As said in the comments, MKBHD was speaking to the base model with the M2 Pro chip. It’s still nuts what a base M2 model can do though. A $599 Apple machine can run pro level projects. 🤯
@Mr_Kenneth2 жыл бұрын
It needs a lot more memory than 8gb. 32gb min for video - especially Adobe premiere
@teo__2 жыл бұрын
@@Mr_Kenneth I've delivered a one hour timeline with 9 cinema cameras shooting RAW and noise reduction that have been broadcasted in half of the world with a base 8GB of RAM M1 mac mini, no issues. The internal SSD is faster that a 10 years old RAM, so it compensates the lack of RAM on bigger projects. They say the SSD could get damaged using it this way on the long run, but I could trash a Mac Mini every year and still it would pay for itself...
@BlingJ.2 жыл бұрын
now thats what a real test looks like everyone says ooo m1 crushed intel lmao when you editing full fledge work effects and noise reduction mac apple cries in corner and intel laughs silently
@The-Weekend-Warrior Жыл бұрын
@@BlingJ. stop repeating your nonsense. Read my reply to this same comment in the thread above.
@bassyey Жыл бұрын
@@teo__ It's always people who don't have professional experience obesessing over specs. They can't finish any project and just spends money on tools they never use.
@Jungkith2 жыл бұрын
I think MKBHD was referring to the M2 PRO mac mini bc it’s the one he have
@Techranium2 жыл бұрын
MKBHD wqs referring to base model. He is doing it with $13000 one.. :)
@THOMASTAYIMOEHL2 жыл бұрын
You're right. He has the pro one
@willy79682 жыл бұрын
My M1 Macbook Pro 13’ SSD speed reads 2500mb/s … I am surprised the 256gb version is about 1,000mbps, mine is 512gb
@Jungkith2 жыл бұрын
@@Techranium no he wasn’t he was referring to the one he has he even showed the name on screen m2 pro and it almost has double the benchmark of the mac pro
@AAPECREW2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@MACBoricua2 жыл бұрын
Yes Marques is referring to the Mac Mini with the M2 Pro chip which is entregue el with 512 GB storage, which gives two storage elements that may not slow down speeds as as the base M2 chip one
@DennisSchmitz2 жыл бұрын
Yep
@batmanonabike31192 жыл бұрын
Don't you need a gig to get two ssd chips? Or is that just on the new macbooks?
@batmanonabike31192 жыл бұрын
@Native or paging, or anything else that makes a lot of disk activity
@BlingJ.2 жыл бұрын
now thats what a real test looks like everyone says ooo m1 crushed intel lmao when you editing full fledge work effects and noise reduction mac apple cries in corner and intel laughs silently
@NorthernWhisper2 жыл бұрын
The best video on the M2 mini so far. Great work.
@andrewsimper2 жыл бұрын
The Mac Pro in the video in the video is not the base model, it has 2 graphics cards, a 5700X and a 580X, both of which add up to 16.6 tflops. The current base model Mac Pro has a 5500X which is 5.6 tflops, which is a lot more in line with the m2 mac mini at 3.6 tflops of maximum theoretical f32 gpu compute. Blackmagic RAW and de-noising are parallel tasks shared on the cpu and gpu, but the gpu will do most of the heavy lifting.
@kojopimp2 жыл бұрын
that shows you How you Can Configure your own system when and however you want to, instead of the manufacturer dictating for you which is not even Upgradable
@rjakiel732 жыл бұрын
@@kojopimpbut it’s also not comparing what he said he was comparing. Base model Mac Pro w/ factory GPU and factory drive. That’s like saying I am going to compare my new base model Ferrari 458 to my older Ferrari 512TR that I added twin sequential turbo chargers and a 400hp nitrous shot to.
@kojopimp2 жыл бұрын
@@rjakiel73 totally understand you but my point is that Apple Restraints you from Performing the Basic Upgrades yourself and for the Facts that you have to configure your system once till the End of the Products life unacceptable for Me.
