Oh boy, this is so sad. Why cant people make good content, like we know it from years back.
@erickchristensen746Ай бұрын
Are you complaining about the video? because the content was good. if it's not up your alley then gtfo nobody making you stay here.
@entity0984Ай бұрын
Seemed great to me.
@johndaniels1197Ай бұрын
Did you accidentally post this on the wrong video? This was great content.
@maksphoto78Ай бұрын
@@erickchristensen746 Maybe he meant that this is good content and that people these days don't make such good content anymore.
@jaredmurphy4388Ай бұрын
fuuuyaaaa nice bait mate
@jordanhorst63 ай бұрын
some aluminum bronze variations have a percentage of iron added and can be hardened up to 66RW. They're most commonly used in marine or industrial applications where strength comparable to steels is needed but also corrosion resistance. They make for great boat propellers
@monkeking86043 ай бұрын
What is RW rating, I knew HRC rating but not RW
@dbmail5453 ай бұрын
@@monkeking8604 Rockwell
@monkeking86043 ай бұрын
@@dbmail545 rockwell hardness is in HRC not RW
@Patrik69203 ай бұрын
@@monkeking8604 depends on country, usually HR or RW is used everywhere, HRC denotes one of the tests used in hardness deformation test HR-C (Hardness-Rockwell-Crystal tip deformation) Usually diomond. HRB wich is more common, is Hardeness-Rockwell-Ball indention as HV (Hardness-Vickerscale) HB (Hardness-Brinellscale) HR (Hardness-Rockwellscale) ..for the most how much a diomond deform is of littel use in most cases, its more a value of scratch resistance wich is for the most cases useless information...
@faq_is_love3 ай бұрын
Why not use stainless steel?
@iainburgess85773 ай бұрын
4:15 vaporisation. TIG has an extremely hot point source, that lowers Rapidly as it radiates away from that source into vastly larger volumes. But your spark is around 5000k/4700⁰C. Aluminium vaporises around half that, same with copper, but the multiple minor ratios of the entire process will have vaporised one more than the other, and changed the exact composition relative to the whole head. Likely also localised heat colouration; that spot was melted and cooled under different, less controlled circumstances. It's why material type, filler type, welding settings be extremely important.
@AS401433 ай бұрын
or it may be due to the liquation
@DitchWizardry3 ай бұрын
Was gonna say something to this effect. Even under shielding gas, *some* aluminum at the very surface of the metal will sublimate/vaporize (depending on if it's solid and glowing or a molten puddle when we're looking at it) if the bulk temperature of the bronze is high enough to give aluminum a meaningful vapor pressure compared to 1 ATM. TIG blows way past that point and I'm not surprised there's a visible composition gradient in that thin layer. Love this stuff!
@Sustainerz3 ай бұрын
Great comment, that's what I was thinking ❤
@alexiachimciuc31992 ай бұрын
Why didn't he used an oxy acetylene torch for welding? Or oxy propane?
@DitchWizardry2 ай бұрын
@@alexiachimciuc3199 None of those can heat a small area up enough fast enough to gloop on some extra base material like that, than TIG. You can braze with bronze, but it would be HARD to braze to the surface of an axe head like that with anything other than TIG. You'd end up roasting the whole piece before the area you're adding filler to was hot enough. It would be uglier, even if it worked.
@zaynehayashi25283 ай бұрын
It may not look impressive to anyone else, but u drawing those lines was perfection
@Freeman-Dl703 ай бұрын
If you hold the pencil or marker and use your finger to guide along the edge, you would get the same results.
@analyticgeometry90143 ай бұрын
I read the "It may not look impressive" part of your comment, and my brain immediately filled in "but this is what peak performance looks like" haha
@okultusrexus36602 ай бұрын
I'm an illustrator and noticed that right way, really top notch accuracy in that line and on both sides to match. Chef's kiss!
@okultusrexus36602 ай бұрын
@@Freeman-Dl70 Of course or you could use a stencil or a computer operated laser. But he didn't, it's freehand that's the point.
@Freeman-Dl702 ай бұрын
@okultusrexus3660 Thanks, Captain Obvious. Your attempt to make me look stupid has the opposite effect. Where in my comment made you think I said anything about stencils? Wasn't my comment simply telling someone they could do like carpenters do and guide their finger? Climb off your high horse, it's only a .25 cent mechanical pony.
@Pablo6683 ай бұрын
I guess there are good reasons why a whole age was dedicated to using bronze as a go to material. Great work btw, and the axes look really cool too.
@andrewwilks27003 ай бұрын
Blame Crom for not leaving steel on the battlefield until the Hyborian Age
@ZomBearfoot3 ай бұрын
Tin is relatively rare so bronze was more expensive to make than iron which is much more common as an ore. Bronze is stronger and harder than pure iron but economics forced it out.
@Pablo6683 ай бұрын
@@ZomBearfoot Iron was relatively harder to work into a useful tool. I think that is the main thing that held it back. The Chinese did better with Iron cause they invented a double acting air pump (bellows). It pumped air on both the on and out stroke.
