5 Ways to Watch 4K Content on the PC

[@SirValiantIII]

I can't wait until all this DRM crap dies and watching 4K content is as easy as watching 1080p content is today.

[@AndreasElf]

But, but, but don't we all love DRM? It's so restrictive and fun.

[@Sh4d0wch40s]

I still can't watch most of my 1080p Brays on PC due to DRM. I tried PowerDvD 9, PowerDvD10 and VLC, some Brays just wont work. MEDIA I BOUGHT LEGALLY IS NOT USABLE DUE TO COPYRIGHT RESTRICTIONS THAT FAIL TO PREVENT THOSE SAME MOVIES FROM BEING PIRATED. Those who make these DRMs should be put on death row for such an insane amount of STUPIDITY. Back to torrenting it is.

[@beetooex]

Can't believe this isn't the top comment. 4K DRM is bullshit and does nothing to stop piracy.

[@Bakairo89]

Sh4d0wch40s get a program called 'AnyDVD HD'. You'll be able to watch any 1080p bluray you want if they've decoded the DRM. beetooex yeah, if anything it encourages piracy! I'm shocked they haven't stuck this into gaming too so you can't play past 1440p without the DRM hardware. Total BS.

[@TheMeccio]

Sh4d0wch40s Just pirate PowerDVD 16, it's the only method i was able to use

[@eljoel89]

Maybe if Netflix hadn't cut a deal to only bring 4k to Intel Kaby Lake processors, on Windows 10, and using Microsoft Edge, then blocked Chrome, Firefox, and Opera from even supporting 1080p, refused to support Linux in any way, and used DRM to block my Steam Link so I couldn't watch it on their app from my living room to get 1080p on my TV, I would actually give a s*** about 4k content. Thank you Intel and Netflix.

[@j.r.stooksbury5722]

What I think is funny is that fact that out of Edge, Internet Explorer, Safari, Chrome, Opera, Firefox; Edge is the only one that they support 4k on, they support 1080p on Safari and Internet Explorer, and yet they only support 720p on Chrome, Opera, and Firefox.

[@jessestroster7687]

Yes. Plus all the s*** with the W3c approving DRM as a web standard is a bunch of bull

[@CrisURace]

true...friggin idiots....it's like ppl will actually by win 10 and intel shit for this sole reason. ftards!!! This is not the way you ^%&^%&%&%^

[@addydiesel6627]

Fear of the competition. It's like Intel and Dell Computers all over again.

[@michaelhinchey]

I play it through my xbox one anyway. No big deal.

[@LordStormwind]

So much DRM I'm better off just pirating it, good job.

[@Mr.guy24]

Thanks SONYYYYY

[@xbon1]

Fuck off and support the official release. I get my stuff working just fine

[@shabahfarook7527]

@@hcbs1986 for real fam, pirating is what we all do now and what are the best sites you would recommend, I'm using yts

[@Jaws10214]

​@@shabahfarook7527 find invites to sites like funfile, iptorrents, torrentleech etc.

[@chb3546]

it's funny how paid movies are harder to watch than pirated ones. This industry can't understand this shit ? it's 2017 ffs

[@xyoxus]

2018 still they don't fucking understand. Watching a bought movie: Label logos, movie trailers, menu -> movie start Pirated or ripped movie: Instant movie start.

[@hickey1292]

​@@alexandsimba It's really pathetic isn't it? I don't understand how their response to online content becoming more prevalent is to make the enthusiasts who still pay top dollar for the best physical media deal with some of the most restrictive DRM ever devised. It's like they want people to pirate. No matter, DRM is always broken eventually.

[@moewjoew3383]

The bigger joke is that people buy 4k blu ray movies but don't actually understand and know that most of these movies are not filmed in 4k because it takes too long to render everything out. That's why most movie companies use 2k filming and then make an upscale to 4k, so you can actually see a little difference in quality but it isn't much so 4k movies are basically a rip off and nothing more than a blu ray upscale to 4k

[@arvidjohansson3120]

@@moewjoew3383 Well, UHD may be a rip off, but I think most people are in it for HDR.

[@nerdyneedsalife8315]

@@arvidjohansson3120 This is late but what I do is research which movies used film with conversion to 4K. The Karate Kid is a great example of this. Plus, HDR is nice even on budget 4K TVs.

[@EposVox]

DRM has gotten way worse over the years, but the CPU requirement for 4K media is absolutely absurd. I will (soon) buy that UHD drive for when keys for UHD BluRays are decrypted for ripping, but this is the most serious bullshit ever and I have been quite pissed about it.

[@kinkychad69]

Can you make a 2021 version of this.

[@Gizfreek]

hardware DRM = no buy, it's that simple

[@brycejohnson7]

Congrats you got 220 likes lol, I feel bad when I see ppl's comments that have tons of likes but no comments because youtube doesn't tell you when you get likes

[@Gizfreek]

oh, that's nice, thank you fellow stranger

[@saysbadman]

KeweKrypto 12 is that because thieving is so free and easy? Because that is what you get with these anti consumer antics

[@pappo666]

@@saysbadman "anti consumer antics" what? if anything is anti consumer it is to force people to buy a specific 4K TV with HDCP 2.2 a specific Reciever with HDCP 2.2 and of course the 4K UHD Blu-ray player oh and not to forget cables that support the HDCP 2.2 as well i have most of that exept the UHD player and the TV and there is no way in hell im buying all of that crap jsut for movies when all i need is the older generation 4K TV witouth HDCP 2.2 i have and Plex but Ripping 4K UHD Discs is a nightmare i havent figured out quite yet since only a handful of readers allow Ripping...

