58MM Shocks on the SCX24 - HUGE FLEX - Review, Installation, Shock Setup & More!

[@CapeCrawlers]

Timestamps Close look and comparisons: 2:02 58mm shocks on the Monster Gladiator: 6:13 Install & setup on blue JT: 9:00 Gladiator articulation: 12:43 Course runs: 15:33 Final thoughts: 20:29

[@crisCR0SSaplsos]

Your videos and tips have been HUGE for my scx24 build. Thanks for all your videos!

[@CapeCrawlers]

So glad to hear! Thanks for watching!

[@HighDesertRCCrawlers]

I did this mod on my SCX24 "Punisher" build. What a difference and a lot of fun to drive. Thanks for mod!

[@andrewrichey7374]

That was a great articulation shot right there, yeah buddy we’re here watching

[@CapeCrawlers]

I’m so glad I built that section of the course the way I did. It is perfect for those crazy shots!

[@trailwomanrc]

CRazy! I might have got to 70 degrees. A single limiting strap in the center rear would allow max flex but also keep the body down. The axle would only drop half way but each side would still get full flex.

[@CapeCrawlers]

It’s nuts. I will do just that: single strap in the center, mimicking the front setup.

[@DominiKing86]

These would be great on the two big builds you have! 🤯

[@Nortesport]

I love the cross axle manoeuvres. Looks sick.

[@TrevorParkJones]

Man those things are crazy long! Maybe even too long. I might have to get some to try them out. Thanks for another great video Adam, take care!!!

[@CapeCrawlers]

They are outrageous! It’s worth trying just for the shock factor

[@justingere1824]

That gladiator with those long ass shocks is insane.

[@adamrodgers2377]

Well I just picked up my first SCX24 and I had to get that cool little 1967 Chevy C-10 😁 I also picked up some Brass Knuckles, Carbon Fiber Suspension Links a stronger Servo and Servo Mount and some Hot Racing Double Barrel Shocks. Also got some Proline Trencher on there Bead Locks and I got some JConcepts Tusks. I have quite a few 10th Scale but this is my first 24th Scale. I don't think it will be the last because my Daughter said she wants one and my Girlfriend also said she wants one, so looks like I am going to be busy for a minute 😂😂😂 thanks for your Videos they are a world of help, also you have a AWESOME name. 😁🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks for watching! Have fun going down the mini crawler rabbit hole!

[@adamrodgers2377]

@@CapeCrawlers I fell into that Rabbit Hole head first 🤣

[@joshschonfeld3675]

That flex is insane! Good job 👌🏼

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thank you! This one is still my all time favorite.

[@greggrube2948]

I think you accomplished what you were after Adam, max flex!! I love your how to videos, keep up the great work brother

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks! I agree, I think we’ve hit the ceiling!

[@ChrisHarmon1]

Real question is what is max needed in any scenario, but you also have to factor weight distribution since the more of an angle it sits at the more it'll wanna roll before reaching max deflection. Pretty interesting to see this portion of the hobby exploding right now. I believe the resulting development will be rapid initially.

[@CapeCrawlers]

Very insightful comment. When you say this portion of the hobby, are you referring to the mini crawlers in general, or the crazy flex we can get out of them?

[@andrewrichey7374]

Yeah not bad, wow she’s performing great dude

[@kevinmay33]

Try the spring trick on the rear it keeps the back end down ( stretch the springs over the top and bottom of the shock)

[@CapeCrawlers]

The spring mod! Yes I should try that. It’s a loooong stretch for the stock spring though

[@KPtain_RC]

Wow, awesome work. That's really massiv flex! I like it 👍 👍 👍

[@AddictRC]

Awesome video these shocks are sick and one thing I should tell you is at the beginning the audio and video was a bit out of sync but during axels (correct me if I’m wrong on the name) run footage it was perfect same for the rest of the video one thing if you put really skinny width tires I think it would flex even more I could be wrong though also you should do a tour of your workbench, crawling tables, and RC cars

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks! I caught that audio glitch. Not sure what happened during the upload but at least it was only one spot!

