50+ New Yun Tal Interactions - Bel'Veth E, Twitch Ult, Viego Q and More!

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Күн бұрын

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Chapters:
00:00 - Does it stack?
00:25 - Bel'Veth E
01:05 - Jinx Q
01:16 - Twitch R
01:34 - Hurricane
01:45 - Yasuo Q
02:06 - Yone Q
02:12 - Towers
02:31 - Briar W
02:39 - Urgot W
02:46 - Zeri Q
03:01 - Zeri Q + E
03:08 - Zeri W
03:13 - Graves Passive
03:18 - Aphelios Severum
03:26 - Aphelios Infernum
03:32 - Aphelios off-hand
03:42 - Aphelios Tower
03:48 - Sivir W
03:54 - Empowered Pantheon W
04:01 - Bel'Veth Q
04:07 - Ashe Passive
04:13 - Ashe W
04:20 - Gangplank Q
04:25 - Gangplank E
04:31 - Fiora E
04:38 - Nilah Q
04:44 - Miss Fortune Q
04:49 - Miss Fortune Ult
04:58 - Shaco Passive + Q
05:08 - Rengar Q
05:18 - Talon Q
05:23 - Garen Q
05:28 - Garen E
05:33 - Samira Q
05:39 - Samira Ult
05:44 - Master Yi Passive
05:50 - Master Yi Q
05:56 - Vi E
06:01 - Kayle Passive
06:07 - Jayce W
06:16 - Shyvana Q
06:22 - Viego Q
06:28 - Lucian Passive
06:35 - Akshan Passive
06:40 - Jhin Ult
06:53 - Sundered Sky
07:11 - Rageblade
07:30 - Shadowflame
07:37 - Fake Crits
07:43 - Additional Bug
08:06 - Yun Tal vs. IE
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@HextechLab
@HextechLab Ай бұрын
Timestamps: 00:00 - Does it stack? 00:25 - Bel'Veth E 01:05 - Jinx Q 01:16 - Twitch R 01:34 - Hurricane 01:45 - Yasuo Q 02:06 - Yone Q 02:12 - Towers 02:31 - Briar W 02:39 - Urgot W 02:46 - Zeri Q 03:01 - Zeri Q + E 03:08 - Zeri W 03:13 - Graves Passive 03:18 - Aphelios Severum 03:26 - Aphelios Infernum 03:32 - Aphelios off-hand 03:42 - Aphelios Tower 03:48 - Sivir W 03:54 - Empowered Pantheon W 04:01 - Bel'Veth Q 04:07 - Ashe Passive 04:13 - Ashe W 04:20 - Gangplank Q 04:25 - Gangplank E 04:31 - Fiora E 04:38 - Nilah Q 04:44 - Miss Fortune Q 04:49 - Miss Fortune Ult 04:58 - Shaco Passive + Q 05:08 - Rengar Q 05:18 - Talon Q 05:23 - Garen Q 05:28 - Garen E 05:33 - Samira Q 05:39 - Samira Ult 05:44 - Master Yi Passive 05:50 - Master Yi Q 05:56 - Vi E 06:01 - Kayle Passive 06:07 - Jayce W 06:16 - Shyvana Q 06:22 - Viego Q 06:28 - Lucian Passive 06:35 - Akshan Passive 06:40 - Jhin Ult 06:53 - Sundered Sky 07:11 - Rageblade 07:30 - Shadowflame 07:37 - Fake Crits 07:43 - Additional Bug 08:06 - Yun Tal vs. IE
@SkinShowcase-zm3rs
@SkinShowcase-zm3rs Ай бұрын
Great video! Always helpful.
@reaprsoza4656
@reaprsoza4656 Ай бұрын
does chakram passive stack it?
@yun754
@yun754 Ай бұрын
where us kata ?