[@AlexanderPavel]

So basically, torrenting is now much easier and pain-free than getting the 4K content legitimately. The movie industry keeps making it worse and worse (AACS on the original Blu-Rays which required special Blu-Ray programs to watch already hurt them badly, I'm surprised they took it even further). Also, why the hell should I buy a brand new computer SPECIFICALLY with a Kabylake CPU just to watch 4K. It's ridiculously stupid.

[@darviniusb]

Is the american way :D.

[@MelvinGundlach]

Alexander Pavel As far as I know, the AACS version of the new 4K Blu Rays hasn't been cracked yet, so there's no native 4K material on pirate sites yet. Only upscaled stuff (which every media player or TV could do)

[@TheAGCteam]

Yes, its the American way. Freedom baby!

[@supergoopinator]

MikelG00 It's not just upscaled. Some of them are essentially recordings of what went down the HDMI cable. Close, but not the raw data.

[@abdoufma]

torrenting has always been much easier and pain-free.

[@Tom5TomEntertainment]

Hardware DRM? Piracy to the rescue!

[@gabe_n828]

Runslik3Wind And so does DRMs

[@Gameboygenius]

+Gabe_N Runslik3Wind... 3... You know the meme...

[@joechief2456]

This isn't run of the mill DRM though, this is directly CPU enforced, even the OS has zero knowledge of the key or the unencrypted media file content. Mature implementations are going to be damn near impossible to break, which is a pretty frightening thought because the ease of piracy has been one of the forces that has kept media companies from going beyond merely PITA DRM and enclosed ecosystems to all out, no holds barred extortion at every level, every feature.

[@Gameboygenius]

+Joe Chief The essential secret in the system is the cryptographic keys hidden in the chips. What people can do is to decap the chip and read out the cryptographic keys using various methods, such as electron microscopy or probing the chip with needles to pick up the internal signals. Those methods are by no means trivial, especially since the chips have special protection mechanisms against them, but in the end it's just a battle against the clock. Nothing is truly secure.

[@runescapefan0001]

What are you gonna do? Download a new cpu?

[@Z29vZ2xlc3Vja3Mu]

Wow. I don't mind purchasing my movies, but when it becomes *THIS MUCH* of a hassle, forget it. I'm happy to just steal it instead. You can have my money when you stop treating me like garbage.

[@kornboy22]

I run 4k and bitstream audio from my pc using VLC through a receiver then to my tv and do not have any problems. Also 4k blu-ray player through receiver to tv and no problems.

[@ПавелПовх-з3у]

Yeah, i even considered buying netflix subscription, but i found out that my gtx 970 don't have this new drm suppor, but weaker 960 has.

[@renvolt]

You also need a kaby lake or newer cpu to get 4k from Netflix on a pc.

[@kornboy22]

Gabbiadini Hey, I tried mpc hc but could not get it to output to my receiver in Bitstream for the receiver to do the decoding. Tried powerdvd and could get that to output bitstream. If I close the file and restart it though it goes back to pcm output though. So I have to go back into "settings" then "more audio settings" then WITHOUT making any changes exit out of settings then it goes back to bitsream! So can get it to work but a bit of a pain to do that each time. Compared visually and did not look much different to me. Compared CPU usage in windows task manager and for VLC CPU useage averaged 10% and in Powerdvd CPU usage averaged 1%. I am using Powerdvd 16 that I noticed I already had on my PC. Tested on a Better Call Saul S03E06. Bit rate: 34.0Mbps, 3840x2160.

[@kornboy22]

Yea it was only 1% for powerdvd. Have my PC in the lounge so my 65" TV is my PC monitor basically. Have a 5.1.2 setup. I love it! Just followed that link you gave me and made the changes and now bitstreaming works! yea I missed that tab oops. thanks! mpc hc CPU usage is 0% haha. Compared all 3 and its really hard to tell the difference video wise. I would think that the audio should be the same for all 3 because it is bitstreaming (raw data) to the receiver then the receiver is doing the encoding. My CPU is a 3930K OC'd to 4.3, 16GB ram, 980TI and still on windows 7. Mostly game, internet and watch downloaded stuff. Looking at buying a new PC but mine still works fine. Threadripper and skylakeX look more like server CPUs. Only really need 6 or 8 cores for a bit of future proof as games still only opzimited for 2 or 4 cores at the moment. I like Ryzen 7 but they only offer 16 PCIe so cant really use more than 1 GPU or get any M.2 drives. Probably wait for coffeelake/cannonlake/icelake to see what they offer. Thanks for your help. I will try a different player each time and see if I notice any difference

[@Bababaaaa]

It's like they want people to torrent stuff with all that drm.

[@swedishbatman]

I'm very annoyed that I cannot play a lot of easily accessible 4k videos (Netflix, 4k BluRay, etc) without a workaround on my PC that has a 1080ti and a 6th generation i7 processor just because Intel "said so". At the same time the internal processing inside of a small streaming stick can handle pushing 4k content, there's no way my overkill gaming rig cannot. I'm not going to spend hundred upon hundreds of more dollars just to upgrade my motherboard and other components just to spend even more on the latest generation processor. I love to support film productions by doing my part by purchasing copies and paying for the films that they make but all this really does is make pirating movies and TV shows an even better, easier, and smarter option.

[@Kelthor85]

on the???

[@Contractor815]

THIS.

[@alexatkin]

Ultimately the quality is better on more dedicated players anyway, its one of the reasons I stopped watching Bluray on PC and just used a proper Bluray player. Works every time and gives a sharper picture with consistent frame-pacing, the latter of which I find PCs tend to be dodgy about.

