500mm/s Helmet Class - Artillery Sidewinder X4 Plus 3D Printer

Highly anticipated - the Artillery Sidewinder X4 Plus - helmet class, Klipper 3D printer is here! Take a look!
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Links from the video.
Koopa
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Bulbasaur
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00:00 Intro
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[@0xdreadnaught]

as a security engineer, thank you so much lol. I think you're the first person I've ever heard even remotely mention securing the web frontend to prevent someone from just ramming the nozzle into the bed over and over

[@LoyalMoses]

Thank you! 🔥 I spent 20+ years in infosec myself - I have SOOOO much to say, we'll have content on all of these problems soon!

[@0xdreadnaught]

@@LoyalMoses very nice. and I can't wait. I really started to get pissed at the industry when I bought a sonic pad about 2 months ago. needless to say I can't recommend anyone buy one. if that ever ends up as a topic I can shoot you a list

[@LoyalMoses]

It's crazy how so many people overlook the security issues right in front of them, but are so quick to judge the printer companies that are working on it. Likely an experience or skill issue, but still, security needs some focus here.

[@0xdreadnaught]

I'm sure it's a mixture of things.maybe when I actually have more time and money than ideas I'll pick up a handful of printers on their way to the trash and test some PoC ideas.

[@Gepstra]

Yeah I'm sure all the people on my LAN will fuck this printer up.

[@802Garage]

I really like the way the Y carriage linear rails are beefy, spread apart, and close to the bed on this machine. The gantry being well supported and braced is good too. Given this has 50mm more height than the Comgrow T300 and is over $100 cheaper even which Comgrow coupons, I think this is a much better deal.

[@LoyalMoses]

Machines are getting so much better and changing soooooo fast!

[@jimskinner2777]

Great content as always. I can see this channel picking up serious steam.

[@LoyalMoses]

Thank you very much!

[@TripodsGarage]

It is a great machine! Someday I will print a helmet 😂. Great video Loyal!

[@LoyalMoses]

Thanks! And, do it!!! Helmet time!

[@mikbites9091]

Haha😂.... I was wondering what was ment with helmet class printer....

[@LoyalMoses]

Helmet class! Anything over 300mm cubed!

[@jedispidey]

Instead of big printer means big filament losses, I look at it as big printer means bigger completed projects in one shot. But seriously, appreciate the video. Definitely would be an upgrade to my CR10 Smart Pro w/ same dimensions as far as print volume goes. Thanks for the security tidbit as well. As a new user to Klipper, would I have known that information? Not this guy at least. Keep the content coming.

[@LoyalMoses]

Thank you so much! Your name always puts a smile on my face when I see it.

[@nategoodwin3329]

Bro dropped a Doom challenge in a review. Subbed.

[@LoyalMoses]

Thanks! 🔥

[@osccarrcervantes2129]

how did you do the color change on the koopa? I can't get the printer to stop to change colors and continue printing, it freaks out and the print fails.

[@LoyalMoses]

Two different prints, glued together!

[@AD_Engineering]

AWESOME VIDEO!!! currently looking for a new printer for the new house 🤣🤔🤔

[@LoyalMoses]

To print the new house!?

[@AD_Engineering]

I don’t know what else I could possibly mean by that!

[@Spencer1609751]

It's not a bad price!

[@LoyalMoses]

I know!

[@krazekilla224]

Recently got into 3D printing and came across your channel. Your production is top notch! When I was looking at new printers the X4 was the one I really wanted. Looking at reviews on Facebook in the artillery group it seems like people are having nothing but problems. Seems like Z offsets are a big problem

[@LoyalMoses]

Welcome to 3D printing! Glad you are here, and thank you for the kind words! I haven't been to the Facebook group to look yet, so I haven't heard about any z issues. Are they just user error or a problem with the machine?

[@baebyte]

Machine is too tall and not reenforced properly so vibrations and movement create issues. @@LoyalMoses

[@krazekilla224]

@@LoyalMoses I'm not sure if it is user error, firmware problems, or the machines themselves. There is a post by a user saying the menu freezes, setting the language to german freezes the menu, z-offset generates an error message, etc. There are a few others commenting on the post with some similar issues. Overall the machine looks great but I think if I was going to go the bedslinger route again I would probably go with the Ender 3 V3 KE or CR-10 SE.

