6 Old School Melee Legends That Have Still Got It

[@MrJr01]

NOW... HE WILL TRY. This sentence will be inextricably linked with melee and KDJ for eternity. I just love it.

[@frozenfeet4534]

what is the origin of that?

[@dalenash2623]

@@frozenfeet4534 Smash documentary

[@MrJr01]

@@frozenfeet4534 Try typing it in the youtube searchbar and see which video comes up first. ;)

[@Antoniyoshi]

more like Hbox just... wins

[@rk9515]

M2K still with the most legendary no popoff, popoff.

[@Kaemble]

He didn't popoff beacuse he thought it was winner's finals.

[@rk9515]

@@Kaemble I think he know ge was I grand finals. He was just in total shock that he won.

[@DarkLeviathan8]

Didn’t he say himself that he thought it was winners final tho?

[@NetConsole]

Blazerp, that can't be true. Surely he must have remembered beating both Armada and Leffen beforehand. Plus, the fact that he played Armada right after Armada beat Zain, there would have been many matches inbetween if they were playing winners finals. Plus the fact that he warmed up vs Mango's Jigglypuff beforehand because Hbox looked like he was gonna make GFs from losers run.

[@KotalaGod]

The reverse popoff

[@Joseju]

Sometimes I wish we could see what Isai would do with current knowledge and tech. Everybody in this video is a legend and I'm glad they're still playing.

[@thewindysage1538]

I guess we only have imagination in our side as he simply prefers 64 I think he wouldn't just body everyone as his fame was earned in melee's early stage so people in general are better now Ps:madre mía joseju,como tú por aquí?

[@ChivosCanal]

Amigo Joseju, ya veo como hablas tan bien del melee en tus videos, saludos de un sub

[@nathaparedes7828]

Joseju has un video de melee más profundo mira el documental smash brothers

[@leandrocerrano]

stremea melee pls

[@emmbeesea]

Ken vs PC Chris at the Apex 2015 Salty Suite still stands as one of my favourite Melee sets ever. Perfect sportsmanship from two legends of this game. True role models.

[@Jerome616]

i still think he gave it up to Chris at the end... my head cannon.

[@SlushTV]

Obligatory comment about how Chu never ages

[@blunttrauma5300]

He's a fucking vampire

[@rufusburnesheath3695]

chu never ages

[@jacobhosier4568]

Thats because IC players don't have souls.

[@aspiknf]

Tru dat about ChuDat.

[@Avatarbutters]

Yayuhhz his way to infinity

[@Boyzby]

As someone who only started watching Melee 3 or 4 years ago, it seems insane that stages like Big Blue and Brinstar were ever competitive stages. lol

[@arielgonzalez008]

Makes for some interesting matches, at least

[@stuna210]

That was more like 8 years ago.

[@GeneralErlend]

I think its insane that Stadium is still a competitive stage.

[@reNINTENDO]

@@GeneralErlend There are no hazards and the transitions have warnings. It's not without some jank but it's stayed a counterpick stage for a reason. Plus even with it's more questionable aspects, it's hard to argue the stage hasn't led to some hype as hell moments.

[@GeneralErlend]

@@reNINTENDO I definitely agree that it has had hype moments, but I still technically don't see a reason why it should be a legal stage. It favors Fox heavily in both PAL and especially in NTSC for one, and even with the warnings it more often than not goes down to a grinding halt during transitions, where no player wants to commit on offense, thus both just stand there camping and poking. It doesn't have hazards like Brinstar (except the occasional glitch) and such, so there is a valid argument there going for keeping stadium. Other than that, I think the arguments against it are more favorable than for keeping it. Just my opinion though.

[@sly7638]

“ken has the lead but...azen can come back with a combo” man what beautiful commentary we used to have

[@AiakosVids]

did MLG ever use commentators that knew anything about Melee? They always sound so generic.

[@joelmankinen]

@@AiakosVids he was wife

[@mlalbaitero]

@Lanturn nah

[@gpcclg]

Chillin was so fit in 2014 holy shit

[@Sgobbotinou74]

That arms

[@whispy2127]

Dude got extra thick now lol

[@kion9001]

never recovered from his b

[@Gillatronn]

Kiran Amuthan lmao

[@oliviawallace3636]

@@kion9001 o o f

[@arielgonzalez008]

I love how Mew2King was in such disbelief in the last clip of him

[@spootot]

I'm not up to that clip yet but I already know what it's going to be

[@codysterling9974]

spoot same And it was crazy. Like I’m not sure if he thought he had another set or game to play. But it was so nice to see.

[@stormycd392]

Man, I wish Azen had more time to play smash and games in general. He used to play on stream about a year ago and we used to just chat on twitch. Really cool dude. Hope he updates his blog again.

