Great to have options. At the ~600 pricepoint I might personally take the Polygon Xtrada 5 - no dropper, 2x10 deore, tektro hydraulics. But for a beginner the ability to roll this off the rack - and roll it back in to return if they don't enjoy their first couple rides - is huge. A complete XC trail-worthy build for the price of a Marlin frameset is hard to look down on.
@robthesasquatch64828 ай бұрын
anyone i run into moving away from the big box bikes, i try to point to polygon. i've owned the xtrada 7 and T7 and my god. the smiles per miles factor on top of the kit for the money is insane
@MrThejunkman7 ай бұрын
Sadly, I find people tend to enjoy the downhill part of biking a lot more than the climbing, and XC bikes just don’t feel as plush when getting to some crazy speeds on a descent. The problem is getting a nice trail bike at this price range.
@robthesasquatch64827 ай бұрын
@@MrThejunkman there really isn't one. Unless you take something like this and throw a beefy fork on it. Then you're trail ish at around 800 bucks. But starting with a bike in this price range, you're gonna chase weak points building it. Upgrade the fork? Tires buck you. New tires? Brakes don't stop them properly. Can confirm you can do some insane ish on a polygon xtrada 7 tho. The 120mm xcr air isn't bad. And it takes about 5 minutes to swap it out for a 140mm rs recon
@molybdnum7 ай бұрын
@@MrThejunkman the Poseidon Norton is probably the closest you'll get unless polygon runs crazy sales on the T6-T7
@MrThejunkman7 ай бұрын
@@molybdnum Except I’m pretty certain the XCM on there is a coil fork. With its sale price, it’s pretty nice -but I hate brands that pull that “sale” price trick. They know the bike is actually only worth $700 -not 1000. The MTB market is still nuts. They all need to bring prices down
@dknight2118 ай бұрын
Saw this in the store yesterday while looking for an Ozark Trail G.1 Explorer. The paint on this bike look really good.
@Bengy228 ай бұрын
I love my axum but honestly feel schwinn is missing the mark on this one. The bike market isnt crazy like before. $550 is just too much for a bike when everything on the bike is noname except the drive train. Take the Canyon grand 5, $50 more and you get a 12 speed deore setup, mt200 hydros, schwalbe tires, suntour fork, other name brand parts. Only thing is no dropper
@lukem72038 ай бұрын
Isn't the canyon grand 5 a 27.5" bike?
@aaronbehindbars8 ай бұрын
@@lukem7203Just on XS and S sizes. M and larger is 29"
@MrStingraybernard8 ай бұрын
@@lukem7203rather have 27.5
@Zaxaphone8 ай бұрын
And you can commonly find the grand canyon for sale very rarely for 400 and commonly at 500 dollars.
@dominiicp8 ай бұрын
Okay I'm going to research that baby you mention.
@coryharrell67268 ай бұрын
The new Ozark Trail Ridge revision has added external routing points that can be used, but still has the full internal routing. It would have been cool to see Schwinn do something similar on this bike.
@masoncheung7158 ай бұрын
Any idea when it will be released to the market?
@travr68 ай бұрын
I would still go for the Ozark over this for the price difference. I'm upgrading most of it anyways.
@danemoreno888 ай бұрын
@@masoncheung715 it already is I have one of the updated versions in a large
@chrisrice40068 ай бұрын
I really like the lines on that frame. Can't wait for the geometry numbers. Thanks for the video
@chrisrice40068 ай бұрын
I did a little bit of digging. Not sure how accurate this information is but 67 degree head tube and weighing in just over 36 lbs. Anyone feel free to correct me on this.
@johnmills8375 ай бұрын
Acolyte works flawlessly with the Advent X cassette and shifter. Acolyte has the same pull ratio as Shimano 9-11 speed derailleurs
@AndresGonzalez-bg8uk8 ай бұрын
I saw this at one of the Walmarts locally and thought “wait, Kev usually does a video before I see these new models!”
