$589!? RM Williams should be embarrassed

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Rose Anvil

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@RoseAnvil
@RoseAnvil 2 ай бұрын
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@NotRorygreen
@NotRorygreen 2 ай бұрын
Hey man, they’re only $600 Aud. That’s like $350 ish US isn’t it?
@NotRorygreen
@NotRorygreen 2 ай бұрын
Just looked into it. It’s tariffs you guys put on our companies.
@momsberettas9576
@momsberettas9576 2 ай бұрын
If they bought your harness they didn't steal it. Do they give credit to Nike or Adidas for the shoes they are wearing?
@Entertainment-
@Entertainment- 2 ай бұрын
The one you bought before was the Yearling Leather version, RMW has some lower quality stuff like the one in the video, but they still make great leather products if you know what to look for. Their Kangaroo Leather range for example are really great.
@marcsars508
@marcsars508 2 ай бұрын
Could you do JM WESTON. a legendary French shoe company
@Antechynus
@Antechynus 2 ай бұрын
35 years ago, i was mustering cattle out Mt Isa way... i was caught in a fire and badly burnt my legs, my jeans and boots burnt away except that the leather soles didnt. This protected the bottoms of my feet (only bit of my legs that didnt end up bbq'd). This meant i could learn to walk again properly... so a big thumbs up to old school RMs.
@matthewcullen1298
@matthewcullen1298 2 ай бұрын
Gees mate. I hope your ok now. That's a horrendous thing to go through
@Antechynus
@Antechynus 2 ай бұрын
@matthewcullen1298 cheers mate, yeah, was a tough go for a bit... but tried never to let it stop me. Have a good one bud 👍
@ResponsibleID1OT
@ResponsibleID1OT 2 ай бұрын
the new ones have the leather sole aswell the youtuber just didnt get the one with a leather sole even though theyre the same price he bought the comfort one, where they still sell the regular craftsman on the rm williams site
@stuarttaplin8567
@stuarttaplin8567 2 ай бұрын
Like most quality goods, and brand names from the past, when they are purchased by a group, solely motivated by profit, at the expense of quality, you are bound to buy expensive crap. Remember, you can't make a silk purse, out of a sows ear. Australian translation: You can't make strawberry jam, out of pig shit!
@cianmoriarty7345
@cianmoriarty7345 2 ай бұрын
Ouch
@wilfredwoodhouse8505
@wilfredwoodhouse8505 2 ай бұрын
Used to work as a cobbler repairing these, they've been in decline for 10 years getting worse and worse, the leather doesn't hold up doing any sort of work outside of needing to look nice (no matter the boot), I know people who bought a pair 30 years ago who've abused the crap out of them for that long and new ones maybe lasting a few months. Love from Australia and keep up the good work
@kidoctane
@kidoctane 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for confirming my suspicions. I have one pair (albeit in suede) that are near 40 years old and still going strong, but only worn occasionally. My dailys," Craftsmen" in black wear out in ever shortening periods. The leather cracks and splits in just a few years.....and I look after them
@VoiD1x
@VoiD1x 2 ай бұрын
Agreed my uncles 25 year old pair, he’s been working in them for years, still held up perfect. Mine have busted in 3 years.
@E9819_
@E9819_ 2 ай бұрын
The Craftsmen is a dress boot, the Gardner is a work boot. I have a pair of Gardner’s that I got 3 years ago, given them a pretty rough go and they’re still holding up.
@commentpotato_0
@commentpotato_0 2 ай бұрын
@wilfredwoodhouse8505 Thanks mate, really usefull information! Hhhm, interesting, that's something to ponder about. Greetings from Nordic countries 👍
@robwhite461
@robwhite461 2 ай бұрын
Just like Blundstone, I used to buy them up until the manufacturing left Tasmania, after that they just shite, the soles wear out a lot quicker, the sole separation on the sides, inersole material lasts only weeks, they are just a shit boot relying on past quality that dose not exist anymore, but the purchase price has continued to be in the premium range. I was that disappointed in my last pair, I emailed the company voicing my disappointment in a gentlemanly way, but was sent a reply basically telling me to tell someone who cares! Not even a acknowledgment that they would look into it. I switched to Rossi Endura, vastly superior boot 3 years of hard abuse and they still look like lasting for a while longer yet at least. I take care of my boots with regular cleaning and application of conditioner and dubbin, Not sure where the Rossi’s were made, but I’ll never buy another pair of Blundstone imposters again, I used to really like like them once, an Australian icon that’s become a shadow of its former reputation. Rossi make a boot similar to the RM Williams, off memory they are called the Kidman, if I want a flash pair of riding boots, that’s where my cash will be going.
@123klem
@123klem 2 ай бұрын
R.M Williams now solely exists to market and sell fully leather like boots to finance and realestate bros.
@SarmonOflynn
@SarmonOflynn 2 ай бұрын
Don't forget National Party politicians, so they can pretend they've done a day of work in their life out in the bush.
@rocnoir4233
@rocnoir4233 2 ай бұрын
@@SarmonOflynnThey blend in nicely with the brand new suede hat and alcoholism.
@SarmonOflynn
@SarmonOflynn 2 ай бұрын
@@rocnoir4233 and 4th marriages. Good, Christian, 4th marriages.
@kenny1034
@kenny1034 2 ай бұрын
​@@rocnoir4233the beetrooter 😅
@jigglypuff2562
@jigglypuff2562 2 ай бұрын
i bought a pair a while ago to fit into uni
@midway222
@midway222 2 ай бұрын
I'm Australian, I own a pair or RM Williams, I'm not the slightest bit offended your've called them out. The quality needs to be maintained!
@AmazingFeynman
@AmazingFeynman 2 ай бұрын
Paid $600 thinking they would last 10+ years because I'm a heavy user, walking at least 10k steps everyday. My RMs starting cracking and holes appeared in the toe box. These were unfixable and after a total lifetime of only 18 months, I had to throw them out! Granted, I did do the Spit to Manly walk in them which in hindsight was not a good idea. But still, I was expecting the utmost quality for $600. Waste of money. I will never buy RM Williams ever again. I liked the design and leather feel, quick to put on and works with any clothes. After recovering my losses, I will invest in a much better boot. Just haven't found one yet.
@davidrose2382
@davidrose2382 19 күн бұрын
35 dollars kmart boots😅
@TweedSuit
@TweedSuit 2 ай бұрын
You think our boots are bad, you should see our building quality 😂
@HIXTAR359
@HIXTAR359 2 ай бұрын
Those boots are non-compliant
@ShoeysAdventures
@ShoeysAdventures 2 ай бұрын
our cars were way worse
@peterfarrell520
@peterfarrell520 2 ай бұрын
or our bloody roads here in country victoria.
@nicholasgarnett-ly9nw
@nicholasgarnett-ly9nw 2 ай бұрын
😆👍
@oBaileyjacob
@oBaileyjacob 2 ай бұрын
@@ShoeysAdventures our cars are some of the best in the market even today? why do you think you still see 1990 falcons and commodores on the road everyday 35 years after coming off the production line?!?! Because they were built to last.
@Peter-e6b8g
@Peter-e6b8g 2 ай бұрын
As an older Aussie (70) and an owner of RM’s since I was a kid (still own 3 pairs between 25-15 yrs old, all in good condition) I’m glad you’re calling this out because it’s a grab for cash based on a superb brand reputation, rather than living up to or enhancing the brand by sticking with quality. I hope Hugh Jackman and other brand management pick up on this quickly, as nothing tanks a brand more than false value.
@djolemerc
@djolemerc 2 ай бұрын
He is just comparing two different type of soles and leathers. Not fair comparisons,I have mine for 3 years now worn almost every day,took them to Europe last year also waking up to 20 km a day,this sole that he cut off has sneaker like comfort
@youwebz
@youwebz 2 ай бұрын
I don’t think Jackman is involved any more.
@nephilimdj
@nephilimdj 2 ай бұрын
Brand was sold a few times over the last few years, after the worker nearly died. Its a shame
@matty_isthemotto
@matty_isthemotto 2 ай бұрын
We will still buy them regardless. Rather that than anything from America.
@maxgermasi3302
@maxgermasi3302 2 ай бұрын
The bigger their profit the more taxes they pay! And that pays for your pension So enjoy your great Aussie lifestyle and move on pal
@lgerback34
@lgerback34 2 ай бұрын
As an Australian, no hurt feelings here! I’ve always thought that RM Williams boots are for politicians and business wankers who want to cosplay as people who work with their hands.
