504 RSW Gibson A Mandolin With Bulging Sides

Where have we seen this before? I stand by my statement. Old Gibsons were under stress when built. The sides on all Old Gibson Mandolins and Guitars are always pushing out!
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[@adamkempa5157]

A much happier puppy at the end.

[@Mtlmshr]

I’ll give you credit for your patience and the fact that you talk your way through your entire thought process as your doing this….it’s actually very impressive!

[@hijmestoffels5171]

Please keep digging up videos from the vault! I like them. Your hindsight comments make them even more a joy to watch.

[@63vetteman]

Another successful surgery with the clear transplant & fretectomy!! Nice job Doc!!

[@robertshorthill4153]

No mandolin repair such as this is ever easy, plus a re-fret, leveling, new nut job, clean up of those surface spots. Holy cow ! I bet that old gal will look and sound great. Worth the effort, I'm sure

[@matthewbartolone7036]

Your patience and the way you talk your way through your process are great learning tools. i especially love ho you voice changes when you talk about you critics. If they can do better, film and post it, talk is cheap. Extra fine work Mr. Rosa

[@geneedwards5639]

What a challenge! I really enjoy watching how you use the tools you make to overcome the challenges presented by each task, and all the while keeping your work in place for us to see. That has to add difficulties to the job. I’ve seen many others’ repair videos; no one keeps us as involved as you do. You’re an expert craftsman, and we certainly appreciate watching! Thanks from Gilbert, AZ.

[@paullanier8280]

Each and every video you produce along with other members of your group adding their professional support keeps me tuned in for All of RSW media programs.

[@markdavich5829]

I've learned more about the hows and the whys here than on any other channel - especially the neck repairs.

[@Mtlmshr]

I’m glad I’m not the only business owner that has a sliding scale on there work! I do wonder if you have a “nuisance tax” for some customers…..you know the ones I’m talking about! Because I definitely have one and it ain’t cheep! The funny thing is that they usually have no clue that they have been taxed and are happy to pay it and think they got a screaming deal🤔😳😉

[@stevebrooks4th]

A terrific expression: "That's not near far enough..."

[@johnsee7269]

I looked it up and you're right about wetting the fretboard... Wood is most stable in terms of its length. When wood swells it does so laterally so wetting the fretboard would not cause a significant tightening against inserted frets. Some Luthers say that ebony holds on to frets moreso... than rosewood. 🤓

[@RosaStringWorks]

They can both chip out severely ask me how I know

[@rwsams]

I'm half an English major and acrossed is just as good a word as any. Enjoy your videos very much.

[@kapstersmusic]

Wow listening to that after listening to the Rosa Massachusetts mandolin you auctioned off a week or so ago really illustrates how nice the Rosa sounded. The Rosa just sounded more even across all the frequencies, the Gibson here seemed to be more mid-focused. Whoever got that Rosa mandolin really scored something special!

[@joemcgraw5529]

wow what a hard repair but you got it done ,I was gritting my teeth a little when you were driving in the lower frets ,thanks for sharing jerry excellent Sunday matinee!!!!

[@glennpittman7325]

wow that passes my sound check for sure.

[@jeffgrier8488]

Nice work Jerry, it looks like that one was tough! It sounds great!

[@RandySchartiger]

the situations we get into are hard to even document sometimes lol great stuff man!

[@skatedd2451]

I'm a guitar player also an artist I really love what you do it's so interesting the history behind the instruments and I love my guitars I have four of them only one acoustic the rest of your electric the acoustic guitar is a an Aston comes from Victoria 19 76.. an Italian guitar nice wood well made guitar solid has has mainly electric guitar player... but love watching you play those old school songs

[@bobl2995]

Great repair from yesteryear thanks Jerry 👍

[@Sci-Que]

Excellent instructable. A larger cleat over a high-stress area to keep it from cracking beside the cleat makes very good sense.

[@dscdrkel5546]

Eria**This would have been a good time for Jerry to Demo. the tuner winch system to new viewers ***DR KEL

[@Sci-Que]

@@dscdrkel5546 Do you mean as far as winching the cleat into place with tension? I remember the first time I saw the tuner winch demonstrated. It is truly ingenious. I don't do mandolins or instruments with F holes except rarely. I did do a Gibson L 50 for a friend who actually stepped on it and crushed it. Braces top everything smashed. I took the back so I could come close to fixing it right. That thing lost its mind and sprang out in every direction imaginable. I am still ashamed of some of the things I called that guitar, before I finally wiggled it back together. Since it was under such tension, I actually wondered would a splint in that crack on Jerry's mandolin have been a better option than forcing the crack together.

