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@richardortiz8704 Жыл бұрын
High maintenance all in these parts 〽️〽️〽️〽️〽️ unreliable
@JR-bj3uf2 жыл бұрын
Get the A50. BSA suffered from the desire for more power. The 500 didn't stress the engine's internals and they were much more reliable if not a little lack luster. I was a British bike mechanic back in the 70s and 80s and this was an observation of mine. The more performance related a BSA twin the more issue it had.
@Comm0ut10 ай бұрын
That goes for others too. The 500 was perhaps the ideal Triumph twin displacement. (Shame about the shifter plate, mine like many tried to go into two gears at once with predictable results...)
@robleary33532 жыл бұрын
When I was 17 in the early 80's I wanted a motorbike. I bought a derelict BSA Bantam D3 swing arm for eighty quid. Dad and I rebuilt it (basic restoration). I'm in my 50's now and still have it (albeit in pieces, trying to restore it properly). Lovely little bike, perfect for a learner!.
@philwhitelaw31112 жыл бұрын
You can never beat, or replicate, the sound of a british twin under load, roaring down the road. A polite rumble growing into a rasping growl at the turn of your wrist. Still gives me a thrill after 30 years owning one.
@columbmurray7 ай бұрын
Sounds like my former wife.
@itchyvet2 жыл бұрын
I owned a 250 cc 1969 model Starfire, other than the oil leaks, was very happy with this bike. Even towed a Kawasaki 500 cc three cylinder two stroke for 300 K's after it broke down. Cost me set of sprockets and new chain and never saw the owner again. The Starfire never missed a beat during that trip. But the constant replacing of fouled points from the oil leak began to wear on me eventually, traded her in on a Honda 500cc 4 cylinder. Fantastic bike, not an oil leak tobe seen in the 200,000 miles I clocked up on that. It's only weakness was it's fuel consumption.
@ianwright39712 жыл бұрын
No B31 and B33??....I can't imagine a list of good BSAs without them....
@KB-uu4fy2 жыл бұрын
I took my motorcycle test in the army age 17 on a B40 in 1975. The whole army had them not just the Royal Signals. I did 1000’s of miles on one as a despatch rider and general duties in the RMP. Most regiments in the BAOR also had a cross country motorcycle team, and we had loads of competitions. I have a 1968 B25 Starfire, which my dad bought new, and a 1969 Lightning, which I have had 40 years. Both are original and used regularly. I am now umming and ahing about buying a 2022 BSA Goldstar……. Have heard good things on KZbin about them. Love your videos and have learned a lot, thanks 😊
@steveadams87992 жыл бұрын
Great video. Good to see you back Dave. Hopefully more workshop videos to follow.
@jjrider67582 жыл бұрын
Great to see Dave again, it seems like a long while since we saw any of his videos, hope to see more soon.. This video has actually come in really handy for me as I'm currently looking for my first Beeza - I have always had Norton twins and AMC Heavyweight singles up until now but I fancy something a bit different from what I've already had but that isn't a Triumph ! - I'm thinking '56 or '57 A10 but I wouldn't say no to an A7.. Anyway, we'll see what pops up..!
@gavinspencer17962 жыл бұрын
By far the best presenter on this channel. We want more of Dave. 😬
@coobye2 жыл бұрын
Good to see Dave back.
@bundook3032 жыл бұрын
Good to see you back Dave. I hope you have some more "projects" in store. Cheers!
@trevgreen95152 жыл бұрын
Dave knows everything, I am inclined to open my ears !!
@ThePhatax2 жыл бұрын
So glad Dave is back! He’s so easy to watch! Very knowledgeable!
@johndonlon16112 жыл бұрын
Angus Campbell can sure show you BSAs that have been totally thrashed before he got them. Check out his videos on the A70 restoration, especially the teardown. The engine was just savaged before he started working his magic. What Dave says here is gospel.
@rexstewart61112 жыл бұрын
I had a C15 myself at age of 17. Loved the bike.