[@domgag1756]

Thats a very nice price!

[@LoyalMoses]

It is!

[@Techjunkie51]

I have the Sidewinder X4 Pro, bed is just a little smaller.

[@LoyalMoses]

Awesome!

[@TheSinzia]

I'm all for that auto-z, I hate messing around dialing that in...

[@LoyalMoses]

YES!

[@PrintingPros1]

just saying i love your videos and i lear a lot from them

[@LoyalMoses]

Thank you! And thank you for becoming a member, that means a lot! 💜

[@PHAEN0M]

The Sidewinders and Elegoo Neptune 4's seem to be very similar. Maybe the Artillery is just a slightly more upgraded version, with a little bump in price

[@LoyalMoses]

👍

[@Firstleaker]

2nd best review out there! Nicely done 👍

[@LoyalMoses]

Nah, it's the best! ;-)

[@Firstleaker]

@@LoyalMoses - We must keep the peace! 2nd Best 😂👍

[@802Garage]

Wait which one is the best then?

[@Firstleaker]

@@802Garage - I have been in the market for another 3D Printer for a few months. This one has caught my eye. Looking to make some parts for an upcoming school project. Also to have another 3D printer to print parts for my Volkswagen. There are only a handful of videos out there. Of course, this is just my opinion.

[@LoyalMoses]

ROFL! That was genius, making me click the "more" button just for that reply. LOVE IT!

[@geauxracerx]

Marlin has input shaping too now, but not like it matters Klipper is where it’s at

[@LoyalMoses]

Yes, however it is new and very limited - it’s why I didn’t mention it.

[@AlexSwavely]

Marlin has input shaping too.

[@LoyalMoses]

It does now, and it's not very good.

[@jimacmercebay6272]

Is the X4 Plus's bed solid mounted in the center like the X3 Plus is?

[@LoyalMoses]

Yes.

[@ausfoodgarden]

Is this unit considerably better/easier to use than the X3 plus? I'm looking at replacing a tired old Anycubic Mega S (with upgrades) with a larger bed-size printer. I've done little research here as I've also been searching for the best bang for buck mid-size resin printer.

[@LoyalMoses]

I think they are quite similar, but this is a little more feature rich,

[@JayEm16]

Yo LM, random unrelated question. I habe k1 max and use Creality Print, not Creality slicer to clarify. But when i go to drop down bar up to there is no calibration tab. Every video i see has it but mines missing. Was on same update as someone else they had it i dont. Do you have any idea if its been moved or if i need to turn on setting or something? Sorry i know shot in dark im just out options lol thanks in advance brotha been catching your streams love the content!! P.s. where is the koopa shell!? I looked in description 😂😂

[@JayEm16]

Never mind, i figured it out! I went to creality site and looked at the firmware and second to last update included it. evidently, i didnt have it. I guess maybe to latest update didnt include it. Thank you for your help!!

[@LoyalMoses]

Oh! Glad you found the answer before I could get to the comment!

[@fotomeinema-annemeinema3974]

Would like to see a compare of filaments on 300 mm/s like the polyterra pla and Polysonic high speed. If it really needs a highspeed filament or it can do with normal filament.

[@LoyalMoses]

You don’t need high speed filament at all. Polymaker PLA Pro runs great in it at speed as well.

[@mohammedmostafamamun7112]

can i slice it with cura slicer.

[@Kenny-rn2xc]

My first 3D printer was an Artillery genius. Then I bought another one, and then a Genius Pro. I still have two of them and they print pretty good. When I learned that Artillery was going to release a new SW4 I was excited and wanted to know if they were going to release a new Genuis Pro with the features of the SW4. I sent an email to Artillery and ask about a new Genius Pro . They did respond and the answer is NO. They are not going to manufacture a new Genius Pro. I don't want a helmet class printer. I don't print big stuff and I don't have room for one. Now I have to go shopping for something else. I am really disappointed. Thanks for the introduction to the new SW4.