@jasonroper71548 ай бұрын
A lot of companies are switching back to external routing which is awesome, Kona process 134 has external routing except dropper and I’m loving it
@ricksantana10168 ай бұрын
I think a set of race face pedals, definitely fox 34 forks and a fizik saddle would make this a beast of a bike…
@blakekennard77005 ай бұрын
The Axum is a little more future proof, so would be worth it for me. And the 2024 Axum has a much shorter stand over height which is a huge win for riders that like to be dynamic on their bike
@ekims_echoes8 ай бұрын
This is continued improvement. It's like they're trying to at least keep up with the Ozark Trail. I'm not in the market for another budget MTB, but if I was this would certainly be a contender. I do really hate that Schwinn suspension fork. I hated it on the old Axum and I hated it on the Taff Comp. I would have like to see that same Suntour we see on the Ozark Trail and pretty much every entry level hardtail sold by bike shop brands. I'm perfectly happy with external cable routing and have always found it to be a bit of a gimmick (excepting dropper cables) and more trouble/unnecessary expense than it's worth.
@robthesasquatch64828 ай бұрын
manual lock schwinn branded fork> XCT non locking fork. though neither can actually use their claimed travel range
@bamwaldrip8 ай бұрын
I am loving seeing bike shop quality finally at Walmart it's insane to see Sr forks on bikes and I hope this becomes the standard fully
@topdsm01388 ай бұрын
I've had and upgraded my Axum DP for almost 3yrs. Never had one issue from it. And love the look of confusion when others see "It's a Schwinn, not a LBS"😅
@JaredUnashamed8 ай бұрын
I love the color. Went to WalMart today for lunch and saw a clearance rack outside with a few bikes on it. Nothing I wanted but I'll keep my eye out for these. I'll say it again, you're a bad influence sir!
@JoshuaMarcAragon8 ай бұрын
I have used the Acolyte drivetrain in the past. It works excellent. Kev, wondering if you turned the clutch on though if it was making noise. You have to turn that bolt to the right until the top lever clicks in place.
@michaellowery9288 ай бұрын
Simply BEAUTIFUL!
@jered21778 ай бұрын
I like the external routing
@jrockthecasbah8 ай бұрын
Makes dealing w hydraulic brakes so much easier.
@travr68 ай бұрын
I do not. Would be better if it came with BOTH external and internal routing so we could choose.
@daniellarson30688 ай бұрын
It does seem more practical.
@nc38268 ай бұрын
Want to like it for all the above practical reasons.... But it just too messy and ugly at this price point.
@dragonflygenetics4208 ай бұрын
Ebay has a Magnetic string that you push through the frame tube for like 7 8 dollars.
@rubendevereaux60868 ай бұрын
I was waiting for this one too. I was thinking, if that bike is $548, and you upgrade to hydraulic brakes, and a better fork, that's about as much as a polygon. I'd go with the polygon personally. Good looking bike, live your channel
@robthesasquatch64828 ай бұрын
the xtrada 7 is about the best bang for buck xc hardtail on the planet. bar none
@TheLifeOfJavi8 ай бұрын
Funny you post this today. Just last night I was wondering a recently remodeled Walmart and saw a new Axum Sport in quite the eye catching paint.
@TivonSanders8 ай бұрын
Great review as always Kev. Wouldn't have to do much to make that bike more capable. Great job, Schwinn. Now let's see how you do with a full suspension. Bring back the S29 and Ember. And make them GOOD.
@Ultimaniacx48 ай бұрын
I thought the external cable routing was great on my Axum DP until I added a motor and battery to it. The little cable channels on the downtube get in the way of the battery mount. I managed to secure it but the bumps sort of deform the mount so the battery is a tight fit when sliding in.
@KevCentral8 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@romanearly75165 ай бұрын
I have this 🚲 no more than 7 weeks ago and my drop post seat isn't working other than this bike is all good 👍🌟♥️🏆🏆💯
@desertmtb50288 ай бұрын
Very nice! But I would have preferred the external cable routing to be underneath the downtube.