@10p62 жыл бұрын
Something is wrong with the disk speed too. My 2020 MBA M1 has constant read / write speed of over 3000 MBps.
@ernestoditerribile2 жыл бұрын
@@10p6he has chosen the smallest SSD. So only 1 chip is is used instead of all 4 if he hadn’t cheaped OUT
@rodneyturnerphoto2 жыл бұрын
The crazy thing is the M-series hardware is still new and performing great. I can only imagine 5 years from now what can be done in professional environments. SSDs and RAM getting faster along with optimized software. Great video.
@odalv72782 жыл бұрын
we'll talking 100+ cores then
@BlingJ.2 жыл бұрын
now thats what a real test looks like everyone says ooo m1 crushed intel lmao when you editing full fledge work effects and noise reduction mac apple cries in corner and intel laughs silently
@rodneyturnerphoto2 жыл бұрын
@@BlingJ. there’s some truth to it, but the power draw from Intel is way higher. I’m all for competition.
@Burbie Жыл бұрын
do u think as a beginner editor with 1080p projects mostly , is the mac mini M2 worth it for the price
@Mr.BobsDog2 жыл бұрын
2:35 no one tell him the M2 Mac Mini 512GB+ versions have much faster SSD performance than base M2 Mac Mini 😂
@JohnFultonCGL2 жыл бұрын
I was actually almost compelled to try one out. Such a big difference between expectations and real life
@BlingJ.2 жыл бұрын
now thats what a real test looks like everyone says ooo m1 crushed intel lmao when you editing full fledge work effects and noise reduction mac apple cries in corner and intel laughs silently
@iocomposer2 жыл бұрын
Yeah man. I feel ya. I have the 28-core Mac Pro and just got one of the M2 Pro Minis for a rig to take with me and it's hard to believe that the performance is even close at the price point but the thing is, I love my Mac Pro for my daily pro work, I can do what I need to on it reliably and it's not going anywhere any time soon. Best of all worlds for me.
@arranpbrown2 жыл бұрын
Hey man, great video! Just a note about Fusion clips causing errors in rendering in DaVinci that you mentioned on the M1/M2 machines - I’ve found that if you Render in Place Fusion clips before you render out the project then you don’t have those error issues for whatever reason. Might be worth trying, because it was driving me insane until I figured that out and wasted a load of time with failed renders. Cheers.
@initialfocus2 жыл бұрын
100% this is the fix! I normally do that. Since I had this project open on 3 computers and was running a bunch of tests I forgot to do that so I just disabled the text clip on the 3 machines to ignore the issue lol but yes great tip! 🙌🏼
@arranpbrown2 жыл бұрын
@@initialfocus Haha, nice one - glad you figured it out yourself anyway, it was such a pain!
@jontramel40032 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Thank you.
@BlingJ.2 жыл бұрын
now thats what a real test looks like everyone says ooo m1 crushed intel lmao when you editing full fledge work effects and noise reduction mac apple cries in corner and intel laughs silently
@matthewhuber86972 жыл бұрын
Michael you’re channel is so high quality! Keep up the good work 😁
@jimjimbot2 жыл бұрын
I laugh so hard when "The Camera Died" shows up :D thanks for the time you spent! at least on practical situation, on paper specs really can't show the real world use case.
@offwhitemke2 жыл бұрын
Getting a MacBook Pro to be portable and do edits then a Mac mini to do renders (however long it takes) might be a good combo at a fraction of the price of the Mac Pro. I’d like to know if an external SSD could make the render go much faster. That seems to be a major factor.
@Krell6662 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see how the mini goes if it had more RAM, 8GB is just not enough really.
@bxkxhxkg822 жыл бұрын
Thats the point, Apple does that so u Buy the 16gb variant
@JoeyVictorVideos2 жыл бұрын
I went from 16gb ram on an Intel Mac mini to 8gb ram on a M2 Mac mini and I’m good.
