimes,but that's life. I've owned Pioneers since 1977.

[@erwintalpay6649]

Now I just looking for Luxman R-1050. Thats the sound i love. Definition of clean sound

[@jazzguitarman1]

I still have the R-1040 I bought in 1978. Still sounds great.

[@stevenwilliams6258]

Klipsch mounted drivers from the inside. It ruins the dispersion, particularly the tweeter. My 1974 Klipschorn mid and tweeter were greatly improved by mounting from the front, which I did around 1996. I called Klipsch about that and they said they didn't mount them that way at that time. It made them easier to remove and allowed the grill cloth to be stapled to the front panel. I haven't yet fixed the appearance as I just cut the grill. I have replacement, a close second cloth, from Crites. I am thinking of routing a new front to flush mount and going bare black without grill cloth. I think the way they mounted them may have contributed to some negative reviews.

[@Tonefiend]

I lost my dad suddenly a month ago. He turned 75 a couple days before passing. Still can’t believe it. He bought a Marantz 2270 in 1972 for $550. Still has all the paperwork. Engraved champagne face. It was his pride and joy. He used to talk about how he couldn’t afford a McIntosh but Marantz was second best. I was planning to surprise him with a McIntosh someday but I’m guess I am off the hook now $$$! I picked up a 2270 about 20 years ago for $90 at a pawn shop and unfortunately no longer have it. I’m going to go get my dad‘s and press that back in the service. I will do a full restoration and treasure it forever. Life is short!

[@rpm2dayg648]

Original owner of my 2250B here. I saved and saved making $5.50/hour to buy it, so it means something to me along with my BIC turntable and JBL Decade 36's. It's really a powerhouse and I love it. It also needs a tuneup/resto. Some day...

[@CSMSteel7]

Cherish that machine brother!

[@Tonefiend]

@@CSMSteel7 Thanks man I do!

[@jimmyBside]

@Tonefiend…So sorry about your Dad’s passing. We lost my Dad back in 2017, Mom in 2015, I miss them everyday. I have my Dad’s Victrola, model# 210. He got from a lady on his paper route, in the 50’s. I’m sure you’ll think of your Dad every time you fire up that beautiful 2270. 🍻

[@Tonefiend]

@@jimmyBside Thanks and right back at ya! Yeah it’s still fresh, still sinking in. Lots of good memories and lots of things to remind me of him!

[@edwardbagu1252]

Lovely video as always, that chat with your dad was the cherry on the cake.

[@tomiossi8092]

We see your appreciation for your Father, and we know where you and he got that. Keep passing the good traits down.❤️

[@jpsalazar706]

I am a Marantz owner and love your channel!

[@bb57365]

I had the 7070, paired with a set of ESS speakers. Served me well for many years and parties. Saw a full page add in Rolling Stone. I was hooked.

[@michaelessiambre9634]

Great video Kevin I purchased a Sansui 9090 about 8 months ago. Was aware of the 9090Db problem Purchased from a person in Pittsburgh. He also repairs vintage equipment and said unit was serviced with new caps and new lamps. Lights a on and off on dial ( no big deal ) also right channel is starting to fade in & out ( don’t like that ) All being said: it’s 50 years old and everything that age needs attention. I paid $1,400 for it total cost . I thought was a good price. Now have to have serviced again will see what that repair cost. Overall love the unit . No regrets. Speakers JBL L100 sounds fantastic / dual 1219 turntable

[@hippydippy]

Sounds to me like you got screwed?!

[@secondaryunit]

I love that you give your opinion! All in the ear of the beholder!! I have two SX-1980s and they are awesome to me. They are a clown car of a receiver-ridiculous, big and funny looking. I also have a SX-980 and It is all I want and need. But damn it is great showing off the SX-1980!! When I got into this hobby the 1980s were 3000 and now are 5000 plus. Buy and sell a few and work your way up to a bigger pioneer. You won’t regret it.

[@PlymouthVT]

Lots of Vietnam vets came back with 9090's. Bought from Japan duty free. That and Teac reel to reels. I repaired alot of 9090's they were really loud and powerful but were very unstable under high load and when very hot they could basically explode. Saw alot of totaled 9090 output boards.

[@bobc8649]

I think you are spot on about overvalued stereo equipment. That being said I really enjoy my 1971 Maranz 2270 with a pair of 1984 Heresy’s with a subwoofer. Might try a set of Fortes next. Thanks for all you do.

[@laorhino9702]

Fortes are the best value in speaker. My cornwalls are sitting idle and heresy’s are in the garage. Call me crazy but I preferred Forte 1 over 4 after 4 hrs A/B session.

[@72vespa]

Another great video ! Would like to see more videos of equipment that "fly's under the radar" for affordability & build quality. Serviceability is key, you could do a whole video series entitled "From the Bench" to help point out what equipment is a nightmare to repair & avoid .....