@Richard-pe4cx2 жыл бұрын
so did i , a c15 star
@PhilbyFavourites2 жыл бұрын
I must be five years younger, I had a 1976 Kawasaki KH250. A friend had a C15 because his dad said he wouldn’t help him buy Japanese. In my Dad’s defence he had an A10 with sidecar… Depending which side of the fence you fell when you were 17 defined what you rode and lusted after for the rest of your life. 1250GS in the garage now and almost every biking itch has been well and truly scratched, including Harleys one of which was the ‘73 Electraglide I drew on my school books. Never meet your hero’s……..
@rexstewart61112 жыл бұрын
@Phil B I had to sell my bikes when the family was young there was a KH250 sat at the side of a house I used to pass so I asked about it and got it as a non runner very cheap. I enjoyed that bike very much.
@PhilbyFavourites2 жыл бұрын
@@rexstewart6111 hi Rex, glad you had a good time on it. I got mine at 17 in the hot summer of 76 and followed behind my parents car on it when we went on a family trip from Portsmouth to Carlisle then Glasgow all via the A roads as I wasn’t to pass my test until the October of that year. My overriding memories are that it took nearly 50 miles of running for it to stop smoking puffing blue smoke and running clean (by about Newbury). I was covered head to foot in insects after the first day’s run to Carlisle (that doesn’t happen now - where are the insects) and finally the South of England was burnt to a straw coloured crisp. All of Carlisle was verdant green…. Glad I’m still a southerner with a bike 🤓🤓. Where do your KH take you?
@valveman28982 жыл бұрын
Nice one Dave, good to see you back
@edwardm92272 жыл бұрын
Amongst my biking mates when I started one had a B25 and two had the Starfire which I couldn't afford, ended up with a 58 Tiger Cub which I took to France and it rewarded me by seizing the big end!
@davemitchell24012 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave, I always enjoy watching this channel especially you working on or talking about classic bikes and not because we have the same name! :)
@lughole2 ай бұрын
Very useful thank you. I've only ridden 'modern' motorcycles, but have the inkling to buy my first classic during the winter for next spring. Shall check you the rest of your videos too... Again, thanks for the vid.
@pauliebots2 жыл бұрын
Hey Dave! We are in the middle of a nor'easter here on Long Island dumping over a foot of snow on us. Good to see this vid come up. I had no idea how many models BSA had. I'm a triumph man myself. Replica? Also new to me. Beautiful bikes, beautiful video! Thanks guys!
@TheClassicMotorcycleChannel2 жыл бұрын
Hey Paulie, yeah, a replica's where people make a bike from separate chassis and engine. It's a thing over here, you might have another term for it over there. Thanks for your support! Alex (Dave sees the comments)
@michaelwhite80312 жыл бұрын
Great video. I don't own a bike, but would love one of those .
@TheClassicMotorcycleChannel2 жыл бұрын
Right on Michael, thanks for watching the video :)
@precbsfender2 жыл бұрын
My first bike was a 1969 BSA 441 Victor special, great little thumper, always got me to where I was going without failure..
@magni1200 Жыл бұрын
Good summary. I had a 59 D7, 67 Thunderbolt and 36(?) M20 with girder forks and no rear suspension. Just thought I should say that the M20 did not like being ridden hard. It would seize if kept at 60mph for more than a few minutes. Just kept it at around 50 after the first couple of surprises :-0 Stripped and rebuilt both the D7 and M20. Easy to work on.
@rfmrs25062 жыл бұрын
Thanks fo sharing your extensive knowledge, one of each would be great!
@helenloughton24182 жыл бұрын
Had 3 bsa b31s lovely reliable bikes.a7ss nice machines a a500 good.bushman bantam was OK.c25 barracuda loved it but constant fettling .my advice any pre unit bsa is a great bike.
@MotoTvWoodsFarm2 жыл бұрын
enjoyed watching some great advice
@columbmurray7 ай бұрын
I'm now 80 years. My first bike in 1968 was a Starfire B25. I enjoyed it much and went everywhere in the UK. When I passed my test I traded it in , on the never never costing an arm and a leg ,, for the new Norton Commando . Worse decision , a lot of trouble and being small I never 'fitted' the bike. Wished I'd just kept the Starfire. There's a lesson here somewhere.