@houki6776
@houki6776 Ай бұрын
How about yasuo E+Q
@SkinShowcase-zm3rs
@SkinShowcase-zm3rs Ай бұрын
@@houki6776 I will check
@NCognito
@NCognito Ай бұрын
The only requirements for Yun Tal to apply are that the damage critically strikes and the damage applies On-hit effects. Every ability interaction shown is functioning how it should, except for two: Shaco Q and Akshan Passive. They critically strike, and they apply on-hits, so what's the deal? After doing a little testing, I found out something: THEY ARE FAKE CRITS. They are completely ignored by the "Critical Resilience" passive on Randuin's Omen. Although the descriptions say "the attack critically strikes" like every other ability that crits, the damage is only reduced by the "Rock Solid" passive. That's why Shaco Q only applies the burn if he has actual crit chance, cause the original Attack crits, not the Q. So, if you've been building Randuin's Omen into a Crit Akshan, you are actually getting trolled by riot and taking about 12.24% more damage than you should be taking! If you've been playing Crit Shaco, you actually do more damage if you backstab someone with Q and DON'T crit. At 173ad, a Q backstab does 322 damage, "increased" to 255 if you crit naturally! How awesome, I love Riot Games :)
@Bigkingnecromancer
@Bigkingnecromancer Ай бұрын
Thanks for the research fellow faceless one Can Shaco Q double crit? As in natural backstab plus a crit from critchance?
@Briezar
@Briezar Ай бұрын
​@@Bigkingnecromancer if 2 crit effects overlap, the higher damage is applied.
@clovened4351
@clovened4351 Ай бұрын
holy fuck
@Briezar
@Briezar Ай бұрын
ackshually the technical term is "cosmetic crit" ☝️🤓
@ceyx1201
@ceyx1201 Ай бұрын
I mean with this analysis, you should make your own vid.
@pedromilesprouwer1283
@pedromilesprouwer1283 Ай бұрын
Belveth 💀
@Yenandorr
@Yenandorr Ай бұрын
with guinsoo 💀💀💀
@LeLouisLafontaine
@LeLouisLafontaine Ай бұрын
@@Yenandorr omg yeah, guinsoo 💀💀💀
@HextechLab
@HextechLab Ай бұрын
@@Yenandorr imagine Riot wouldn't have backed out of the melee Runaan's changes...
@dariusfilip4695
@dariusfilip4695 Ай бұрын
belveth eating good this patch
@user-xh1on8qt3g
@user-xh1on8qt3g Ай бұрын
Useless item on bel, no hp and bel doesnt build crit
@DillonMeyer
@DillonMeyer Ай бұрын
For Ashe, with JUST the arrows, your hits on targets slowed by her passive will always apply it, as her passive simply makes every hit a crit with severely reduced crit damage. It's worded to say it doesn't crit, but coded to always crit, even with 0% crit. The damage scales with both crit damage and chance. One thing you didn't touch on is if her autos after activating q apply it multiple times as it is multiple hits.
@Stachelbeeerchen
@Stachelbeeerchen Ай бұрын
Only Ashe's first arrow of a Q autoattack applies on-hit so it only applies once per auto.
@DillonMeyer
@DillonMeyer Ай бұрын
@@Stachelbeeerchen Makes sense.
@sentro5382
@sentro5382 Ай бұрын
are you sure? im not sure that's the case. I thought ashe DID have crit chance, her crits just multiply the slow instead of dealing bonus damage (given her bonus damage is applied to already frosted targets as she builds crit chance). Remember that just because there's a crit icon doesnt mean an attack or ability crits, riot often use it to add satisfaction and clarity to bonus damage amplification.
@afterlyte
@afterlyte Ай бұрын
That's not how her passive works. Her attacks apply Frost which slows and causes subsequent hits to do bonus damage scaling with crit chance/crit damage multiplier. She still has standard crit chance, but instead of doing bonus damage it increases the slow from the Frost. It will still only apply the item burn on attacks that actually crit and apply that stronger slow, the only exception being her W which is a "cosmetic" crit that simply is there to show that her W always applies that stronger slow, but isn't actually a critical attack
@Flechashe
@Flechashe Ай бұрын
No, Ashe critically strikes like any champion in the game, she simply deals no bonus damage when she crits and instead applies a stronger slow. To compensate the damage she deals bonus damage to Frosted enemies, which is further increased by crit chance and crit damage, but that doesn't mean it's a critical strike.
@Camiddle
@Camiddle Ай бұрын
As far as I can tell, it just seems like it checks to see if both a crit has occurred and an on hit is applied in the same instance, and you *should* be able to just make a list of abilities that can do both? Like, it makes sense that Urgot W wouldn't apply, because while it applies on hits, it can never crit. On the flip side, it explains why Twitch R bullets and Hurricane projectiles both apply the burn, given that both sources can crit and apply on hits. Jinx rockets/Zeri Q only apply on hits to the primary target, so even though they can crit multiple, only the target that can be hit by both in the same instance would take the burn. A few of the comments seem to think it's just rolling the dice for each champion, but I think if you know how said champions work, you should be able to accurately guess which champions/items/abilities it works on pretty easily. The only ones I'm surprised about is Shaco Q not proccing unless it was a rolled crit rather than forced and Akshan 2nd auto, but I suspect that's just classic spaghetti code. Thanks for reading, and while I can't promise it's the case, I think it's close enough to the truth that it's worth mentioning! (also I love the content, as always, and thanks for showing!