@ZomBearfoot3 ай бұрын
@@Pablo668 I know about the bellows, I made one, and I agree about iron being harder to shape than bronze, because you can cast what you need of bronze with minimal shaping and just some cleanup. They would, however, have been familiar with hammering metal to different shapes using heat in the middle to late bronze age at least, possibly early bronze age due to extensive copper working. Bronze shorts when worked hot but copper can be worked a little easier, plus silver and gold by the middle bronze age for jewelry. The longer, more intensive process of smelting iron had a lot to do with it, basically they had to reinvent the wheel to get it right. But even though it was softer than bronze, there was less likely to be an iron shortage because it was everywhere. The Asian box bellows, some dispute over whether China gets too much credit, some say it was a southeast Asian design, I have no opinion until I do more research, was very efficient. They also developed a highly efficient smelting technique that was used to produce very good quality iron and steel that, according to Nova, passed to Europe through trade routes.
@Pablo6683 ай бұрын
@@ZomBearfoot Yeah I agree with all of that. I think (guessing from memory) that there was some overlap between late bronze age and early iron age. I think natively at least iron working in Europe was basically smelting iron into a bloom and then working it from there. It has been a while ssince I studied this stuff.
@NFTI3 ай бұрын
That hammered texture on the blades looks sweet.
@lukesheridan46233 ай бұрын
lol random nate spotting
@theoldantleredmyth3 ай бұрын
It's my favorite texture lol, I've probably spent hundreds of hours with a ball peen hammer texturing just about everything I make. Looks great on everything from knives to jewelry.
@DH-.3 ай бұрын
It probably tastes metallic tho
@theimperfectgod71403 ай бұрын
@@DH-. Huh... 🗿
@noneyabidness96443 ай бұрын
Are you going to cast your lot at your own bronze axe?
@chrispartridge2125Ай бұрын
Just a quick tip, I've worked in the Aluminum Diecasting field for about 7 years now. Those holes are porosity, not from shrinkage though, they are from trapped gases. You've made what's called "Overflow" which you refer to as risers. Overflow work better with high pressure die casting because the injection system squeezes all the gases into these overflows at the edge of the casting. With you gravity feeding the metal into the mold, I'd leave little vent holes on the end of your "risers" for the gases to flow out the other end of the casting. You'll have a much more solid casting. Awesome work though! I want to get into casting at home, I just haven't because of other stuff haha. You're doing some cool stuff here man
@referencefool652524 күн бұрын
🎼🥁 Some vibration might shake out bubbles.
@moffichu915022 күн бұрын
every blacksmith should own a vibrator. it helps the liquid get into the holes and shakes out air, great tool
@crosshairs00716 күн бұрын
What do you mean by "I'd leave little vent holes on the end of your "risers""? Where exactly is he going to leave holes? The riser holes are full of molten metal no?
@doomsedge316 күн бұрын
@@crosshairs007 Molds are designed to have metal flow into one side and air/other gases to flow out holes on the other side(Different processes do this part differently) In this process he might take a pipe and dig a hole from the surface of the sand mold to the inside where he'd be casting a part, allowing air to escape from the other end while he pours metal. This will allow the molten metal to fill all the voids and small details. Edit: I'm the author of the comment just happened to be on my other acct 😅
@crosshairs00716 күн бұрын
@@doomsedge3 Didn't he already have those? Or are you indicating that he just put the filling and vent holes in the wrong place for proper air expulsion?
@taylorstumpp40053 ай бұрын
aluminum alloyed metals can change color with annealing. the spot is because your weld cooled at a quicker rate than the casting. If you anneal after repairing at 600-900 it should go away.
@PajamaPantsStudiosАй бұрын
That’s interesting! Thanks for letting us know
@HicklingStand3 ай бұрын
Just a note - for axe hafts (handles) the grain should be aligned with the direction of the axe blade for maximum strength and to minimise damage. Hickory is the best wood for handles but when I saw the grain at around 6:20ish it’s basically the opposite of what I look for in an axe handle. It might not make much of a difference in the short term and on axes of this length, but for longevity and to avoid issues on any longer axes in the future I’d always try and get that grain in line with the axe blade.
@ganjalfcreamcorn84383 ай бұрын
that does make sense. i suppose the wood is less likely to delaminate or fracture that way. thanks for the info.
@ieuanhunt5523 ай бұрын
I knew something looked off about them. Good eye.
@Uncephalized3 ай бұрын
It's much more important that the grain doesn't run out than which orientation the rings are in. Those handles will be fine. I'd be more worried about the loose fit at the bottom of the eye. You should have to tap an axe handle home firmly with a baton or mallet, it shouldn't just drop onto a shoulder like that.
@TheDuckofDoom.2 ай бұрын
also important is not to get half heartwood and half sapwood, to avoid warping problems.
@SchrodingerMil2 ай бұрын
Hickory? Baaah. There’s an Irishman who’s quite adamant about Ash.
