52 Arabian Jews and the Birth of Islam (Jewish History Lab)

Brief look at the Arabian Jewish population in the early sixth century.
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[@maximilianUTU]

Wonderful ! In my youth I took Jewish Studies at the HJS in the University of Heidelberg - but studying Your lectures is even better. Million thanks for Your superb lectures.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Thanks for the kind words! Enjoy in good health.

[@TheLatiosnlatias02]

I wonder if you've heard of Jewish tribes namely: *Banu Nadir, Banu Qaynuqa, Banu Qurayza, Banu Awf, Banu Harith, Banu Shutayba, Hejazi Jews, Habbani Jews* which were tribes of Arabia during Muhammad's era. They were included in point 31 of the Constitution of Medina as allies to the Muslims, being as "one nation", but retaining their Jewish religion. Banu Qaynuqa was the tribe that started this betrayal which resulted their expulsion.

[@joahua122]

banu awf and banu harith is arab dummy they are qahtanite not israelite

[@arturturk5926]

Became a Muslim 14years ago at 38 years of age, partly because of my age and experience with religion I took its study very seriously. I found your assessment to very fair, Thank you and may God reward you.

[@doyouknoworjustbelieve6694]

All religions are man made 3/4 of the stories in the Quran are copied from Biblical myths and legends. The Quran is mostly the Old Testament version 2, but in Arabic, with more modern rules and regulations for its time that are still abhorrent and barbaric for our time: Allowing and practicing slavery and sex-slavery of captured women ‎ملك اليمين was repeated as normal 14 times in the Quran Harsh vengeful disfiguring punishments that are not meant to correct and reform but spread terror. A cheap and supremacist look at non believers. Now back to scientific and historical myths in Islam and I will stick to those common with Judaism and Christianity; The creation of the universe in six days (periods) where Earth takes the lion share in an upside down backward ignorant order (Surat Fussilat/ Book of Genesis) Creation of the first human being from the dust (sand/ mud) of Earth as a male adult with no childhood and his female from his own body for him to mate with her (his own genes) and their kids have children through incest!!!!! Earth in described in both books as a large flat disc with seven heavens supported ABOVE Earth with no pillars that we can see. The Sun and moon created after Earth and they each have an indoor dent orbit but failing to mention that Earth is in an orbit too and that the Earth and moon effectively orbit the sun. The flood myth The Abrahamic covenant myth, given the land of Canaan to some wandering Mesopotamian. The Exodus story and receiving the 10 commandments and entire Torah in the Egyptian desert. King Solomon that DOES NOT EXIST in history Virgin Birth Gog and Megog The double horned king End of day wars and bloodshed The return of ‘a’ messiah Heaven and Hell Except heaven in Islam is a Brothel with sex females and handsome young male servants غلمان / ولدان

[@doyouknoworjustbelieve6694]

All religions are man made 3/4 of the stories in the Quran are copied from Biblical myths and legends. The Quran is mostly the Old Testament version 2, but in Arabic, with more modern rules and regulations for its time that are still abhorrent and barbaric for our time: Allowing and practicing slavery and sex-slavery of captured women ‎ملك اليمين was repeated as normal 14 times in the Quran Harsh vengeful disfiguring punishments that are not meant to correct and reform but spread terror. A cheap and supremacist look at non believers. Now back to scientific and historical myths in Islam and I will stick to those common with Judaism and Christianity; The creation of the universe in six days (periods) where Earth takes the lion share in an upside down backward ignorant order (Surat Fussilat/ Book of Genesis) Creation of the first human being from the dust (sand/ mud) of Earth as a male adult with no childhood and his female from his own body for him to mate with her (his own genes) and their kids have children through incest!!!!! Earth in described in both books as a large flat disc with seven heavens supported ABOVE Earth with no pillars that we can see. The Sun and moon created after Earth and they each have an indoor dent orbit but failing to mention that Earth is in an orbit too and that the Earth and moon effectively orbit the sun. The flood myth The Abrahamic covenant myth, given the land of Canaan to some wandering Mesopotamian. The Exodus story and receiving the 10 commandments and entire Torah in the Egyptian desert. King Solomon that DOES NOT EXIST in history Virgin Birth Gog and Megog The double horned king End of day wars and bloodshed The return of ‘a’ messiah Heaven and Hell Except heaven in Islam is a Brothel with sex females and handsome young male servants غلمان / ولدان

[@the_son_of_man]

Atadog

[@alexjames7670]

Once again, thank you for the incredibly insightful videos!

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Glad you enjoyed it.

[@sallyonthegini3349]

Thank you! Such a touchy topic, one we had to study as mandatory credits in Tehran University (of course written from the Islamic narrative) and which, as a Jew, I found painful. Dr, have you also noted that Yathrib sounds like a cognate of Yithro? Could it be significant?

[@joemosely9383]

Love this Channel. Filling in so many blanks....👍🏾

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@heathenwizard]

I love videos on cooking and history, and the algorithm recommended your video on donuts and Hanukkah! Thank you for making these videos they are delightful and enriching in equal measure!