[@drakerestrepo6308]

Wow very nice build

[@cmororton]

Your setup is so cool. Love it

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thank you! It’s been such a fun project

[@Iowaprod]

Love you sons driving style!

[@CapeCrawlers]

Haha flat out, all the time!

[@sonorangaming449]

the dual spring is great. The spring bind from the 48s were real. Oh...collar bind. lol

[@CapeCrawlers]

Collar bind.. a whole new complication!

[@sonorangaming449]

@@CapeCrawlers that it is. In surprised powerhobby isn't making fcx24 parts yet.

[@mr.dillpickle]

Thanks for the awesome video on these! I'm planning to get a set for my comp rig when they are back in stock! They will be perfect, as I need the extra compressed length as well as the extra flex! Are they still holding up well? Man, my rig is going to look a ton like the Gladiator! Next mods planned are these shocks, Mini Komodo, RCAWD Portals and Swamp Kings!

[@CapeCrawlers]

They’re holding up great. Love them on the gladiator!

[@mr.dillpickle]

@@CapeCrawlers Awesome, thank you!

[@saleen12]

I love the idea of rc crawling, but I found out im too impatient and trigger happy to slow crawl. I basically gun it through everything and don't try to be realistic, but I still like watching

[@femboywithamiata]

that’s real asf 😭😭

[@mxgnification8203]

You can still have fun running crawler lines driving like that, that’s more of a rock bouncer driving style. I have an scx24 just for that type of driving, quick with the ability to slow crawl when you need it. Sometimes trigger happy can get you to hop over some lines that slow crawlers just can’t if you got your rig setup right, that’s where I have my fun. Kinda bash crawling lol.

[@ilucasplays2178]

You should make a full build video, I want mine to look like that someday 😂

[@CapeCrawlers]

I’ve got one from earlier in the year. I should do a new video though because a lot had changed and it’s a pretty frequent request.

[@RCHyperRacing]

Those shocks are insane. I’m gonna grab them and throw them on my Bronco.

[@CapeCrawlers]

They sure are and I love it! 🤣👍🏻

[@monahumada7535]

Did you have to get longer axles?

[@dennisrynders2261]

Awesome as always great work keep doing what you're doing the video's are awesome

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thank you, I appreciate that!

[@abudhabikid]

my guy! way to throw your weight around and influence the industry! does this make you an influencer?? :P are these super LT shocks the same length as the TRX-4m shock towers? congrats on your newfound power!

[@CapeCrawlers]

LOL making big waves in the micro market 🤣 the shocks are longer than the trx4m towers. I have another set of shocks on the way and I’m going to try to get them onto the trx4m bronco.

[@mushee1140]

Thank you

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks for watching!

[@mushee1140]

@@CapeCrawlers no problem

[@sidemotion]

What if you pulled the blades out of the rears? You think that would help?

[@556chase]

Great video. I’m building a power wagon. Is there a complete list of what you have in this build? I’m semi retired and don’t have the $$ for trial n error. Your build is what I’m looking for my Power wagon

[@ExtremeRcOffRoading]

Thats another level of flex 💪🏻. What do you think is the best performance wise scx24 shocks, 58mm?

[@CapeCrawlers]

I think it's more like 48mm. Even shorter if you want true all-around performance. I feel like getting into the 50+mm range the collapsed length of the shock starts to be an issue.

[@ExtremeRcOffRoading]

@@CapeCrawlers Thank you for sharing your insights! I appreciate your perspective on the shock length and the consideration of collapsed length. It’s always great to hear different viewpoints and experiences.

[@isaacmckerrow2528]

Amazing flex Adam i was wondering what flex blades you were using?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks! I am using the Mofo RC flexblades XR.

[@Game4Hours]

How are those scx24 portal axles? Any good

[@henrywood5462]

I’m gonna get some for my c10

[@CapeCrawlers]

They're huge, that C10 will flex to the moon!

[@henrywood5462]

@@CapeCrawlers yeah those PLUS the new rock lizard tires is gonna be CRAZY!

