5th Horseman is a Seriously Gnarly North Shore Trail

What a cool trail. I would say this trail definitely lives up to its extremely gnarly reputation. The Trailforks description says "about as difficult as it gets on Cypress" (and by extension, the shore in general). It's not often that I'm unable to get through the ride around but I have zero shame on the crux section of this one. Hope you enjoy both the speedy bits and contemplation moments of this one, it's a doozy.
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[@simon2776]

This is the most underrated biking channel on youtube.

[@DaleStone]

Haha, thank you!

[@BermUnit]

@@DaleStone you had 3.99 subs then had a cameo in a BU vid, and than bam, 4.02 subs. Just sayin'. LOL. Congrats tho. :)

[@DaleStone]

Hey, it's the push I've needed for a while!

[@BermUnit]

Dale Stone i made that comment at 4.02 subs, then bam, 4.03 subs. just sayin. 😉

[@treadless_co]

@@BermUnit 4.07!

[@aflay5006]

I absolutely love finding smaller MTB channels with extremely satisfying GoPro footage - well done mate.

[@GaryDonosti]

A bear would be the least scary part of that trail.

[@onecutmedia]

GaryDonosti it’s Bearly Rideable 😂

[@bradcomis1066]

You know its basically a cliff when Dale is hesitant. Good to see you've found some features that are pushing you to the max haha

[@DaleStone]

Zero interest in this one, though I've said that before about several features I've ridden after a couple of years, haha.

[@andrewgreenwood8727]

There are some seriously sketchy lines on those trails skill levels of you guys is very high ! It's a delight to watch you !! Keep up the magic work 👍👌🎄🚵🎄🎄🚵

[@alanw.4511]

"Know your limits...." Exactly!!!! Live to tell the story and don't get gimped up!

[@davidduran9905]

Bro, stoked I found this channel. Superb content. One of the best out there.

[@TProStudioCreate]

Damn dude! This one was just wild! Some of these features were crazy especially some of the natural tech spots. Absolutely unreal footage as always man.

[@DaleStone]

Cheers! Great track stand practice.

[@andr128g]

Just recently discovered your channel and I gotta say, I'm absolutely loving it. Love the concept of no BS, just riding with buddys or alone and showing us some great trails. Your channel is definitely promising and to me it's crazy you ''only'' have 4.1k subscirbers, I'm sure a lot more will come with time ;) Keep doing what you're doing, it's great. Love from Denmark.

[@DaleStone]

Thanks for the kind words! You nailed what I'm going for. The numbers will hopefully come naturally!

[@crissvaughn85]

What scary, but fun one. That one line's absolutely ridiculous - no shame pal! Thx for the great shot and your skills put to work 🚀🚀🚀

[@DaleStone]

No shame at all. Haven't regretted my decision yet haha.

[@jimthompson717]

Awesome video. I hiked up that trail when it was just a route. I rode down it on a hard tail a few years ago, walking ( climbing down) the drops. I'm 64 and persuing safer activities now

[@MTBMcPhee]

It seems like every rider on the shore is a trials frickin' master! Very inspiring.

[@DaleStone]

Riding with Dave and Braden is extremely interesting as they often take the opposite approach to things haha.

[@tjadams7110]

Dude, so talented. That trail looked insane!

[@yashgurung8232]

Amazing video quality. Plain and simple. Sick riding.

[@LongLiveEnduro]

Well done mate, next level riding. The GoPro doesn't do the sections any justice. I was there last autumn and couldn't believe my eyes.

[@RthereNEusernames]

I'd break my face just walking on this trail lmao. That section you guys tackled for a while was serious!

[@mrpercussive]

Man, some gorgeous trails!

[@al3440]

That trail got some MOVES😎🤘🏻

[@keystonemtb9925]

Great video! Just got a 2021 Sight and I love it. BC looks like heaven and I cannot wait to get out there and ride.

[@DaleStone]

Hell yeah brother! Glad to hear it. And glad to have you up here once normalcy resumes someday!

[@sasomtb4784]

What a sick trail and riding, respect 🤘

[@SparrowIG-]

Defo subbing, sick riding brother. Keep it up!

[@EricKinskofer]

This has my vote for the hardest trail I’ve ever ridden. Rode it a few times.. looks the same pretty much from even way back when we were riding it in ‘02.. I never could ride all of it. The ridge line starting at 7:30 still haunts my dreams.. many bailouts there. Your buddies line was sick. One of the shores treasures.