@GordonPavilion
@GordonPavilion 2 ай бұрын
As a fellow Australian, I can only agree.
@StevenMilne-sm4fk
@StevenMilne-sm4fk 2 ай бұрын
ADF uses them now.
@CoolCoolYams
@CoolCoolYams 2 ай бұрын
Boomers and country cosplayers THE AUSSIE BATTLER (who drives a jeep)
@jimbokilo
@jimbokilo 2 ай бұрын
You NEVER see them condition the boots either. No clue. RMWs and North Face vest, wanker uniform.
@kidoctane
@kidoctane 2 ай бұрын
I agree with the comments from my fellow Australians However, I am also guilty as charged 😳- been wearing RMs since I was 21 (sadly 42 years ago), especially during my younger, inner city more misspent days. I have 4 pairs ATM, thou only two are on active duty.
@Inbal_Feuchtwanger
@Inbal_Feuchtwanger 2 ай бұрын
This is the content I come here for, companies like this need to be called out on cutting corners.
@vondahe
@vondahe 2 ай бұрын
They cut corners because their owner demand ever-growing profit margins and when the CEO says it’s not possible without sacrificing quality, they replace him with someone who thinks he can.
@Shilo-fc3xm
@Shilo-fc3xm 2 ай бұрын
RM Williams WAS an Aussie Icon. One of those companies that rose on the support of working class Australia over a century and turned around and effed them over. I and many like me would not purchase RM Williams products through principle and perhaps even spite, alone.
@nicholasgarnett-ly9nw
@nicholasgarnett-ly9nw 2 ай бұрын
Me too
@newj-ib1bn
@newj-ib1bn 2 ай бұрын
The wonders of private equity
@Shilo-fc3xm
@Shilo-fc3xm 2 ай бұрын
@@newj-ib1bn Not wrong.
@greensceneBirds
@greensceneBirds 2 ай бұрын
Blundstone are worse, they have a used by date on them now because the Poly soles fall apart. What can you buy these days.
@kestrel09
@kestrel09 2 ай бұрын
I bought a pair of Craftsman boots three years ago. Throughout I used the recommended leather conditioner. One boot developed cracks on the side of the toe a few inches back from the tip on the inside. A flex point. When I had them re-soled, they were nearly written off. The retailer said that it probably got wet and subsequent heating caused the cracking. They were bought as a long-term purchase and I'm very disappointed. I thought they were designed for riding horses, mine have barely been outdoors and still failed.
@maxrockatanksyOG
@maxrockatanksyOG 2 ай бұрын
R.M. Williams: _The essential wear for when a PM visits a country town, indigenous outpost or wants to put out the feels that he is an "everyday blue collar bloke"_
@q9920867
@q9920867 2 ай бұрын
Don't forget the akubra to go with the look.
@BWater-yq3jx
@BWater-yq3jx 2 ай бұрын
Or really, any member of the National Party. 😆
@TheRealMarxz
@TheRealMarxz 2 ай бұрын
were as if they really wanted to look like the average real rural worker they would be wearing Mongrel boots, Bisley Industrial fluro shirt and pants and some corporate branded boonie hat with a neck flap... working main roads in IT they used to kit us up with this sort of stuff for regional visits ... farkinhell did we get sh*t for coming in off the plane in all fresh and clean out of the bag kit while their kit was so red dirt and battered like they had just come off set from Mad Max Fury Road
@tivoaussie
@tivoaussie 2 ай бұрын
@@q9920867 Or the hi-vis vest, hard hat and safety glasses if it happens to be a factory.
@franny231123DMT
@franny231123DMT 2 ай бұрын
lolol true story , nice one
@Stridewise
@Stridewise 2 ай бұрын
As an Australian boot aficionado, of course this means war No I've been thinking for YEARS that Australia needs more options for welted footwear. But 'boots' and 'RM Williams' are interchangeable terms in Australia, the task would first be to convince people that non-RM Williams boots exist and to teach them why Goodyear welts are cool. It's on my list for world domination, convincing my homeland to buy other boot brands!
@misatobestgirl7230
@misatobestgirl7230 2 ай бұрын
Goodyear welts are like alien technology here. I bought a pair of cheap Thorogood work boots and people compliment me on them like they're luxury. Good quality lace ups just don't exist locally.
@TheCoreyism
@TheCoreyism 2 ай бұрын
I wish we had more affordable GYW boots available in Aus. It's a shame there isn't a convenient way to get Thursdays here
@stevenlippis5488
@stevenlippis5488 2 ай бұрын
Perhaps to boot aficionados, RM and boots are interchangeable. But the only people I've seen wearing them are doctors and politicians. I live in the outback. No one wears them. Even for dress events. They're essentially dress shoes for wealthy city people.
@jimwong4206
@jimwong4206 2 ай бұрын
Yeah agree with all the above comments. It's just such a shame for those who want to get into the shoe / boot world in Aus. I have mates that would ask me for recommendations, I used to say RM is good for Aussie made product, but now I probably need to direct them to the likes of Bridlen, CNES for the cost concious, or TLB for the mid level spenders, or the indos/Chinese for the handwelting nerds. Sigh. Doesn't affect me knowing that RM is shit now because I don't buy them, but it is a blow.
@rauri1077
@rauri1077 2 ай бұрын
As an Aussie, used to have two pairs of RM. Now just one. Felt the quality going down, their repair quality also poor; damaged my boots. So, I Got two pairs of Grant Stone and a Red Wing Iron ranger - quality is way better than RM.
@henkrpe3249
@henkrpe3249 2 ай бұрын
They used to be ~350 AUD (~250 USD) before they got bought out by Louis Vuitton. Big corporations ruin everything.
@Hitman-ds1ei
@Hitman-ds1ei 2 ай бұрын
Pretty sure it's owned by Tattarang a company belonging to Australian mining magnate Andrew 'twiggy' Forrest
@crazyg74
@crazyg74 2 ай бұрын
@@Hitman-ds1ei it is now and that is likely to be why quality is in decline.
@20cent
@20cent 2 ай бұрын
@@Hitman-ds1ei If you watched at least 2 minutes of this video before jumping to the comments section, you'd have learned and confirmed that it was the case, after being owned by LV, which set their first nail for their decline.
@nephilimdj
@nephilimdj 2 ай бұрын
Not really Louis Vuitton fault, they have spent like 1/2 a million after the old owners refused to address health and safety issues at the salisbury factory and a few people got injuried and one nearly died. most people interstate are out of the loop about the shit that went down at the factory.
@LSturboguy
@LSturboguy 2 ай бұрын
@@Hitman-ds1ei Tattarang took ownership in 2020 I never liked their boots and were over priced the factory was always going broke always in the news here in Adelaide
@robinaboy
@robinaboy 2 ай бұрын
I’ve worn RMs nearly every day for 20 years. The last pair I bought was about 2016 and they’ve held up remarkably well. Which I’d expect for the $600 price tag. Mine have the “oil proof sole” which is synthetic and amazingly it has stayed intact despite being in rain, hot concrete, dust, sand, mud etc. The elastic is still tight and stitching is excellent. Having watched this review, I think I might’ve got a pre-2014 model. I think I’ll try Rossi boots next and see if Gina has instilled god craftsmanship and quality materials to that company.
@josematurana-ohgee
@josematurana-ohgee 2 ай бұрын
Not surprised! Purchased the Gardener in 2021. Sole cracked in less than a year, along the upper chevron shapes (under the ball of the foot) from gentle, daily urban use. Replacement soles cracked again within 10 months, in the same spot. After a second replacement, they went into storage and I’m now on team Blundstone-a far better boot than I’d been led to believe.
@alvinkoeswanto8622
@alvinkoeswanto8622 2 ай бұрын
My dad owned a pair of this he bought in early 2000-ish and now after he passed away, I wear them after a resole and goring repair. The past version is very comfortable and built like a tank.
@MHeadroom
@MHeadroom 2 ай бұрын
I’ve been wearing RMs for 40 years. So I’m more than qualified to comment. I’m sorry to say the quality has fallen off. The stitching used to be sublime. My last pair (and probably my ‘last pair’) have really average stitching and looks like a first week apprenticeship job. The quality of workmanship is just not there with imperfect joins that suggest a cobbler at work that just did not give a crap that day. Finally, the leather suede is so thin and I know it won’t last the distance. Certainly NOT a boot that should cost the $700 I paid for it. I do regret dropping the price in the shop that day of purchase - should have walked out to look elsewhere as the lack of quality bugs me every day I wear them. I now use them to ride my motorbike as I just don’t care for them anymore. Sad, another iconic Australian brand going down the toilet for the sake of short term profits and thinking.