[@craigwideglide5669]

What drive shaft do you use? My Deadbolt front drive shaft is over extended. Could I use the next scx drive shaft for the front?

[@aceaweber8302]

Your cool dude you seem to have same kinda learning as me.. Nice vids... Great fam best of luck and keep going ... Smiles ..... Lika brother from another mother ! Lol much love .....

[@TwistedRCPower]

the flex on these are impressive! I just got my first crawler, trx4 traxx and I like it with the wheels, waiting for more snow to break in the traxx but these are cool. Maybe some wheel weights would help?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Those track setups are awesome! Wheel weights almost always help 👍🏻

[@Rc_Alex_76]

Nice flex thanks guy

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks for watching 💪🏻

[@svenbowsher2965]

How do I keep the correct angle for the rear differential? Is that shocks? My drive shafts keep popping.

[@Sizzingkosher]

Could you give full build on that blue jeep?👀

[@CapeCrawlers]

Yes, I will do an update video soon 👍🏻

[@wesleyrodda606]

Just tossing a thought out there. What about a swap to the 54mm in the rear with the flex plate you have on already to lower the overall length just a tad? Or even remove the mount and see if that takes a little rear lift out? 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thats a good suggestion. 54's with the flex blades would equal out to the front 58's, or close to it. I will try that!

[@wesleyrodda606]

@@CapeCrawlers interested in how the results differ and if there’s any noticeable change in the rear lift. just came to mind as you mentioned a possible rear limiter strap. I figured it’s a simple enough swap could be worth the test without the need to run one. you’re builds have made me so stoked to get 1/24 crawler and get it actual Moab ready 😅 As a moab local I appreciate the scale moab you’ve got 👌

[@WOLFTRAXRC]

This is the beezzz neezzz

[@CapeCrawlers]

🤣 thank you!

[@isaiahpersonett8275]

What motor do you suggest for a gladiator with just a little extra weight and bigger tires? I’m new to the 1/24 scale stuff and have no idea what to get

[@CapeCrawlers]

The LGRP reaper is a great motor. A good mix of speed, torque, and control. Mofo RC torque beast is also an excellent motor.

[@vapin_dub2898]

When you fully compressed them in hand was it the shock that was the limit? It looked like the spring was fully compressed against the preload ring

[@CapeCrawlers]

Yes it's the shock body itself that stops the compression

[@JamesWhite-np9bc]

Hey Cape Crawlers, this may have been answered somewhere and I missed it, but do you use stock drive shafts for your builds? How do you keep them from falling out when flexxed out? Love your videos man! It's what got me into 24th scale crawlers!

[@keldonator]

I think using the old shock top would have been nice to get rid of that bulky faux expansion chamber. Looks sweet though, I want to do this to my fcx24.

[@blaismerchant8582]

Lmk how that's gone because I've not seen any shocks specifically for the fcx24 over 48mm

[@ProKfir]

The shocks are almost not doing anything at these angles, except, the springs are providing some support to the weight of the chassis when the thing is on level ground. They possibly limit travel when fully articulated. Have you tried to run it without shocks at all? I'd be curious to see how it behaves. You might be better off setting up the shocks/springs to just rest on the axles on compression without being connected to them... 😈

[@turboslug3]

I put mine on and the driveshaft keeps coming apart how would you guys fix this

[@hianboy6608]

Hi there, do you know how to remove the pivot ball from the shock eyelet? Thanks much!

[@erinyorke6774]

You have to remove the O ring to take them out

[@NoTractionRC]

Would you get anymore flex if you put the lgrp 8mmplus axles

[@CapeCrawlers]

Possibly. The track would just be wider and the wheels would clear the body better which may help.

[@bamaman6985]

What do you do to keep the front drive shaft from coming out with the long travel shocks?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Limiting straps. Check out the LGRP limiting strap setup.