@No_ReGretzky998 ай бұрын
I got the Ozark trail vibe it's the 27 1/2 wheel size however I just had that to hold me over until I got my taxes I got my taxes last Wednesday and found a trek Roscoe 8 for 600 bucks in mint condition
@RichardVanMeter-r5p27 күн бұрын
That's an incredible by on a mint condition Roscoe 6
@shane0clock7165 ай бұрын
Every review I've seen with an acolyte in it the reviewer complained about it being noisey or dropping chains. Out of the box mine came with the clutch turned off and you need an allen key to turn it on. I have to wonder how many people didn't do that lol.
@northwestmountainbikeaddic68748 ай бұрын
Miss my old Axum ! Now I ride a Giant Full Sus and love it , but the axum was a fun bike ride
@DrLATEBEER8 ай бұрын
The Specliazed Status (frame and rear shock only) can be found for $419 right now. Would love to see a budget build on that
@johndef50758 ай бұрын
30-46 is a nice low gear. I dont mind external routing but its kinda messy on that bike. I would like to ride this just to see what its like. Its seems way better than the beginner mtbs from 34 years ago when I started riding.
@THEGARNERCOLLECTIVE8 ай бұрын
Hi i think it would look better if the cables where hidden tight underneath the frame. the frame does look nice but it does seem small with the triangle not wide but narrow. about the cardboard in the wheels some companies do jobs cycling where you get banners and advertise on your bike when riding. so example you can get a disk and advertise example a company as you ride normally. i seen it on sites when looking around but its in US and A country i see it for.
@komoonkh8 ай бұрын
You can easily tighten the clutch on acolyte, if you need to. I would upgrade the fork and brakes and there you go.
@01FozzyS8 ай бұрын
That's a surprisingly good looking bike,Kev! And with a dropper too plus Jagwire cabling.
@Mike-or8ct8 ай бұрын
The microshift acolyte is a great upgrade. I put it on my axum diy ebike(cyc photon) and have a couple hundred miles on it without issue.
@tenza75455 ай бұрын
I went to a different Walmart than my local one. They had 3 of these. None of the dropper posts worked. I was thinking of going back and seeing if I can get a good deal for that reason.
@scottersandman64088 ай бұрын
when i first saw this bike at wally world, i thought it was an AL Comp. my bad. but I converted my 27.5 AL Comp into a one by with an advent x for about what this new one costs....
@greg00638 ай бұрын
I saw this yesterday in Waly World. It caught my eye and looked good. So weird you post this today.
@EBikeBuilder_8 ай бұрын
It would be really interesting to see the old Axum(s) compared to the new, especially a side view!! they have a cool video on the Walmart page where they talk about the different models of the new Axums! Very cool, it seems like the Axum is here to stay. However- LOTS of differences from my BLACK / GOLD SPARKLE AXUM!! I don't know if I could fit a 72V battery on that new Axum frame!! The chainstays and the toptube are soo low! Less room for a battery on that Comp X. I got the 228 sale on the black Axum, Man I love that bike. Never pulled the trigger buying anything faster in my life Lol. Got it going almost 46mph. Looking forward to seeing more of these new Axums. Thanks Kev!!
@megashovelmanam15178 ай бұрын
It seems like there are so many variable parts when it comes to Mongoose and Schwinn, depending on the type, those balloon 🎈 tires might possibly pop before the tread is lower.
@politan838 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on how a bike like this compares to a more mid-range hardtail like the Specialized Fuse.
@KO-sx9uy8 ай бұрын
Its a big upgrade but the Polygon Xtrada 5 29" comes with hydraulic brakes, 2x10 deore drivetrain and thru axles for $600.
@harrygrimley43528 ай бұрын
Very nice. Thanks for sharing this with us. Good to see you on trails. 😊
@Accuracy1588 ай бұрын
So OG Axum $400 + $100 for dropper post inclusion + $48 dollars and we get a nicer derailleur. $100 used to be pretty hard to beat for a dropper but now with the way the bike industry is you can find that sale on a Race Face or such.