@jamesfanning52792 жыл бұрын
This video is the story of my biking life. Started on a second hand '67 model D10 Bantam which I had for six months covering 5000 miles round the country (totally reliable and easy to work on) , then bought a brand spanking new B25 Gold Star 250 on which passed my test in 1972 , then it was a '67 A65 Lightning 650 (reliable and rugged machine) and today a few decades later it's a genuine '62 A10 Rocket Gold Star in clubman trim for which I paid an eye watering sum but which provides huge enjoyment recreating those good old ton-up cafe racer days ! Despite three '70s decade Norton Commandos , a '59 G12 Matchless 650 , a modern Donington Norton 961 Commando and an Egli-Vincent along the way , always loved my BSAs.
@truethought3697 ай бұрын
The C25, had high comp piston, & could be a bad starter. Change piston to power max 8.5 to 1, no more problems. Personally I liked the C11G plunger. It had a longer wheelbase than the C15 with a lower seating position. Also the old M21 side valve, with tall gearing would be great for runs. As you can tell by my choices, I have a few more years under my belt. Thanks for your run down of BSAs, we are happy as people have kept these old bikes going in for us to enjoy today. Thanks again, 🇬🇧🔧😀
@EnglishVeteran2 жыл бұрын
I owned a B31 in my youth. Never let me down. Another good bike I’d say?
@andrewkitchenuk2 жыл бұрын
Same. Cruised 2 up at 60 all days and had no problems in 3 years of ownership.
@raymondlerat4252 жыл бұрын
I owned a B31 when I Was seventeen years old....in the Middle of the seventies...Perfect bike reliable..easy to ride every day...
@buxvan2 жыл бұрын
Passed my test on a D14 in 1980, had a couple of SS90'S which were great, have owned my 1970 Royal Star 500 since 1982. (Have had no timing side bush problems & it used to get regularly thrashed) Never had a Goldie but I've got a Yamaha SR500 & an XT500 & what great bikes.
@carlarthur44422 жыл бұрын
I had a 175 Bantam in the sixties the only thing that killed it was someone pulled out on me and that was the end of that . My cousin had a D1 . Great info 👍
@johnmarsh20782 жыл бұрын
For a single I always fancied the BSA 441 Shooting Star. Roller bottom end and TLS front brake. The power egg A50/A65 is a nice motor in single carb guise. Had both and never had the fabled timing side main bearing rumble. I'm sure it was because I changed the oil every month or 1000 miles. I got oil for free in the 70s.
@shingerz2 жыл бұрын
Great video im just running my a10 in after full rebuild ,these bikes handle brilliant for 62 year old im.out on it every chance i get can't fault it sounds great too ,shame you don't see many about maybe that's why I get a lot of strange looks when out on it 👍
@jonallaway20022 жыл бұрын
C15s are great (so are A10s). The C15G is the best one, if you can find one. Roller bearing, large journal big end, proper ball timing side bearing and end-fed crankshaft, points on the side. The C15SS80 was also a good one - as fast as the '80' claimed and with surprising acceleration.
@michaellawrence54922 жыл бұрын
Well grounded share of the BSA Thanks!
@artyfarty872 жыл бұрын
Some good insights in this video, thank you xoxo
@rayfoster69802 жыл бұрын
On my first day as a mechanic at the Triumph, BMW, dealership I had to help cut up and throw in the dumpster2 BMW Isettas and a pair of BSA Bantams.
@martinpye5492 жыл бұрын
c15 had a model called the sportsman, a version very rare and collectable. If you can find one, buy it. Was the sportier version. The A7SS is an absolute beauty, and you're bang on in regards to the a65. Terrific model. The earlier ones were more rounded and very pretty. Serviced regularly, they will last forever.
