(540) Rake Open Medeco Locks? YES!

[@Riyame]

Hi Bill. These Medeco cam locks are driverless. They just have bottom pins and the springs. The only thing that keeps them from turning is the sidebar. But they have special pins. Instead of a sidebar groove they only have a small hole for the sidebar finger to go into. So you have to lift the pin to the right height AND rotate them at the same time. There are also false holes that are only partially deep.

[@Riyame]

bosnianbill Gutshots can be found here if you are interested. keypicking.com/viewtopic.php?p=47009#p47009

[@andreaboulian741]

Thank you, I've always wondered about this!

[@rfi-cryptolab4251]

I bought a 4 pin Medeco pay phone lock years ago and to my surprise it raked open very quickly. Somehow the chisel pins just set themselves. Raking didn't work against a 5 pin Medeco mortise lock I own.

[@kemo3432]

cool man. a very straightforward example that demonstrates how these locks operate.

[@user-rw3qq2sr1z]

I noticed we have a filing cabinet with a "Medeco" cylinder lock that looks like that at work. Now i'm curious if I can rake it ;-)

[@EqualsThreeable]

Luckily the Medeco locks we have at work are 4 and 5 pins and the screw type. The lock would have to be picked/raked many times to fully unscrew the lock. On top of that there’s three locks just to open the panel door.

[@EaglePicking]

Grabs pickaxe and destroys panel.

[@waynewinton]

Just to be clear this was a factory lock (I am Tri County Locksmith Service). With a factory tag. No custom pinning no funny business. This is why I send these lock out.... I want to see what they’re made of in the real world agenst the best lock pickers in the world. This is also why I Do Not recommend Medeco locks for real high security applications at this time. ASSA and BiLock all the way. Nice pick by the way Bill ! Also note that this Medeco and BiLock have similar operational mechanics in common. The side bar engages the pins the same way on both locks, with false gates and proper holes for the sidebar to fall in to. The difference is the Medeco relies on the "lift and rotate" function that brought them so much success in the past (the 80s). The BiLock relies on two separate sets of pins and two separate sidebars falling into place at the same time. This in my opinion makes the BiLock more secure as it would have 10-12 pins needing to be aligned to a shear line at the same time as opposed to only 3 from the Medeco. Another side note: I sent Bill (you) the newest version of BiLock as well with the added floating center pin. Notice: there is no picking video of that lock yet....... I bet you (Bill) will eventually get it but I doubt it will be a 5 minute raking video.

[@64akon]

Wayne Winton the best is Abloy

[@francoistacchini4574]

Wayne Winton 👍

[@ken_9359]

I new locksmith student raked one of these locks where the plug came out about 2/3's of the way. The locksmith teacher was surprised because he didn't think it could be picked/raked.

[@gamehunter420]

Looks like a great first medeco to practice SPP on??

[@ericday604]

Man.....I'm so tempted to say that I can hardly believe that's possible. But I guess with only 3 pins eventually your gonna hit the right combination. Still that's just nuts! Nice job Bill!

[@Vinlaell]

Doesn't look like these pins go up and down and make a sheer line they just turn for the sidebar

[@ddhcell]

OK you inspire me to try some Medeco locks here in the shop. Out of 3 I got 2 so far. Neither took very long since I already had the Sparrow rake you used. This is awesome!! Thanks.Shortest time on a 5 pin has been 27 seconds. I have done the 2 many times each. The 3rd one is a tough one.

[@ddhcell]

I am now into the dozens. I still have a few stuburn ones here. Thanks a bunch Bill.

[@kevenquinlan]

Nice. It IS only 3 pins and 2 looked perpendicular but at least it's possible. Med's are on my list. For the life of me, I can't seem to use TOK wrenches. I only pick SFIC's but they never seem to grab so they slide out mostly- but I only pick them attached to things and never in a vise, so???

[@dizy3513]

Isnt it a fun thing to see biaxial symbol on that commercial 72S, i mean no driver pins but they are still persistent on letting you know hey this lock just needs the pins rotated.... Bill have you ever tried a longer medeco 6-7 pin 72S? Also what are your thoughts on using the "medecoder" with no gutting i would be interested to see if those are or are not the "ARX" pins, standard, security pins... Thanks

[@JMLockpicking]

Neat...I wonder if that is the same lock they had on pay phones, back in the day.