@saul2416
@saul2416 Ай бұрын
We should also test if each of ashe's q bullet count or if it is like zeri and only the first bullet is checked for the crit (ashes q bullets roll for crit individually, so im talking about not having the 100% crit)
@Camiddle
@Camiddle Ай бұрын
@@saul2416 I think it's almost definitely just one proc per auto, given that she only applies one instance of on hit per auto regardless of her flurry count.
@NCognito
@NCognito Ай бұрын
dropped a longer reply in the comments somewhere, but basically Akshan and Shaco both have fake crits, even though the ability descriptions word it as if they are "real" crits, and every other ability worded that way function correctly
@HextechLab
@HextechLab Ай бұрын
Yes on-hit effects + crit is the requirement (and Akshan and Shaco are not real crits which is very surprising as NCognito pointed out). Still, I think the most important result for gameplay from this video is that modifiers like Bel'Veth E and Aphelios Severum which normally balance the insane amount of attacks are not applied to the burn. This makes it very strong on these champions (and useless on everybody else). After testing 5 or 10 champions I probably could have just stopped and concluded that on-hit effects + crit is the requirement. After testing a few champions with modifiers I could have also concluded that all modifiers are not applied. But at that point I just wanted to show all interactions, especially the strong ones. Which is good, since otherwise I wouldn't have found Akshan who I tested almost last. Sadly, I was so sure that Akshan is a real crit that I just thought that there are some real crits who don't apply and that it is just kind of random, so I did not put on-hit effects and crit as a requirement in a final conclusion into the video.
@nickschaus7785
@nickschaus7785 Ай бұрын
Along your same lines of "If you know how they work", Shaco Q is a visual crit but not an actual critical strike. The most common example, mage spells with shadowflame ,'look' like crits, but really they are just damage modifiers and are not true critical strikes unless the attack itself was a crit. The only shockers in this video are the damage is not reduced by onhit reduction modifiers like belveth passive/e (This will likely be added before release or else this item will only be viable on like 3 champs and terrible for everyone else or viable for others and those champs will be permabanned) and that akshan passive does not work. Last one is just weird because it applies on-hit/on-attack effects and can critically strike, so there should really be no reason something like that wouldn't apply the effect twice.
@VocalMabiMaple
@VocalMabiMaple Ай бұрын
This item is just a knowledge check item lmao
@sadjhin103
@sadjhin103 Ай бұрын
Don't forget, we're back to our original Crit Damage bonus of 225% with Infinity Edge. Yasuo and Yone, Rengar and Tryn are going to see a significant uptick in play with those items to deal with slippery enemies. Rengar and Graves are going to be utilizing this item since their crits are stronger with their usual building lethality.
@6athory858
@6athory858 Ай бұрын
we are not going to be using this on rengar man
@torahama362
@torahama362 Ай бұрын
Graves too won't be utilizing this well imo. Cause the dot stacks, the best users are the one who attack fast, even better if they use hurricane.
@SwoggersLOL
@SwoggersLOL Ай бұрын
no. yas wr tanked after tempo nerfs. and ie had 225 since patch 14.6, which still didnt improve his wr. yone is still yone, so people will always win with him. I expect windshitter brother's winrate to tank since Tempo wont exist and they'll be forced to use inferior conq
@freshlymemed5680
@freshlymemed5680 Ай бұрын
@@SwoggersLOL Winrate is gonna tank for the people who relied on it and even then all it did was give them early game advantage. Now they have slower early game but once they get tier 2 boots its back to the same bs but this time they do even more damage.
@andyvirus2300
@andyvirus2300 Ай бұрын
@@freshlymemed5680even with that early game rune they were shit, so considering it is being removed, well lot of games are going to be finished before they are able to do anything
@InnerTriggerer
@InnerTriggerer 28 күн бұрын
How about Shadowflame WITH Katarina R and passive? seem like criteria is Apply on hit AND can Crit. Since the spells are already apply on hit adding "can crit" item might make it work ?
