6: Siege The Board Game Detailed Review!

[@ahmednajmi8326]

Thank you for doing this review !! This is one of the only full detail reviews of this game on the entirety of KZbin.

[@philgee486]

Thanks for exactly the detail level I'd like from a review. Game sounds great, pacy and innovative, a great recreation of the IP. The minis and game parts also look ideal for any sort of modern skirmish game, be it tabletop or houseclearing, I'm guessing mine will see service against zombies, vampires and cultists...

[@TheKingofAverage]

HAH! That's an awesome idea :D

[@TheLastHardrada]

"Screw you Mute, you're dead now" 26:35 That quote with the way you said it was the best thing I've heard in ages. Wonderful review.

[@TheKingofAverage]

Hah! Thanks man glad you liked it :)

[@BoardGameCo]

Glad you enjoyed this one as well :) I was interested in the IP but skeptical....but wow it got me. Really solid.

[@TheKingofAverage]

Funny, everyone I know has said the same thing. After my wife played she said "I really enjoyed that more than I thought I would" which were my sentiments as well :)

[@masterwongshifu]

Absolutely love the honest review. Really seems like you played it quite a bit before reviewing as well! Checked your channel first even though there were a million on the KS

[@stevie3156]

Again, such a holistic and exhaustive review, thankful to be here and get a bunch of impressions and opinions. Thank you! To be honest, I think it would be awesome to have a modular room gameboard, instead of fixed layouts - but thats only a feeling for variety, lets wait for the campaign.

[@TheKingofAverage]

Glad to hear it! :D Yeah I can understand that desire. For this one I feel it'd just add to an already long setup time, but perhaps there are ways to say, put each building as part of 3 boards or some such. The issue with that actually I think is the IP - these are some of the actual maps in the game :)

[@stevie3156]

@@TheKingofAverage Building-modular boards - thats a cool idea!? this way you could maybe also setup different "levels" of a mansion or even underground connected area... omg, already dreaming :P

[@Vascariz]

Yeah fixed layouts is a MUCH better idea for setup. And balance too.

[@georgistefanov1305]

Hi! Thanks for the detail review! Your videos helped me at least two times now to pick the game that its right for me!(The Monster hunter video and the Withcher video)Thank you again for the hard work you do and for awes replaying to my comments! Just wanted to tell you that and help with the algorithm a little :D.

[@TheKingofAverage]

Sign up for Otis with my link withotis.app.link/e/KingofAverage and get your first share free when you fund your account - terms apply. ***Updates: Rules have been clarified, you take the tokens you score for victory points so you can easily keep track. That's one con down! :)

[@ReZ-ReZ47]

This looks amazing, great review! I play this game for my college's esports team so I can't wait to get it (all in kickstart of course) and play with the boys.

[@TheKingofAverage]

Oh see that's super cool you'll be able to do that :)

[@Brannen666]

Backed it... looking forward to playing my buddy. The two of us played plenty of siege together. I think this really captures the feel.

[@SteveOw0]

Thanks for the detailed review. The game looks like a lot of fun.

[@TheKingofAverage]

I certainly enjoyed it :)

[@stephenjones8105]

I was already planning on backing this, but after this review and all the others I've seen, I feel like this one will be another solid purchase. thanks as always for your hard work on the videos.

[@TheKingofAverage]

You are very welcome, glad I could help you feel comfortable in your decision :)

[@renniebeaton2474]

Great review once again, thank you. This looks like something I would love to get, but it has become impossible for me to justify backing Mythic's games just because of shipping costs. Backed SFB part 2 for $50 and was charged $80 for shipping (to South Africa). Don't even want to mention my other fully backed Mythic games shipping costs because people will think I was mad to have payed it. Truly Sad :(

[@freedom2663]

The shipping is really insane. It's a big reason to not back a game that looks hell of fun. I'm in the US it's not as bad. But shipping is nearly 50% of the game.

[@GarranTana]

Damn you King! I was not planning to back this!

[@ronaldlawrence8879]

I know. I was not either..until the review..m

[@TheKingofAverage]

Same if that helps at all :D I went from a "yeah sure I suppose I can unbox it" to "I want to play this every day for a while" which was very unexpected for me!