[@mrm64]

I'll always love the first and second generation of Melee. Folks like Ken, PC Chris, M2K, Korean DJ, ChuDat, Chillin, Azen, Isai, Wes, etc. I remember seeing videos of them back in 2006 from the MLG days and the documentary made me appreciate them for what they did for Smash before the Smash gods.

[@ManuelPersona24]

Me too :)

[@dapowa9119]

10:26 top 10 clutchbox handshakes

[@billuminati3867]

Bless you GR for 18 min of Melee content, you are the true savior.

[@loveinmycomments]

I just want to watch the 4 doc heroes on camera again talking about life. I want to know what they do now after smash

[@PlayerPunisher]

Timothy Youngfellow idk about that one. They’re nerds from a different era. From what I’ve seen, they’re super socially awkward

[@TheShangryLlamas]

@@PlayerPunisher not pc, he just keeps low profile, dude was a skater lol

[@loveinmycomments]

@@PlayerPunisher they all talk tho, there was the isai interview

[@protectdavidchasetaylor2144]

Probably work boring but decent jobs and have families lol

[@katfiddler7971]

Love how chillin's only appearances are him getting bodied

[@zubat0532]

when i hear the comentator say "congratulations to pc chris" i instantly remember that camera shot sound effect with a picture of pc chris holding the prize

[@elysianpositron661]

None of those players except M2K and chudat can still keep it up LMAO

[@AbsoPS]

Future Sentinel m2k*

[@Faulheit]

You sure about Chu?

[@Mark-oe1df]

@@Faulheit yea it seems like he hit a wall for the pass year

[@ZacMuffin]

Mjay Dunn He just got 9th at the mango and 3rd at dreamhack. He’ll definitely be top 50 this PGR, I don’t think so

[@bigevilshark1958]

@@ZacMuffin He did really good at Shine too

[@MattC-jg1yb]

Ehh the "new" azen footage is still pretty old. Seriously, when was the last time Chillindude was that skinny??

[@drifter402]

Shame he never really made that comeback properly

[@mlalbaitero]

I mean it's new compared to when he was in his prime, like 7 years ish

[@Hunteresting.]

EE commentating melee and Chillin isn't fat? What century is this footage from?

[@SabreOfficial]

LMAOOO

[@MattC-jg1yb]

Dude went from Chillidude to Krillindude to Grillindude

[@waavy6907]

Actually, Chillen was way fat, then got slim, and is now just thicc lol

[@waavy6907]

@@Hunteresting. You got me there brother lol

[@waavy6907]

@@Hunteresting. But if you go look at 7:17, that's chillen at his utmost thicc lol

[@SouprSpookr]

I can tell you one person who isn’t in here. Mang0

[@JavBarcaCoppiSol8]

PepeHands

[@gilmanator01]

No shiz, or ppmd either.

[@moraigna66]

I think mang0 is just slightly newer than all of those.

[@GreyValkyrie]

Mango is a bit newer

[@Gender_Ascender]

Mang0 started after M2K, but Shiz should've been there imo.

[@bungholethrombosis]

I just wanna see a tournament where all these legends attend, so the modern melee crowd can get a blast of the past can't wait to see some old names at the 10th anniversary wombo combo tournament

[@insertidentifierhere2001]

Tournament concept : Melee Generations. A tournament where both the old and new era of Melee duke it out against each others

[@jdk3096]

50 Blessings member I know I’m late to this, but what about a Smash Summit: Old School? They invite all the old top players and can crowd fund players who were top players in the 2004-2006 era Invited Players: 1. Ken 2. PC Chris 3. KoreanDJ 4. Mew2king 5. Azen 6. Chillindude 7. Chudat 8. Captain Jack And they can get Husband and Wife commentating

[@Jerome616]

It's kind of a blow-out for the old school people, they just are not as practiced anymore and thus are less likely to agree to show up just to look bad at such a big event.

[@xMrxsunshinex]

I love how humbly smug azen gets when he knows how sick he's being

[@aspiknf]

Same with Ken XD

[@taylorbee4010]

I remember back in like 2007 players used to wave dash a lot more. I remember the common idea being that wave dashing was just better than any kind of other movement

[@sylveoness]

Wouldn't it be a beautiful day if any of these guys came back like how PP did, and won a major?

[@TUZOIVAN16]

Romonn I want Ken back winning EVO.

[@2Minihats]

Chudat yeeyuz at 15:33 kills me everytime

[@myjapanesejourney-6926]

For all the old school Melee legends that came back, I've never seen any of them face-off against each other recently. Would love to see some Ken vs Azen, PC Chris vs Ken, etc. Even if it's just a Salty Suite or whatever, it'd be a blast.

[@captainfalconmain6576]

Pc Chris faced ken an apex 2015 for a sultry suit

[@aspiknf]

@@captainfalconmain6576 *salty suite

[@versutus2699]

10:01 i 100% thought that was going to be a crossup turnaround grab. Ken is a smart boi

[@shady8045]

The commentators saying that Marth wins against fox on stadium is really funny.