[@EllenRipley1979]

SO VERY THIS.

[@tls5870]

Yeah I'm actually confused about this, I thought if I set my computer to 3840 x 2160 and watched 4k stuff on Netflix I was good. I just got my first 4k tv last week and only have my computer hooked up to it for now. When I switched the resolution on my computer it looked so much better and I thought I was watching 4k tv until I watched this video.... So I guess it's just that the colors are much better and the refresh rate makes movement so smooth that made me think I was watching 4k? Or am I actually watching 4k and Linus is making me think I'm not?? I'm so confused.

[@hkoizumi3134]

Why is 4K is riddled with DRMs?

[@Madchris8828]

H Koizumi Frankly, the easiest explanation is companies being afraid of consumers stealing there content and DRM makes it harder to do or so they think. I'm not entirely sure if it works.

[@hikari_no_yume]

every time there's a new digital video format it has a new kind of DRM attached DVD had CSS, it was broken, so Blu-ray had AACS and HDCP, it was broken, so Ultra HD Blu-ray has something new, and so on it'll never end :(

[@natedunn51]

MasterT45 its because they are ducks and want to force you to buy new crap

[@Quettesh]

They are forcing us to pirate it.

[@rubbereentjuh]

Because they can

[@neoqueto]

oh ok, so you need a special, brand new CPU capable of DRM features to play 4K content these days, cool. And people wonder why movie piracy is so popular. Why can't this just be a software thing? Give it 2 years and people will reverse-engineer even your stupid hardware and make it open source for everyone to enjoy.

[@sparkplug1018]

Funny thing is its so damn easy to rip a DRM disk. Just play it back on a compatible player and monitor with an HDMI splitter in the middle. Then just grab it with a decent capture card, boom 2-3 hours of a pirates time and its on the internet.

[@rajvinder89]

Peach inc. I'd assume the pirate would be intelligent enough to procure one that does.

[@knifeyonline]

there seem to be plenty of 4k capture cards, $200-$300. lot's of options to choose from. Can't be that hard, how long have 4k mkv's been on torrent sites? a year? ...or 3?

[@sparkplug1018]

There are quite a few options out there, AVIO comes to mind first. So yes, they exist.

[@isaiahnordine3058]

A

[@rusinsr]

I love how Intel would sponsor a video talking about how difficult they and their partners have made watching 4k content.

[@nevinzavell4207]

DRM: Creating more pirates then it stops since 1999

[@cletuslopes159]

*laughs in pirate*

[@rajvinder89]

cletus lopes haar haar haar!!!

[@TexelGuy]

You know what, I don't blame you.

[@kysputnikable]

Ho Ho Ho!

[@dm00121]

Yo ho ho, and a bottle of rum!

[@priyanshu7851]

ky sputnik pirate not santa.

[@CrazyWeeMonkey]

>sponsored by Intel well of course, because Intel currently has exclusivity of 4k Netflix on PC, which is fucking stupid.

[@AllPr0]

CrazyWeeMonkey And I'here with my Skylake CPU and 4k screen and I can't do anything about it

[@realtuber6522]

With new Nvidia driver update you can finally watch 4k netflix on any PC with a new enough Nvidia GPU.

[@Gnomesenpai]

RealTuber got any links to back that up?

[@TheSeigeLion]

So AMD builds still get fucked out of 4k content, hopefully it'll be fixed soon.

[@realtuber6522]

Yes only AMD builds still don't work sadly, but a Ryzen CPU and Pascal GPU will work just fine.

[@SupaRush]

You should make a video specifically on all the requirements needed to have a UHD bluray drive.

[@linuxares]

Holy shit with all these DRM... no wonder people pirate still.

[@KaeYoss]

linuxares I'd go as far as to say that people pirate more now. Getting the stuff legally means both infinitely more hassle and unnecessary expenses (and I'm not talking about buying the films themselves), AND financially supporting the morally bankrupt film industry.

[@eldoherz]

I get its sponsored content but seriously LMG you should have never done this video. Intels 4k hardware DRM is disgustingly anti consumer and should be condemned at every opportunity.

[@MelvinGundlach]

metro2002 At least DRM regions are gone with 4K Blu Rays.

[@rusinsr]

It's good that they made this video, because it's actually anti-advertising in a way lol :D

[@MotokenUchia]

watching this opened my eyes to the 4k DRM Bullshit that's going on. I WAS thinking of getting a 4k blu-ray drive, but now after some hdcp 2.2 research I realized I'd literally need a new core/mobo and monitor. fuck that. It's back to pirating.

[@e320e98u]

linus sold out, he works for the industry now

[@KitJohnson9]

eldoherz Read between the lines...this video is an anti-advertisement.

[@gorillatech5337]

Make sure to use the vga port when plugging you’re computer in to monitor for maximum graphics quality (I sub back)

[@thepyrotechnicpenguin4846]

ya hdmi is way too low quality

[@Amiaaaaaaaaa]

the pyrotechnic penguin Display Port is worse

[@thepyrotechnicpenguin4846]

jeffrey ya

[@JGnLAU8OAWF6]

I've heard that you need to use s-video for UHD.

[@MrMediator24]

RF is best for 4 and 8K!

[@2009slmlm]

Long live the pirates

[@Sanemikufan]

pirating all your Naruto episodes?

[@MelvinGundlach]

Rasen Shuriken Except the fact that there's no pirated native 4K material thanks to all that hardware DRM.