@soniclechat2825
@soniclechat2825 Ай бұрын
so it's an on-hit effect that olny porc if the attack is a crit also for shadow flame, use it with a spell that applies on hit like WW Q
@frequenista
@frequenista Ай бұрын
2 minutes ago lesgooo!!! The Bel interaction is crazy tho, I wonder if it will become meta for her
@donange-louisorsini8062
@donange-louisorsini8062 14 күн бұрын
does it prock with the crit the yorick's ghoul do when you hit someone with his E ?
@travisatessier
@travisatessier 29 күн бұрын
It's always so interesting to see what does and doesn't qualify for meeting certain conditions in this game.
@renneverbright
@renneverbright 29 күн бұрын
can Senna's Q apply the burn? I'm fairly certain it just can't crit, though the wiki says that the code just applies a basic attack to all champions hit by it, but just wanted to check
@pamdabeep
@pamdabeep Ай бұрын
Sooooo it's just old draven passive in item form, but better. Right.
@Rigele100
@Rigele100 Ай бұрын
yes, at the moment i have seen this item the very first time, im instant remember the old draven passiv
@patty4449
@patty4449 Ай бұрын
7:58 Yea check out your timer in the top right corner, it counts 2-09, 2-10, 2-10, 2-11 That bug is related to the old bug of false time... The clock in the top right is the ingame time which on the regular counts a second double, during this second tons of bugs happen.... This bug has existed since season one and is yet to be fixed... Ever...
@balrg
@balrg Ай бұрын
Whatt?!
@drinkingguy3168
@drinkingguy3168 Ай бұрын
Can't seem to google it, can you give us the name of the bug?
@VegetaPixel
@VegetaPixel Ай бұрын
No? Maybe this bug exists but this sure isn't an example of it. It switches from 2:09 to 2:10 at 7:55 and 2:10 to 2:11 at 7:56.
@KhangTran-df1qx
@KhangTran-df1qx Ай бұрын
I wanna ask, can you build IE with navori now since navori lose the damage amp
@georgyhoodini325
@georgyhoodini325 29 күн бұрын
What about yasuo E Q combo? does it apply on every target hit or just one?
@haannguyen8749
@haannguyen8749 28 күн бұрын
GP autos apply both his passive and the item passive which burn you true damage and crit damage, combine with first strike.
@gerjose3944
@gerjose3944 29 күн бұрын
So it’s just a twitch 4th item? (also maybe jinx) bc viego and velveth aren’t building crit
@somaundead964
@somaundead964 26 күн бұрын
a good question would be does gangplank's barrels apply them alone?
@amethonys2798
@amethonys2798 Ай бұрын
"Stacking" is a bit of a misconception and I think people are getting the wrong idea down here. It is moreso not overriding previous applications so you aren't punished for applying multiple instances. Each "stack" is treated individually and independent of others.
@Zwodo
@Zwodo Ай бұрын
I'm surprised we didn't get to see Aphelios' Chakrams. Or the interaction with healing reduction, which is only minor, but still. Thanks for your efforts, this was super interesting! I thought from the get-go that this item would need a hotfix buff because it's garbage, but it looks like it might have some unique use-cases. Although Bel'Veth looked a bit too insane ☠
@scamkick
@scamkick Ай бұрын
Aphelios’ chakrams only apply burn once, consider it the same interaction as Zeri’s AA
@Stachelbeeerchen
@Stachelbeeerchen Ай бұрын
I think Aphelios's Chakrams apply on-hit once just like the jinx rocket and sivir W did.
@edaxnex1560
@edaxnex1560 Ай бұрын
Shyv empowered q applies on hit to multiple enemies. I suggest trying that out. Since if it works,you could apply this to the entire enemy team
@spicytunah8043
@spicytunah8043 28 күн бұрын
Her Dragon form Q can only crit once, it can’t crit both times. You’re better off going with something else. The current Liandry’s build on her works just fine for this purpose.
@Frightning
@Frightning 18 күн бұрын
hmm, Akshan double autos *not* applying Yun Tal's passive seems like a bug/oversight given that it applies other on-hits twice (or is this item treated as *on attack*?)
@jae7798
@jae7798 Ай бұрын
Does ashe's passive work on this? If her target is affected by frost shot, she deals crit damage on her AAs. She can basically proc this everytime building this first.