@gordonagent7037
@gordonagent7037 2 ай бұрын
Totally agree, wouldn’t buy another pair, my originals are so much better than the stuff they’re producing now and my wife totally agrees
@AusFeral23
@AusFeral23 2 ай бұрын
Only yuppies buy them now in Australia and every city doctor that comes to the country has to wear them its a bit of a weird one
@davidmcnamara8759
@davidmcnamara8759 2 ай бұрын
ALso not good bike boots no mallelous protection and will slide off in a crash swap to a decent bike boot mate
@GaryMurphy-f9s
@GaryMurphy-f9s 2 ай бұрын
I’m now 70 and bought RMW boots from when I was 16, the last I bought was about 15yrs ago, when I changed to Ariat due to price and have found Ariat a far better boot at a cheaper price. RMW is nothing like it use to be and never will be again
@MHeadroom
@MHeadroom 2 ай бұрын
@@davidmcnamara8759 I have decent bike boots.
@ThePoliceDonut
@ThePoliceDonut 2 ай бұрын
I almost bought a pair last night as an impulse buy. Thank you for saving me almost $550!
@nickmc5391
@nickmc5391 2 ай бұрын
I'd like to know if any of the changes are from it being a comfort craftsman rather then a traditional one
@Totemparadox
@Totemparadox 2 ай бұрын
Impulse buy? Lmao what are you like 5 years old?
@g43654
@g43654 2 ай бұрын
@@ThePoliceDonut or just buy the Craftsman line, which he gave a good review years ago. Mind you, this line of boots uses solid leather throughout and can be slippery. The Comfort Craftsman line was created to address the weather and wearability, but you can't make everyone happy.
@ShrewdPlacebo98
@ShrewdPlacebo98 2 ай бұрын
@@Totemparadox Are you?
@Totemparadox
@Totemparadox 2 ай бұрын
@@ShrewdPlacebo98 Clearly not since I don't do impulse purchases like a toddler.
@WORLDWARant
@WORLDWARant Ай бұрын
There is a family owned company in Victoria called Wootten boots. Absolutely unreal boots and lovely people who run it! Their Jack Gusset boot is stunning
@JD.Pawley
@JD.Pawley 2 ай бұрын
I have watched the video and have been a subscriber of Rose Anvil for a few years now. I appreciate the value of natural products in footware, and robust construction. I feel the assessment should be qualified. The comfort soled boots in the RM range has a foam inner synthetics in its sole construction, and always have I believe. Comfort soled boots are a hybrid boot designed for wearing all day. The comfort craftsman is an “office” or casual boot. It would be interesting, and a fairer assessment, to directly compare the leather soled traditional models from pre 2000s to today. FYI: I have the same style and colour (Caramel Pull Up) as is cut up. Plus also other variations of comfort soles. I also own many leather soled other models including pre. 2010 RM boots when they were locally owned.
@Brigalow01
@Brigalow01 2 ай бұрын
Back in the day Aboriginals were the back bone of beef industry.. the Aboriginal stockman would have been the biggest part of RMs business. Hawker vans would do runs out the the cattle stations and sell all RMs products to all the stockman. I often poke my nose in Rm stores and walk strait out.. prices are rediculous and the staff look down there noses at you as though you shouldnt be there.. its disgusting to think they built an empire from the old stockman but if a stockman was to walk into there shop today they would want security to search them
@TheRealMarxz
@TheRealMarxz 2 ай бұрын
as a country boy who now works city office I find the city RM stores all a bit cringe but at least my local one no longer has all the fake stone walls and shop prop cooper barrels for display stands
@Jonathan-d8d7i
@Jonathan-d8d7i 2 ай бұрын
Aborigine = Noun. Aboriginal= Adjective.
@Brigalow01
@Brigalow01 2 ай бұрын
@@Jonathan-d8d7i I left school at year 7 started working on cattle stations and droving cattle accross Australia.. adjectives and nouns were not considered
@philliplhunter
@philliplhunter 2 ай бұрын
100% agree. They have terrible in store service, not just for “stockman” but also city mice like me… they simply direct you to buy online so they can stand about doing stuff-all.
@wobblysauce
@wobblysauce 2 ай бұрын
Yuppies.
@marcjames3487
@marcjames3487 2 ай бұрын
That old saying ' Spoiling a ship for a Ha'porth of Tar' comes to mind. As an Aussie I thank you for an honest review.
@paulturner9542
@paulturner9542 2 ай бұрын
I bought the comfort craftsman yearling leather in 2017, (can only imagine it's worse now), the boots are great and comfortable, however, I needed the rubber heels replaced as they had worn out. Took it to their flagship store, 'we send it to our Adelaide factory' blah blah blah. A few weeks later I pick them up and they have dripped boot glue on the elastic. I told them they need to replace the elastic, they said it won't match as the elastics on the opposite side and pair are faded. I said, 'so you will need to replace all of them, it's not my fault there is glue on it'. Long story short another two weeks later, i get the boots back. Wear them for a day, i feel pain in my heel, like i've stepped on glass. Not sure what it was, once I got home, i took my boots off and i see blood inside the shoe, cut open sock and cut in my foot. I check the inside of the boot, theres no glass, I run my along the sole, and the nails from the new heel block had come through the sole!!! Needless to say I wasn't happy. I sent them an email, spoke to their production manager, who, to his credit said it wasn't acceptable and told me to pick a replacement pair from a store at no cost and to take that current paid to a cobbler to get fixed.
@djolemerc
@djolemerc 2 ай бұрын
So you end up with brand new spanking pair as it should.
@TheNunakun
@TheNunakun 2 ай бұрын
At least the customer service wasn't that bad
@z3r3pmoto
@z3r3pmoto 2 ай бұрын
Ouch, literally.
@kurjan1
@kurjan1 2 ай бұрын
My experience recently has been that the staff who have been in the factory for a very long time are deeply embarrassed by what is happening. Many are just bidding their time to retirement is my understanding. These days it appears they are DEI hiring!
@deanchur
@deanchur 2 ай бұрын
@@kurjan1 I had a trial run working in the distribution and online despatch out at Salisbury; I didn't see diversity hires but I did see disability hires (was nearly one myself due to dialysis at the time, but die to dialysis the hours didn't work). Not many oldies though, so maybe they got let go for cheaper labour.
@wesleystones670
@wesleystones670 2 ай бұрын
Though they look mostly identical there’s a big difference between the two ranges of boot when it comes to the sole The craftsman have a traditional full leather sole The comfort craftsman has a hybrid leather & rubber sole with foam insert. To make it a more comfortable boot. I enjoy both boots. Both wear really well & are durable. When worn all day I lean more towards the comfort craftsman. The sole is less slippery and the insole more comfortable I agree at this price point the insole should be leather but if that’s what you want then I guess buy the full leather sole version The real crime here is that you pay $589 USD for them here in Australia they run $650 AUD which is around $430 USD Still not cheap/amazing value for money but they are a good looking dress boot with heritage Excellent video! Loved the intro and history you really did your homework thank you 🙏
@Slazyyy
@Slazyyy 2 ай бұрын
Quality still going great, I got a pair of RMs Dynamic Flex Comfort Craftsman a year ago and superb comfort and durability.
@VincentVader
@VincentVader 2 ай бұрын
Get the same boot you cut the 1st time. It's simple to compare apples to apples. But yes, $600 is 3 times what those particular boots are.
@miserytube
@miserytube 2 ай бұрын
For all those looking for an actual Australian Made boot - give Wootten a go. Proper hand made by a small family crew.
@rarekid740
@rarekid740 2 ай бұрын
I would also like a see a pair of Baxter's cut in half. Got an old Made in Australia pair which I love. I don't think they're made here anymore, but still Aussie owned and offers a much cheaper alternative to RMs ($350 aud instead of $699 lol), also looks very comparably built.
@twaymouth
@twaymouth 2 ай бұрын
Have had my eye on a pair of Wootens for a while now but was struggling to justify the price however after seeing this might need to think again, would be happy to pay a bit extra for a longer lasting product.
@sstrazzi
@sstrazzi 2 ай бұрын
@@rarekid740 if you're in syd check out zatz footwear in chatswood - 275$ ish for the baxter goulburn.
@Colorado_Native
@Colorado_Native 2 ай бұрын
No, they'll say, "Well, any damage is done. What else can we cheapen in order to reduce our production costs?"
@sstrazzi
@sstrazzi 2 ай бұрын
@@Colorado_Native I think the comfort version is different from regular craftsman.