[@Underr4t3d]

Lol

[@alishademan5452]

also these wholesome popoffs always make me feel good man please give me a GRsmash: top ten wholesome popoffs

[@TheGreatMrKid]

They really hit us with the Zidane Bebop "Now, he will try" hahahaha

[@jacobtherobertson]

M2ks smash career outlasted his hair

[@1Nostrand1]

2:27 Who's this fit looking guy with Chillindudes name underneath?

[@overipecanine1485]

3:57 to witness the King.

[@shrimshaymin7040]

I remember PC Chris was a BEAST

[@aspiknf]

So was Bombsoldier!

[@marktimanovsky5348]

But where's Pokefloats?

[@albelkimera3195]

No fun allowed

[@itsbmeGaming]

Somehow I missed this. Thankfully I have corrected this mistake!

[@corn5749]

*I’m not gonna lie. I came here just for Ken*

[@NinjaGamer820]

When were all of these?? I needa see me some modern day Ken and PC Chris Falco 💦

[@ariesomega2487]

The shine 2017 set of Kdj was epic too. A three stock and a 4 stock in 80 Sec.

[@fortuneunfaded]

melee has evolved so much over the years , it's absolutely insane.

[@Fr3unen]

12:26 holy sh't that combo was nasty

[@lobcity49]

How the heck was Mute City ever legal??

[@ivancastro365]

That Ken plup set is so sick

[@aplsed]

9:06 HOLY SHIT, that quality. MLG had money money

[@Heebie-Deebies]

After that Mew2King present day clip, I could really use "LolMew2King Moments #4"

[@kuraisora364]

In a couple more years a video like this will be made about the current gods.

[@alphajnitro0072]

3:02 Thats a really really good transition

[@snocoldman]

Even DP couldnt get salty at that last combo, Azen played sick.

[@DerpsGW]

Seeing Armada playing legit made me sad. It's only been like 2 and a half months and I already miss him.

[@exiled5160]

Wow chu showed a lot pf respect to m2k, i didn't see him yeahyuz(however you spell it lol)

[@ChiChuNug]

Lotta levels of chillin in this vid i miss armada

[@Ganondward]

Thanks, now I feel old.

[@sharsasuke01]

PC Chris went from skater boy to HR Manager. lol

[@imrichiwc]

3:45 Chillin is sniffing his water bottle.

[@edgar8316]

Ubo 🤣

[@bonesinjonesin]

his b

[@SIMIFU]

Man...apex 2015 was the peak wasn't it?

[@rodrigojre98]

agree,it was my first tournament and I will never forget it

[@ineffablelime1953]

Not at all

[@likeerhater3]

So many great things happened that Tournament. Nostalgia match-ups, Leffen v. Chillen 5-0, Leffen v. Mango $1000 money match, the return of PPMD and his rise to champion, etc.

[@TheShangryLlamas]

I wish i could have gotten into Melee a few years earlier. Those were magical times. It's too e-sports now. Which is good for the players of course, but it definitely doesn't feel the same.

[@jalene150]

My boy shiz deserves the title og legend. He had to take a very long time off from the game and still caught up

[@scumkat1920]

BUT WHERE IS "TOP 10 GRSMASH ARE U WATCHING" VID AT?

[@aki5876]

and yet, you don't have CaptainJack and Bombsoldier

[@JusticeForPottsvilleMaroons]

15:40 Top 10 saddest anime deaths

[@MyAce8]

Azen's Marth I think is still one of the best marths to look at as a new player. He's just all fundamentals.

[@megamariostriker]

Thanks for the upload, GR

[@MXmiao]

Melee is my favourite game by far, I'm low-level but as a former high-level athlete, have been dying to know - given the lesser component of (aerobic & anaerobic) physicality in esports VS more fitness-based sports, I would've guessed that career longevity in melee (and I guess many esports) would be long, more like I don't know poker than say MotoGP. What is the main reason most of these 'old-school' greats ( e.g. PC, Ken, KDJ, Azen) have dropped away from the top level? Is it mainly hard for them to retool some outdated approach or skillset - if so, what specifically? Is it mainly that indeed they're past their prime of physical stress endurance and motorskill/reactions? Or is it despite still being physically capable, they're mentally burned out in terms of drive? (If so, could they have been just as good as the current best if they had started later, around the same time e.g. as big six?) I am so so curious to hear experienced insights. Thanks and much respect!