@rafaelpelizza57572 жыл бұрын
Que buen video como siempre..saludos Rafa de mardel plata Argentina
@Kevin-cy9cv2 жыл бұрын
I had a B40/SS90 when I was young, chrome mudguards, goldstar silencer, it was great. Until my friend traded in his D14 Bantam for a Triumph T90 I thought it was the best thing since sliced bread.
@buxvan2 жыл бұрын
I had 2 SS90's in the 80's.
@glyn8292 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed watching 👍 good advice there I've a C15 there's just something about it I like , I'd love a bigger twin one day
@stevec78762 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video, my late father had a 1960’s shooting star. I sold my last bike 2005, a fireblade. Now getting close to retirement thinking about following in the old mans footsteps. What do you reckon on a late shooting star please.
@billconnor1032 жыл бұрын
Love watching hope it all continues bill near Durham
@57eleven12 жыл бұрын
I had a 1967 Lightning given to me about 20 years ago as bonus for building a guys house. This was before all the barn find shows. We literally found it in a shed near the Atlanta prison downtown. He paid $500.00. I wasn’t a rider at the time and kept it for years but never got it running. It looked great but I was I too busy running a company so I sold it and I’ve regretted it since. I want to buy one. There’s one for sale in Colorado for $6,500. Seems like the going price for one in great shape. Are those fairly reliable? If I buy one I don’t want to be working on it all the time. I bought a 2013 T-100 Bonneville new and I’ve put 61,000 miles on it. The BSA style led me to the Triumph. I love it. Started riding at 51 years old. Better late then never lol Great video. Thx for sharing
@charleshealy13072 жыл бұрын
In the background, at the very beginning of this program, he had what looks like a triumph T160 Trident up on the stand. Now that is a motorcycle! The very pinnacle of that era of development, in my humble opinion.
@TheClassicMotorcycleChannel2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, we did a series on that bike, it was in a fairly bad state when it came to us. Thanks for watching Charles :)
@charliecoutts3003 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant and sound advice. Thanks very much! 😀
@Johnkels1002 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave Great to see you have developed your passion. C15 M21 memories. 😄
@7CAJONEZ2 жыл бұрын
The unit construction twins had small crank bearings and also were criticized for sloppy tolerances because BSA machine tools were worn out. Don't know. They just brought back the Goldstar in India but.....it is nothing like the DB34GS that I had. Wonderful thumper.
@garycb85922 жыл бұрын
Still enjoying my 71 Lightning. It's really a bitsa T-Bolt lower, Lightning head. Other non stock parts.
@lindsaymcpherson47442 жыл бұрын
Great video excellent advice the 1000cc G14 1937 is a favorite !!!
@alex-E7WHU6 күн бұрын
I had a BSA A7, loved it.⚒️
@dr.andreww.mintojnr.10592 жыл бұрын
Nice bikes and informative presentation. Could you comment (video, perhaps?) on the later BSA singles (early 70's b25 and b50 ranges)?
@1918952 жыл бұрын
I have a B50SS, purchased new from Floyd Emde, a dealer in San Diego in 1973. At that time the end was near for BSA as a manufacturer, but they supported the bike during the warranty and I had a reliable bike. The B50 engine was strong; it had 3 main bearings on the lower end, larger crank pin, forged piston, shotpeened connecting rod, thicker cases, upgraded transmission bearing and gear cluster and a upgraded oil pump (shared with the big twins). In another words a much stronger engine than the B44 it was based on. Once the drill was established first kick starts were the norm. From what I have learned the total production of the B50 platforms was 5760 which make them somewhat rare. From what I have seen the final year(s) models of M/C made by BSA/Norton/Triumph were the best with the overdue upgrades installed, but it was too little, too late as we all know.
@nathansealey62702 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed watching it my great grandfather was a huge bsa fan until his death in the 1990s. & the A50-65’s were & still are hugely popular over in the states, they were used heavily in flat-track racing & sprint/drag racing as well as desert racing. They is still alot of information on performance modifications kicking about, the only real issue I have heard with these particular engines is crank end play from worn trust bearings. Bsa could easily be compared to Honda for reliability for its day.