[@heimatliebe116]

Your dad is the best and you, Kevin, are awesome!

[@skylabsaudio]

Thank you :)

[@taoresonance3144]

The Klipsch KG series is a great recommendation! The KG-4 is about the same size as the Heresy, digs much deeper and there are a bunch of them out there. Get the titanium tweeter diaphragm upgrade (you can switch them out in about 10 minutes) and place them on short stands (like Skylabs own) and enjoy! Many consider the KG-4 the "entry drug" to the Klipsch speaker world. Now I am on the look out for a pair Klipsch Quartets. Happy listening everyone!

[@adsbadsb9488]

Kevin I did not comment on the earlier video showing your Dad. I thought he was fantastic. Knows his stuff in quiet and unassuming manner. He was just plain cool to meet and see. It is easy to see how you got your pleasant and honest demeanor. Please show more selections of your Dad, and for that manner, the other techs doing repairs/checks. ( if they are not too camera shy ) Hi Dad!

[@mikecampbell5856]

You always say it's going to be another fun video. And you're always right! LOL My son gave me a Marantz 2220b so the value is incredible for me. You're so lucky to have a great dad. My dad was a hard hearted, miserly SOB and when I found his dead body in his back yard, I felt a bit of peace in my life.

[@tonyunderwood9678]

Nothing wrong with your thoughts on your father, Mike. That's how I felt about my step-father (biological father had health issues, was gone when I was just 5). When the stepfather died (fairly young, late 40s, because of a destructive lifestyle), I felt like a weight was lifted off my shoulders because I wouldn't have to worry about Mom being physically abused anymore. My half-brother felt the same, even smiled when he came by my place to tell me the s.o.b. had died. To those who had a father they admired and loved, hang on to that. Some of us were deprived of that sort of thing. Topical (sorta) content: When I was in high school and still living at home, my stepfather used to berate and threaten me if I played any music loud enough for him to hear it anywhere in the house. Yeah, he was one of those sorts... Again, KUDOS to everyone who had a dad in their life that they respected and loved.

[@mikecampbell5856]

@@tonyunderwood9678 I'm sorry about your awful experience Tony. My dad didn't hit me too much, he just ignored me my whole life. My children, my grand children and my grand nieces and nephews have all told me they love me so I win. Yay!

[@tonyunderwood9678]

@@mikecampbell5856 Yep, win-win. Cheers, brother...

[@dalesprock8623]

Had to laugh about your comment on the SX 1980 and Hughes H-4 aka Spruce Goose. Was a sales rep for the SX 1980 in the '70'sand now give personal tours in the Spruce Goose! Thanks for the McMinnville, Oregon plug!

[@skylabsaudio]

Very cool!

[@grandenauto3214]

I bought a transit bus from McMinnville, for my daughter to turn into a hippi bus.

[@Jodeanson.23]

I have a pair of Klipsch KG4's that I bought in 1987. They have always sounded amazing and I would not think of trading them for a pair of Heresys. Powered by a '74 Marantz 2240 that Skylabs' service team brought back to life. My music room is my sanctuary. Thanks for another great video Kevin!

[@nicevmax]

Yes, so much of it is overpriced. I really appreciate you pointing to the components that are overpriced and then pointing out components that compare in quality and sound at a lesser price. Would like to see more of these videos keep up the great work.

[@kevinf.barnaby7448]

Great listening to someone that has a truly honest opinion that is certainly is in the ear of the beholder! You have the experience and profession to give this type of review and no one can say boo. I have watched your clips in the past but never subscribed. I certainly have after this one, keep up the heartfelt honesty which is very refreshing in today's enviroment!

[@robertrusche8039]

Your blessed, I lost my dad 6 years ago yesterday, what I would give to have him back, thanks for sharing him with us.

[@insolentstickleback3266]

This April 30th will be 6 years for me. Miss him everyday.

[@Zimmy_1981]

Condolences guys, losing a parent hits you in a different way. My mom passed August last year. Took me quite a while (& I use this word loosely) to "adjust"😢

[@batmandestroys1978]

Kevin, we love and respect your opinion! Most people totally agree with you! Either way you got us, as buyers and viewers! Great channel!

[@francescotenti193]

Great video with your dad and I totally agree with your list. Other receivers that keep going up are the Harman Kardon Twin Power. Not too many on eBay and prices keep growing, soon reaching that level if not there already.

[@quiksr20]

Spot on!!! I have a few 22xx's and while they are great, The tax is real.. Even comparing my 2235 to a Realistic STA-85 I have... They dont sound that much different for the difference in cost they bring.. Love the x3x line, that 939 will haunt me forever when I passed on one for $225 a few years back ugh. Keep up the great content!