@saul2416
@saul2416 Ай бұрын
You can actually tell when ashe crits. The slow is bigger when the attack crits(the font tells that too). The damage modifier is a completely different thing. What we should test is if her q works (each individual bullet) since they are considered separately by crit chance and you can pretty much garantee the bigger slow with 25 crit on every auto
@PinHeadSupliciumwtf
@PinHeadSupliciumwtf Ай бұрын
Thought the same
@Stachelbeeerchen
@Stachelbeeerchen Ай бұрын
These are "fake" crits. Ashe can actually critically strike but it only affects her slow so you can critically slow. I think this item will work when you critically slow someone. Otherwise it would be busted.
@Stachelbeeerchen
@Stachelbeeerchen Ай бұрын
​@@saul2416Ashe's tooltip of her Q specifically says that only the first arrow of her Q volley applies on-hit. So only the first tick of one auto will apply the burn.
@dfrostbite4327
@dfrostbite4327 Ай бұрын
I wonder if the new zephyr counts towards kalista's passive jump distance
@Scotch20
@Scotch20 Ай бұрын
Does wukong w apply the burn, and it is reduced?
@navi5324
@navi5324 28 күн бұрын
Will it work on Teemo E with shadowflame?
@crydegolem4135
@crydegolem4135 18 күн бұрын
Yun tal procs on “Basic Damage” types, usually in the form of an auto, can apply on hit effects (the 1st condition usually guarantees they already do) and it must be able to crit/ have a crit modifier. If something doesn’t apply the burn that you thought would, then that something might be a different damage type that doesn’t work, doesn’t apply on hits or isn’t capable of crits. Sourced from the LoL fandom wiki. Edit: forgot to mention that a cosmetic crit doesn’t count (it is used for clarity on damage increase due to conditions within the ability itself), similar to Karthus’ Q on single targets and which should include shaco Q.
@ayas5050
@ayas5050 Ай бұрын
what about aphelios's stacked chakram autos? or his ult?
@slloyd9892
@slloyd9892 Ай бұрын
Hmm wonder if Yorick's ghouls apply it? Or is it ranged on hit only?
@wielbladtibijski
@wielbladtibijski 20 күн бұрын
ITS CRIT YOU DONKEY
@TukangReport
@TukangReport 21 күн бұрын
Of all the items, even in the recent update, the damage from everything is still sick and seems to require some balancing on several items and the abilities of the champions.
@hunteradams3269
@hunteradams3269 Ай бұрын
Is this like old draven passive where on crit and q hits they would bleed?
@Tiksny161
@Tiksny161 12 күн бұрын
if you put shadowflame on kata and use her passive, shouldnt it work? It crits and does on hit damage. Same for R
@Sol-gl3nl
@Sol-gl3nl 25 күн бұрын
yasuo and yone q only apply on hit effects to first target affected, so its normal.
@XxHumnanxX1
@XxHumnanxX1 Ай бұрын
what about akshan any it seems to work on him but doesnt stack on e
@puregameplay7916
@puregameplay7916 5 күн бұрын
Rushing this right after a sheen on my jungle wukong has been insane. Finish it, finish trinity force, throw an infinity edge on top, and then last item is situational, either phantom dancer or blade of the ruined king. If im facing a WW jungle or a briar or yi, I build executioners calling right after the sheen, completely shuts down their healing. Finish it into mortal reminder as my situational item right after the infinity edge. Wukongs never felt so powerful lol.
@caseykong158
@caseykong158 Ай бұрын
do stacked aphelios chakrams apply the burn? Aphelios can stack up to 20 chakrams and each one can crit.
@Stachelbeeerchen
@Stachelbeeerchen Ай бұрын
Like with other adc's probably not since abilities with multiple dmg instances only apply on hit once.
@kassaken6521
@kassaken6521 12 күн бұрын
Yuntal Twitch with runnans is actually crazy. Its the new static shiv burst
@viket8316
@viket8316 Ай бұрын
you forget about smolder since he transform crits into damage
@xaviergoulet-samoisette6023
@xaviergoulet-samoisette6023 28 күн бұрын
Yeah but it's fairly clear: Smolder's Q does not crit, its damage is *increased by crit chance. So it presumably doesn't work
@bahamutzero4903
@bahamutzero4903 28 күн бұрын
Just what I want in my crit build; 50 burn damage. Wow.
