Hamza Tzortzis | ‘Dawah Pimping’, Algorithm Prostitution & Muslim Masculinity | BB #92

In this episode of the Blood Brothers Podcast, Dilly and Aki Hussain speak with the CEO of @SapienceInstitute, @HamzaTzortzisOfficial. #Dawah #masculinity #hamzatzortzis
Timestamps:
0:00:00 - 0:02:08 - Intro
0:02:09 - 0:28:21 - Pakistan Dawah trip
0:28:22 - 0:43:41 - Shaykh Haitham al-Haddad & The Visionary programme
0:43:42 - 0:54:58 - Dawah pimping and algorithm prostitution
0:54:59 - 1:16:41 - Red pill and Prophetic masculinity
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[@5Pillars]

As salaamu alaykum brothers, sisters, friends and foes. Please like, share and comment on this video, as well as subscribing to the 5Pillars KZbin channel! Jazakallah khayran.

[@aqe7914]

Brother Dilly, why are you passive aggressive against him? Wallahi cringe

[@snakejuce]

@@aqe7914 Maybe he isn't and it just came off like that? 🤷

[@aali8874]

وَعَلَيْكُم السَّلَام وَرَحْمَةُ اَللهِ وَبَرَكاتُهُ

[@aqe7914]

@@snakejuce Maybe, is it me or “Greeks were smashed by many people, arabs, Persians etc” quote was when he crossed the line. I hope they don’t have beef in real life, as here it came off as if Dilly (whom I respect) had a personal antipathy towards Tzortsis.

[@snakejuce]

@@aqe7914 Haha I saw that part too, nah man he doesn't mean it in the way you think he does. It's just to be humorous.

[@HamzaTzortzisOfficial]

JazakAllahkhayr for the invite my dear brothers. Dilly and Aki have this ability to make you feel that there no cameras. May Allah accept and forgive us for any shortcomings.

[@axis2312]

Ameen brother

[@dillyhussain7692]

Wa alaykum as salaam my dear brother and companion, May Allah (swt) bless you, your family, and everyone at Sapience with the best in this life and the next, ameen. Now if I may interject…😂

[@samuay8254]

Dear Ustad Hamza, Youth club and Naseeha Institute are overtly wahabi and deobandi representing only ~4% and ~10% of the Muslim population in Pakistan respectively, while the majority Muslim spirit is Ahle Sunnah Waljamaat aka 'Brelvi'. For a Daawah in a Sunnah way, a more inclusive approach is needed in Pakistan. Moreover, public universities would be a much better place to see the representative Pakistani population. Private universities, specially LUMS don't represent Pakistan!

[@BazDawah]

May Allah SWT bless Ustadh Hamza, Br. Dilly, and Br. Akhi for this podcast. Allah SWT bless you all and your Ramadan. P.S. Next time have Br. Firas Zahabi in the room. And every time Dilly interrupts Br. Hamza, Br. Firas can give him a dirty look. ;)

[@samuay8254]

@@KJK- Good thoughts and numbers which may vary depending on the source! The sole purpose of my message to Ustad Hamza was to encourage a more inclusive approach in Pakistan. Because, if it's not inclusive, people start banning each other, for examples, wahabis banned deobandi jamaat etc. But unity is the need of the time!

[@BloggingTheology]

Very nice discussion!

[@5Pillars]

Jazakallah Khayran brother Paul!

[@truthinknowledge8312]

When is Paul Williams going on 5 pillars? 😉

[@ibnn7089]

@@5Pillars We need brother Paul on, need to see him do the Naga challenge

[@1OnlyOneOnlyOne1]

Paul the G O A T in the house.

[@legendkiller72001]

Love you Paul ❤

[@azirtube6512]

As an MBA Alumni of LUMS, i fully agree with brother Hamza. Lucky for me I didn't go through the undergraduate program there. LUMS still suffers from Colonial baggage. I got sick of explaining to my peers that the west is nothing to look up to

[@ammarahsajid8164]

I like how Hamza has really understood the current inner dynamics of Pakistan and what is going on. As an American Pakistani I appreciate his interest and good intentions for us. Currently studying from the courses from sapience Institute and it's awesome stuff they have got there

[@junayedmustofaghalib4683]

What is the dynamic in Pakistan?