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@bingeltube]

Hello Mr. Abramson. Perhaps, you are not aware that some of your background text is sometimes covered up by your head. Thus, e.g. important terms can sometimes not be viewed. Otherwise, thank you very much for another great, but very short, talk about this fascinating episode in history. I had no idea about Arab Jewish tribes settled along the Red Sea coast of Saudi Arabia.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Thanks for the suggestion

[@eddiesanders2719]

I learned quite a bit from you in this video. Thank you Rabbi!

[@zackmano]

My grandfather was Egyptian and he would always tell me that two Jewish brothers called the "Achwan Sha'arani" (the hairy brothers) helped Muhammad to write the Quran. I've never researched its historical accuracy, but that is what Egyptian Jews seem to believe themselves.

[@xdan0263]

False

[@shivabreathes]

Check out the work done on this by scholar Odon Lafontaine. His research affirms that Jewish sects had significant influence on the development of Islam and the Quran. Muslims are following the Old Testament Jewish dietary laws and practicing circumcision etc. Surely that’s not just a coincidence.

[@nasirahmed9525]

Totally untrue ,no such person,but the Muslims scribes did write the revelation

[@zackmano]

@nasirahmed9525 Whoever wrote it lifted a ton of information from the Torah and Midrash, but didn't do a very good job. To someone familiar with Jewish texts, reading the Quran comes off as a pretty badly done forgery. Whoever the source for the Jewish information was wasn't a good one at all.

[@anonymousdude5550]

​@@zackmanoread the Torah and their are alot of Contradictions, read the Quran and there is not a single Contradiction, the Quran has higher authority than the Torah, because the Torah has been Corrupted from it's original form due to the greediness of some of the j3ws

[@hasananyabwile3538]

I think that you should read over the Constitution of Madinah…..

[@HK00088]

Didn’t Jews broke a treaty there and killed a shepherd and stole from him and ended up being expelled or persecuted?

[@hunainshoukatsoomro2057]

Sir Can you give a lecture on the topic of Gog and Magog?

[@tomsuiteriii9742]

The history of Jews in the Arabian Peninsula is an interesting, although esoteric, topic. There doesn’t seem to be many resources out there covering it besides early Jewish and Islamic religious writings. Any suggestions on some good secondary literature?

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Try the works of Norman Stillman.

[@tomsuiteriii9742]

@@HenryAbramsonPhD That's helpful, thanks. :)

[@ancientmonotheism5118]

Haggai Mazuz wrote a fairly balanced work on Medinan Jews, check it out in BRILL, while most orientalists tend to propose rather bias notions

[@AbrahamsBridges]

Dr. Abramson, do you happen to have a video about the Mountain Jews of Russia?

[@James_Bussman]

Very insightful and informative, great work as always.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Brsrafal]

Great channel whats your knowledge on jews from caucuses mainly azerbaijan who speak persian are they sephardic merzahi or persian?

[@kashf69]

Salam....what a wonderful series...I asked you this question a year ago....thanks fir answering in detail. However, the definitive ans5to origin of Jewish tribes in Hijaz eludes me...can you be a bit more specific about origin/migration period of Jews into Hijaz?

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Have a look at Baron v. IV; also I'm hopeful that the forthcoming volume of the Cambridge History of Judaism will address your question in more detail.

[@kashf69]

@@HenryAbramsonPhD Sir.....what is Baron v.IV? Can you be a bit more specific? Is there a forum/blog where we can ask you such questions in details?

[@Nkwenkl18]

@@kashf69 hi there, I believe Dr. Abramson is talking about Salo W. Baron’s collection of books titled “A Social and Religious History of the Jews” and he wants you to check out volume 4.

[@kashf69]

@@Nkwenkl18 Thank you so much

[@laurenannkattner7030]

This is fascinating new to me information.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Glad to have you with us!

[@yosefzee7605]

just curious, why do you usualy have that qualifing condition: "No crazy people, please." I feel so left out!

[@syedabdulwahidsohaily493]

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[@beliefinjustice448]

I’m not sure how accurate it is to characterize Muhammad’s relationship with Jews as “one of armed conflict.” Robert Wright’s _Evolution of God_ makes the opposite argument in a section of Chapter 16 called “Did the Break With the Jews Really Happen?” I’ll post the relevant pages below.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

TY

[@beliefinjustice448]

Can’t find the relevant pages of Robert Wright’s book anywhere but here’s a teaser: The idea that theological differences were the prime mover of intra-Abrahamic conflict has natural appeal today, when dogmatic certainty pervades tensions among Muslims, Christians, and Jews. But the truth is more complicated. A close look at the Koran suggests that the issues Muhammad had with Christians and Jews weren’t only, or even mainly, theological. What’s more, as we’ll see, the depth of the tensions, including the intensity of Muhammad’s famous “break with the Jews,” may have been exaggerated in Islamic tradition and in history books. In any event, to think of Muhammad as clinging to a rigid creed is to misunderstand who he was and how he built Islam into a force that has been with the world ever since.…evolutionofgod.net/excerpts_chapter16

[@beliefinjustice448]

@Hispot Mesopotamia هههه بالطبع لا!

