5 Worst Road Bike Tech Trends

[@glharlor]

Integrated bar and stem, discontinuation of mid range mechanical group set, discontinuation of rim break frames. I agree completely about the price of bikes getting absurd.

[@richardcarr6493]

NO RIM BRAKES RULE FOR THE ROAD :)

[@comeridewithmeAE]

Rim brakes really aren't any more affordable than disc brakes at the end of the day, plus disc brakes are objectively better than rim brakes in practically every way, barring marginal differences in aerodynamics and weight. I agree with you on mid range Groupsets though,

[@glharlor]

@@comeridewithmeAE They are far worse in terms of maintenance and care. The only time they are objectively better is in mountain terrain. Bleeding brakes is much more complicated than anything required in rim brakes. They can be extremely noisy if they get anything on them. They also bend quite easily. Lastly if the wheel is off and you pull the brake, you have to completely re-set them up.

[@Hintonbro.]

KZbin folks won’t be satisfied until every casual cyclist is using expensive carbon wheels

[@yonglingng5640]

I'm in the sport for eleven years and I still haven't gotten carbon hoops. My last upgrade is a frameset, which now gives me a full carbon fork and seatpost.

[@DeisFortuna]

I just want to ride my bike to the comic book store to save on gas... Why do I need shit like this?????

[@yonglingng5640]

@@DeisFortuna Urban commuting really doesn't need carbon wheels, well-built aluminium will do.

[@zimmejoc]

I accidentally bent up my front rim and mid-pandemic the only thing I could lay my hands on were some carbon rims that cost as much as my bike did originally. Made an absolutely astounding difference in my riding. Average speed on my typical 30 mile ride jumped by 5mph.

[@Muppetkeeper]

I specifically avoid carbon wheels. I did spend £800 on some incredible metal wheels, they are so strong and light it’s great.

[@rangersmith4652]

For some bike items, it's not so much a matter of wishing they didn't exist as it is a matter of wishing they weren't supplanting what has already existed and should continue. Disk brakes are fine for those who want them, but we shouldn't allow to push rim brakes on high-end bikes out of existence. Integrated cabling is fine for those who want it, but again, we should still be able to get fully external routing on a high-end bike if we want it. I know the arguments for phasing out "older" tech. I know the automotive and computer analogies people are likely to cite, and I don't care. Bikes are meant to be low-tech, simple, and easy to maintain. We're getting too far away from that concept.

[@Steve-hh9gs4yo2i]

Any serious cyclist whose ridden disc brakes for any length of time knows that rim brakes would be an UPGRADE on any high-end bike these days.

[@TheRMCproduction]

@@Steve-hh9gs4yo2i Why? because of the the weight?

[@herculesrockefeller8969]

@@Steve-hh9gs4yo2i Still doesn't give anyone the option to opt out of the overkill, which is what Ranger is wishing for. Of course, all "serious" cyclists choose disc brakes, nothing else could EVER be chosen. 🙄

[@ariffau]

Thing is, people aren’t buying them. I see F12 on the road, how many of them are rims? Same for Factor O2 and the latest TCR. Rim brake aficionados aren’t buying new bikes that are also rim brakes. Not least not in the carbon road race market. Totally different story in the realm of bespoke steel bikes. Over there, rim brakes are totally not dead.

[@rangersmith4652]

@@ariffau I think the reason most new high-end and mid-range bikes being sold are carbon fiber, hydraulic brake, integrated cabling, electronically controlled shifting bikes is the buyers are emulating the world tour pros, all of whom have been forced in that direction (with the occasional outlier who gets away with because her or she wins races). It actually speaks volumes that so many bespoke buyers are still opting for rim brakes.

[@h3n488]

I think in gerenal I agree with the list but deep section alloy wheels are great for those of us who want the aero/looks but don't care about the weight. Carbon wheels are expensive and a little sensitive for general everyday use. Alloy frame/wheels all day for zero worry cycling 😊

[@m1mbz]

Almost every bike I've bought new came with a pretty terrible wheelset, the Fulcrum Racing 800DB wheels shown in the video would represent a serious upgrade from the supplied wheels I've experienced so far.

[@rohanisidore1890]

Sure right

[@dirkhunt9425]

The ones that came with my gravel bike were UNBRANDED hubs, 2.0 mm spokes (32 per wheel) and WTB19 rims, 2200g They lasted just long enough for my new wheelset to be ready... anyone want to buy a used wheelset... real cheap?