[@ammarahsajid8164]

@@junayedmustofaghalib4683 Well there are a lot of groups that are lobbying for very secular elements like LGBTQ rights and basically the spread of vulgarity and whatever comes along it. However there are many groups in Pakistan that are trying to counter these attacks at every level

[@junayedmustofaghalib4683]

@@ammarahsajid8164 Hmm interesting. Sadly, we are losing the paradigmatic way of approaching Qur'an and Sunnah. In Bangladesh, we use Qur'an and Sunnah as a source but not as a paradigm. Bangladesh (esp Dhaka) has become secularized and almost 90% of the parents are pushing their children into liberal institutions (universities) without any form of basic level of defense mechanisms. The children are still 'Muslims' but their Islamic understanding is couched in liberal imperatives.

[@doyoufeel...thatyoulackcri6760]

@@junayedmustofaghalib4683 muslims french kiss black stone pagan style and perform pagan rituals around it

[@assabr8773]

@@doyoufeel...thatyoulackcri6760 How about ritual cannibalism that christians practice? (Eucharist) How about the famous pagan holiday that you celebrate every year? Christmas (birthday of God appearing nowhere in the Bible) How about praying to crucified man drenched in blood and rags? And let's not forget kissing the dried finger or skeleton of a "saint" ? 🤔

[@axis2312]

I like this vision, it's not just about making the world (outwardly) muslim, it's about reviving the true spirit of Islam and internalising the Prophet's (peace be upon him) model. May Allah facilitate that for all of you who care more about pleasing Allah

[@usmanbarak2615]

Priorities, impact, and wisdom is needed to tackle modern issues. And the intention has to be checked, because as Hamza said, shaytaan is always at work and can screw anything up if we slip and forget the responsibility and duties that we’ve been given. The future will be only worse seeing how things are escalating out of control, and the worst sins are being promoted and followed. I admire these brothers for holding it down for us in the west, we need only the best fit for the job.

[@asma-mushtaq]

Ameen

[@Mohammed-pe6oy]

Brother Hamza's idea of a prophetic masculinity series is a huge need of today's time. I pray that it's a success.. that he expedites it's release, and that scholars are consulted prior to that, so that we don't end up with differences in opinions and post talk online about anything "blameworthy" - coz that would beat the purpose.

[@mohammeds3114]

May Allah protect you Hamza - you have really grown. He mentioned unknown/unpopular personalities. Go to any Darul Uloom or similar madrasah- the unknowns are giants and we need to go find them instead of expecting them to come out and big themselves up.

[@u-kneeque]

"give the people what they need, not what they want " spot on brother Hamza. People are too emotionaI and emotionally invested in certain brothers, they can't see the ha®m these brothers are doing. The maslaha and mafsada goes out the window when $$ is involved to *some* . May Allah guide us all.

[@usmanbarak2615]

Being divided only worsens the situation for our youth and leaders. We need a clear goals that will only benefit the ummah, the more we waste time the more go astray. These days it’s so easy to get entertained by nonsense online and on social media. The intention to make things correct should be at the forefront. Because these days there’s so much work to do and it’s the most ppl have been plugged online in history. Many go to google or KZbin to find knowledge to benefit from in their hectic lives. We need to provide the best and with a good intention.

[@ribeirojorge5064]

From the Fallacy Trap of Freedom Equality and Fraternity Until Sovereignty Justice and Responsibility ❤️ 💚 💜

[@bouchrat8048]

I raised my voice about this few times . I ask Allah swt to fix things up and bring harmony in between muslim men and women.

[@Chaos4190]

The Sapience Institute's Londinnya playlist has been so useful, its easy and very much a go to for me. I hope they carry on their work. They have the truth on their side.

[@tdsdave]

They are terrible , their apologetics is to make you feel better and not apostate , there is nothing in it to persuade a non-muslim, so much of it is biased to the point of dishonesty.