[@rivox1009]

So, for 4K you need to buy a 400$ mini-PC with a 7th gen Intel CPU, plus a subscription, plus not every 4K monitor works, plus not even 4K monitors that are meant to work work? This is just ridiculous Want to watch 4K content on the PC? yar har fiddle dee deee, being a pirate is alright to be! Do what you want cause a pirate is free, you are a PIRATE!

[@rubbereentjuh]

To be fair, it is currently supported on the newest GPUs & CPUs. Give it some time, and it is supported on all new hardware and everyone that regularly upgrades has 4K support. And yes you need DHCP 2.2 - all new GPUs, CPUs, monitors & TVs have that as well. Finally, you need to pay extra for 4K content over HD content... I'll stick with HD for a while, I find HD sufficient. For movies, I hardly see the difference between 4K and HD.

[@joechief2456]

Let's not be fair though, because the first monitor in this video *did* support HDCP 2.2 and it *still* didn't work, not to mention the e-waste this hardware DRM will generate, or the fact that in order to run it you need to let some shoddy publishing corporation that doesn't give 2 shits about security as long as you, the owner, can't inspect your own damn content the ability to run software that is completely outside the authority of the OS. Hope that DRM plugin doesn't get hacked and turned into malware, because if it does all those computers are pretty much done for.

[@Calyx]

Funfact; that 400$ PC doesn't come with any RAM, SSD/HDD or WiFi integrated, and no cables except power cable. Also, just get a HDCP stripper if you ever want to consume 4k content. It's easily the cheapest and best solution to bypass the DRM.

[@jumpierwolf]

Man, wtf is with this new DRM bullshit. And you can only run Netflix 4k on Microsoft edge, Wtf.

[@ArthurMottergan]

Or the better way just get the Netflix App on Windows supports 4K so you can stay on Chrome or whatever.

[@Somethingafw]

Edge is a great browser I use both Chrome and Edge. For me Edge is a lot smoother and faster browser but Chrome has all the extensions. So I just both of them.

[@HPR-do7hc]

Something tells me that Microsoft is to blame for this.

[@oliver24x]

And you need atleast Skylake or some shit. ONLY Intel too..

[@id1666]

Much more hassle free to torrent and as standard connections are at least 100mb/s today, 50-100GB per movie isn't too much. Why can't they just get their heads out of their asses and offer 4k bluray quality DMR-free streaming service with all the latest series and movies available as soon as the bluray/stream release hits the market? I'd pay at least 20€ for that without even blinking, maybe even 50€ if it truly had everything on day one with bluray-grade 4k and HDR. Why can't they understand I don't want localized content, I want to choose from everything on earth.

[@TheSkileton]

I didn't realise 4k had been so thoroughly fucked by bullshit DRM practices. Fucking hell.

[@agafaba]

4K TV + Powerful PC that doesnt have a cabylake CPU = Pirate whatever I want to watch DRM working as intended.

[@TheTechhX]

ill wait until that drm gets cracked, I JUST WANT TO WATCH MY OWN MEDIA I PAY FOR IN THE WAY THAT IS MOST CONVENIENT TO ME

[@LordAJ12345]

How dare you want to watch the movie you legally bought for real money? Stop being so entitled.

[@saunshilu]

7:00 GABE NEWELL?!

[@FleaOnMyWiener]

the man why can't count to 3

[@mbsfaridi]

36_Bit_Gaming I was thinking the same thing :D

[@seandempsey7572]

gaben.tv/

[@TheYuvamsharma]

GET A LIFE 3 CONFIRMED!!!

[@RedLeaderTrackMaster]

I really don't like piracy, and I love buying Blu-Rays, they're my absolute favorite way to watch movies and even some shows, but the way they have implemented DRM is insane. I'm at the point where I have 100% given up trying to playback BR on my workstation and just have a normal player hooked up to my monitor instead.

[@EmBoLabe]

DRM, Why i Pirate Movies i own Why pay for a bluray/4k/hdr version if i allready payed for it. "dvd version or even vhs" And all movies in 1 folder in alphabetic order on a nas, instant access without searching for the bluray/dvd cover or scratching discs etc... VLC Rocks And Yes, i liked my own comment

[@4473021]

Hein Van Hoof I buy blurays of movies I really like and want to support and have a physical form of. I don't even own a bluray player 😂😂😂

[@EmBoLabe]

I also support them when i go to the movies.

[@gillianseed4419]

buy a new processor just for drm? yeah no thanks intel, my x5660 still does everything i need it to do

[@EmBoLabe]

+Jim Watley Downsides of streaming software: you need to be online all the time and need unlimited bandwith or monitor it because if the ISP thottle it then bye bye watchin movies or pay a huge fee for more GB if you wan't to use the internet to do stuff etc. And Users are vulnerable to hackers, as well as spies intent on monitoring their activity or stealing personal information. That may include federal and corporate interests looking to catch copyright violators. Do i need to continue???? kodi can be hacked and a offline personal library not, Stop Acting Like a Douche

[@mmmhorsesteaks]

I don't mind VLC myself; but kodi can play your offline library just fine. That's was the whole idea behind kodi (or xbmc in ye olde days).

[@maryland7586]

Easy just download and install more pixels

[@Jo-ns7qj]

So as usual DRM sucks. Hollywood, get your act together.