[@foxosama5646]

Thank you for this Rabbi, much appreciated.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

My pleasure, but not a Rabbi, just a regular guy.

[@almurshid100]

The Arabs were called the Ismailis, meaning the children of Ishmael, like the children of Israel (Banu Israel). Ismail, according to the Arabic sources, did not speak Arabic, but rather learned it. Arabs are not all Arabs, and it is an Arab who speaks Arabic. Ishmael carried with him the belief of his father Ibrahim and spread it among the Arabs and among his sons, so what Islam brought about regarding monotheism was not new.

[@shivabreathes]

It obviously was not new. It started with Judaism hundreds of years before Islam.

[@ahmedalsaaidi3714]

I am from yemen.before islam,the dominant religion was Judaism in yemen.jews had tribes like other arabs,and they had treaties with arab tribes against other arab tribes.sometimes they won and other times they lost.that was the situation in arabia.

[@MrPickledede]

I am a Yemeni Jew my grandparents were born in Ba'adan Ibb

[@aceworld4436]

​@@MrPickledede- What village in Ba'adan? If you don't mind me asking....

[@MrPickledede]

@@aceworld4436 najd al Ba'adan

[@aceworld4436]

@@MrPickledede - Najd? Are you sure that's the whole word? What's your family sur name and I'll try to figure it out for you.

[@kathleeenmcclintock4931]

Thank you!

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

You're welcome!

[@daisyk9845]

You said tribal betrayal but you did not specify who did the betrayal and what was the result of the betrayal?

[@TheLatiosnlatias02]

Banu Qaynuqa

[@WoundedEgo]

I definitely could not read the Constitution of Medina without my reading glasses!

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Funny

[@etcwhatever]

Hum medina means city yes? We have this surname in Portugal. I wonder if they are descent from either arabic or jewish people.

[@thinkandthank7406]

in all Semitic languages

[@anonymousdude5550]

Well Portugal was conquered by the Muslims and the region of Iberia was renamed Al-Andalus, so Spanish and Portuguese probably have some Arabic loan words due to the many centuries that Muslims had Portugal and Spain

[@vieiradosreismariadelurdes9105]

​​@@anonymousdude5550 They were not exactly "Muslims " ...there is mutch more in to "that"... 😶‍🌫 🔎Resurch for the real truth and you will finde out that truth.️

[@911elijah]

Jacob went to Mecca in Genesis 29

[@saeed319]

Ive heard debate for the existence of MECCA during Muhammads time. Your map at 0:55 clearly shows Mecca. Can you confirm this area existed from your historical Jewish maps and textual sources? And furthermore, Muhammad lived there? Was the black stone/Kabah always present there?

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Scholarly consensus agrees. I don't know much about the history of the Ka'aba.

[@saeed319]

@@HenryAbramsonPhD If Abraham lived in Jerusalem, evicted his wife Hagar. Did she settle in Mecca according to Islamic tradition. The distance between Jerusalem and Mecca is 900 miles. How could Abraham travel so far on a regular basis to see his other concubine/wife. I am struggling to reconcile the 900 mile journey. Any knowledge you can share on this?

[@PathOfAvraham]

@@saeed319 In the Hebrew tradition Hagar (a"h) never made such a journey.

[@bhaashatepe5234]

@@saeed319 Don't forget to to include the first inscription that features the term the MHMD , referring to the Praised ONE, which is present in one of the inscriptions from the Himyarite Kingdom. Source: The Judaism of the Ancient Kingdom of Ḥimyar in Arabia:

[@MrChannel19]

Scholar Henry, From some of my readings Jews were living in the town of Medina prior to Islam taking over since the Jews left early and moved on! Please correct me if you can confirm!

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

I discuss your question in the video, don't I?

[@nophotoplease1]

Thank you for discussing such a fascinating historical period with such profound and penetrating insight as usual. One question: you characterized Muhammad’s relationship with Jewish tribes as being generally reflective of the standard patterns of inter-tribal conflict prominent amongst inhabitants of the 6th century Arabian peninsula. However, couldn’t it be argued that Muhammad in fact possessed grand territorial ambitions in that his military exploits and Quranic directives first initiated then eventually perpetuated the proliferation of Islam across the entire Arabian peninsula & beyond? Does this not constitute a radical re-adjustment of a status quo largely dominated by peaceful polytheistic tribes coexisting with one another (and with Jews) already for many centuries prior to the Birth of Islam?

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Interesting argument; I'm not as familiar with the literature on the question, though.

[@lsdlrf]

So much I don’t know...so much differing of opinions, even whether Jesus or Muhammed existed!🤔 Scholarly consensus is very helpful...Thank you , Dr Henry.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

You are very welcome!

[@AdamSahr-cj4kf]

Jesus is neither an old testament figure nor a historical one, Muhammad historicity doesn't even need to be proven and choosing to deny it is choosing obscurantism...