[@Chaos4190]

@@tdsdave It examines all these ideologies from an Islamic lens. Seeing the state of the disbeliever who buys into these things is enough for me not to apostate.

[@hibatuadam2777]

​@@tdsdave it is primarily for a Muslim audience. Get lost

[@1MSubsNovideos]

@@tdsdavewho would you recommend for dawah?

[@danialecon3386]

We love you Brother Hamza for the sake of Allah. May Allah bless you and your great team beyond measure. Salam and Dua from Pakistan. Please do visit again.

[@peacenow6618]

May Allah Accept your works, and make it a means of acceptance and Guidance for the Ummah!

[@5Pillars]

Ameen ya Rabb 🤲🏽

[@merccy]

JazakAllah khair, brother Hamza appreciate the focus on the root problem. holistic understanding of The Message is of utmost importance - a priority. May Allah bless and protect Sapience Institute for bridging the gaps, engaging the need to return to the path of The Message and the Prophetic tradition with excellent programmes. we need this. BarakAllah 5 Pillars.

[@hodanabdulkadir9019]

Thanks to you dilly aki and hamza like always this conversation really is needed

[@TheAbuFulaan]

Amazing contribution by Hamza, many of the things shared deserve to be written in gold, may Allah preserve him

[@asma-mushtaq]

Ameen

[@sa0818]

Huge respect for br Hamzah and the BB podcast. JazakAllah khayr

[@travelwithtravelous]

SubhanAllah ... I've been talking about that show "bitter truth" with my friends and we share Mr. Hamza the same thoughts. In my opinion it causes a lot more damage than benefit. I would dare to day it causes fitnah. May Allah (swt) us all to the straight path.

[@altafbhat-nt3re]

What's Pakistan like? لاَ اِلَاهَ الَااللّٰهُ مُحَمَّدُالرَّسُوْلُ اللّٰهِ! Lots of love from India-occupied Kashmir!

[@daisybee5943]

May Allah guide and protect Hamza.

[@mukkimerc856]

Beautiful discussion, very mature, clear and concise. One thing that's been bugging me over the last couple years is the back and forth duaat have online. It's very "toxic". May Allah preserve you brothers and save you from the evils of ego and disunity.

[@mrblubed]

It's really ironic, the way brother Hamza was admiring and is inspired by Sheikh Hadad, I look up the Beother Hamza in the same fashion. May Allah increase us all❤

[@thrilled2bits]

Subhānallāh, wishing and praying that Allah SWT increases Hamzah and the likes, intellectual, spiritual and physical strengths, many folds - ãmeen. Keep going my Bros, you're our immediate beacons, ambassadors of truth and correction.

[@aeronation7465]

Loved this and the brothers involved may Allah reward you all and keep you all steadfast and sincere 🤲

[@rtsa4633]

I appreciate this video so much man. Every topic here was very personal to me from Pakistan to character to the issues with red pill.

[@whootoo1117]

Hamza is a very influential scholar. I like his wisdom and intelligent approach of many things. There is always difference in apptitude and intellect among members of each society. I think this is one thing which is evident among famous guys. There are very few who can't form their own positions or ideas which is different from what they hear from red pill league. There is also a technical issue when things happen accidently without malign intentions. So, the social part for not throwing the unapt under the bus is the right thing and that is why encouraging and critiquing is good like Hamza is doing now

[@emaadstoys7449]

SubhanAllah. I have really started to respect brother Hamza. He is one of favourite speakers. The way he articulates is something I (being from a non english background) which really helps. Thank you Dilli and Akki as always for a wonderful podcast.

[@DawahMotivation]

Excellent discussion. Duaat and activists need to listen/ watch this

[@RAHMATULLAHNOWRUZ]

watching...

[@muslimWN]

Allahumma Barik! This was so insightful, made me tear up at times. May Allah SWT bless all the brothers and grant them success in all their endeavors! May Allah SWT grant them Jannatul Firdaus!! ❤❤❤

[@saburabdul-salaam2418]

Jazak Allahu khairan. Please continue to have guests who will challenge our understanding and practice of Islam.