@richardcovello53672 жыл бұрын
I heard they will chew up rod bearings if used for sustained highway speeds (60-70mph). Happened to a friend of mine- round trip from Niagara to Toronto & back (150 mi). Made it there, kacked on the way home.
@piersmarchington Жыл бұрын
Great video, would it be possible to do some more in depth buying guides. Especially the M20 ;) thanks
@julianburgess69472 жыл бұрын
I had a BSA Lightening.So unreliable, needed two major overhauls in 40,000 miles. One of the happiest days of my life was when I looked out the window and found it had been stolen. Julian
@columbmurray7 ай бұрын
Sad
@claimnumber5152 жыл бұрын
My second bike was a BSA Bantam 125cc 1952. I paid 2 pounds for it. My first bike was a Corgi 98cc paratroupers bike which I swapped for an RAF pilots dingy I found on a dump. The Bantam started first time every time. I was only 9 years old. Happy days.
@grahamclarke13192 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a really interesting informative video Dave. i owned a A65 Thunderbolt with a Watsonian double adult sidecar but unfortunately sold the outfit back in 85. Im now toying with the idea of trying to get hold of one again preferably with a sidecar . Really miss the sound of that lovely engine.
@keithagn2 жыл бұрын
Please do more project bikes for us! Thank you! Regards from Canada
@TheClassicMotorcycleChannel2 жыл бұрын
Hi Keith, we did some filming with Dave this week actually. This video is over on our second channel and it's just a test for another style of video we have in mind, but we thought we'd share it with people. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iGXcXqOna7eNg7s
@keithagn2 жыл бұрын
@@TheClassicMotorcycleChannel Great! Thank you, I will watch it as soon as I can!
@londonglide2 жыл бұрын
Had a 1968 B25 when I was a lad. Pretty sure it wasn't a Starfire, it didn't have the Starfire side panels. Engine was rebuilt at a shop in Fulham, and I remember getting a train up to London, and carrying the engine back home on my own, in a cardboard box......
@neophobiagarage18452 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that ! Very good video. Always thought Moto Guzzi had the best sound.....🤔 hmmm.....
@stefanpaege20462 жыл бұрын
I like the scene with the M20 speeding on a country lane… Only one question though: How long did it take you to reach that speed? (please specify in hours) 😀😃😄😁😆😅😂🤣
@matthewburgess68982 ай бұрын
I ya I'm thinking of buying a bsa super rocket have you got thoughts on what I need to look for plz
@lindawilson8132 жыл бұрын
What about the A7 and B31 good alround bikes
@Bananassking2 жыл бұрын
How about the 650 golden flash?
@WilliamBHickock-kj4yy Жыл бұрын
In the USA we call that putting lipstick on a pig 🐷!! Out of all the motorcycles I've owned and I had one I could get back, it would be the 1970 BSA A50 Royal Star 500.Those bikes also included a 1972 BSAA75 Rocket Three 750.
@MyMax1472 жыл бұрын
1960 BSA A7 500 Classic, Extensively Rebuilt Engine With Bent L/H Valve Is this hard to fix, any idea of price to fix it or is it something I could do as a DIY Thanks
@Mike40M Жыл бұрын
Being a Norton man, my first BSA was a B34 Gold Star. Disappointing handling and hard to start. Then a B44 Victor Special which died in a barn fire after 13 years. Now has a B40WD and two B44VS. All runs well. Pleasant bikes but not suited for longer distances or hard cornering. For touring I prefer the Vincent and for track the Manx.
@wschell4023 Жыл бұрын
Hi. Love your channel and learn a lot. I’m hoping you can help me with my project. I’ve just acquired a 1957 Square Four. I’m in Canada so will have to source spares online for the most part. Can you help me locate any Ariel parts suppliers?
@jog7940 Жыл бұрын
I bought my son a restored 1968 BSA Bantam D14/4. Having problems starting it due to incorrect fuel mixture I believe. Any advice on getting mixture right would be appreciated. Thanks.
@bsastarfire2506 ай бұрын
I've got a Starfire , very pretty , bike and reliable if not thrashed.