@seanyackley37003 ай бұрын
I'm kicking myself for not remembering the book, but there was a knifemaker who did probably hundreds of test trying to figure out what the best method for quenching blades was to maximize edge retention his testing method was to cut short segments off of a rope with the knives, counting how many cuts he made, once he could feel the knives struggling, he called that his stopping point, it would be cool to see you try this with the bronzes, more controlled than chopping wood at the very least for those interested, his best method was to quench a blade 3 separate times, waiting 24 hours after each quench (waiting apparently made a huge difference, it started when he got interrupted before the 2nd quench, and he struggled for some time to figure out why that knife preformed so much better, until he remembered the interruption )
@bustavonnutz2 ай бұрын
Underrated comment, should be pinned, what liquid did he use?
@Multicam442 ай бұрын
Sounds like an older Pete of Cedric and Ada yt fame.
@szilardfineascovasa61442 ай бұрын
The grandpa of CATRA tests 🙂.
@LH_Vagrant2 ай бұрын
I have no idea who it was, but I could see Larrin Thomas take on a project like that.
@andrewengstrom15162 ай бұрын
3 quenched with a day between was best huh? I've never heard of that - or anything like it. VERY interesting.
@J0hnnyShad0wАй бұрын
As far as the Tin Bronze staying sharp, I have made a straight razor out of Tin Bronze and, after 3 years of use, all the owner does is an occasional edge touch up. He uses it daily LOVE this video
@keithad6485Ай бұрын
Impressive!
@Knapweed2 ай бұрын
Bronze is a wonderful metal for marine use, it's tough, resilient and very corrosion resistant providing you take care of electrolysis. It makes a beautiful looking axe. Good job.
@rosmundsen2 ай бұрын
In the book The Odyssey, bronze was the material used for weapons. The phrase "the cruel bronze" is often used. That has stuck with me after reading it many years ago.
@hoi-polloi18632 ай бұрын
I hear ya! I was wondering the whole time when we'd see the test of trying to hack through a Trojan's armor...
@NogrimStonesonАй бұрын
bronze wont bind up as much in a metal vs metal strike. meaning it wouldnt catch in an enemies shield (the iron band on the edge), a blade, or armour the same way other metals would. i imagine it would make it much better at puncturing chain mail or sliding in between armour joints.
@totalassuageАй бұрын
I remember the description of arrows and speartips going through the diferent tlayers of the shields...
@a.karley4672Ай бұрын
@@NogrimStoneson What in the "Bronze Age" would you have been making "chain" mail from? When trying to make archaeological comparisons, it would be important to compare like with like - which would mean making some arsenic-bronze, rather than tin-bronze. Yes, the Wikipedia level of chemistry describes bronze as a tin-copper alloy, but since tin is a quite uncommon metal, a *lot* of archaeological bronze is arsenical. The reason is simple - they (Mediterranean metal workers) had to import tin from either Kazakhstan or Cornwall to make tin-bronze (once the small S.Turkey tin deposits became too expensive), while copper minerals often form together with arsenic minerals (indeed, copper-arsenic sulphide and relatives are still significant copper ores to this day) so smelting of poorly-sorted ore would naturally produce an arsenic bronze. You need to be *more* careful working with this stuff. But it's often the correct material to compare with for experimental archaeology. But you're already quite careful.
@fotticelli5 күн бұрын
I understand that bronze swords were used as stabbing weapons but if I had a sword and saw a stab coming I would try to deflect it with my sword. I wonder how many bronze on bronze sword duels a sword would survive before having to be melted and reforged.
@sinakaedwards20093 ай бұрын
The pour was so on point the lines from the 3D molds was even cast. Impressive.
@jadenephrite3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your video. For those who are unfamiliar with sand casting, the top half of the mold flask frame is called the "Cope", the bottom half of the mold flask frame is called the "Drag", and the sand packing tool is called the "Rammer".
@justayoutuber19062 ай бұрын
Rammer Time.
@navienslavement2 ай бұрын
Cope
@TheLegendaryHackerАй бұрын
@@navienslavementCope and Drag, Rammer
@EvilDaveCanada3 ай бұрын
Did you know that the most common version of aluminum bronze is called Nordic Gold? Nordic Gold is what the .10€, .20€ & the .50€ coins are made of. They choose that metal because it does not contain any metals that people would have a contact reaction with.
@JoMcD212 ай бұрын
Those cold forge marks are why I clicked. You definitely are right - they're cool!
@colbunkmust3 ай бұрын
An appleseed edge is another term for a convex edge, where there's no discernible edge bevel as the edge is blended cleanly to its apex.
@SebaztienHawke-ci5hm2 ай бұрын
… So he didn’t give it an “appleseed” edge?
@Shadrach666Ай бұрын
@@SebaztienHawke-ci5hm Correct
@jeffrowlette2 ай бұрын
As an Aerospace machinist, I really loved watching this 👍
@robertbrunАй бұрын
As a hotel receptionist, I also loved watching this.
@rhonin2552 ай бұрын
I think having a proper steel axe as a baseline comparision would have really helped putting these results into perspective.
@a.karley4672Ай бұрын
Except for the original users, 5000-odd years ago, the comparison would have been with a "proper flint axe" because there was no such thing as "steel" to cast and forge.