[@TheMeccio]

Blu-Ray DRM is the bullshittiest thing in the world. I bought a bulk BD-Drive and little did i know the need for a 100$ (!!!!!!!!) Media Player! I payed the fucking hardware (and the blu rays!) what else do you want! My only other option is to jump through hoops in shady stuff/barely legal and not easy (for people who are not tech-savvy) stuff to make VLC or MHC-HC compatible, and then again, no Menu support! So no Extras, you get the language that you get, and sometimes it will get stuck at points during playback! in the end i pirated CyberLink PowerDVD 16 and forgot about it trust me you're better off buying a ps3

[@BCProgramming]

I've had no major issues with Blu-Ray via VLC; I got a non-bundled Blu-Ray Drive as well. With VLC It has full support for menus, including any and all extras, I can switch Audio Streams, and I've only had it get stuck on damaged discs (which also gave the same issue on actual Blu-Ray players). I did have to update the keys database once when a Disc failed to play but that was fairly straightforward. Definitely worth the cost (free).

[@TheMeccio]

Michael Burgwin unfortunately it is not my case while on powerdvd i can play it without issues, on VLC 3.0 (but also on vlc 2.something) batman begins (2006 movie) skips menu and crashes on an overview of the wayne tower 30 minutes in; i guess it must be a region lock thing (Europe)

[@realtuber6522]

vlc plays non 4k blurays just fine but for that you have to manually install aacs decryption keys

[@TheMeccio]

RealTuber i tried it and again, it didn't work completely. might be my caso though

[@grimyhr]

you mean xbox one s, sony retards didnt include uhd hdr bluray support even on ps4"pro"

[@OxicLean912]

Rest in Peace, Laser Disc

[@GadgetAddict]

A bonus is that most Intel NUCs are highly compatible with OS X for running your own hackintosh.

[@ricardomedinaacosta1243]

Can't I download a 4k monitor ?

[@OverlordActual]

Sure as long as you downloaded enough RAM you can do what ever you want.

[@lucas-ks7yx]

Don't foget about downloading a motherboard so you can install the ram on it

[@tonya7517]

Yes

[@ZulqarnainAidil]

what? nooo... of course you can. make sure you download a graphics card too. a gt 7800 is good enough because nvedeuh

[@bluesky7768]

downloadmoreram.com/ you can download a LOT of RAM from here! i now have 120gigs of ram and system runs 10x times better!

[@Aereto]

The 4k streaming has a deadly flaw combo of restriction and exclusivity' that make this financially unsupportable for typical customers, the main source of profit.

[@tazgamerplays]

Aereto And just think if they take net neutrality away you will have to also get your internet from specific providers for the best experience with Netflix. Netflix customer support... You want 4k with Netflix ok: do you have the video card we want you to have, the cpu, the monitor, the operating system, are you using the right browser, maybe you have the wrong internet provider. Netflix customer support still.. I don't understand why these people still can't figure out how to get 4k streaming to work it's so simple.

[@meddlin]

so, basically, the "leaders of the industry" have unanimously decided they are too cool for my money. oh well. I have no problem rocking 1080p for another 5-10 years.

[@rubenrodriguez5020]

Same here

[@guylevesque7753]

I simply bought a Samsung 4K player to play my 4K movies and it works without any issues. No PC's required! HDR included. Fantastic quality. Casting from KZbin is also amazing quality!

[@brendonv101]

The way i watch 4k content from my PC to my tv is connecting to my PC via lan and playing from the tv. No dlm or hardware errors. Plays back buttery smooth on my LG oled.

[@gorillatech5337]

I use a vcr player or a dvd

[@yatinobili1821]

Lololol

[@connorh5335]

GorillaTech *VCR?*

[@richardpaulphilips9561]

VCR Player: i.ebayimg.com/00/$T2eC16FHJHgFFmGC3oPbBRfNj1TCW!~~_32.JPG

[@connorh5335]

Johannes Chrysostomus Wolfgangus Theophilus I know what it is, I'm wondering why they use one

[@Tantrix1]

I use VLC player

[@weetabixharry]

5 years later and it's still practically impossible to stream 4K movies to a PC. And in the case of Google/KZbin it's now officially impossible.

[@JuzefaWingedCat]

What I understood from this : VLC player is God

[@theotherchannel2279]

At 5:18 we all liked option number five. It is what keeps the fans coming back, Linus!

[@ominenceforever5307]

Just in case no one has mentioned it already, don't forget the LG BH16NS55 optical drive which reads 4K UHD discs. At least with FW 1.02 if not other firmware revisions.

[@yannisgk]

GLADLY I HAVE ONE :)

[@The_Laser_Channel]

So you're telling me that I could go out and buy a 4K TV and a 4K blu-ray player and in a couple years, they could come out with a new form of DRM and I couldn't even watch the disks on my TV that's two years old despite that I legitimately paid for on a Blu-Ray player that I legitimately paid for using a disc that I legitimately paid for? If so, that's flat out bullshit!

[@mlong9475]

It's sad that they make it so hard for you to watch movies these days on your computer.

[@Adures]

HEY YOU!!!! YES, I'M TALKING TO YOU MOVIE INDUSTRY GUY!!! YES!!!! LOOK AT ME AND LISTEN! I will buy crazy amount of blu-rays if you make them as easy to use as DVD. My NAS and I are waiting

[@RWDtech]

Dear 1% of the market, No. Just buy a UHD Blue Ray player like everyone else. Sincerely, Movie Industry Guys

[@grahamnumber7123]

The reason piracy is there is BECAUSE the movie industry went away from making good films and good money from them..to making money with a who gives a shit if the film is good so long as the target audience is as wide a possible to make a progit - aka how disney destroyed Star Wars now. More and more shit films with overuse of CGI less real acting and a wooly cosy 'one size filts all' taktic to fim making. Yes all those Cert12 films that could be 15 and all those 12a that could be a 15 and those that are 15 that could be 18 rated.....drop the swearing that used to be the step up from PG to 15 and the then 18 films where just better in general with not much swearing. I own many good films on blu ray, many i'd already seen as a pirate version 1st. In every other industry if you are not happy with something you can get your money back - except film...so that means the industry can produce shit and people must pay for it anyway?? NOPE AKA why ther is piracy, wach before you buy. Rental costs through sky are nuts and Disney has lady fcking Gaga (poke her face) song at the ends of kids films so you can guess how much Disney gives a shit about anything other than $$$$$ now.