[@LoyalMoses]

Sorry to hear that! What size of printer? Mid sized around 256mm or something smaller less than 200mm?

[@Kenny-rn2xc]

The Artillery Genius is 220x220 x 22?. I have not had anything I wanted to print that did not fit. I almost ordered a Creality A1, but then they recalled all of them and it will be months before they are back on the market. @@LoyalMoses

[@Kenny-rn2xc]

The Artillery Genius has a 220x220x22? Print volume. I have not ever wanted to print something would not fit. I was going to order a Creality A1 but just before I was going to place and order they recalled all of them. It will be months before they are back on the market.

[@Kenny-rn2xc]

Correction. The A1 is a Banbu Labs printer.

[@nektz]

Hey, Awesome Video. Is there coming a video for the x4 pro ? If not can you tell me if it’s better or worse than the x3 pro? Thanks

[@LoyalMoses]

Yes, we will have an X4 Pro video very soon!

[@foam27]

It's not the speed that matters. it's the accelerations.

[@LoyalMoses]

Or... they both matter.

[@The3DPrintingGrandad]

Sorry if I missed it, but it would be nice to know the country or origin on the products you review. Yeah, yeah, I can look it up, but I'm lazy.

[@LoyalMoses]

Haha! Most of these machines are coming from China. LulzBot and Wuxn are US, and Prusa is Czech.

[@RonZaworaCGS]

Loyal, print a BLUE shell in TPU!?

[@LoyalMoses]

OOOOOH! You are a genius! That would be awesome to have a TPU shell! I have blue TPU right here from Sainsmart!

[@QuietMikeW]

Why does it use 2 Z motors that are linked? That seems counterproductive or redundant, if they weren’t linked, it would make sense

[@LoyalMoses]

Two motors for such a large build volume and the belts keep everything synced.

[@Firstleaker]

It keeps them synchronized, because both steppers are running off of one stepper driver. Klipper can handle dual Z motors, and can align the gantry. It is simply cost reduction.

[@SkateSoup]

I really wish screw based bed leveling would go away forever. Unless a company is lacking confidence in their bed supply chain, make those couplings rigid and ABL it. To have auto z offset but not the other thing that drives people insane printing sorted out by ditching the screws is weird in 2024. Other than that pet peeve, looks like a great printer for the money.

[@jeffrudzinski]

I was interested in this printer until I saw that part of the video and immediately went "ugh" and that one thing alone made me stop watching and just move on.

[@3dprotofab]

Bed leveling is obsolete on printers that are worth buying that are current with the times and Technology

[@LoyalMoses]

I like that it exists for some people, but I agree, auto-level and auto z-offset is the future.

[@3dprotofab]

Good video well done but I really wish companies would stop putting out these machines that still have the wheels an aluminum Extrusion is not a motion system by any means nor should it be used as such and I can't believe it still has bed screws any decent printer should have a fixed bed with a decent probe meshing will take care of it

[@oldsjunkie1]

This is on linear rails.

[@3dprotofab]

​@@oldsjunkie1yes on the X and Y but not the Z

[@LoyalMoses]

Z doesn't really matter as much for v-wheels. These are hobby machines, and the results are negligible.

[@paintballercali]

36 million mm3?

[@LoyalMoses]

Yeah, I like 3s.

[@rmfberry261]

I really don't like calling this a helmet class. My head is to big.

[@LoyalMoses]

Content coming for YOUR helmet-class soon! Will the Comgrow T500 work? ;-)

[@bugbear323]

Bye

[@LoyalMoses]

Later!

[@waskito3443]

I would've been excited if it was a core xy but instead they are beating a dead horse when it comes to decade old tech.

[@LoyalMoses]

Do you think bed slingers are dead? They aren’t. They are a very successful motion system, and we can absolutely have both,

[@JamesWardGodsMagicGuy]

LOL, you said phone cord, are you aware there is a massive amount of generation that has zero knowledge of what a phone cord even is?

[@LoyalMoses]

haha!