[@dstoll7958]

I had a 9090db and the only problem was that Dolby switch. Cleaning did no good, constantly played with it to get both channels to work. Loved that 9090db but sold it when the prices went high. I paid 320.00 for it back in 1984 from a re buy Hi Fi place. Worse to work on than the 9090db is the QRX-9001. Those also have this same Dolby setup. Really enjoy your videos and appreciate your knowledge.

[@patriciawilson9666]

I have a Marantz 2220b,Pioneer SX-780 and Sansui 551,661,5050 and G2000.None of them are monster receivers and like you say i'll never need more power than what these can provide.I also have two Marantz 6110 turn tables which are simple semi-automatic belt drive tables that sound and work beautifully. Oh,yeah and a nice pair of EPI 100's...Always enjoy your videos.Thanks for the info.

[@stevecharles3430]

Awesome video. My first good stereo was a Marantz 2220B. Sadly it was sold with a business. Later ended up with a couple of 2230's that I later sold at a fair price. Always easier to sell things that people like, no matter the reason. As for that turntable with the peeling vinyl.....I did a big CEC built table during covid. it is a Taya and I covered it in Maple veneer. My first project of that kind. It turned out pretty good and was extremely satisfying to do. Get at it! Thanks again for the video and for sharing your Dad with us. I lost mine 20 long years ago.

[@robertcabrera6232]

The thing about the Marrantz that you fail to take into account was that the tuners on their receivers often blew out the competition. I sold high-end audio and video equipment during the 80s into the early 90s, just after the "Receiver Wars" had ended. And the thing that really set the Marrantz receivers apart was their tuners. My store was in the North end of San Francisco, an area where radio reception was difficult, because of hills and tall buildings. The better Marrantz receivers we took in on trade would almost always be able to tune in stations clearer than new digital separate tuners, and easily blew away all of the digital tuners on the receivers we sold. In fact, we could often tune in stations clearly without an antenna that were nothing but static without antennas on other units. Not only did they tune in stations better, but they also sounded better too, because the tuner section of receivers was an area where most other companies could skimp on and not be noticed by most consumers. I know that in my store, for example, that customers would come in to audition equipment with their favorite LP, CD or cassette, but wouldn't spend any time listening to the tuner. That's just how things were. In the meantime, I built my system that I have to this day, while I was working there, and it still sounds amazing. It consists of entirely separate components, including a Marrantz tuner that I overpaid for to take in on trade, with the intention of buying it myself.

[@natemgarcia]

This channel is so valuable and your insight and reasoning is so helpful. For us younger folks getting into stereo equipment without any mentors, thank you. You’re making the hobby less likely to be a bust.

[@danwheetman6914]

Kevin, having your dad there is golden, soak up as much as you can, Life is a timed event. Really straight ahead. I thought your opinions were well thought out and honest. I will say, for me, I have an SX1250 and a Marantz 2325 and I run them through ADS 1290’s and 1090’s. To my ears there is a difference and I love pushing the rock and roll through the Pioneer and my acoustic/classical/jazz through the Marantz. I was lucky and bought both receivers way under market so I’m a happy camper. Keep ‘em coming. Thanks

[@cliffrhames3023]

Great info and thanks!!! You are so blessed to still have your Father, keep him near you. I have a Sandy’s 1000A I will be recapping soon so should sound great, I hope as it is all tubes, love the tube stuff.

[@stepheneson4107]

Individual preference in vintage audio is the wonderful outcome of consumer choice. Why do some drivers swear by Ford while others swear AT it? You thoroughly explained your rationale each time.... whether it was serviceability (9090dB, PL530), supply & demand (2270, 1980), or you just didn't care for them (Heresy). No fan of audio can reasonably attack any part of this video.... not the least of which is your obvious love of your vintage dad! (my kindred spirit here....)

[@Leb_-fv5gd]

Thanks

[@skylabsaudio]

Thank you so much!

[@TheMrStelin]

Great video. You made me feel better about not splurging on a Marantz 2245. I've been using a Kenwood KR 3090 for the longest and recently switched to an Onkyo TX -4500 that I picked up. It sounds great, but I think the Kenwood 3090 and 4070 (gifted to my daughter) actually sound warmer. Kenwood seems to not get as much love either, but I'm a big fan. I really enjoyed the video with your Dad and was happy to see his response to finally watching the video himself. Thank you for sharing. 😎✌🏻🎶

[@kyleholtmeyer9073]

Onkyo made some great vintage stuff. I had the TX-4500 and now use the their integrated A-10.

[@MrMaxpower76]

I’ve been rocking a Kenwood Ka-7100 for 25 years. Pound nails all day.

[@josephnickel3665]

My first receiver was a 3090 and I loved it. One day it wouldn't fire up and was stupid and threw it away.