@rhonin255Ай бұрын
@@a.karley4672 And I get that. On the question: "Why didn't people in the past just use steel?" It's because they had to figure out the technology to manufacture it in the first place, so mostly furnace and forge construction. And even then comparing modern high-grade steel to anything historical isn't quite fair, since even medieval steel was far different in quality. So I guess in conclusion, modern steel is quite the miracle and it's performance is really a marvel, we shouldn't take it for granted, and in the past people were wonderfully creative to make due with the things they had available.
@a.karley4672Ай бұрын
@@rhonin255 ISTR a comment a while back that "traditional" wrought iron work (principally decorative, that-century) effectively died in the mid-1970s because modern steels were too tough to work, compared to crucible steel, alloy steels etc. 98% the same composition ; vastly different properties.
@haydenc27423 ай бұрын
You should mold in the "welding bars" into the top surface, so when you pour it, it won't just run off...but pool into a nice formed rod Either way...such an incredible design and build! Keep em coming!!!!
@neutronalchemist32413 ай бұрын
In early bronze age you would have more likely found arsenical bronze. It's mechanical charateristics are comparable to tin bronze, but it's not industrially made, and a DIY would be pretty dangerous, for obvious reasons.
@JonathanFisherS2 ай бұрын
As a casual observer, those casting molds and the results were incredibly impressive.
@GodtrulylovesyouallАй бұрын
Jesus truly does love you, He stands at the door and knocks, blessed is the man who lets Him in. Jesús te ama de verdad, se para a la puerta y llama, bendito sea el hombre que lo deja entrar.
@stratagamaАй бұрын
@@Godtrulylovesyouall well he must not love you if you feel the need to do all of this.
@johngibson73073 ай бұрын
If this guy started making these for sale i would definitely start buying them for my collection
@TheWolfiet2 ай бұрын
I'd HAVE to have one of these.
@littlebacchus2163 ай бұрын
Just like to say a thank you as I've been a viewer for some time and I really appreciate the time you spend explaining things that may be obvious to other metal workers and done without patronizing us viewers who may not be as knolagable.
@JumpMan25423 ай бұрын
I actually really like how these look! The more orangey color looks really good with the tan of the wood! And that hammered edge is just an awesome finishing touch
@goshohgosh45683 ай бұрын
I read a graph somewhere that tin bronze, after work hardening exeeds the hardness of mild steel so honestly it would make for an excellent hatchet edge. If you have any interest in history tou might find a ton of inspiration in how strong bronze appears in historical writing... they made cannons out of the stuff for example.
@jacara19813 ай бұрын
Yup high grade Tin/Bronze has higher hardness than low grade steel, however it has a lower melting point (and a much lower point that it loses strength and fails)
@goshohgosh45683 ай бұрын
👍
@nonec384Ай бұрын
tool steel still cheaper
@keithad6485Ай бұрын
I set up and operated a non ferrous foundry in the 1990s. Though I did not work with aluminum bronze, I seem to remember reading the strength of this alloy is approaching the strength of mild steel. I most worked with brass, german silver and silicon bronze. BTW, it was a lovely job in winter, LP gas fired furnace kept us so warm!
@TuttleScott3 ай бұрын
that hammered edge is pretty cool looking too
@georgewhitehead81852 ай бұрын
I had to smile at your comment that "I am sort of a perfectionist" That is certainly obvious by just watching you work, and also looking at your foundry. I salute you!! Dr. George Whitehead
@FranklyWry2 ай бұрын
Kudos on the proper use of risers to minimize shrink defects.
@Shadrach666Ай бұрын
He's a foundryman - why wouldn't he use normal casting techniques?
@FranklyWryАй бұрын
@@Shadrach666 Because I have seen a lot of casting videos that featured failed castings because they refused to do the basics despite being foundrymen, smartass.
@MikeNoyb2 ай бұрын
You never know what you'll find amazing and informative when you surf YT. THANKS!
@dkeith452 ай бұрын
FWIW, I own a Phosphor Bronze hatchet cast by a local gunsmith twenty years or so ago. It's amazingly tough.
@Uthael_Kileanea19 сағат бұрын
Learned some new things from this video and the comments. Thank you. And thanks, KZbin for the recommendation.
@ZoonCrypticon3 ай бұрын
I like your organized and clean style of manufacturing !
@GT-yw8ue2 ай бұрын
Blown away with how awesome your skills are. I was expecting you to make fairly basic axes for testing or whatever. Wish I had your skill.
@michelhv3 ай бұрын
You should do a razor next. Romans were clean shaven with large round bronze razors with work hardened edges. Since then we switched to carbon steel and sharpening, but I’ve always wondered how bronze would perform!
@zimzob2 ай бұрын
Bronze is also anti-microbial, which explains how Roman surgeons were able to perform complicated surgeries without antibiotics - their scalpels and other instruments were all made of bronze !
@MaaZeus2 ай бұрын
Probably comparable as far as use goes. Even though steel is harder, that comes into play only in edge retention properties, meaning steel holds its edge longer before resharpening is required. That said a bronze shaving knife would be badass and I would totally buy one if available. Bronze is so beautiful.