[@afinchy1972]

You talked me into at as well. Happy to be talked into something by the king.

[@Grognard-Solo-Gaming]

Great video as always! 👍 I’m way more interested in this than thought I’d be, will follow the campaign for sure 🙂

[@TheKingofAverage]

Same! :)

[@SinéadMurphy73]

Thanks for this great review I wasnt sure if the board game would be as good as the actual one but I'm definitely gonna get it after this video!

[@TheKingofAverage]

Glad I could help you make a good decision for you. I had a lot of fun with it!

[@silvarknite7]

Im very interested in this. Looks like a nice little intro into skirmish wargaming for board gamers.

[@TheKingofAverage]

Yeah I can see that. If you can play this at this speed then you're 100% able to play a full tabletop wargame. Those give you more time on your turn, but more options as well. Either way the ability to quickly see what you want to do and then implement it in a pretty reasonable way is key :)

[@lMrJackl]

As someone looking at this and coming from playing the video game siege, and every review I've seen is super positive, I hope it will bring new players to the video game too.

[@TheKingofAverage]

The skins might help :D

[@defiantj975]

Sounds like an insta back for me. I've wasted too much of my life on the video game. Now its time to waste it on the boardgame. 😂

[@TheKingofAverage]

Hopefully it can prove less toxic of an experience at times then :D

[@kyleb8117]

I'm so excited for this Kickstarter. I'm nervous about the all-in cost, but I already know I'm likely going all-in. Hopefully we can get all/many of the ops and maps, but something I loved about the video game is you can just keep replaying the same map and same objectives over and over and over and it'll be different every time, not just as you learn the skills, but also as you see more combinations of ops against each other and how they interact or change the map. Another reviewer had a laser to check sight and I'm hoping that's what comes in the base game. I think I'd hold the ruler in the air and measure from above. Moving everything is just too much work. But yeah, like you said, you only need to really check it if it gets challenged. I don't think it'll be a big deal either way.

[@dorklord1303]

All hail to the king great review

[@TheKingofAverage]

Hah! Thanks Nick I'm glad you enjoyed it :)

[@Anty2004]

This game had piqued my interest so I was really happy when I saw you were covering it. Thanks for the good unbiased review 👍

[@greggconsidine5884]

Omg dude wasn’t overly keen on this but now it’s a must have. You are too good at your job.

[@chewbones7550]

I've put many, many hours into Siege. I ranked in the top 10% of players in the world recently. I'm so excited for this game, and if anyone ever has questions about what the video game is like, I'd be happy to try and answer!

[@TheKingofAverage]

It'd be way cool to see if any of that translated to the board game! I think they did a great job on it.

[@chewbones7550]

@@TheKingofAverage one of the things I’m most interested to see is if they capture the dynamic of operator’s gadgets countering other operators. So for instance Bandit counters Thermite but Thatcher counters Bandit but Bandit can reverse counter Thatcher. I’d love to see mechanics like that in the game.

[@freedom2663]

@@chewbones7550 I heard top players kinda hated it after a while due to the meta. Is the game still going strong?

[@chewbones7550]

@@freedom2663 from a meta standpoint the game has never been better. The majority of attackers have utility clearing gadgets now, which has really leveled the playing field and has (mostly) killed the 20 second meta, where attackers would spend the entire round clearing utility and then have to rush site with 20 seconds left and just try to win their gunfights. The main issue at high ranks is the cheater issue, which is out of control… And streamers are starting to flock away from siege due to the fact that stream sniping is awful and there’s still not a streamer mode in the game….

[@stevelikestowrite885]

The timer and the overwatch rules remind me of Space Hulk, and the map reminds me of HeroQuest :) Looks like they took some inspiration and made a much better game. My concerns are: 1) For beginners, being timed seems that it will make rule mess-ups a lot more common. 2) It looks set up that you absolutely need to play against someone of equal skill/experience level or you will be crushed by someone who knows the rules better and is experienced with the angles etc. 3) Even though you talk about how much the map changes throughout the game, I hope they have more maps. The second problem can be solved I think by having timer handicaps: less experienced/skilled players could be afforded more time to make decisions. Like an easy/normal/hard mode for each player, giving 9 different styles of play just from changing the timer up.