[@Saltydog547]

i agree deep section alloy wheels are good as training wheels and they are not going to crack on you when you hit a pothole. i have a pair of deep section carbon wheels but i only use them occasionally.

[@YoSpiff]

Proprietary bottom brackets. On my last build I just gave up understanding the standards and used a traditional square taper. But all of my bikes are at the lower end of the spectrum. The most expensive being $1700 USD.

[@christopherwebb3517]

Unless you're a competitive cyclist who has sponsors, I can't possibly imagine the justification for spending 5 figures on a bicycle. Even mid four figures seems silly to me. A bike can only get so good, and there's no way a $15K bike is ten times better than a well-made $1.5K bike - two or three times better, sure, but not ten times better.

[@thisisbenji90]

I feel like right now, the $5-7k range is really where diminishing returns start. A few years ago, I’d have said that range was $3-5k.

[@Domenic-u6b]

I think many forget that some just have more money and if they like it - they buy it. I know lots of roadies personally riding 10k+ bikes without being a pro or even being close to it. They just have fun riding and dont mind spending that much money on it if they enjoy it. But of course its wrong to go for such bikes in private if its just for Performance. Its just as you said, its not reasonably enough better to make the price look fair for it.

[@stopdropandroll]

Why does a bike cost more than a motorcycle?

[@thisisbenji90]

@@stopdropandroll because you’re comparing a low end motorcycle with a high end bicycle.

[@stopdropandroll]

@benjamin reynolds that justifies the price? Some road bikes are close to 20k which is around the price range of a liter bike. Even for the low end motorcycles. You think a road bike should cost the same as a motorcycle with an engine, gearbox, brakes...etc?

[@M3GRSD]

Bike manufacturers are charging silly money. A new 2023 Trek Madone SLR AXS is nearly 13k stateside. I said f*** that, and bought a new 2019 Madone SLR frameset ("New" 2019 frameset, strange right?) and bought all my own components, total cost spent is around 6k. This is a super bike too, ENVE Foundation 65 wheels and Red eTap AXS. No PM though.

[@elisgomer7164]

I’ve got a 2020 rim brake Giant TCR - through some careful upgrades and eBay bargains it’s now got SRAM eTap (1st gen), a PM and a choice of Enve 3.4 clinchers or 6.7 tubs. It’s basically the top-of-the-range build from about 6 years ago for a fraction of the price.

[@Bonky-wonky]

Headset cable routing, plastic headsets, pressfit bb’s, barely accessible brake calipers all deserve to fade into obscurity.

[@howheels]

Personally, I'm in love with the fact that full builds are so much more expensive. I've been building my own bikes from the frame up for years and I've always payed a huge penalty. My most recent build was 30% cheaper than the top-end spec, and my build has far superior components as well!

[@whssy]

There is no doubt in my mind that certain manufacturers have been exercising gross price opportunism at the high end since cycling started pulling people in who would otherwise have spent all their free time on a golf course. And while innovation is often good, when it comes without associated engineering improvements that actually improve the product's efficiency and service life, as you point out with the bottom bracket issue (ironically the hobby horse of your arch enemy Hambini). Cheap BSOs aren't exactly a new thing either - so much so that the term BSO has largely been and gone. They've been with us since mass production. But it is about time that safety/quality standards were applied to their manufacturers and enforced.

[@palpatine1975]

Companies like specialized and cannondale are over rated and mark up their bikes at exorbitant prices which actually the bikes are not worth at those prices in the 1st place.

[@BillVerdon]

Integrated cockpits... the ones that don't have any flexibility... rid them all!

[@MonkeyForce14]

I built my Tarmac SL7 up from scratch. The only difference from the factory SL7 is it was the non power meter SRAM Red's cause I already have power meter pedals and a Fabric saddle. Even managed to add in a Kogel OSPW and it came to around MYR4800 (around US$1000) cheaper, factoring in the price of the Vector 3

[@Resoluteofficial]

frameset builds are the way to go, exactly what I'm doing for this reason

[@Rick--A-F]

i wish the manufacturers would standardize wheel hub designs and sizes again. These days it's really hard to work out what hub or adapters will match a frame. Perhaps I'm just too old and remember when all I needed to know was how many gears the rear wheel had and was was it a Shimano or Compagnolo fitting.