[@urdonercjeremyburris7541]

What is the point in portals with the portal boxes hanging out there

[@CapeCrawlers]

You can drive knowing that directly underneath you is big clearance. The portal boxes and c hubs don’t hang up as bad as you would think, but it’s still always a potential snagging point. I’m still happy with them 👍🏻

[@chadyarbrough3640]

Great video as usual Adam, what about your wheel and tire set up? Finally went and got a new project, a blue Gladiator!

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks! The wheels are Mofo RC UPW and the tires are LGRP swamp kings

[@Totallynotkaze]

Have you tested them on a trx4m? If I do get these, then would running them upside down be good in the trx4m? I’m arguing between these and the injora 58mm, give me your choice! (By the way if you do read this, love your vids man, you were the reason I got into rc crawlers and trx4m’s 😊)

[@Mcgrewrcs]

What drive lines do you use so they don’t drop out on the gladiator

[@CapeCrawlers]

I use Injora shafts but its the limiting strap setup that keeps them from falling out. LGRP makes a good setup for the front. The rear I just position the shocks so they can extend but not so far that the shaft disconnects.

[@christopherduby5330]

Do you have a video that describes all the parts you have used in this build? I'm interested in doing this to my jeep crawler. Its stock. My daughter loves them. She would be so happy to build it up like the blue gladiator you have

[@CapeCrawlers]

I have an older build video that’s pretty comprehensive. The build list is in the description: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3Kqh6KgqLN0msU I will do an update video soon!

[@DadsRCGaragePNW]

100th like!!!! lets gooo!!! digging those shocks!!!

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks! The shocks are epic

[@jlynn1908]

you should put lights on the gladiator?

[@CapeCrawlers]

I should! There are some halo headlights floating around I would love to try.

[@jdmplus2091]

Any word on a restock date for these shocks?

[@CapeCrawlers]

I havent heard anything unfortunately.

[@americandeadhead5025]

That's rad! When you were compressing the springs the long one bowed and put tension on that collar in the middle. Cool idea they had but just isn't functional. Basically at this point is it just the body that's original.

[@CapeCrawlers]

The dual springs isn't super practical, you're right there. And yes, there isn't much left of this rig that's stock except for frame rails and body.

[@TasosX]

Great video my friend. 58 mm great idea. It is possible to fill those with oil?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks! No, I don't think so. There are no o-rings inside the body so I think they would just leak everywhere.

[@TasosX]

@@CapeCrawlers Ok thank you

[@TopNotchkreations]

Sheeesh !that’s nice !

[@CapeCrawlers]

Flex for days!!!

[@Flowyz-n5k]

@CapeCrawlers , i just got a scx24 blue gladiator and been doing a bunch of mods like high clearance links, wheels and tires etc but i just got the powerhobby shocks 58mm and i remember in your video that you were surprised that you didn't lose your drive shaft but i do lose my front drive shaft, please let me know what i can do to fix that!!!

[@CapeCrawlers]

Grab a limiting strap setup. I use the LGRP kit 👍🏻

[@Flowyz-n5k]

@@CapeCrawlers thank you!

[@brentalumbaugh8904]

Have you thought about trying these on the trx4m. I know there shorter over all but if they were frame mounted would they provide more travel than stock?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Yes, I’ve got a black set on its way for that exact reason! I’ll do a bronco update once I get them on.

[@GrowthBeyondVision]

Great video, much appreciated. Will those work for the new TRX4m?...I'm looking to get more travel/articulation out of my bronco. Thanks

[@CapeCrawlers]

They will with some work. If you check out my TRX4M upgrade videos you can see how I got them to work

[@drakegivens2451]

You are my favorite mini crawler guy but you should do a only crawling video

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thank you! Just a pure crawling video? I can do that

[@JP-qq2kn]

Can these shocks be used with the lower spring removed so that it droops down and rides on the upper spring?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Yes, thats how I run them on my sons gladiator and it works pretty well.

[@JP-qq2kn]

@Cape Crawlers Sorry, stopped watching and left for work before getting to that part of the video lol. I just ordered an fcx24, beadlock wheels, tires, steering links and the 58mm shocks. I was a little worried about the driveshafts falling out from too much extention with the 58mm ones.. is that an issue with these? I know it's an issue on my RGT v2 and 48mm DB shocks. Gotta use limiting rubber bands.