@JamesMK92
@JamesMK92 2 ай бұрын
For those who aren't in Aus, I can't overstate how ubiquitous these are. I work in the Melbourne CBD and basically every single person you see in office outfits on a week day is wearing RM boots. It's such a shame the quality has dropped off, the original boots were considered incredible value and they were cheaper back then as well as being better. I never got around to buying a pair and I guess I won't now. I'm hoping this gradually opens the door to smaller local brands taking more of the market. Last year I got a pair of custom ordered Gordon Classic Boots from Wootten for $820 AUD and they are spectacular, would be great if they got a video on this channel. They recently closed their Melbourne outlet though which is super unfortunate.
@randynovick7972
@randynovick7972 2 ай бұрын
I got fitted at the Melbourne storefront right before they closed. It was a great experience, but Ballarat's not that big a trip. Totally agree that Wes should get a pair.
@Wootten_
@Wootten_ 2 ай бұрын
Stoked you're loving your boots, James. Thank you. And yours are coming soon, Randall!
@kidoctane
@kidoctane 2 ай бұрын
Same in Sydney. Some of us used to joke that buying a first pair of RMs was a right of passage for the young profession types
@je2338
@je2338 2 ай бұрын
Bought my rms in 2016 and wore them nearly every day for the first three years. I wear them often still and the leather is perfect and the sole is still going. Strong. Couldn't say the same for my Thursdays boots and shoes I own. I think the black leather version is better quality
@stevemanias1444
@stevemanias1444 2 ай бұрын
Essential Collins St tradie wear
@itstrikesagain
@itstrikesagain 2 ай бұрын
Agree with all points but still think it would have been worth the exercise to compare the same boot to the one you had from 4 years ago.
@cassandraknight8804
@cassandraknight8804 2 ай бұрын
I’m 49…. Have had a hard working life and tried many Australian boots…. My Rossi boots from the 90s are by far the best I ever owned.
@ianjones2731
@ianjones2731 2 ай бұрын
Oh man yes loved my Rossi boots from the 90's
@siggychaloupka7330
@siggychaloupka7330 Ай бұрын
100% agree - Rossi boots in the 1990’s were stuck in a timewarp from decades earlier, and though they weren’t the trendiest looking, they were by far the most comfortable and durable.
@Ambrose4695
@Ambrose4695 2 ай бұрын
RM.Williams is now owned by one of Australia's mining billionaires. He sprouts all sorts of patriotic garbage but (1) rips off Aboriginal land holders, (2) doesn't employ Australian seafarers on his ships, and (3) is now running down an iconic Australian brand.... Thanks for the enlightening video.
@WHDRWN
@WHDRWN 2 ай бұрын
Yeah but what's the other side of that coin. Some green ceo in black rocks pocket pushing anti australian sentiment.
@Arnz01
@Arnz01 2 ай бұрын
That's your number 1? Noongars won't even wear RM Williams, let alone to their regular "always was, always will be", "change the date" protests.
@Pat.Mustard
@Pat.Mustard 2 ай бұрын
He rips off all Aussies by only paying royalties to a handful of elitist aboriginals that form native title land councils.
@Ambrose4695
@Ambrose4695 2 ай бұрын
@@Arnz01 I was referring to a recent court case involving mining royalties. Any order you like...
@WHDRWN
@WHDRWN 2 ай бұрын
@@Arnz01 no come to kimberly anyone wears rm
@dbenalcazar
@dbenalcazar 2 ай бұрын
Just to clarify that the price of RM William boots here in Australia is $649 AUD which equates to about $425 USD. - not sure if they’re jacking up the price for US hence why you’re referencing $589 in the video? 7:31
@jcc1889
@jcc1889 2 ай бұрын
Shipping cost
@jannis8133
@jannis8133 2 ай бұрын
At 11:50 it does cost $589
@childofthe60s100
@childofthe60s100 2 ай бұрын
Irrelevant - VASTLY overpriced wherever you are!
@everydayisearthday5500
@everydayisearthday5500 2 ай бұрын
Shipping and handling plus covering the free returns
@monkeysgone2heaven1
@monkeysgone2heaven1 2 ай бұрын
@@jannis8133 He's not disputing that. He is rightly pointing out that, in Australia the boots don't cost nearly so much. Check out the pricing on their website - AUD$649 for the Comfort Craftsman. The American pricing is quite out of whack. But still an interesting video. And i'd agree the boots are surely still overpriced in Oz.
@T.R.A.N.C.E
@T.R.A.N.C.E 2 ай бұрын
You shouldn't be comparing the Comfort Craftsman to the regular Craftsman, that's why there is less leather and more foam. But you are right that the Comfort Craftsman is not worth the price, but I have a pair of full leather Craftmans from 2021 that still have the 1.8mm thick leather and they are worth the ~$500, nothing in the $200 price range remotely compares to the quality of them.
@childofthe60s100
@childofthe60s100 2 ай бұрын
He was successfully demonstrating the poor build quality - the RM apologists, obviously don't like that!
@Cab895
@Cab895 2 ай бұрын
"You shouldn't be comparing the Comfort Craftsman to the regular Craftsman, " And why the fuk not ? they are the exact same price and are sold as being of equal quality. Guess this is why you don't have a popular youtube channel
@alex98b627
@alex98b627 2 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. Not sure what the prices are for each, but when doing a comparison test it’s pretty reasonable to expect the same boots to be compared. The “comfort” is made to be comfortable immediately so that might be why it has thinner leather. It we’ll never know for sure until a like for like test is actually performed. And for anyone wants to dismiss my comment as a fan boy - I have only owned one pair of RMs and I really dislike them. Borderline hate them. So they are so stiff, so uncomfortable. But I can’t bring myself to get rid of them because of how much they cost. The irony is I’d probably pay the same price for thinner leather based on my experience with the super thick and stiff leather.
@WHDRWN
@WHDRWN 2 ай бұрын
@@alex98b627 Not filling those nail holes with hot cork screams budget to me. I have 3 pairs and I'm worried that if I get new heels and soles they will be lower quality than my used ones. Same with the belts, I have heard they are no good now which sucks so much cos they are the best belts ever.
@snapjenk
@snapjenk 2 ай бұрын
@@alex98b627 Push through the initial discomfort and they become quite a comfortable boot. I had a similar thing happen. Now I wear them everyday with no issue
@mrcoolguy1
@mrcoolguy1 Ай бұрын
i bought a pair 7 years ago, and a pair 6 months ago. Both are beautiful pairs of boots and have maintain their quality and only seem to get more and more comfortable. I am from Adelaide, Australia where the company was founded and contrary to most other places, working class people continue to wear them here despite the cost, this is due to $500 for a pair thatll last you a decade is clearly a sound investment. Beautiful boots.
@Hedonophobia
@Hedonophobia Ай бұрын
Did you even watch the video?
@peterhoughton3770
@peterhoughton3770 2 ай бұрын
Yep… used to be a work boot, now a dress boot only. For riding/working if you want elastic sides I’d use mongrel or red back. For dressing up maybe RMs but yeah, the price! The mongrel riding boot looks ok.
@Love2Cruise
@Love2Cruise 2 ай бұрын
Cut open the 'regular' Craftsman boot from 2024 and compare to the previous version?
@benjaminbootn
@benjaminbootn 2 ай бұрын
This is the video alot of Aussies and cobblers here have been waiting for. We hoped after 'Twiggy' brought it back into Australian hands the quality would have come back. A lot of posts on Reddit over the years from fans, disappointed customers and cobblers have all pointed to this decline in quality. But nothing comprehensively embarrassing like this. Hopefully this video goes viral & gets Tattarang's attention. I only say this as a disappointed Aussie and a fan of RM Williams, whilst I slide on my Chocolate Suede Craftsman 🇦🇺
@thegorn
@thegorn 2 ай бұрын
Twiggy is such a con artist. As an energy scientist, you only have to see the con job he is pulling with hydrogen to know that.
@InfinitePlain
@InfinitePlain 2 ай бұрын
Everything Forrest touches turns to shit. He got lucky once with iron ore. Everything else is an epic fail.
@FairladyS130
@FairladyS130 2 ай бұрын
@@InfinitePlain Yep, no quality there.
@japesss
@japesss Ай бұрын
I don't think this video is remotely comprehensive though? Comparing a Classic to a Comfort and being surprised by the amount of leather used? Comparing aniline thickness to full grain yearling? It's apples and oranges despite a likely decline. Needs to compare a 2024 classic yearling boot with the 2020 pair he has. Comforts have padded insoles for a reason and the rubber soles are far better than leather in my experience.