[@shivabreathes]

@@AdamSahr-cj4kfThe death of Jesus on the cross is testified by contemporary Roman historians of the period, in other words a neutral third party has verified that he did exist. No such independently verifiable evidence is available about the life of Muhammad. The first historically verifiable documents about him don’t start to appear until two hundred years after his death. You may choose not to believe this, of course. If you are truly interested in the truth though then go and do the research and be open to a change of perspective. P.S. I don’t seem to remember anything about Muhammad in the Old Testament, either. As for Jesus in the Old Testament, there are several references, most notably in the book of Isaiah, where it is predicted that a virgin shall give birth.

[@mooronice]

Thank you for sharing such objective and unbiased gems of knowledge. I have grown addicted to your lectures and delivery. Before I forget, why is it that Christianity never took root in Morocco? Is it because Jews and Muslims fought any such attempt in the wake of the reconquista?

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

I don't really know, sorry.

[@oneing4206]

Mooronice Thats an interesting question. We know that the growth of muslims in conquered lands was a slow and gradual process. But we see a difference in North-Africa between Egypt and the Maghreb countries. In the 14th century we find that the Copts are still the majority in Egypt while the christians in the Maghreb countries were already a small minority. Explanations that I came across had to do with the numerous wars, heresies and consequent persecutions under the Romans in the centuries before the Muslim conquest. And regarding the difference between Egypt and the Maghreb. I came across the claim that by the time of the Muslim conquests the monastic tradition in the Maghreb was non-existent, partly because of the prior persecutions. While Egypt on the other hand still had a strong monastic tradition. In addition to this, the Romans and Byzantines could never really assimilate the indigenous peoples like the Amazigh.

[@zafirjoe18]

Also read about דאוד אבו יוסף the shomer of Petach Tikva.

[@zafirjoe18]

The Jewish Arabs were called מסתערבים. They disappeared totally. They dressed like Arabs even some prayed in Arabic. With the influx of Jews in the ottoman rule they eventually assimilated into the other communities.

[@zafirjoe18]

"מה שכתבת לי עוד מעלותך לארץ צבי ולעיר הקודש . . . אמנם שמענו כמה פעמים שיש לשם בני ברית מערביים נחשבים לרשעים גמורים מוסרים מפורסמים והם טורדים ומבלבלים האשכנזים שהם שומרי תורה." שו״ת מהר״י איסרלין

[@zafirjoe18]

The only remnant of an Arab Jew was a handful of Habbani Jews.

[@zafirjoe18]

www.makorrishon.co.il/nrg/images/archive/408x322/624/744.jpg Arab Jewish guards

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Thanks for commenting

[@sparta7968]

both qur raan and jewish teaching never told to love thier enemies ...but chistians were told to Love and forgive....

[@thinkandthank7406]

Or Turning the other cheek

[@shivabreathes]

It is indeed interesting and intriguing that Islam in terms of core belief and practice has borrowed so much from Old Testament Judaism. The dietary practices, circumcision, praying several times a day etc. Clearly there was a significant Jewish influence on the development of early Islam. It is of course, blasphemous for Muslims to acknowledge such a thing, but the truth is there in plain sight. Moses and Jesus are mentioned more than often in the Quran than Muhammad. I am not making that up …

[@da.1143]

Your words are correct and we do not deny that because all the prophets came with the same message, but the Jews believe in the last of the prophets, which is Moses, and we Muslims believe in all the prophets from Noah to Jesus and Muhammad.

[@user-ml5hx3ve8d]

islam is diftent it dint borow anyithng from you

[@MegaAnimeforlife]

To Muslims Christianity is a corruption and Judaism is outdated.

[@YannisH]

Interesting! I just found out my husband has Yemenite and Mizrahi Jewish blood mixed with Armenian. Shock for him..lol

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Fascinating!

[@baddbeliever]

The consciousness in Shi'a theology is grand about Khaibar. Most muslims don't know about this battle. As a matter of fact, I wondered if the Samson (shamshoon) of the tribe, Merhab, has some relationship to the term Merkava, the Israeli tank. There's this age old Ishmael-Isaac rivalry that continues till today.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Relevant comments. Not sure about the connection with Samson, the word Merkava is "chariot," related to the word for "riding" as in riding a horse.

[@AdamSahr-cj4kf]

The Shi'ah have made it their profession to doctor, distort and rewrite the early history of Islam to justify the very existence of their sect, they are still unashamedly doing it to this day and very prolifically...

[@baddbeliever]

@@AdamSahr-cj4kf honestly i think theyre progressive nature makes them want to reinvent the original religion on a continuous basis. i think they christian and jewish roots isn't a conspiracy but i think the people who kept hidden their ways brought them into the culture later on....and they're not just a sect..they're like a cult. they'll ruin those weak of heart...so much mental illness due to their force and power spiritually. a line of clergy and a kind that exists amongst them, strange and ill. the closer you get to them, the more this sickness can overcome you. try leaving them and they crush you and have you running back to them. childhood damages is what they focus on so do other cults like the sikhs.