[@andrewcutright5591]

Can you put up a build sheet

[@mmiiuygivk2651]

I always wondered if you could just run limit straps instead of shocks since your not really using the springiness of them, that said I don't know what I'm talking about, just a though I guess. Loved the video!

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thanks for watching! I've been asked that before. The benefit to the shocks is that they keep the axle straight. With just limiting straps I think it would be too floppy and you would have linkage binding and driveshaft loss due to horizontal movement. The shocks are stabilizing limiting straps essentially.

[@quentinsilas5912]

Do you think I could run these on my comp style FCX24 to improve flex?

[@CapeCrawlers]

I would look at the 59mm oil shocks from Injora, I think those would be better for the FCX24

[@quentinsilas5912]

Do you think the FCX24 would hold a drive shaft in with the 59mm shocks? I’m running the grasshopper chassis kit

[@kmattlong]

Do you have any issues with the front driveshaft popping out? I have pretty close to the same setup and my front driveshaft just isn't quite long enough and likes to separate.

[@CapeCrawlers]

I use a limiting strap to control the driveshaft. LGRP makes a great one: littleguyracingparts.com/products/lgrp-brass-limit-strap?variant=44997674893624&currency=USD&gad=1

[@soyelpohwey2475]

what that little thing that 58mm have and other ones doesnt?

[@philsonnenberg6092]

Are you running portals are the Blue Glad? If yes. which brand? Shocks looks pretty nice!

[@CapeCrawlers]

Yes, rcawd brand. Love them!

[@xthesut]

Awesome!!

[@CapeCrawlers]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@3uttery580]

Does anyone know if this suspension setup is possible on a scx10III? i cant find anything even similar to this but i want to test the limits.

[@yoandrygarcia8856]

Can I get that same flex with does shocks with the stock frame or should I upgrade the frame?

[@CapeCrawlers]

I'm running the stock frame on the gladiator. No need to change the chassis if you don't want to!

[@chrisbrown2166]

Just bought these I’m having binding issues with flex blades. They are angled too much. What am I doing wrong

[@CapeCrawlers]

Did you use the shock spacers that came with the flex extensions? I have to use those to bump the shock away from the frame and reduce that angle.

[@chrisbrown2166]

@@CapeCrawlers yea I put them on the chassis With the shock resi on the bottom. As you did. Ended up flipping the shocks upright and removing o rings On each end May of been the flex blades I bought. Not sure

[@mikeinvegas1]

How would these work on a furitek scythe v2?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Yep they would work

[@lukeaugust597]

How is your setup so wide and i cant find these 58mm shocks ... how are you able to do any inclines with the front end drooping that much as i have the same rig almost the same exact setup and im unable to really go on much of inclines and i have 54mm shocks with high clearance links with 4 link up front and nylon portal axles with trusses they are +4mm as well as +5mm spacers with brass wheels and i still dont feel wide enough help please !?!

[@CapeCrawlers]

I run +5mm treal hex extensions on top of the portals plus the wheels have 3mm extended hubs. As for the incline, I use rubber bands for limiting straps up front. It controls the front end lift and allows for good climbing.

[@EriMCardenasRC]

The shocks come oil filled already?

[@CapeCrawlers]

They do not. They’re friction damped, no oil recommended

[@silverbulletJKU]

I’m looking for a set of those 54’s right now but all their barrels are silver and not black like yours. Is this a new version that they’re selling or were your 54’s modified to run black barrels?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Interesting. It must be a new version as I did not modify mine.

[@silverbulletJKU]

@@CapeCrawlers thank you for the quick reply! Can’t wait to order my set. I greatly appreciate you clearing that up for me.

[@jamiemeraw3282]

👀👀 I recently got scx24 bronco what do I need for that flex set up great job bro 👊

[@CapeCrawlers]

Check out my five tips for max flex video! My best advice in one vid.