@BlingJ.2 жыл бұрын
now thats what a real test looks like everyone says ooo m1 crushed intel lmao when you editing full fledge work effects and noise reduction mac apple cries in corner and intel laughs silently
@sebasfilmedit2 жыл бұрын
Bro amazing video! Got so much valuable information from this comparison and definitely am now leaning towards the mac mini over the macbook pro. I am a beginner editor and first time buyer of these products. You’re amazing!
@timogronroos46422 жыл бұрын
You have the wrong question if you're comparing MacBook Pro and Mac mini on performance. The right question is, do you need the portability of a Macbook with battery and screen, or do you work in a fixed location. Performance is almost the same.
@robertmarsh13382 жыл бұрын
The comparison uses an old M1 MacBook, not an m1 pro. They should all perform similarly
@Aloxcs2 жыл бұрын
Bro, you have a problem with the ssd of your m1 MacBook. My MacBook Air M1 with 512 ssd have 2800 w/r speed. And all the test of m1 outperform the ssd of m2.
@eddymaddix17862 жыл бұрын
Marques' video title is "M2 Pro Mac Mini Review". Apart from your Mac Pro not being the base machine, you are not comparing it with what he was talking about.
@Steezey75 ай бұрын
Yeah I got confused. I wanted to see mac mini versus base mac pro, not a tricked out mac pro..
@clintcompose2 жыл бұрын
Link to that editing hard drive ?
@chriss22952 жыл бұрын
GPU is the biggest factor? I'm mainly Apple but run Resolve on a Windows PC with Nvidia 3080Ti and it is the fastest system by far. Cheap M.2 SSDs run at 5-7k/MBs. Miss MacOS but the Windows rig is so fast for so little money.
@DVTOM Жыл бұрын
wasn't the point Base vs base models?
@RaufAbasquliyev2 жыл бұрын
MKBHD was talking about M2 PRO model, not M2. There's a big difference between two.
@FrameVoyager2 жыл бұрын
Oh I saw that square monitor there for you setup. How do you like that? I've been thinking about getting one
@geoff47052 жыл бұрын
Fabulous reviews and real-world comparisons! Many thanks!
@meropealcyone2 ай бұрын
Might be interesting to update with a base M4 comparison. And if you decide to get one, you could use the Pro as a table for it! 😉
@paulwharton18502 жыл бұрын
Most interesting video - I learnt a lot. Many thanks....all the way from London !
@waynelast1685 Жыл бұрын
Your Mac Pro works well because of the fast drives?
@kevincrinklaw7422 Жыл бұрын
"Engineers, figure it out, I don't know" FFS you sound like my project managers... lol
@initialfocus Жыл бұрын
😂😂 sorry to trigger that!
@Ranger7Studios2 жыл бұрын
Great revue man! A real test of the capabilities between the different models.
@lasseparkkila Жыл бұрын
My MacBook M1 Pro opens Resolve 18 project from scratch in 13,5sek. I can't fugure out why there is such a big difference comparing to this videos opening times.
@joeclarke1232 жыл бұрын
Can I see the actual video that’s in the editor? Looks like a good short film
@jimmycheak2 жыл бұрын
Finally. A real expert talking of something he clearly knows about.
@waynelast1685 Жыл бұрын
Did you find any loud fan noises during heavy video processing?
@TroyRubert2 жыл бұрын
The first 15 seconds got me to sub. Love this style of testing.
@joshbartonАй бұрын
What monitor mount are you using? I love how they are stacked and the bottom monitor is angled.
@ReviewswBryz2 жыл бұрын
Watching Videos of things I don't even own is Crazy 🤣🔥
@ma_lf_2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, full day director editor here still using the trash can and switching soon and this helps !!! Real life scenario. Cheers,
@CoinedSpirit2 жыл бұрын
Great video - especially on your internal work drive(s) and overall benchmarks. We use the Mac Pro w/ dual Radeon Pro W6900X and a 12-core Mac Mini M2 Pro w/32GB RAM, 512GB SSD, and 10Gb Ethernet for our multimedia beasts. For most daily tasks and overall budget cost, the Mac Mini M2 Pro is a heck of a deal.