[@lipsticklicker4578]

as you get older when you play a game as fast paced as melee, your reflexes start to become stagnant and you start falling from your peak, just like any athlete would. this shit puts a lot of stress on you in general and seeing these people back after 20 years is crazy

[@PKWinning07]

Super interesting topic! Gets brought up a lot during discussions of "best players of all time", there are a few factors involved with it. Basically the level of play advances a pretty significant amount every year at every level of play because of new meta developments, and new training mods (e.g. 20XX and UnclePunch) help new players learn and practice techniques at a rate and efficiency way beyond anything the game has seen before. Newer players are basically able to learn things "right" the first time giving them a headstart, and the sheer number of players we have now compared to back then makes placing in top 32 nowadays probably harder than placing top 8 back then. Players who take a break (or chose not to continue adapting and labbing) have neither the advantage of veterans who have consistently pushed and followed the meta over time, nor do they have the advantage of players like Zain who have started with clean technique and no habits leftover from older metas.

[@aspiknf]

@@lipsticklicker4578 Lipsticklicker is right. Ken, for example, had carpal tunnel syndrome so he gets pain nowadays when he plays. Plus when you retire for a while, like Ken, the metagame evolves quickly so he has had to adapt to the new metagame. Plus he perhaps doesn't have enough drive anymore...same with a lot of the oldschool greats like Azen, ChillenDude, PC Chris, ChuDat. The competition also gets better as years go by. But they are still top 100, maybe all top 50.

[@aspiknf]

@@PKWinning07 Yes, you make good points.

[@ashtonparrish]

1 old school legend who still doesnt got it: chillin

[@awarebear7938]

Wtf was ken like crazy good back then? Seems like he played very calulated. Maybe better than most marths nowadays

[@captainfalconmain6576]

Yea look at those combos better than most marths

[@aspiknf]

Ken's nickname is The King of Smash because of his dominance in the early noughties...from around 2001 to 2006. He also won Evo 2007. He recently went 13th in a recent EVO.

[@jorge111juarez]

... I wanna watch the Documentary for the millionth time now...

[@MeshTheSnake]

I'll never forget that xandu where azen came and ran a train on that bracket

[@Datnigganeo]

My boy EE has to be at least 30, especially if he was a commentator back in the melee days

[@TheTozotube]

AMAZING VID IDEA

[@LordKirtash]

Thanks for another great video.

[@sirhawkjames]

dude LOOK AT CHILLIN 2:32 what a CHAD

[@ThunderDong]

PC WE LOVE YOU

[@-snek.]

spoonfeed me pls

[@Sys_Glitch404]

this sound wrong lol

[@SleepKingStreams]

This.... Is epic. We need a Smash Month of sorts. Like Zelda month on PBG's channel.

[@MATTierial]

That last game with KDJ... How?

[@kinanschannel6016]

I was just watching the smash doc This seems fitting

[@ParagonPKC]

Poor chillin was just a plot device for this whole thing when he's still kicking :(

[@dorohime7001]

You're a fuckin genius for that last edit

[@redwarrior118]

M2k and Chudat are timeless

[@MageKirby]

Shit like this is what makes a long running game life great. All the history!

[@fangiscool1]

These old guys could probably be top smash ultimate players

[@siegelink9549]

Ken for Survivor Season 40!

[@azrael9561]

Mute City has the best combos of any stage!

[@aspiknf]

Good music too

[@okseiya]

What is the smash documentary everyone is talking about

[@CykaBlyatAlex]

A documentary from a while back. Talking about the origins of melee to the death and rise of it as well. It's really well made, pretty long but goes into great details and really gets into detail of the players it focuses on. It's all on KZbin.

[@Chimpmanboom]

Does PC Chris stream? Would love to watch him watch the doc

[@sasquatchka]

Azen is so cute when he wins

[@bilalgill6722]

10:25 Prince used to be Drake???

[@rockyino99]

"who have still got it" >shows clips from 3 years ago

[@dirtymike7290]

My favorite player is... AHHHZEN

[@JorgetheLuchadore]

7:15 Chillin'? More like spillin' outta them pants gottem boys 5-0

[@noodletribunal9793]

yo, chudat's 2005 ic. for 2005 that was sick AS FUCK

[@DrPootis]

I dont think I've ever seen M2K play fox before

[@BrandonYugioh]

18 days til ultimate!!!

[@christianantillon3305]

LMAO yeah never thought I would find a comment of this here

[@azrael9561]

17 now :)

[@shrimshaymin7040]

One week...

[@NightMare_SSB]

Its out

[@typhlosion7872]

I wish Neo would come back

[@jannicwestrich1290]

4:54 NICE BACK AIR

[@clutchedbyanangel]

M2K winning Summit makes me cry

[@DrummerBoyJustin]

Can we have another player with a kdj play style please. His play style is so fun to watch for me for some reason.

[@Darksilver740]

Hold on... Chudat beat *Armada* using *IC vs Peach* as *SoPo* ..... this man deserves some respect.

[@8dreadLock8]

old stuff here needs to be updated ^^

[@MINISWISS1]

Miss the golden era

[@Supeon]

*Nice back air!* 4:55