@Lilybun
@Lilybun Ай бұрын
on-attack with crit conditional. think "can this apply runaans and crit" and it's pretty easy to understand at least for ranged.
@user-vn8wl7ch7c
@user-vn8wl7ch7c 29 күн бұрын
does it work on aatrox q crits?
@Ris4RogueYGO
@Ris4RogueYGO 29 күн бұрын
Would this work with rek sai E?
@KrnKiiD
@KrnKiiD 25 күн бұрын
What about with Gangplank passive or barrels?
@va3lan992
@va3lan992 22 күн бұрын
ty for doing that but u forget katarina r and her dagger passive (sundered sky + this item),and akali e (sundered sky + this item),with that skills both of them can proc sundered sky both of them can crit that way ,and the item can proc the yun tal passive
@my4stringsandme
@my4stringsandme Ай бұрын
I was kinda hoping it would proc on shadowflame. That would lead to some entertaining builds.
@NikolaNiKucu
@NikolaNiKucu Ай бұрын
But, did you try Galio's passive smash with it? That one can crit!
@dizzyheads
@dizzyheads 17 күн бұрын
Only the main target
@RavenDumpster
@RavenDumpster Ай бұрын
cant wait to have this and IE on lethality senna :)
@zenonyadon1918
@zenonyadon1918 16 күн бұрын
Does it work on akshan swing?
@KontrolYT
@KontrolYT Ай бұрын
The best use I can see of it over IE is on fast attacking champs fighting tanks with thornmail and randuins, you would rely less on high damage crits that would get blocked and reflected more by thornmail and instead you could stack more damage with a burn. I could be wrong though, would have to test.
@HextechLab
@HextechLab Ай бұрын
Thornmail does not reflect damage based on damage dealt anymore since quite some time.
@santi3256
@santi3256 Ай бұрын
Yun tal do AD damage so still the same. This item is just trash, i see only a good use on twitch and belveth (but belveth not gonna build it because crit belveth is just troll.
@KontrolYT
@KontrolYT Ай бұрын
@@HextechLab I meant that it could maybe require less autos to do more damage as you could get damage off with burn instead of just auto attacks, but I'm not sure if it would actually reduce the amount of autos required because you lose the extra crit damage.
@KontrolYT
@KontrolYT Ай бұрын
@@santi3256 Yes but the damage from the item doesn't crit, which is why I thought it would be better than IE against randuins because randuins reduces crit damage.
@santi3256
@santi3256 Ай бұрын
@@KontrolYT Well that makes sense. But still not worth the damage difference wouldnt be too much and it would only work against the champ that have randuim.
@haymon05
@haymon05 24 күн бұрын
Azir with shadowflame stack yun tal passive ?
@rodrigoacha
@rodrigoacha Ай бұрын
it would work with Udyr's empowered Q?
@jannikwesthues1972
@jannikwesthues1972 Ай бұрын
love you Videos. but try to get the text langer in the Video so i can read without having to pause the Video. other than that great job once again
@zerikiryuin4787
@zerikiryuin4787 28 күн бұрын
So they made a Crit Adc item, That Work on half of the Adc.. But Work Greatly good For fighter Bruiser?
@Jiroscopio_
@Jiroscopio_ 21 күн бұрын
Nah the biggest abuser will be Aphelios, Bel'Veth doesn't want to go crit
@anthonyosei-kufuor2784
@anthonyosei-kufuor2784 Ай бұрын
People need to understand that while it has some really strong interactions, you should realize that with these interactions it might see some play and even then it gets outshined by a good number of other crit items (Especially IE). However if it doesn't stack, the item won't see play AT ALL, since the entire appeal of it was that it stacks a lot and does a good bit of DoT as well. People screaming to get this changed should realize the implications of it. The item ceases to see any real use if it gets changed.
@curydude
@curydude Ай бұрын
they should rebalance it so it doesnt rely on niche interactions to be viable and instead doesnt stack but the burn is stronger and/or doesnt need crit and on-hit to be applied
@dooddoingstuff
@dooddoingstuff 29 күн бұрын
​@@curydude maybe it could just be an on hit, that gets increased damage when you crit? Sounds better for consistency
@CorpseGodX
@CorpseGodX 28 күн бұрын
Nah it would be garbage if that were the case its not ment for everyone just like how some adcs go crit and others on hit it just comes down to your champions skill set
@anthonyosei-kufuor2784
@anthonyosei-kufuor2784 28 күн бұрын
Issue is this item is made for people who do multiple crits at a time realistically, hence Belveth and Ashe being decent candidates. Other crit champs kill you with the crit they have pretty quickly. So quickly that it really isnt worth getting the itme anyways and youd rather just get IE to one shot better.