@davebarrowcliffe1289 Жыл бұрын
20 years from now, who's going to look after these fabulous machines?
@LeifDjurfeldt2 ай бұрын
I have a bit of a soft spot for the late 50s Golden Flash
@Mikethebike7212 жыл бұрын
I loved my Starfire but the leaking oil issue drove me to get rid of it.
@patrickdoake60222 жыл бұрын
Last c15s had roller bearings 66 67 period reckoned to be best c15
@hrd998cc2 ай бұрын
Yes had a 1967 C15 (1972)that someone messed with the oil pump and killed the big end roller bearing, paid AUS $65. Replaced the b.e. bearing ($35 + $5 for truing & alignment) and rebuilt the bike. A great little bike to learn everything on when you are seventeen and little money. Very fond memories.
@dago_07302 жыл бұрын
Newbie question. Were BSAs cheaper than Triumph or Norton, back then?
@robertadams44152 жыл бұрын
In my 20s I had a 650 thunder bolt thought it was a good bike
@cameronrichardson31082 жыл бұрын
Grandpa pal has a BSA rocket gold star clubman it’s gorgeous it will do 60mph in 1st gear 😂he’s done various period upgrades to it, I have a royal Enfield bullet 350 could never afford a BSA
@pm2701002 жыл бұрын
good ho got an old 53/54 A10 flashi need help to get her going
@DonLeist19 күн бұрын
I envy this dude!
@georgegould6672 ай бұрын
Do you like the A65 better than A10 ?
@bharatc.sampat640611 ай бұрын
Wonderful
@MrPatch256 ай бұрын
what about the A7 shooting star 500
@nordland22352 жыл бұрын
They sound soooo gooood.🙂
@tinymotogarage2 жыл бұрын
How about a video like this but bikes to take on the track 🙂
@TheClassicMotorcycleChannel2 жыл бұрын
Good idea!
@martincvitkovich7242 жыл бұрын
Thunderbolts Rule
@wideyxyz2271 Жыл бұрын
sage advice
@andrewpreston41272 жыл бұрын
As I recall, from back in the day, late '60's and early '70's... I don't recall C15's being referred as 'strong bikes'. I do recall it being said that sooner or later, they would run their big ends. Which is exactly what happened with my 1962 C15. The later B25's and C25's, as they came out of the factory, were tuned to the point that they were just about hand grenades. ( Somewhere around 25 bhp, compared to the 15 bhp of the C15 ).
@ianh.6825 Жыл бұрын
If you asked a child to draw a motorcycle, I think something that looked like the A50 / A65 would be the result. This isn't a criticism. I think they look great.
@pedrothewise25842 жыл бұрын
I got stopped on a Francis Barnet 150 plover only 15 no papers wasn't exactly a getaway bike.
@therollingwheelz4 ай бұрын
i got BSA c16
@johnsmith57262 жыл бұрын
What no A7 SS, you mean my pride and joy is not your pride and joy too, I am crestfallen to say the least. I think I will subscribe, just to teach you a lesson. :-)
@Richard-pe4cx2 жыл бұрын
would the A65/A50 be the last all new designed engine to come out of the UK before the collapse of the old bike manufacturers ?
@needparalegal2 жыл бұрын
Being in the USA our only affordable vintage bikes are Harleys.
@butlindsayforge5403 Жыл бұрын
Replaced dozens of those horrible timing side bushes in the sixties and ground the journals.on the twins.....put me off for life. Prefer a triumph or norton.
@TheBikerDodge9 ай бұрын
So, buy a Bantam, sell it, lose money. Buy a C15, sell it, lose money. Buy a B40, sell it. lose money. Buy an A10, sell it, lose money. Buy the bike you want and put the money you would've lost into that.
@markellott56202 жыл бұрын
My first bike was a C15 SS. It was horrible. Had been used and abused, which wasn't the bikes fault. The cotter pin on the kickstart sheared on a regular basis and the points kept slipping round, which were design faults so something to watch for. If I was to buy a British classic again, I'd go for a pre unit model.