[@TheKingofAverage]

They even mentioned space hulk to me so you aren't wrong ;) 1. They suggest you play without timers at first and each map and game variant has an optional pre-deployment where it shows you were to put all of your people so that's nice :) Can't speak for new people and rules messups except to say it's pretty straight forward. There's not a ton of mechanics to remember or anything and even when timed you are allowed to pause if you need to take care of kids/look up a rule/eat pizza/whatever :) 2. Yes, but only kind of. Like any technical job, the key to success is problem solving and a good eye. Since it has a high skill ceiling there's definitely room to have someone who just knows the game better to do better, but the overall secret sauce is just seeing those opportunities and acting on them. That is, it's not so much that you can overwatch that tiny room to perfect as in my example, but seeing the gap - and there's almost always a gap. For instance I'm not away of a way to perfectly overwatch that room with 2 units. You can get close, but not perfect. Even a newer player can see the imperfection and act on it. But yeah there's certainly that gap that can be the case - something I should mention in video next time I mention "skill ceiling" as not everyone might pick up on what I mean by that :) 3. I've been assured they do and totally 100% agreed! Skirmish games live and breath by options. Great idea about the timers! Every time I played someone new I had no timer and offered lots of options/advice to them (normally making me lose lol) but while you can pick different times for skill level, it's not per player in the app yet - I'll let Mythic Games know about that :)

[@Exoc3tBOOM]

1) you can modify the timers on the app to give one player more time than the other, so the more experienced player you can really put them under a time crunch, etc. 2)See number 1, this seems to be one of the primary ways of balancing experience is with making time an issue for thinking 3)supposedly 2 maps planned, hoping for more as well. The timer thing is explained and actually gone through in the BoardgameCo/Quackalope vids :P

[@andyly6651]

I loved the rainbow 6 games, i have just backed the kick starter, the game and minis look fantastic! I think the timer thing is great, because its very much like how it would be...just do it kinda mentality

[@callum5257]

This. Looks. Excellent. Everything about it really appeals to me. Any chance for a play through?

[@TheKingofAverage]

It's a lot of fun! Not now no, but I hope to record some in the future - I have plans!

[@callum5257]

@@TheKingofAverage Nice, thanks again for the great content mate

[@themartianmantis2694]

Would love to see them release map packs with different boards as well as new operator expansions

[@TheKingofAverage]

That would be huge!

[@themartianmantis2694]

@@TheKingofAverage looks like that's on the Kickstarter, very exciting.

[@RejectedProductionsX]

Great video, I had to stop everything to fully watch this video. At first I was on the fence about R6 board game because its a licensed IP and i was like.. how will this work in board game form but you've convinced. Intense and fast pace, it just sounds great lol. Setup looks crazy also. Side question: Have you've tried/or heard of Eldfall Chronicles? It's another skirmish game. Saw it on my suggestions, looks interesting but no one has in depth video reviews of it.

[@TheKingofAverage]

I was pleasantly surprised by this one for sure - had the same feeling going into it :) Yes I have! Even have the rules for it. Need to contact them and see if it's something they want me to do now or perhaps some other time.

[@RejectedProductionsX]

@@TheKingofAverage Awesome 😎👍. Hopefully they allow you to. They seem like really cool people and are passionate about their game, sadly I'm reading some not so good news about the campaign though. I hope they end up successful.

[@cobracommander4516]

Wow, I like your videos. How a game "feels" is important to me and your opinions matters to me now.

[@TheKingofAverage]

100%. Mechanics on their own can be wonderful, but together they can really bog a game down if not implemented well.

[@Karate-xt4sk]

The photo on the artwork is how they look when you select them in the video game

[@sdrawkcab_emanresu]

Like before watching because of timestamps. Really appreciate them

[@TheKingofAverage]

Happy to hear it! Takes a bit of time to get timed well but happy to hear they are useful!

[@sdrawkcab_emanresu]

@@TheKingofAverage Yeah, i watched the entire Video now, and just skipped back to specific sections. Its also great because eg. my brother hates slow paced games, so i can show him only the section, where you explain the paceing etc.