@Dee_Just_DeeАй бұрын
True! Something that people don't think so much about is how we actually had "shaving sharp" blades in antiquity. Not everybody was walking around with grizzled beards and crudely-cut hair, and it's not like the Romans had genetic factors giving them boyish faces. The middle and upper classes had access to some properly razor-sharp blades for a baby's-butt-smooth shave.
@simonpetrikov3992Ай бұрын
@@zimzoboh yeah copper is toxic to bacteria
@keithad6485Ай бұрын
I wondered some time ago, how Romans achieved being beard free.
@DavidCadena-h1l2 ай бұрын
Your attention to detail stands out. Your skills are self evident. Your voice overs are appreciated. You tell us what you're doing and why? Well done Sir 👏
@nogum97633 ай бұрын
The difference in colour is a restult of the krystalline lattice forming differently, since it cooled faster, causing their atoms to allign differently. The colour would become uniform, if you heated it up, and then cool it down again (Tempering). Depending on how hot you make it, and how fast you cool it you alter the properties of the metal quite drastically. It will make it softer or harder, depending on how much you heat it, and how quickly you cool it down again. Quick cooling will make it Hard and Brittle, slow cooling will result in it becming Soft and Ductile. If you are proficient in tempering, you can make the edge hard, while keeping the core and body soft, which will cause your axe to hold an edge for longer, and prevent it from chipping easily. I know how to do this with pretty much any Steel, but that one i am not familiar with. You can test it by casting or forging rods, then heat them and cool them differently and see the results by seeing how much the bend before breaking, and how much force it takes. This however requires specialised equipmen, but there is shops who wil gladly test these for you for a fee. also you can look it up, there have been tests on this very material, and the results should be publically available.
@aggese3 ай бұрын
Thats for iron alloys, not copper alloys, iirc it also dont work with most other alloys ether Copper and copper alloys will just go soft if you heat them regardless of how fast or slow you cool i down. That's why you have to work harden copper and bronze if you want it hard.
@simonmorris-p7m2 ай бұрын
When working copper you get it to red heat & quench in water to soften- the opposite of how iron works.
@iamrocketray2 ай бұрын
@@simonmorris-p7m It's called Annealing
@justhadrumsАй бұрын
This would be the ultimate material for making acoustic drums. Aluminum rings like a bell and bronze has a lower register but is super cutting and excites the room.
@tomt49463 ай бұрын
Guess I’m not going to sleep now
@wildhayvenАй бұрын
Same
@OverlycomplicatedswedeАй бұрын
I absolutely love the slight rose red color on the tin axe, it looks absolutely stunning.
@Minty13373 ай бұрын
how about bismuth bronze or black bronze? im always interested to see how different alloys perform
@just_that_crazy51793 ай бұрын
Bismuth bronze?
@Minty13373 ай бұрын
@@just_that_crazy5179 bronze of the bismuth variety, if i remember correctly it's an alloy of bismuth (obviously), zinc and copper and it looks neat, but i don't know how durable it is.
@aggese3 ай бұрын
@@Minty1337its mostly a self lubrecating alloy Their are basically infinite versions of bronze some work as expected some do something compleatly unexpected Black bronze looks neet but is 8% silver and 8% gold so get expensive quickly
@Minty13373 ай бұрын
@@aggese only 8% silver doesn't seem too bad, but the gold is a bit ouch. yea its weird how easily copper seems to 'bond' with other metals and produce funky alloys, and they all got such unique colors and properties too, far more fun than steel alloys in my opinion.
@sunshaker013 ай бұрын
There is another ancient bronze that was used that you want to stay away from even though it is actually pretty good, Arsenical Bronze. Arsenical Bronze contains between 1% and 12% Arsenic (yes a Toxic Heavy Metal), with the rest Copper (and sometimes Tin), making this stuff can cause serious health problems and even death. A number of Copper Ores contain significant amounts of Arsenic (Enargite, Olivenite and Tennantite), likely the first accidentally discovered alloy and type of bronze, but due to the improved characteristics it was likely deliberately manufactured fairly quickly. Highly levels of Copper and Arsenic were discovered in Ötzi's hair (Ötzi, The Iceman, is a 3000+ year old (Chalcolithic, Copper Age) natural mummy found in ice along the Austria-Italy border), suggesting he was involved copper smelting and that they were using some of these copper/arsenic ores.
@NatediggetydogАй бұрын
5:04 You can observe a similar effect by dropping a broomstick vertically on the ground repeatedly. The wood grain at the end of the broomstick compacts and the broomstick starts to bounce higher and higher with each drop.
@Gorillatilla3 ай бұрын
The weld wasn't contaminated, the filler wire was when you poured it onto the casting sand
@misterhat58233 ай бұрын
The sand contains oil, so that makes sense.
@Gorillatilla2 ай бұрын
@@misterhat5823 if you have a tig brush or even brake cleaner you should be able to avoid future contamination
@wizewizard1840Ай бұрын
I'm glad you made a follow up video! I absolutely love these axes. Such beauties.