[@pappo666]

@@RWDtech UHD blu-ray player is not enough i bought a 4K blu-ray player with a new Denon reciever and its not working on my 4K tv the retailer said i needed HDMI 2.0 cables so i got that to no luck seems my 4K tv dont have HDCP 2.2 so i need a new TV as well.... this is complete bullshit i i expected 4K to last til next resolution was released so i bought a very expansive 85 inch 4K as soon as they came out and this is what i get... no way im getting a new one now... and if 8K will be like this or worse i wont even bother

[@Edward135i]

2:19 "Oh your monitor does not have the latest version of our Draconian DRM, guess you have to go out and buy a new $5000 one!"

[@JesusOfTheJungle]

I think I bought that same dvd drive. I put it in my PC before I did the appropriate amount of research necessary.. And I did A LOT! Not enough, apparently. 4 years later, I still have it and one of the biggest selling points for getting a PS5 is the hd-bluray playback!

[@SuperWarZoid]

can you make a video on how to overclock a 1080p monitor to 4k ??

[@BenjerminGaye]

Patrick Gueriguian .... I know this is a joke but U can super sample a 4k image to 1080p.

[@ChristianStout]

It's called Virtual/Dynamic Super-Resolution.

[@seandempsey7572]

I know you are joking but you can supersample a 1080P display to look better and have "fake" 4K and you can also overclock monitors' refresh rates.

[@joechief2456]

It's not really "overclocking" though, and that distinction is important because the monitor is unchanged, the GPU is just doing extra processing. It's closer to antialiasing for media content than "overclocking to 4K" - in fact, SSAA in modern games is literally just rendering at a higher resolution and downscaling to the target resolution.

[@Quettesh]

Increase the distance between you and the monitor.

[@Shumashi]

Why can't we just plug and play the disc..? All this DRM bullshizz is what's making 4k adoption so slow... (Your average consumer doesn't know all the standards/requirements to get a smooth experience so they just stick with what works...) ¬_¬

[@judykugio5685]

I was just wondering which type of computer you would recommend for use in the Home Theatre? Bare-bones kit (Such as Intel NUC) or Custom built Mini-ITX PC I am looking for a mid-high end HTPC setup. However, I am thinking one of 2 different setups; Either cheapest HTPC that can be used for web browsing and be able to run youtube videos on either 720p or 1080p. Or The cheapest HTPC that can render 4K videos and be able to run games such as Battlefield 1, GTA V, Overwatch and Ghost Recon Wildlands Thanks in advanced. :)

[@OmegaJazz]

DRM is what makes piracy more appealing. They don't deserve our money. The people who pay suffer.

[@mrsmilescam1550]

I know a console is nice for games and movies/tv, but if you just have a desktop gaming PC, you can use the few apps on the Microsoft Store, download from Itunes, or run the streaming services in a browser (not recommended).

[@krismeissmer2650]

DRM destroys Blu-ray for the pc. Before I buy a new processor + a new media player + a new blue-ray disc drive I would rather grab a xbox one x, which will come with a 4k blueray drive, too. Normally I am a pc guy, but I had so much problems with the blue-ray drive in my pc that I often took my brother's PS3 to watch movies instead.

[@RingoFreakingStarr]

I've read multiple people complain about the quality of 4k BD playback on Xbone Xs. I ended up getting a $130 Sony 4k BD player and it works great.

[@pappo666]

@@RingoFreakingStarr i did that to only issue i had was my first gen 85 inch 4K TV cant play it since no HDCP 2,2....

[@Mediarahan003]

5:18 I have been slain.

[@Johnsons1st]

up vote for the maxine

[@Johnsons1st]

Correction, I'm not a sweaty nerd yet; I'm only 17 & 1/2 Also to some fair credit, its the triple digits here but thankfully today and yesterdays been nice in the high 90s

[@Johnsons1st]

I really am and proud of it :P My computer is a beast and runs 60 fps for days, I overclocked my i5 3570k to 5ghz on air with +.2 voltage and a step up for my ram to 1866 and run a GTX 970. My boot drive is an ssd and my extra storage is 2 2tb sshds. I'm on the low runs of PCMR hardware but I'll still kick ass in games. (Don't challenge me for COD, BF3/4/1 for dayz). For now I'm satisfied but I want that 5.1 or 7.1 surround sound headset. My 5.1 died so I only hear sound in a two dimensional plane. Need multi-directional audio for that sound advantage over noob players who point and shoot

[@Mediarahan003]

Lol. I'm not trying to feed the troll, but this is nothing more than a compliment.

[@Johnsons1st]

*sad* I'm going to go shoot myself now I understand that now but i wanted to just reply to his comment really badly .-. *Jk I'm alive and well*

[@massv953]

Seems all like a big pain in the ass. Why is this shit not just plug and play? Why does windows not play blu-rays by default? I have a blue-ray drive why do i need a new one?

[@massv953]

Also why do I need to have windows 10 and edge? both of which I hate. Why cant windows 7 work?