[@DaleStone]

Yeah I may have had nightmares about that line for a few nights afterwards haha. Went back to clear my concious: not for me. 😄 Braden is a machine though!

[@treadless_co]

unreal, literally had me scared just watching a few of those. Sweet riding!

[@DaleStone]

Thanks TM! I'll show you this kind stuff... One day...

[@taunir713]

That was cool. You are the kind of guys I would like to go on a ride with. Scary Trail tbh.

[@LuiisSiilvaa]

that trail omg.... loved the video bro you have some skills :D

[@cstudi]

Is that Dave Herr? His trials videos, especially when he rode the echo 24" was a huge inspiration for me back in 2010 ish. Dude went huge.

[@DaleStone]

Yeah same Dave Herr! I remember watching some of his stuff growing up as well, it's a small world (or something like that)!

[@ddangerousddave]

The one and only :p

[@dansoutdooradventures]

Great job guys. 👍🚲

[@allanmaynard8595]

Wow that was some steeeep jank! Thanks for sharing.

[@SammyTheHuman]

love this type of more personal video

[@DaleStone]

Thanks! I'm always conflicted about what "style" I should be filming in, so I try to mix it up a bit. I don't have any interest in sending that one section so this was an easy decision haha.

[@SammyTheHuman]

@@DaleStone nah man, personally I love seeing the difficult stuff you skip out on just as much, if not more, than just the highlights of cool stuff. Makes it all a bit more relatable and human

[@traildad604]

Dale, that section at 10:30 ish is savage, gets me everytime!

[@DaleStone]

Absolutely nuts! You ride it Lee?

[@satn3345]

Nice video! Such a knarly trail! Thanks!

[@DaleStone]

Average Enduro #12 course? 😉

[@satn3345]

Total Carnage if that happened! 🤣🤣

[@cartermaclellan6129]

I love how you guys all have the same bikes

[@ddangerousddave]

Dale copied me.

[@thecount1001]

the guy with the yellow bike did that one section brilliantly.

[@scottpratico1315]

Shows why no other KZbinrs feature this classic. Serious tech. The really messed up part is that trail was built in the hardtail/69 degree head angle/v brake era.

[@DaleStone]

It's honestly pretty mind boggling what kind of bikes this trail used to be ridden with. Though I suppose it also had much more grippy dirt, haha.

[@scottpratico1315]

Cove Hummer with a Judy DH and Magura hydraulic rim brakes w Mavic ceramic coated rims seemed to be the flavour of the day. There was another trail called GMG on Fromme above 7th that was silly steep like this. The shore really changed mountain biking forever.

[@DaleStone]

GMG is a treasure. Hiked through some of the abandoned woodwork a year ago and was amazed. Wish the skinny 'staircase' on the downhill log was still ridable...

[@scottpratico1315]

Be a good "Phoenix" project for some young builders. The terrain is awesome in there.

[@dank3823]

Quite gnarly but well done. Wise choice to enjoy the new shoulder longer. 🤙

[@DaleStone]

I've always been known as captain cautious among my friends for a reason!

[@valleytvmun]

best video I’ve watched in a while, that’s what you call #steeptech

[@whiplashmachine]

Nice, I love this trail🍻🇨🇦

[@knordberg]

That was a good one. Sketchy!

[@CallumBlue88]

Pure fun from MTB riding :) Nice!

[@crystaltanfara6029]

I love your video!!!

[@DaleStone]

Thanks Crystal!

[@TheNoseman1]

Going down 5th Horseman with no armour. Even more new school.

[@DaleStone]

So new-school it occasionally hurts.

[@true3211]

Wow, I don't know how you have 4k subs. The quality is up there with Jordan Boostmaster and BCpov.

[@DaleStone]

Thanks! The numbers will (hopefully) come naturally, I'm not going to try to force things along.

[@true3211]

@@DaleStone That's a good idea, forcing things mostly goes bad anyways.

[@BermUnit]

@@DaleStone that's just rude to those of us that ARE trying to force things along, LOL!

[@LongLiveEnduro]

Actually I unsubbed from Jordan and I don't watch a lot of BCPov. This channel is different and I hope it stays like this. It's amazing! Just riding and fun with friends.