@firelynx1266
@firelynx1266 23 күн бұрын
i mean looking at the item, it seems its riots way of adding back the missing crit dmg to adc without making them too burst heavy. Placates persons that complained about adc's losing 200% crits.
@RexRagerunner
@RexRagerunner Ай бұрын
Yooo, they made Draven's old passive an item!
@TheDarkKing98XD
@TheDarkKing98XD Ай бұрын
does it work on yorick e?
@sadjhin103
@sadjhin103 Ай бұрын
Damn, didn't think IU'd see the day that my beloved item,Y̶u̶n̶ T̶a̶l̶ W̶i̶l̶d̶a̶r̶r̶o̶w̶s̶ Lightbringer would be back.
@Pigraider268
@Pigraider268 29 күн бұрын
Wait what?
@sadjhin103
@sadjhin103 29 күн бұрын
@@Pigraider268 Look it up. This new item is based off that old one.
@AlienSliker
@AlienSliker 29 күн бұрын
So it works just like onhit. But does it mean that belveth E can oneshot just with bork?
@Flechashe
@Flechashe Ай бұрын
The burn is not affected by Bel'Veth's E modifier but it IS affected by her innate 75% damage modifier on basic attacks
@tazotazo8969
@tazotazo8969 18 күн бұрын
wished to see if shyvannas ult q applies yun tai to every thing it hits
@hoangao5487
@hoangao5487 10 күн бұрын
was hoping so much for sivir W to work, damn it
@renzjocefnavarro5001
@renzjocefnavarro5001 Ай бұрын
yeah how about ashe with runans hurricane q active ? I'm talking about the unique interaction where ashe can attack multiple targets with runaans hurricane with q activated
@jinxclaessen1544
@jinxclaessen1544 Ай бұрын
wow the item works as inteded amazing
@OtoriDaisuke
@OtoriDaisuke 28 күн бұрын
So bel with yun tal+rageblade will be stupidly broken?
@rafaelshindy4350
@rafaelshindy4350 Ай бұрын
can it stack black cleaver passive?
@ebobab9564
@ebobab9564 Ай бұрын
it's crazy it doesn't proc on shadowflame consdiering that in Arena you can proc hamstring/divine sunderer with abilities that crit via jeweled gauntlet
@igorzukow859
@igorzukow859 Ай бұрын
What with ashe q? And she apply it every time even with 25% crit chances cuz of her passive? To much questions
@Stachelbeeerchen
@Stachelbeeerchen Ай бұрын
Nope. Her passive is a separate form of crit. She can regularly crit with no extra dmg but a critical slow which they use for the effect. Also her Q only proce on-hit once.
@KodamaVictor
@KodamaVictor 27 күн бұрын
You forgot about Katarina’s passive and Ult, which I think are gonna be one of the most busted ones 😮
@Cat-kv7jo
@Cat-kv7jo 25 күн бұрын
We were blessed by gods with that garen e not applying stacks
@accountname902
@accountname902 Ай бұрын
I would have liked to see if a forced crit from Shadowflame would work on abilities that apply on-hits, such as Evelynn's E, since the rule seems to be "It must both crit and apply on-hits"
@firelynx1266
@firelynx1266 23 күн бұрын
no, it states critical attacks, so only autos. unless weird bug/interaction.
@accountname902
@accountname902 23 күн бұрын
@@firelynx1266 right, but other abilities like belveth's e can apply it
@firelynx1266
@firelynx1266 22 күн бұрын
@@accountname902 Belveth's E is a basic attack modifier, so she still auto attacks during E. Shadowflame is weird tho, since it does interact with IE but only on the extra dmg.
@maelstrom9727
@maelstrom9727 Ай бұрын
Does it apply on Pantheon Q when the target is below 20%?
@HextechLab
@HextechLab Ай бұрын
Haven't tested it, but Pantheon Q is only a fake (visual) crit, so it shouldn't apply the burn.
@markos50100
@markos50100 Ай бұрын
Unless an ability is treated like an auto attack, no ability, regardless of crits, triggers it.