@robthesasquatch64828 ай бұрын
as a hardcore axum fan, i like it. the slight price up over the dp is worth it for the improved drive train imo. but thats the only real upgrade. from the over sized tires to the lack luster brakes, its still the axum we know and love :D its even the same dropper post. i am still trying to figure out why the walmart standard large got smaller. i think kent started it, but still. 18 is, imo, a M/L
@TheBikeChannelwithMongooseJake8 ай бұрын
Started watching this, only 22 seconds after upload, lol!
@KevCentral8 ай бұрын
Bonus points 👍🏻
@boogierandy75478 ай бұрын
glad youre back to mtn bike videos!
@berserkeraribal86858 ай бұрын
here in the philippines that frame is rebrand to speedone defender v2 enduro frame.
@Randy-ry9ss8 ай бұрын
Available in two sizes on the website..........Sweet looking ride!
@edgarsmittenheighnjenkson92268 ай бұрын
Good looking frame, kind of reminds me of a Diamondback.
@scottshred72716 күн бұрын
The dropper on the axium that I got a Walmart was not assembled properly it was stuck in down position my guess is somebody heavy sat and jammed it in. I asked the store manager for a discount on the bike and he said ok and came back with this price of 306.88 I saved $241.13 I left very happy I used that savings for Pedals , hydraulic brakes and fox fork with 140 mm travel I have other bike store bikes but this hard tail rides as good or better also I got the rims to go tubeless the bike lost 3.8 pounds and performance is excellent .I then donated to local highschool MTB team
@OgDj20248 ай бұрын
Good review and very nice bike, but would’ve been nice to get a demonstration of the “dropper post.“ I just saw this bike in Walmart the other day and I’m very interested in getting one RESPECT! ✊🏾
@nc38268 ай бұрын
Close, but no cigar.... Really needs hydraulic brakes and/or a dual routing options. Even if it required a slightly higher price point. (FWIW I could think about a half a dozen ways to make the external routing neater)
@dragonflygenetics4204 ай бұрын
Hope to see you upgrade this bike soon!!!!🤙🏽👍🏾💯
@bibasik78 ай бұрын
I saw a Schwinn Axum Comp (non-X) at Waknart in person a few days ago!
@bibasik78 ай бұрын
I made a stupid typo and I can't edit it because that would take away the heart
@seanconnolly21796 ай бұрын
@@bibasik7I knew a guy who says he visited walmark lol
@virginiascurti50368 ай бұрын
Need to test these on something other than an XC trail.
@bigtrucklittlerv79698 ай бұрын
Why? That's what this bike is for.
@bikdav8 ай бұрын
This looks like a potential candidate. It looks quite upgradable as parts wear out.
@alienschmaliens8 ай бұрын
Looks pretty decent! Thanks for sharing.
@jamesweldon81188 ай бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this video!!
@nommchompsky8 ай бұрын
At this point what is there left to ask for? Thru axles?
@th3welfarewarrior8 ай бұрын
This thing is rad for the price. Between it, and the affordable upgrade parts, I hope they sell a lot of them.
@thecrookedcyclist38638 ай бұрын
That's the first Schwinn that I've ever seen that I would genuinely recommend to a beginner mountain biker
@robthesasquatch64828 ай бұрын
you know we've had the axum and axum dp since 2020 right?
@Apeattacksurvivor4 ай бұрын
I bought it about a month ago I love it
@corythegreat3237 ай бұрын
Would you put this bike ahead of the ozark trail ridge Kev?
@johnmills8375 ай бұрын
Yes, not much though.
@keithchristner45228 ай бұрын
Not bad, but I really feel like manufacturers need to start to truly future proof these frames by adding 12x148 rear axle spacing. I feel like it's easier, and dare I say less expensive, to find wheelset upgrades with the 12x148 axles these days.