@GeekTherapyRadio2 жыл бұрын
I've never seen read/write speeds that low on my 8GB M1 MBP. Full disclosure though, I use one Samsung T7 for project files, and another for cache/scratch. The SSD in my M1 only holds DR and other applications.
@FuZZbaLLbee2 жыл бұрын
Can you connect multiple M2 computers and let each of them render a part?
@ClayArnall2 жыл бұрын
Wow, 5 min export, I want that in my life! That was a good test.
@ClayArnall2 жыл бұрын
Now I wonder how the M2 Pro does. I think the key for me is to find a machine that will play back real time with effects on like NR or Beauty filter. I cant' decide if it's best to wait for an M2 Mac studio.
@Only1Science2 жыл бұрын
I clicked "subscribe" at the very moment the camera died! LOL I thought I broke the channel. LOL
@peetairsh2 жыл бұрын
finally a proper real life test and not just render speeds.
@MrGamaitachi2 жыл бұрын
Disk speed - no, M1 SSD speeds are actually higher than M2 due to the single NAND-chip used in some M2 models (your included). Must be something with your MacBook.
@Mshorts922 жыл бұрын
Agreed in every test I saw the m1 base models ssd was always better than the m2 256 gb ssds
@arhitectura.din.România2 жыл бұрын
Great work and very smart vlog!
@vishal_trivedi2 жыл бұрын
It’s nice to hear your perspective, thanks for the video
@MasterinGuitars2 жыл бұрын
THAT INTRO!
@curbyourshi10562 жыл бұрын
Would be amazing to see the same tests done with an un-tricked out Mac Pro.
@thekylenovak Жыл бұрын
What drives are all these projects running off of? The desktop drives that you speed tested? Rendering and playback out of resolve depends heavily on the speed of the drive to an extent. If everything on the macpro was running off of your 5000MBs card then yeah, its not gonna bottleneck.
@CreativeMindEnt2 жыл бұрын
I love your monitor arrangement. I edit with 3 32inch screens currently and have them in a side by side layout. I may have to try yours out. As for the video, fantastic work. That mini might actually be a replacement for my 6,1. I still want to see what the new Pro will offer though.
@ggproductions70782 жыл бұрын
I have mine in the same was as his and didn't realise it was a thing for anyone else. I first saw the angled monitor in a recording studio set up and thought mmm, that's interesting and have tried to go back but nope, if your desk is deep enough it is def the way forward. It is like having a huge laptop in front of you, easier to see the bottom row of tracks or interface, just feels much more as if you are a part of it. I don't have the same size as yours though. I have a 27" for the lower one which is fine as I am practically on top of it, have my 24" ultrafine at the top as the clean feed/colour screen and a little 24" in portrait for the other bits and bobs. I have quite a small desk space as I do everything from home so it completely makes great use of the space.
@CreativeMindEnt2 жыл бұрын
@@ggproductions7078 yeah I’m wondering if 32’s will work with this setup. I’m going to give it a go none the less.
@brucekennedy52742 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I don’t need all that, but it does look super cool, completely tailored setup.
@ggproductions70782 жыл бұрын
@@CreativeMindEnt oh definitley do, if you have the room its great.
@M_E_T_R_O__9 Жыл бұрын
Is the m2 better than the MAC STUDIO M1 MAX??
@BranislavMihajlovic-pn1rs Жыл бұрын
what specs does the mac mini m2 you tested have?