@Stachelbeeerchen
@Stachelbeeerchen Ай бұрын
Pantheon's q doesn't proc on-hit. So nope.
@ancientflean7594
@ancientflean7594 Ай бұрын
i thought it was a new cham, i didn't recognize the camp on thumbnail
@crydegolem4135
@crydegolem4135 18 күн бұрын
May be worth noting Ashe’s interaction with Yun Tal is still constrained by if she would hit a crit without her passive, she still won’t proc it consistently without 100% crit.
@lordmonocr6206
@lordmonocr6206 Ай бұрын
Urgot w can’t e it anyways so that makes sense why it wouldn’t work
@lilliacaridadgardner6903
@lilliacaridadgardner6903 Ай бұрын
Basically, it's Liandry's torment in ad
@mzn8008
@mzn8008 Ай бұрын
So warwick R will be broken?
@gabubfmvforever
@gabubfmvforever Ай бұрын
So a full crit Twitch with this item + Liandry must be fun
@hoangdoanh2100
@hoangdoanh2100 Ай бұрын
I think as long as its crit and apply on-hit effect then it should procs YunTal
@Stachelbeeerchen
@Stachelbeeerchen Ай бұрын
That's in deed how it works. Yet Shaco and Akshan should proc it but don't for no reason other than spaghetti.
@skelet8337
@skelet8337 Ай бұрын
Yun tal+titanic hydra bel veth seems scary
@KIN65UPER
@KIN65UPER Ай бұрын
I'm glad they removed the item from ARAM and brought it here. The old look of the item is present in the arena mode, but its features are different.
@kraftyevan
@kraftyevan 22 күн бұрын
I think this will be way stronger on rengar than people think. He can go Hubris into Yun Tal + Passive AD. His AD is so extremely high it will give really strong burn
@giatoannguyen8172
@giatoannguyen8172 Ай бұрын
I was wondering if Rammus is gonna benefits from this update
@TheWasylator
@TheWasylator Ай бұрын
Wasn't Draven's original passive a bleed on crit and they changed it cause of how strong it was :thinkingemoji:
@samuelpaulin4710
@samuelpaulin4710 Ай бұрын
What about ashe q ?
@TvoyKami
@TvoyKami 17 күн бұрын
Лайк за проделанную работу)
@QverSoul
@QverSoul 16 күн бұрын
Does Xin W apply?
@Trashy560
@Trashy560 Ай бұрын
what about aatrox q?
@earthsauce696
@earthsauce696 29 күн бұрын
samira abilities like q and ult should apply it because they can crit
@-furiel2808
@-furiel2808 Ай бұрын
Basically counted like on-hit effect
@RK99KR
@RK99KR Ай бұрын
This new item with collector seems strong.
@klydemeneses5559
@klydemeneses5559 29 күн бұрын
Aphelios' R also applies bleed
@natsudragneel977
@natsudragneel977 16 күн бұрын
I was so excited to use this on samira…. :(
@SpielMitMirSession
@SpielMitMirSession 27 күн бұрын
I was curious about Xayah feather hits...
@Jester_Advocate
@Jester_Advocate Ай бұрын
Ashe q? And yasuo r? Does it work on both of them?
@markos50100
@markos50100 Ай бұрын
No, they don't. The ability says it will deal bonus damage by the ability itself. Ashe used to have this interaction before people started spamming manamune on her because her q would deal 5+ procs of damage from the item. Yasuo r is just an ability, so it won't apply.
@kauanjos3199
@kauanjos3199 Ай бұрын
Ash by nature can't crit so it doesn't work for her
@Stachelbeeerchen
@Stachelbeeerchen Ай бұрын
​@@kauanjos3199yes she can. Please read her passive more carefully. If she crits she applies a stronger slow.
@Stachelbeeerchen
@Stachelbeeerchen Ай бұрын
Only First damage instance of ashe Q procs on-hit. Yasuo ult doesn't apply anything, neither crit nor on-hit.
@SirCrusher
@SirCrusher Ай бұрын
Does this item lock you out of infinity edge?
@wackozacko1999
@wackozacko1999 17 күн бұрын
does shyvana q apply it twice?
@wackozacko1999
@wackozacko1999 17 күн бұрын
nvm just saw it
@SunBuddyy
@SunBuddyy 18 күн бұрын
What about Akshan E?
@jdwild0696
@jdwild0696 25 күн бұрын
Im gonna assume senna q would proc it but only on clicked target…?
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