[@robmata474]

I have a 2245 I found it cheap a few weeks ago

[@gaspedalie]

Whoooow what a great relation with your dad. Bless the moments you have.

[@yellowperilbiker]

Interesting take on old Hi Fi. Was an audio engineer/repair person for about 50 years. Started on valve kit onwards to Bang and Olufsen early computer run gear etc, and some high end. In UK, generally, it is purely the sound quality that rules the prices on old equipment. Early Quad II series, SME arms, Revox reel to reels, Michell Gyro decks, Sugden etc etc.

[@trailerpark187]

Love to see your dad with you. I work with my son. We are both welders, and I'm showing him how to do it. I hope when he is older he will appreciate it cause I don't think he does currently. Maybe one day I'll have to stop in your shop while driving to my dad's house. I'm in michigan and he lives on the west side of Iowa

[@Leb_-fv5gd]

You sir are a gentleman in the truest sense of the word. Love your video's never miss a single one.

[@skylabsaudio]

I appreciate that

[@cuttinchops]

YES! The rooms I tried KG’s and others, ouch! Harsh. Moved maggies in, nice! Moved them to upstairs, yuk! All about the room no matter how much $ spent

[@solomonstewart1025]

Yes KGs are harsh...awful treble.

[@soyounoat2814]

In the early 1980s my university daze, my friend had a pair of Klipsch Heresy speakers driven by a Mac MC225, all in the main room of a 2 bedroom apartment. A slight crack of the throttle was enough to make those speakers dominate the small room. On certain occasions, he would open up the Macintosh, and the Heresys would take all of it without breaking up, but the damn things sounded like a concert PA system with midrange remaining pure and clean, rising in sound pressure until my eardrums would start to break up. Usually that would last for one song (ex: Good Lovin' by The Rascals) and we would vacate the apartment before the police showed up. Totally inappropriate for the setting, yet totally awesome for a bunch of 20 year old guys.

[@charlym2426]

I paid 700 dollars for the Marantz 2270 last summer (2023), in near mint condition, at an estate sale.

[@johnsummerhill8323]

IM0, old Marantz 2200 series receivers are over rated and overpriced. Look great but that is about all I like about them.

[@thomasdix8453]

Great video, Kevin! Agree, especially with the Hereseys. Thanks!

[@26Jorgeb]

Thanks for all these! Cool Dad you have there man!

[@rodnyg7952]

sure, the Marantz 2270 can have issues after 50 yrs like any component that old, and in need of maintenance. However, it's a fantastic warm sounding receiver. Mine was from 1972, and I wish I still had it

[@RocknRum]

Bias climb was an issue I had with mine.

[@rodnyg7952]

@@RocknRum could be one of two things. Either some solder joint need cleaning & re-soldering if discolored. Could also be a bad tube that knocks out a resistor. Try switching them around, or replace whatever one is bad --rock on !

[@timothybrissette]

Just had my 9090db completely refurbished. Only cost me $1,000. It was worth it. Great video! I know you are a Sansui guy.

[@marantz747]

Klipsch Heresy - agree - KG4 way better Pioneer SX1980 - agree I also don't care for the 2385,2500 or 2600 Marantz 2270/22XX - Blasphemy! You are correct they are over priced. But the looks and sound is better. "We Sound Better" Sansui 9090DB - I bought one years ago at a garage sale for $15. It was awesome. Sounded like a Marantz. Then I crossed the wires....Never to be seen again... Pioneer Turntable - Agreed Great video

[@hippydippy]

I disagree... A 9090db working correctly sounds much different than any Marantz. I've owned many different models of both through the years, but we all hear things differently don't we?

[@gaineyjohnson6628]

Thank-you for another good video! The beauty of this is with the exception of the pioneer turntable and the dolby Sansui, this list can change when prices change. If the Klipsch were $200 and the pioneer 1980 was $400 or the Marantz 22xx line was cheap, then the list can be about undervalued equipment. Very timely on the current market. Those three pieces of gear are excellent, overvalued at the moment, but excellent.

[@ScottJohnson-x4f]

Kevin, great video! However, in my opinion what you say does matter. It’s important that those of us deep in the vintage gear addiction realize why we truly desire a piece of hi-fi gear from the 70s or whenever. Whatever the reason, as long as we are happy with the choice and honest with ourselves, it’s all good. Repairs are not fun or cheap so this needs to be recognized in our decisions.i also believe you are spot on having personally dumped Heresys but love my Kg4s-both sets. My 2270 was satisfying for about 10 minutes…so my experience mirrors yours. Keep it up- Skylab viewers need to hear and learn from your experience. Thanks Scott

[@rayk6049]

Great video Kevin, I still love vintage gear and engage in the hobby via these kinds of videos. Having owned most of the popular gear, I’m one of those who think they’re all overrated and priced. They sure win the style points though.