[@yonglingng5640]

For road bikes, these are what I know of, which aren't as confusing as remembering more than fourteen BB standards on 21st-century road frames. Rim brake Front: 9x100 mm Rear:9 x 130 mm Disc brake (open dropout) Front: 9x100 mm Rear: 9/10x135 mm Disc brake (closed dropout) Front: 12x100 mm Rear: 12x142 mm

[@musicman5075]

When it comes to the wheels supplied I think they are one of the easiest things to change so I dont mind cheap ones. One of the most irritating things is spending a lot of money to get a bike with good frame and groupset but expensive wheels which are still not what I want or as good as a pair I already have in the garage at home.

[@abalamucka]

The problem with building a bike instead of buying a complete one is availability of framesets - I wanted to do that last year and it was just impossible to get the frameset I wanted, meanwhile complete bikes with that frame were in stock all the time

[@vittocrazi]

happens the same for me. plus the frame alone costed more than some bikes...

[@Omar411269]

Electronic shifting to me is a dumber than even hydraulic shifting. Pedal bikes shouldn't have batteries. Ebikes are fine but shifting, nah.

[@SecwetGwiwer]

Not sure I understand the point about the steerer stop, it’s absolutely essential for some designs to prevent even worse damage to the frame or brake hoses. The design of the steerer stop is the issue.

[@yonglingng5640]

Almost every sixth-generation Madone I've seen has fork crown damage, some 2021+ Émondas I've seen already have broken steer stops. For the third-generation SuperSix EVO, heh, this thing is a joke. It's probably the first bike I don't recommend to anybody.

[@matthewlewis2072]

It's a sign of poor design.

[@joneinarmattiasvisser6113]

3:00 second hand bikes are awesome! I bought one for €800. Carbon cx bike, (although rim brake). Shimano 105 11 speed spec, aluminium components and wheels, overall nice bike!

[@anthonyduncalf-uk]

Integrated bars and stems are the latest disaster. There's no way of altering the reach or width of the bars in the future if you want to without buying a new bar/stem combination and if you damage the bars you might not be able to get hold of the correct one's for that bike. Also when you sell the bike other people can't alter the reach either. More stuff heading for the landfill I'm afraid. Standard bike parts are becoming less standard all the time.

[@andrewcockburn7484]

S works tax isn't a new thing. I always assumed that the inflated RRP means that there is more room for retailers to offer a "discount"....

[@JogBird]

it also makes lower spec bikes look 'reasonable'... get 95% of an sworks for only 70% of the price

[@matthewlewis2072]

The law of diminishing returns...AKA "a fool and their money..."

[@matthewlewis2072]

All Pinarellos. Their stupid tube shapes, kinks and lumps everywhere. And they're made by a handbag company.

[@CarbonRider1]

I was just telling some friends that you can build a bike custom, with better upgrades, than a complete stock build. I think the bike industry is just pulling numbers out of the butts, they want a 15K bike or a 12K bike, and it doesn’t matter if that is what the bike build is worth. The EVO top end frameset has a 1.5K price increase over the Hi-Mod to save 40gs…yet another price point pulled out of their butt.

[@nicdoye]

Deep aluminium rims a no go? You’ll take my Mavic CXP-33s from my cold dead hands.

[@Palanibert]

I'd like to know why some higher end bicycle tires cost more than the tires on my car.

[@yonglingng5640]

The first time I saw the price of ENVE tires, my jaw has never dropped so hard.

[@tomrachellesfirstdance7843]

I wonder how much a duraace groupset would cost cannondale? I bet its close to 50% cheaper than we can get it at.

[@moritzaufenanger2537]

More. Your usual dealer will get a 1.6-1.8x margin on most stuff. e.g. DA for ~4000 they buy for ~2400 or so. But thats without tax ofc. A manufacturer 1. gets their stuff directly from shimano and not from a distributor, and due to massive amounts they get way better orices too. I would guess Cannondale or whoever (PON) pays something like 1-1500 for a DA groupset

[@zackbaldman]

One thing to mention: the custom builds will also take who knows how long to assemble. Start to finish, it will probably take at least a month if you do everything yourself; more if you have a shop do it for you. During the busy season, you're looking at ~2 months to get everything sized, ordered, and assembled. Potentially more depending on the stock status of some of those components. Meanwhile, a complete build can be out on the road in the time it takes to ship and assemble (1-2 weeks if it's in-stock). Faster if the shop has one on the floor already. In my experience, the folks willing to dump thousands upon thousands of dollars on a bike that is, frankly, more than they really need are willing to spend more for convenience. A few hundred, or even a thousand, $ is a drop in the bucket to them.