[@BCProgramming]

The answer to all your questions is probably software patents and content licensing restrictions. For WIndows to be able to play Blu Ray or DVD out of the box, Microsoft needs to actually pay organizations for that "privilege" the idea is that Microsoft has to effectively pay per-unit to distribute software that is able to decrypt the DVD or Blu Ray Content, because the DVD Forum and Blu-Ray Consortium (or whatever they call themselves) own exclusive license to the methods to decrypt the content of the discs. Which is, of course, really dumb. Technically even a 100% open source implementation requires that the technique be licensed. Thankfully, some software projects- like VLC, are based in countries like France, where software is not recognized as patentable. This allows VLC to support DVD out of the box and it can be extended to play Blu Ray fairly easily. For streaming content, again we can see it is via licensing once more- basically, Content providers have strict requirements regarding how their content is delivered and as it happens only Edge via Windows 10 have implemented the strict DRM controls that they dictated as being required. This is also why the 4K content requires a Kaby Lake Chip, as that is the only chip that is able to decode the proprietary DRM encryption effectively enough to actually stream the content.

[@SirQuacks]

Cory R The DRM stuff is bull but blu ray player wise the new 4K blu rays have extra layers of data some blu ray players can't read because they don't have the right optic sensor to do so. Same reason why DVD players can't read blu rays.

[@j-man72b72]

Sorry Sir, that's incorrect, DVD's use red lasers, they physically can't read the data, because Blueray uses Blue lasers, the wavelength permits higher data density and the red laser just can't pickup the data.

[@Isabel369]

www.leawo.com/blu-ray-player/

[@timsavvy]

Thumbs up for not including another long affiliate advert within the video. :)

[@lucan88]

Excellent vid, Linus. I have been researching these exact issues for my next build and this was a great help.

[@harispapadopoulos4295]

Yes Linus, but to watch 4K video 1 VDSL is not enough. That's why I have 2 VDSL in my house. It's a vdSLI.

[@MelvinGundlach]

Χάρης Παπαδόπουλος You need 25 MBit/s max. That's not even VDSL, just standard DSL.

[@harispapadopoulos4295]

+MikelG00 It was a joke...

[@repeatrepeatrepeat]

*facepalm* when will the movie industry learn?

[@madmax2069]

They wont

[@pappo666]

@@madmax2069 VHS wasn't that bad with DRM tho DvD was at least better and bluray wasn't this much of a pain but 4K UHD bluray is terrible no way in hell am i buying tv+reciever + 4K player + special damn cables to watch it.... i have no idea how much money it would be i mean i have a older gen 4K tv witouth HDCP 2.2 that SHOULD be enough... thats what i got for being a early adopter...

[@FishStixy]

Linus Media Group should go on a work field trip for the August 21st Eclipse, they could go to Washington state. Like if you Agree.

[@hoangtran4736]

me: drm? what's drm. 15' later me: yar! to the bay we go!

[@crystalsoulslayer]

The NUC puns are killing me in the best way.

[@jippalippa]

It's so annoying to see some technologies being available on TVs but not the PC. I'm talking about 4K video content fruition and hdr. Both "technically" supported, but not really in practice (yet)...

[@ApeBlin]

no ad after the intro? Are the people at LTT okay?

[@adventuringwithwilliam2303]

Never been this early since Linus looked like a teen.

[@oromis995]

Really interesting video Linus, the keyboard one too. I'm glad to see you've got my full interest again.

[@kirby1fan]

kodi/xbmc > vlc > powerDVD. use anydvd to remove the drm restriction to play blurays (1080 and 4k) with ease (not needed if you have powerDVD). also, do 4k and 1080-3D oLED TVs/Monitors exist? kind of hard to find 3D stuff nowadays since the decline interest of 3D.

[@DanielRichards644]

Prefer my Shield TV for 4k

[@gorillatech5337]

DanielRichards644 it’s about PCs so...

[@nerycast]

First the first :v

[@ridingweeb4801]

i mean the shield is still a better solution because its cheaper and you can still plug everything in and just play it

[@The-Cat]

stop using WiFi and the lag wont be there bruh

[@DanielRichards644]

Riding Weeb, I got my first gen Shield TV with the remote included for like 25 bucks cheaper then the Shield normally sells for, so it was an even better deal then normal. LOVE the headphone jack in the remote and the rechargeable remotes, that stuff should be standard on all devices these days, crying shame the gen 2 ditched the rechargeable battery in the TV Remote and it's headphone jack.

[@treyplayx3]

Hey Linus, is it possible to 3D print a PC water cooler kit? My dad owns a gaming computer and a 3D printer. Also he has a CNC machine. Just something extra for help. Also I love your videos!

[@danieldougan269]

I used Handbrake in the past to rip DVDs and Blu-ray discs, but now I can't even do that with it because of DRM nonsense. So annoying. I'm not trying to pirate content. I am merely trying to store the content I already paid for in a more convenient way.

[@DeviImite]

makemkv?

[@rustcohle3803]

PC master race!! Picking up that pioneer today!^^

[@marceli-wac]

LG + Linus collaboration is probably the best thing that happened both to Linus as content creator and us as the audience

[@gorillatech5337]

I watch my 4K content on a vcr player

[@JRPW]

Step 1: Get a 4k monitor : /

[@The76Malibu]

Nope. Most monitors do not support the DRM.

[@FutureNaught]

www.walmart.com/ip/Proscan-50-Class-4K-2160P-LED-TV-PLDED5035A/55540602?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&adid=22222222227084289336&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=196155772921&wl4=pla-314950053833&wl5=9009291&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=online&wl12=55540602&wl13=&veh=sem

[@TomCamies]

aFuturnaught 269$ holy fuck that doesn't even get you a toaster here in Australia.