@benjaminbootn
@benjaminbootn Ай бұрын
​@@japesssit doesn't matter what boots he compares. These are $600USD/$650 AUD boots. The comfort craftsmen and classic are the same price. And for that money, 1.3mm uppers is not acceptable. Not even Thursdays uppers are that thin. I have had both rubber and leather soles. I prefer the leather soles. More breathable and supportive, they just not that durable. I would also like to add this video has gotten a lot of attention, with heaps of references on social media, and the odd media outlet article on it.
@halfsharona
@halfsharona 2 ай бұрын
The older ones are bombproof.
@jvharbin8337
@jvharbin8337 2 ай бұрын
You can say that about Doc Martins too. And just about Anything made back then when they were legit worried about a bomb dropping on them!
@JoeBrooks-m1g
@JoeBrooks-m1g 2 ай бұрын
1.7 mm leather isn't stopping squat lol
@joewellfair8238
@joewellfair8238 2 ай бұрын
It's like the normal way of making things back in the old days represents the highest peak of craft and durability nowadays.
@snells-window
@snells-window 2 ай бұрын
bought mine 40 years ago and the soles wore out in just over 6 months...hard lesson to learn, and RMW didnt want to know about it.
@Lexip_Pixel
@Lexip_Pixel 2 ай бұрын
Australians are not accustomed to complaining, and big companies know that. When companies (and the government) start to hear a bit of complaining, they shut it down, claiming it is 'un-Australian.' This is why iconic brands like R.M. Williams can lower their quality without fearing backlash. They will do this for a couple of years to increase profits and then possibly return to more durable products. It's a shame.
@Kurz_Weber
@Kurz_Weber 2 ай бұрын
Thing is we're also not stupid. So when something drops in perception and quality we walk away. Though the sheeple effect of your corporate RM wearer will run on for a while before people get stung by lesser quality faults.
@david-jq2gb
@david-jq2gb 2 ай бұрын
I’m an Aussie. Good review. Lots of comments about the type of people wearing the boots now rather than the boots. But without knowing it they’re right. RM is owned by our 2nd richest person competing with our first richest person for inconic Oz brands. The traditional RM wearers were oringinally from the land or people who appreciated quality and knew the boot could last a lifetime with servicing. Now - it’s worn in the city. They’ll pay the $600 and not know or care thjey’re getting tocuhed up. Sad
@Gene1969
@Gene1969 2 ай бұрын
The corporate greed by this company is astounding! And I thought Carhart was bad! Thanks for shining a spotlight on it.
@crazyg74
@crazyg74 2 ай бұрын
I suspect Twiggy Forrest is to blame...
@youwebz
@youwebz 2 ай бұрын
At least RMW didn’t demand AFAIK all employees topake vax like carhart. I will never buy them.
@youwebz
@youwebz 2 ай бұрын
@@crazyg74he has lost the plot too!
@pegcity4eva
@pegcity4eva 2 ай бұрын
I miss when Carhart was cheap and only sold at stores that sold at trades stores.
@sevrin1965
@sevrin1965 2 ай бұрын
I bought a pair of their 'Gardener' boots from their Bond Street store in London UK about a year ago, I had only worn them once, and the second time of wearing them the heel fell off of one of the boots! on closer inspection I found the heels were only glued on, no nails at all, I took them back to the store for a refund and was told they must have missed out on the nails in the construction process and they had never seen this before.
@LeonardCrassman
@LeonardCrassman 2 ай бұрын
The comfort insole is poron and lasts. Very comfortable boots and you can always buy the regular leather soul if you like.
@childofthe60s100
@childofthe60s100 2 ай бұрын
Leather Soul - sounds like a Beatles follow up album?
@person1907
@person1907 Ай бұрын
2 different products 🤔 I wonder if the rubber-soled Comfort Craftsmans have ever had a leather insole? Their website states that is isn't a leather insole. The current leather-soled classic Craftsmans may still resemble your older boot. Not enough info to know if anything has actually changed. The "Comfort" in the name may explain the thinner leather too???
@anjishtgosain4648
@anjishtgosain4648 2 күн бұрын
I've got a few Craftsman RM Williams boots with a leather sole. I got a hole in the sole of one of them, and decided to have it replaced with a rubber sole from the factory for AUD 165. Interestingly, they replaced the old leather insole with a new leather insole, and not the comfort insole from this video. RM no longer appears to sell the Craftsman with a rubber sole, only the Comfort Craftsman 😢. I wish the heel cup was made of leather. But I do appreciate that the shank is not metal - don't need to take off the boots at the airport to is security!
@GlassJack
@GlassJack 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for your service. To the boot manufacturers, no more fucking around. You will be exposed.
@mattallen4608
@mattallen4608 2 ай бұрын
Nice to see an honest review. I was disappointed by the origin review because you defended some of these features when you were sponsored by origin. I love origin but I was greatly disappointed by their boots
@Theanimeisforme
@Theanimeisforme 2 ай бұрын
His push for origin was due to their nearly all American true leather components, unlike many today.
@ml.2770
@ml.2770 2 ай бұрын
I can imagine the RM Williams board room is going to get rowdy soon.
@mapryan
@mapryan 2 ай бұрын
Nah, they'll just carry on milking the mugs for years to come
@simplelifelost
@simplelifelost 2 ай бұрын
Very fair assessment. I’ve owned 3 pairs in the last 20 years. The last pair was under AUD400. They weren’t very supportive or comfortable for that price. I agree, there’s no way they’re worth AUD700 up. However, they must be the best looking footwear I’ve ever seen.
@justinarthur3773
@justinarthur3773 2 ай бұрын
When I was a kid (long time ago), RM Williams were made to last forever. They actually offered a lifetime warranty on everything but the sole. I remember in the 80's my dad took back a 30 year old pair he had issues with and RM Williams replaced them for nothing.
@fortyeightfiend
@fortyeightfiend 2 ай бұрын
Just to be fair, comparing the Craftsman to the Comfort Craftsman is a bit apples and oranges. I could be wrong, but I think the Comfort Craftsman, the new one you just cut apart is supposed to have more synthetic, comfortable components inside. If you want something more traditional, you go with the regular Craftsman, which I believe is the one you cut up a while ago.
@digrar
@digrar 2 ай бұрын
Spot on, old mate needs to be comparing apples to apples.
@michaeldaly7884
@michaeldaly7884 2 ай бұрын
@@digrar Also they are $650 in AUD, which in USD is $430, so they are not truly a '$600 boot'
@garryhudson6945
@garryhudson6945 2 ай бұрын
Boots BS galore.
@c0r8d877
@c0r8d877 2 ай бұрын
@@michaeldaly7884 They are $539 in the USA, plus NY state sales tax of 8.875 % brings the price to $586.83.
@phunk8607
@phunk8607 2 ай бұрын
for near $600 ???? mate you are defending a shit product
@Mai-dd7us
@Mai-dd7us 2 ай бұрын
Agreed with your review for comfort line, but I think the Craftsman line is still leather insole and I don’t think it changed much from your previous review 4 years ago.. Curious to see what other lines are like, would you consider cutting more boots from different lines of R.M. Williams ?
@thomashardy1851
@thomashardy1851 2 ай бұрын
I wonder if you bought the same boot if it would be the same as the old ones.
@G__U__T__S
@G__U__T__S 2 ай бұрын
It wouldn’t be, as Australians have been saying for years. That’s the whole reason this video exists in the first place, because people keep saying the boots have seriously dropped in quality
@Zelphion
@Zelphion 2 ай бұрын
​@@G__U__T__Sthe problem with this video tho is that he didn't compare the same boots, therefore it's difficult to compare the quality of the construction. If he was comparing value based on the quality of construction then this video would make more sense.
@sammyjarvis9521
@sammyjarvis9521 2 ай бұрын
By the way they are $650 Australian Dollars in Australia, at todays exchange rate is $430 USD not Cheap by any means, but also an interesting thing to consider. I Inherited a pair from my grandfather that i know he wore riding and they were are over 30 years old, they are comfortable and i can wear them all day and I'm on my second set of soles (leather sole) and they still look and feel amazing, I also Purchased my own pair of craftsman Rubber Soles (2021) and no matter how much I wear them I can not get them to be comfortable.