[@1OddlyOdd]

May Allah protect Hamza from the extensions of ego, and keep him steadfast on his deen, and increase his knowledge of Islam and Allah, and keep the light in his heart that he has for Allah, may Allah allow him to keep inspiring people in the way he speaks and articulates his thoughts. I look up to him, not necessarily for the dawah, but because I see how much he cares about Al haqq. We need more men like him to ALWAYS ask “what does Allah say about this?” Or “would the prophet do this”. SubhanAllah may Allah bless us with righteous men in our lives and distance us from ill-meant men.

[@KR-rs2wk]

Love the creativity of the title

[@TheUnknownMAS]

AlHamdulillah, great discussion. JazakAllahu khair!

[@mahimabegum1074]

Amazing discussion !!

[@peacenow6618]

جزاک اللہ خیرا

[@Mr_Main-event_Muhammad024]

A big shout-out to Ustadhs Hamza Andreas Tzortzis and Mohammad Hijab! Ustadh Hamza's reply to Ustadh Dilly Hussain's critique of him is life-changing, Masha'Allah!

[@hamzariazuddin424]

Happy to see that last bit we.. said Hamza....Some of the red pill / "Islamic" masculinity stuff online is very worrying...I question it

[@mohpat9989]

Mashallah brothers keep up the good work

[@bitinebiti]

As always, inspirational... May Allah accept it from you, ameen

[@itzbilal4876]

may allah bless hamza what an amazing nd courageous brother ❤

[@homtanks7259]

JazakAllah'u khairan

[@hmul3399]

Long felt what Hamza says here. Our standards are very poor, but the impoverishment of the next man emboldens us.

[@Legendary070]

Found this banger of a podcast!

[@RAHMATULLAHNOWRUZ]

very strong words been used in the title.

[@sheharasaterninas1815]

JazakAllahuKhair

[@sofiqulislam6447]

Hamza is love right. Alhamdulillah ❤❤

[@abdullahhaque1860]

Jazakallahu khairan

[@afifkhaja]

I enjoyed the interview. I think Islam and liberalism are not the only options. Conservative humanism is the answer to society’s most pressing questions

[@sarahsamaria8283]

Don't let circumstances dictate our conduct. Sometimes due to trials and tribulations we lose our integrity and then looking back, we realised it was all a waste. And we stand ashamed looking at our reflection in the mirror.

[@helaydaibrahim3919]

Selamâleykûm! Man in a white have to sit as man next to him, put down leg while greeting in our way as we Muslims Esselamualeykum!!! It’s very important to know our deen from main rules : respect and humbleness! May Allah protect us from such individuals 🤲🏻 Allah korusun böyle “imanlıyım” diyenden!

[@hassanahmed5540]

Can you please do 5pillars programmes more regularly

[@5Pillars]

Insha’Allah!

[@SulaimanRafiq]

This was a really great podcast. Very insightful to hear from Hamza and his views are very timely, especially on red pill movement and the manosphere

[@bhatsahil9267]

My fav Hamza tzortzis Sharif Dr imran nd abdur rahman from tap

[@lilekoe1]

😂 There’s always tension with these two loool love it! Real boys

[@SlaveKing1444]

HAMZA IS A GEM. GRAVITAS.

[@JackQuinn-ox9qs]

"For centuries the Greeks have been smashed by all kinds of people." What is the point in saying this to a man that has Greek ancestry?

[@MrKazom]

Jokes of a comment. Legend

[@Umme-45]

Agreed, it’s offensive

[@ayjay7425]

Really loved hearing brother Hamza speak on these matters. Just some sincere advice to the brother hosting - you kept interrupting your guest so he wasn’t able to finish his sentence the majority of the time. It was hard to follow.