[@sammiller8497]

Cool vid Adam , does anyone make long travel shocks for fcx24?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Not this long. Rcawd makes shocks but they’re not much longer than stock. The scx24 shocks will fit if you remove the pivot ball hardware and just let the shock pivot on the bolt.

[@ruthierobbins643]

What tires do you have on the truck?

[@CapeCrawlers]

LGRP swamp kings

[@tabarnakdecris6917]

is it possible to tune the bronco scx24 a this point?

[@CapeCrawlers]

I think you could. The body is the limiting factor on the bronco, so if you trimmed it enough, or made your axles wide enough to clear the body, it could flex like this I think.

[@robfairbank650]

If I remember you run the trail kings on your gladiator but I keep hearing you say you run a bigger tire is there a way you can reply with a link?

[@CapeCrawlers]

DJcrawler recently released a 68mm tire that I’m experimenting with: www.amazon.com/Super-Sticky-Wheel-Crawler-Upgrade/dp/B0C6XXYMJ8/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=djcrawler+1.0&qid=1688352413&sr=8-3

[@robfairbank650]

@@CapeCrawlers isn't that what was on the flatbed truck?

[@FBO305]

Would they work on trx-4m

[@CapeCrawlers]

Yes! If you take the pivot ball hardware out you can run the larger trx4m bolts through them and they’ll work

[@davejollie1574]

What links are you running, my links wont even allow that much flex?

[@WingNutRC]

"This has got to be the limit....." How 'bout cutting your frame so there's a front and back section boxed in. Then put a pivot point in between the two sections........Maybe???

[@CapeCrawlers]

I like the way you think!

[@LARANUD]

Can the shocks fit on to a trx4m

[@CapeCrawlers]

Yes they can with a little bit of work.

[@rosabeltran6399]

so cool

[@CapeCrawlers]

Thank you!

[@RCCrawlerz209]

Sheeeesh...I got the 54s...now 58s? Gollee! 🤦🏼‍♂️ Not sure if I'll upgrade to 58s now. Lol

[@CapeCrawlers]

I think 54mm is the max of practicality. You can see how long these are at compressed length. They are just too big unless you are not concerned with chassis lift that is.

[@RCCrawlerz209]

@@CapeCrawlers That's true.

[@DurpVonFronz]

Hey man, have you heard of the RedCat Danchee yet? Its like the same price as scx24's and would be awesome for the little man. 1/10th rock crawler that comes with 4 wheel steering, motors on the axle so its really low cg. The twist on your Glad reminded me of it, its like that outta the box!! Super under rated Rc I gotta say. :)

[@CapeCrawlers]

Yes! I saw one all twisted up at my local shop and fell in love with it! I'm thinking about getting Axel one for Christmas. And by him, I mean me LOL

[@Drift680]

Adam I hate to break it to you I doubt you can get anymore flex but it wouldn't be a shock (no pun intended) if you managed to somehow get more then 90 degrees of flex

[@CapeCrawlers]

I will keep tinkering! But I fear you are correct and that the gladiator has reached capacity.

[@southbound_rc]

How much does this thing weigh?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Around 650g

[@rampagepr3524]

I want to see flex videos from the trx4m bronco.

[@CapeCrawlers]

You got it!

[@rampagepr3524]

I want to buy the longest shock to have maximum flex without lifting the chasis, I’m planning on running it like you without the spring , what you recommend?

[@CapeCrawlers]

@@rampagepr3524 the 48mm shocks. Hot racing or powerhobby make good ones. Hot racing being my preference.

[@rampagepr3524]

Thank you

[@killrroyale]

OK, is there anything that challenges that crawler.

[@CapeCrawlers]

Not much anymore!

[@Papa_Shorty]

I thought I was happy with the flex I have.

[@CapeCrawlers]

There's always more!

[@aaronellison4107]

How much to buy that from you

[@CapeCrawlers]

Oh man, I can’t sell my little blue baby!

[@farmboyrc]

you're out of flex but how bout width?

[@CapeCrawlers]

Oh boy, it could go wider I suppose but it already is freakishly wide. Any more and it would look like a mini basher 🤣