@scrooge19138 ай бұрын
Technically Microshift doesn't claim that acolyte has a clutch but it does the job.
@LebronPhoto18 ай бұрын
I think they call it a spring lock, but it seems to have less play when locked than the microshift and even Shimano Deore clutch derailleurs seem to have.
@daddyshrek22958 ай бұрын
that's a beautiful frame
@gregnowak24928 ай бұрын
That frame looks really good, but the cable management looks terrible. Needs to be underneath the top tube perhaps? Just looks kind of odd. But the bike looks sharp for sure.
@metakheadfromthe89s8 ай бұрын
Ps the ozark trail ridge comes now with same rear derailleur but it's on a 9 speed I'm having issues getting it dialed in
@TivonSanders8 ай бұрын
What issues are you having?
@metakheadfromthe89s8 ай бұрын
@TivonSanders 9 just sometimes makes a chunking noise under load. I think it is because the microshift is a 8 speed deralier but it's what came stock on my ozark trail may upgrade to the advent
@TobyFloof8 ай бұрын
I subbed from your polygon review i love your reviews
@blurryface19756 ай бұрын
do you know the differences between the comp x and the axum dp? and i guess also the axom comp and axum sport models?
@dominiicp8 ай бұрын
I don't know anything about bikes but I like the old look better than this one. Are you able to say that this one is better or it's just a new look, like a refresh
@jmswilliams708 ай бұрын
what's the rear o.l.d.? finding 141 wheels or having to get a 148 hub wheel and then finding caps to convert to qr can get pricy
@drill_fiend10978 ай бұрын
Dropper post on a Walmart bike??? That's wild!
@brijeshchauhan8 ай бұрын
The question is, how does it compare to Axum DP? Worth the upgrade from Axum DP?
@KevCentral8 ай бұрын
If you already have an Axum DP I don’t see a reason to swap to this
@dominiicp8 ай бұрын
Hey that was my question!
@robthesasquatch64828 ай бұрын
@@KevCentral or a non dp. just grab an off the shelf dropper*
@bradolson1435 ай бұрын
Hi kev would you recommend this axum comp x or the mongoose switchback expert.
@GolfMotionAcademy7 ай бұрын
its good looking bike. how does it compare to a trek 6
@metakheadfromthe89s8 ай бұрын
This or tge ozark trail ridge v2? Mine came with microshift clutched rear derailleur
@DD-xx8wh8 ай бұрын
Yay Walmart! great offering how about some ebike upgrades too!
@Wireman1348 ай бұрын
Rear drop outs are? 141mm?
@bigtrucklittlerv79698 ай бұрын
Wait for it....
@END69874 ай бұрын
does the Axum Comp X and the Axum Comp have the same frame?
@KeoOutdoors8 ай бұрын
I would prefer is all external.
@ashrobberrett68588 ай бұрын
I like exterior routings. Easier. Why is internal so important?
@TivonSanders8 ай бұрын
It's just that they're quieter and gives a cleaner look for the bike. Also there's no risk of any cables rubbing against the paint, which can remove it pretty quickly.
@LebronPhoto18 ай бұрын
Add an air fork, MT200 brakes and better pedals and you have a bike better than a similarly priced Trek Marlin. They don’t even have a tapered head tube.
@cebuanostud8 ай бұрын
Walmart really showing us some good stuff this year aye.😁
@jonesy30024 ай бұрын
This or the ozark trail ridge, if both were 400 bucks. Which one would you choose at the same price ?
@KevCentral4 ай бұрын
For me, If both were the same price I’d take the Comp X so I wouldn’t have to source a dropper
@jonesy30024 ай бұрын
@@KevCentral thanks for answering. I watched your video on the giodarno intrepid 29. Would you go with that or the ozark trail ridge. I have a Walmart that has all three bikes there. The ridge, intrepid, comp X and looking to get one of the three. I’m new to the sport but had a Bmx background. First to last choice ?