@Packet_Phantom
@Packet_Phantom 2 ай бұрын
Keep in mind, Australian manufacturing has become so expensive that manufacturers are forced to cheap out on quality instead of cheaping out on manual labor. To give you an example, I work in a fabrication shop here in Aus, our charge out rate in $150/hr, that covers the on the floor workers and overheads. Now imagine how expensive these boots are to make for an Australian company, think again about the manufacturing of a car or a boat when charging out at such high rates. These $600 boots are equivalent to 4 hours of charge out at my workshop. Now of course, production lines and automation are the only thing that can help reduce the prices of items manufactured in Australia. However, the Australian government has given zero f**ks toward manufacturing for so long that manufacturing is almost dead. We don't have cheap labor like China, and we no longer have the skilled people, or economy to support automation like the US does. We are stuck in a loop of manufacturing being so expensive that, we are forced to choose to lower the quality of our products, or get priced out completely by overseas competitors. Now I'm not justifying this, I'm in complete agreement that RM's should be ashamed for this standard of quality for a $600 boot. its horrendous. But the Australian government should be more ashamed for not incentivizing and not allowing manufacturing to blossom here in Aus. It's incredible sad to see a country with sooooo many resources and soooo much space, almost perfect for large scale, low cost manufacturing, to fail so spectacularly.
@amybrando2585
@amybrando2585 2 ай бұрын
100%
@Peterviegal
@Peterviegal 2 ай бұрын
Hey mate. Are you Aussie? So much American spelling.
@hambo6713
@hambo6713 2 ай бұрын
This deserves to be the top comment. The realities of manufacturing here are tragic and politicians played a huge part.
@Packet_Phantom
@Packet_Phantom 2 ай бұрын
@@Peterviegal The only words I used outside of the Australian spelling convention is "Labor" instead of "Labour". But look mate, if that's all you get out of my comment, so be it.
@Packet_Phantom
@Packet_Phantom 2 ай бұрын
@@hambo6713 Too right, it's even more tragic considering how much of a fundimental lead we had given our space and resources. Unfortunately though, we have taken the easy way out and export all of resources instead. If the mining tap was switched off tomorrow, Australia's economy would cease to exist. What a terrible position to be in!
@anklexpress
@anklexpress 2 ай бұрын
DONT YOU DARE TRASH NICHOLAS CAGE!! you take that back!
@SalamiCellar
@SalamiCellar 2 ай бұрын
It's Nicolas cage but you're right he needs to learn some respect!
@zefsam
@zefsam 2 ай бұрын
I agree. Nicholas cage has a much broader set of Acting skills that ANY OTHER ACTOR alive at the moment
@kato2395
@kato2395 2 ай бұрын
Tru dat! Nicholas Cage is a real one!
@throwawaypt2throwawaypt2-xp8nx
@throwawaypt2throwawaypt2-xp8nx 2 ай бұрын
my middle name is Nicholas, because he was in a nic cage phase when he had me.
@sheepsfoot2
@sheepsfoot2 2 ай бұрын
Has anyone seen him in The vampires kiss ?.... well worth watching , what a nutcase 🤣. !
@longjonwhite
@longjonwhite 2 ай бұрын
Old Pommie bloke here. I am a lifelong fan of properly built shoes, got some nice Northampton made ones. So anyway, I drank the CoolAid and stumped up about £400, 5or6 years ago for a pair of black RMW’s. Disappointing to learn they are not all that… To be fair, they are comfortable and still look great, but I’ve only been wearing them for “best”. At my age that’s mostly funerals! Lol! Not ready to see how they stand up to yard work etc. just yet, so far I’ve managed not to scuff ‘em , or worse still overstretch the elastic sides. Maybe they’ll hold up long enough for my own funeral! 👍
@jairoaldana1430
@jairoaldana1430 2 ай бұрын
Cut open the signature series RM Williams 🫢
@RonnieStanley-tc6vi
@RonnieStanley-tc6vi 2 ай бұрын
Why? If their 600 bone boots can't cut it, what will "signature" boots do besides cost more.
@Love2Cruise
@Love2Cruise 2 ай бұрын
@@RonnieStanley-tc6vi The non-Comfort craftsman seemed to be better constructed, at least the one from a few years back, for the same price as the Comfort Craftsman. It'd be interesting to see if the extra money just buys the "Signature" tag or if there are actually differences.
@PeterCox-k1w
@PeterCox-k1w 2 ай бұрын
Like so many brands they have been ruined and no longer any interest
@remo72tg
@remo72tg 2 ай бұрын
@@Love2Cruise Even if they're better constructed, they shouldn't be charging $600 for this crap
@DMurdock
@DMurdock 2 ай бұрын
​@@RonnieStanley-tc6viit's 600 AUD in Australia, which is 400 USD. People are being misled here.
@deanperry1394
@deanperry1394 2 ай бұрын
Have some RM Santa Fe that I bought in the 90s, sole repaired twice (rubber added to leather - sigh concrete is slippery). Elastic has been repaired once. Tons of wear. Still in great condition. Still super comfortable and stylish. Sad to watch, but glad you're holding them to account.
@coffeenutta2488
@coffeenutta2488 2 ай бұрын
What a lot of people don't know (Even Australians). RM Williams are a wear for life boot. If they wear out, you simply get them fixed not replaced.
@K_j_M
@K_j_M 2 ай бұрын
A bit harsh on Nick Cage... Man won an Oscar for Leaving Las Vegas.
@PeterPaoliello
@PeterPaoliello 2 ай бұрын
Nicky enjoying some down time at home watching KZbin, "what the fuck did I do"
@andrewnicon
@andrewnicon 2 ай бұрын
Oh I could name like 15 amazing Nicolas Cage movies. Hell, he can get an outright terrible script and improve the movie immensely by giving it a memorable performance. People calling him a bad actor are deluded and haven't seen enough Nicolas Cage movies. (I've seen all of them, he's my favourite actor)
@jrvasquez4353
@jrvasquez4353 2 ай бұрын
What Cage should be doing is Leaving Acting.
@andrewnicon
@andrewnicon 2 ай бұрын
@@jrvasquez4353 People who say stuff like this don't actually like movies and are just repeating memes.
@akitas8165
@akitas8165 2 ай бұрын
@@andrewnicon Hilarious.
@96111thomas
@96111thomas 2 ай бұрын
Mr.Rose Anvil! Can the double harness be used as suspenders?!? If not you should totally make some!!!!
@kingofthenoobs
@kingofthenoobs 2 ай бұрын
I think the Comfort Craftsman have always had a lot of synthetics compared to the Craftsman for people who don't like breaking in leather.
@mv4711
@mv4711 2 ай бұрын
It's clearly listed on the RM Williams website as being a Comfort Insole.
@rowanrobinson
@rowanrobinson 2 ай бұрын
I've got comfort and regular craftsman and I find regular more comfortable for wearing all day. Comfort gets too hot. Weird.
@Zulualfadelta
@Zulualfadelta 2 ай бұрын
@@kingofthenoobs The original Comfort Craftsman were built identical to the traditional craftsman with just a rubber sole.
@MrDitkovitch65
@MrDitkovitch65 2 ай бұрын
​@@ZulualfadeltaThat the Blaxland. Leather insole, rubber outsole. The comfort craftsman were introduced in the early 2000s with the comfort insole.
@peterchivers6312
@peterchivers6312 2 ай бұрын
I have to say this is a bit a surprise to me - I bought my first pair of RM's in 1984 and have always had at least one pair on the go since then. Some of the comments below say they've noticed a drop off in quality - I haven't really. Typically I'll buy a pair and wear them 5 days a week for 4 or 5 years before replacing. I do remember one early pair (late'90's) lasted me 10 years and that hasn't happened for a while, but I still think the quality is very good. Some comments say they had early pairs for 25 years... I was never that fortunate but I'm hard on my boots, with high miles and very wide feet. One thing: I'd like them to bring back the made-to-measure. I've never worn through the inners but one of the advantages is that you can send them back to Adelaide for re-soling: costs about AUS$100. I'll usually do this once in the life of a pair. I like them because of the way they mould to your feet and they are also lightweight ... making them very comfortable. I really notice the difference in quality (comfort, suppleness of construction, quality of leather) when I swap to my Timberlands. I like the Timberlands as well but it's a completely different thing - and they are about $250 here in Australia. I wouldn't wear my RM's mustering cattle though (with a respectful nod to @Antechynus below) - those days of the old "green soles" are gone.
@777greglee
@777greglee Ай бұрын
I have bought three pairs of RMs from charity stores over the years for a combined price of $18 (AU). I guess i managed to pay a lot less and get the better quality (older) ones at the same time! All three are still amazing.