[@TheKingofAverage]

oh fantastic! Really glad it's time well invested :D

[@ericlaplante1866]

Very informative and now, can’t wait to get it after this clip! Do you think that they should add preset Defenders positioning to speed up setup for quickies! Would be a nice option to have!

[@TheKingofAverage]

They actually 100% already have that, so if you don't want to bother with deployment (either because you're starting out or want to shoot each other quicker) they have a pre-setup one that has everyone already deployed in their spots.

[@themartianmantis2694]

Finally, another game i can use my line of sight laser in once every ten games :D

[@TheKingofAverage]

Hah! Lasers make everything better :)

[@keithjiao5461]

what about set up time? How long did u took to set all the components( walls cameras etc)? Because JoA was a fun great game too, however the setup took forever......

[@igorpersin7484]

Fiddlines on this looks through the roof...

[@TheKingofAverage]

FAR less. I complained a TON about that in JoA. This is nothing like that for a few reasons: 1 - The terrain pieces aren't specific, just the size/shape. On the map are thick squares and lines. If it's in two spots you put a terrain piece that's 2 wide there, any one you want. If it's an L shape you put the desk there. This takes maybe a minute tops to do the whole map of furniture. next is the default barricades/cameras which from what I tested, all worked just fine. It's all in 1 box too so there's no searching for the tiny man called "hunter" in a box you're not sure of. Then you can do the custom setup with takes a bit of time (still less than JoA) but it involves gameplay decisions because the game has started, this is the "deployment" phase. If you don't want that however they have quick setups where you simply put people where they go. I could have perhaps reassured this but I didn't mention an issue around it because it's not a thing really :)

[@brett5730]

What is your take on the variety of operators? The base pledge has 20, but if you go all in it adds another 38. It seems like overkill- I don't know that you'd ever even get to use some of the units, much less flush out their full potential. Do you think you'd ever get tired of just the base 20?

[@selby2180]

Sounds like they should include a laser line pointer as a SG instead of those sticks 😬

[@TheKingofAverage]

haha laser pointers remind me of old school 40k and not in a good way :D

[@MythicGames]

We might add those laser line pointers as optional buys! :)

[@tommytampons2080]

I do think they should have a physical device that times you. Simply because apps can become unsupported and it would benefit the company because apps are a running/ continuous cost.

[@TheKingofAverage]

It'd need to be a bit tricky since you you choose between several different time allotments, timing is per operator alive so you have to lower it (and increase it if you made a mistake) each round, pass between two timers, pause either one, add or remove 30 seconds based on LOS calls and support the deployment round with different timings as well. For an app it's pretty straight forward, and you can certainly grab a pair of stopwatches, but the app certainly makes it easier.

[@D1eterVl]

Very nice and thorough review (wouldn't expect anything else from the King). It has piqued my interest. But I can't find a launch date, any guess?

[@TheKingofAverage]

June 22nd! :)

[@yuarthur455]

how is this game as a 2v2 experience, dotou reckon it will run smoothly ? or is it mainly designed as a 1v1?

[@freedom2663]

So the clear acrylic standees sgs will be a plus to allow you to see more of the board more quickly?

[@utahman06]

I hate you so much for hooking me on another Mythic game. Their KS campaigns are terrible and the delivery is usually shoddy. But I WANT this

[@TheKingofAverage]

LOL I am so sorry :D

[@kmloke4507]

What are some of your favourite skirmish board games? How does this compare to SFB?

[@renatocarvalho6059]

Very helpful review! Thank you! I’m kind of on the fence (rookie pledge) just because self control, but I do want to back this one all in so bad!.. God damn. My wallet hurts.

[@tgeorgom]

You really need to do a resume pros/cons of all the skirmish games that exist as kickstarters/late pledges and have tried.