[@jukingeo]

@Kevin As you say, it was a fun one! Your videos usually are. Since I learned that you mostly post videos on Sunday, I now anticipate your latest post. Once again, I agree with just about everything you mentioned here. Klipsch Heresy - Given the high cost of Klipsch vintage speakers, it seems that the Heresy was the only affordable one for the longest time. But I did learn that the speaker was designed as a center channel speaker and is is too small to produce good bass response. Yet, it still comes off as an affordable speaker in the Klipsch Heritage line. Many people do think that the speaker, because of it's small size can work right in a small room, and (as you said)_ it doesn't. A small room will just choke off the already lacking bass response. I had since looked a bit up in the Heritage line and had found a strong liking for the Forte speaker. It is only a bit bigger than the Heresy, but it sounds much better and it is suited for varied room sizes. Pioneer 1980 - Not much to say here but, why? If anyone thinks they absolutely have to have 270wpc in a home stereo really has to have their head examined. Let alone paying $8k for one. In my hi-fi power days, I had an Onkyo M504 in my bedroom. It is 165 wpc and I had found that I was using about 50 - 60 watts MAX and in that small room, that was already ear splitting volume. So I asked myself that same question...why? So when I sold my parent's house, I sold the 504 along with it. As for the 1980, It has been, and is always a pass for me. The thing weighs about 80 lbs as well. Do you really want to lug that thing around? ...I don't think so. Marantz- Okay, this is a subjective one and it is mostly aesthetics. I must be one of the few audio enthusiasts of vintage equipment that doesn't like the look of Marantz receivers. I am not fond of the blue and prefer green, or orange glow over it. I absolutely hate the thumbwheel tuning control, not that I really use the radio on a receiver any more. Sound wise, I think the Marantz sounds good. It does have a brighter mid to high range, and a slightly weaker bass when compared to a Sansui or Pioneer. But overall, I would agree that most of the units from that era have a similar sound. I guess just due to popularity Marantz commands a higher price. That's fine with me because I wouldn't buy one anyway. As it is, I had done much testing in my audio technician days and too, had become quite the fan of Sansui. That is what I have and I would recommend that any day and any time. Which brings me to... Sansui 9090db - I actually owned the original Sansui 9090. I had that along with the G7500. I had always preferred the aesthetics of the G series over the x0x0 series. So despite the 9090 having more power and also a midrange control, I ended up selling that one and keeping the G7500. But I had never knew of the problem with the 9090db. So I really don't get why that version fetches more money than the standard 9090. It doesn't make sense to me. Pioneer Pl-530. This is another, why? There are so many nicer tables from Technics that cost a lot cheaper. But I can go the other way too. I have a Technics SL1200MKII and performance wise, it will run circles around that 530! Yeah, I know the nice woodgrain cabinet....oh wait, it is that fake crap that peels. Yeah, I know, the Technics 1200 doesn't have automatic functions, but since it doesn't have it, there is nothing to break. The SL-1200 as well as those units derived from it have one of the most reliable motors ever made. They rarely go bad, and if they do, there are PLENTY of parts out there to fix it. BTW, do those other woodgrain Pioneer turntable's you mentioned have real wood, or do they have the fake vinyl too? So, once again, this was indeed a fun one and I did have fun coming along for the ride.

[@thorenshammer]

Family is always important; it's refreshing to see that with you and your father. Thanks. Great content.

[@cliffwarner7549]

I don't care if you're from Iowa, Minnesota or Missouri, as long as you're not from Kansas or Nebraska. . . Just kidding. . . I'm not a hater no matter where you're from. I love your videos and your demeanor. And almost as importantly I really appreciate your vintage stereo insights. My best to you and your Dad. You're a fortunate man! Keep it all coming! 🙂✌👍

[@makon2012]

I have a Kenwood KR 9600, bought it for $350 fifteen years ago and I would put it up against any of the "Monster Receivers" if the 70s. Love it and the channel! Great video as usual! Love the Des Moines area too!

[@joes7166]

An audiophile friend of mine was given a KR 9600 and didn't have room for it, so he gave it to me. So I didn't overpay for it. 😁 After some Deoxit on the volume/balance knob it works flawlessly. I use it nearly everyday. Way too much power for the speakers and room I have it in, but has plenty of reserve.

[@makon2012]

​@@joes7166Good on you! I've owned Pioneer SX 750 and a 1080 in the past but no longer have either. The Kenwood was what I settled on because of the specs. Couldn't justify the price for any of the Marantz equipment but I do think they're the best looking out of the vintage receivers for sale now. Especially the B models. Enjoy bro!

[@hippydippy]

That was a great year for Kenwood receivers. The 9600 was a beautiful & wonderful contender at the time. I'd be proud to own one Enjoy!