[@stephenarling1667]

Looks like it. Older yet were the Bell System warded locks.

[@TheQwikset]

Where can i get the top of the keyway tension wrenches you use. The ones i have dont fit that snug

[@bosnianbill]

Check the description for links or visit the web page for dealers (and discount codes). TOK wrenches are available from Multipick, Sparrows, UKBumpKeys, Southord and Peterson. Pretty much everyone.

[@NicholasAarons]

bosnianbillFantastic Video Bill as I said when you got this lock and did the video I have got a very Similar one to yours that is a cash register lock and it is spring-loaded they are very Cool Locks. Keep up the great work Bill. :D N.

[@Stylezsnyc]

I plan on storing two motorcycles in a indoor self storage unit. What lock(s) would you highly recommend to secure unit with?

[@bosnianbill]

Abloy disc detainers, Mul-T-Lock MT5+, or Medecos.

[@Stylezsnyc]

Thank you for that information. What do you think about the Abus 20/70 disc ?

[@Gooobzilla]

Looks like the lock I have in a pop machine that was given to me. Looks like I have a fun project to try

[@romeoat42able]

question bill what model is that lock?

[@romeoat42able]

is a 64 s lock still 3 pin lock?

[@mohdasad6788]

Where your shop

[@jeffmoss26]

Nice. I have a Medeco biaxial cam lock sitting on my bench.

[@TheEZOOD]

wow never thought medico would be that easy. looks like abloy is the way to go if you want security.

[@stephenarling1667]

Abloy is pickable too. I have done it on payphones at my work a few decades ago.

[@pattrass7692]

You read open in 30 seconds all about medeco locks. You can bypass the sidebar with a paperclip and bump and medeco pre December 2007.

[@jobustify]

I know you have unlimited intro animations, but a trip down the Gardiner? How??

[@jakephelps4924]

i read somewhere that some medeco locks can be bumped open. it would make for an interesting video if you can pull that off.

[@bravo_the_broken4003]

We use a very similar medico lock on our vending machines at work so when we lose the keys for one I take them open and swap the lock out. I never have any luck with the triple peak but the sparrows worm rake works wonders. If you want I have a lock with no key that I've raked open a dozen or so times

[@deltakilo317]

Bill great video, I know the Sparrow is a little on the thick side, would a thinner Bogota possibly help get the angles on the pins better when rotating the pick in the keyway?

[@onithius]

+mresurm. Do you have another link got a 404 on the one you just posted.

[@HungryGuyStories]

I love your videos and I just subscribed. Next, can you pick/rake/bump a regular Medeco deadbolt lock?

[@waddac2]

Looking good again Bill mate, great video buddy

[@NorsemanLockpicker]

That is cool! Another great video Bill. I got to try that some day..

[@NorsemanLockpicker]

Hehe. No.. That would not be any fun ;o)

[@CptSpears007]

I can hear a 3D printer going

[@emanonevahisey5841]

Just cash registers? Oh, so if it is on a cash box it's fair game? Just kidding :-) Great picking as always.

[@Riyame]

This is the standard medeco cam lock. They are used in vending machine locks, desk locks, condom machine locks :P , even some padlocks.

[@1984revision]

Rake pick + Milwaukee power saw = No problem.

[@bjmulli]

Nice one bill.

[@NonamePicks]

Great Video!

[@frankt2767]

Try that with 6 pins - not happening

[@jerrywelch1870]

great job

[@armored5082]

i subbed ages ago on my other acount was really confused why it was notappearing on this one lol subbed now though

[@armored5082]

not appearing

[@mebobbygillis]

Fantastic

[@coplock6689]

cool

[@anthonyleedickinson3491]

Lol stop stroking it will you.

[@bjmulli]

Nice one bill.

[@brewcitypicker7744]

Now I gotta try raking a 5 pin'r... that's gonna be a looooooong video