[@dscdrkel5546]

@@Sci-Que I had 6 tuner winches in my shop**used them alot. some cracks require more then one. **have nice day**hope some of my comments help people.**DR KEL

[@Sci-Que]

@@dscdrkel5546 They help me for sure. I may catch ion slower than some but I am tenacious. I do intend to learn luthiery and can only do so by listening to gracious people like you who have been there and done that and who are selfless enough to pass on their knowledge. Kind thanks for your help.

[@w.p8960]

Bought my first shirt from you. Never got to wear it. Grandson saw it and stole it. Oh well, I guess I’ll do another order.

[@philgallagher1]

44:00 re: your use of the word "acrossed" - even as an English man I have no issue with this! I like the way some Americans butcher our beautiful language (lol!). It's like when you all drop the second "I" in the word "Aluminium", or add an "h" onto "height" making "heighth" (like length). I always say we are two countries separated by a common language! Seriously, I often joke with you guys over the pond, but it is all in jest! People shouldn't get bent out of shape over things like this - the world has FAR greater problems than this! As far as the work goes, as always I am knocked over by the things you can do at the speed you do them! Keep it up, Sir!

[@perihelion7798]

'Acrossed' or "acrosst"...I was an English major, but I never complain about the way Jerry talks. His verbal delivery is part of his style and charm, so, yes, I just go with it. However... I cut no slack with folks who try to be smarter than they are, like using 'multiple different'. 'Multiple different' means 'various'. The word 'LIKE' is not an adverb or adjective -- ever. QED

[@AdrianAtStufish]

It's just hilarious for us here in the UK to hear/read a citizen from our foreign cousins across the pond describing themselves as an 'English Major' - in the English language that only ever means an officer in the British Army!

[@perihelion7798]

@@AdrianAtStufish We also studied English literature -- from England! So what do you guys in the Mother Country call a student who is majoring in the native language?

[@AdrianAtStufish]

@@perihelion7798 we don't, because 'majoring' is not generally recognised as a verb in the English language.

[@perihelion7798]

@@AdrianAtStufish It is in American English: English Language & Usage Stack Exchange is a question and answer site for linguists, etymologists, and serious English language enthusiasts. Majoring in Information Technology, xxx University Major in Information Technology, xxx University The first is a description. For example, if you are a current student you would say: I am majoring in IT. From Merriam-Webster: major verb majored; majoring; majors

[@AdrianAtStufish]

@@perihelion7798 I was referring to the English language, the one, it was clear you were questioning, we use in England, not (sorry for the expression) your' bastardised version. In England we tend to use the current version of what you may possibly wish to term 'English English' ( if you wish to avoid, in your own minds, referring to your own language as simply 'American' .) 😉

[@cecilhancock9941]

sounds great

[@jthonn]

One of those great jobs done by the Mandolin Master. Shame you couldn't just pull it apart, but yeah I know, you are at the mercy of the customer and budget. Turned out nice though.

[@dscdrkel5546]

Jithonn **If he did remove the back for repairs***with all the stress on Gibsons ** The body would never fit the the sides right unless he used a tight fitting form to hold the side shape like Arduy Ratiff **DR KEL

[@jthonn]

@@dscdrkel5546 I hear ya, it would be a challenge getting it back together. Plus Jerry is snake bit like me, try to do something right and it blows up in your face.

[@billsterling6485]

Well here it is Monday Morning 1:00 am lol July 19th / 21...And you can sure get into some pretty tight places lol.. Looked good and sounded fine also..... God Bless Ya Jerry always enjoy the videos

[@jeffberg8015]

Ain't hindsight great? You can't always find the best or easiest solution in the heat of the moment, but the important part is to find a solution that is workable and will be good enough to do the job. That's where persistence comes in, and you seem to have a bucketful of that. Good job. For what it's worth, your opinion about past Gibson construction methods sounds plausible to me.

[@zapa1pnt]

Look through all Jerry's past videos and you will see there have been a Lot of Gibsons, with a wide range of problems and many recurring. Today, we have artificial intelligence which can learn, on it's own. Gibson?.......not so much.

[@jthonn]

@@zapa1pnt Man I agree, especially with the guitars. If they didn't have the great sound and tone, they wouldn't be worth the wood they are made of. I watch a lot of guitar channels, and there are more Gibsons being repaired than all the others put together. I guess it is a good thing for the luthiers.

[@michaelalpin6139]

Sounds lovely!

[@gordonbartlett8875]

?? Would a spline in the crack been a possible solution? It would fill the gap and reduce the stress on the top as well.

[@TheVectorious]

I was wondering the same thing. Rather than putting the stress back into it.