[@reidabney9005]

I've got two of them in storage one was actually tossed out of a car in a car accident and the power amp section still works I've had them for over 20 years got them for $70 at a flea market in Baltimore

[@Westy73]

Love my 9090 and not once have I regretted passing the DB up, I couldn’t justify the expense

[@1ring2rule3pigs]

I have an 8080DB, and honestly, I couldn't live without the Dolby. I use it daily. 🎉

[@kerryedavis]

@@1ring2rule3pigs Does anyone broadcast in dolby any more?

[@loydisham6492]

Great content, brought back a lot of fond memories. That 880 looks like a larger version of a Pioneer that I picked up at Sandy Barr's flea market in Portland, OR. years ago. Also picked up a Fisher cassette deck there with a two speed drive; 1-7/8 and 3-3/4 ips. These went with the Realistic Lab 500 turntable I bought with my first tax refund years earlier. I had to leave it behind in a moving situation. I found another one on ebay. Need to get that 500 spinning so I can start my vinyl to digital transcriptions again. I've had several Receivers: 1) Realistic 35 watts per channel and the 'Auto Magic' tuning in '78. 2) Pioneer, Sandy's Flea Market, it was 30 or 40 watts per channel. 3) Realistic 4.0 Receiver, failed to do my research as the rear was mono. 4) Onkyo; the display went out, making it unusable for me. 5) Yamaha 7.1, 105 watts per channel.

[@BobA-q4o]

Hey Kevin, I completely concur with your view on Marantz. I owned a 2230 receiver for 50 years with the expected channel problems. Recently sold my Sony STR-6120…they certainly don’t make them today like in the past. I do enjoy your diverse viewpoints.

[@mikeparker7709]

Wow.. I00% agree with Kevin's assessment on the mentioned products. Especially the Marantz 22XX series and I've had them all in my shop and still scratch my head why there there is such a cost. I read where there's a guy that charges about $2000.00 to replace caps, but justify that he also aligns the radio section. And on that Pioneer turntable, for me, if the manufacturer could not put a better case on it, it's not worth much. Great Job Kevin!!!

[@ericschwartzberg5083]

Another great review Kevin. I have 2. Sherwood receivers and a Pioneer sx 550. But my prize piece is a Sony str 6800. I put $200 in repairs it is 1 model under the flagship 7800 It has 85 watts per channel and for those people who say power does not matter they would be wrong! From my experience on these vintage receivers once you go over 60 watts per channel you have a different musical sensation.

[@solomonstewart1025]

My wife love that Sony str 6800. A great sounding receiver with just a different look.

[@ericschwartzberg5083]

Yes not as pretty as the large pioneer or sansui but the sound is ĝreat!

[@WilliamInternational]

I had so many different units back in the day when i was in high school,the 2270, the 2275, sansui au919 and tu919, mac4100, and finally an mc2200 with an apt holman preamp. I was using a thorens td160 with an sme series 3 arm with a signet tk7 cartridge. I was living the life and didn’t even know it.

[@williehutchinson3181]

Your spot on with the Pioneer SX 939 half the price of other receivers in the same class. I love mine! It has the warmth that other lower wattage receivers has. To my ear the higher wattage receivers just don't have that warmth the SX 939 provides that warmth how much time in the I don't have enough power at 75 watts per Channel per Channel to feel even a large room with glorious warm sound

[@jefferytisdale4348]

When you were talking about the kg series with passive radiators. Made me think of my speakers with passive radiators. The old vintage EPI A500 with dual 12 inch passive on the sides. I love these speakers. I bought from my uncle for $1.00.. he bought them brand new back then..

[@robertehring2085]

I just found your site. I like to listen to stories about stereos of the past. My Dad was with Fisher Stereo for many years and had those consoles you mentioned. I would see my dad bring home the experimental units well before they ever hit the market. I'm so familiar with the stories you tell. I met many people from all the other companies, knew Avery Fisher personally, and had lunch with him many times. I will watch your site more often and might buy a unit from you. I have stories of the stereo business back in the 60s through the 80s; I could write them down and send them to you or speak to you sometime.

[@jdwxflyer]

Very helpful stuff for someone getting back into vintage hi-fi like myself! Thanks Kevin

[@newriverratsam]

This has been due a while. Thank you!

[@Cimone90]

My dad still has his sx-1980 that he bought new in 1980. He is very particular so it looks like it is brand new. Its all be recapped and clesned recently and it is a monster. He has it paired to JBL L220 speakers. He also bought those new when he bought the receiver.