[@jupiter452]

who doesnt hear the difference between american and canadian accents? when i was in 4th grade i thought canadians sounded how they did in south park xD

[@kevincantwell1491]

really enjoying the nuc as htpc so far. use oppo udp 203 for 4k anyways. Great information, thank you.

[@sunealsblbrandt436]

rants on lists on the WAN show only showing "yes" by the product of the manufator itself and "no" by the competing product. uses it in own video. Nicely done

[@Pivrock2]

7:00 Was that Gaben?

[@cooltechno360]

@ 7:00 IS THAT GABEN?... Praise Lord GabeN!!!

[@AnnoyingRains]

ELiT3CH a

[@MA-jz4yc]

I will just stick to 1080p

[@gameeaters7223]

Daniel Muñoz same, 1440p

[@Grumpy_Wolf]

peasant

[@911WASanINSIDEjob420]

@Hazeem you are the peasant why waste money for nothing?

[@NahrAlma]

VLC - everybody's favorite. Media Player Classic is where it's at!

[@JHA854]

I love how DRM only affects people who legitimately buy their media. It doesn't stop piracy, it just makes piracy a better choice apparently.

[@LincolnintheAdirondacks]

I don't know about y'all, but I only buy 4K gear to watch The Lego Movie in 4K. Lol

[@chriscosway2036]

you forgot one you know........

[@elbaiad9407]

please dont tell me that one of these tips is turning your computer off and back on...

[@abdullahsaeed11]

I don't understand half of words and concepts Linus has used in this video. Hope he makes a few Techquickie episodes explaining the terms used in this video such as, video encoding, HDCP, DRMs, etc.

[@slingblade6641]

Thanks to Comcast data caps, I don't ever have to worry about streaming 4k content. I'm pushing my 1024GB cap each month as is, just as a gamer and casual Netflix watcher (HD)

[@iBoolGuy]

Only 4K I watch and download is porn, nothing else is worth 4K.

[@JGnLAU8OAWF6]

I saw 4K@60fps porn once, that was GREAT.

[@bigmaxcc]

Антон Южаков what's the link

[@JohnnyElihue]

This is exactly why I don't have a 4k tv or monitor. It's pointless. Until content catches up (which looks like it will still be a few years) there is no point. The TV industry just wants to sell you higher prices shit even though nothing works with it.

[@kornboy22]

I run 4k and bitstream audio from my pc using VLC through a receiver then to my tv and do not have any problems. Also 4k blu-ray player through receiver to tv and no problems.

[@MelvinGundlach]

4K Gaming and 4K Blu Rays using a Standard 4K Blu Ray player work flawlessly.

[@Italiandogs]

I've got a 4k tv and mainly watch tv shows that were made in the late 90's, early 2000's.

[@DotcomL]

This is the reason why I want a 1080p OLED. LG 910v is on my sights. And to be honest, I'll be just fine, it's not like movies become bad if you don't have 4k (mindblowing thought).

[@kernoleary1394]

no reason to not want a 4k monitor, how often do you watch movies on your computer? i know some people may quite frequently.. If i could watch netflix in 4k on my tv i would, but its still fun to play games at 4k on a big tv vs playing them on a 24 inch 1080p screen. but its only for some games

[@Pyra-Homura]

I feel like I should just get an Xbox One S to play my 4K Blu-rays...

[@mikek92]

Leif the Revanite That's what I did . Grabbed one last Thanksgiving for $249.00 . I recently picked up a 4k TV from Fry's electronics , also for$249.00 , HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 , just not HDR . Now I need to buy some uhd content ! It sucks trying to stream KZbin video in 4k on 20M DSL . 4k 30 and 1440 60 fps is fine , it chokes at 4k 60 fps...bad !

[@steve4278]

Leif the Revanite That's what I did on Prime Day. I spent $240 for the Xbox, 3 games, an extra controller, and a play and charge kit. When 4k players are $200 on their own it made no sense NOT to buy it.

[@Lukescomment]

If u want the best quality from a 4k blu ray u buy a standalone player.the xbox bluray drive is shit

[@jaxw2628]

Luke it's good 4K and you can't deny it.

[@alexswensen_]

Simplest way to get around HDMI DRM support is to grab an HDMI splitter box, plug one into a DRM capable TV, and the other into whatever monitor (or capture card) you wish. Sadly these devices are not as common for 4k content, and are mostly available for 1080p content.

[@WizardAngst]

Better title to fit in with the new LMG direction: "Our biggest shill video yet and you wont believe who we're shilling for!!!"

[@MalteserLP]

Step 5: i just watch 4k on a 1080p monitor :o

[@Dionjz11]

I mean it still looks better than 1080p on a 1080p monitor.

[@BryceandKyle]

VLC?!? Where is MPC-HC?

[@Icarus1234]

Sadly the latest release is the last release. The devs have stopped working on it. I think the news hit a few days ago. EDIT: Fuck VLC. my 7.1 audio mkvs never ever work using that shit. MPC-HC FTW!

[@jimimorijixopegujiuvoqi3479]

maybe because x264 codec which is developed by VideoLAN

[@SimbaSeven.]

I prefer PotPlayer.

[@aserillll]

DRM..DRM...DRM lol another point for piracy

[@natenate33]

we need another one of these

[@ewenchan1239]

It's September 2022 and I am JUST getting into trying to play 4K video on my new 4K TV (one's from Samsung and the other will be from LG). The part that I am struggling a little bit with now is that trying to play the videos over Plex requires at least transcoding the audio, which is leading to buffering issues, so I am trying to do some more research in order to try and find out what I can do about it short of setting up a mini PC to be able to handle the hardware accelerated decode.