[@dscdrkel5546]

@@TheVectorious Yes he could**But refurnishing is a PINA to get right..I repaired my 1736 violin that way. I can still see the filler strip.** DR KEL

[@crubenbauer1]

Jerry, Just a thought.... Since your Italian, have you ever thought about giving a nod to your heritage by playing an Italian folk song? When demonstrating a finish instrument? Such as Torna A Surriento?(Come back to Sorrento)? Or Funiculi, Funicula? My Grandfather had an Album named, "Neapolitan Mandolins". Which he played every Sunday and Holiday when Family would come to visit. Funny though, as he was an Accordion Player. BTW, my family is Neapolitan, (Pratola Peligna), Abruzzo region. Thanks

[@bacicinvatteneaca]

Those you listed are known as "popolaresco", so a repertoire "d'auteur" that's intended to be in line with the style of actual folk culture while introducing a few things from classical and (by now ancient) pop composition.

[@johnjriggsarchery2457]

Not that it has anything to do with anything, it's just a weird thought, but I wonder about finding a Loar era F4 with a really damaged top being repaired by replacing it with an an F5 style top with F holes. Not an original top but a top made by and joined by a master luthier.

[@wayneshirey6999]

Nice job

[@tyschmidt7404]

Once again I watched every second. That cleet was difficult. I wish I could have seen you take the back off though

[@dscdrkel5546]

It bothers me when**The only reason some of you commenters are on Jerry's site is to nik pick the way some people type ***or the way Jerry does things **but he gets the job done.***For your imfo** I am 94 years young **** Jerry and I have the same hand problems .Sometime I have to type in caps.**but the main thing is if you understand the msg then its good communication** It may not be to nut head English freaks..**I did this type of work for 52 years AND I STILL LEARN SOMETHING FROM EACH SESSION.***DR KEL

[@robertlastman7354]

Jerry, A small balloon could have been used to hold the spline in place.

[@RosaStringWorks]

I don't think so too much stuff in the area and too tight And you wouldn't be able to see the alignment

[@snookdock]

Hello Jerry

[@P_Ezi]

I am surprised by the size difference between A and F Gibson's. I always assumed they were the same other than the extra bits required for the scrolls etc.

[@iapologizeinadvance4812]

Maybe some moonshine got splattered on that top:)

[@keninnis1]

Quite the clamping job...

[@jimhuitt9854]

As far as stress goes, I was told many years ago by an old luthier that without stress you don't have good sound.

[@jthonn]

Well there may be some truth to that, but too much can make an instrument fly apart or do what that one was doing.

[@RosaStringWorks]

Many folks have theories. But very few of them have in basis in fact or can be proven.

[@bvalt1]

Off bug repellent wrecks guitar finishes like that, got a fingerprint in one of my acoustics from it. If it got accidentally sprayed on that, it could have been the culprit.

[@kthwkr]

Commonly I will come inside from mowing the lawn. Covered in deet. Sweating. Pick up my Martin and dissolve the finish. At first I was appalled but then I remembered I bought my guitars to play and not as fancy show pieces. So window pane, small scratches, bumps, and dulled finishes don't bother me. It's like my new pickup truck when I first carried something in it that scratched the inside of the bed I decided, it's a truck, that's what it's for. I eschew bed liners.

[@bvalt1]

@@kthwkr I'm the same way, when you gig regularly stuff gets beat up, my current gigging gtr is three years old and has numerous dings and dents, I'm basically a well mannered gorilla/

[@INDYOSKARS]

*"Liberty"* @1:01:03

[@mtabernig]

please use Tidebond II !!!!

[@kenkohlhoff3871]

Another one saved

[@jefferp]

Only “Rosa” is allowed to use the pinky on lead notes per Sam Bush. That is a funny story.

[@stevedimebag]

It was Interesting to hear your comment about CA glue and cracks. I notice Caleb uses CA glue quite a lot on cracks - is this something you have changed your mind on and taught him? Or is this something he does based on his own experience?

[@WoodyFletcher]

Put a balloon in there and blow it up to hold the cleat while it dries? Just a thought.

[@RosaStringWorks]

I don't think so too much stuff in the area and too tight And you wouldn't be able to see the alignment

[@doorran]

mandolins should look beautiful... :0)

[@soapboxgeezer4283]

The correct spelling for acrossed is acrawst. That comes from the southern English dichunairy.

[@forthwithtx5852]

I thought it was acrosst. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@saoirsepaddy]

Gibson's Company love doing sigogglin instruments

[@zapa1pnt]

"sigogglin" Had to look that one up. You are absolutely right. Throughout their entire history.

[@kardRatzinger]

A Gibson F model with A-holes... or is it the other way around?

[@TwoWheeledTon]

What is the buffing compound used?

[@mitchmatthews6713]

My sides are bulging as well, but it's worst in front.

[@hijmestoffels5171]

I’m familiar with that 🤣😂

[@jthonn]

Yep and it is causing problems with my g-string.