[@DaleStone]

That's the goal: keep it raw and keep it focused. I only upload things I want to watch, and I'm pretty picky!

[@brennanbeltrano295]

I love how the trail is super easy, then has one hard section, then has one section that's almost impossible then goes back to fun difficulty for the remainder of the trail

[@DaleStone]

It is an extremely deceptive top section. But it starts warming you up at a nice pace before the big huzzah!

[@TheyForcedMyHandLE]

5th Horseman; quite the ominous trail name 1st Horseman - he came out conquering and to conquer. 2nd Horseman - its rider was permitted to take peace from the earth, so that people would slaughter one another. 3rd Horseman - Its rider held a pair of scales in his hand. Famine followed. 4th Horseman - Its rider’s name was Death, and Hades followed with him.

[@tonyfrewin4822]

Great skills.

[@Torrent240]

Very well done. I walk down that one section too, just not there yet. You guys made it look good! When did you ride it? That bear is still around and made it into our neighbours back yard just down from there...

[@DaleStone]

This was filmed at the end of May. We ran into a bear enjoying the view of Horseshoe Bay climbing BLT just before Wutang.

[@Torrent240]

Dale Stone yea he’s still around there. We saw droppings just a couple weeks ago at the top of BLT. Let me know next time you ride cypress I live down the street and would love to try and follow your lines! There are some amazing un-mapped trails in the area too.

[@antperot]

top, top, excellent, I love it...

[@MMK86]

another awesome vid....talk about gnar! seems like it could go on forever, do you recall the elevation?

[@DaleStone]

This one drops roughly 350m over its length. Not huge, but hugely gnar!

[@roamntheloam7618]

Hey I’m looking to start a new mtb channel and I wanted to know what gear you use to film your rides. Great vid by the way, keep up the good work.

[@drock1136]

Great riding!! That's a badads trail.

[@everywherelocal]

nice clip 💪

[@crystaltanfara6029]

You must be a pro biker to do that trail!!!!!

[@FlyFishtheMitt]

Great video...sweet looking trail! Your footage is really clear. Curious if you're using a GoPro and at what settings?

[@DaleStone]

Yep! Hero 8 Black with Hypersmooth on.

[@FlyFishtheMitt]

@@DaleStone Thx. Assuming you're shooting 4k...what bite rate do you export in post production?

[@YBMTB]

Amazing

[@thepedalsadvocate7389]

Jesus eff. 930. No shame indeed. Incredible riding by all.

[@thepedalsadvocate7389]

Fun indeed.

[@RhysDardis]

I've never seen so many yellow sights in one place 😂

[@DaleStone]

They call us the bumblebees for a reason.

[@RhysDardis]

@@DaleStone yeah just buzzin down the hill! Well it will be easy to spot you if your ever out at Thornhill which is super close to home for me. Just dislocated my finger there the other day oops 😂

[@madbiker1455]

WILD CHERRY HAS ENTERED THE CHAT

[@DaleStone]

You know that's probably fair, though I'd personally be more likely to clean wild cherry before attempting that loose bit on 5th!

[@madbiker1455]

Dale Stone woah the one and only Dale “Steal your KOM” Stone has replied!

[@StayAllRide]

Awesome steeps and nice bikes. These all bikes are 29ers?

[@DaleStone]

Nope! Two 27.5" and one 29".

[@baykkarl9541]

Damn that is so steep man

[@tonyjofenig6833]

One weekend last summer, I said to my friends "I want to go ride 5th Horseman." They were all up for it, but were surprised it was my idea. They all did just fine (rode everything but the spot Dale skipped), I got my ass kicked the whole way down. 5th gets harder every year, as it erodes and becomes more and more janky. Plus the older I get, the harder everything looks to me.

[@DaleStone]

The erosion maybe balances out with the advancements in bike design! Haha

[@tonyjofenig6833]

@@DaleStone Yeah, it didn't really help me, reduced testosterone might be my problem.... The run out of the section you passed on has gotten worse and worse, the rolls just above have stayed about the same. The rock roll where your buddy hooks his front and lurches aquardly is easier, that used to not be a line, you had to go to the right of the tree there and transfer over to the rock. For reference, watch Kenny Smith if you can find it, he gaps it at ludicrous speed (granted , it's on a DH bike, but still).