@davegravitt2108 ай бұрын
Friggn crap! Microshift! The 10 speed setup that come on my new GT Zaskar FS crapped out in a week and a half! The clutch would click on when i had it off during a ride. Btw. I broke the Verb Sport I had. GT sent me the Zaskar for warranty. 😊 It's a tank! Kev. I want your 2017 Mongoose Salvo frame?¿?? I miss my Verb! Same frame!. 😢
@jacklo3258 ай бұрын
Is this still using the cup and cone BB? Sure looks like it. The OG axum tires were Chao Yang too. And I don't see the reason to run the shifter cable internally, for like 2 feet. I must say, the price point is getting kinda high. I am in no rush to get this one. I think for a few hundreds more, I rather get a FS from other companies like polygon or giant...
@KevCentral8 ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting
@robthesasquatch64828 ай бұрын
for a few hundred more, you might get the D5 on sale? i wouldnt. not when you can get the xtrada 7 around a thousand usd on any given week.
@dirtytiger8 ай бұрын
Great review, this bike seems promising. Slightly off topic: What shoes are you wearing?
@KevCentral8 ай бұрын
Those are some cheap And1 shoes I got at Walmart a while back. It turns out they make great MTB shoes
@jonlavigne32708 ай бұрын
Would buy.
@hemiboy39235 ай бұрын
So I heard you say there's many Bikes to come so should I buy this one if I want the top of the line. Axum comp bike or wait?
@KevCentral5 ай бұрын
There aren’t any other Axum bikes I’m aware of if that helps
@hemiboy39235 ай бұрын
@KevCentral thank you I will go ahead and get the comp x
@politan838 ай бұрын
I feel like we are getting very close to Walmart offering a sub 1K hardtail with all modern standards.
@KevCentral8 ай бұрын
Maybe, but I hope they don’t venture that far up the price range
@24blade007248 ай бұрын
I really like the styling and the color of the bike, but that external cable routing like that, totally ruins the look.
@jeffbryda57898 ай бұрын
Did i miss how many speeds this is?
@KevCentral8 ай бұрын
8
@jeffbryda57898 ай бұрын
@KevCentral that's one of my disappointments, wishes these bikes could come with 10, but always something. Is that front sprocket a narrow wide design?
@booklover22858 ай бұрын
Will you be reviewing the sport?
@KevCentral8 ай бұрын
Yep
@fantomx118 ай бұрын
I routed internal hydraulic brake lines with nothing but some thread, a shop-vac, and some old brake cable w/ electrical tape. There's no reason it should require a trip to a bike shop.
@KevCentral8 ай бұрын
The time it takes a novice to do it the first time they will lose fluid which will then require adding and bleeding the lines
@fantomx118 ай бұрын
@@KevCentral that's a good point. I did bleed the lines. Whether that was necessary is unknown. I'd never even installed hydraulic brakes before, but it was something I knew I was going to do, so I had a bleed kit and fluid on hand ready to go.
@daniellarson30688 ай бұрын
It may be harder for critics to scoff at Big Box bikes these days.
@OgDj20247 ай бұрын
How can the seat be changed on this bike
@KevCentral7 ай бұрын
Easy. Just unbolt the old seat at the rails and put on a new one
@OgDj20246 ай бұрын
@@KevCentral Thank you! Also, I bought this bike and it does not have a chain guard. Is that a problem with the chain droping off, and pants legs getting cought in the the chain? Can a chain be put on this bike?
@NELSONG128 ай бұрын
Walmart is killing it with all these great, affordable, capable bikes.
@gulfcitynd8 ай бұрын
It looks good will i be buying it no my polygon is fine
@deviantgaming97268 ай бұрын
Can relate. I upgraded from the old axum dp to an xtrada 7
@ruelsmith6 ай бұрын
Better fork, hydraulic brakes, and a better crank/BB and this is a great bike. Its about $100 for this dropper, so if you added that to the $400 bikes, you're in the same ballpark. That fork is atrocious. Would rather have an XCT30.