@RG-3PO3 ай бұрын
I had cast a few bronze swords (just for fun) and they do not like chopping. I lack the set-up to cast them very thin, but the thick swords end up bending and twisting while chopping. This makes me want to cast a tin bronze axe now. I even have a spare axe handle... hmm.
@edgeldine34992 ай бұрын
I remember hearing about how Greek soldiers used to have to pound their swords back into shape during a skirmish, so maybe your not too far off with this..
@zimzob2 ай бұрын
@@edgeldine3499i think that may be a reference to Gaulish warriors using iron swords, which would have been what we call “wrought iron,” but it’s plausible that similar issues might be had with varying qualities of bronze available before modern scientific metallurgical knowledge. Often bronze swords were not made with full tangs, to save cost, and the blade would be riveted to the handle. These rivets were subject to breakage especially with slashing attacks, so bronze was often limited to short thrusting swords, arrowheads, and spearheads. Many of these short swords would only be sharpened at the point, the sides were left dull. The ancient Greeks also used a bronze sword with an incurving blade, called a _kopis_ , likely derived from the earlier Egyptian scythe-like _kopesh_ .Hammering the edge of the blade causes the metal to expand along the length of the blade as it is made thinner; this pushes against the C-shaped blade, which keeps the metal under compression and increases its hardness without becoming brittle. There was also a double edged pattern described as a “leaf shape”, which had incurving sides, taking advantage of this compression principle to allow sharp edges for slashing. When iron started to replace bronze, they would be made in the same patterns, until smiths learned how to take advantage of the different properties it afforded . This can be observed in the early versions of the Roman _gladius_ with its “narrow-waisted” appearance.
@AzureSymbiote2 ай бұрын
I am impressed. Your craftsmanship is high level.
@woodworker489Ай бұрын
One note, you've made metal axe that looks like a metal axe, but in Ancient times for quite a long time they made metal axes that look like stone axes, with huge bulbous convex edges that were basically indestructible. It took a long time for the form to adapt to the material properties.
@Shadrach666Ай бұрын
Not so - the earliest Bronze Age axes were diminutive and gracile. During the Chalcolithic they quickly evolved into gracile types - and the sheer cost and difficulty of extracting and melting enough metal to make an axe means they were small. If you held original early axes in hand, you would see they are much smaller than you imagine - often smaller than a man's hand, narrow butt and thin. That's why they used relatively large wooden handles, to add weight for cutting.
@jimday6244Ай бұрын
You satisfied a curiosity that I have always had about Bronze tools and their resilience and strength. Great job.
@PickledShark2 ай бұрын
Bronze is a fantastic material for tools and weapons. The reason it was ditched for iron when humanity moved to the Iron Age, wasn’t primarily because iron was superior in. performance, but because it was everywhere, and it was cheap. The only reason it wasn’t used prior to that was that no one had figured out how to work it.
@davidpowers91782 ай бұрын
No its because they figured out steel. Which is harder stronger and can hold an edge far better than bronze.
@PickledShark2 ай бұрын
@@davidpowers9178 That’s part of it, but most of it is because of logistics. Most of warfare comes down to logistics frankly. Bronze was a good material but relied upon massive trade networks and cooperation between empires. The moment iron working became readily accessible, it destabilized the entire political ecosystem. For the first time, even small nations could afford to equip armies with high quality arms and armor. The massive advantage that rich nations had enjoyed for millennia evaporated over the course of a century or two, and only a couple of them survived into the new era, and them, significantly diminished.
@zimzob2 ай бұрын
@@davidpowers9178steel wasn’t really in use until the Middle Ages - smiths in India developed a technique of hammering carbon (from the charcoal fuel in the forge) into iron, producing small pucks of steel called “wootz.” Somehow this knowledge reached Sweden, presumably through the far-ranging trade contacts of the Varangians, who also served as Imperial guards at Constantinople, and there smiths learned to pattern weld these pucks into swords made with steel, superior to anything else in Europe at the time, giving the Vikings an edge over the competition thus enabling them to conquer much of Europe, Russia, and the lands around the Mediterranean .
@scottyallen7237Ай бұрын
Great video thru and thru! What a wonderful blend of woodworking and metallurgy. The casting process was great, reminded me of freshman mfg processes class in college. I think the additional heft from the higher-density tin bronze help the hatchet function slightly better by removing bigger chips per chop. Maybe not as sharp and strong as steel, but much better corrosion resistance.
@hk04443 ай бұрын
it's very pretty and almost functional, love your videos, a real hatchet woulda got through this piece of wood in 2 shots though. But this isn't a critique, it works well as a commemorative item of all your hard work.
@jacara19813 ай бұрын
He wasn't putting in full strength because he didn't want them to fail, he just wanted to get them up to the point they would start to but not damage them. Also Old Oak is hard...really hard, i've had modern axes crack while chopping it. If you are going to cut it or chop it, don't cheap out on the axe/blade and get low end steel.
@DH-xw6jp3 ай бұрын
This was a real hatchet. Bronze axes were used over a longer period of time than steel hatchets have been.
@hk04442 ай бұрын
@@DH-xw6jp You know what else has been used for longer ? yourmom.