[@gilb6662]

Liked that's good friend :)

[@camster4153]

How come you're all riding the same bike? Are they hired? Love your videos btw

[@DaleStone]

Happens to be one of the best options in 2020. Great minds think alike!

[@dsanfdsa1]

So many yellow Sights! Dale, have you ever experimented with a camera off the back of your helmet to better capture the steepness? I kinda wanna try...

[@DaleStone]

Very interesting idea. Not sure it's a super relatable viewpoint, but it would definitely show the grade better. And I do have another GoPro sitting around... 🤔

[@josiahgolding7826]

Chainstay mount makes it look even more steep!

[@patrickbustin693]

Norco dealer must have said they have a great group deal but only one condition lol😂

[@DaleStone]

We called them the demo fleet. 🙈

[@patrickbustin693]

@@DaleStone nice i recently got an optic myself, great videos recently subscribed and watching them all

[@paulgiles7456]

As if the 6.40 tec wasn’t scary enough. Just add a bear warning ⚠️

[@hobmarg]

Damn it looks even scarier on this than other videos cuz of the 3rd person angles haha. Don’t think I’d take this on even with a DH bike.

[@DaleStone]

The ridiculous part remains ridiculous regardless of head angle. 😅

[@daveandmerlin]

Gnarly !

[@mtbc-trailsmihajlovic8909]

great video Dale just wandering what video editing you use and how did you add the BPM on your video ? thanks

[@DaleStone]

Any video editor will be able to do what I do with simple colour correction, I've tried a few! Getting the BPM up is a complicated process using Excel, word and notepad haha.

[@mtbc-trailsmihajlovic8909]

@@DaleStone thanks Dale really appreciate your info but if you say that is complicated I will pass :)

[@DaleStone]

The easy, less pretty way of getting data overlays is using Garmin Virb, give that a look!

[@TheNickbb10]

Just found you channel, great stuff! You mentioned a "mildly broken shifter", looks like an xtr? I have had three break, downshift/easier gear paddle goes dead and can't shift sometimes? Mine were all a small broken spring, same exact place everytime. got'em all warrantied.

[@DaleStone]

Yep! Literally exact same issue here. Never fully diagnosed it but it was warrantied quickly and painlessly through Shimano. Not promising to hear it hadn't been fixed by your third one though haha.

[@TheNickbb10]

been pretty shocking to see them break so regularly, turns out my 30 yr old shimano 7spd shifter on the commuter actually better than the latest and greatest xt/xtr(first two were xt, then they upgraded me to xtr). Also had 2 of the new xt hubs crap out on me, started a forum on it if you're interested in hearing more. Going over to XO1 shifter/mech, see if its any better... forums.mtbr.com/wheels-tires/multiple-xt-m8100-hub-failures-1139315.html

[@DaleStone]

Truthfully I've had more success with XO1 from a reliability standpoint, but I'm definitely willing to accept some warranty faffing for Shimano shift quality (and the multi-release shifter!).

[@TheNickbb10]

@@DaleStone I stuck my wheel with the shimano cassette in my buddy's bike with XO1 shifting bits, actually shifts really nice! No worse than full shimano setup, the lack of multi release is a bummer though...

[@hobbes8737]

i cleaned this trail on a hardtail and high on marijiuana. no big deal! haha.

[@DaleStone]

Unsure if the high part is a handicap or a legitimately good strategy here haha.

[@hobbes8737]

@@DaleStone big time advantage ! you should film on diesel wolf , a trail i built near pemberton . ideally ride it in the semi wet !

[@DaleStone]

@@hobbes8737 ahhh that's super cool, I've heard about that trail for years! Might need a bit more practice first given its reputation...

[@chris4964]

Thats cute you all ride yellow bikes

[@DaleStone]

Pure coincidence, honestly! 🤷‍♂️

[@aydinbesic4264]

Hi dale! So I just got a full suspension bike, and it’s a giant stance 2 (2020) for $3200. It has 140 rear travel and 150 front travel, and was wondering if I can ride this trail you’ve done. What travel does your bike have in front and back?

[@DaleStone]

New bike day is always exciting! I have 160F/150R. I would not want to go much less than this, but debatably good geometry is more important than depth of travel when tackling things at our speed. We aren't trying to set any records on this kinda stuff, leave that to the DH bikes.

[@jackbrittton]

My goal in life is to have a bike as dialed as this one is

[@DaleStone]

That is a low bar to set, it's always in relative disrepair!