[@freeman7983]

Baraka ALLAHU fikoum

[@brainorteg4662]

❤❤❤ i Love you My Brothers

[@sim4cs]

I’m with you Hamza ... we’re with you Hamza & Co. .. I can help in Pakistan 🇵🇰 & Turkiye 🇹🇷 at very high levels

[@fulstak]

The book mentioned in the video: Imam Dawud Walid's "Futuwwah, and Raising Males Into Sacred Manhood".

[@ShabirBurhani2021]

SubhanAllah

[@sm-bu9dp]

Unfortunately, Bother Dilly's usual interview skills, manners and etiquette was extremely lacking in this video. It is vital that you allow your guest to properly express himself without interrupting as it affects the flow of conversation as well as the audience's listening experience. Please do take this advice on board. Barak Allah fikum

[@ahmedd320]

I think it was necessary in this episode

[@u-kneeque]

JazakAllah khair brother Hamza. You're a wise man in a w o ® I d where wisdom is Ia©king.

[@MA-gm3wd]

Allah centric and Akirah centric!!! MashaAllah great podcast. Jzk

[@usmanbarak2615]

Great podcast with the brother, we need more real talks like this one. Many have forgotten the basics of Islam like with manners and decency. We need the youth to see good role models that have Allah always in their hearts and minds. So much ppl chase clout and drama, it should be the Muslims who provide beneficial wisdom and knowledge for the world. We gotta get back on track united, and not bickering or fighting amongst ourselves. It’s shaytaan that lives to divide Muslims and mankind.

[@TheDarpaChief]

57:00 Hamza goin in

[@sammu]

Very good talk. I’ve noted that Br. Hamza gets emotional in every video of his. Hope all is well with him.

[@DePeaceHunter]

Not emotional, but passionate. Two very differrent thing.

[@sammu]

@@DePeaceHunter I suppose so.

[@jacktheladhub]

Where is this gem just drop from 😁

[@5Pillars]

We had to make up for no episode for nearly 3 months! Enjoy 😊

[@MZD15]

Masha Allah Hamza talking about Mohammed Hijab 31:00

[@snakejuce]

Respect.

[@aakibshaikh7310]

1:13:00 The dynamics *between* Dilly and akki😂. Gone are the days of 'Left Hanging' (as in high five) that was outright murder 😂😂. The Smirk by Dilly at the end❤

[@OptimizedMuslim]

جزاك الله خيرا I pay a lot of attention to Ustadh Hamza's work and one of my aims إن شاء الله is to learn from him on a closer level. I didn't watch "the show" because I assumed from the dynamic and the absence of Ustadh Hijab that it would be chaotic - and the subsequent reaction solidified that assumption. I think with certain personalities a lot of Muslims have an intuition or firasah that we should pay heed to. That is not necessarily proportional to how "controversial" they are because that is warped assessment in the 🤡🌍. I have hosted teachers like Ustadh Daniel and Ustadh Gabriel who are deemed "controversial". I pray that Allāh ﷻ allows any public work that we do to aid us on the scales and be of benefit to people.

[@essa200911]

Mashallah

[@abdullahtahir7236]

Very nice mashallah

[@simplestatement1543]

They talk about the khilafah .Mashallah

[@AzzBadshah]

Could someone please explain what Hamza was talking about at 38:20, sapience colab with who?

[@Tokhai47]

The Book recommendation is called: Futuwwah by Imam Dawud Walid.

[@helpoj]

What was the show they were talking about towards rhe end?

[@shuaibafzal6042]

Unpopular opinion: the way 5 pillars communicates is/ has been part of problem!

[@CR7Update]

"I've never called you Ustadh, doesn't feel right" 😂😂😂

[@526farhan]

Waalikumassalam

[@snakejuce]

I always said, "Slaves of the Algorithm instead of The Most High."

[@Mini-14_Attorney_at_Law]

55:05 Query as to how one knows about another non-family member's childhood and how it affected his opinion, speech, intention, etc. I dislike when we do this while speaking about matters concerning others.

[@40_484]

No offence, but this was so hard to watch at times?...why invite someone on and legit nt let him speak? Js felt like everytime hamza was making his point or explaining, the host was quick to just finish of the sentence. I gt there's structure to podcast ect, let ur guest speak , probe when need to, let it be more natural.