@BrogenDavis33 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this! The is is what I needed to know! Don’t like the long exports… and every video was only sample clips! ❤❤❤
@Jisooee2 жыл бұрын
Yes I've been waiting for the da vinci resolve m2 mac mini review
@1978Bluetone Жыл бұрын
Great video, one of only two videos I've found that presents a real experience with the Mac mini and doesn't just throw the same benchmark scores at me as if it means much. These types of videos always help with the main question you should ask yourself when you buy a computer... "what do I want it to do?". I've been looking at a Mini pro to replace an ageing MBP, most of my work is remoting into facilities, but want a little extra headroom so I can do some basic stuff locally, this answered a lot of my thoughts, thank you.
@a.f.johnston6753 Жыл бұрын
I bought the M2 Pro in 2023, w/32 gb, and I feel like I should have gone up to 64gb. I am debating whether or not to get Davinci Resolve, but was a bit worried it wouldn't work very well.
@1978Bluetone Жыл бұрын
@@a.f.johnston6753 I’ve got the 32gb one, I believe that’s the maximum. I was a little gutted that the new Mac Studio came out, I was swayed a bit by rumours of a Studio delay until next year. But so far I’m very happy, although I’ve not used it for much beyond a bit of photo editing and remote video editing, so nothing local. I think a little expensive for what it is, but it’s still my most satisfying Mac buy since my G4 PowerBook 20 years or so ago.
@scottmh11 ай бұрын
What GPU do you have in there? All effects and especially color grade makes use of the GPU mostly
@10p62 жыл бұрын
Something is wrong with your tests. My 2020 M1 MBA gets over 3200 MBps with reads and writes.
@Juergkrebs2 жыл бұрын
A little chaotic testing setup- different Screen Sizes- that will mess up all comparison.
@audiotech34032 жыл бұрын
This was a great side-by-side review. Thank you
@robwoolley2 жыл бұрын
THAT was a fascinating video, thank you very much!!
@alimugeni53572 жыл бұрын
The Mac Pro isn’t using its apple Drives SSDs, will like to see you running the test again on the apple SSD, since we’re comparing what you get from apple when you buy the base model with no changes
@rph_redacted2 жыл бұрын
True but also, you most likely won't use stock SSD if you're getting a mac pro.. you're gonna edit terra bytes of files and most ( almost everyone ) will use external drives.
@jondonnelly32 жыл бұрын
You seen the price of nvmes now? why would you NOT do the upgrade.
@crucialstogie2 жыл бұрын
@@jondonnelly3 Probably for the same reason that when I buy a new car I don't want to have to take it directly to the mechanic. "YeAh bUT hAvE YouSeEN hIS lOw PrIcES?"
@rodriguetoglo2 жыл бұрын
This isn't at all, what Mkbhd was referring to. He showed m2pro. This video is featuring the base model with regular m2
@waynelast1685 Жыл бұрын
Why did the Mac pro export faster?
@midiacstudio Жыл бұрын
Good presentation, very well done!
@Ricardo_Rosa2 ай бұрын
Are you running those files full size or with proxies?
@do17n602 жыл бұрын
Awesome 👌 Review, thank you for your time and effort.
@alphaandomegaproductions50732 жыл бұрын
Just did a disk speed test (Blackmagic Speed Test) on my M1 MacBook Pro 13" 2020 and got 2800MB Read and Write speeds. Definitely something weird with your speed test results, even on the Mac Mini. Your disk speeds should be much faster. Oh, and my 13" MacBook Pro has 16GB or memory and a 1TB SSD. Don't know if that makes a difference.
@meismailshaikh2 жыл бұрын
Yes I did the same and got around 2600MB read and write, there is something wrong for sure.
@richarddcrossley2 жыл бұрын
Similar and I just have the base 256GB M1 Pro
@zooloo732 жыл бұрын
I saw a comment mentioning the base SSD is half the speed of larger models.
@richarddcrossley2 жыл бұрын
@@zooloo73 it is on the M2 base models but literally just ran black magic on my M1 and I get 2200 write and 2900 read on the 256GB. There must have been something running in the background as those are the sort of speeds you get if running it as your machine boots up.