[@jackbrittton]

@@DaleStone Ah, at least it doesn't creak or anything

[@DaleStone]

Other than the Shimano cassette creaking in the aluminum cogs (which I thankfully don't film in) it's pretty silent, I'll give you that!

[@davidkline4372]

Yellow bike rally!!!

[@thecount1001]

3 yellow Sights??? oh come on.....

[@orlandogreer5035]

are you on a team, what's with you guys all having the same bike?

[@DaleStone]

Happens to be one of the best bikes around, great minds think alike.

[@thefannypack2873]

what are your gopro settings? they are sooo cool

[@DaleStone]

2.7k60 Superview, magic in post!

[@ApexSkate12]

Return of the Jedi vibe

[@mattgies]

Great video as always, but I'm finding it hard to understand the other riders over the trail noises. Would you consider adding captions?

[@DaleStone]

Great suggestion and first time I've heard it. I don't have any issues through my phone or a pair of headphones, but through a generic desktop or TV speaker you're damn right. I'll try to add them to future videos of this style!

[@mattgies]

@@DaleStone Thanks!

[@viperrules24]

@@DaleStone Braden: "Wheeoooww"

[@HoltPhysics]

@@viperrules24 That's basically the only caption you need for me

[@endurogod5230]

I mean there is the skull and lower ladies on fromme that could be contenders

[@DaleStone]

Lower Ladies is certainly tough, though Wild Cherry is the only other legal contender to this in my mind!

[@endurogod5230]

@@DaleStone i commented to early in the video, after i saw the second half there is no trail harder than that😂 holy it looked so scary, respect to you for knowing when to walk a feature

[@isabelcrf300]

Apuffsss 💪💪💪💪

[@onecutmedia]

too bad you can't get the full effect of that super gnarly spot unless you have been there

[@DaleStone]

True!

[@onecutmedia]

Dale Stone I rode it last fall on the DH bike. But not that super sketchy part.

[@unionandfifthmtb8227]

How do you post such good Go Pro footage!, Cant work out how to post with the VP9 codex. Any ideas?

[@DaleStone]

Considering I have no idea what the VP9 codec is, you may be on the wrong track haha.

[@unionandfifthmtb8227]

@@DaleStone Where do you edit your videos?

[@DaleStone]

DaVinci Resolve.

[@BermUnit]

But would you do it on a 50lb ebike?

[@DaleStone]

Climb it? Hell yeah bruther. 🤘⚡

[@LongLiveEnduro]

It's not about the bike, it's the guy on top...

[@scottpratico1315]

Better call Yoann Barrelli for that project.

[@endurogod5230]

I get scared hiking that section how tf did you bike that

[@DaleStone]

Braden and Dave are mad lads...

[@endurogod5230]

@@DaleStone haha my names brayden. I gotta live up to the name now😂

[@Thomas-pv4my]

What are your favourite gloves?

[@DaleStone]

Probably fox, but I'm not that picky!

[@Thomas-pv4my]

@@DaleStone They all seem to end up with holes...

[@DaleStone]

Better than HandUp for sure!

[@lewispark1482]

hey i know you!

[@DaleStone]

Woah, dude! Next time you're out here looking for pedal hit me up, I'll show you some goods. :)

[@hobbes8737]

lol no knee pads

[@DaleStone]

Gotta save weight somewhere.

[@bassdrum2003]

Just found you channel and I absolutely love it! I subbed, it would be awesome if you could checkout my channel aswel! And how do you get the footage so smooth?

[@DaleStone]

Hypersmooth, and the neck of a well balanced chicken.

[@thepedalsadvocate7389]

"Sanctioned". Lol. Your video quality is very rich. For lack of better word.

[@DaleStone]

Yeah I misspoke at the start. Nothing on Cypress is sanctioned to my knowledge, but it is a publicly known and mapped trail! Colours look pretty spot on on my phone, maybe a touch warm.

[@jcklondon91]

Mahna Mahna... kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWSkdKl5a9F1oas

[@DaleStone]

Dodoooodododo.

[@jcklondon91]

​@@DaleStone Allegorical internal dialogue for those at the top. Your subconscious will actually tell you within a second if it's gonna let you ride something reasonably well. 1.25 seconds later the ego comes in... Mahna Mahna - Do Do Do Do Do!