[@mumin8838]

The Islamic patriarchy needs to be emphasised. Men are in control when it comes to the judiciary etc when it comes to the shairah. Imams need to emphasise that Western Muslim women NEED to obey their husbands and be submissive towards them. I'm not hearing ANY of this in the mainstream. If it is being said, it's very minimal. We hear alot lectures about how Men should be but not the same about women. Men and women are both to blame as they are both flawed, but living in western matriarchal societies gives women the ability to take advantage of men. Western laws are geared in favour of women especially with custody of children/ divorce etc

[@alberxenos]

Assalamu’alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh السَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَرَحْمَةُ اللهِ وَبَرَكَاتُهُ

[@wmmayoutube]

And I agree with Hamza regarding the podcast from Ali was a complete muslim pr disaster even my non Muslim students where showing me clips of it 😐

[@shamshoda1502]

Invite Daniel haqiaqtjou on your podcast

[@RayOfHope8]

❤️❤️❤️🌹🌹🌹

[@indrajithsunilkumar9042]

👍

[@MohammedAli-gk7pg]

Dilly looking well. Nice n leaner ahha m'A

[@AwaisAhmedPodcast]

I give you an example of online people who embody what an online Muslim role Model should be: 1. Dr. Shadee Elmasry 2. Ustadh Hamza himself 3. Dr. Nasser Karimian 4. Muslim Andrew Tate ( if he shuns redpill ideology) 5. Daniel Haqiqatjou ( needs a slightly softer approach though)

[@usmanbarak2615]

Lmao Muslim Tate 😂

[@AwaisAhmedPodcast]

@@usmanbarak2615 Whats funny

[@adam.bashir]

Sh Shadee elmasry 🔛🔝

[@47AK.]

InshAllah aki will feature in future episodes.

[@5Pillars]

Insha’Allah, he has been missed!

[@SM-qk5hi]

How do I reach Hamza

[@saveYourOWNsouls.]

last comment n apologies for being over parroting n over opinionated.. wht needed too..firstmostly is daah towards Allah's gr8ness n why n purpose of life yes..but also shariah maqasid objectives..as to offer the solutions..perhaps as to what br hamza said give what needed not wanted..... p.s need that standard mind set of humility n think others better..istgfirAllah... salam alaikom n plz ur duas Allah bless protect n preserve us all ameen 🇵🇸🏁☪️🥁🕊🦁💚📯

[@MegaTidehunter]

I've got the same lamp :P

[@SM-qk5hi]

I have a strategy but how do i share it with Hamza?

[@snakejuce]

Write a book on it, so we can take you seriously.

[@tjc4085]

I know it’s best not to name names but in the context of understanding what figures are perhaps best to avoid… was Hamza referring to Mahdi Tidjani when he was talking about prophetic masculinity being hijacked by man-boys etc.,?

[@danishbhatt9116]

It was referring to Daniel Haqiqatjou, I think. He even mentioned that these people criticize organizations but don't say take the good for them and only do that for redpill, which is Haqiqatjou for sure

[@tjc4085]

@@danishbhatt9116 thanks!

[@mehmet20003]

​@Danish Bhatt doesn't make any sense, daniel. Daniel actually shows the deviance of all these organisations and how they misguid the muslims. If you actually looked at the evidence he brings you woudnt dare say such a thing. Also Daniel never said to take everything from redpill he agrees with a lot in it but also admits that it has misguided ideas since it isn't revelations

[@aqe7914]

Which sheikh Haytham brothers? Someone please provide the full name.

[@5Pillars]

Shaykh Dr Haitham al-Haddad of the Islamic Council of Europe.

[@aqe7914]

@@5Pillars Jazakallahu Khayran!

[@ribeirojorge5064]

I Am the Whole I Am the Whole I Am the Whole and I Am Not the Nothing I Am Peace I Am Love I Am the Fury and I Am the Rage I Am the Lover CareGiver ❤️ 💚 💜 I Am the Fury that Veils the Sacred