@DH-xw6jp2 ай бұрын
@@hk0444 best 5 buck suck this side of the Mississippi. Tell her Bill sent ya, and she'll let you call her mommy.
@DH-xw6jp2 ай бұрын
@@hk0444 best 5 buck suck this side of the Mississippi. Tell her Bill sent ya, and she'll let you call her mommy.
@boutrosboutrosboutrosboutros29 күн бұрын
Very attractive looking axes! I love all the technology information, but can we just marvel at your craftsmanship for a minute!
@anobis3 ай бұрын
In our country (Slovakia) we call this traditional kind of bronze hatchet ,,the wallashqua,,.
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis97142 ай бұрын
Im surprised youre surprised bronze axes work. You know in my langauge the word for bronze is vara meaning force/power cos in the bronze age those who had bronze and not stone had the stuff.
@joshportieАй бұрын
There really was no such thing as a bronze or stone age. Some people had more advanced things. And people with stone tools continued until this day.
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714Ай бұрын
@@joshportie We define the ages based on what the most advanced thing is.
@loungelizard39222 ай бұрын
The design looks identical to my Helko Rheinland hatchet. Loved this video, I wish more things were made in bronze, even if it is more expensive, it just looks so cool and premium
@iscariotproject3 ай бұрын
you shouldnt compare them to iron or steel,you compare them to rock axes...that are horrible to work with,a giant leap for humanity
@yoeyyoey89373 ай бұрын
Bronze is still quite good compared to iron and steel. In fact it’s better than a lot of iron and steel, just not as good as specific types of steel
@ArcaneTinker3 ай бұрын
I'd be interested to see how they compare to the non sparking tools of today. Beryllium Copper is what is used now and it's dust is toxic from what I understand. I cast my own aluminum bronze axe head about 10 years ago, but never got this far because I made the eye way undersized. It was clunky
@LarsonFamilyFarm-LLCАй бұрын
Captivating...do not destroy them, for the metal...they're priceless.
@melissahunt6125Ай бұрын
Thank you for your video and it was so beautiful to watch you casting , forging ,, making the handles and your narration Top notch video Bravo
@gavincross2902Ай бұрын
Your moulding skills are impressive. Thanks for the video.
@Brommear2 ай бұрын
Wonderful workmanship! Naval guns used to be made of bronze, so I'm not really surprised that it stood up so well.
@leightonolsson4846Ай бұрын
The handles you made are gorgeous, and the colour of bronze is so lovely
@cottonmouth712 ай бұрын
Man ...the hammered edges look AMAZING !
@julianmcfarlane84452 ай бұрын
I’ve used bronze gardening hand tools for 25 years, love them.
@marius35mm2 ай бұрын
The cold forge looks so good!
@SyntaxDaemonАй бұрын
Absolutely beautiful work, pure art. Excellent video as well. Truly a gem!
@user-kl5zd2oe3e2 ай бұрын
That's some of the cleanest casting i've ever seen!
@mattnobrega6621Ай бұрын
Wicked awesome axes. The contrast between the handle and the axe heads is very nice. Especially with the hammered edge look. 😎👍
@garrettrobins98742 күн бұрын
Love how you blend three d printing with old techniques
@sage52962 ай бұрын
ngl, the cast metal with the 3d printing layer lines actually looks really neat imo
@lancethrustworthyАй бұрын
Well done. Adequate camerawork. Suitable audio. Well narrated. Thumbs up.
@Atanar893 ай бұрын
I am really happy with this video. The last aluminum bronze video must have had people thinking that bronze age people must have been stupid to make their tools out of bronze.
@jacara19813 ай бұрын
Its amazing how much a few % difference can change the final outcome.
@aggese3 ай бұрын
Its even worse than that some alloys are none inuative in hiw they behave and even hard to predict with modern science
@jacara19813 ай бұрын
@aggese it really is a art. Ratios, temperature, cooling rate, cooling time, reheating and tempering among others can all cause vastly different outcomes.
@erickchristensen746Ай бұрын
Oh hey a Vegas KZbinr? And of something that i enjoy too. This video was pretty neat. And yeah 8:12 haha we don't really have anything to test an axe on any trees that don't exist going outside the city limits. Got to travel far north in Nevada to find any real woodlands. Born and raised here in Vegas myself so it's cool to see content creators from my city.
@letssee83972 ай бұрын
Hearing that you're in your workshop and not outside makes me think you have an air-conditioned workshop and that makes me really happy Hot, muggy, gross workshops are rough when you have lots of work to do
@OnTheRiver662 ай бұрын
Great video! I handled a bronze sword blade I believe 3000 years old from the Middle East. It was in amazing condition and the edge was still sharp. I have never underestimated bronze tools and weapons ever since. I was living near UNGH (university of North Carolina) a few years ago and there was a book in their library that showed details of hundreds of bronze weapons.
@dallassukerkin68782 ай бұрын
Sir, those are things of beauty! You are a talented fellow and no mistake!
@skoolzone2 ай бұрын
I still have my Norland ax. My mom bought me for backpacking when I was 13. Same design great for packing and wearing on your belt.