[@CarbonRider1]

You are assuming the full bike is available to take home. A lot of full builds have wait times, some 6 months or more.

[@zackbaldman]

@@CarbonRider1 Also true coughBianchicough

[@trueskatewithsam5275]

I have a 1975 univega viva sport with a lot of the original components still on there. It’s my first road bike and I got it for 135.00 and a dr.pepper since I’ve had it I have now put on 1500 miles. It’s amazing what a almost 50 year old bike can do.

[@gustavoguidelli]

Every mid level bike comes with horrible tyres. For them, if they put some nice tyres wouldn't cost a lot of money in the same way that costs to us.

[@ducman748996]

Over stiff and heavy dropped seat stay aero framesets, fat heavy tires that make the aero frames rideable, over complex hydraulic disc that make it even heavier and noisy, internal cable routing that make it very hard to experiment with different bar and stem combos, and proprietary seat posts, bars, and stems….

[@fdshybgv46twgs5ssrjufhfg-pf7lf]

1. It's is insulting that bikes at car price range still require extra purchases. Powermeter, head unit and bike fit and are still weighted without all these necessary accessories for sale, and people still don't get the the absolute best equipment. 2. The build quality especially for bottom brackets the heart of the bike still come awfully misaligned creating excess friction to the point that I once dropped a TT rider on a flat with my Colnago Master steel bike from 1989. That shouldn't be possible, he had a lighter Carbon TT bike and 60mm deep section wheels, while I was riding the 80s Corsa Record components on a >8kg steel frame build. 3. Tyre width and pressure, It wouldn't surprise me if high tyre pressures get banned in the future. The efficiency on good roads is unquestionable. Now the industry trend need wider forks for better airflow to the point that they have the width of an MTB. Of course to compensate for the ridiculous tyre width. I wouldn't race anything below 8bar. 4. The rule's haven't changed, the riders still causes roughly 75% of the drag. I raced: Look 555 Dura Ace 2007 800€ 6,95kg, Cervélo Soloist Carbon SRAM Red 2006 2700€ 7,05kg and a Cervélo S5 Disc SRAM Etap 2019 17.000€ 7,30kg. "All my bikes weighted with pedals, empty bottles and head unit." Let that sink in, your bowel movement makes a bigger difference on race day.

[@ptonewood]

I would not disagree with any of the trends you stated. I see more and more cables running through the headset…even on MTB’s. Either make it fully integrated or not. I ride so much in all kinds of weather, and this just seems to be asking for trouble even if there is a drainage port. I’ve never been bothered by external cables, and I’m not running a bar-bag on a MTB or road bike. Also not a fan of proprietary parts (seatposts). Lastly, I haven’t purchased a new bike without quickly wearing out cartridge bearings in the stock wheels. So, give us better stock wheels or seals and bearings, pls!

[@JohnWest-k4m]

My Sworks Aethos build with upgrades to saddle, bars and wheels - Princeton Carbonworks +build still can out cheaper than list price - there are now discounts on whole bikes if your negotiate, wasn't the case during COVID

[@dirkhunt9425]

I don't mind bikes coming with cheap wheelsets. If you are commuting etc. you want something that doesn't $$$ if you damage them. Upgrading your wheels to what you want (how you ride, your weight, do you do lots of climbing, do you live in fairly flat Florida:)) will dictate what wheelset you need. When I started gravel riding, my carbon framed GRX600 bike equipped came with literally 2200gram wheelset with 19mm internal width rims (poor choices were made by mfg on that one), but I knew I would be swapping them out. They lasted long enough for me to figure out what wheels I needed and enough time to build them. Now I have 1300 gram wheels that also make sense for the riding that I do.

[@timdixo]

No 1…integrated cockpits!!! Minimal reach and stack adjustments vs a standard stem. Cost an arm and leg plus faff to swap out. Don’t expect to include the cost of them in resale as the likelihood they’ll suit a new buyer will be remote.

[@donwinston]

Yesterday(Apr 29) bike shop said my big ring(50t) of my Dura Ace 11 speed crank is worn out. They said they can't get a new one until September. Good grief.