@JesseShauffer2 жыл бұрын
The base is half the speed. 8 gigs of ram is also a joke. Never get the base from Apple ever.
@TheFirstMikeJones Жыл бұрын
What GPU do you have in your 7.1
@brucekennedy52742 жыл бұрын
Great video. They are such different beasts. Like the Mac mini is great little delivery van, while the Mac Pro is an 18wheeler.
@gametime24732 жыл бұрын
It's so weird, I have watched several other videos and their experience was the opposite. You seem to be straightforward and unbiased. It's puzzling. Great video BTW, you put a lot of work into this. On a side note, I don't use a PC that isn't a workstation with ECC ram and xeons. They are so rock solid. I don't think I have ever crashed on my z620 HP in 6 years.
@initialfocus2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately there’s a lot of variables at play. For example the type of footage everyone uses. I film in BRAW which is an amazing optimized for resolve on almost any computer. But I’m sure if I was editing idk Sony 4K h.265 footage my Mac Pro May struggle more because the new m chips are better at h.265 stuff. But thank you, I definitely have no bias. Both computers are incredible in their own way. I just find it so fun to test out.
@nadamuchu Жыл бұрын
Do you have a video that explains your setup a bit more? does having the lower monitor really help with ergonomics - or is it a very specific use case?
@ArthurLagoArthurLago2 жыл бұрын
Can you put 2 monitors through the Thunderbolt and one for the hdmi?
@RobertHazelriggTheGraphicsGuy2 жыл бұрын
what is the name of the movie and where can I see it?
@parallelarchitecturalgroup2 жыл бұрын
@Michaeltobin. ok. what cha got?
@thebusinessfirm98622 жыл бұрын
Great review, mate.
@IslandDigital Жыл бұрын
Very simply , I’m a Drummer looking to make multicam (4 cams) video using Resolve with an ATEM MINI PRO ISO . My question is if I buy the new 2023 Mac Mini M2 , will this be enough computer to make these videos. They will be no more than 6 min videos and the audio will be premixed through a X32 digital console , so audio has no part in this . Thanks
@rocheuro2 жыл бұрын
the real question is is it m2 much more prone to pushing to the limit than original M1 - as meny youtuber mention ? I heared that when you open 2 or 3 apps then M2 is getting really slow and bussy compared to old M1 - both base 8GB versions.
@JDFloyd2 жыл бұрын
The best thing Apple could do is make an announcement that the M-series Mac Pro is actually a new mother board with Mac silicon on it, that can be user replaced on the 2019 Mac Pro.
@initialfocus2 жыл бұрын
My day would be made. Sure it would probably cost like $5k just for the upgrade but it’d be nice knowing it was at least an option
@JDFloyd2 жыл бұрын
@@initialfocus - I may well be wrong, but the interesting delay, and "cone of silence" on Apple's part, just makes me want to believe this is an option.
@brandonl92862 жыл бұрын
I would love to see an M2 Pro or Max machine running the same test to see what the improvement is. Someone who works on projects at that level, will likely purchase a Max or Ultra chip rather than a base model.
@rodneydangerfield71532 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Michael, for the illuminating video!...Feel your pain as a 2019 Mac Pro owner!...LOL
@spodee55 Жыл бұрын
Can you link to the duster vacuum thing at 39 seconds?
@MACBoricua2 жыл бұрын
Well you are using external drive? No wonder there is no comparison…. But I think speeds will depend on what user will do
@M_E_T_R_O__9 Жыл бұрын
hey love your setup, is that a square display on the left? if so whats the model? thanks
@johnpeterson72642 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this . This is very helpful !