@25vrd48Ай бұрын
Really nice hatchets . Keep up the great videos and comparing metal contents versus strength . Great video .
@searchiemusicАй бұрын
the airpods in while narrating gives the same vibes as someone who comes into my cafe and asks for a latte and throws a 10 dollar bill on the counter ngl
@harryrabbit28702 ай бұрын
On another channel (Metatron) a medieval and ancient warfare/history enthusiast was discussing how bronze was a lot tougher than most modern people give it credit for, stating that bronze weapons were still serviceable options for ancient warriors and people thousands of years ago, even with the introduction of iron weapons. They would not have had access to machines and pure ores but you just proved to me at least that our ancestors, using tin bronze, would have had wicked edged tools and weapons of bronze. Really enjoyed this. Thank you.
@zachariavallickad72642 ай бұрын
They are not just hatchets, they're works of art.
@soaringvulture2 ай бұрын
Note that the C630 aluminum bronze that you used can be quenched and tempered just like carbon steel. So you can produce a very good hard edge on this material.
@robertoreguenes2 ай бұрын
That finished product looks amazing
@bonitabromeliadsАй бұрын
i lie how it came out naturally ribbed. I'd rock it like that. Looks great.
@CurtHowland2 ай бұрын
Boiled lindseed oil. Yes, my go-to. I used it on a birch walking staff, and the thing is like iron. And beautiful.
@rustynail9007Ай бұрын
They turned out gorgeous, fit for a bronze age warrior.
@howitworks36073 ай бұрын
These are awesome. And they’re probably even better than they seem here because the other end of the wood wasn’t supported, so the movement likely took a lot of energy out of your hits
@rushmoreidsystems7323Ай бұрын
I would like to suggest that you do this with a replica if Oetzi the Iceman's copper axe. I bet the copper has been analyzed, so if there are any other metals in the copper in significant (intentional) amounts, you should be able to replicate that. A "How well did Oetzi the Iceman's Hatchet Actually Work?" would be a great video!
@madisonhasson89813 ай бұрын
Copper and aluminum both conduct heat extremely well. Copper also changes color on its surface with heat, due to oxidation, depending on how hot it got. When you TIG welded, you made a hot spot. The heat spreads outward, very quickly. Once the copper gets hot enough to oxidize, it will. Just around the TIG weld, the IG controls oxidation, but once the heat gets outside of the inert gas, it oxidizes.
@PoppyMaltzАй бұрын
Tension is who you think you should be. Relaxation is who you are.
@michaelbarbour11223 ай бұрын
A lovely job you've done with these. A couple of small points about the hafting of your heads. Hickory is a good choice, however when you choose your wood for the handle, the grain should run in line with the length (about 90 deg from what you have). this will lessen the likelihood of you splitting the length of your handle on impact. Additionally, there is no reason to use the metal wedges, they will add nothing to the holding. Some would argue that by splitting your (wood) wedge, that you have now actually weakened the hold of your wedge. These are just "fine points". I don't want to detract from your very fine work here.
@patrickdegenaar949524 күн бұрын
Beautiful work! I would have been intrigued to see how tough they were against steel, but that would have been destructive.
@garethbaus54713 ай бұрын
The slightly different color where you welded it is probably because different alloying elements vaporize at slightly different rates when molten this slightly influences the color and melting temperature but isn't a big deal under normal use. This phenomenon is used by jewelers when they need to make multiple solder joints on the same piece of jewelry since older solder joints can remain solid when you heat the part to melt the solder for new joints.
@christopherleubner66333 ай бұрын
You can make very strong aluminum bronze by adding about 2% iron to it, also could add 5% titanium or 0.5% beryllium. Any of these alloys is as strong as steel and the Be one can get to Rc of over 60. All will work harden with cold forging over Rc 50.
@Swingylad2 ай бұрын
You deserve more subs man. Keep up the good work! 👍
@greything91692 ай бұрын
I was messing around with copper and indium a couple months back because I thought I could make bronze out of that. I figured that since indium and aluminum are in the same group I could just make a similar alloy. I'm not a foundryman, I just used a blow torch and fire brick to melt everything which is probably why the aluminum that I used at first just burned away. The indium didn't burn away and it mixed well with the copper. The problem is that a 50/50 indium bronze mix was way too brittle to be practical for anything.
@moobles2998Ай бұрын
Generally speaking you want 5-15 % non-copper in a bronze. Get at minimum 5 times as much copper as you had, mix it up again with your existant brick and you will have 1 part indium 6 parts copper bronze. No idea of the strength of it though.
@chuckaddison51343 күн бұрын
If I'm not mistaken, one formulation of the Tin-Bronze was called Ordanance Bronze and was used to cast Cannon until it became too expensive, and iron casting was mature enough to replace it.
@DebianDog3 ай бұрын
very cool 😎 I've always wondered how tools and weapons from the bronze age would have held up. I wish you would have done a modern day hatchet,of a near size for comparison because it seemed very slow going there for both hatchets compared to my store bought one. I also think the weight helped the non-aluminum one chop better. Hard so say. However, I understand it's hard to compare when you're using, kiln dry lumber in the desert vs my wet logs on the east coast.