[@jeronronnunkoffunk4691]

Great video, and yes the time with dad is priceless I miss my dad every day and he’s the main reason I m even into Hi Fi and have learned what I did , but on to your choices IMHO we share the same sentiments on over priced vintage gear. Take it from me I have owned a cherry PIoneer PL 41 over 10 years ago and I’d would take it over the PL 530 especially considering that cheap vinyl wrap. The only other weakness for me is the rare and seldom seen PLC 590 now that was a beast and look wise more longevity as far as the plinth finish. Anyhow great videos man keep it coming!👍🏽👍🏽🔥🔥💪🏽

[@petrafied99]

7:13 I lived about 5 miles from the Spruce Goose for a time. Same reaction. So big it seems like a cartoon. But you have to see it in person.

[@davef.2329]

Though rarely used anymore, I have a functional, non-DB model of the Sansui 9090. It drives a couple of Cerwin-Vega S-2s and together they have faithfully reproduced all kinds of music for decades, including low-C, 32" bombardes of large pipe organs. Great receiver.

[@brucecoyle2565]

I had a couple figured out after talking to you in your shop but that’s it. Good job and having your dad there makes it even more enjoyable. Keep it up Kevin.

[@skylabsaudio]

Thanks 👍

[@sampsonpaul73]

Thanks Kevin for another great video. I appreciate your opinion and I agree that at the end of the day it's the listeners ear that matters. Keep up the good work 🙂

[@danstein2467]

Great video.

[@skylabsaudio]

Thank you so much!

[@passqualecaiazza7728]

I have my Dads Pioneer SX626 and love it. However in 1987 I bought a Realistic STA2700. I have never stopped playing that one. A lot of outstanding sound. Of coarse I own 10 Dual turntables that I totally enjoy.

[@davidnagy510]

I get your comments and your honesty is appreciated thank you. I also think your voice is very easy to listen to cheers

[@skylabsaudio]

I appreciate that!

[@marks.2909]

My first stereo back 1979 was a Sansui 80-80 DB , Dual turntable and Bose 901 speakers , then I started to read The Absolute Sound magazine,,…..I had a number of pretty decent stereo’s over the decades and currently have a fabulous sounding Pioneer SX-5590 , music server , dac and an absolutely fabulous match up with TeKton Lore speakers,..I have this set in a home office it’s constantly on during my work day . I will say it’s one of the topmost enjoyable stereos I have ever owned ,,…

[@johnowens7959]

Tuned into your channel a month ago..and enjoy all of them..and just bought 2 tee shirts. Wish your shop was closer to me! Keep up the good work Kevin!

[@keithvincenttucker9923]

I picked up a SX-880 for $100 at a garage sale, last year. Sounds great. I cannot say that I am looking to upgrade, unless I find a similar deal.

[@troyarmatti7167]

I have a pioneer pl 570 that I bought for 25.dollars. Don't think the man know what he had. Neither did I. Eventually the automatic function stopped working. Somehow I got it to work as a manual turntable, and am happy to have it work at all. Sounds great with a good cartridge. Can't believe how much they want for these on Ebay, even if just for parts. For what you pay, in comparison, I feel the 530 is a better deal. It just doesn't have the quartz lock. Great video.

[@BobJohnson-tq5vm]

Hey Kevin, I really enjoy the videos you put up. Your opinions are spot on in my book, and these videos are time well spent listening to your "Laid back" delivery about vintage audio. I didn't have a lot of cash to drop on this stuff back when it was new, so I have my eyes open now to pick up items at garage sales or wherever. So I have a small list going on what to keep an eye out for now, because the hardware is out there! Thanks pal!

[@samuellord8576]

Great work! Easy to understand, great message of value to everyone. Thanks!!!

[@primeanalogrecords]

Great video Kevin! I had a feeling multiple of those that you mentioned would be on there! Don’t understand your dislike for heresy, but to each his own! I myself I’m not adverse to a little differences in patina, since these things are old! What ticks me off is when people want something that looks and works absolutely as newwhen it’s 40 years old!

[@russfelger]

Great video, Kevin! Mentioning the 1980 effect people get when they first see one, is a very real thing. I saw my first in the mid 80's, as a child, when my uncle bought his. They are still impressive to me, even after being around 1 for years. What made my jaw drop, recently, and maybe shouldve made this list, was a pristine Marantz 2600. It is rare, 940 made(?), so I can see why they are priced astronomically, but 20-25k? I will say this, it looks and sounds incredible. Sadly, my pockets will never be that deep.

[@58MrMike]

Been using my Pioneer SX-737 since 1975. Still works!

[@tonymaiettasr.7340]

Me too. Since 1972

[@ripjones5294]

Another excellent installment. I see no flamethrowers thus far, and do not expect any. You're correct on the items that made your list, even if I do truly want to own a couple of them...😁 There just IS something about the Marantz 22XX receivers, and I guess I will just have to pay "The Marantz Tax" at some point in time. Lastly, you DO have a gift, to be able to see your Dad each day -- I miss mine. Give your Dad a hug...Rip

[@skylabsaudio]

That's Rip!