@ken1w Жыл бұрын
Great comparison based on real world usage, not benchmarks and simplified workflow. I have M1-nothing 13-inch MacBook Pro, purchased a few months before M2, super deal with 1TB and 16GB. I almost bought a Mac mini but glad got a MacBook because the best Apple Silicon feature is how long a single battery charge lasts. I use my MacBook completely unplugged most of the time, like an iPad. With every other laptop I’ve used before (Mac or PC), it’s mobile for transport but stationary when using because I usually plugged it to power. And its performance way more that good enough for the “not pro” stuff I do. I even like the Touch Bar now and learned to be efficient with single smaller screen. Glad your Mac Pro (last Intel Mac in lineup) has “time is money” benefits in the real world.
@pbrigham2 жыл бұрын
So funny seeing you trying to alleviate yours buyers remorse :), but in the end you know that a good M2Pro mini with a 32GB memory and a 1TB SSD can do better than the your old MacPro, and as a bonus you can almost carry it in your pocket and save a bit also in electric bills.
@chandie52988 ай бұрын
have you compared the cost between an M2Pro mac mini with 32GB ram and a 1TB ssd to a base level Mac mini studio then up the SSD to 1TB? A few hundred bucks more for a massively more powerful machine. I'm not disagreeing with your post.... I'm just saying that I'd definitely spend $300 extra for a massively more powerful machine. I don't look at the first year cost. I look at the cost differential between the two and consider that I'd likely use the machine for a minimum of 5 years so I distribute the cost differential per year. 300/5 = $60/yr. Hell, when I order pizza delivery one time it comes to more than $30.
@CarlosOsuna1970 Жыл бұрын
Actually, the best way forward for the Mac Pro is a return to the basic architecture set forward by the NeXT Cube. I imagine the next Mac Pro (pun not intended) as an ATX motherboard with one processor slot (maybe M2) and 6 or 8 PCI express slots where you would plug basically either a Mac Mini mother board as a GPU Graphics card or an NVIDIA or AMD CPU graphic card. This would create a scallable cluster similar to IBM Scalable POWERparallel. (SP2) which would act like a single UNIX entity.
@AnthonyWrightFilms2 жыл бұрын
Are you going to snag an M2 Max MacBook Pro soon? Those look hella powerful!
@tommih5972 жыл бұрын
Any updates to Resolve since this video? I saw somewhere that export times were significantly faster after an update.
@initialfocus2 жыл бұрын
Nope, latest resolve update was December 22
@northislandnow88582 жыл бұрын
Just so people know, the base Mac mini ssd write speed is almost half the speed of the next up version of the 512 GB ssd drive.
@spacecadet21722 жыл бұрын
And the 1TB or higher m2 pro is 4x faster
@arnobchowdhury96412 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting if you had thrown in Mac Studio into the mix.
@LameLameInsane2 жыл бұрын
this guy: its base model also guy: but i upgraded it so its not the base model
@alesh-cz2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone makes a review, that captures the actual use of the computers (well, the use I'm interested in anyway). There are counless "reviewers" who just spew out graph after graph of geekbench numbers and are done with it following with soffisticated suggestions that tell nothing usefull. Here's the timeline performance in Davinci - scrubbing, playback, effects on/off, lower res monitoring. The things that actually matter during the creative phase of video editting. Having export done quickly is nice, but having fluent editting experience is so much more important. I just got the Speed editor and a Studio license of DR. Finally my PC uses all the power of its GPU, more features of DR are available and the editting experience is soooo much better. Not having to wait for everything to pre-render to play it back and forth is amazing. If you get a chance, please do make a test of one of the new M2 Pro chips in similar way you did this video.
@robertmarsh13382 жыл бұрын
The workflow was skewed HEAVILY in favour of the mac pro though. No reason to export HEVC and h264 at the same time unless you want to overload the ram so the Mac pro wins. I do agree about the Geekbench numbers though. They are useless. I have only found one channel so far that actually did tests that I thought were relevant and scientific. It was Serge M.
@initialfocus2 жыл бұрын
You can’t export them at the same time….it exports sequentially. You just add both to the render queue at the same time but then it goes one at a time.