[@AdamSahr-cj4kf]

@@baddbeliever They are not progressive at all, they are like a cameleon, they are constantly adjusting their manufactured stories and imagining new ones to suit the narrative they want, all, to remain RELEVANT...

[@mikeklein9923]

Descendants of Jethro, wondered about that, he would've converted his household etc and "CREATED" at least 1 tribe after leaving Moses

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Hmm

[@bufferzonning3091]

why do you think those learned Jews staying at madinah makkah etc or in other word in keddar area ? who are they waiting for ? what are they looking for ?

[@salmarahman8989]

Waiting for the fulfillment of the prophecy in Isaiah 42! But, they won't admit that! :)

[@aceworld4436]

They knew an awaited prophet would come out from Mecca but never thought he would be an Arab from Mecca.

[@seeker329]

Could you also explain if mulsims offered friendship and cooperation to Jews and the nature of betrayles and schemes by the Jews against the Muslims during that time and the conspiracies with the people of Mecca against Muslims.

[@stevenv6463]

I wonder if there is much about what the Jews in Arabia believed. I have heard they were normal mainstream rabbinic Judaism, but I wonder how this is determined.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Not too many sources.

[@zx300ttt]

Thank you for the video. I am Iraqi I took dna test I was 98% Saudi but my last name is Benhlail was there Jews named Benhlail?

[@Dovid2000]

Excellent introduction into Jewish history in Arabia!

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

I'm glad that you enjoyed the class! Thank you for being Public Subscriber!

[@fay1298]

Thank you sir. I’m really enjoying your lectures and learning a lot. Just a comment, historians struggle to find any documentation on 7th century Islam. Most of what we know about Islam from Arab sources was written 200 years after the death of Muhammad. Can we be certain that the Medina Constitution really happened? I’m aware of non Islamic sources of Sebeos and Doctrina Jacobi but they do not mention this event. Do you know of any Arab Jewish sources that might have survived in the Arabian desert? Thank you kindly.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Glad you're enjoying the lectures. Jewish history is largely dependent on the Muslim biographers of Muhammed for this specific episode.

[@fay1298]

@@HenryAbramsonPhD thank you. That seems to be the case. What we know on Islam from Islamic sources was written by the Abbasids.

[@bhaashatepe5234]

@@HenryAbramsonPhD Don't forget to to include the first inscription that features the term the MHMD , referring to the Praised ONE, which is present in one of the inscriptions from the Himyarite Kingdom. Source: The Judaism of the Ancient Kingdom of Ḥimyar in Arabia

[@AdamSahr-cj4kf]

Most of what you know dates back to only 200 years after Muhammad? Well, you don't seem to have made a decent enough effort. The Umayyad Khilafah started right after Ali, who is Muhammad's first cousin and one of his first companions. And guess what, the Umayyad era is abundantly documented with events spanning the entire empire, from Central Asia to Iberia. Muhammad is not a biblical figure, he is a historical figure, and that really annoys those who want to spread doubts about his very existence. By the way, even the Abbassid Khilafah started less than two hundred years after Muhammad's death...

[@bhaashatepe5234]

@@AdamSahr-cj4kf read this online "The Judaism of the Ancient Kingdom of Ḥimyar in Arabia: A Discreet Conversion". My question: what was the prophet doing in 523AD, fortyseven years before his supposed birth in 570AD?

[@36uabi46]

Thank you so much Dr Abramson As a muslim may i thank you on behaf of my people, for your academic videos And if you allow me , i would like to share some historical facts 1 there was no jews in mekka at all 2 the jews tribes in medinah were splited in their loyalty before .pyrophet Mohammad call arose ,2 minor tribes were considered allies to alkhzraj tribe, and one major tribe joinred the aws tribe, given that fact , prophet Mohammad upon him be peace did not deprive the jews from any kind of independance, because the alliaance in madinah society was already based on tribal issues not on religeous issues 3 the conflict between muslim and jews took place latter on, But there was some great history of some loyal jews who lived and dead as jews, but commited to their treaty with prophet Mohammad For instance ( Mokhayreek) the man who repudiated the situation of other jews in ohod battle and stood up to fight with muslims against the pegans of makkah Thank you my dear

[@lorraineokie2054]

Abram was from Ur and was led to leave to go to Canaan so this is Assyrian territory near Persian Gulf So Abram than became Abraham Covenant with Elohim when did Abraham become Jewish ?

[@valerym1400]

Two Jewish tribes were slaughtered and one Jewish tribe was robbed and expelled from Medina. Later all Jewish tribes were expelled from Khaibar. So Jews have more reason than Arabs to say: "Remember Khaibar" or "Remember Medina".

[@stateofmaharlikaphilippine5633]

of course the Arab and the Hebrew people are descendants of prophet abraham from ishmael and isaac , the question is prophet Abraham are Jews or Christian?

[@chanchannoi1135]

He was Hanifi

[@Brother-i4x]

Stop being so nice and cool to see what happens.