[@hunteralbert7297]

How would this compare to say “Heros of Normandy” I know they are very different games but I own ALOT of Heros of Normandy and don’t want a bunch of similar games

[@aherosquest4536]

All Hail the King! Question: money is SUPER tight right now and I’m thinking that getting just the base with the add-on maps would be enough to get a great game with a good amount of replay-ability. Is FOMO real here since the campaign is only 10-days long?…. or should I get everything and basically file for divorce now? 😅

[@TheKingofAverage]

100% just grab core and then maps and then anything else. Remember they will still have a PM you can put more into should things change but recall I mentioned that operators are nice, but they fit into buckets as I see it so it's not a make it or break it to have EVERY operator :) Maps are far more important there I think :) They are still nice though of course haha

[@iahlee]

I want this so bad but so disappointed you cannot play solo

[@Muageto]

Looks cool. Must be fun to play. Seems very fiddly though (seems like a trend in recent MG games). That would probably not be a game I want to own

[@TheKingofAverage]

Hmm, I suppose it depends on your threshold. I didn't find it fiddly at all. Do you mean component wise or mechanically?

[@Muageto]

@@TheKingofAverage a bit of both I guess but mostly component

[@TheKingofAverage]

Ah yeah I can see that. I think it's plays smoother than it looks. But I think different things trigger that feeling for different people. For instance I can't stand when zombified has too many enemies and I have to move them all or they overflow a spot. To me that's like the most fiddly thing ever :D

[@dgeci]

Hi, I was waiting for your review. I poured more than 1000 hours into R6 the video games and now you convinced me to invest in the board game :). I wait for the kickstarter from now on ! Do you think that the rules, components, .. the whole game will be polished enough ... given Mythic is the editor ...?

[@faralathium101]

If you had to pick one, would it be this or mythic battles Ragnarok as your skirmish game?

[@TheKingofAverage]

Mythic Battles Ragnarok because of theme, card play and more satisfying army building which I'm a sucker for. But I'd be sad I didn't get this one as well.

[@equals-kl9hm]

Anyone know what size the miniatures are 25mm, 28mm, 32mm, 1/48, . . . ?

[@TheKingofAverage]

32 I think. Maybe 35.

[@controlablebots]

do you feel that the amount of components can be overwhelming to convince casual gamers to try it? I agree that the table presence will draw people to the game, but I feel like the sheer amount of tokens and standees might but a bad taste in peoples mouths right off the bat before the game even starts. I play the video game, so all these components are pretty self explanatory, but i'm afraid the amount of components will make the game finnicky, thoughts?

[@TheKingofAverage]

It's certainly not finicky which is nice. While I don't play with anyone casual, each person's special item has their unique symbol on it which is nice, and the furniture simply goes wherever the lines are on the map so takes about a minute. Setup diagrams show where to put barricades. Honestly I was worried having played stuff like Joan of Arc but it wasn't an issue at all :)

[@Dreadnote-pf7of]

Im sure that someone already said that... But don't you just use points market as, well, Victory Points? Like when you claim your 1'st position - you take it marker and now you have 1 VP. You claimed 2th round one - you take it and now you have another 2 vps?

[@TheKingofAverage]

Yep! That wasn't in the rulebook I used (one of the issues with prototypes) but instantly makes sense once you hear it like, yeah of course you would do that.

[@javierpalma3578]

How is it compared to Aristeia!?

[@AchHadda]

Do you the extensions are worth it ?

[@Vascariz]

Excellent review and more WOOP WOOP WOOPS!

[@TheKingofAverage]

gahaha :D It's the noise it makes and you know it! :D

[@paulb2474]

I ended up killing my witcher pledge during the 11th hour, lol this might end up taking its place, as this one seems a bit more interesting to me, mechanic wise.

[@TheKingofAverage]

It's a very different type of fun for sure, but indeed I had a blast playing this :)

[@hasnulhfk2085]

No solo, no go. Thank you...just saved my money.

[@TheKingofAverage]

It's not often I do that, glad I could help in the right decision for you :)

[@kyleb8117]

If they did make a solo mode, I would guess it'd be just as underwhelming as the solo in R6S the video game. This is definitely a game about throwing people against each other and trying to adapt to each other while making the fewest mistakes. I'm huge about whether a game has solo lately, but I just have to back this one for the eventual games I'm going to get of this. I loved the video game, but my friends fell out of playing it, and the board game looks like it's really going to scratch that itch.

[@PeterSikachev]

I didn't really understand - how exactly does timer work in this game?