@robertmarsh13382 жыл бұрын
@@initialfocus yes I know that but you fill the ram up and it starts using swap space. There is no chance for it to clear and start again
@robertmarsh13382 жыл бұрын
@@initialfocus it doesn't matter with 192 gb because you have so much headroom that macos doesn't need to juggle anything. With 8GB there is simply not enough working room to get everything out of ram and onto the SSD and so on, especially for two consecutive tasks. And to add to that if ur are using the SSD as ram there is not enough write speed left for the export to happen.
@alesh-cz2 жыл бұрын
@@robertmarsh1338 Oh really? If that's was the case, then Resolve would be the worst software ever written and OS X would be just as bad. None of that is obviously true. Of course there's a chance and the chance is used even during one single export of the timeline. The memory that gets dynamically allocated by the app is also deallocated once it's no longer needed. That is not at the end of the render queue, but the instant the piece of code that needs it is done with it. The swap is performed at times when more memory is allocated than there's physically available in the system. With 8GB of RAM that happens more often (even during single export). BTW, with the memory bandwidth of 100GB/s of the M2, the whole 8GB of system RAM can be copied back and forth 12.5 times a second.
@lilchad_hd2 жыл бұрын
Why not export in ProRes to use the internal encoders and decoders
@JobKaper2 жыл бұрын
Great ending to the video😁
@atwajesper94342 жыл бұрын
Nice video but you’re comparing Apples and Oranges here. The base model Mac Mini M2 has an SSD Nand bottle neck issue. You have to get the 1TB one in order to make it fairer. Also, the Mac Pro that you’re using is not the base model. The base model is $6K, yours is over 13K and we have yet to account for the upgrades in RAM and storage that you made afterwards. The Mac Pro has the word Pro in it unlike the Mac Mini. You should have at least compared it with the Mac Mini M2 Pro even if the cost goes up to $1,300 because it would still be over 10 times cheaper than your Mac Pro.
@alimugeni53572 жыл бұрын
The fact he didn’t remove the other components that he added to his Mac Pro made this video somehow pointless. Read and write speeds also affect timeline playback
@SuperALBSURE2 жыл бұрын
Kind of think the issue is that the Mac Pro is still better because you can put in cheap drives and GPU. So when your comparing systems you can get caught up in the off the shelf configs that apple sell but forget that you can also roll your own.
@atwajesper94342 жыл бұрын
@@SuperALBSURE I think that nobody is arguing that the Mac Pro is more powerful than the base model M2 Mac mini. As a matter of fact, it must be more powerful. All I’m saying is that we should always compare apples to apples and remember that cheap doesn’t necessarily mean, slow. Something could be cheap for different reasons. Cheers.
@xaviercastillo90482 жыл бұрын
Great video! But you missed a chance to compare the m2 iPad Pro there!! I rather seen iPad instead m1
@initialfocus2 жыл бұрын
I wish I could do the M2 ipad as well. I don’t own that one. I am working on comparing my M1 ipad though.
@xaviercastillo90482 жыл бұрын
@@initialfocus that will be awesome! Btw big fan of your work
@frankpaws2 жыл бұрын
How is your M1 MBP only getting less than 1000? Mine is getting 5300 read and write.
@initialfocus2 жыл бұрын
It’s the base 256GB. Apple uses striped drives once you go 512 or above which greatly increases drive performance
@AA-kj4ic2 жыл бұрын
should try the M2 Pro mini with max memory and 1TB or 512G SSD to compare.
@levysrugo68612 жыл бұрын
Great detailed comparison. Would like to see how the M2 Pro Mac Mini fares against those
@mrwashur19912 жыл бұрын
Is your ssd close to full on the mbp? My gf has a mbp with an intel chip and she gets like 1200MBps. No m.2 should be at 600MBps unless it has an issue or it’s getting full. Unless Apple is slowing them down haha.
@initialfocus2 жыл бұрын
Which storage capacity does she have? The 256GB ones (my base model) has the slowest speeds. 512 and up have significantly higher ones