[@Asdfhjkl998]

Sir I am muslum , I have soo much Research What is islam , my understanding is Islam Is sect of Judaism , unfortunately what is now Islam shape long after concord Christian and Zarathustra’s land , As a muslim we have to learn Tora and get the true knowledge of Hashem …..

[@Stolas1777]

I gotta say Islam is so verifiably false if the Kaaba was Abrahamic don’t you think the Jews, being as they were certainly numerous enough back then would’ve tried to take it back from the pagans, but it wasn’t it was just a pagan shrine that Muhammad yimach shmo incorporated the pagan rites into Islam to make the switch for Arabs easier just like romans incorporated pagan stuff into Christianity to make the switch easier basically same store under new management if you will

[@user-my7cw9us9l]

Were there not Jews that held true to there original teachings ,the few among them ,which led to the understanding of the coming of the last and only universal prophet hence the migration ? There were Jews waiting but they were expecting an Israelite like themselves , there history tells us why , what their ancestors did concerning Jesus was repeated with a lot of the Jews when it came to Muhammad pbuh .

[@Ukie88]

Constitution of Medina sounds like Putin’s imagined constitution with Ukraine in modern times. Nice try, but doesn’t fly with a modern Ukraine.

[@k.draghyi8424]

Maybe look at your filthy bible instead!!! So, modern!!!

[@zafirjoe18]

Itbach al yahud slogan started with that man. When the Jews of medina practically laughed at him , for mimicking the stories of the Torah even the midrashim . Well we know what happened to them. He also changed the direction of the prayer . It was more than just tribal alliances , it was a smack to his pride , very similar to Martin Luther vitriol against the people when the Jews didn’t except his version.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

I can always count on you for comments.

[@zafirjoe18]

Henry Abramson the Jews for too long were scared to say it the way it is , so much so that I read some Rabbis in Yemen apologetically said that Mohamed was a prophet but only for the Ishmaelites .

[@OmarOsman98]

@@zafirjoe18 I'm happy Muhammad peace be upon him ridded Arabia of the filth of Banu Quraiza and Banu Nadir.

[@moshiourrahman4895]

I as a Muslim we believe all the children of Abraham ... Moses, David, Solomon were Muslim prophet ❤😊

[@user-eu8ub9cm5t]

More information Please on Mohammed two Jewish wives and more information on connection to Jews of Ethiopia right across The Red Sea as well as Egypt right across Red Sea and Jewish Kingdom Yemen

[@SadmimHossain]

Actually early of Muhammad's (sm) encounter with the jewish community was very positive according to all the historical biographies of the prophet (sm). It all changed when the jews conspired against him and invited the pagans to attack the city of Medina.

[@Drbaruchmaimon]

You are historically wrong. The accounts you cited are from Muhammadan sources not Jewish ones. The reality, because no other group could have undermined Muhammad's new creed than the Jews the results would be clear, and the beginning of Islamic antisemitism. Now you know the real rest of the story.

[@SadmimHossain]

@@Drbaruchmaimon There is no such thing as Islamic antisemetism since Islam itself is from Semetic origin. And I am not wrong, we have all the early sources and historical records.

[@Drbaruchmaimon]

@@SadmimHossain As I stated earlier, Islamic sources are rejected by Jewish and secular academic sources. In other words, what you presented was Muhammadan view base on propaganda to present Muhammdanism in a good postive light. Moreover, to assert that Muhammdanism is not antisemitic is semantic distortion of the highest level. Furthermore, you're a careless reader as it's clear you do not understand the difference between the term 'antisemitism' and 'Semetic'as the meaning of one term has nothing to do with other. The term 'Semetic' is a language desgination that applies to Jews, Arabs, and others. The concept 'antisemitism' = is hatred and hostility towards Jews. And thus the claim that Muslims cannot be antisemitic because they themselves are Semites is a semantic distortion to hide the truth that Muslims can indeed be antisemitic. Thus, your assertion and defense is categorically false as witnessed by countless Jews throughout history who experienced the wrath of Islamic antisemitism which began with Muhammad who the Jews rejected as a prophet and his new creed and as a result and inevitably would suffer the consequences. And now you know more of the rest of the story.

[@user-ml5hx3ve8d]

​@@Drbaruchmaimonwhat you doing in palestine hatte is not enogh fot you zionst i mean not jews. and the question is how the hell jews know arabian history better than arabs and muslims you dont know anything

[@montius]

The Muslims with the Kingdom of Solomon. We against the Kingdom of Jeroboam

[@salamyaya162]

The Jews came to Arabia as refugees because of Roman and Persian persecutions.