[@Drzhounder]

The Roval wheels are much better than the zipps in my opinion.

[@TnFruit]

You can buy bikes in every price point , so there will be bikes for everyone

[@DJJPlus4]

Problem: Super expensive bikes. Solution: Consumers band together and don't buy them...prices come down. Yeah I know, it will never happen. smh

[@mariovr8416]

I agree with the list especially the high priced bikes costing more than the sum of their parts. This has been a trend for at least about 5+ years and is not limited to only top of the line. Look at the bottom end bike with say Tiagra and when you step up to the next model, you pay the base Tiagra price & the full retail for the upgraded groupset. The margin thus increases as you go up the range.

[@joshuafelten6967]

But isn’t this kinda obvious? Maybe I‘m missing something but the bike manufacturers want to make money as well

[@mariovr8416]

@Joshua Felten I have no issue with them making money. I will not have a problem with paying RRP when replacing groupsets, it is the fact that we are getting forced to upgrade frames & groupset and don't have a choice to stick to our older rim brake frames. The other thing is that when it comes to value for money, the extra 2k for 12 speed is not worth it. Speed is determined by how much power you output, not by disc brakes, integrated cables, electronic shifting or if it is 12 speed. Shimano always where based on selling good product and solid engineering and not marketing hype. They still have good product, they just need to loose the marketing hype.

[@Chimy1423]

The trend of bike prices getting ridiculous expensive. In five more years only a few will has the chance to buy a big brand new bicycle.

[@ross88mac]

Thank you for saying Brexit has caused issues. Which it 100% has. I work in supply chain in the automotive sector and Brexit has caused so much damage to our supply loops and economy.

[@matthewlewis2072]

​@John Brown oh dear.

[@bonzobanana1]

Surely it was the huge trade deficit and consequent need to borrow that caused the build up of almost 2 Trillion of debt that we now have to pay back over many decades with interest on top. Importing goods is not a good thing if you are not exporting the same or more goods. We need to manufacture our own goods or at least not import as much. Buying imported cars, bikes etc and taking foreign holidays is damaging to the UK economy and that surely is simple to understand.

[@crazymulgogi]

​@@bonzobanana1 the UK has its own currency and central bank so its trade deficit is irrelevant in that sense. A trade deficit only means that companies abroad like to sell stuff to the UK.

[@bonzobanana1]

@@crazymulgogi How do you think those goods are paid for? By transferring sterling to those countries and depleting sterling in the UK and then the UK is faced with borrowing back sterling and paying interest on top. I'm really surprised anyone can have such a limited understanding of economics. It's like saying there is no financial benefit to China making huge exports around the world and no reduction in living standards for the countries where their manufacturing industry is gone. It's such a weird statement I'm struggling how anyone could write it. You surely must understand when you give your money to someone else you can no longer spend that same money yourself because it now belongs to someone else?

[@crazymulgogi]

@@bonzobanana1 you're confusing households with sovereign states, which is a common confusion but that doesn't make it right. For instance, why do you think importing goods from say China "depletes" sterling in the UK? Surely in China, sterling is useless. So that money will somehow be invested back into the economy of the UK. For every trade surplus in country X there must be a trade deficit in country Y. How can you have one without the other?

[@janeblogs324]

So many white flashbangs in this video

[@andersbjrnskov8130]

What about 12 speed?!

[@sail5820]

3:08 are you talking about all the new "superbikes" that are full of proprietary equipments? :)

[@edmundhodgson2572]

Hang on, don't you and all the other cycling channels bang on about aero trumping weight?

[@2uiator325]

I wish these super expensive bikes that I can build up myself at less cost didn’t exist, but here are all the excuses for why it might be this way: COVID (of course!), world economic problems (of course!), part shortages (of course!), etc., etc. If you’re going to say, “here are bikes I wish didn’t exist”, just say so, don’t make a bunch of excuses for Cannondale and Specialized.

[@robertkujawa3504]

Stop buying speciacrap and shittendale, so they're forced to return to making good value, well engineered bikes. The current state of the market deserves a big collapse, a cleansing.

[@janeblogs324]

They will double down and double the price of their superbikes

[@matthewlewis2072]

I quite like my Spesh. If they're so crap, why do people buy them?

[@jfriesne]

Who to buy from, then?