@JH-wn1ko
@JH-wn1ko 2 ай бұрын
This is a very interesting take. I have whites, nicks, Aldens, Crockett & Jones, Vibergs. I love them all very dearly and some of these, for sure are considered tanks/well made. However, absolutely none of them can compete with my RM Williams Comfort Craftman boots when it comes to comfort/easy to wear. I can wear them all day at a time without feet soreness. I do want to see how long it actually lasts, along with re-sole-ability.
@daniellogansa8101
@daniellogansa8101 2 ай бұрын
@@JH-wn1ko you can get them relasted at the factory, which was a relief considering I don’t expect the foam insole to last as long as leather. They’re overpriced (so are the leather ones), but they last a long time still.
@childofthe60s100
@childofthe60s100 2 ай бұрын
You are obviously overloaded with money, like to brag about it and have nothing better to do with it?
@JH-wn1ko
@JH-wn1ko 2 ай бұрын
@@daniellogansa8101 thank you for this input! Looking forward to it.
@JH-wn1ko
@JH-wn1ko 2 ай бұрын
@@childofthe60s100 not sure why my response to you got deleted. However - just to reiterate. It’s not about bragging about who got more expensive shoes. Bc I could care less about that. We all know that this community thrives on wanting the best made shoes/boots and it comes with a price tag. I’ve worked on this collection over a decade and I admit that it has become an addiction/obsession. I was just making a point that these boots are just very easy to wear and the comfort has been amazing even though when comparing materials used, they are absolutely lacking and yes, it is overpriced. If anything, let me make an assumption as well - it seems to me that it’s you that’s overloaded with time, like to attack everyone’s comments due to your own insecurities and have nothing better to do with it? Lastly - Rose Anvil’s content is great at sharing knowledge and I appreciate what he does. But here you are, having a problem with everyone’s comments. Here’s a lesson for you…If you have a problem with everyone…maybe it’s you that’s the problem 😉 perspectives…
@VastonViji
@VastonViji 2 ай бұрын
Were the RMs bought in the last few years? That's where it's much more noticeable in the difference in quality.
@anonymousotter6455
@anonymousotter6455 2 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure RM Williams still makes full-leather boots, they're just listed as "Craftsman" and not "Comfort Craftsman". You purposely bought the one with synthetic materials and got mad at it for having synthetics. Besides, plenty of people on reddit have theirs for years and have no complaints.
@CarsonsChannel
@CarsonsChannel 2 ай бұрын
Hey! National Treasure is actually a pretty good movie. It's a lot of fun and it holds up surprisingly well.
@cudgee7144
@cudgee7144 2 ай бұрын
Been wearing these since 1973. The first pair i ever bought was from Vic Market in Melbourne, they had an outlet there, and they cost me $45, which believe it or not was expensive back then, but still fairly close to todays price adjusted for the yearly wage. But they were cheap and great value long term because they lasted. I have been a wearer of RM's ever since, and long term they work out cheap and good value because they last. i have 2 pairs at the moment, one pair i have had for 20 years and they are still going strong and they have seen really hard use. The last pair, and i will not need to purchase another pair, i purchased 8 years ago in 2016, and they were custom made for me and are of the old breed. Fully lined leather, and thick leather insole with fully stitched welted seams. There was always going to be an issue when they became a corporatized entity and a company that investor groups wanted to invest in. Any family business taken over by corporates have a restructure and the bottom line now reigns supreme. Twiggy taking over has changed everything, for all his social agendas and being a good corporate citizen he only cares about one thing the bottom line. When he came out and publicly stated that the manufacturing of R M Williams boots would remain in Australia that was the start of their death knell. They are still being made here but only for the time being, the quality has diminished significantly and they will be made off shore in the future. It is like the board of a football club coming out and saying the Coach has our full support and backing. You know he's dead in the water.
@madc355
@madc355 8 күн бұрын
I’m an old school fan of RM Williams. In fact my grandfather was a stockman in outback Queensland Australia in the 1930’s and very early 40’s before the war. He knew Reginald Williams personally. So I grew up with this brand close to heart. However there is no doubt quality has dropped . And in no way am I offended by this video. The price of them have become ridiculous and yet the quality has gone down. Thank you for calling this out
@Thetache
@Thetache 2 ай бұрын
The sad thing is this is the way of all brands now, someone builds up a value proposition business and it grows organically through being a superb quality and very good value product....Venture capitalists see an opportunity to milk the brand by slashing quality to bottom out costs while keeping the price high or even increasing it, they offer the owners a huge price to exit ....The brand then slowly declines as the reputation is ruined, but by this time the vultures have picked the business clean of assets and cash and move on to the next.
@gavinknight8560
@gavinknight8560 2 ай бұрын
It’s more something private equity companies do, but your point is well made. VC’s are a different type of evil.
@TheMutley
@TheMutley 2 ай бұрын
Huge congratulations on the cut-centering. That was an awesome job!
@paulidevoss7249
@paulidevoss7249 2 ай бұрын
Don’t apologise to us Aussies, we’re really glad you took a good look at RMs and let us know what’s really going on. They have taken a treasured emblem of outback Australia and sold it up the river. Seems to be happening to a lot of the excellent old brands we used to love and trust. Akubra hats have also been sold to a big corporate company, just waiting for their quality to drop through the floor too now.
@BlahBlubification
@BlahBlubification Ай бұрын
Mine are the same comfort craftsman and are at least 10 to 14 years old. They've held up very well, often walking 10km/shift when I worked hospitality. Just makes me wonder if I should send them back to RM Williams for repair or take them somewhere else.
@kymfrancis4612
@kymfrancis4612 2 ай бұрын
My RM Williams Craftsman boots are 25 years old, my daughter’s black craftsman boots are 18 years old. We have show horses & our riding boots are regularly worn as riding boots & as dress boots, they are beautifully made boots.
@deano6912
@deano6912 2 ай бұрын
I’m 52 and I am on my third pair. Only one pair had to be thrown away. Current pair I have owned since around 2012 and I have replaced the soles once. I suspected the quality was sliding, and you have confirmed that. Excellent video, thanks for posting.
@alpinebreed1774
@alpinebreed1774 2 ай бұрын
As someone that grew up with everyone around me owning rmwilliams I myself own 3 pars. I am genuinely ashamed that this is what they have done.
@IXINEDDYIXI
@IXINEDDYIXI 2 ай бұрын
"$589!? RM Williams should be embarrassed" - Proceeds to try to sell a camera strap for $267
@matthewsolway2642
@matthewsolway2642 2 ай бұрын
Can't thankyou enough for this video. I'm an aussie and was about to invest in a so called quality RM Williams boot and no Can't justify it. Thankyou again for your content
@anguselmslie7783
@anguselmslie7783 2 ай бұрын
Go try some on. A) the ones he just reviewed is by design lighter and thinner with composite sole to be comfortable. B) the leather sole craftsmans or other boots are different. I’ll personally vouch the comfort of their boots, just make sure you get the right size.
@hoyks1
@hoyks1 2 ай бұрын
They are now the dress uniform boot for the Australian Defence Force. Considering the soles used to fall off the old shoe when you pulled them on once a year and just walked down the road, these are an improvement. The volume to meet that order would probably see some corners cut.
@daniellogansa8101
@daniellogansa8101 2 ай бұрын
I mean they literally advertise this as having a foam insole. You can also get the boot rebuilt by them when the insole goes bad. You could also just buy the equally overpriced version with the leather insole.
@IsthisMike
@IsthisMike 2 ай бұрын
Still doesn't change the fact that it isn't worth $600. If you believe that they're worth that much, then you suffer from Brand Loyalty
@daniellogansa8101
@daniellogansa8101 2 ай бұрын
@@IsthisMike if you read my comment I distinctly say that they’re overpriced…
@chaoticature
@chaoticature 2 ай бұрын
I hope this review kicks their butt back into the quality. We have bugger all manufacturing and legitimately Australian made products worthy to be proud of these days. "They've" sold our Cars, Vegemite, world class shock absorbers, quality fruit, quality building construction etc etc. So damn sad! Still love you Australia!
@indiathylane2158
@indiathylane2158 2 ай бұрын
There's not a lot of options when other countries can made decent products much cheaper. I for one am happy with the comparatively high wages Aussies get, especially these days. The loss of manufacturing here actually was related to the surplus of cheap overseas-made stuff. The balance-of-payments stopped being an issue decades ago. International trade and the global economy means we can buy TVs, phones, stereos, dress shirts, etc., much cheaper than if we made them. For widespread Aussie boot-making to continue, we'd have had to resort to the textiles trade of old, underpaid workers driven to exhaustion & paid a pittance, while their employers suck from the government teat of tariffs. Near the end, textile makers were notorious for exploiting migrant women, given unfairly large amounts of piecework in sweatshops, being stood over by thugs. If that's what it took to produce affordable footwear, I'm happy to see the end of manufacturing here. I'm sad to see iconic brands die or head overseas, but I feel we have it pretty good, consumer-wise.