[@hihello-yv2tt]

There is only one worthy of worship and that is Allah. Islam is the pure monotheistic faith all prophets and messengers of Allah followed. Adam and his wife who are the parents of mankind came down to earth from Paradise where they were created. Paradise is the true home of mankind. No one is superior due to color or ethnicity, what makes one person better than another person is piety to God Almighty. There is no mistake in The Quran but there is many mistakes in the Bible that the Quran mentions correctly such as the position in society of the leader at the time of Prophet Yusuf (Joseph) peace be upon him. The Quran mentions he was a king and the Bible mentions he was a pharaoh. Yusuf was a vizier of Egypt while there also was the king that I mentioned. The Quran is correct and more recently the Rosetta Stone was decoded and what was found is that leader was a king and not a pharaoh. Islam is The true religion with undeniable proof and evidence. We Muslims believe in Jesus but not as God and we don’t believe God has a son. Jesus peace be upon him is a prophet and Messenger Of Allah (God) and he is the messiah. He wasn’t killed as Allah saved him before they could get to him. There is also scientific and historical miracles mentioned in the Quran such as the formation of the human embryo as well as the creation of honey in bees. There are Islamic prophecies that came true and will come true and I recommend everyone to try and learn about them. I myself know of people who were ill and suffering with issues (including black magic) and got cured miraculously when the Quran was recited over them. I invite everyone to learn about Islam.

[@noonefamily]

No context at all may god judge you for that.

[@garysantos7053]

The Story of Ishmael and Isaac in the Bible Ishmael and Isaac, sons of Abraham. Ishmael, the son of Abraham and the Egyptian handmaid Hagar, became the Father of Islam. Isaac, the son of Abraham and Abraham's wife Sarah Inherited Abraham's legacy of Judaism. Sarah, Abraham's wife refused Ishmael, Abraham's eldest son who would inherit Abraham's Legacy, and convinced Abraham to banish Hagar and her son Ishmael to the Desert. From the time of Abraham and Ishmael (1850 BCE) father of Islam to Muhammad in the 7th Century AD (601 - 700 AD) “Muhammad claimed he was a direct descendent of Ishmael.”

[@MrSparkums]

Who is Esau today, you know the Edomites, like Herod? 🤭

[@zafirjoe18]

Of all that was Medinat al-Quaibar , nothing Is left but the name “Yehud al Khaibar “ which the Arabs use to vilify each other with . I have noticed that if one of them called his fellow “Jew of Khaibar” , that was the worst of all imaginable insults. ( Ibn Sapir סערות תימן) The reason being is that they gave him a really hard time because of alliances they had with other tribes . Ali eventually conquered them but with a pact , which they broke after Mohamed died. From here comes the idea of Hudna which means , they make a pact if the enemy is too strong just for the time being, even deceit is allowed for eventual dominance .

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

thanks for commenting

[@OmarOsman98]

Sounds like thay is straight from the Talmud. Deception is all over the Talmud. Gentile denigrating is all over the Talmud. I spit on the Talmud.

[@zafirjoe18]

@@OmarOsman98 The Talmud was sealed in 500ce more than a hundred years before Majnoun walked the face of this earth.

[@OmarOsman98]

@@zafirjoe18 Muhammad is the Moses Like Prophet from your brothers, who you reject

[@OmarOsman98]

@@zafirjoe18 Yehudi HaNazi compiled the racist Talmud in 400 CE.

[@user-my7cw9us9l]

1st mistake....that Islam was born when Muhammad was !

[@afifdoghri7390]

There were no rabbinical jews in Medina unlike the case in Yemen. In Medina Muhammad was talking to Nazarenes and particularly to followers of John The Baptist who are not trinitarians

[@PathOfAvraham]

Same as Mandaeans?

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Thanks for your comment. Source?

[@cristeromoderno-apologetic112]

Would it be wise to say that the Hijazz was the biblical Madian?

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

I'm not sure what you mean. Midian?

[@cristeromoderno-apologetic112]

@@HenryAbramsonPhD I meant Madian.

[@salmarahman8989]

@@cristeromoderno-apologetic112 Yes, today's Hijazz is the biblical Madian. Unfortunately these so-called scholars don't even know their own history! They know nothing about Abraham... nothing about Madian Saleh... They don't have any knowledge about the latest archaeological evidences! So, how it's possible to rely on what these 'scholars' have been trying to proof! :)

[@shuvra73]

@@cristeromoderno-apologetic112 Yes, Hijaj is Biblical Madian.

[@MrSparkums]

It would be far more accurate to say Edomites mixed with Amalekites Ishmaelites and Moabites, not Arabs.. Though that wouldn't help with your popularity I am sure.. 👺

[@89pok]

Rav, according to Ibn Hisham's recension of Ibn Ishaq, the Constitution was composed before the real battles occurred. The Muslims' attacks on the Jews were then justified in their thinking because the Jews were "oath breakers"...not that they had had much of a choice in taking the oath. And to add, Jews were given a reliable status, but not within the boundaries of "Arabia" (not defined by the peninsula's boundaries), where they were ousted by the second Caliph Umar, according to the directive of Muhammad's dying wishes.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Interesting! Note, not a Rav, just a regular guy.

[@helderchimbalandongohelder7475]

Did Abraham set his foot in the Arabian Peninsula as the Muslims sources states? Was this Peninsula a center of trade as they say? Shalom.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

1) I don't know and 2) yes.