[@johnmccrossan9376]

Bikes and bike components that cost silly amounts of money. I'm not talking about one off bikes or custom bikes those are their own breed and custom one off anything is always going to be silly expensive but for mass produced general public available bikes there should be some sort of self restraint. When they were first getting to the threshold somebody should have looked at the £5000 price tag on, let's face it a toy, and said no. This is silly, if you're spending more than a couple of grand you should be getting an engine. There should be an unofficial price cap on bikes at around 5k like there used to be for pretty much everything before the mid 2010s. I'm not saying I want everything for free or you shouldn't be allowed to waste your money however you want but the bicycling public at large should have voted with their wallets and made it clear that a bicycle, no matter how well engineered, is not worth car money.

[@JohnWest-k4m]

so should we have a cap on car costs? A rolex does the same as a Casio -, should Rolex not be able to sell watches?

[@ΑλέξανδροςΓεκίλης]

You haven't taken into account than frames and/ or other components aren't readily available for purchase. So you buy what is on for sale or you have to wait a long time. Most definitely I wouldn't keep the stock wheels, that are included, even on a super bike that costs 12k. Most are junk and won't take into account my special needs/weight/power output.

[@erich8258]

The stock wheels on an S-Works " won't take into account my special needs/weight/power output" -- who are you, Chris Hoy?

[@AlexSanzeni]

...and just who pays the full retail price nowadays?

[@FSR2007]

Idk you can get pretty light 31mm alloy rims... Numbs the ride lol 😂

[@mrwhiteshorts]

disc brakes, internal cable routing, press fit bbs, any hy brakes made by Giant.

[@DemiGod..]

With expensive bikes, if you got the money to buy one, the slight extra to have it prebuilt is not an issue, would you build a ferrari yourself to save £300 ? You missed one benefit of deep section wheels, they will keep you busy in crosswinds. A benefit of cheap bikes is that nobody is going to want to steel them.

[@polyrhythmia]

I actually miss rim brakes, at least on road bikes.

[@user-cx2bk6pm2f]

Brilliant commentary. Agree 100%!

[@mahonah]

I appreciate your opinion but for the most part yours is a 1st world problem.

[@ilovephotography1254]

Cheep/Disposable are bad, but Disposable e-bikes are the worst.

[@ro4jo]

Some cheap bikes are crap but there a starting point for some, but if everyone stopped buying the the 2nd hand price would go though the roof

[@adamweb]

So $200 and $13,000 bikes aren't worth it, buy somewhere in the middle? 😆

[@yonglingng5640]

Yes. You don't have to kill your bank account, but you can't not set a lower budget limit or set an excessively low one.

[@matthewlewis2072]

A bit like cars. Cheap cars are junk, super expensive ones are pointless...

[@troycollett8540]

Yeah you can build it for less but the companies need to make a profit as they can’t sell it for purchase price

[@shawnsee2688]

Bikes are expensive because people buy them on credit. It's stupid how much these things go for.

[@ro4jo]

If everyone started buying 2nd hand instead of cheap bike the 2nd hand price would rise dur to the demand anyway pricing more people out 😂

[@richardcarr6493]

NO NEED FOR SUPER DEEP WHEELS or fully integrated cables/hoses& bar n stem combos NOR overpriced groupsets and parts WE know where they re made and for how cheap !! JUST STOP RIPPING US OFF ALREADY !!

[@gregbianchi2689]

ALL E road bikes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@desk-kun]

Your thoughts on electric mountainbikes and electric commuter bikes?

[@matthewlewis2072]

Why

[@akaraikiriakatsuki3157]

Carbon mountain bike frame.

[@pizzathehut2001]

The fact that you upgrade to carbon wheels, makes the bike build v expensive bike even more in favour of build as you would cross over the upgrade wheels not buy a new set,

[@jayw900]

This entire video feels like discount gcn.

[@1a2b3c4.]

Is much better..... Those comments are what makes bikes so expensive. What proof do you have.... Some say ? Come on now.

[@herculesrockefeller8969]

Thank you, Sam Gupta!

[@Niala8419]

Teo words, press fit...

[@kalzier1990]

Plastic/Alu tri spokes wheels from aliexpress bikes.

[@michaelfasher]

Disk brakes on road bikes are shit.

[@TK-nc3ou]

Aero tubes are too ugly

[@hugobrown2516]

Who cares.