@Joseph_yy
@Joseph_yy 2 ай бұрын
I’ve been wanted to buy a pair of R.M for at least 5 years now. My plan was to buy them straight from the store when I’m visiting Australia, and making the whole thing a special memory. Welp fuck me and my dream I guess, I’ve never been this sad to see the quality drop of a brand
@liamkelly5850
@liamkelly5850 2 ай бұрын
Don’t buy the comfort craftsman and buy a different upper leather. Don’t let your dreams be dreams.
@Joseph_yy
@Joseph_yy 2 ай бұрын
@@liamkelly5850 Yeah but do I really want to risk 600 bucks for a brand that has been confirmed to be cutting corners on one of their boots? I’m not sure yet, I might need some time to think about it, maybe look for a similar boots that are actually good quality at the same time
@paulaus
@paulaus 2 ай бұрын
There's outlet stores here and with the US to Australia exchange rate you could probably pick up a pair of Craftsman's for 300ish.
@everydayisearthday5500
@everydayisearthday5500 2 ай бұрын
I wanted to do the same
@indiathylane2158
@indiathylane2158 2 ай бұрын
I think this review was a little unreasonable. And I bet every upmarket shoe & boot made in the last 40 years has had a huge mark-up. Why be disappointed? At least head into a RMW store and have a look. Years ago I would have suggested Blundstones, which at the time were half the price of Doc Martens and just as hard-wearing. Now they're no longer made in Australia.
@mrmr1964
@mrmr1964 2 ай бұрын
What you need are the Craftsman or Signature Craftsman versions of this boot. The Comfort version is good but nit quite as durable as the previous 2. I've been wearing RM's for well over 20 years and they are awesome.
@jeanhawken4482
@jeanhawken4482 2 ай бұрын
I have one pair that are more than 70 years old I bought them second hand and my two new pair that are about 50 years old. Gorgeous boots. Getting harder to find a quality cobbler. They have taken such a hiding in all weather, all of them and they still tart up well. Not sure about the newer ones.
@cbsaw8942
@cbsaw8942 2 ай бұрын
This video doesn't seem that logical. You're comparing 2 different RM Williams boots. The comfort craftsman is constructed in a completely different way to the craftsman. I do agree that the comfort craftsman is far too expensive for what it is (especially at the ridiculous price in the US), but I just don't think this video is framed in a useful way.
@Chzydawg
@Chzydawg 2 ай бұрын
Yep. 100% this. If this was the new leather soled vs the old leather soled, then it would make sense. He's comparing a Ferrari to a Fiat. Just because they're made by the same people, doesn't mean they're the same product.
@george_k_carmichael
@george_k_carmichael 2 ай бұрын
I'm an Aussie - And Thank you so much for clarifying my suspicions. My old RMs were 10yrs old and had to get a new pair about 2yrs ago (due to some drunken escapades) and they definitely did not feel right! - I thought, "Maybe I just needed to break them in" but they still did not feel the same under-foot. Mate - You're Gold! Cheers!
@Chzydawg
@Chzydawg 2 ай бұрын
They're different boots, he bought the Rubber soled "comfort" boots and compared them to the same leather soled boots that they still sell. It's a misleading video. He also paid way too much for them, both styles still sell for $600 dollerydoos, can look it up right now on their website. He's buying them in the US for $300 more and complaining about the price.
@z3160200
@z3160200 2 ай бұрын
The only thing I like about RM Williams is that all the tossers in the office I work at wear them. Making them easier to identify.
@BrettKingman
@BrettKingman 2 ай бұрын
🤣
@silentblackhole
@silentblackhole 2 ай бұрын
I honestly really appreciate your introduction. your introduction and history of the brand. It's good to pay some attention to details before critiquing. it. Know the history. Well done.
@snip3d
@snip3d 2 ай бұрын
As an aussie who wears RMs I appreciate the call out. Hopefully this gets attention and holds them accountable. Hoping for the old days to come back. Id rather pay $1000 for a pair that lasts than $700 that needs to be replaced twice or 3 times more frequently.
@Brajin1
@Brajin1 2 ай бұрын
The comfort model is “softened” a lot. Your best bet if you but this brand is the original craftsman. It has the veg tan insole + thicker leather. Dam this National treasure hate is uncalled for!!
@user-jl2wd1it8h
@user-jl2wd1it8h 2 ай бұрын
My cousin Yung Suk Dong is a factory worker in China. They produce RM Williams copy boots called RM Wangies. He said the quality is so low they were forced to used dead insects and animal droppings into a cheap composite material that they marketed as eco friendly to the people in California.
@AusFeral23
@AusFeral23 2 ай бұрын
That's gold 😂😂😂
@user-jl2wd1it8h
@user-jl2wd1it8h 2 ай бұрын
@@AusFeral23 Thanks mate. I'll get Dongy to send you a pair of Wangies.
@AusFeral23
@AusFeral23 2 ай бұрын
@@user-jl2wd1it8h thanks mate i will give them to my mate Richard Cranium for his birthday 😁
@AusFeral23
@AusFeral23 2 ай бұрын
@@user-jl2wd1it8h cool i will give them to my mate Richard cranium for his birthday 👍
@sgroadie6367
@sgroadie6367 2 ай бұрын
RM Williams is absolutely horrible. I have two pairs, both their Yearling, both sucks. Mine were bought about 20 years ago, so poor quality started longer than you suggest. The leather crack. Really zero durability. And the last is not comfortable. I have the same Chelsea boots by John Lobb…way superior in every way.
@JasonBitman
@JasonBitman 2 ай бұрын
and about $2000 more lol
@sgroadie6367
@sgroadie6367 2 ай бұрын
@@JasonBitman not that much back in the day…but considerably more than the RM. I would rather save up and buy one pair of JL than three pairs of RM.
@sirneko2
@sirneko2 2 ай бұрын
Great video, I was about to buy some R.M.W. a few years ago to have a good dressing boot, but after some research got to the same conclusion than this video... I ended importing an American brand which you've actually reviewed in the past. I mean for the $400+ price range you've got way more options for quality
@queenslander954
@queenslander954 2 ай бұрын
Yea mate you’re spot on , Williams sold it way back in 1988 , when it stopped being stock-mans work clobber & then went back and forwards in ownership since to end up a fashion item for people driving Toorak Tractors around Double Bay in Sydney.
@harleywykes4971
@harleywykes4971 2 ай бұрын
Hello Rose Anvil, would you consider reviewing Loakes? They are basically a UK version of RM Williams and the royals wear them
@rarekid740
@rarekid740 2 ай бұрын
I've been asking him to have a look at any of the Northamptonshire brands for a while, would love to see Tricker's or C&J or Edward Green or any of the others. @Trickers-Shoes especiialy has a YT presence, I hope we get to see one here one day.
@richyclubsport5155
@richyclubsport5155 2 ай бұрын
Wrong I'm in the Northamptonshire borders, 20 miles from Loake Crockett and Jones and it's Trickers the royals buy, Trickers have the royal warrant. RM Williams are in the same price range as C and J and Trickers both are incredible quality, Loake 1880 made in England range are still decent but watch the others now outsourced to India and not particularly impressive.
@richyclubsport5155
@richyclubsport5155 2 ай бұрын
​@@rarekid740I own both C and J and Trickers quite simply the best a man can get in this price range and the video is correct, RM Williams are overpriced garbage nowadays
@rarekid740
@rarekid740 2 ай бұрын
@@richyclubsport5155 that's awesome, Tricker's are definitely aspirational for me. I watched the Stridewise factory tour and it made me appreciate them so much
@kart182
@kart182 2 ай бұрын
Fake leather is absolutely crazy
@mrbusto7
@mrbusto7 2 ай бұрын
The more I watch videos on this channel, the more I'm tempted to try making a boot for myself from scratch...
@peterhall6656
@peterhall6656 Ай бұрын
Aussie here. I started wearing RMs when I was at an agricultural high school in the 1960s. They were a great boot in those days. By the early 2000s I actually noticed that the leather was getting thinner and it would craze and crack in the toe flex area. I persisted for a bit but I and my family stopped buying about 20 years ago. We haven't gone back - I think the rot set in long before the private equity cockroaches got involved. It became a vanity product with a gouge price.
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