[@TheKingofAverage]

You select difficulty which gives you x amount of time per operator (standard is 60 seconds). You pause as needed to ask questions and when you roll dice. After each round you tell the app how many of your people died and it adjusts your time accordingly.

[@ErrorEmpirE]

Looks too fiddly, lots of little pieces and upkeep…and much like the VG, wish it had any sort of solo mode. Nice components and presence for sure…expected from them. Curious how the rule book will be, as Batman showed no improvements. While out of print, for tactical skirmish Tannhauser fills this niche for me, and surpasses it.

[@shawnkays6821]

Thank goodness this game is good. Love the video game.

[@TheKingofAverage]

Right? Love it!

[@patriziopastore9895]

Let's see the campaign... I'm still not convinced looks repetitive after fee matches.

[@themartianmantis2694]

If its popular enough I'd bet they're either going to release expansions, or the community is going to mod the hell out of it

[@sdrawkcab_emanresu]

@@themartianmantis2694 They already have expansion🤮

[@Thebrewgeek1]

Great video

[@Jmic0925]

What is that table you are playing on? Alpha game table?

[@TheKingofAverage]

Yes good call! It does really well in a variety of setups. I play 40k on it with the extended legs so it's higher, and for board games like this I only set up half of it so the rest is folded to one side of it - works out well! Played Witcher and this game on it no problem like this.

[@Jmic0925]

@@TheKingofAverage I’ve been looking at that table for well over a year now. Just never pulled the plug. You may have just made that decision for me! Thanks! Haha

[@JohnHoliver]

I have zero interest in the genre, but it's very nice to hear your review either way.

[@TheKingofAverage]

Money saved then right? :D

[@JohnHoliver]

@@TheKingofAverage well... there's always something shiny around the corner. Your Witcher video got me, for example.

[@garylangford6755]

The amount of setup in this game looks crazy... Nothing new for Mythic... That can be a major turn off though as Mythic Battles is so hard to get to the table due to setup time

[@TheKingofAverage]

Yeah for me it depends on why it takes so long. JoA takes a long time because the setup instructions are crap. This does because the defender player is actively making decisions and every time that was the case I watched them like a hawk so I could better have a plan of action on my very quick turn that happens right afterward. Ideally I see an opening or mistake they make in their coverage, or at least hazard a bet on which tokens are fake defenders.

[@garylangford6755]

@@TheKingofAverage that is encouraging

[@fredericcourcy1915]

Good point KOA as the setup of the map is part of the tactical choice. This time usually a turn off for most player is actually really engaging. This means that the real setup time without thinking/playing is like 5-10 min ?

[@TheKingofAverage]

Yeah like 5, seriously it's really straight forward.

[@EricWoning]

One of the few times I wish my other half would turn into a guy 😂 Alas.... no buddy that would play this with me (local gaming group is Euro's etc. not this type), otherwise it would be an insta-back.

[@TheKingofAverage]

oh bummer, it's a blast!

[@EricWoning]

@@TheKingofAverage - let me get you some lotion.... so you CAN RUB IT IN MORE! 😂😭

[@triodo]

I apreciate the work you do but I dont like the new way you setup your reviews ( with a far static camera). I would much prefer the old way, in first person camera (like on stormsunder), this way I can see the cards and the different elements you are explaining. In the new way I feel like Im looking at an image of the board game in bgg while listening to a podcast. I hope my comment was more helpful than hurtful.

[@TheKingofAverage]

Not hurtful at all, very helpful! I might actually try that out again, just hard to fit the whole game in camera but I'll see what I can do :) I think ideally I have 2 cameras. That's the goal anyway. Because I don't want to just be talking hands either haha I appreciate the feedback thank you!

[@triodo]

@@TheKingofAverage Thanks for all your work and for being open to criticism.

[@ZebraCatfish73]

Yeah; a second camera will make all the difference. Maybe a remote to change back and forth in real time. Or maybe you would have to split it in post editing. But since this wasn’t a play through, it’s not too bad. Great breakdown of the game. Good job!