[@salmarahman8989]

@@HenryAbramsonPhD how come you don't know about the history of Abraham and Ka'aba!

[@polemeros]

You might be interested in the revisionist school of Islamic history which holds that it was Petra in Jordan where Islam originated. Eg, for the first century of Islam all the qiblas faced Petra. Fascinating stuff that challenges the canonized Muslim founding narrative.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Interesting

[@kakabawani4212]

Arabs and Israelite are the true children of ibrahim PBUH ibrahim first wife was Hager and son Ismael she never went to Jerusalem with ibrahim He was commanded by God. go to faraway place call Jerusalem( TODAY) where he married Sara and had son named( Issac) GOD almighty chose Issac"s children first for His religion and when they broke covenant with God then almighty chose ibrahim"s son Ismael for same reason to teach Islam PROPHET MOHAMMED was son of Ismael"s family

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Thanks for your contribution.

[@briansimons9472]

Surely the conflict between Muhammad and the Jewish tribes in the Sirat Rasul Allah and the Ahadith are responsible for the underlying anti-semitism in Islam. Interestingly the so called Constitution of Medina has no mention of the main Jewish tribes in Muslim tradition - Banu Nadir, Banu Qaynuqa and the Banu Qurayza, and finds no place in Jewish tradition. The Constitution required the 'signatories' to acknowledge the prophet Hood of Muhammad. It would have been very unlikely that the Jewish tribes would have been able to accept this. It is very unlikely that the Constitution is authentic.

[@doyouknoworjustbelieve6694]

Medina is an Arabic word. If it sound like a Hebrew word, it’s because the two languages share the same root, not because the Jews called it Medina.

[@jawedismail7349]

Islam is as old as Humanity All the prophets including Abraham and his children including Isaac and Jacob as well as Moses and Jesus taught Islam and practiced it Israelites in their early period also practiced Islam then because of one reason or other started to call themselves as Jews! This will all become clear when we all go back to our creator and He decides between our selves

[@dylanx9327]

3:50 - Arabs is NOT ethnicity!! .... Arabs means "people of the desert" ... people of diverse ethnicity, nations, and religions!!!!....Term usually implies people who had settled in one place.. If they move around then they are called Bedouins or nomadic Arabs...

[@Jfry69]

no its an ethnicity dumbass

[@anamina8679]

Dont read again

[@kakabawani4212]

Prophet Mohammed was not following his own desire .But Allah SWT commanded him to have dialogue with Jews and Christian if they follow the true teaching of Qu"ran .HASAEM (ALLAH) IS ONE and we all should worship him alone some of them did accept Islam but Allah mention in Qu"ran that bani Israel always have one righteous group who knew Qu"ran was true( teaching of Allah) .Note after roman expel Jews and christian they went to mecca and other middle east country.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Thanks for your contribution.

[@cima5878]

What jews were in Makkah? Quraish was very posseive over Makkah! Where is this proof of this? And Arabs didn't consider the jews to be Arabs Arabs claim their descendants from 2 ppl! The rabbi is clearly lying 🤣 but you could make the argument thst Jewish isn't a religion or ethnicity but a culture.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Not a Rabbi, not lying, but somehow I don't think either will make a difference to you.

[@cima5878]

@@HenryAbramsonPhD You are definitely lying! Bring the proof that hews were in Makkah?

[@chanchannoi1135]

@@cima5878 The neighbor of the Prophet Muhammad in mekkah was a Jew

[@cima5878]

@@chanchannoi1135 I don't think so buddy boy...The jews were on the outskirts of madinah not Makkah.

[@user-kw6dq8ub4g]

The Arabs and the children of Israel are Semitic peoples whose ancestor is Abraham, so they are relatively superior to humanity because they are descendants of the prophets, including Ishmael, Muhammad, Jesus, Christ, and Joseph, and all of them are prophets. God sanctifies the descendants of Abraham and loves them more than humans.

[@ronahijau3749]

Warraqah bin Naufal,kadjjah's uncle(Muhammad first wife)was jewis christian who teach Muhammad about the torah and the gospel on that time.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Thanks for your comment.

[@saimtanweer5720]

He died way before , he was a Arab Christian who himself just recently became Christian and read only the gospel , but the quran came in period of 23 years of period and in question and answer form many a times Do you think any body would have taken him seriously if he was taught by waraka , her wife khadiza died because of that hardship of no food and shelter , and she was the most wealthiest woman of Mecca but she was denied entry in Mecca and her trade for months before her death Because her husband was calling people to worship of one God

[@salmarahman8989]

@rona hijau, Warraqah Bin Naufil was a Jew and a Christian at the same time!😂

[@samgoldberg7494]

Are you a Zionist?

[@TopRankVintage]

The Jews of Arabia weren't JUST Jews who became arabized, tons of conversions happened. In fact, saffiya bint huyay, the Jewish wife of the prophet Muhammad was someone who her grandfather was alsamau'al ibn harith, who was a Yemeni who's tribe converted to Judaism and moved to the northern Arabian Peninsula