[@leonardpeters3266]

I sold a Marantz 2275 3 years ago for $650. It was not a trivial receiver to rebuild. I think it sat in my garage for 20 years waiting for rebuild. I will say that the THD measurements I made on it were stunningly low. It surprised me that they were considerably lower than the spec. But I wasn't going to substitute it for my Sansui AU-717, so down the road she went. My Marantz 300DC never did go down the road, it still has a home. I do have Klipsch Heresy speakers upstairs with a subwoofer and eq'd for the room. Love them but I bought the pair for $300. Amazingly enough I thought that was way to much, because I spent the same amount for my La Scala's downstairs 10 years earlier. Klipsch speakers are really not to everyone's taste and I get it.

[@vincebrown5158]

Cool Channel, you bought back a lot of stereo equipment memories. Myself and friends were big Pioneer fans back in the day. My sister had a pair of Bose bookshelf speakers with a Pioneer pre-amp and turn table ( I cannot remember the model numbers). I cannot believe the prices!!! I also had a friend who had a console, the sound from this was incredible. Keep up the good work and I hope your Dad is doing well.

[@skylabsaudio]

Thanks!

[@darthwhit]

Great video. Really love hearing your honest take and I agree in all ways. Was wondering if you would say avoid certain Yamaha receivers. I've got one that I have to have the power supply replaced seemingly every two years or so. Getting old and expensive but this also belonged to my father-in-law that has passed so I can never actually get rid of it. It's a beautiful piece of art but getting tired of repairing it. I love this industry but can't stand so much bullshit from folks in it. Really appreciate it.

[@keithroy7884]

What model receiver are you having trouble with? I had the 1020 and 2020 from back in the late '70's but all my gear got stolen, and I've been thinking of trying to find replacements. I've never heard of that problem with these models, but was aware that like many companies, they went through phases, cheapening components during the ''80's, etc.

[@bshingledecker]

First comment !! !!!......... Keep your Dad close. It is great you two get along for the most part, (had to say that) I miss my dad. How about the B series Marantz ?..... same scenario in my opinion. Agree on the Sansui as well. That Dolby board was an engineering disaster. There would be a good project that could pay off. A bypass board or multi connector. Keeps the knobs, bypasses the problems.

[@stinkenstine]

I bought the 9090DB and the tech I bought it from, painstakingly fixed the Dolby board issue and changed out the ribbon soldering to pin connectors. This receiver has been a workhorse. I believe if the work has been done, then it’s worth its price & value. If not, good luck with the crazy price. I do however think the Pioneer SX-1010 is very undervalued if you’ve ever heard one. I would put that receiver to be one of the best sounding receivers ever! I power a set of OHM Walsh F’s at 4/3ohms and it’s glorious! I own a 2325 , 2250B, Toshiba SA-7100 & a MA6200 that are phenomenal receivers and have been serviced and working beautifully to spec but, the Pioneer SX-1010 is my Grail receiver hands down and worth what some of he top sought after vintage receivers are worth in my opinion. In complete restored condition I would ask 3k. In mint untouched working condition I could see 2k for that receiver.

[@roberttoews2775]

Definitely was a fun one. I've enjoyed and learned something new from all your videos.

[@skylabsaudio]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@johnlattmann7444]

Thank heavens you didn't go after my Yorx all-in-one driving Lloyd's speakers!😊

[@johnnytacokleinschmidt515]

I've got a GPX junky system and happened across a second pair of matching orphaned speakers. It's junk, but I like it just fine in the shop.

[@arthurdavis1065]

Now that's funny, save a ton and buy a GPX lo-fi at its it's best.

[@johnnytacokleinschmidt515]

@@arthurdavis1065 😂

[@sudhirsumongkol8972]

That's funny.

[@hippydippy]

As someone who bought, sold & traded vintage audio for years, I've owned three 9090DB's & never once had a problem with the dolby. I also never paid more than $450 for one & they all were in excellent shape. That's not to say they are not troublesome as many have said, it's just that "I" never had a problem with one & still use one as my main source. It was totally restored 4 years ago & I wouldn't sell it for anything.

[@lenric58]

Another good video Kevin! I own a pair of Heresy’s and I love them. But I respect your opinion and understand that what people hear and prefer is subjective. Keep up the videos!

[@MollydogRadar]

I bought a 9090DB back in 87, from a stereo shop. It didn't work and the owner said he didn't have time to fix it. I paid 75 bucks for, took it home and worked on it for over a month. I am not a tech, I am a tinkerer. I was lucky. It was a cracked board in the Doby section. After soldering a couple of jumper wires it worked great for many years.