[@tgeorgom]

Hmmm, no microtransactions? Are we sure that they have paid for the IP? Or maybe they will introduce microAddOns? Smoke grenade. 5€ add-on with 2 cards and tokens. 7€ upgraded to plastic... And so on and so forth. Thank you man. Nice review, I am not really interested. I like to have time to plan for actions. I would love more of a "kitchen rush" real time than this kind of game. I love Mythic Games and I am sure this campaing will explode but I might not play this one.

[@JohnnyMcNabb63]

It looks like it’s fiddly and way too long of a set up. Looks like it needs to be streamlined. Reminds me a little of Reichbusters being too fiddly and set up. Hopefully it will have a better rule book.

[@TheKingofAverage]

It's super streamlined. I think the issue, and I think I worded this badly, but deployment is game time, not setup time. It's very active for both players. As the defender you're figuring out where to put everything and as the attacker your hoping to gleam a mistake they make and formulate a plan because once they say done (even if it's sooner than the timer) you have just a few minutes to put your people into position. It really is a fast paced game! Reichbusters was rough for a lot of reasons but much of it was due to bad game flow thanks to overdone mechanics. This I am happy to report is not that :)

[@tonymartinez3434]

overwatch=camping.

[@TheKingofAverage]

As long as you aren't spawn camping I'm okay with it.

[@tonymartinez3434]

@@TheKingofAverage bahahahaha!!! Love your content brother. Keep up the good work!

[@steveliu99]

20 minutes setup. And then u need to dismantle it. This is just me....No way. The other thing, looks like solo is out since this is max..pvp, and maybe max..4 players...2 vs 2, but that is going to stretch gameplay time/discussion, which can be enjoyable...and which can be tiring. They could have done a gameplay on solo , with terrorist/kidnappers/counter-terrorist , in which PvE can be done with the right card AI. They could add bosses in them. They could add timers as well , they could even add campaign wise, with new items/weapons/armor/skills..... There can be so much potential in this, partly I had wanted to create such game mechanics myself. LOS to me is just a ruler to determine if it hits any of the frontal 2 points, part-LOS would give another different outcome. If Mythic folks wanna talk to me...just message me. So much waste potential perhaps IMO...anyways, I will need to see what is on the stretch goals, add-ons...the base isn't intriguing to me anyhow. Thanks for reviewing this.

[@TheKingofAverage]

You're welcome! Setup is weird since it's actually part of the game and can lower the time if desired. Setting up the game to start deployment takes a matter of minutes thankfully as it's not token heavy and everything has a spot on the board. Can also simply set up in a recommended deployment to skip the 20 minutes entirely.

[@bardok6569]

I think you should delete this first part where saying about how independent you are. Sorry but when I look at your reviews - from some time - you are extra optymistic about every game! I can understand that - they are sending prototypes to you and they will not when you will be showing their problems and issues. Too bad, because a lot of people liked you for realistic approach. And it is nothing wrong. Just stop saying how independent you are mate...

[@TheKingofAverage]

Heh, I think there's some natural tin foil hat here which is understandable anytime anyone makes a claim. Better to question than blindly follow right? As someone who got a few free games from CMOM, and then made a video titled "CMON is EVIL!", Someone who rated Dawn of Madness, Joan if Arc (by Mythic Games mind you), Black Rose Wars, Starvadia Quest and others rather harshly I believe I've done enough at this point to where people either believe me, or don't. That being said, you are noticing something for sure. I don't reviygames I think look bad, and if a game ends up bad I only sometimes force play it enough to do a review video on it. For instance I found my 2 game sessions with Wild Assent as rather "meh", so I've not played it more and therefore haven't reviewed it. So envairably, most games I review I will like. Bit that doesn't mean I can't be critical. There are always cons with any product, nothing is perfect. 6: Siege I truly have enjoyed, a lot. I get nothing from lying and nothing for peddling crap to you guys. You'd find me full of crap within a year when they deliver. I've been doing this for 3 years, I'd have been "found out" by now I think :) But of course it's up to you to decide to trust me or not :) Most I can do is to be here should you have any pointed questions :) I honestly don't mind!

[@bardok6569]

@@TheKingofAverage ok sure, that's a pretty good answer. But you know, that if you are not publishing bad reviews it looks like "everything is awesome!" approach. Maybe it is just me looking for late period of time and see this? Thanks for answering. Hope you are correct ;)