[@dscdrkel5546]

@@hijmestoffels5171 ****My rolling rock seems to cause that on me.**DR KEL

[@edwardpetersen4309]

Couldn't you have used the guitar tuner crank. Drill a tiny hole through the too and cleat, use knotted fishing line and crank it tight against the top?

[@RosaStringWorks]

That's what I mentioned on the screen as my winch.

[@edwardpetersen4309]

@@RosaStringWorks ah, I was listening more than watching as I was changing out some tuners.

[@nellayema2455]

That mandolin looks a lot like the 1932 Gibson A model that my dad got in 1940 when he was 12. His was in near pristine condition until my 10 year-old self picked at at a small chip in the finish on the top with a pick and made it worse! Kids are curious and sometimes do stupid stuff, so he wasn't too hard on me. He sold it in the '80's. I wish I had bought it off of him.

[@NickRatnieks]

The Kluson tuners on this one date it to 1937 or a little later. Gibson started using Kluson tuners in 1937.

[@dscdrkel5546]

Jerry** I Recommend you Use Simichrome polish on metal parts and wax with RENAISSANCE wax Use Scratch out on painted surfaces** Simichrome Polish is a soft paste polish for chrome, silver, gold, aluminum, brass, or virtually any other metal. Cleans to a brilliant shine while leaving a protective film to retard oxidation. Apply a small amount of Simichrome Polish using a clean polishing cloth. Buff with a soft cloth to a brilliant luster. Great for tarnish removal too..***Chuck

[@amascia8327]

Now, the question is: how's the 2018 repair holding up in 2021?

[@RosaStringWorks]

Just talked with the customer. He loves it.

[@amascia8327]

@@RosaStringWorks 🤹🥁🎶👍🏼🌠🎂🍭🥂🤠

[@mikecurtin9831]

Thumbs up to crush a troll.

[@PepperGipper]

You look like Lou Nanne

[@patrickleary2389]

FYI (but not your fault) KZbin is loading up your videos with more and more ads! I suspect it's a back-handed complement to your success and they want to pound your viewers with ads.

[@jthonn]

Watch a couple of them, it helps the channel.

[@stforgione]

last time!! did you get the knife i sent you??????

[@RosaStringWorks]

If you are asking me? I guess I'd have to say no.

[@stforgione]

@@RosaStringWorks dear jerry: i sent you a knife and blades for it over a month ago. looks like you never got it thats sad, its a great tool,that you would really appreciate.the post office fell down on the job!!!

[@INDYOSKARS]

Both Hank Williams and Webb Pierce pronounced it as "acrosst" so it´s a perfectly legitimate hillbilly way of pronouncing the word. @43:35 "Golly" you don´t hear that oftentimes these days. The hillbilly Festus Hagen always used to say "Golly Bill !" @1:00:18

[@dscdrkel5546]

SCRATCH OUT would be a better choice to clean the top.*and A lot cheaper **Chuck

[@Sci-Que]

Scratch out is nonabrasive. I'm not sure how fast it would work. Semi Chrome works really quick, at least for me.

[@dscdrkel5546]

@@Sci-Que ​ @Eris Murphy I have used scratch out for many yrs it is a very smooth 30000 grit and a highly abrasive polish**more then simichrome**i only use simichrome on metal surfaces****DR KEL**Eris** I failed to tell you 'after polishing the metal parts* I also polish them with RENAISSANCE WAX

[@dscdrkel5546]

IT;S PURPOSE IS TO REMOVE SCRATCHES FROM AUTO BODYS.** SO IT HAS TO BE ABRASIVE. *DONT YOU THINK. ???***DR KEL

[@Sci-Que]

@@dscdrkel5546 The Scratch out company advertises it as being nonabrasive and it only gets a 3.5 star rating. When I wrote "I am not sure how fast it would work" I was actually hoping you could tell me how fast it works. I have used Semichrome polish and it works very fast.

[@dscdrkel5546]

@@Sci-Que The company is only telling its users that it will not leave scratches on your car...PS I am 94 with 52 yeas of instrument designing and repair I have used about every product on the market**DR KEL

[@mandolinman2006]

Interesting observations. I've been told a lot of older Les Pauls had neck issues due to green wood being used. Also, little known factoid. When Harmony went under, Gibson bought a lot of equipment, including side bending equipment. This link shows some of their equipment that was used. collections.nmmusd.org/Tours/LillibridgeGallery/HarmonyCo.html

[@jthonn]

Makes sense, that may be why so many necks had a problem twisting. Their necks are just doomed, design and all. They look nice, but if you drop it, a broken headstock is almost guarantied. I'm thinking of building a LP style guitar, I may put a fender style neck on it for that reason.

[@mandolinman2006]

@@jthonn that's what I was told when I was apprenticed to a guy about 12 years ago. I helped on 3 different Gibson guitars and came across everything from plywood back and sides to each one having a different neck joint.